I. Ahli Umno konon
Ridhuan Tee Abdullah didakwa oleh pembaca Malaysiakini sebagai seorang ahli Umno.
Setahu saya, keahlian Umno dibuka kepada orang Melayu, pribumi, mamak, Siam dan Serani.
Jadi kenapa pula para pengomen di alam maya boleh menyangka Ridhuan seorang ahli Umno?
Adakah mereka pernah nampak kad keahliannya? Ataupun terserempak dengan beliau di PWTC tatkala berlangsungnya perhimpunan agung parti? Ataupun mereka membaca di mana-mana suratkhabar yang menyatakan fakta sedemikian?
Mungkin mereka begitu benci pada Umno dan dengan itu seseorang yang tidak disukai akan secara automatik dikaitkan dengan parti Melayu itu.
Ataupun mereka begitu membenci Ridhuan dan dengan itu sesuatu benda yang tidak disukai akan secara automatik dikaitkan dengan mualaf tersebut.
II. “Muslim chauvinist”
Lihat screenshot di atas halaman.
Pelanggan Malaysiakini yang menggelar dirinya Milosevic membuat komen mengatakan:
“His [Ridhuan’s] behaviour is similar to other religious converts, such as some Chinese Taoists/Buddhists becoming Christians.
“When they reject their parent’s culture and beliefs, and their own heritage, they tend to adopt a narrow identity and see the world in simplistic terms, taking their new belief as the sole and only truth and running down all other religions.
“I am not against religious conversions but I detest converts who become a menace to society, while deluding themselves that they are good pious people.”
Milosevic dan pengomen-pengomen yang sewaktu dengannya nampak marah pada saudara baru Islam yang:
(a) menolak kepercayaan dan budaya asal kaum keluarga serta warisan nenek moyang
(b) mengamalkan identiti yang sempit dan melihat dunia sebagai hitam putih sahaja
(c) menganggap Islam sebagai satu-satunya kebenaran serta memandang rendah agama lain
(d) mengaburi mata sendiri bahawa mereka adalah Muslim yang baik dan alim
Intipatinya, Ridhuan (ataupun mungkin orang Cina lain) yang masuk Islam dipandang serong.
Namun apa kata kalau saya bagi satu contoh selari pula, yakni seorang individu yang memeluk agama Kristian pada umur 19 tahun?
Selain menganggap Kristian sebagai satu-satunya jalan benar, individu tersebut juga
(a) menolak mentah-mentah warisan “Indian”
(b) mengenakan identiti sempit (kalau bukan Bangsar Malaysia, anda mestilah “RASSSISSSS!!!”), “see the world in simplistic terms” — Umno evil / undi DAP dapat masuk Jerusubang
(c) “low class”: memandang rendah orang yang mempunyai fahaman bercanggah
(d) “righteous”, “we’re gonna serve the Lord”, “may God have mercy on you”
Tak nampak pun mana-mana penyokong pembangkang mengamuk sakan dengan Cina yang masuk Kristian…
III. “Low class filthy Chinaman”
Komen di Facebook oleh Rk Sandhu (screenshot atas) adalah respons kepada rencana FMT – ‘Act on Ridhuan or face the music‘ (19 Feb 2013).
Si pengomen menggelar Ridhuan sebagai “low class”. Maklumlah orang Jerusubang…
Yang saya hendak pertikaikan ialah kenapa seorang Anak Bangsar Malaysia mahu mengungkit “identiti” bangsa dengan mengatakan Ridhuan seorang “Chinaman” yang mahu dianggap Melayu (“Malay wannabe”)?
Bukankah Sang Firster itu seorang yang buta warna kulit serta selalu menegah orang lain daripada mengaku bangsa masing-masing? Tetapi di sini mereka nampaknya sendiri yang begitu obses dengan ras.
IV. bin Abdullah
Adakah anda masih ingat lagi pada seorang pengarang Star itu yang mengatakan bahawa konsep Ras sebenarnya tidak wujud?
Sekiranya setiap warga tidak mempunyai etnik tetapi sebaliknya semua orang adalah Anak Malaysia, kenapa pula mahu Ridhuan dituduh telah memurtadkan keCinaannya?
Nampak seolah-olah macam penyokong pembangkang tidak berkenan dengan mualaf yang memakai nama Islam “bin Abdullah” ataupun “binti Abdullah”. Kenapa pula begitu walhal merekalah yang selalu menyuarakan kata-kata bahawa semua orang Malaysia adalah bersaudara “brothers and sisters”?
Oh, hampir saya lupa. Orang Kristian ni selalu pesan, “vilify the sin but love the sinner”. Maksudnya sebagai seorang pencinta Yesus, penganut-penganut Kristian perlu menunjukkan rasa kasih sayang pada semua orang dan jiran mahupun yang berdosa. Ini termasuk Ridhuan, bukan?
Love the sinner, lah, beb. Ini tak. Asyik mencarut aje.
Helen Ang 
The Cina woman and the Tamil wannabe Christian priests are just too late to the party.. Even the Pope resigned. He had enough of being the head of a cruel and evil cult.
Some in the west even want the Pope to be tried for crimes against humanity because of the rapes of girls and sodomy of altar boys. Ten of thousands of victims which anyone can google.
Kesian. Carrying the torch for the Italian religion doesnt cut it anymore. And why would any sane man or woman want to contribute to the Italian mafia is strange indeed for that is what the Vatican really is.
It is the same for Ridhuan Tee. The Taliban is passe. You want to laugh when you read his kampung thoughts. He is just using the Malays to get back at the Chinese for whatever reason.
He doesnt like the Malays moderate and modern way of life. He wants the Malays to be Taliban.
