Bukan semua orangramai meyakini perarakan Green Walk adalah merupakan perjuangan isu alam sekitar semata-mata.
Malah ada yang bertanggapan bahawa rapat umum yang kelmarin membanjiri jalanraya di perut ibukota sebenarnya satu bentuk tunjuk pengaruh khususnya oleh pembangkang Cina di samping memprotes terhadap syarikat Lynas.
Gambar-gambar Himpunan Hijau di KL pada hujung minggu:
Usaha pendemo untuk ‘selamatkan Malaysia’
Peserta-peserta Green Walk disambut di Dataran Merdeka pada pagi Isnin oleh sekumpulan wakil-wakil rakyat Pakatan.
Dalam ‘persidangan’ tergempar yang diadakan mereka di ruang awam itu, Himpunan Hijau mengemukakan tiga usul, termasuk tuntutan kepada kerajaan yang mendesak supaya lesen operasi Lynas dibatalkan.
Yang Berhormat-Yang Berhormat Pakatan yang hadir di Dataran telah menyatakan sokongan mereka terhadap usul-usul tersebut yang dibentangkan.
Tweet David Nga Kor Ming (screenshot bawah) berkata: “We are having people’s assembly to save our beloved country”.
Mengikut laporan Malaysiakini, di antara pemimpin-pemimpin yang hadir di Dataran untuk mengiyakan usul-usul Himpunan Hijau ialah:
- Lim Kit Siang — Ahli Parlimen DAP (Ipoh Timor)
- Nga Kor Ming — Ahli Parlimen DAP (Taiping)
- Tan Kok Wai — Ahli Parlimen DAP (Cheras)
- Chong Eng — Ahli Parlimen DAP (Bukit Mertajam)
- Fong Kui Lun — Ahli Parlimen DAP (Bukit Bintang)
- Fong Po Kuan — Ahli Parlimen DAP (Batu Gajah)
- Sim Tong Lim — Ahli Parlimen DAP (Kota Melaka)
- Liew Chin Tong — Ahli Parlimen DAP (Bukit Bendera)
- William Leong — Ahli Parlimen PKR (Selayang)
- Loh Gwo Bourne — Ahli Parlimen PKR (Kelana Jaya)
- Dr Michael Jeyakumar Devaraj — Ahli Parlimen PSM (Sungai Siput)
- Ronnie Liu — Adun DAP (Pandamaran)
- Ng Wei Aik — Adun DAP (Komtar)
- Khoo Poay Tiong — Adun DAP (Ayer Keroh)
Turut berada di perhimpunan ialah Ahli Parlimen DAP Er Teck Hwa (Bakri), Ahli Parlimen DAP Anthony Loke (Rasah) merangkap Ketua Pemuda DAP dan Teresa Kok, setiausaha organisasi DAP.
Tinggal 10 peratus sahaja sokongan Cina bagi MCA
Rapat umum Himpunan Hijau yang berlangsung semalam di ibukota adalah kesudahan perjalanan kaki yang bermula di Kuantan dua minggu lepas.
Loji nadir bumi Lynas terletak di Gebeng, dekat Kuantan.
Kejayaan bersama DAP dan Himpunan Hijau dalam meraih sokongan mantap khalayak umum pasti akan menyebabkan MCA goyah di Pahang.
Kesian MCA
.
Selain Johor, hanya di Pahang sahajalah MCA mampu bertahan dalam pilihanraya umum yang lepas (lihat jadual, bawah).
MCA bertanding 3 kerusi Parlimen, menang 2 dan 8 kerusi DUN, menang 6 di Pahang dalam PRU12. Namun perkembangan terkini di mana masyarakat Cina jelas sekali melangkah erat di bawah panji-panji DAP adalah petanda bagi MCA sejauh manakah parti mereka masih releven.
Suratkhabar milik MCA The Star pun ketara mengikut telunjuk DAP dan rentak evangelis.
Selagi MCA sering diperbodohkan oleh jentera medianya sendiri, apa harapan yang mahu kita letak pada saf kepimpinan parti itu?
Akhbar warta Subang Jaya
Tidak seperti orang berada yang menghuni di Subang Jaya dan Damansara Utama, para “penanam jagung” di kampung yang terletak di daerah-daerah seperti Bilut, Mentakab, Semambu, Damak, Teras dan Cheka bukannya pelanggan The Star.
Dan dengan itu, tidak perlu diendah isu-isu tempatan negeri diperintah BN yang kurang maju berbanding Selangor dan Pulau Pinang.
Profil perwakilan MCA Pahang menunjukkan kebanyakan kerusi-kerusi parti tersebut tertumpu di kawasan luar bandar sahaja – senarai di bawah – termasuk atas bukit di Tanah Rata (Cameron Highlands).
Kerusi DUN MCA N.1 Tanah Rata terletak di kawasan Parlimen P.78 Kuala Krau, Pahang.
N.4 Cheka di P.79 Lipis
N.7 Teras di P.80 Raub
N.10 Damak di P.81 Jerantut
N.13 Semambu di P.82 Indera Mahkota
N.14 Teruntum di P.83 Kuantan
N.30 Mentakab di P.88 Temerloh
N.33 Bilut di P.89 Bentong
‘Lu balik kampung tanam jagung lar’
Gambar di bawah diambil dari blog Jawa Bernam.
Kemelut Lynas akan mempunyai kesan ke atas beberapa kawasan MCA yang berdekatan dengan loji Lynas, iaitu kawasan-kawasan DUN Teruntum dan Semambu. Baca ‘MCA to take action against Fuziah on Lynas‘ (Sinchew, 27 Jun 2012)
MCA pernah ditolak orang Cina rata-rata
Sebelum ini, MCA tersungkur dalam pilihanraya tahun 1969.
Ikuti catatan Tunku Abdul Rahman berkaitan peristiwa darurat yang membawa kepada pengunduran MCA daripada jemaah menteri:
Petikan:
“Semasa Tun Tan Siew Sin membuat kenyataannya bahawa MCA patut berundur dan tidak mengambil bahagian dalam pentadbiran kerajaan, puak pelampau (Ultras) [dalam Umno] menyokongnya secara terang-terangan. Kebanyakan daripada puak pelampau berasa senang hati kerana apa yang mereka hajatkan akan menjadi kenyataan. […]
“dalam pilihan raya baru-baru ini [10 Mei 1969], orang Cina telah beralih arah dan menyokong calon-calon parti lain, dan dengan perkembangan ini juga, maka Dr Lim [Chong Eu] sebagai pemimpin parti Gerakan kini telah menjadi Ketua Menteri Pulau Pinang.
