Reason Lynas protesters are mostly Chinese

December 7, 2012 at 3:22 am 36 comments

Excerpts from Datuk Ti Lian Ker’s blog. He is the former MCA state assemblyman for Teruntum in the Kuantan parliamentary constituency.

I’ve copypasted several passages that I found interesting and putting them under bullet points. Ti’s web page is screenshot below.

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Bringing children to street marches contravenes the Peaceful Assembly Act

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Bringing children to street marches contravenes the Peaceful Assembly Act

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By Dr Looi:

(Prominent Kuantan doctor)

  • “Yes, why only the Malaysian Chinese and no other racial groups are involved in this comical anti-Lynas debacle. [...]  Practically all anti-Lynas nincompoops are Chinese …
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Bringing children to street marches contravenes the Peaceful Assembly Act

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Bringing children to street marches contravenes the Peaceful Assembly Act

Bringing children to street marches contravenes the Peaceful Assembly Act

Bringing children to street marches contravenes the Peaceful Assembly Act

  • [Jade Lee:] ‘It was a few church leaders in Kuantan who have first started to discuss the Lynas issue and to raise awareness of their congregation to oppose this project.’
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  • Once the madness started, a few of the local Chinese newspapers picked up the story and amplified the fear by persistently reporting on every word that the anti-Lynas say, even though they are something that is obviously absurd like the Lynas plant is a nuclear plant and is going to explode and spread radioactivity all over the country.
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Do they think the Australian Lynas bosses read bahasa Melayu?

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Why did the Lynas CEO invite him to Australia? Read here

  • Then, as usual, the local politicians saw the fantastic opportunity to accuse the establishment of allowing such a dangerous plant to be established in Kuantan. Because the general election is coming soon, they could not let this golden opportunity to pass by, and so jump right into the fray. With their massive financial backing, the opposition, together with some naive unthinking minds started the anti-Lynas campaign.
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  • The anti-Lynas Red Guards have deployed an army of cyber harassers and cyber thugs in all the Malaysian blogs and other news media to intimidate anyone who oppose them and they are very successful so far.
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Bringing children to street marches contravenes the Peaceful Assembly Act

Bringing children to street marches contravenes the Peaceful Assembly Act

Bringing babies to street marches

  • Very few people dare to speak up, and all those who dare to do so are being intimidated, harassed and boycotted by the brainwashed zombies. The main aim of these cyber thugs has nothing to do with getting rid of Lynas … but they are using this golden opportunity to brainwash and instill hatred for the present government, thus enabling them to win the coming general election.
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  • Fortunately, all the other racial groups do not read Chinese and the propaganda do not affect them and as a result, the Malays and Indians are unaffected.”

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Bringing children to street marches contravenes the Peaceful Assembly Act

Aren't the Firsters supposed to be colour blind? Why the 'Bangsa' placard?

Aren’t the Firsters supposed to be colour blind? Why the ‘Bangsa’ placard?

The link to Datuk Ti’s blog is here.

Related posting: Perarakan Himpunan Hijau di KL berbaur pengaruh politik DAP

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  • 1. ahmad sontoloyo  |  December 7, 2012 at 3:34 am

    poor MCA, opportunity lost is BN lost, btul tak Helen?

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    • 2. anakbukitgantang  |  December 7, 2012 at 7:53 am

      it seems MCA is spared the stupidness of DAP – now that we know Lynas is SAFE – that only leaves DAP to lick its wound – this is not an opportunity lost on MCA – yet it is the risk calculated MCA to avoid such embarassing and failed political campaign…

      Reply
  • 3. Waris Malaya  |  December 7, 2012 at 3:36 am

    Himpunan Hijau = middle-class lala-ism

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  • 4. anonymous  |  December 7, 2012 at 4:24 am

    So I take it that chinese newspapers are pro opposition since they haven’t did anything like explaining the Lynas thing properly.

    Either that or DAP always know where to recruit clueless protesters judging from those ‘No Lynas No Mutants’ sign and that ‘Balik Kampung Tanam Jagung’ sign. Oh, plus that bringing children to demos like you point out as well.
    ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Ditto ‘The Star’. — Helen

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  • 5. mah bee ann  |  December 7, 2012 at 7:14 am

    never thought DAP is so dumb, self centred, and stupid.racist and chauvinist.
    why did chinese like DAP so much? so that they can politicised their children?
    crazy…

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  • 6. forrrestcat  |  December 7, 2012 at 8:47 am

    The Stream Al Jazeera featured the Lynas issue in their discussion. Nick Curtis on behalf of Lynas was good in clarifying the false accusations thrown at them while the unsophisticated Tan Bun Teet on behalf of the anti Lynas movement keeps dragging politics into the discussion and there is one tweet by some stupid Lawyers for Liberty who tweeted UMNO as getting bribes from Lynas which shows that the anti Lynas clowns are shamelessly trying to get traction by misinformation.

    Nick Curtis professionally refrained from commenting on the political aspect and provided good explanation on every lies gurged by Tan Bun Teet who keep telling half-baked stories without source such as the Lynas plant shut down on first day of operation.. booo..

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  • 7. Pakatan Puak Pembohong  |  December 7, 2012 at 10:38 am

    cult psychology at work. when people see what they want to see, hear what they want to hear, believe what they want to believe, you have a mob forming, and baying for blood.

    this is the strategy of the opposition, just show what the people what to see, say what the people want to hear, and they will believe what they think is real.

    and it looks like this strategy is working.

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    • 8. Servant of God  |  December 7, 2012 at 1:06 pm

      If I may correct you there bro,

      The strategy is working for people who don’t want to think.

      How else could you explain a dumbass who holds aloft a placard saying “No Lynas No Mutant” without realising she is already a mutant? She should appear on “Stan Lee’s Superhumans” and her power is Reverse Super-Intelligence.

      Reply
  • 9. The International Jew  |  December 7, 2012 at 10:58 am

    http://shuzheng.wordpress.com/2012/12/07/mahathirs-look-east-malay/

    Reply
  • 10. mubarakchan  |  December 7, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    The Malaysian Chinese are the best treated in the world better than Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan, China and all the other countries. For 5,000 years to 2012 ( 71/2 Singaporeans came into Malaysia with nothing during the NEP and became billionaires. Do you know ? ), the words democracy and human rights were not practised in China. But here in Malaysia, through agitation and instigation, some of the Malaysian Chinese run around the streets of Kuala Lumpur and do the Long March for the causes of others which have nothing to do with them. The DAP has already said their leadership would not be the Prime Minister. What have the Malaysian Chinese got to GAIN by changing the Government ? What we all want is peace, harmony and prosperity for all. And these were what BN under the leadership of the UMNO had provided us and successive centuries before this. Be happy. Be satisfied. All vote BN!

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  • 11. Laksa Johor  |  December 7, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    Stupid, ungrateful people. Please migrate and know that you won’t be missed!!!

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  • 12. rambulan  |  December 7, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    Baguslah kalau badan penganjur himpunan hijau lebih peka, lebih prihatin dan lebih reaktif dari IAEA. Cumanya janganlah berpilih-pilih isu dan jangan hangat-hangat tahi ayam.

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  • 13. News Addict  |  December 7, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    It is ironic that Chinese are concerned with environment when they are generally not hygenic and litter everywhere.

    Isnt the chinese contractors, developers and manufactureres that usually pollute the environment?

    One can argue as improper stereotyping but that is what the eyes see, nose smell and ears hear.