But he wont join PAS. He fails to understand UMNO is nationalist not theocratic, thinking that Malays should be what they are not. Malays are not Arabs. Malays should do this, Malays should do that to the Chinese huh?
re: “Even the Pope resigned. He had enough of being the head of a cruel and evil cult.”
“Cruel” and “evil” … now if the other side were to use those same words to describe another religion, you can well imagine the brouhaha that would arise.
There are things done in the history of religion and in the name of religion that deserve to be put under scrutiny both past and present. If we (people in Malaysia) were more reasonable and restrained, we would be able to carry out a critical discourse.
That’s why it is important to promote rationality. However the hypocrisy of the current situation is that those shouting the loudest about free and fair media are not the ones safeguarding the mechanics of freedom of expression.
On the contrary, they are the very ones feeding the irrationality so that they can get mob backing to drive their agenda. The experience of Dr Looi on the Lynas plant operations is case in point.
This may interest you http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2010/03/27/the-catholic-church-is-a-criminal-enterprise/. That is why after three years he had to resign. As for rationality, it takes two hands to clap. Definition, rationality, religion, politic and structure are ways of seeing which imprison us when we blank out other ways of seeing when humanity is sought.
Helen ang defending ridhuan tee. ..one scumbag to another
FFF,
Nope. Neither Helen or Dr ridhuan are scumbags. They are too “polished” for that. They have class. They have substance. They write but they do not slander. They criticize with flair and style.
The scumbags “worship DAP. To them “the Son in Heaven” (Guan Eng) cant do no wrong. Nevermind that he is childish, paranoid, cocky, rude.
They have class? Really?
“The experience of Dr Looi on the Lynas plant operations is case in point.”
Obviously Anti-Lynas prefers to listen to a spin doctor (Mr Wong Tuck) instead of a medical doctor. So I won’t be surprised if all the hard work put up by Dr Looi is not welcome by Anti-Lynas and worse a real doctor’s intention is viewed as an attempt to blind them with science.
“re: “Even the Pope resigned. He had enough of being the head of a cruel and evil cult.”
“Cruel” and “evil” … now if the other side were to use those same words to describe another religion, you can well imagine the brouhaha that would arise. ”
I guess if some were to say Hindu or Islam is cruel and evil, that is what you mean. Well, everyone have access to the internet and that is what some western people say. You just have to google it up.
And it would do the Malays good too to read other opinions of the arab religion.
Does Christianity deserve to be called cruel and evil? A commenter below gives you the links to the western view of Catholics so we are just repeating their views. You see the western people see Catholics as evil over the centuries, its only Hanna and Lingam or whoever, who dont know that. But we can forgive them for they know not what they do. At least before there is the internet. Now there are voluminous articles on the evil of Catholics on the internet that there is no excuse not to know.
Simplistic chinese and indians see english name and hah, they think theya are as cool as Brad Pitt. But you can hear Brad Pitt warns on the evil of Catholicsm on youtube. So we must teach these people being western/english and being Catholics are not the same. Catholics is evil while western are secular and democratic.
Some borneoan natives are upset at the Malays dismissal of Christianity, not knowing that it was the Catholics Portuguese priests who killed the Malays in Melaka in 1511 and destroyed the Malay Sultanate. So Malays and Catholics have a long history of enmity.
The european tried to hide the real reasons for their killings of mankind from India, to burma to Malaya to Indon to Filipines.
Its all due to the papal bull of the Pope so Malays are justified in calling Catholics evil. There is no reason for borneos natives to feel angry because Catholicsm is not their religion. (it is a european religion just as Islam is from Arabia brought by Indian traders) In fact the european forced the natives to forget their own Bobohizan priests and replaced them with germans/dutch/inggeris etc priests.
Redhuan Tee bukanlah orang politik makanya apa saja pandangan yang diutarakan ia kekal sebagai pandangan peribadi.
Dalam konteks demokrasi, semua pihak boleh memberikan pandangan dan pembaca berhak untuk bersetuju dengan pandangan itu atau tidak.
Berbeza dengan orang politik di mana pandangan yang diutarakan mungkin akan dijadikan polisi makanya pandangan orang politik perlu diberikan perhatian dan keutamaan.
Dari sudut politik, isu Dr Redhuan sengaja ditimbulkan bagi mengalih tumpuan masyarakat dari kes perobohan kuil mini persendirian di Selangor baru-baru ini.
Tapi orang Pakatoon tak percaya Demokrasi. Mereka hanya percaya Democrazy, Demokasi dan Demo.
Sis Helen,
Dalam komen banyak-banyak pasal Ridhuan Tee, DAPster terlupa Zairil pun Cina Murtad jugak. Kenapa tak bising?
Pernahkah Zairil buat komen rasis?
Butakah kau ni? Tiada siapa yang pertikaikan apa agama yang Ridhuan Tee yang nak peluk. Cuma pendekatan dia tu ternampak sangat dia ingin menjadi orang melayu celup dan lupakan akar sendiri bahkan selalu menyerang tradisi nenek moyang sendiri.
Apakah jenis ” ustaz ” yang lupakan kulit ini satu teladan yang baik untuk dicontohi oleh orang muda?
Eh, I thought Ravin is race-blind? I thought he supports Anak Malaysia?
Apakah jenis ” bapa ” yang lupakan kulit ini satu teladan yang baik untuk dicontohi oleh orang muda?
Race-blind only when it suits their purpose & agenda. Hallmark of DAP [supporters] and evangelistas …. paku dulang paku serpih, mengata orang, dia yang lebih!
So you’re on a blog belonging to Helen Ang and trying to be moralistic? Helen Ang?