“Kita tidak dapat meramalkan apakah sikap pengundi-pengundi Cina dalam pilihan raya yang akan datang.”
Dipetik memoir Tunku Abdul Rahman
berjudul ’13 Mei Sebelum dan Selepas’ (m/s 129)
“Orang Melayu sahaja yang memerintah”
Tunku Abdul Rahman juga menyampaikan nasihat, “Lebih-lebih lagi kita tidak patut menolak seorang sahabat yang telah berdiri bersama-sama dengan kita semenjak beberapa tahun dan membantu kita mencapai kemerdekaan.”
Beliau menjelaskan bahawa
“di kalangan ahli [Umno] yang setia, terdapat juga beberapa orang yang berkehendakkan supaya Umno atau orang Melayu sahaja yang memerintah negara ini. Cita-cita seperti ini tidak dapat dilaksanakan dalam sebuah negara yang jumlah penduduk kaum lain hampir sama dengan bilangan penduduk kaum Melayu”.
Pada pendapat Tunku, “Cadangan pelampau dan orang yang berdarah muda supaya orang Melayu sahaja memerintah negara ini, pada rancangan jangka panjangnya tidak akan berjaya.”
Amanat Tunku Abdul Rahman
Tambah Tunku lagi, sekiranya langkah “mengadakan satu ikatan yang kekok dengan PAS” diambil, beliau “percaya ikatan itu merupakan satu perkongsian yang lemah”.
Ianya taktik yang “tidak sekali-kali akan dapat menyelesaikan kesulitan yang kita hadapi”, sambung Tunku. “Oleh yang demikian, percubaan untuk menukarkan konsep Umno daripada apa yang telah pun terbukti kejayaannya sehingga hari ini adalah perbuatan mencari kehancuran.”
Bagi Tunku, “Kerjasama daripada tiga buah parti yang besar ini bukan sahaja telah dapat mendatangkan keamanan dan kemakmuran kepada negara” tetapi “Kemenangan bagi sebuah parti untuk memegang kuasa bagi masa yang begitu lama merupakan satu kejayaan yang sangat luar biasa yang belum pernah berlaku dalam mana-mana negara yang mengamalkan sistem demokrasi.”
“Malangnya, kebanyakan orang kita cuma sanggup merayakan kemenangan sahaja, tetapi tidak sanggup menerima kekalahan.”
— Dipetik memoir Tunku Abdul Rahman
berjudul ’13 Mei Sebelum dan Selepas’ (m/s 130-131)
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Helen Ang 
Omongan mereka hanyalah satu… Sisa buangan Lynas mempunyai kadar radioaktif yang tinggi dan boleh mencacatkan genetik manusia… Kah kah kah kah!! Cikgu Sains sesat mana lah ajar diorang ni ya?? Sudah puas pihak Lynas menjelaskan… Tapi masih ada yang pekak dan tuli…
Jika dibandingkan dengan Ladang Babi Mega RM 100 Juta yang dicanang oleh Pakatan Rakyat dengan sisa thorium Lynas, Ladang Babi Mega berupaya menyumbang lebih banyak kematian dan penyakit berbanding sisa thorium ini.
Malah sisa thorium ni akan di bawa pulang semula ke negara asalnya dan ianya takkan dibuang atau di tanam di Malaysia. Jika dibandingkan thorium dan uranium, uranium lebih merbahaya dari thorium.
Berkenaan dengan penyakit bawaan babi pula, sebenarnya banyak jenis penyakit dan parasit bawaan babi ni, antaranya:
· Anthrax
· Ascaris suum
· Botulism
· Brucella suis
· Cryptosporidiosis
· Entamoeba polecki
· Erysipelothrix rhusiopathiae
· Flavobacterium group IIb-like bacteria
· Influenza
· Leptospirosis
· Pasteurella aerogenes
· Pasteruella multocida
· Pigbel
· Rabies
· Salmonella cholerae-suis
· Salmonellosis
· Sarcosporidiosis
· Scabies
· Streptococcus dysgalactiae (group L)
· Streptococcus milleri
· Streptococcus suis type2 (group R)
· Swine vesicular disease
· Taenia solium
· Trichinella spiralis
· Yersinia enterocolitica
· Yersinia pseudotuberculosis
Malah antara pandemic bawaan babi yang pernah menempa rekod jumlah kematian yang banyak ialah…
Spanish Flu (1918)
Hong Kong Flu (1968-1969)
Swine Flu (2009)
Tentu kita masih ingat dengan kes Japanese Encephalitis yang pernah melanda Malaysia pada tahun 1999 yang mana ramai penduduk Ladang Bukit Pelandok, Lukut, Negeri Sembilan. Ianya juga berpunca dari virus nipah bawaan nyamuk culex yang menghisap darah babi yang diternak oleh penduduk di sana. Berapa ramai yang terkorban angkaranya??
Walau banyak mana fakta kita bentangkan isu keselamatan Lynas, pembangkang tetap memekakkan telinga… Inilah dasar pembangkang… Jika projek Lynas diberi kepada kaum cina bukit, sudah tentu mereka takkan bertindak seperti babi yang sedang mengalami sindrom meroyan…
Mereka lebih rela mempertahankan Ladang Babi Mega daripada Lynas… Bagi cina-cina bukit ini, babi adalah makanan wajib bagi mereka… Tiada babi, mereka tak boleh hidup…
Setakat ini tiada lagi rekod kematian dicatatkan oleh pemprosesan thorium ini samada di Perancis atau China… Tapi bilangan kematian akibat wabak bawaan babi di seluruh dunia boleh mencapai jutaan nyawa… Adakah cina-cina bukit ini peduli?? Kita orang melayu pula terpaksa jadi balachi kepada cina-cina bukit ini dengan turut sama berarak membantah Lynas… Kesian orang melayu… Sanggup jadi balachi cina bukit semata-mata mahukan undi mereka…
banyaknya fakta ttg baby…
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Saya suka NST. Kalau STAR akhbar Cina Kristian menjadi corong orang Kristian Hannah Yeoh dan Wong Chun Wai maka NST pula menjadi corong orang Tamil seperti Kalimullah, Munir Majid dan Mahathir dsb.
