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	<title>Komen bagi: Election 2013: Race contestation at its sharpest / review 1955-69</title>
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		<title>Oleh: shamshul anuar</title>
		<link>http://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/02/02/election-2013-race-contestation-at-its-sharpest-review-1955-69/#comment-23107</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shamshul anuar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 04:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[johhnymalaya, 

Nobody is denying that sizable Chinese population also votes for BN.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>johhnymalaya, </p>
<p>Nobody is denying that sizable Chinese population also votes for BN.</p>
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		<title>Oleh: jonnymalaya</title>
		<link>http://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/02/02/election-2013-race-contestation-at-its-sharpest-review-1955-69/#comment-23085</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jonnymalaya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 01:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But even in 1980s to 1990s, and 2004 the non Malay votes also went to BN. Without that, BN wouldn&#039;t have the 2/3-rds it once enjoyed.

In the past 20 years, it was only Kelantan &amp; Trengganu (Malay states) that have fallen to non BN hands...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But even in 1980s to 1990s, and 2004 the non Malay votes also went to BN. Without that, BN wouldn&#8217;t have the 2/3-rds it once enjoyed.</p>
<p>In the past 20 years, it was only Kelantan &amp; Trengganu (Malay states) that have fallen to non BN hands&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Oleh: Helen Ang</title>
		<link>http://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/02/02/election-2013-race-contestation-at-its-sharpest-review-1955-69/#comment-23026</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Helen Ang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 13:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re: &quot;As for 1955, the other parties weren’t very strong yet. PAS was only recently formed.&quot;

I wrote that PAS was registered in 1955 to be eligible to contest in the election. The party had its origins in Hizbul Muslimin in 1948. 

You can read Syed Akbar Ali @ http://syedsoutsidethebox.blogspot.com/2013/02/pas-hillybillies-versus-new-village-pro.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: &#8220;As for 1955, the other parties weren’t very strong yet. PAS was only recently formed.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wrote that PAS was registered in 1955 to be eligible to contest in the election. The party had its origins in Hizbul Muslimin in 1948. </p>
<p>You can read Syed Akbar Ali @ <a href="http://syedsoutsidethebox.blogspot.com/2013/02/pas-hillybillies-versus-new-village-pro.html" rel="nofollow">http://syedsoutsidethebox.blogspot.com/2013/02/pas-hillybillies-versus-new-village-pro.html</a></p>
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		<title>Oleh: Helen Ang</title>
		<link>http://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/02/02/election-2013-race-contestation-at-its-sharpest-review-1955-69/#comment-23016</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Helen Ang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 13:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P.S. I&#039;m not supporting Dr M&#039;s RCI. I&#039;m just discussing this in the context of Jonnymalaya&#039;s argument that it would have been a breeze for Chinese to qualify as registered citizens between 1948 and 1957 if they had applied.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. I&#8217;m not supporting Dr M&#8217;s RCI. I&#8217;m just discussing this in the context of Jonnymalaya&#8217;s argument that it would have been a breeze for Chinese to qualify as registered citizens between 1948 and 1957 if they had applied.</p>
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		<title>Oleh: Helen Ang</title>
		<link>http://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/02/02/election-2013-race-contestation-at-its-sharpest-review-1955-69/#comment-23015</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Helen Ang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 13:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the Chinese were interested in citizenship, the door was thrown wide open in 1946 via Malayan Union (to which the Malays objected). 

If they had been interested to apply at anytime prior to Merdeka, we would not have gotten the in-bulk 823,000 applications processed in 1958 as the stream of applicants would have steadily been applying each year instead of &quot;at the last minute&quot; when the crunch came in 1957 and they were forced to make a choice. 

As to whether they would have passed the processing under &quot;normal&quot; circumstances, as compared to the special circumstances of Merdeka 1957 (the 823,000 approved in 1958), would be the terms of the RCI mooted by Dr M.