Tidak ada salahnya menegur tradisi nenek moyang sendiri kalau ianya ketinggalan zaman. Bukankah dia lebih layak membicarakan tradisi nenek moyangnya sendiri berbanding editor NYT contohnya?
Teguran RT bagi saya adalah ikhlas demi kebaikan bangsanya sendiri (China) memandangkan semakin ramai remaja memilih budaya yang jauh lebih ringkas dan bersesuaian dengan naluri keremajaan (Evangelis contohnya).
Mungkin teguran RT tidak nampak kebaikannya pada masa ini, iaitu sama seperti jambatan PP yang tidak nampak kebaikannya semasa ianya dibina tetapi kini jambatan itu membuatkan Dap terpaksa menelan balik kritikan mereka.
Dalam konteks sama, mungkin satu hari nanti, akar bangsa RT akan nampak kebenaran berhubung teguran beliau dan mungkin RT akan dianggap sebagai ‘penyelamat’ tetapi teguran itu tidak banyak membantu kalau nasi sudah jadi bubur!
You mean like the mangosteen or banana (just to be fair)?
But raven, at least Ridhuan still has his family name with him still yellow inside out. To me he is telling the truth as what he saw and experienced, not something like your type were doing i.e. only by ‘perceptive’ without fact nor personal knowledge.
Zairil org politik….ridhuan bukan org politik…itu hanya pandangan peribadi….kita tahu perlembagaan…tegakkan perlembagaan..
‘ lupakan akar sendiri bahkan selalu menyerang tradisi nenek moyang sendiri.’
Ridzuan Tee atau Born Again Christians – siapa lebih kerap menyerang tradisi?
love the sinner.
i love DAP [supporter] chauvinist racist comments.
i want to hug and cry and share my moments of joy to the DAP [supporter] sinner chauvinist egoistical and racists supporters who think they are the center of universe.
let me praise yesus the lord with the DAP [supporter] sinner chauvinist egoistical and racists supporters who think they are the center of universe.
hallelujah! praise the LORD ALLAH!
Malaysiakini is the bully pulpit for a certain section of race obsessed Malaysian Chinese who never had a problem labeling others as “racists” while engaging in the very behavior they claim to detests.
This entire BS about multiculturalism and “needs based” ideologies is merely code for protecting their own communities interests by maintaining a facade of egalitarianism but in reality maintaining the UMNO/BN status quo.
DAP apparatchiks use lies as weapons, hypocrisy as shields and have no problem using religion (Christianity in most cases) as a convenient fig leaf.
However, Ridhuan Tee is loathsome example of an UMNO product and you do not need to be a card-carrying member of UMNO to enjoy their support.
Disgraceful was the only word to describe the MoD when they endorsed his racist/bigoted tracts. The fact that he lectures or has anything to do with the defense establishment, is reflective of how
morally bankrupt this country is.
re: “DAP apparatchiks use lies as weapons, hypocrisy as shields and have no problem using religion (Christianity in most cases) as a convenient fig leaf.”
:D and the best part is that they accuse their opponents of the same in greater degree
RT is not my favourite person on the planet either.
I can jive with your argument that he needn’t be a card-carrying member. In fact I’ve made the same argument myself in that today one can still be called a Nazi despite the Nazi party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, as regular commenter Joe has pointed out, note the DAP abbreviation) becoming defunct with the collapse of the Third Reich.
But since the Dapsters go wildly off tangent, nailing them on the concrete lack of RT’s Umno membership, I feel, should be done to rein them in to sticking to what is provable.
RT actually qualifies to be a PAS member by virtue of being a Muslim but technically he would still fall outside the Umno ambit.
While I agree that Dapsters lie when convenient (nice reference
to the Nazi party acronym, btw but unfortunately the impact is somewhat diluted because RT by his own words is sympathetic to Nazi propaganda) your post on RT has the faint smell of victimhood.
He ain’t no victim of vicious Dapster lies but rather an active participant in this race/culture/political war with the Opposition, who has used lies as a weapon too and racked up his fair share of collateral damage.
RT may technically qualify of being a member of PAS because of his Islamic pedigree, however I would argue that none of his rhetoric has ever remotely echoed that of either PAS’s maha firaun spiel or of late Endrogan sniveling.
If anything, I would argue that his tracts have almost always favored the UMNO narrative that most times has very little to do with Islam but more to do with maintaining political party hegemony.
re: “He [is] an active participant in this race/culture/political war with the Opposition” — yes
re: “who has used lies as a weapon too” — I have disputed his rhetoric on ‘temples’ outnumbering mosques; he must have counted the shrines placed under trees and lodged in rock crevices
Nonetheless, I presently wish to highlight how the Dapsters throw the “bin Abdullah” name as a racial slur whereas they don’t feel the same sense of grievance when a Chinese uses the names like “Kayleigh Imani” and “Shay Adora”.
Mymassa (comment on this page) has rightly pointed out that DAP poster boy Zairil may fit the same RT mould. Mymassa is the blogger who broke the story unearthing Zairil’s formal adoption papers. Zairil’s Chinese mother converted upon marriage to Khir Johari or thereabouts, and presumably Guan Eng’s blue-eyed boy might have done the same (one would hazard).
Other bin and binti Abdullahs are not as prominent as RT (in terms of public interest), so I think his predicament is a convenient vehicle to raise the matter of the attitude of the self-proclaimed multi-culturalists belonging to the Bangsar Malaysia tribe. Attitude as in how they look at the mamak and mualaf.
Fair enough.
I am just uncomfortable with the idea that RT like the online DAP apparanchiks should be used as anything other than convenient targets of mockery.
Re: Zairil. This is just another example of how the Mandarins of the DAP are controlling the race discource in this country. How this differs from UMNO is beyond me
Remember kids, the only “good” Malays/ true Muslims are those who drink the Pakatan Kool aid.