    So Isn’t it rather pretensious.on the Chinese to support anti Lynas?

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  • 14. Malaysian  |  December 7, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    Actually my comment on this as a Malaysian is it is not a good business for Malaysia, but indeed is good for Lynas, as they enjoy a tax exemption for 12 years yet they can process and left (which is the earlier intention) the residue in Malaysia.

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    • 15. Dave  |  December 14, 2012 at 3:21 am

      notice how the pro lynas supporter tend to racialise the issue?

      i even heard some claim lynas itu hak melayu, when the company is owned by australians.

      but the truth is, we will get hak over the waste left behind when they leave after 12 years. ha ha hak

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  • 16. mubarakchan  |  December 7, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    Laksa johor, Malaysian, rambutan, news addict etc, my friends, you are all correct !

    Reply
  • 17. AYAH  |  December 7, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    Malaysian,

    Thank you for your well thought out and very balanced comment. I believe many more Malaysians are learning a lot from you.

    Once again, thank you and keep them coming. At least we uneducated fellows will be the beneficiaries of your very high intelligence.

    Reply
    • 18. Waris Malaya  |  December 7, 2012 at 7:36 pm

      Sarcasm is like a silent fart – only the smell will give it away :)

      Reply
  • 19. mekyam  |  December 9, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    dear helen,

    i’d like to share this independent analysia and report about rare earth and lynas published in the national geographic newswatch:

    http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2012/12/07/rare-earths-in-malaysia/

    i hope fellow visitors to your blog would help disseminate this in the interest of spreading responsible information.

    thanks much!

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    • 20. OverseasBumi  |  December 11, 2012 at 7:00 pm

      This piece is written by a guest writer who has ties with environmental advocacy groups. To suggest that this article is ‘independent’ is entirely misleading.

      The article lacks evidence based on scientific calculation or observation.

      The author lends credence to false allegations made by the STOP Lynas faction.

      The claim that “Government approval for the LAMP which was not based on any evidence based studies” is incorrect.

      The article glaringly omits mention of the studies made by IAEA and AELB and other government and environmental agencies.

      If you are like Helen, who thinks that it’s better not to have something as risky as LAMP in one’s back yard, then I suggest you also avoid taking other risks, such as driving, eating processed foods, flying on airplanes, using handphones etc…

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      • 21. mekyam  |  December 14, 2012 at 3:53 pm

        hello OB,

        thanks for the input elucidating the article i linked to. for your information, i’m for Lynas!

        i’ll take that last jibe even though i question its necessity [your points can be appreciated on their own merits, there is really no call to be patronizing!] because i admit i should have gone through the article before passing it on.

        it was at the request of an fb “friend” who said it was another argument for, i repeat FOR, Lynas. the person, a kuantan person who is not affiliated to any party, supports Lynas. i had no reason to doubt the person’s sincerity. i still don’t but will not be too quick to pass on articles before looking through them myself.

        *p.s. yo helen, even if we are not on the same side of the Lynas fence, i actually consider being liken to someone as evenhanded as you a compliment!

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        • 22. Helen Ang  |  December 14, 2012 at 4:04 pm

          Thanks, likewise.

          Reply
  • 23. Antihipokrit  |  December 10, 2012 at 2:00 am

    Tgk aja belakang restoran cina. kotor dan penuh toksik

    Reply
  • 24. bell  |  December 13, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    They are being paid by foreign agent to ensure that Lynas can’t compete with China. Lynas employee should initiate multimillion lawsuit against NGO due to they can’t perform their job

    Reply
  • 25. Annaeh  |  December 15, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    Cameron Highlands farmers are destroying the environment with their illegal and wanton land clearing. Why not even a little squeak about this?

    Reply
  • 26. looihw88  |  February 18, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    1. SAFETY OF THORIUM-232

    It is safer and cleaner than uranium because its radioactivity is significantly lower:

    Quote Richard Martin, famous journalist with extensive experience in Thorium

    “A CHUNK OF THORIUM IS NO MORE HARMFUL THAN A BAR OF SOAP”.

    You can safely hold metallic Thorium-232 in your hands as it is an alpha emitter and alpha particles cannot penetrate even a piece of paper.

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    2. Thorium-232 is strongly adsorbed to clay. There is no natural way it can get into body. Even the plants and fruits do not contain any Thorium in places with high Thorium in soil.

    The amount of Th-232 in the human body is tiny (estimated to be only 30 micrograms per body i.e. to get 30 gm of Th-232, you need 1 million bodies!

    NICK TSURIKOV, INTERNATIONAL RADIATION SAFETY SPECIALIST

    THORIUM IN “WASTE” IS INSOLUBLE AND CANNOT POISON ANY PLANTS, ANIMALS OR THE ENVIRONMENT – EVEN IN THEORY.

    RADIATION FROM THE PLANT WILL BE UNDETECTABLE OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES (of the plant).”

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    3. QUOTE NICK TSURIKOV, INTERNATIONAL RADIATION SAFETY EXPERT WHO IS THE CO-AUTHOR OF IAEA RADIATION SAFETY REPORT:

    “On dust particles – THERE IS NO WAY WHATSOEVER FOR

    DUSTPARTICLES OF AROUND 10 MICRONS TO GET INTO

    THE LUNGS –

    THE STUFF THAT GETS THERE IS 5 MICRONS OR LESS,..

    The vast majority of the (Lynas) concentrate is either 10 MICRONS or above, SO THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY ISSUE HERE.”

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    4. BECAUSE OF THE EXTREME LOW SPECIFIC ACTIVITY OF TH-232, THE AMOUNT OF DECAY PRODUCT IS MINUSCULE e.g.

    Thorium-232 produced from the WLP per year is only about 95 tonnes and as such a 1 year accumulation of Th-232 produces only 0.5098 MICROGRAMS OF RADON-220/HR OR 0.00005172 ML (CC)/HR of Thoron gas at STP.

    At secular equilibrium, the amount of daughter Radon-220 is only 167 femtograms per ton of Lynas WLP i.e.

    0.000000000000167 grams.

    THIS AMOUNT IS NOT ENOUGH TO TICKLE THE BACKSIDE OF A NEWBORN PIGMY BABY CATERPILLAR !

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    5. THE longer the half-life of a substance, the less its radioactivity.

    As an analogy, if it takes 14 billion years for half of a house to be burnt, there is no chance of anybody getting hurt. But if it takes only 14 minutes for half of the house to be burnt down, many will be injured or killed.

    Thorium-232, which is found in the Lynas waste, has an incredibly long half-life of 14 billion years and as such is much less radioactive than the potassium-40 whose half-life is only 1.25 billion years

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    6. LEAD-208 WHICH IS USED IN YOUR CAR BATTERIES HAVE AN EVEN LONGER HALF LIFE OF 19 MILLION BILLION YEARS AND AS SUCH IS REGARDED AS NON-RADIOACTIVE…i.e. it decays extremely slowly and therefore the radioactivity is incredible low!

    So it’s silly and illogical to say that thorium long half life means that it is dangerous.. It means that is very only very weakly radioactive and can even be held in your hands!

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    7. KEROSENE GAS MANTLES USED IN HAWKER’S LAMPS
    THESE GAS MANTLES ARE MADE OF FABRIC SOAKED IN THORIUM-232 AND AFTER THE INITIAL “FIRING” BECOMES ALMOST PURE THORIUM DIOXIDE.

    MILLIONS HAD HELD THESE “DANGEROUS, RADIOACTIVE” THORIUM GAS MANTLES IN THEIR HANDS.