Kuotasi-kuotasi emas dari Mahathir seperti Saya membuat orang Cina dan India jadi bilionair. Saya juga buat orang Melayu pengemis di negeri sendiri are real gem..hehe.
Although Kalimuhllah is gone 200 million richer, Munir Majid Chairman of every GLCs you can still read from Jaspal Singh. Dagdig dug Singh and the old crepit man Mahathir himself.
The latest NST gem from Mahathir. The Arabs are so stupid it is impossible for them to drive aeroplanes into New York buildings..
That should make the americans wake up. There is this genius mahathir.
Or from the economic writer, now what is interesting EPf is the owner of KFC is selling KFC to buy back KFC through Massive Debt something like that..
Obviously EPF money is being used to make someone rich. Hello where are the Union leaders..?
Hello NST Gems,
Literally speaking, union leaders are also “politician” just like Dapsters and the others. These people don’t have to walk the talk as there are plenty of Machites to do the walk for them.
We should really raise awareness on this new financial method of stealing money from finance institutions and pension funds. Since Nazir Razak used a dummy RM2 company for CIMB to buy Sime Darby, Guthrie and others, this has been the special vehicle of choice which Bank Negara condones. What is Zeti the best banker doing or is she worried about her job?
Now robber barons are using SPV, special purporse vehicle whose special purpose to crudely bypass banking and listing laws.
Using these vehicles directors can claim no involvement while the results of the voting actually end with hundreds of millions in their bank account. Smart eh?
I guess it is time for menopausal woman like Zeti to retire. We need some one with balls to stand up to the Finance Minister.
When will pakatoons ever:
i. Provide proof to whatever they’re saying?
ii. Realize that brains trump balls every time?
iii. Stop bringing balls into everything they talk about? C’mon man, we know you’re starving for sex, but that’s in your own time laa… bloody hell stupid laa lu…
SOG,
aku like sampai pengsan dan bangun dan pengsan balik.
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Tak glamer laaa.. kalu setakat lebam! :P
mak ai ganaihhh…kihkihkih
Sebab loji Lynas diterajui melayu maka ia harus ditentang w/pun tiada fakta saintifik yg buktikan dakyah loji Lynas memudaratkan. Nadir bumi yg diproses loji itu kelak diguna dlm banyak industri hiliran khasnya dlm industri hijau spt cellphone, kereta hybrid etc. Oleh kerana ada loji itu di malaya maka RIM Canada telah buka kilang peranti Blackberry di penang manakala honda jepun bina kilang kereta hybrid di melaka.
Sebenarnya tidak ada satu bisnes atau kilang yang didirikan di sini tidak memberi manfaat kepada bangsa Tionghua. Paling koman, bekalan bahan basah secara borong hampir pasti dibekalkan oleh mereka. Dan itu tidak termasuk lain-lain barang dan perkhidmatan yang mana bangsa Tionghua terus jadi pembekal utama. Apakah Pas dan PKR akan mampu pecahkan monopoli ini?
Time tu kerajaan pakai askar bunuh babi dan sanggup bayar pampasan, sampai ada askar yang mati sebab terjangkit.
Tapi PAS sampai hati kata badwi di arab jaga unta, Badawi di sini jaga babi.
Dahlahtu sungai yang jadi tempat buangan sisa ladang babi diorang tu, bukan setakat kotor, bau pun teruk nak mampos.
Peduli Hijau konon.
Mainan politik DAP, yang ikut tu semua bodoh sombong bagi penerangan tak mau dengar, buat diskusi tak datang, perhimpunan diorang cuma nak test power diorang.
DAP hanya akan menutup mata mengenai hal ini , tenyata Green Walk dan Save Enviroment hanya retorik dan penipuan . Anti Lynas hanyalah agenda DAP
Kata mereka yang berdemo bahawa mereka mahukan kilang LYNAS ditutup kerana mencemarkan alam sekitar dan bla bla lagi. Sebelum ini dah acap kali pihak kerajaan, swasta dan juga pihak luar mengesahkan bahawa kilang Lynas selamat dan tidak memberikan ancaman kepada masyarakat. Malah lokasi kilang Lynas yang terletak di Parlimen Indera Mahkota yang mana merupakan satu kawasan majoriti Melayu dan bukannya kawasan penempatan kaum Cina. Ini jelas memperlihatkan kaum Cina yang beriya iya menentang kilang Lynas. Apa hal Cina Pulau Pinang dan negeri lain datang berdemo desak kilang Lynas ditutup sedangkan majoriti rakyat di Parlimen Indera Mahkota tidak menentang?
Helen,
Isu sejagat biasanya disokong oleh semua pihak tetapi isu yang sempit terutamanya dipenuhi oleh sentimen persamaan ras hanya disokong oleh sesuatu kumpulan atau kaum saja. Makanya dalam isu Lynas, apabila hanya Dap yang hadir, apakah boleh dianggap ianya isu sejagat atau lebih kepada isu sempit yang menjurus kepada sentimen Ke”DAP”an terhadap tenaga kerja Melayu?
cina DAP mengamuk sebab Lynas tak ‘masyuk’ kat depa. as simple as that. ostat pas lagikan kelabu mata pasal duit, habis balak dirompak sampai banjir kilat di baling sana. ini pulak cina DAP. kihkihkih. pi la demo kat pas kedah yang merosakkan ekosistem dan mendajalkan rakyat. hijau konon. hijau my foot.
~Hijau Sesumpah~
Hijau di mata, di hati kuasa
munafik pakaian sehari-hari
pengekor taksub kelabu mata
terjun dalam loji kumbahan – sanggup!
ayuh ikut. Buta huruf, semua bukti diberi
tak mahu percaya. Apa dinasour topi jerami kata
semua percaya. Chin Peng itu pejuang Nasional
percaya tidak? 13 Mei tak ada mancis dan bunga api
percaya tidak. Dalam batu jemala dia tak pernah salah
Melayu paling salah. Dalam batu jemala dia tidak rasis
Melayu rasis. Semua terjadi, semuanya berpunca
dari Melayu. (Dia paling baik, sopan santun.)
tak pernah rasis. Percaya atau tidak?
hijau sesumpah. Sesumpah hijau
sesumpah; sumpah!