Dear Helen
Keep doing what you are doing. Those ‘buta hati’ DAPsters and jerusubang, would continue to be ‘buta akal’ and ‘buta mata’.
The good thing is the loss is theirs. Not yours and ours.
You too would be singled out by the mob just like Dr Ridhuan Tee.
Again i can say with certainty that Dr Ridhuan is at peace with himself, his Allah, his family and his community. Can we say the same about those who hated and spew hatred on him?
May Allah bless us all good people
Thank you
A man at peace with himself will not be so easily worried by the presence of cave temples & celebrations of other religions.
Certainly RT has issues within himself
Talking about loving the sinners, check out the comments one “Suzanne Lazaroo” made over the telling off Fr Jean Claude Lourdes got on Sunday. I may be mistaken, but she’s one of them Star editorial staff.
http://stopthelies.my/?p=2485#
Love the sinners my foot. At least a lot of us don’t pretend to do so for show. I hate my enemies period
re: ” I hate my enemies period”
Love your comment!
kak helen kalau ikut perlembagaan DRT tu mmg boleh masuk UMNO pon tapi tak pasti la dia ahli ke tak
Will double check Umno constitution later if its online.
maksud saya perlembagaan malaysia..dia boleh diiktiraf sebagai melayu…so boleh la kot join umno…tapi saya harap dia bukan ahli UMNO sbb once org akademik jadi ahli parti politik cakap-cakap dia org dah tak berapa respek
Memang betul. Kalau ikut perlembagaan, yang cakap macam Melayu, makan macam Melayu, agama macam Melayu dia tu Melayu.
Ada tertakluk kepada syarat tarikh dan tempat kelahiran juga.
Sekiranya seorang Bangladesh yang sedia Muslim belajar cakap BM serta mengamalkan adat dan budaya Melayu, dia tidak akan layak menjadi Melayu ikut perlembagaan kerana bukan lahir di Malaya ataupun ibubapanya tidak bermastautin di Malaya semasa atau sebelum 1957.
Helen,
The thing that riles DAP (with regards to Dr RT) is that he (Dr Ridhuan) seems to defends Malay or Muslims.
Dr Ridhuan Tee is my neighbour and he has some influence too. Due to his academic level, he is now chairman of PIBG in one school in Ampang although he repeatedly tries to reject the post.
But dr ridhuan is a Chinese. Nothing wrong about that. Only he is “closer” to the Malay/Muslim community. Closer. Yup. closer. “Closer’ because he shares the bond as “umat Nabi Muhammad SAW”.
Dr Ridhuan is highly regarded within and outside academic circle. May i say that no Malay would reject say if Yang diPertuan agong appoints him say as Yang DiPertua of Melaka. He fits the bill.
It riles DAP for a Chinese to defend Malays, UMNO or Muslim. But Dr Ridhuan is not anti Chinese. He is just anti DAP for its fanatical view that everything must revolve around Lim dynasty with Malays (being the ever generous native) have no place in this land.
It riles DAP when A Chinese keep reminding Chinese community on how benevolence Malays, UMNO are. It riles DAP when a Chinese reminds them that UMNO’s rule while is not perfect and with shortcomings, is a source of beauty and generosity unheard in other parts of the world.
In other countries, they would say “berambus keluar kalau nak sekolah Cina”. And in other cuntries forget about thinking to stand and even win in native constituents UNTIL YOU become “one like them”. Meaning sharing their principles and idea.
A bit of apprecitaion is a manifastation of good breeding. I advise chinese community to “show positive attitude” to Najib’s out reaching them.
Should they reject Najib this coming election, Najib will be forced to accept what the Malays have been saying all this time “buat apa jadi pemurah pada orang yang tak tahu terimakasih”.
And Najib will be hardpressed to “honour” the races that support him. And the era of Chinese Ministers is coming to its end as the Chinese votes themselves out of the govt.
re: “era of Chinese Ministers is coming to its end”
No loss lah if Ng Yen Yen and Liow Tiong Lai do not become ministers.
re: “But Dr Ridhuan is not anti Chinese. He is just anti DAP for its fanatical view that everything must revolve around Lim dynasty …”
He calls the DAP the “ultra kiasu parti” and he calls the Chinese race the “ultra kiasu” wor.
SA,
Wow. From where you get the mandate to claim “May i say that no Malay would reject say if Yang diPertuan agong appoints him say as Yang DiPertua of Melaka. He fits the bill.” Since when the Malays have appointed you as their spokesman? Or you self appoint yourself and make unfounded claim?
Are you presuming that BN will surely win the coming general election, hence your claim of “And the era of Chinese Ministers is coming to its end as the Chinese votes themselves out of the govt.”? Please do not count the chickens before they are hatched. Until the result of the election is announced, no one can claim victory.
Are you suggesting that the non-Malays like Chinese, Indian, Sabah Sarawak Bumiputeras etc are relying on the mercy of Malays by saying “buat apa jadi pemurah pada orang yang tak tahu terimakasih”? Are you trying to equate Vote BN = Berterima kasih? What if Vote PR = ????
I’m sorry Mr. SA, but Ridhuan Tee’s attitudes certainly go beyond the boundary of disliking a political faction(s) to disliking “heathen” non Muslims. I have read his articles, and they certainly blast the Chinese and Indian races as a whole. They are labelled ultra kiasu, he condemns the presence of their places of worship, and now he also derogatorily condemns the Thaipusam festival. Keep in mind this is not the first time he had spewed his prejudice toward Batu Cave & the Thaipusam festivalities there.
The fact that you agree with him & find no issue with his action shows a lot about your own thinking, Mr. SA.
