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	<title>Komen bagi: Hannah Yeoh menggertak: &#8220;Stop being dirty!&#8221;</title>
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		<title>Oleh: shamshul anuar</title>
		<link>http://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/01/25/hannah-yeoh-menggertak-stop-being-dirty/#comment-22257</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 09:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Helen 

People like MiNY sometime fail to realise that they are often seen as not understanding the Malays .

MiNY asked why I brought up the subject of status of non Malays way before in 1957. Not to irritate them but sometime a lesson in history is useful for some &quot;ahli politik lupa diri&#039;.

As for Malayan Union, Malays were dead set due to 2 facts: MU changed the status of Malay states from being &#039;protectorate to colony&quot; with the removal of Malay rulers . and the second objection is the ever lenient immigration rule.

Removal of Malay Ruler means Malays will lose the only living proof that they are the native of the land. with it, goes the whatever character the land have.  

On often much maligned UMNO playing racial record, pray what could possibly stop a political party that at its peak controlled almost 70% of Parliamentary seats from inflicting cruelty to say Chinese if that has been its target.  

Of course the same cant be said about DAP should it achieves political power equivalent to what UMNO have in 1957. 

Habis negara ini.
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&lt;em&gt;I&#039;ve got an article on MU &amp; 1948. I&#039;ll put up later. People like Sshsn are a big, big problem if he refuses to see how this Allah blow-up (Round #2) was ignited by his Lord Tokong who now has the Christian Sabah-S&#039;wak voted locked in while causing scorn to be poured on the Majlis Syura. -- Helen &lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen </p>
<p>People like MiNY sometime fail to realise that they are often seen as not understanding the Malays .</p>
<p>MiNY asked why I brought up the subject of status of non Malays way before in 1957. Not to irritate them but sometime a lesson in history is useful for some &#8220;ahli politik lupa diri&#8217;.</p>
<p>As for Malayan Union, Malays were dead set due to 2 facts: MU changed the status of Malay states from being &#8216;protectorate to colony&#8221; with the removal of Malay rulers . and the second objection is the ever lenient immigration rule.</p>
<p>Removal of Malay Ruler means Malays will lose the only living proof that they are the native of the land. with it, goes the whatever character the land have.  </p>
<p>On often much maligned UMNO playing racial record, pray what could possibly stop a political party that at its peak controlled almost 70% of Parliamentary seats from inflicting cruelty to say Chinese if that has been its target.  </p>
<p>Of course the same cant be said about DAP should it achieves political power equivalent to what UMNO have in 1957. </p>
<p>Habis negara ini.<br />
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<p><em>I&#8217;ve got an article on MU &amp; 1948. I&#8217;ll put up later. People like Sshsn are a big, big problem if he refuses to see how this Allah blow-up (Round #2) was ignited by his Lord Tokong who now has the Christian Sabah-S&#8217;wak voted locked in while causing scorn to be poured on the Majlis Syura. &#8212; Helen </em></p>
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		<title>Oleh: Helen Ang</title>
		<link>http://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/01/25/hannah-yeoh-menggertak-stop-being-dirty/#comment-22250</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Helen Ang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 08:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d embedded the Google Reader link in my earlier comment -- click there. Or you can research any other book for the Malayan Union protest numbers.

Demos that size when the peninsular Malayan population at the material time was under 4.9 million indicate that the Malays were against the idea of opening up citizenship to foreigners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d embedded the Google Reader link in my earlier comment &#8212; click there. Or you can research any other book for the Malayan Union protest numbers.</p>
<p>Demos that size when the peninsular Malayan population at the material time was under 4.9 million indicate that the Malays were against the idea of opening up citizenship to foreigners.</p>
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		<title>Oleh: MalaysianinNewYork</title>
		<link>http://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/01/25/hannah-yeoh-menggertak-stop-being-dirty/#comment-22248</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MalaysianinNewYork]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 08:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Helen, are you leading me on? The influence of MCP and the unionist post 2nd World War made way for Alliance. Historian tales were limited because UK only passed their FOIA in 2000. There is much to be digged on when you actually have the time in your hand to understand how the truth had been manipulated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen, are you leading me on? The influence of MCP and the unionist post 2nd World War made way for Alliance. Historian tales were limited because UK only passed their FOIA in 2000. There is much to be digged on when you actually have the time in your hand to understand how the truth had been manipulated.</p>
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		<title>Oleh: Helen Ang</title>
		<link>http://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/01/25/hannah-yeoh-menggertak-stop-being-dirty/#comment-22245</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Helen Ang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 07:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was a popular mass protest by the Malays.

In Kedah alone, &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com.my/books?id=RkWCNJCl0WAC&amp;pg=PA37&amp;lpg=PA37&amp;dq=%22malayan+union%22+demonstration+50,000&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=tJLRTX9bV6&amp;sig=xnEDv5-EfQ9e_9mMhPlffrHhwbM&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=DYkDUeuKAc_IrQeVtYDoAQ&amp;ved=0CDYQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false&quot; title=&quot;Google Reader: Book&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;50,000 Malays&lt;/a&gt; demonstrated against the Malayan Union.