27-11-2012
Orang Cina penyokong DAP adalah bangsa paling racist di dunia. Patut ler kaum Mongol di bawah pemerintahan Kublai Khan begitu mudah membunuh dan menghapuskan kaum Cina di China zaman dulu. Orang Mongol tu tentu menyampah dengan sikap racist orang Cina dulu-dulu itu.
Orang Jepun dan orang Korea dari turun temurun pun benci orang Cina. Kenapa yer? Adakah kerana kaum Cina suka bertindak dan bersikap racist? Orang Vietnam pun benci orang Cina, begitu juga orang Filipina, orang Tibet dan orang Russia. Kenapa ramai sangat kaum-kaum di dunia ini membenci orang Cina? Adakah kerana kebanyakan orang Cina berhati racist dan bersikap seperti penyokong gerakan anti-Lynas itu?
pak Hussin, bukankah orang vietnam tu keturunan cina. depa sambut CNY lagi… takkan benci sesama bangsa sendiri.
Tapi Vietnam tak recognize passport China… :P
Berita Hangat – Sebuah badan penyokong kerajaan serta pembangkang (termasuk Melayu, Cina dan India) sedang merancang dan membuat perancangan terperinci dan sistematik untuk mengusulkan supaya parti DAP di mansuhkan kerana ada sebab musabab menjadikannya tidak sah di sisi undang-undang Malaysia, jangan terkejut jika PRU13 kelak tiada calon dari DAP, kerana Parti mereka tidak dibenarkan bertanding langsung.
Tak percaya?
Tunggu esok lusa.
any reference? mau perang ka ini NGO?
Perang pun bagus. Boleh saya ambil kesempatan hapuskan semua pemimpin dan penyokong DAP, tidak kira bangsa.
Xmo perang lah pak Hussin. damai itu indah.
Perang tu hanya nampak hebat selagi anak-bini kita tak kena tempias.
over karpal dead body dulu, baru buleh mansuhkan DAP.
lepas tu anuwar panggil kawan puppet balaci Israel masuk campur, panggil Turki, Taliban, Australia dan semua yang dia boleh panggil, termasuk setan dan dajal untuk pastikan DAP tidak dimansuhkan.
tapi kalau jadi betul2, syok kan? padan muka si dinasour topi jerami.
Trolling je tu… he he
trolling sampai juling pun takpa sementara dok tunggu nak serak benih padi, elok kita grab attention dari netizen ya Tuan Man Sawah Bendang.
p/s: jgn guna racun rumpai ya, nanti demonstrasi hijau datang ke bendang tuan. :)
I guarantee you…right after the General Elections, no matter who’s in power, the demonstrations against Lynas will stop….
bijak si Garrett ni. eagle eyes!
hanya jauhari mengenal manikam
hanya helang mengenal sesumpah
you are right!!! remember kg buah pala? i still remember how DAP people insult/makihamun those Kampung folks for telling DAP to keep they promised … t
Bantahan terhadap Lynas ini berbaur perkauman. Ada orang kata usahawan Cina di Pulau Pinang dan sebelah pantai barat semenanjung kecewa kerana kilang itu ditempatkan di pantai timur. Sama seperti propaganda mengenai roti Gardenia dan roti yang satu lagi itu. Sesiapa yang pernah makan roti Gardenia pasti setuju bahawa roti itu jauh lebih sedap daripada pesaingnya. Takkan pasal makanan pun hendak dipolitikkan dan dijadikan isu perkauman?
Lagi satu…ramai orang tidak faham mengenai keperluan rare earth metals dalam teknologi tinggi. Kalau rakyat Malaysia takut kesan radioaktif, sebenarnya sejenis gas radioaktif lebih mudah memasuki rumah kita dari bawah tanah. Kadar radioaktifnya juga melebihi paras kadar radiokatif sisa buangan kilang seperti di Lynas itu. Inilah akibatnya apabila majoriti rakyat tidak faham sains.
Dunia sebenarnya memerlukan beribu tan bahan rare earth ini. Lagioun badan pemantau antarabangsa sudah sahkan kawalan keselamatan proses di Lynas itu selamat, jadi kenapa hendak disekat satu industri penting di dunia ini. Bodoh betul penyokong pergerakan anti-Lynas ini. Majoriti yang membantah itu orang Cina…takkan orang Cina di Malaysia tiba-tiba sudah jadi kaum yang bodoh? Mungkin mereka ini sudah terkena bahan radioaktif di Ipoh tu dulu?
kalau dah taksub semua akan bodoh, tak kira cina atau apa…
tak payah susah2 mandrem atau tanak nasi kangkang
suruh terjun loji taik pun pasti depa mau terjun…
Helen,
Apapun Himpunan Hijau membuktikan orang Cina yang berdemonstrasi tidaklah dilayan sebagaimana peguam-peguam demonstran di Dataran Tahrir dilayanan oleh kerajaan pasca Mubarak. Jadinya eloklah rasanya kalau mereka terus berhimpun 100 hari dan 100 malam lagi di mana-mana sudut di Bandaraya (dan kalau boleh disertai oleh MP Dap) bagi menampakkan kesungguhan mereka.
Selain itu, Himpunan Hijau yang berlangsung tanpa dihidangkan gas pemedih mata sebagaimana demostran di Dataran Tahrir dihidangkan gas berkenaan, membuktikan tumbangnya Mubarak bukan bermakna penggantinya akan jadi lebih mesra terhadap demonstran-demonstran.
Makanya para demonstran Hijau perlu gunakan kesempatan yang ada untuk teruskan perhimpunan hinggalah berhasil kerana toleransi pemerintah terhadap demonstrasi mungkin berakhir kalau pucuk kepimpinan baru muncul di Putrajaya dan pengganti UBN tidak semestinya akan lebih bertoleransi.