    REMEMBER THORIUM DIOXIDE HAS A SPECIFIC ACTIVITY OF 3,585 Bq/g ! THE “WASTE” FROM LYNAS IS ONLY 6 Bq/g.

    WHY FRIGHTEN OF 6 Bq/g FROM WASTE AND NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE 3,585 Bq/g FROM THEIR KEROSENE LAMP ?

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    8. THE ANNUAL DOSE RATE EXPOSURE

    1. FROM MALAYSIAN CLAY BRICK HOUSE = 0.43 mSv/year
    (215 x Lynas Worst Case Scenario)

    2. SLEEPING IN WOODEN HOUSE = 0.20 mSv/yr
    (100x Lynas worst case)

    3. SLAG BRICK AND GRANITE HOUSE = up to 2.0 mSv/yr
    (1,000x Lynas worst case)

    SO TO ALL ANTI-LYNAS FOLKS, YOU SHOULD PITCH UP A TENT NEXT TO THE LYNAS PLANT AND SEND YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY TO LIVE NEXT TO LYNAS AS THIS IS HUNDREDS OF TIMES LESS RADIOACTIVE THAN LIVING IN YOUR PRESENT WOODEN OR BRICK HOUSES

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    9.

    1. WASTE FROM MALAYSIAN AMANG INDUSTRY > 100 Bq/g

    2. WASTE “SCALE AND SLUDGE” IN OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY

    ________ LIKE IN PETRONAS = 1,000 Bq/g

    3. and ___Lynas WLP only = 6 Bq/g !

    SO WHY NO GREENIES PROTESTS AT THE MORE THAN 10 AMANG
    ( TIN TAILING ) PLANTS AND AT PETRONAS ?

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    10 Nick Tsurikov, Radiation Safety Expert ” THE MAJORITY OF THIS LYNAS “WASTE” WILL HAVE ONLY HALF THE THORIUM THAN IN NORMAL MALAYSIAN SOIL.

    Lynas residues are half as radioactive as the sand the kids all over Malaysia play in the kindergartens

    If you do look through the Lynas RIA together with UN (not IAEA) reports –

    you will clearly see that two most ‘voluminous’ residues from LAMP will have less than 12 parts per million of thorium –

    and the average MALAYSIAN SOIL – 20 ppm OF THORIUM.

    CONT.

    11. IN MOST OF THE ADVANCED COUNTRIES LIKE THE USA, CANADA AND AUSTRALIA WHERE THERE ARE NO HALF BAKED SELF STYLED SCIENTISTS, ANY MATERIAL THAT HAS AN ACTIVITY OF LESS THAN 10 Bq/g is regarded as non-radioactive for transport and do not require any special permission.

    LYNAS ORE = ONLY 6 Bq/g AND THEREFORE REQUIRES NO SPECIAL PERMISSION IN MOST OF THE DEVELOPED COUNTRIES.

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    12. THE MOST BIOLOGICALLY DAMAGING FORMS OF GAMMA RAYS OCCUR IN THE GAMMA RAY WINDOW OF BETWEEN 3 MeV AND 10 MeV.

    Those below 3.0 MeV are NOT very harmful. They have poor penetrating power and do not deposit much energy.

    Those higher energy gamma rays of greater than 10 MeV are
    NOT very harmful because the body is relatively transparent to them.

    THE AVERAGE ENERGY OF THE MOST ABUNDANT EMISSION OF Th-232 IS ONLY 0.059 MeV.

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    13. UNSCEAR ADMIT THAT THEY WERE WRONG TO IMPLY THAT THERE IS NO SAFE LEVEL OF RADIATION !

    There IS a safe level !

    UNSCEAR (THE UNITED NATIONS SCENTIFIC COMMITTEE ON THE EFFECTS OF ATOMIC RADIATION) HAS FINALLY ADMITTED THAT RADIATION DOSES LESS THAN ABOUT 10 rem (100 mSv ) per year ARE SAFE.

    (Note: 100 mSv = 5,000,000 % Lynas worst case scenario)

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    14. RADIATION EXPOSURE OF 100 mSv/yr IS SAFE: Prof WADE ALLISON

    Nick Tsurikov, International Radiation Safety Expert:

    “EXPERTS INCLUDING Professor WADE ALLISON OF OXFORD UNIVERSITY ARGUE THAT THE DOSE LIMIT CAN SAFELY BE RAISED TO 100 mSv, based on current health statistics.”

    (100 mSv/yr = 50,000 times or 5,000,000% higher than Lynas worst case scenario)

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    15. SLEEPING NEXT TO SOMEONE for 8 hrs/day
    (e.g. your wife or husband) = 0.02 mSv (UNSCEAR)
    (10x Lynas worst case)

    SO DON’T SLEEP WITH YOUR WIFE OR HUSBAND since this is like sleeping next to 10 Lynas plants!

    Dose in worst case scenario for Lynas plant = 0.002 mSv/yr

    Malaysian Monazite Ore in Tin Tailings or Amang = 284 Bq/g or 69,608 ppm

    Lynas ore and Lynas WLP “waste” ~ 6 Bq/g or < 1,600 ppm

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    16. THE FINISHED PROCESSED RARE EARTH PRODUCT EMITS ONLY 0.156 mSv/yr ( A TARMAC ROAD EMITS 2.4 TO 2.6 mSv/yr ! ) – so a fraction of what people in everyday life naturally experience.

    The radiation from a tarmac road comes from Thorium-232, Uranium-238, Potassium-40, Radium and other trace radionuclides in the Tar and the Granite stones.

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    17. When the mother radionuclide has an extremely long half life and the daughters have very short half life, there is very little accumulation of the short half life daughters.

    The concentration of the daughter radionuclides is negligible e.g. there is only 1 atom of Radium 224 for every 1.4 trillion atoms of Thorium-232 at equilibrium.

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    18. As far as radon gas is concerned, it must be remembered that Radon-220 from the decay chain of Thorium-232 has a very short half life of only 55 seconds!

    As such only a tiny amount of Radon-220 (a.k.a. Thoron) within a few centimetres of the surface of a huge pile of waste will be able to live long enough to escape from the pile and see the light of day!

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    19. A lot of people have mistaken Radon-220 from Thorium-232 decay series with the more notorious Radon-222 which has a much longer half life of 3.8 days. Radon-222 comes from Uranium-238 decay series.

    Because of its much longer half life, Radon-222 can and do accumulate in the cellars and poorly ventilated areas of domestic dwellings. Radon-222 is the gas that has been linked to lung cancers in especially non-smokers.

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    20. AS STATED BY MORMAN FREDERICK MOORE, THE AUSTRALIAN MINISTER FOR MINES AND PETROLEUM, IF LYNAS HAVE CHOSEN TO OPERATE IN WESTERN AUSTRALIA, IT WOULD BE WELCOMED WITH OPEN ARMS !

    1. Alkane has decided to build a multi-billion dollar rare earth plant in the outskirts of Sydney.

    2. Arafura is building a huge Rare Earth Processing Plant costing over A$1 Billion in Whyalla in South Australia.

    Dato' Dr Looi,

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  • 27. looihw88  |  February 20, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    Quote: ” I dare you to look at the eyes of Bukit Merah victims and Gebeng people and tell them that everything is okay.” Unquote

    Of course I would dare to look into their eyes ……….. and tell them that they are being made used of by very unscrupulous, irresponsible and despicable people who exploit their misfortune for DIRTY POLITICAL GAINS !