You may conjecture that they would have been able pass, I may conjecture that they wouldn&#039;t but we&#039;re both speculating. Some kind of formal inquiry can better determine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Chinese were interested in citizenship, the door was thrown wide open in 1946 via Malayan Union (to which the Malays objected). </p>
<p>If they had been interested to apply at anytime prior to Merdeka, we would not have gotten the in-bulk 823,000 applications processed in 1958 as the stream of applicants would have steadily been applying each year instead of &#8220;at the last minute&#8221; when the crunch came in 1957 and they were forced to make a choice. </p>
<p>As to whether they would have passed the processing under &#8220;normal&#8221; circumstances, as compared to the special circumstances of Merdeka 1957 (the 823,000 approved in 1958), would be the terms of the RCI mooted by Dr M.</p>
<p>You may conjecture that they would have been able pass, I may conjecture that they wouldn&#8217;t but we&#8217;re both speculating. Some kind of formal inquiry can better determine.</p>
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		<title>Oleh: shamshul anuar</title>
		<link>http://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/02/02/election-2013-race-contestation-at-its-sharpest-review-1955-69/#comment-23011</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shamshul anuar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 11:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JohhnyMalaya, 

Nope. even in 1999 when UMNO was considerably weaken due to anwar&#039;s sacking, UMNO still manages to get the lion share of malay votes.

It still managed to win in Malay majority areas comfortably. Here I even disagree with Dr mahathir that Chinese votes saves BN. even at that time, approximately half of Chinese votes still went to DAP.

No doubt BN&#039;s chinese votes is considerable then. Not because they love Dr mahathir. rather, they may not want to experience what Indonesian chinese faced after the downfall of Suharto.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JohhnyMalaya, </p>
<p>Nope. even in 1999 when UMNO was considerably weaken due to anwar&#8217;s sacking, UMNO still manages to get the lion share of malay votes.</p>
<p>It still managed to win in Malay majority areas comfortably. Here I even disagree with Dr mahathir that Chinese votes saves BN. even at that time, approximately half of Chinese votes still went to DAP.</p>
<p>No doubt BN&#8217;s chinese votes is considerable then. Not because they love Dr mahathir. rather, they may not want to experience what Indonesian chinese faced after the downfall of Suharto.</p>
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		<title>Oleh: shamshul anuar</title>
		<link>http://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/02/02/election-2013-race-contestation-at-its-sharpest-review-1955-69/#comment-23010</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shamshul anuar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 11:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JohnnyMalaya, 

Mahathir&#039;s antics? Such as? 

Ibrahim ali does not represent UMNO. Why he is mocked when Suqiu and Dong Zong are considered as more racist from Malay viewpoint.

Is it wrong for any Malay leader to speak about Malay interests. which part of muhyiddin&#039;s statement that show he is racist? That he said he is Malay first. What is wrong about that. Since when Malays think Kit siang as Malaysian first, Chinese second? In fact malays believe that Kit siang is anti malay first.

Which part of utusan that is racist. i read utusan everyday. and i vouch that it is not racist.

The bottom line is that if UMNO (meaning Malays) are racist, Kit Siang and entire family would have been dead by now. And do tell me what UMNO can do to the Chinese at its strongest time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JohnnyMalaya, </p>
<p>Mahathir&#8217;s antics? Such as? </p>
<p>Ibrahim ali does not represent UMNO. Why he is mocked when Suqiu and Dong Zong are considered as more racist from Malay viewpoint.</p>
<p>Is it wrong for any Malay leader to speak about Malay interests. which part of muhyiddin&#8217;s statement that show he is racist? That he said he is Malay first. What is wrong about that. Since when Malays think Kit siang as Malaysian first, Chinese second? In fact malays believe that Kit siang is anti malay first.</p>
<p>Which part of utusan that is racist. i read utusan everyday. and i vouch that it is not racist.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that if UMNO (meaning Malays) are racist, Kit Siang and entire family would have been dead by now. And do tell me what UMNO can do to the Chinese at its strongest time.</p>
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		<title>Oleh: jonnymalaya</title>
		<link>http://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/02/02/election-2013-race-contestation-at-its-sharpest-review-1955-69/#comment-23002</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jonnymalaya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 10:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Layak melalui permohonan (through registration):

(a) la telah &lt;b&gt;diperanakkan&lt;/b&gt; dan telah tinggal dalam mana-mana negeri-negeri dalam Persekutuan selama 8 daripada 12 tahun terdahulu daripada permintaannya&quot;

Most Chinese &amp; Indians in Malaya by 1955 would already have been born on Malayan soil. Their parents too. Those from the 1st Gen would get it if they have a sufficient understanding of English OR Malay, and a good record.