Kalau isu kebebasan akhbar dijadikan contohan, yakni PR jadi lebih tidak tolerans terhadap kebebasan akhbar apabila mendapat sedikit kuasa, makanya kalau PR dapat memimpin Putrajaya, tidakkah PR akan jadi lebih keras — tidak akan bertoleransi terhadap demonstrasi?
Justeru, bukankah ini masa sesuai dan peluang terakhir untuk MP anak beranak tunjukkan kepada orang Cina bahawa mereka juga sanggup terkena panas dan hujan bersama para demonstran untuk 100 hari lagi?
Akhirulkalam, Buat YB Seputeh, jangan pelik kalau selepas ini YB Dapster lelaki dan wanita tak boleh lagi bercampur-gaul dalam siri demonstrasi seterusnya, dan oleh itu gunakanlah sepenuhnya kesempatan terakhir dapat berhimpun bersama ahli Dapster yang lelaki dan yang sebangsa, tanpa dipisahkan oleh tabir besi, sebelum peraturan baru – ala salon rambut di Kelantan – muncul tidak lama lagi.
kihkihkih, marhaeman terbaek. tulis pun macam YB. cayalah. pasni LGE & FLOP kena bwk surat akuan nikah kalu nak check in hotel….
The three huggers that join the Himpunan Hujau are hypocrites, they buy and drive the gas guzzling cars(and get the most of the govt petrol subsidy), eat shark fin soup and animal parts in their medicine, take holidays overseas(and dumping tonnes of CO2), most of all, drive for the Himpunan Hijau and dumping lots of Co2…normal hypocrites like other tree hugger..nothing special about these unlearned crowd.
sama mcm Tian Chua, siang kayuh basikal pi persidangan. malam bawa mercedez… kharrrk ptuiii.
Tian Chua naik basikal pergi Parlimen, Lim Guan Eng tak pernah naik keretapi Bukit Bendera sebab dia gayat…ha ha ha ha
aitt… takkan… dengaq kata naik atas pelangi dia tak gayat….
(aku tengah bersimpuh penuh sopan)
FC,
Mahatma Dap tak sama semangatnya jika dibandingkan dengan Mahatma Ghandi. Ini kerana semangat MG timbul dari dalam apabila melihat bangsa sendiri dijajah secara fizikal.
Mahatma Ghandi sanggup berjalan beratus batu tetapi Mahatma Dap hanya menanti di penghujung perjalanan untuk disarungkan topi nelayan seolah-olah Mahatma Dap telah melengkapkan perjalanan beratus-ratus batu.
Kesimpulan dari perhimpunan ini ialah: para pejalan kaki hanya dapat penat dan lelah sementara para Mahatma Dap pula mendapat keuntungan maksima dalam bentuk “political mileage” dan keuntungan itu bukan untuk dirinya saja malah si anak, isteri dan sepupu-sepapat mereka juga otomatik mendapat manfaatnya.
Dalam kata lain, demi masa depan politik si pewaris, Mahatma Dap sanggup buat apa saja asalkan kesinambungan kepimpinan dalam Dap terus bertali-arus dan tidak terputus di pertengahannya.
Makanya semangat MG akan kekal dijadikan contoh rentasan zaman, sementara semangat Mahatma Dap hanya akan dikenang oleh keluarga dan pewaris terdekat saja.
mahatma khas untuk “A person venerated for spirituality and high-mindedness.” kata kamus. dia ni boleh sampai tahap mahatma… tahap mahatma punya kaki pun belum sampai.
The question to ponder is why the Himpunan Hijau is made of mostly of Chinese crowd and Chinese DAP leaders while non Chinese Pakatan leaders mainly stayed away. This is interesting as the whole circus was started by Fuziah of PKR.
The fact Malays are by far the largest majority in Gebeng. Notice to there was hardly an Indian in the crowd save for PSM MP Dr Jeya Kumar.
You guys might be shocked to know the effectiveness of DAP’s propaganda. My son’s Chinese classmates (he’s in early teens) told my son that Lynas is bad and all of us must oppose it. In fact some of them even post Lynas related materials in the FB.
However, the Himpunan Hijau folks are maintaining an elegant silence of Penang’s solar cell factory or the rampant eco destructions in Penang, Kedah and Selangor.
To me, the DAP’s tactic is to attack BN constantly until the next GE by organizing all kinds of demos and protests. It doesnt matter if it is about Lynas or CSL’s sex life.
Garrett is spot on in saying that these demos will stop after GE13 no matter who wins it.
However, I suspect that DAP and Pakatan are working up their supporters and foreign media saying that they will win it if there are no fraud. And when they lose, they will attempt a Malaysian Spring to hijack power. We could end up like Thailand if we are not careful.
You’re right about “the effectiveness of DAP’s propaganda”.
One of the reasons is it’s carried at a subterranean level — through Facebook which is special interest groups and not open domain like this blog (where everyone can read the comments and anyone can refute), through protected Twitter, through chain-mail and cell groups.
Their propaganda tactics are to sow hatred and dissatisfaction, cast doubt, create unrest and carry out character assassination.
They have so many operatives. Think about it. The BN-ruled states do not have state organs like Selangor Times, Selangorkini, Media Selangorku, Buletin Mutiara etc and yet the Pakatan propaganda is so effective that it is Utusan, The Star and other mainstream media which are labelled by Pakatan supporters as “running dogs”.
DAPsters have never mentioned that Selangor Times (operation costs paid for by the public) is 10 times more lopsided than The Star (a consumer goods one is free to choose not to buy).
Anyone whose writing is critical of the opposition is relentless smeared as I’ve pointed out the examples of DAPsters and evangelistas bringing up my name in other blogs.
Even when I’m not clearly in a group photograph of pro-establishment bloggers, a particularly vicious DAPster has the nerve to ask “Do we see Helen Ang here?”
What do we call such people? King Kongs?
What is shocking is that the DAP’s propaganda has reached to 13 year olds and these kids repeat the anti-Lynas with such emotion but without a clue on what it means. Reminded me of the brain-washed North Korean kids. Scary indeed.
you’re wrong. they are not brainwashed. they have always been like that. these people are descendants of coolies and miners, uncouth and thuggish. not surprised they took to the streets. after all, they owed their origins to street culture.