    For God’s sake, the ultra-modern Lynas Rare Earth Chemical plant is not Bukit Merah.

    THESE DEMORALIZED, DESPERATE, DEBUNKED AND INTELLECTUALLY DESTITUTE ANTI-LYNAS DEMONS are still DESPERATELY AND REPEATEDLY PARROTING THE MISLEADING MISINFORMATION AND ASKING NONSENSICAL QUESTIONS THAT THEIR DEVIOUS BRAINY BRAINWASHER’S DEMONIC BRAIN HAS PERMANENTLY AND IRREVOCABLY INGRAINED INTO THEIR BRAINLESS BRAINWASHED BRAINS.

    I AM REALLY NAUSEATED AND SAD THAT THERE ARE
    HUMANS OR RATHER JUST OVERZEALOUS ZOMBIES IN THIS WORLD WHO WOULD RUN DOWN THEIR OWN COUNTRY BY CREATING A SCAPEGOAT IN AN ULTRA-MODERN CHEMICAL PLANT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF ENABLING THEIR MASTER BRAINWASHER TO GAIN A FEW EXTRA FILTHY VOTES IN THE COMING GENERAL ELECTION.

    DO THEY CARE 2 HOOTS ABOUT THE 1,750 PEOPLE DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY EMPLOYED BY LYNAS AND WHOSE SALARIES OR INCOME ARE NEEDED TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLES FOR THEIR FAMILIES TO SURVIVE?

    DO THEY CARE WHETHER THESE POOR HARD WORKING INNOCENT FELLOW HUMANS HAVE A JOB AND A HOME AND FOOD FOR THEIR CHILDREN ?

    ALL THEY THINK ABOUT IS TO DESTROY LYNAS AND STOP THE CONSTRUCTION ANY NEW PROJECTS WHICH PROVIDE JOBS, SHELTER, FOOD AND A DECENT LIFE FOR THE POOR PEOPLE……….WHILE THEY THEMSELVES HAVE A COZY JOB, SHELTER AND PLENTY OF FOOD FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

    IF THESE BRAINWASHED ZOMBIES ARE SO CARING, WHY DON’T THEY PROVIDE THE JOBS AND PROVIDE THE FOOD AND SHELTER FOR THE POOR PEOPLE INSTEAD OF JUST EMPTY TALK !

    In Bukit Merah, the radiation comes from Thorium and Uranium which are our own and has been in Malaysia for billions of years.

    Although the radiation level is well over 37 times that of the Lynas waste, there is no definite well controlled scientific proof that the cases of leukaemia and birth defects are caused by radiation from the waste.

    Study by scientists at John Hopkins University published in 1988 by American Journal of Epidemiology, concluded that, their study plus the fact that there is NO CONGENITAL DEFECTS DEMONSTRATED IN STUDIES ON THE ATOMIC BOMB SURVIVORS IN HIROSHIMA AND NAGASAKI, suggests that

    LOW DOSE RADIATION CANNOT CAUSE CONGENITAL DEFECTS.

    Even UNSCEAR has now admitted THAT RADIATION DOSES of LESS THAN ABOUT 10 rem (100 mSv ) per year ARE SAFE.

    (Note: 100 mSv = 5,000,000 % Lynas worst case scenario)

    COMPARISON OF RADIOACTIVITY IN Bq (Specific activity.. number of atoms decaying in 1second)

    Pure Thorium-232 = 4,080 Bq/gm

    Pure Potassium-40 = 254,000 Bq/gm

    Naturally Occurring Potassium (3 different isotopes) in our body and food = 31.825 Bq/gm

    Artificially created Plutonium-238 = 634,000,000,000 Bq/gm (1/2 life=87.7 years)

    Monazite ore from Amang or Tin Tailings in Malaysia = 284 Bq/gm

    Lynas Rare Earth Waste = 6 Bq/gm

    Public dose limits for exposure from uranium mining or nuclear plants are usually set at 1 mSv per year above background.

    According to the National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurement (NCRP) and its international counterpart, the International Commission on Radiological Protection (ICRP). Both of these organizations offer recommendations for the maximum permissible dose (MPD) of radiation.

    General Public annual MPD by both NCRP and ICRP is 1 mSv.

    For Radiation Workers, the annual MPD is 50 mSv (NCRP) and 20 mSv (ICRP), with a cumulative MPD of 10 mSv x Age.

    MPD during pregnancy is 5 mSv (NCRP) and 2 mSv (ICRP).

    However, experts including Professor Wade Allison of Oxford University argue that the dose limit can safely be raised to 100 millisieverts, based on current health statistics.

    Compare this with the dose of 0.002 millisieverts/year of exposure for people living within 1 km of the Lynas plant in the worst case scenario (estimated by Lynas).

    I have seen lots of cases of leukaemia and other types of cancer as well as birth defects over the last 40 years or so and unfortunately we do not have Lynas around at that time to use as a scapegoat.

    Unscrupulous people have been using videos and pictures of patients with congenital abnormalities and other illnesses to instil fear into the population. There is absolutely no scientific proof that these cases are caused by radiation.

    Only people with ulterior motives would use pictures and videos of these unfortunate patients whose disorders have nothing to do with radiation to score political points!

    In the south of the state of Kerala in India the soil contains as much as 4,000 ppm (parts of Thorium per million). Studies have shown that there is little or no accumulation of Thorium-232 in the inhabitants.

    The Lynas waste contains only 1,650 ppm.

    It has been estimated that in the worst case scenario, the radiation risk within a 1 km radius from the Lynas plant is only 0.002 mSv/yr.

    In Ramsar, Iran, the naturally occurring radiation
    is extremely high at 260 mSv/yr.
    This is 13,000,000% higher than the expected worse case scenario in Kuantan.

    And the people in Ramsar, Iran has been found to be healthier and live longer than the rest of the Iranians! There is also no increase in the number of cancer cases.

    Remember the Tin slag from the Eastern Smelting and Straits Trading in Penang ? These, which contain the tantalum and monazite ore, and the monazite ore can be more than 3,700 % more radioactive than the Lynas waste.

    And these radioactive tin slag were used to fill up the old Penang Stadium and the roads in Penang. A lot of these has already been stolen and sold off at a huge profit, but a lot still remains in the roads in Butterworth and Penang island.

    The people in Penang have not developed Cancer so far as a result of these slag!

    The anti-Lynas people who are so paranoid about imported radiation from Australia should have a look at the paper published in the Malaysian Journal of Analytical Sciences which showed that the level of radiation in areas where tin was mined. The waste or amang contains high levels of Monazite and other minerals which are highly radioactive.

    All these old tin mine areas are well populated. Note even Kuala Lumpur is also an ex-tin mining area.

    A study was done University Technology MARA in Kg Gajah in Perak :

    Quote: ” The level of surface dose varies from one location to another, but there is a critical area which has a significantly high surface dose approaching 30 microSv/hr ” Unquote

    30 microSv/hr is about 260 mSv/year or about the same level as the highest recorded area in Ramsar!.

    Even ordinary Sand (crystalline silica, SiO2) is classified as a group 1 Carcinogen (a confirmed cancer causing agent), but as you know, we do not expect a huge number of people in living in the deserts or along the seashores to die from silica induced lung cancer.

    The lung cancer risk occurs only when fine sand (silica) is inhaled by miners for a prolonged period in the quarries and mines i.e. silica is not a carcinogen when ingested and of course not when injected for nobody would allow you to inject sand into their veins.