Individual like Dr RT has limited space to move around within the Dapster sovereign territory just like Woo Chee Keong; Hasan Ali in Pas; and Mamak in MIC.
The way I see it, RT can actually make a fortune for Dapster party but the “anti- bin Abdulla” sentiment is something he must first overcome before he could prove his worthiness.
As for now, no matter how much verbal diarrhea poured at DR RT, it will not help to elevate the image of Dapster in the eyes of Muslims. It will only help to further prove the “anti- bin Abdulla” stance among Dapsters.
For Dapster own good, they should ask this question: Why people like Dr DT prefer to stay away from them; but not to throw overtantrum whenever DR RT is seen as staying too close to its enemy.
Pindaan perlembagaan Barisan Nasional melalui Pelan Transformasi BN membenarkan sesiapa saja mengemukakan permohonan terus untuk menjadi ahli BN tanpa menyertai mana-mana parti komponen.
Keahlian mana-mana parti yang beliau (RT) daftar tidak dapat dipastikan melainkan beliau sendiri berhasrat untuk mencadi calon PRU ,maka beliau perlulah menjadi ahli salah satu daripada parti komponen. Namun, penulisan beliau di Utusan Malaysia banyak mengkritik tentang sikap kiasu bangsa asal beliau sendiri dan adakalanya sesetengah kaum Cina begitu fobia terhadap bangsa sendiri yang berbinkan Abdullah. Di sinilah beliau dilabel sebagai pencacai UMNO dan sebagainya.
Beliau hanya memberikan pandangan dan hujah tanpa memaksa mana-mana pihak untuk bersetuju di atas kesemua kenyataan beliau. Sepatutnya orang Melayu Islam perlu berasa segan terhadap RT dimana seorang muallaf terlalu bersungguh-sungguh memperjuangkan kedudukan bangsa dan agama mereka sedangkan yang sedia ada belum tentu menghayati jatidiri mereka sendiri bahkan bersekongkol dan memecah-belahkan untuk menghancurkan negara.
Tidak dinafikan adakalanya beliau bertindak sedikit ekstrim. Pada saya, itu cara pendekatan beliau sendiri untuk mempertahankan Islam dan mengingatkan orang Melayu khususnya sedangkan pentaksub Kristian pun ada juga yang lantang berkokok setiap hari dan tidak pula dimurtadkan Melayu-Melayu celup yang sibuk memberi komen menyokong pendakwah Kristian di ruangan komen FMT.
Pakatoon mempunyai sindrom melatah tahap kronik di mana pentaksub tegar mereka sendiri telah melatah dahulu sebelum dicucuk/geletek ketiak dan pinggang mereka. DAP memang parti hi-class untuk orang-orang di bandar. Itu sebabnya ditolak oleh kebanyakan golongan middle-class sebab DAP tidak mampu untuk membela nasib mereka disebabkan DAP lebih memilih bulu untuk meramaikan golongan yang perasan hi-class dari negara jiran untuk menghuni rumah mesra rakyat acuan mereka, walhal DAP sendiri tidak sedar mereka banyak bekerjasama bersama pemimpin low-class berotak udang.
Mcm biasa, kalau org Islam yg berckp akan dicop rasis. Kalau DAPster dan kuncu-kuncunya, hak bersuara. WTF
When I first read the issue in your blog, I thought what is the issue? So I went to Ridhuan Tee blog to read the article. The first paragraph reads
“Majlis Madrasah India Muslim Malaysia (MIM) memberi maklumat kepada saya mengenai kontroversi filem Vishwaroopam, yang telah dihentikan penayangannya buat sementara waktu oleh Kementerian Dalam Negeri (KDN), ekoran banyak adegan menghina agama Islam. Malangnya, parti politik India komponen Barisan Nasional (BN), mendesak mahukan filem ini terus ditayangkan kerana pada mereka ia hanya lakonan semata-mata. Jahil sungguh mereka dalam memahami budaya masyarakat Islam.”
The first paragraph explains everything about the issue. It is another stunt by some foreign film to insult and ridicule Islam. When someone wrote against it, the person is labeled as racist. It is another typical scenario that everyone can or should have the freedom ridicule and insult Islam under the pretext of freedom of speech but when you retaliate against them or wrote against the act, you are racist and ought to be punish for ridicule and insult the race who purportedly initiated the insult.
Everyone seems to expect the Muslim to compromise, but at the same time they are not willing to compromise and respect others. No wonder Ridhuan said Kesabaran orang Islam ada Had.
http://www.sinarharian.com.my/kolumnis/ridhuan-tee-abdullah/kesabaran-umat-islam-ada-had-1.132091
(1) Ridhuan Tee commented on the Tamil film Vishwaroopam without watching it himself. Therefore what he’s written about the “banyak adegan menghina agama Islam” can only be according to hearsay.
(2) Ridhuan Tee wrote: “Pertama, umat Islam digambarkan sebagai pengganas.”
Let’s say someone wanted to make a film of 911. Well, we can’t portray the pilots of those planes crashing into the New York Twin Towers as Christians, Buddhists or Hindus, can we?
Does that mean that any film on Muslims carrying out terrorist acts will be banned in Malaysia?
However, I agree that that we should avoid stereotyping that Muslims are violent (terrorists), Indians are drunks and Chinese are Shylocks.
(3) Ridhuan Tee wrote: “Malangnya, apabila anak muda bukan Islam mencampak kepala babi ke dalam surau, maka tidak dikenakan tindakan.”
How does he know that it was a non-Muslim youth(s) who threw the pig head? Going by media reports, I remember in one incident it was reported that the head was that of wild boar.
Now if it were a Chinese who had wanted to get hold of a pig head, all he has to do is go to the market and buy it from the butcher. Much simpler.