The chinese engineers in my neighbouring dept have anti lynas watermark on their fb avatars, in offis quiet as mouse unlike the empty can PAS supporters
” However, the Himpunan Hijau folks are maintaining an elegant silence of Penang’s solar cell factory or the rampant eco destructions in Penang, Kedah and Selangor. ”
Yup the factory cell , you even cannot work more than 4 – 6 years there if you in production line .. errrr where is anti Lynas supporters about that factory .
dah masyuukkk joe. apa nak kata lagi, approve lagi banyak solar. biaq pi semua mampus, muntah darah. aku ada member cina keja sana (KHTP) makin kurus ja member tu. kulit dia lagi kesian… muka hensem trus jadi hodoh. himpunan hijau pun tk mai sbb dah masyuukkk…
Kalau bahasa tubuh diterima sebagai satu cerapan yang tepat dan benar makanya apa yang dapat disaksikan dalam foto Mursyidul Am Dap yang sedang berucap adalah perihal seorang ‘orang lama’ yang tidak dapat tidak terdorong untuk mengimbau sejarah 43 tahun dahulu yang bercampur baur antara misteri dan nostalgia iaitu satu sejarah yang terkandung banyak misteri dan ianya termasuklah nostalgia 513.
Kejayaan Dap untuk mendominasikan warna hijau amatlah membanggakan. Tetapi apabila wajah-wajah mullah Pas tidak kelihatan dalam mana-mana gambar berkaitan perhimpunan Hijau telah menimbulkan satu persoalan: apakah ini satu lagi bukti bahawa Dap sememangnya mampu buat apa yang Pas buat?
Kalaulah Pas boleh masuk surau, Dap juga boleh masuk surau. Kalau Pas fasih berbahasa al-Arabia dan Dap boleh baca al-Alarabia. Kalau Pas boleh berhimpun dalam suasana kehijauan dan Dap juga boleh berhimpun dalam lautan hijau. Oleh itu bukankah semua itu bukti jelas bahawa tidak ada satu apapun yang Pas buat tetapi Dap tak boleh?
Oleh itu tidak tersasar untuk mengatakan bahawa apa yang dijangkakan oleh Umum selama ini — Dap mampu gantikan Pas — adalah semakin menjadi kenyataan. Oh ya sebelum saya terlupa, untuk secara rasminya Dap mengambil tempat Pas, mungkin ada cabaran dari pihak tertentu untuk Dapster “potong” itu dan ini terlebih dahulu!
Tetapi, sebelum Dapster demam mendengar perkataan “potong”, pesan saya pada Dapster (lelaki dan wanita) ialah: “don’t worry, be happy”. Makanya buat Dapster semua, gunakanlah alasan ini: bahawasanya, permintaan pihak tertentu tadi itu hanyalah bertaraf sunat saja, iaitu bukan mandatori. Yahoo! Dap>Pas.
Helen,
DAP and PAS may make strange alliance. But both have same ambition: POWER. And both face the same enemy; UMNO. Yes. UMNO that stands against their way.
As such, PAS, with Islam as its weapon continously telling Malays not to trust UMNO at all. meaning do not even try to listen to what UMNO said. PAS brainwashes its fanatical members thinking to hate UMNO so much. It is mind boggling. For these fanatical PAS members, questioning PAS is tantamount to insulting Islam.
As for DAP, it drums into Chinese mind that UMNO is out there to get them. Chinese are told relentlessly that their rights are not respected in Malaysia. Chinese are thought not to accept integration with the Malays.
DAP makes Chinese believe that any Chinese based parties (meaning MCA and Gerakan) that are UMNO’s allies are selling Chinese rights. What DAP wants is power for Lim Dynasty. Chinese interests are mere pawn. Woe betide this nation if Malays, after numerous insults take their anger to the street. It will be another May 13.
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“For these fanatical PAS members, questioning PAS is tantamount to insulting Islam.” For the DAPsters, questioning the DAP evangelist Talibans is tantamount to Christianity bashing. — Helen
Fair and square lah…kalau parti Cina Semalaya dan kembarnya Gerakkan dilihat telah menjual hak kaum mereka untuk undi, makanya kini giliran Parti Agama dan sedara sepusat-sepusingnya iaitu Parti Kufurkan Rakyat untuk meneutralkannya…menjual hak mukmin dan ianya kerana undi jua. 2×5=5×2, Bro
Majoriti pekerja Lynas adalah Melayu. Dan slogan balik kampung tanam jagung tu untuk siapa? Makin Rasis puak DAPster ni.
tak boleh nak tahu apa niat amoi pegang placard tertulis perkataan “balik kampung tanam jaung” melainkan amoi itu rela tampil buat kenyataan.
tetapi dari segi politik, kemungkinan hanya dua iaitu sama ada parti islamik pada kedudukan paling lekeh harus dilantik jadi khalifah,
atau
kalau kurang dari itu, sesuatu yang memalukan umat…apabila umat menang sorak tetapi kampung tergadai…iaitu sesuatu yang bakal menjatuhi kemaluan,
makanya, hendak tak hendak kenalah parti berkenaan bungkus kain baju, bukan berhijrah sebaliknya balik kampung tanam jagung.
apakah, doa amoi tadi akan jadi kenyataan? sama-samalah tunggukan perkembangannya, yea hah!
When and where have we heard the “balik kampung” slogan before? And would top management of LYNAS Australia understand a slogan written in BM?
Something to think about. #Pakatoons and DAPsters are like social cancer.
Menunjukkan kebodohan orang Cina sendiri. Alamak, malunya saya, ayah Cina emak pun Cina kedua-dua pun Muslim sejak moyang, saya juga muslim,tapi kami tetap Cina Malaysia. Malu sungguh ini.
http://mynewshub.my/eng/2012/02/the-truth-about-lynas/
Not only are many Malaysians rude, but they are unintelligent, too. They are driven by emotions, not logic or reason.
Apakah boleh dikatakan bahawa dalam isu Lynas ini Pas nampak kurang emosional tetapi lebih berakal dan berakhlak berbanding Dap yang terlebih emosi tetapi LOW CLASS akal & akhlaknya, makanya Pas dan Dap tidak bergandingan tangan seperti di perhimpunan Bersih 2.0 satu ketika dulu?