    Thorium-232 is a very weakly radioactive substance and produces only alpha particles which cannot even penetrate a thin piece of paper.
    All you have to do is to wrap it up in a piece of newspaper and it is for all intents and purposes, non-radioactive !

    ” Thorium-232 is considered to be a carcinogen only IF ADMINISTERED INTRAVENOUSLY AS A COLLOIDAL DISPERSION OF THORIUM-232 DIOXIDE.”
    It is not considered to be a cancer causing substance if taken orally or inhaled according to the International Agency for Research on Cancer IARC, just like silica (sand) which is not carcinogenic if ingested.

    Dato’ Dr Looi

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  • 28. looihw88  |  February 24, 2013 at 12:34 pm

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    MORE ON THORIUM-232 SAFETY

    Since the average absorbed Beta energy of K-40 decay is 499 keV and the average absorbed Gamma energy is 156 keV,

    THE INTERNAL DOSAGE from K-40 ~ 0.24 mSv/yr:
    (120x Lynas worst case scenario)

    So why complain about radiation from Lynas when there is the equivalent of 120 Lynas plants producing radiation already inside your body in the form of Potassium-40 !

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    There is no natural way for Metallic Thorium or insoluble Thorium compounds or even soluble salts when adsorbed with clay, to enter the body in any significant amount and as Nick Tsurikov, International Radiation Safety Expert and Co-author of IAEA Radiation Safety Report says

    “THORIUM IN ‘WASTE’ IS INSOLUBLE AND CANNOT POISON ANY PLANTS, ANIMALS OR THE ENVIRONMENT – EVEN IN THEORY.” Unquote.

    There has not been a single death or injury that has been definitely and conclusively proven beyond any scientific doubt from the accidental inhalation or ingestion of Thorium-232 !

    Compare this with death caused by Water i.e. from drowning… 388,000 drowning deaths in 2004 alone (WHO).

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    Metallic Thorium or it’s insoluble compounds are chemically innocuous and inert especially when adsorbed by clay.

    Soluble form in the absence of clay absorption = 0.02 to 0.05%.
    With clay, much much less.

    Studies show that a small number out of the 4 million patients who were given this massive dose of 1 or 2 vials (containing 5.58g to 11.7g of thorium) of Thorotrast, developed cancer especially of the liver 20 to 30 years later in their old age.

    Even if we ignore the incredibly strong adsorption to clay, in order to get 5.58g of thorium-232 (equivalent to 1 vial of Thorotrast), we have to swallow an incredible 17,000kg or 17 tonnes of Lynas waste!

    Even with 11.7 g of Th-232 given parenterally, no acute toxicity noted.

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    Thorium-232 is not a Carcinogen (cancer causing agent) if Inhaled or Ingested according to the International Agency for Research on Cancer IARC.

    Thorium-232 is considered to be a carcinogen only IF ADMINISTERED INTRAVENOUSLY AS A COLLOIDAL DISPERSION OF THORIUM-232 DIOXIDE.

    Even this may not be true as the carcinogenic effects of the massive dose of Xray from those antique Xray machines (about 1,000 mSv per fluoroscopy and some of the 4 million patients may have had more than one fluoroscopy done in their lifetime) was not taken in consideration when UNSCEAR came to the conclusion that Th-232 given parenterally is a carcinogen.

    Dato’ Dr Looi Hoong Wah.
    FAMM, MB., ChB(Manchester), MRCS(England), MRCP(UK), MRCP(London).
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  • 29. looihw88  |  February 26, 2013 at 12:48 am

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    Quote Ariel: “However much scientific data cannot erase the painful memories of the Bukit Merah incident.” Unquote

    COMMENT:

    Pictures of a children with cerebral palsy, mental retardation as well as many other pictures with congenital defects and leukaemia from the Bukit Merah area has been used repeatedly to instil fear into the unsuspecting naive population of Malaysia in a very sick attempt to link Lynas to these terrible illnesses.

    THE LINK BEWEEN CONGENITAL DEFECTS, CEREBRAL PALSY AND RADIATION IN BUKIT MERAH ARE MISINFORMATIONS MALICIOUSLY CREATED BY THE ANTI-LYNAS FOLKS !

    In a unique study by scientists at the John Hopkins University, published in 1988 by American Journal of Epidemiology, researchers investigated the association of parental occupational exposure to low-level external whole-body penetrating ionizing radiation and risk of congenital malformations in their offspring.

    THE UNIQUE FEATURE OF THIS STUDY WAS THE LINKING OF QUANTITATIVE INDIVIDUAL MEASUREMENTS OF EXTERNAL WHOLE-BODY PENETRATING IONIZING RADIATION EXPOSURE OF EMPLOYEES AT THE HANDFORD SITE IN WASHINGTON STATE, USING PERSONAL DOSIMETERS AND THE DISEASE OUTCOME i.e. CONGENITAL MALFORMATIONS.

    The study population included 672 malformation cases and 977 matched controls from births occurring from 1957 through 1980.

    Twelve specific malformation types were analyzed for evidence of association with employment of the parents at Hanford and with occupational exposure to ionizing radiation.

    Two defects, congenital dislocation of the hip and tracheoesophageal fistula, showed statistically significant associations with employment of the parents at Hanford, BUT NOT WITH PARENTAL RADIATION EXPOSURE.

    Neural tube defects like spina bifida showed a slightly significant association with parental preconception exposure, but the number of cases is too small to be conclusive of a definite co-relation.

    Eleven other defects, INCLUDING DOWN SYNDROME AND CEREBRAL PALSY showed no evidence of such an association.

    When all malformations were analyzed as a group, there was no evidence of an association with employment of the parents at Hanford.

    Given the number of statistical tests conducted, some or all of the observed positive correlations are likely to represent false positive findings.

    In view of strong contradictory evidence in this well conducted study and the fact that there is NO CONGENITAL DEFECTS DEMONSTRATED IN STUDIES ON THE ATOMIC BOMB SURVIVORS IN HIROSHIMA AND NAGASAKI,

    THE CONCLUSION IS THAT “IT IS UNLIKELY THAT LOW DOSE RADIATION CAN CAUSE CONGENITAL DEFECTS.”

    After analysing thousands of well conducted studies, even UNSCEAR has now admitted THAT THEY WERE WRONG TO IMPLY THAT THERE IS NO SAFE LEVEL OF RADIATION !

    There IS a safe level and that is,

    RADIATION DOSES LESS THAN ABOUT 10 rem (100 mSv ) per year ARE SAFE.

    (Note: 100 mSv = 5,OO0,000 % Lynas worst case scenario)

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    Have a look at this article recommended by Nick Tsurikov, the International Radiation Safety Expert and Co-author of the IAEA Radiation Safety Report.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2013/01/11/like-weve-been-saying-radiation-is-not-a-big-deal/

    Excerpts of Article in Forbes:

    “UNSCEAR (THE UNITED NATIONS SCENTIFIC COMMITTEE ON THE EFFECTS OF ATOMIC RADIATION) HAS FINALLY ADMITTED THAT WE CAN’T USE THE LNT HYPOTHESIS TO PREDICT CANCER FROM LOW DOSES OF RADIATION.”

    Dato’ Dr Looi Hoong Wah.
    FAMM, MB., ChB(Manchester), MRCS(England), MRCP(UK), MRCP(London).