We&#039;re talking about a crowd size of 50k when the entire population of the peninsula at that time was under 4.9 million (year 1947 pop. fig) and there was no mass media to mobilize attendance. 

Just in case you thought Kedah was an anomaly, the demo in Kelantan was 36,000.

In 1948, there was strong resistance against giving citizenship to the non-Malays.

It was only in 1957 that Tunku (and Umno!) berjaya pujuk the Malay polity to relent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a popular mass protest by the Malays.</p>
<p>In Kedah alone, <a href="http://books.google.com.my/books?id=RkWCNJCl0WAC&amp;pg=PA37&amp;lpg=PA37&amp;dq=%22malayan+union%22+demonstration+50,000&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=tJLRTX9bV6&amp;sig=xnEDv5-EfQ9e_9mMhPlffrHhwbM&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=DYkDUeuKAc_IrQeVtYDoAQ&amp;ved=0CDYQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false" title="Google Reader: Book" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">50,000 Malays</a> demonstrated against the Malayan Union.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re talking about a crowd size of 50k when the entire population of the peninsula at that time was under 4.9 million (year 1947 pop. fig) and there was no mass media to mobilize attendance. </p>
<p>Just in case you thought Kedah was an anomaly, the demo in Kelantan was 36,000.</p>
<p>In 1948, there was strong resistance against giving citizenship to the non-Malays.</p>
<p>It was only in 1957 that Tunku (and Umno!) berjaya pujuk the Malay polity to relent.</p>
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		<title>Oleh: MalaysianinNewYork</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MalaysianinNewYork]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 07:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Helen, I don&#039;t want to open a can of worms for why MU was not successful. This had nothing to do with the Malay interest as the Malay masses were not involved in the political decisions but how it fitted well for XXXXXX. Sometimes, we need to revisit history for what it is in reality. The Malays are never the problem but how they are continued to be manipulated even when we revisit the present day with all the affirmation actions for them. I think I have said enough and I am sure present day Malaysians can figure this out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen, I don&#8217;t want to open a can of worms for why MU was not successful. This had nothing to do with the Malay interest as the Malay masses were not involved in the political decisions but how it fitted well for XXXXXX. Sometimes, we need to revisit history for what it is in reality. The Malays are never the problem but how they are continued to be manipulated even when we revisit the present day with all the affirmation actions for them. I think I have said enough and I am sure present day Malaysians can figure this out.</p>
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		<title>Oleh: MalaysianinNewYork</title>
		<link>http://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/01/25/hannah-yeoh-menggertak-stop-being-dirty/#comment-22243</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MalaysianinNewYork]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shamsul, you say &quot;Why I asked them what were then the status of their parents way back before 1957? Not to remind them of the unpleasant “pendatang” status. Rather to bring them to my point&quot;. 

What is your point? There is no relevance in this topic unless you know the history of it. It is a fruitless exercise to indulge in this as history is well documented for what it is not what you say with a half past six knowledge. Nobody including me disregard the importance of the Melayu race in Malaysia nor their religious affection. 

The Melayus I know don&#039;t have a problem with other fellow Malaysians but it is the politically fanned folks that run an agenda with their religious nonsense. Let&#039;s stick to the basic ie humanity as this does not need religion, race or creed to uphold it. If humanity is your call, then no religion, race or creed needs defending to sustain this at least in Malaysia because I will like many others will defend my fellow Melayu brethrens on a basis of humanity if push comes to shove.
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&lt;em&gt;MiNY, don&#039;t forget the mass against Malayan Union 1946. That was a show of Malay power against throwing open the doors of citizenship. -- Helen &lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shamsul, you say &#8220;Why I asked them what were then the status of their parents way back before 1957? Not to remind them of the unpleasant “pendatang” status. Rather to bring them to my point&#8221;. </p>
<p>What is your point? There is no relevance in this topic unless you know the history of it. It is a fruitless exercise to indulge in this as history is well documented for what it is not what you say with a half past six knowledge. Nobody including me disregard the importance of the Melayu race in Malaysia nor their religious affection. </p>
<p>The Melayus I know don&#8217;t have a problem with other fellow Malaysians but it is the politically fanned folks that run an agenda with their religious nonsense. Let&#8217;s stick to the basic ie humanity as this does not need religion, race or creed to uphold it. If humanity is your call, then no religion, race or creed needs defending to sustain this at least in Malaysia because I will like many others will defend my fellow Melayu brethrens on a basis of humanity if push comes to shove.<br />
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<p><em>MiNY, don&#8217;t forget the mass against Malayan Union 1946. That was a show of Malay power against throwing open the doors of citizenship. &#8212; Helen </em></p>
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		<title>Oleh: shamshul anuar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shamshul anuar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MalaysianinNewYork, 

Again the truth hurts. Why I asked them what were then the status of their parents way back before 1957? Not to remind them of the unpleasant &quot;pendatang&quot; status. Rather to bring them them to my point.