OB ko letaklah sepadang bola fakta pun. Kalau dah taksub suruh terjun loji taik pun dorang sanggup. ingat pengikut pas saja taksup, pengikut dap pun 2×5. (hopefully OB could still understand my rojak BM) :)
Agree with you. Tak ada akal, especially those who do not see the threat of Lynas.
If it is so safe, why do they need to ship the raw material here to be processed?
Australia has plenty of land space. Why do they need build the factory outside the country and hence lose creating job opportunities for the locals there?
Who is stupid now? It could be you….
The Lynas scaremongering is done by people who are irresponsible and who have an agenda to paint the the government as environmentally reckless and corrupt. They want to replace the government which their own people.
This is for the benefit of unintelligent people like Ravin (and Helen because she previously admitted she has anti-Lynas sentiments)
Lynas takes advantage of weaknesses in Malaysian law by proposing China standard.
Malaysia’s law on radiological safety and health is AT PAR if not STRICTER THAN any of those used internationally. Lynas has never proposed the used of any China’s standard.
Australian law restricts construction of such plant within 35km radius of residential area.
There is no such Australian law or even other international law on this. The nearest town to Mt. Weld, Laverton just HAPPENS TO BE 35km away. The distance is not a requirement.
Lynas brought in lanthanide concentrate without license.
Lynas DID NOT and HAS NEVER brought in any lanthanide concentrate into Malaysia. The logistical trial run carried out by Lynas used an empty container instead.
Lynas came to Malaysia to avoid strict Australian rules.
Malaysia regulatory requirements IS EQUAL TO or STRICTER THAN that of Australia’s. But, Malaysia is chosen for its conducive and competitive investment climate and optimum resources.
Lynas was chased out from Terengganu due to environmental reasons.
Lynas WAS NEVER chased out of Terengganu. But, Gebeng has the required port facilities, reliable support facilities and technically competent work force.
Lynas is a nuclear plant.
Lynas is NOT a nuclear plant but a simple chemical processing plant operating at atmospheric pressure and ambient temperature. Therefore, there will be no fire or explosion that will cause radioactive dispersion and contamination into the environment.
Lynas is the same as the controversial Asian Rare Earth (ARE) plant.
ARE uses monazite as raw material and Lynas DO NOT use monazite. Lynas’s raw material radioactivity is 37 times LESS than ARE. Lynas residue is 60 time LESS radioactive than ARE.
Environment will be polluted because the plant is located in a swampy land with shallow water table.
Lynas original site is about 2 m above the water table. The site has been prepared by replacing with 1.4 m local fill making the site 3.4 M. above water table. The RSF is built on top (not excavated) of the new site. The base of the temporary storage facility is 0.75 M. thick making the base now 4.15 M ABOVE WATER TABLE. The wall of the storage facility is 9 m high.
Radioactive Exposure Prevention measures taken by Lynas:
– Thorium is not soluble in water and thus can be precipitated and separated out.
– HDPE liner will prevent leaching
– Clay (layer below HDPE) has very low permeability to water and that will further prevent any possible leaching.
– Thorium has bold affinity (stick boldly) for clay, thereby further reducing leaching.
– An under liner leak detection system (ULLDS) monitors and detects any possible leak.
Lynas will cause radioactive rain from the gas released by the stack.
In a worst case scenario, the Radiological Impact Assessment estimated that stack release may only contribute 0.002mSv/year to the public which is 500 TIMES LESS THAN THE MAX. PERMISSABLE DOSE LIMIT set by the AELB (1 mSv/year)
The plant uses a lot of acid that can contaminate the soil.All process areas are built on BUNDED CONTAINMENT CONCRETE structure. Any acid spill will be contained in the bund and WILL NOT come into contact with the ground.
Lynas did not carry out study on internal radiation exposure.
Lynas carries out RIA in accordance to all regulatory requirements and IAEA standards. RIA is an assessment of total dose and risks to critical targets (eg. workers and public) calculated based on all possible exposure pathways. This means that both external and internal exposures were already considered.
Lynas operation will induce cancer and caused deformed newborns.
Statistic from Ministry of Health 2007 shows that cancer prevalence is 720 cases per million. BEFORE LYNAS the, estimated fatal cancer from background radiation at Lynas site is 35 cases per million. With Lynas in operation, based on the 0.002 mSv/y, the estimated fatal cancer is 0.1 case per million.
Radon and Thoron can travel thousands of miles and cause health problems.Radon and Thoron are radioactive gases with VERY SHORT HALF LIVES AND WILL NOT TRAVEL FAR. Once formed, these radionuclides will immediately transform into solid and cannot travel at significant distances from its base.The dose rate at Lynas outside fence:
Radon – 0.00002 mSv/year
Thoron – 0.002 mSv/year
No level of radioactivity is safe.
Radiation is all around us. Some areas in Perak, Selangor and Langkawi have higher than the average Malaysia’s level of radiation but posed no hazardous onsequences. Radiation is also used in the medical field and it is perfectly safe.
OB,
Let me give you an analogy (for the benefit of other readers too) since you declare that I harbour “anti-Lynas sentiments”.
I know how to drive. But I don’t know the mechanics of how a car works.
If you asked me if I think Volvo is a safe car, and safer than most other cars, I would say yes.
So it’s my opinion that Volvo is a safe(r) car. I have an opinion on Volvo.
I also have an opinion on Lynas.
If someone were to further say that since Helen believes Volvo is a safe car, then she should have no reservations in recommending Volvo as a first choice to anyone thinking about buying a car.
Well, no. Even though I may have an opinion on the safety of Volvo, I would not take it upon myself to suggest buying a Volvo because I’ve never claimed that I know cars despite having an opinion on Volvo’s safety features.
Am I supposed to be held at gunpoint and provide valid technical explanations as to why I think Volvo is safe? If I had wanted to be a Volvo salesman at the showroom, then I’d have to make sure I know. Otherwise it’s surely not a crime for a layman to perceive that Volvo is safe.
Now, on Lynas. Yes I do have an opinion and if I were to be asked to answer either Yes or No on the question of whether I want to see the plant operate in Malaysia, my answer would be I’d prefer that Lynas run their business in Australia.