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  • 30. looihw88  |  February 27, 2013 at 6:46 pm

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    Quote The Hon. Dr Jeyakumar Deveraj dated 21.02.13: “. Let’s calculate the amount of radioactivity that is going to be introduced into the country…….. 64,000 tons of waste will be emitting 6.4 x 64 x 109 radioactive rays each second. Multiply that by 60sec x 60min x 24hr x 365days and you will get a measure of the amount of radiation we will be introducing into our country for the year – 12.9bn RADIOACTIVE EMISSIONS EACH YEAR ..”. Unquote.

    COMMENT:

    12.9 BILLION RADIOACTIVE EMISSIONS EACH YEAR sounds like a very dangerous amount, but counting the number of Bq per year is meaningless.

    For instance, the human body has 4,400 Bq from Potassium-40 and another 3,000 Bq from Carbon-14 giving a total of 7,400 Bq. which will be =

    233.37 BILLION RADIOACTIVE EMISSIONS per person EACH YEAR or 6,534 MILLION BILLION for the 28 million people in Malaysia.

    (Note: Dr Jeyakumar is wrong in his calculation as he has forgotten the X10^9 in his equation).

    SO IF THE GOOD HON. DR JEYAKUMAR HIMSELF PRODUCES 233.37 BILLION RADIOACTIVE EMISSIONS EACH YEAR,

    WHAT’S ALL THE FUSS ABOUT LYNAS PRODUCING ONLY 12.9 BILLION (as calculated by Dr Jeyakumar) RADIOACTIVE EMISSIONS EACH YEAR !

    What’s more important is what the biological effect of the radionuclide has on the human body.

    Since the average absorbed Beta energy of K-40 decay is 499 keV and the average absorbed Gamma energy is 156 keV,

    THE INTERNAL DOSAGE from K-40 ~ 0.24 mSv/yr:
    (120x Lynas worst case scenario)

    The human body is subjected to an internal dose of ~ 0.4 mSv from Potassium-40, Carbon-14 and other trace radionuclides and as such

    Sleeping next to someone (i.e. your wife or husband) for 8 hours a day will lead to an exposure of 0.02 mSv/year (Source: UNSCEAR and EPA) i.e. 10x that of Lynas worst case scenario.

    There is no natural way for Metallic Thorium or insoluble Thorium compounds or even soluble salts when adsorbed with clay to enter the body in any significant amount and as Nick Tsurikov, International Radiation Safety Expert and Co-author of IAEA Radiation Safety Report says

    “THORIUM IN ‘WASTE’ IS INSOLUBLE AND CANNOT POISON ANY PLANTS, ANIMALS OR THE ENVIRONMENT – EVEN IN THEORY.” Unquote.

    There has not been a single death or injury that has been definitely and conclusively proven beyond any scientific doubt from the accidental inhalation or ingestion of Thorium-232 !

    Compare this with death caused by Water i.e. from drowning… 388,000 drowning deaths in 2004 alone (WHO).

    It is also not possible for Thorium-232 to get into the lungs of the Kuantan folks because only particles of between 0.65 to 5 microns are able to get deep into the lungs.

    Those particles which are larger than 5 microns are trapped by the mucosa in the upper respiratory tract and are cough out with the phlegm.

    Those particles which are smaller than 0.65 microns will behave like the nitrogen gas in the air and is exhaled with the exhaust air.

    Particles of less than 5 microns are found only in the Thorium or Uranium mines where powerful machines are used, or where there is combustion.

    THE LYNAS PLANT IS NOT A THORIUM MINE AND KUANTAN FOLKS ARE NOT MINERS !

    QUOTE NICK TSURIKOV, INTERNATIONAL RADIATION SAFETY EXPERT WHO IS THE CO-AUTHOR OF IAEA RADIATION SAFETY REPORT:

    “On dust particles – THERE IS NO WAY WHATSOEVER FOR

    DUST PARTICLES OF AROUND 10 MICRONS TO GET INTO

    THE LUNGS –

    THE STUFF THAT GETS THERE IS 5 MICRONS OR LESS,..

    The vast majority of the (Lynas) concentrate is EITHER 10 MICRONS or above, SO THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY ISSUE HERE.” Unquote.

    Dato’ Dr Looi Hoong Wah
    FAMM, MB., ChB(Manchester), MRCS(England), MRCP(UK), MRCP(London)
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  • 31. looihw88  |  March 2, 2013 at 1:10 am

    “La Rochelle, the ‘Lynas of France”

    Many would be surprised that La Rochelle has for decades been hosting a rare earths processing plant, similar to the one planned in Malaysia.

    The La Rochelle facility, which belongs to France’s Rhodia Group, has for years been operating like Lynas. Forty years to be exact. And there has been no adverse health and safety report in the tourist town.

    The Rhodia company is an active player in the rare earths business. It is a leading processor of rare earths. In fact, it’s the only fully integrated industrial player to have manufacturing operations and raw material supply both within and outside China.

    The plant in La Rochelle has been in operation for more than 40 years.

    In the early years, the plant processed rare earths ore concentrates from Australia and China just like Lynas would. For 40 years, the plant was operated in this manner, producing cerium for the world market.

    The radioactive thorium residues have been stored within the plant’s 40ha site for the past 50 years. During storage, the residues are regularly monitored by the country’s regulatory authority, the equivalent of our Atomic Energy Licensing Board (AELB).

    They believe the stored thorium salts will become a fuel of the future.

    What is clear is that the rare earths processing facility in La Rochelle has been operating for more than five decades without harming the population. Instead, La Rochelle has thrived over the years as an attractive tourist destination not only for the French but also for holiday-makers from other European countries and even as far away as the United States.

    Through the deployment of stringent health and safety standards, the chemical plant has been of no consequence to the local community.

    Instead, it has contributed to the local economy not only in terms of job opportunities but also tax revenues.

    After visiting La Rochelle, it beats me why there are still people who are so hung up on Lynas.”Unquote

    COMPARISON OF RADIOACTIVITY IN Bq (Specific activity.. number of atoms decaying in 1second)

    Pure Thorium-232 = 4,080 Bq/gm

    Pure Potassium-40 = 254,000 Bq/gm

    Naturally Occurring Potassium (3 different isotopes) in our body and food = 31.825 Bq/gm

    Artificially created Plutonium-238 = 634,000,000,000 Bq/gm (1/2 life=87.7 years)

    Polonium-210 from Uranium-238 decay = 166,000,000,000,000 Bq/gm (1/2 life=138 days)

    Monazite ore from Amang or Tin Tailings in Malaysia = 284 Bq/gm

    Lynas Rare Earth Waste = 6 Bq/gm

    Quote: AELB (Atomic Energy Licensing Board, Malaysia):

    Malaysia was the world’s no. 1 producer of tin. Along with tin, there’s always Thorium and Uranium and therefore this is not Malaysia’s first facility, AELB is has experience to handle this, to overcome this and AELB is prepared.

    THERE ARE MORE THAN 10 FACILITIES THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO LYNAS.

    SOME OF THEM ARE PRODUCING HIGHER RESIDUES, HIGHER CONCENTRATION OF URANIUM AND THORIUM.

    AELB has been able to regulate and control these factories, so it is based on AELB experience and the experience of the industry abroad.” Unquote

    QUESTION: WHY IS IT THAT THERE ARE NO DEMONSTRATIONS BY
    THE ANTI-LYNAS FOOT-SOLDIERS AGAINST THESE 10 CHEMICAL
    PLANTS ALREADY IN MALAYSIA THAT ARE PRODUCING “WASTES
    WITH HIGHER CONCENTRATIONS OF URANIUM AND THORIUM”?