I should imagine it would be more troublesome to have to hunt a wild boar and decapitate it yourself. And how many Chinese hunt anyway?
(4) Ridhuan Tee also wrote the following paragraph which prompted the MIC complaint:
(5) And he wrote the following which is a leitmotif that he has never been able to substantiate empirically:
(6) re: “typical scenario that everyone can or should have the freedom ridicule and insult Islam”
I have to disagree on this. The consequences are very dire for anyone daring to ridicule and insult Islam.
The most recent international incident, i.e. the YouTube trailer of the ‘Sam Bacile’ budget movie cost the American ambassador in Libya his life and that of several of the embassy staff and security guards plus dozens more locals who died in the subsequent riots and the bombings retaliation.
(7) I do however agree with the sentiment behind “Kesabaran orang Islam ada Had”. I’m also losing my patience with the Dapsters and the Jerusubangites. And isn’t it good that this cuts across race and religion?
In Sarawak, “ultra kiasu” are quite the avid hunter. In fact, my dad, my brother & me hunt several times a year. :-D
Obviously I’m too peninsula and Klang Valley-minded.
Okay, to refine my sweeping statement (amended version): I don’t reckon the city dwelling Chinese in the areas nearby where the surau/mosque is located are generally great hunters.
Postscript (6.38am, Feb 22):
FFC was referring to my earlier comment: “And how many Chinese hunt anyway?”
Hahaha… Good thing too as if Lé God hunts, it is easy to mistake him for a simian since some consider them an exotic delicacy at about RM60 per kg
Helen;
Orang melayu dan orang Islam tak buru babi hutan kerana kalau dapatpun tak boleh makan.
Ni bukan diburu untuk makan. Mahu dibunuh binatang tu supaya boleh dipenggal kepalanya dan kepala itu dilontor ke dalam perkarangan surau, yakni babak “menghina Islam” yang diberitakan Ostad Ridhuan dalam ruangan pojoknya di suratkhabar.
If there’s anything useful that can be gleaned from a article by RT, is that in “tersirat”, RT has prejudices against non Muslims.
His article about Thaipusam & Vishapooram certainly speaks for itself.
“Kesabaran orang Islam ada Had”
Apa yang orang Islam perlu bersabar ini? Orang Islam ini selalu ada ‘siege mentality’. Selalu ingat bahawa Islam sedang digugat oleh ancaman dalam dan luar. Umat Islam Malaysia mendakwa diancam oleh hampir semua orang bukan Islam seperti campurtangan Yahudi, LBGT, orang Kristian (isu kalimah Allah dan murtad), kekuatan politik DAP, MCA (menentang Hudud) dan Ambiga (Bersih). Sehingga orang India pun kononnya mengugat Melayu Islam seperti apa yang Ridhuan Tee cakap, filem Vishwaroopam, perayaan Thaipusam dan kuil.
Mengapa orang Islam tidak melihat ancaman oleh orang Islam sendiri seperti pemimpin Islam yang rasuah, korup, kronism, tidak berintegriti dsb? Contoh isu Shahrizat (skandal lembu NFC), Mahathir (anaknya Mokhzani adalah ‘billionaire’ syarikat Kencana Petroleum), Khir Toyo (rumah mewah RM24 juta), Taib Mahmud (kes cerai anak di mana bekas isteri tuntut RM400 juta), Muhd Taib (larikan anak Sultan Selangor dan ditahan di lapangan terbang dengan wang RM6 juta), Isa Samad (disabitkan oleh UMNO sendiri atas tuduhan politik wang tapi masih boleh jadi ADUN dan pengerusi FELDA) dan banyak lagi.
Simon,
Read carefully what i wrote. I neither claim to be the spokesman for Malays nor I claim the Malays appoint me as their spokesman.
It is just Malays embrace Dr Ridhuan as he shares the common bond as “umat Nabi Muhammad SAW”. Malays have no issue with Dr Ridhuan or “mamak” who are “black metallic”. It is DAP that is racist despite proclaiming others as racist.
As for my view on Dr Ridhuan as a candidate say for the post of Yang diPertua negeri, I know as I am a malay.
As for “showing positive attitude” I mean that “it takes two to tango”. No need to appoint someone from Chinese community as a minister if they continue to reject BN. that is the practice in all countries. Why bother to appoint if they reject you.
And no need to flatter malays. Rather there is no need to pawn chinese interests just to perpetuate Lim dynasty.
Shamsul Anuar please dont speak for the Malays. The Malays do not want RTee brand of Islam which is jumud.
Just because he is PIBG then he can become Melaka Yang di Pertua..muahahaha what a joke. You insult the Melaka YDP with such reference.
RT is not Malay because according to the Fed Constitution a Chinese must practice Malay culture and speak the language too beside being a muslim.
Malay culture is best presented by Tan Sri P Ramlee great music and films.
Does Rtee sing any malay songs? Dance any malay dance? Do you know he send his sons to Chinese schools?
so at heart he is a Chinese with an axe to grind against the Chinese for wallahuallam.
Riduan T not a Malay!,
“Shamsul Anuar please dont speak for the Malays. The Malays do not want RTee brand of Islam which is jumud.
Just because he is PIBG then he can become Melaka Yang di Pertua..muahahaha what a joke. You insult the Melaka YDP with such reference.”
Good one friend. That is what I am trying to tell SA. His opinion as to RT becoming a candidate of Governor is purely his personal opinion. And he dare to claim that the Malays in general will agree to his opinion. How funny. SA, you should differentiate between your personal opinion and the public opinion. You may be a Malay, but you are not speaking for the rest of the Malay.