When Malayan Union was being proposed, despite being an equal number the Indians &amp; Chinese did not press forward to support it. If they weren&#039;t interested in citizenship, they wouldn&#039;t have applied or even accepted it first place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Layak melalui permohonan (through registration):</p>
<p>(a) la telah <b>diperanakkan</b> dan telah tinggal dalam mana-mana negeri-negeri dalam Persekutuan selama 8 daripada 12 tahun terdahulu daripada permintaannya&#8221;</p>
<p>Most Chinese &amp; Indians in Malaya by 1955 would already have been born on Malayan soil. Their parents too. Those from the 1st Gen would get it if they have a sufficient understanding of English OR Malay, and a good record.</p>
<p>When Malayan Union was being proposed, despite being an equal number the Indians &amp; Chinese did not press forward to support it. If they weren&#8217;t interested in citizenship, they wouldn&#8217;t have applied or even accepted it first place.</p>
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		<title>Oleh: Atas Pagar</title>
		<link>http://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/02/02/election-2013-race-contestation-at-its-sharpest-review-1955-69/#comment-22998</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Atas Pagar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 09:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If there is splitting of votes amongst the majority, it is a norm and if there is any consequence to it, it is most likely benign. 

In contrast if 80-90% of the minority votes are to go to the candidates from the minority faction, it just show how smart the minority is; and only the liberal majority will allow that to happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is splitting of votes amongst the majority, it is a norm and if there is any consequence to it, it is most likely benign. </p>
<p>In contrast if 80-90% of the minority votes are to go to the candidates from the minority faction, it just show how smart the minority is; and only the liberal majority will allow that to happen.</p>
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		<title>Oleh: Helen Ang</title>
		<link>http://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/02/02/election-2013-race-contestation-at-its-sharpest-review-1955-69/#comment-22997</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Helen Ang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 08:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(1) When ABU-ers refuse to vote for PAS, their vote does not necessarily go to Umno or to MCA/MIC.

(2) For non-Penangite and Malaccan Chinese, the citizenship terms are &lt;a href=&quot;http://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/01/27/beza-cina-1948-dengan-melayu-1946/&quot; title=&quot;Citizenship&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. How many would have qualified? 

(3) And did you know that in the 1940s the Chinese here were more interested in China events (WWII) than they were in local developments?

(4) The Malayan Union, which the Malays opposed, was good for the Chinese. So logically if the Chinese were interested in Malayan citizenship, they should have backed the MU to the hilt so that the easy terms stayed instead of allowing the Malay 1946 protests to succeed and thus having MU replaced with the more stringent citizenship requirements of the 1948 Persekutuan Tanah Melayu agreement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(1) When ABU-ers refuse to vote for PAS, their vote does not necessarily go to Umno or to MCA/MIC.</p>
<p>(2) For non-Penangite and Malaccan Chinese, the citizenship terms are <a href="http://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/01/27/beza-cina-1948-dengan-melayu-1946/" title="Citizenship" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">here</a>. How many would have qualified? </p>
<p>(3) And did you know that in the 1940s the Chinese here were more interested in China events (WWII) than they were in local developments?</p>
<p>(4) The Malayan Union, which the Malays opposed, was good for the Chinese. So logically if the Chinese were interested in Malayan citizenship, they should have backed the MU to the hilt so that the easy terms stayed instead of allowing the Malay 1946 protests to succeed and thus having MU replaced with the more stringent citizenship requirements of the 1948 Persekutuan Tanah Melayu agreement.</p>
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