    ANSWER: 100% PURE POLITICS FROM TOXIC RADIOACTIVE
    POLITICIANS !

    Dato’ Dr Looi
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  • 32. looihw88  |  March 4, 2013 at 5:02 am

    Quote Anti-Lynas: “The plant in La Rochelle is not like Lynas. They don’t store the waste in their vicinity, the waste is stored in a facility specialized in disposing radioactive waste.” Unquote.

    ANSWER:

    The La Rochelle plant uses Monazite-(Ce)…(Ce, La, Nd, Th, Y)PO4 and this is by far the most common and most radioactive of the 3 types of monazite ore.

    The other 2 types which are Monazite-(La) and Monazite-(Nd).

    The monazite from Malaysian Tin tailings has 6 to 7% Thorium-232 and has an activity of 284 Bq/g.

    WASTES
    Until the end of 1974, THE PLANT RELEASED ALL RADIOACTIVE LIQUIDS AND SOLIDS DIRECTLY INTO THE SEA (WHERE LOCALS AS WELL AS TOURISTS ARE SWIMMING)!

    Since, and until the end of 1990, it sent at least a part of the solid residues to the CSM. These wastes are composed, among other substances, of thorium 232, uranium 238, and their descendants (including radium 226 and 228).

    SOLID WASTES
    –A solid residue resulting from the processing prior to July 1994 and described by Andra as “Résidu solide banalisé” (RSB), solid residue made commonplace.

    As of June 1999, 8025 tons (50% moisture) with an activity of 217 GBq were on the PLANT site. The thorium 232 in the DRY PRODUCT REPRESENTED 48 Bq/g AND THE URANIUM 238, 6 Bq/g MAKING A TOTAL OF 54 Bq/g.

    Rhône-Poulenc placed 61,000 t of what Andra describes as RSB into a waste site located near its factory and belonging to the city of La Rochelle (Port de Pallice).

    The residues contain in particular thorium 232 (48 Bq/g dry product) and uranium 238 (6 Bq/g dry product), for a total of 1.65 TBq [Andra 00].
    –Radioactive minerals that have not been attacked. According to Andra, they have been used to fill in a part of the plant site;

    –Substances in suspension, the only residue produced by the minerals used today. 10,048 t (50% moisture) containing thorium 232 (2.6 Bq/g ) and uranium 238 (4.7Bq/g) for a total of 37 GBq are stored at the plant;

    –Tailings, containing thorium 232, uranium 238, and their descendents including radium.
    They are more radioactive than the RSB (see above). They are located at Cadarache and presumably in the bay of La Rochelle. They were stored for a time at the CSM.

    –Thorium nitrate and crude thorium hydroxide.
    The 2000 inventory of Andra states in a footnote that it does not take into consideration some 11,000 t of thorium nitrate (mass activity 1650 Bq/g) and about 20,000 t of crude thorium hydroxide (mass activity 720 Bq/g), the “historic” residue of the processing prior to mid-1994, because these substances are “commercialized at present “by Rhodia Terres Rares.

    The thorium nitrate is used in the manufacture of lamp sleeves; the hydroxide “is a potential raw material.”
    Apparently these substances are stored at the site [Andra 99]. The 1997 inventory of Andra listed the hydroxide as a waste.

    The waste thorium nitrate (mass activity 1650 Bq/g) has an activity which is 27,500% higher than the waste from Lynas which is only 6 Bq/g! Apparently these substances are stored at the site [Andra 99].

    8,025 TONS OF WASTE WITH AN ACTIVITY OF 217 GBq were still stored in the compounds of the plant.

    THIS “LOW RADIOACTICITY WASTE” has 48 Bq/g from Thorium 232 and 6 Bq/g from Uranium-238 giving a total of 54 Bq/g.

    You have to realise that 54 Bq/g is 900% higher than that of the Lynas waste of 6 Bq/g.

    And these wastes are still being stored in the compound of the plant.

    IF THE FRENCH ARE NOT WORRIED ABOUT 54 Bq/g OF RADIOACTIVITY, WHY ARE SOME MALAYSIANS SO FRIGHTENED OF ONLY 6 Bq/g?

    Answer: 100% pure politics from toxic radioactive politicians!

    Dato’ Dr Looi
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  • 33. looihw88  |  March 9, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    (Please Note: This statement by Gerhard Schmidt has been copied and extensively propagated in all blogs and Facebook pages of the cyberspace by the Anti-Lynas folks.)

    Quote Gerhard Schmidt, of Oeko Institute said:

    “MAIN RESULTS: WASTE MANAGEMENT

    Our own dose calculation based on Lynas waste data shows:

    # The WLP waste with the highest radioactive content would be by a factor of more than 1,000 above internationally accepted protection levels for the release of radioactive materials from regulatory control (Beyond Regulatory Concern, BRC level).

    # Even if diluted 1:1 with gypsum the WLP waste is 200-fold above those internationally accepted levels!

    # Even if diluted 1:100 with gypsum (technically unrealistic) the doses would still exceed BRC level!

    # Even the less contaminated wastes FGD and NUF are above that level and require 1:4 resp. 1:9 mixing before they can be released (assumed that the material properties meet the necessary requirements and their toxic by-product content is below any non-radiological environmental concern).”

    Unquote.

    COMMENT:

    The operation of the plant will result in the generation of three major residue streams, namely the

    1. WLP .. Water Leach Purification Residue (WLP) from the cracking and separation process. This is the only slightly radioactive residue at ~ 6 Bq/gm or about 5.7 Bq/g of Thorium-232.

    2. FGD .. the Flue Gas Desulphurisation Residue (FGD) from the waste gas treatment system (scrubber) ~ 12 ppm,

    3. NUF .. Neutralisation Underflow Solids from the wastewater treatment process (NUF) ~ 7 ppm of Thorium-232

    BOTH THE FGD AND NUF HAS LESS THAN 12 ppm (parts per million) of THORIUM-232.

    MALAYSIAN SOIL HAS AN AVERAGE OF 20 ppm of Thorium

    Quote Nick Tsurikov, International Radiation Safety Expert and Co-Author of the IAEA Safety Report on Radioactivity:

    ” If you do look through the Lynas RIA together with UN (not IAEA) reports – you will clearly see that two most ‘voluminous’ residues from LAMP will have less than 12 parts per million of thorium – and the average Malaysian soil – 20 parts per million of thorium.

    In fact most of Lynas residues are only half as radioactive as the sand the kids all over Malaysia play in the kindergartens” Unquote.

    SO, ACCORDING TO OEKO, If 12 ppm are above that level and require 1:4 resp. 1:9 mixing before they can be released,

    WHAT ABOUT ALL THE SOIL IN THE WHOLE OF MALAYSIA WHICH HAS 20 ppm OF THORIUM ?

    THE WHOLE OF MALAYSIA IS above internationally accepted protection levels for the release of radioactive materials from regulatory control (Beyond Regulatory Concern, BRC level).

    ALL MALAYSIANS HAVE TO MIGRATE TO GERMANY OR SWIM TO AUSTRALIA !

    THIS IS JUST PURE INSANITY ! ! !

    With reference to the misleading claim that the radioactivity from the Lynas “waste” was 1,000 TIMES ABOVE INTERNATIONALLY ACCEPTED PROTECTION LEVELS for the release of radioactive materials from regulatory control, have a look at this rebuttal by Nick Tsurikov the Renown International Radiation Safety Expert who is the co-author of the IAEA safety report:

    ” GERHARD SCHMIDT IS SO OBVIOUSLY WRONG that it is not even funny.