Dear Helen,
The way I see it, when DRTee calls the DAP the “ultra kiasu parti” and he calls the Chinese race the “ultra kiasu”, I admit that I do agree with him.
Knowing DRTee, and being a chinese muslim myself, I understand very well the intention of DrTee on the issue of ‘anti-bin abdullah’. Not only me but most chinese muslim in this beloved country will say the same base on their experiences with the non-muslim chinese community in which either MCA, Gerakan or especially the DAP which DRTee is talking about.
I believe that all chinese should take seriously the potential hazard of “era of Chinese Ministers is coming to its end” should the chinese community choose to back-up any party that practises ultra-kiasu policy.
Malaysian chinese votes are split between to MCA/Gerakan and DAP and no doubt decision making is not simple thus DRTee calling should be taken as a wake-up call to all….not only to chinese.
Thanks for your comment. Can you pls gimme your input on the following mini phenomenon:
I notice that the blog belonging to Zainuddin Maidin, the former Information Minister, occasionally carries articles in Malay which are translated from the Chinese newspapers.
His stable of translators include Doreen Ng Abdullah, Robert Koh Abdullah, Wan Abdullah Ng, Robert Wong Abdullah, Abdullah Tan, Wang Wei Ng Abdullah, Muslim Ngoh Abdulah and Hassan Abdullah.
(1) Don’t non-Muslim Chinese generally have a good command of BM and able to do translation work?
(2) Or is it that the paymasters (whether it is Zam himself or his ex-Ministry) place more trust in Chinese Muslims than they do non-Muslim Chinese?
(3) In your opinion, is Ridhuan Tee popular among the Chinese-Muslim community and do you feel that he is articulating your concerns?
Thanks
Helen,
Dr Ridhuan Tee told me how badly he was ridiculed just as he criticizes DAP. According to Dr Ridhuan, fanatical “ultra kiasu” perceives him as betraying Chinese community just to curry favour with the Malays. If a Malay leader defends the Malays, he will be automatically accused of being racist by DAP. BUt a Chinese supporting Malay rights cant be accused as being racist by DAP.
But if one cares to read his comments, he also criticizes the Malay leaders for being sometimes too “insensitive” to Malay folks by extending mind boggling help to chinese while they happily reject and even insult Malay leadership (UMNO).
Dr ridhuan in fact is more known for his Islamic credential. Why his remarks cause unease among Chinese is due to the fact that as he is also a Chinese criticizing chinese or rather DAP. Dr ridhuan once told me that he is upset that Chinese plays along with DAP antic, hoping to earn “goodies” from Najib without having intention to support him.
According to Dr Ridhuan, Najib cant go on “pleasing”the chinese without them responding positively to his govt. At one time, Najib will be forced to stop when Chinese rejects his govt.
And at that time, the goodwill is gone.
re: “Chinese plays along with DAP antic, hoping to earn ‘goodies’ from Najib without having intention to support him.”
Correct
re: “Najib cant go on ‘pleasing’ the chinese without them responding positively to his govt.”
Correct
re: “At one time, Najib will be forced to stop when Chinese rejects his govt.”
Correct
re: “And at that time, the goodwill is gone.”
Correct
Dear Helen,
My answer to your question is as follows but it is from my personal point of view and hopefully it will help.
1. Yes, there are non-Muslim Chinese with not only good but excellent command of BM. However, to do translation work will require not only excellent command of the language but the culture of the origin it came from too. BM or Bahasa Melayu is unique just as Mandarin’s do.
2. I don’t see Zam place more trust in Chinese Muslims. It is just a coincidences of choices that probably makes him decides to employ Chinese Muslims to do translation works with advantages that Chinese Muslims understands Islam as well.
3. I cannot rate the popularity of Ridhuan Tee among the Chinese Muslims but he is well-known through his ‘ceramah’ and also his activities with MACMA and PERKIM. And lastly, I don’t see that he is in any way articulating my concern compared to the happenings surrounding my everyday life and a Malaysian who paid taxes and play my role as a responsible citizen with my one vote.
Hope this explanation helps.
Thanks.
Yes, thanks for the reminder that switching between languages requires immersion in the source culture as well. And I do agree with you about the influence of Islam over the Malay language.
From what little that I know, some Malays are quite embarassed of Ridhuan and considers him a bit too eager to out-Islam the muslims and out-Malay the Malays. In any case, Ridhuan might be a muslim, but we must forgive him for lacking the finese of the Malays, especially in the culture of adat and budi bahasa. Tak sedap lah.
VY DE DAPSTER DOUBLE STANDARDS?
too eager to out-Christian the whites and out-Latin the dead Romans (‘adora’). Lacking the finesse in language — most definitely, in the way they keep throwing the “low class” slur. Tak sedap lah.
In this latest spate of Ridhuan bashing, there have been thousands of attacks on his combination of race-and-religion but it doesn’t strike any of those oppo people lording in their sovereign territories that the mualaf lebih sudu dari kuah criticism they apply to him is ditto in their own born agains.
Helen,
As for Chinese being called “ultra kiasu”, hmmnnnnn.
In all honesty, I must say that vast majority of malays think it is the truth. No offense. I am inclined to think that “there is little or practically no room” for other races should DAP take over Putrajaya.
I am from Kedah. My parents were born and bred in Penang. Majority of my relative live there. Stories of “gerai’ being demolished or prohibition on Malay :stalls” while no restriction Chinese stalls are not “uncommon”.
But I do not blame Chinese should Malays lose political power. As long as malays love to listen to “fitnah”, then they will eventually lose the only bargaining chip” they have:political power. Besides, there are many “carpet beggars” in Malay politics.
Whether BN or PR comes to power, it is still the elites and the well-connected who will reap the benefits. (I’m talking about the situation today.) Look at Penang and LGE’s developer cronies.