And what exactly is my point? my point is that the Malays are not racist as depicted by DAP, Hannah Yeoh, Guan Eng or anyone else. 

I am not worried about UMNO or PKR. I am worried as an entire race is depicted as racists just to perpetuate Lim dynasty. I am worried because Chinese may not realise the danger of DAP bringing them to collide literally with the Malays.

I am stressing that no way you can gauge what Malays perceive simply by reading STAR, Malaysiakini or by engaging on mind boggling tweeting with Hannah Yeoh. 

Again, you misunderstood how Malay Muslim perceive religion. The Allah issue is a classic example. Many Chinese do not comprehend the issue. I do not blame them. I simply told them that the grouse is legitimate. 

&quot;You mean to say it is not UMNO plays the issue? They gave a surprise look when I told them it is about the very core of islam, not a political or semantic issue.

Then they realise the concern is genuine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MalaysianinNewYork, </p>
<p>Again the truth hurts. Why I asked them what were then the status of their parents way back before 1957? Not to remind them of the unpleasant &#8220;pendatang&#8221; status. Rather to bring them them to my point.</p>
<p>And what exactly is my point? my point is that the Malays are not racist as depicted by DAP, Hannah Yeoh, Guan Eng or anyone else. </p>
<p>I am not worried about UMNO or PKR. I am worried as an entire race is depicted as racists just to perpetuate Lim dynasty. I am worried because Chinese may not realise the danger of DAP bringing them to collide literally with the Malays.</p>
<p>I am stressing that no way you can gauge what Malays perceive simply by reading STAR, Malaysiakini or by engaging on mind boggling tweeting with Hannah Yeoh. </p>
<p>Again, you misunderstood how Malay Muslim perceive religion. The Allah issue is a classic example. Many Chinese do not comprehend the issue. I do not blame them. I simply told them that the grouse is legitimate. </p>
<p>&#8220;You mean to say it is not UMNO plays the issue? They gave a surprise look when I told them it is about the very core of islam, not a political or semantic issue.</p>
<p>Then they realise the concern is genuine.</p>
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		<title>Oleh: MalaysianinNewYork</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MalaysianinNewYork]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shamsul, can i be cruel &amp; crude to you besides what you think? Is this sinful for freedom of expression from a Muslim Lebanese like Shakira. see [&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUT5rEU6pqM&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;]. 

Don&#039;t worry too much of your UMNO or PR, there more to life when you don&#039;t run everything on a political stance even with your enhanced BTN dogma. The religion is not the issue, but humanity is when you are ready to accept it. 

As I said I am Gung Ho with Perkasa if humanity is what that they run on rather than what what is politically expedient.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shamsul, can i be cruel &amp; crude to you besides what you think? Is this sinful for freedom of expression from a Muslim Lebanese like Shakira. see [<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUT5rEU6pqM" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a>]. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry too much of your UMNO or PR, there more to life when you don&#8217;t run everything on a political stance even with your enhanced BTN dogma. The religion is not the issue, but humanity is when you are ready to accept it. </p>
<p>As I said I am Gung Ho with Perkasa if humanity is what that they run on rather than what what is politically expedient.</p>
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		<title>Oleh: MalaysianinNewYork</title>
		<link>http://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/01/25/hannah-yeoh-menggertak-stop-being-dirty/#comment-22232</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MalaysianinNewYork]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 05:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Helen, you are such a sweetheart, let me enjoy this with you no politics, religion or origin, just being a Malaysian. [YouTube: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbKHDPPrrc&quot; title=&quot;Doris Day&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Que sera sera&lt;/a&gt;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen, you are such a sweetheart, let me enjoy this with you no politics, religion or origin, just being a Malaysian. [YouTube: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbKHDPPrrc" title="Doris Day" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Que sera sera</a>]</p>
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		<title>Oleh: MalaysianinNewYork</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MalaysianinNewYork]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 05:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like this &quot;I told off several of my chinese friends about their parents status way back before 1957. They were stunned.&quot; 

Sure, what about your Indian friends? or they don&#039;t even fall into your equation as they are insignificant. The only justification for repressive institutions and repressive thoughts are material and cultural deficit for political survival, but such institutions and you, at certain stages of history as it is now perpetuate and produce such a deficit, and even threaten human survival. Who cares about human survival, because I need to survive and what is plausible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this &#8220;I told off several of my chinese friends about their parents status way back before 1957. They were stunned.&#8221; </p>
<p>Sure, what about your Indian friends? or they don&#8217;t even fall into your equation as they are insignificant. The only justification for repressive institutions and repressive thoughts are material and cultural deficit for political survival, but such institutions and you, at certain stages of history as it is now perpetuate and produce such a deficit, and even threaten human survival. Who cares about human survival, because I need to survive and what is plausible.</p>
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