    The WLP waste produced by Lynas would be 6 to 7 times above internationally accepted protection levels for the release of radioactive materials from regulatory control.

    I HAVE NO IDEA WHATSOEVER WHERE HE GOT “1000 TIMES” FROM…

    But I would like to respectfully note that a researcher/scientist from Germany is unlikely to have more knowledge and understanding of the issue than numerous reputable UN and other organisations, such as:

    – World Health Organisation,

    – UN Environment Programme,

    – International Labor Organisation,

    – International Atomic Energy Agency,

    – Pan-American Health Organisation etc. etc.,

    Which ALL agreed once again in the 2011 ‘basic safety standards’ that the materials below 1 Bq/g are beyond regulatory concern.

    If there is some other international opinion, it surely is not accepted by the vast majority of the world…” Unquote.

    Dr Looi

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  • 34. looihw88  |  March 16, 2013 at 1:15 am

    1. Richard Martin, famous journalist with extensive experience in Thorium

    “A CHUNK OF THORIUM IS NO MORE HARMFUL THAN A BAR OF SOAP

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    2. United States Government Rare Earth Adviser and Expert Jack Lifton:

    “LYNAS PLANT IS LARGEST AND SAFEST IN THE WORLD.”

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    3. Christoph Wilhelm, in charge of decommissioning Germany’s nuclear plants from Karlsruhr Institute of Technology:

    “I WOULD MOVE MY WIFE and YOUNG CHILDREN TO LIVE IN THAT PLANT BECAUSE THE BACKGROUND RADIATION IS LOWER THAN WHERE I LIVE IN GERMANY.”

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    4. Scientists at John Hopkins University

    ” LOW DOSE RADIATION CANNOT CAUSE CONGENITAL DEFECTS”

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    5. Nick Tsurikov, Renown International Radiation Safety Expert:

    “THORIUM IN ‘WASTE’ IS INSOLUBLE AND CANNOT POISON ANY PLANTS, ANIMALS OR THE ENVIRONMENT – EVEN IN THEORY.”

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    6. Professor WADE ALLISON OF OXFORD UNIVERSITY:

    “THE DOSE LIMIT CAN SAFELY BE RAISED TO 100 mSv, based on current health statistics.”

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    7. Nick Tsurikov, Renown International Radiation Safety Expert:

    “RADIATION FROM THE PLANT WILL BE UNDETECTABLE OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES (of the plant).”

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    8. MORMAN FREDERICK MOORE, THE AUSTRALIAN MINISTER FOR MINES AND PETROLEUM:

    “IF LYNAS HAVE CHOSEN TO OPERATE IN WESTERN AUSTRALIA, IT WOULD BE WELCOMED WITH OPEN ARMS” !

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    9. Wong Tack = WRONG TRACK?

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  • 35. looihw88  |  May 7, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    Shen Yee Aun shared a link.
    7 hours ago near Batu

    Chinese Voted Out The Most Pro Chinese and Liberal UMNO Leader to Replaced With An Extremist PAS Candidate

    1. Why should the Chinese punished the most critical and vocal UMNO leader ( Saifuddin Abdullah ) that spoke against his own UMNO …and races most of the time champion the real Malaysian issue ?

    2. Do you know how much pressure this great liberal visionary leader ( Saifuddin Abdullah ) received from the Malays and UMNO from within ?

    3. Do you know that he was the only UMNO leader who fought to abolished NEP , AUKU , ISA , SECTION 114A and champion many other youth and pro non Malay issue and causes in our country ?

    4. Do you know that he is one of the most Chinese friendly UMNO Malay leader in entire Malaysia ?

    5. I can accept if bad people from UMNO or MCA to be punished but I totally good people should be punished because of their political affiliation .

    6. Do you know how hard he try to fight , transform and reform UMNO from within ? ( is the not the UBAH type of leader that you all are shouting ) ?

    7. You all are basically voting out a leader that can transform and reform UMNO from within.

    8. Most importantly he did served Termerloh so well for the last 5 years as a MP compare to the PAS Youth Chief that suddenly just step his feet there less than 3 months.

    9. Do you know he is among the few leader in UMNO that always speak against UMNO for UMNO wrong doings ?

    10. Did the PAS candidate that u all voted in speak against PAS to suggest that our weekend should be on Friday and not Sunday ? Banning Valentine ? Shut down BURSA Saham ? Shut down Genting ? And etc etc ?

    ( Look at how much damages DAP Red Bean Army Cyber Troopers had causes our Malaysian to reject such a great leader ? ) – http://1sya.com/?p=6041

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  • 36. looihw88  |  May 7, 2013 at 2:59 pm

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    WHY THE CHINESE VOTED AGAINST THE NON-DAP CHINESE BASED PARTIES.

    THE RESULT OF THE LATEST GENERAL ELECTION JUST SHOWED HOW BRILLIANT AND SUCCESSFUL THE OPPOSITION’S STRATEGY OF USING THE INTERNET IS, TO INFLUENCE AND BRAINWASH THE CHINESE POPULATION !

    In fact, I could remember that it was well over 6 years ago when I first receive one of those propaganda emails from one of my friends. Since then I have been receiving a steady persistent stream of such emails from various sources, the vast majority of which are half truths to blatant lies garnished with an occasional sprinkling of humour.

    These emails are multiplied thousands of times and spread from friends to friends and are extremely effective to the non-thinking mind.

    With the recent availability of social networks and other blogs, the red guards from the so-called “Red Bean Army” started to invade and flood these sites with their well choreographed propaganda.

    It looks like they are using the same brainwashing techniques used by that devious demonic master brainwasher before and during the 2nd World War i.e. Hitler.

    Brainwashing techniques are based on the consistently persistent repetition of propaganda focused on just a few issues and continuously repeated in a slightly different way.

    The favourite issues used are corruption, abuse of power, religion and that the authorities do not care about the people like in recent case of “dangerous radioactive waste” from a certain innocent chemical plant.

    According to Adolf Hitler in- “War Propaganda”, in volume 1, chapter 6 of Mein Kampf (1925)

    “But the most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly and with unflagging attention.

    It must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over.

    Here, as so often in this world, persistence is the first and most important requirement for success.” Unquote.

    There are 4 stages in this Hitler type of brainwashing procedure:

    1. DISSEMINATION OF PROPAGANDA (usually well camouflaged lies)

    2. HARASSMENT OF NON-BELIEVERS

    3. INTIMIDATION OF INCORRIGIBLE DISSIDENTS and

    4. ELIMINATION OF THE OBSTINATE RECALCITRANTS

    The propaganda in the cyber space is, like what is mentioned in Hitler’s Mein Kampf, focused, constant, continuous, persistent and repeated again and again over the years.

    It is a misconception to think that brainwashing is only effective in the pre-world war days and that the well educated “well informed” modern man is not susceptible.

    We must remember that evolution has practically stopped in humans.

    Nowadays every human has an equal opportunity in the reproductive process and as such evolution do not work and the intelligence of the modern man is exactly the same as that of someone in pre-war period.

    From what I can see, the only way the Chinese based political parties can survive is to start their own “Red Bean Army” probably calling it “The RED BEETLE ARMY” to chew up the Red Beans !

    Dato’ Dr Looi Hoong Wah
    FAMM, MB., ChB(Manchester), MRCS(England), MRCP(UK) MRCP(London)

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