However I do allow that Umno did good by the Malays in the early years of the NEP with Felda, Mara and other affirmative action programmes.
I don’t think there is any real fear that BN can lose. So you needn’t worry too much.
“I don’t think there is any real fear that BN can lose. So you
needn’t worry too much.”
Maybe I will just vote Pakatan just to prove to those who fear loss of Malay hegemony that the more things change; the more they remain the same.
PR is in no way ideologically different than BN. Oh sure, on the surface they talk a good talk but there is very little evidence beyond superficial lip service to principles they neither practice in their own political parties or intend to implement once they gain power.
BN is running on its track record that it is unable to defend. Pakatan’s own record benefits from the incompetent interference of an UMNO Federal government, which they gleefully use as propaganda.
I have these visions of gaudy room in Putrajaya, where BN spin-doctors plan their next move while listening to Carly Simon’s “Nobody does it better”.
RT is political pond scum. Most non-malay could care less if he self identifies as Malay. His attacks on their communities are what pisses them (me) off.
He pleads special knowledge of the Chinese community and uses the DAP as a stand in for them. This is funny considering the very same “racists” arguments that the Chinese community use the Malays as proxies, has been directed at the MCA, by PAS all those years back.
He glowingly praises Hitler’s assessment of the Jews and equated the Chinese community with them (Jews). Like I said before, there are better examples of showing of DAP hypocrisy than using this odious hack, which does nothing to further your argument except legitmize his hate speech (not by you but by some others) as some sort of “defence” of the Malay community and Islam.
I’m getting tired with Malaysian politics since 2008. I personally have stopped subscribing to Malaysiakini since 2007. Yah, it’s true that by kicking out BN , we’re just replacing the top pyramid with another bunch of well connected fatcats while the working class Malaysians continue to hammer each other online along the political divide.
In the mean time, I hope there are more people like Pak Mie out there. People like him are the people I would look up to or idolize or learn something from; not LGE, DSAI or HY.
I second you on Pak Mie. I hope he receives many, many blessings.
Sy tiba2 tertarik dengan individu brnama Ridhuan Tee (RT), so saya sj google pasal beliau utk mencari lebih info mengenai cendikiawan ni. Incidentally, I also found this blog out, which i think a good thing….With supper brightest comments ( I mean almost all of them) log in here..suka sy membacanya, sbb kebanyakkan komen bsifat matang dan tidak mncarut, sperti y saya baca di FB…
I try to make my comment here as natural as i could,..Penulisan beliau memang kadang2 extrimist dan berbau racist..(saya tidak tau motive di sebaliknya)…berbalik kepada penulisan beliau btajuk..:kesabaran umat Islam ada batasnya’..beliau ada mengeluarkan statement..
‘Pernahkah kita bersungut ketika perayaan Thaipusam? Seminggu sebelum perayaan, seluruh kawasan sekitar Batu Caves sesak. Kenderaan diparkir sesuka hati. Lautan manusia satu warna berhimpun, seolah-olah tidak ada warna lain lagi di negara ini.’
Memang emosional dan exggerated pulak tu…tersenyum sekejap saya dibuatnya.tapi disisi lain, saya fikir beliau mungkin geram dengan pemimpin Melayu Islam yang diam tidak besuara…Walaupun tersasar, beliau jujur dan tidak hipokrit dlm meluahkan apa y terbuku dijiwa,,,it likes he trying to say, “jika yang betul2 Melayu tak berani bersuara, biarlah saya menjadi galang gantinya”…Saya rasa beliau sedar beliau bakal dikecam dengan hebat setelah mengeluarkan statement berani mati tersebut, tapi itu pengorbanan yang terpaksa dilakukan.
DR RT sangat sedar jiwa Melayu sangat lembut, dan statement di atas cuba menggambarkan bertapa toleratenya orang Melayu Islam.Dalam masa yang sama beliau cuba mengajak orang Melayu agar jadi firm (secara peribadi saya rasa orang cina memang lagi ‘firm’)..Toleration more than that should not go beyond what already given, I am just wondering why and why,,,orang yang tidak pure Melayu lagi berani bersuara menegakkan hak bangsa melayu…ambik saja contoh DR M dan sekarang pula,,,DR RT!!!
Melayu memang bersikap toleran. Negara mana yang lain di dunia akan ada bangsa yang membenarkan bahasa ibunda mereka (bahasa kebangsaan negara) diperlekehkan sebegitu oleh minoriti?
Adakah orang Peranchis, Jerman, Korea, Jepun – misal kata – akan membiarkan sahaja seorang warga kaum minoriti untuk mencerca bahasa Peranchis, bahasa Jerman, bahasa Korea, bahasa Jepun sebagai serba kekurangan?
Lepas itu, kaum minoriti yang mendakwa diri mereka itu French First, German First, Korean First, Japanese First pula bertutur bahasa kebangsaan mereka dengan lintang-pukang.
Itulah tahap toleransi orang Melayu — masih boleh bersabar.
kalau nak lahu level kesabaran orang melayu….faham kan ajelah peribahasa mereka:
“tarik rambut dari tepung, rambut jangan putus, tepung jangan berselerak”.
orang melayu juga terkenal dengan sifat sanggup bersusah payah,
” berakit-rakit ke hulu, berenang-renang ketepian, bersakit-sakit dahulu, bersenang-senang kemudian”.
malangnya, kebanyakan orang melayu bersakit-sakit dalam tempuh yang lama walaupun sepanjang hayat tetapi rambut yang mereka tarik dari tepung masih tak lepas-lepas juga kerana tidak mahu tepung berselerak!
harap ada yang faham maksud saya.