Like the Volvo analogy where I don’t talk cars because it’s just not my scene, I’ve never posted here on the Lynas issue and its environmental arguments for the same reason that I do not wish to study the science of rare earth just as I do not wish to study the mechanics of a car.
Thus far, I’ve avoided posting on Lynas per se except on the political involvement of the DAP riding on its galvanizing effect. We saw yesterday that the PKR politicians – Wan Azizah, Nurul, Fuziah Salleh, William Leong, Tian Chua, Gan Pei Nei, Loh Gwo Burne – rode on the bandwagon too.
In summary, my posting yesterday was on the sociopolitical implications of 15,000 green-clad mostly Chinese descending on the heart of Kuala Lumpur, due to the close link between the event and the DAP.
Helen, I wouldn’t put much into OB’s semua tahu attittude. He thinks and claims to all logical and reason but eventually a sucker for emotion.
If logic and reason had prevailed beyond our personal need, why do you need to run an emotional agenda when humanity is not even in equation or given to space to voice their grievances. Well it is as good as your guess is humanity for whether you drive a line for all logical and reason or the emotion?
What dictates people like OB who can proudly claim that what they are for man made logic and reason materially enhanced or what is emotional for humanity? I like the latter as it does not have self inflicted boundary when you seek humanity. Maybe this can be lesson [YouTube] to feel Malaysian rather than bitching about each other when humanity seeks you attention.
maybe OB enjoy’s this [YouTube]. I wonder where is the logic and reason when emotionally we need to take lessons.
Your car analogy is not perfect. Those who know how to drive should know the basic workings of a car.
I have taken foreign driving tests where instructors insisted on teaching principles of the internal combustion engine, oil and cooling system and many other important car maintenance issues. They went into such detail as teaching about the little known fact that car tires expire and you should always buy freshly manufactured tires wherever possible. Then tests were given to see if the knowledge is sufficient
Since you are ill-informed about driving and the issues pertaining to basic car mechanics and maintenance, you should not be on the road.
I can even give an example about the importance of understanding the basics of car mechanics and maintenance. I have a cousin who didnt know she had to replace the engine oil after several thousand miles of driving. Needless to say, her car broke down in the middle of the road on day and became a hazard to other drivers.
I am using your analogy against you. You want to err on the side if caution because you claim you dont have sufficient knowledge on a certian subject. If that is so, then you shouldn’t be driving because you should err on the side of caution and not endanger you life or the lives of others on the road because of your lack of vehicular knowledge.
My company, as part of its safety policy, insists that drivers and passengers check the condition of the car they choose to ride in. Pilots are obligated to check the maintenance check list and do a walk around to see the plane is in tip top condition. That is the right thing to do.
Lynas corp, the malaysian atomic licensing board and many other recognized authorities like the international atomic energy agency have given thr greenlight for the plant to begin operations. They have been transparent about the feedstock and processing methods.
In summary, i expected an intelligent person such as yourself to make an informed analysis and not shy away from risk. It is only through proper management of risk that humans have built the modern civilisation that many today take for granted.
You say: “Since you are ill-informed about driving and the issues pertaining to basic car mechanics and maintenance, you should not be on the road.”
I say: Men cause more accidents on the road.
I was not trying to insult women drivers.
I am too lazy to verify the stats about accidents based on gender. However, I don’t doubt your claim that men cause most accidents . It may be explained that there are more male drivers on the road relative to female drivers, hence the higher numbers.
It would be more logical to study the percentage of car accidents relative to the population of motorists of each gender.
How all this compares to Lynas, I don’t know. If we use your analogy, women should be building Lynas. But, I don’t see many women queuing to become laborers, contractors, designers or engineers. I think they’d rather be office executives, secretaries, housewives, mistresses, waitresses or bloggers.
You say: Women would “rather be office executives, secretaries, housewives, mistresses, waitresses or bloggers”.
Last missive before I board my flight — You actually read the BS I write?
Sigh. Weren’t you the one who proclaimed that the blogger is liable for all the material that is published in his/her blog under the Evidence Act?
And I agree. Commenters can use pseudonyms and they can post from cybercafes — obscuring their identity as well as they’re untraceable. Bloggers are known entities.
Therefore being liable, I have to read through everything before it sees print here. Even your BS.
I am using a handphone and there are some typos.
OB, who cares about the typo, when the intention is right. Nobody want’s to be told that they are wrong because we are always right. The golden question? Is the intention a motivated for emotional decision we make for ourself or the logic and reason that we need to justify for the rest also for ourself like how you are concerned with your typo rather than the intention? So how?
very good fact there OB , the useless and nobrain anti Lynas cant come with decent comments or fact .. all come out from their mouth is full of lies .. and in the same time many of them using smartphones , electronic household , car battery , compuetr .. if they think rare earth like Lynas factory is a nuclear site , they should boycott using those thing .. we can see how hypocrite they are
all facts worth repeating. thank you, OB!
“no Lynas , no mutant “.. you know what .. the european and US who’s against nuclear , they will opposed everything about nuclear including its technology …
in malaysia they against Lynas and im sure 100% of them proud user of computer and smartphones LOL , im very sure 98% of them thinking Lynas is like a nuclear site , what a low life laa
While driving to work today, a thought occured to me. This bunch of Himpunan/DAP activists initially started their demo at Gebeng and Kuantan. Now it is in mid town KL. Is this a rehearsal for a DAP’s street protests ala Arab Spring when Pakatan gets defeated in GE13? To me the “Balik Kampung, Tanam Jagung” banner reminds me eerily of the May 13 demo led by DAP. Is DAP planning for [street marches] post GE13?
these Chinese are the descendants of coolies and miners. so what did you expect ? they are uncouth to begin with. that is why they are easily influenced by hacks and spinners, not to mention the typical snake oil salesmen/saleswomen.
PPP,
then what make ravin? balaci for the lowest rank to them ka?
I.D.A,
Ravin is what I call A Class Balaci.
OB, I do apologize, but you mean nothing to me besides how well you have done for yourself besides befitting you. In the same extend I am also on the same bracket but I don’t brag about it. What is it friend?, you think you know better, well !!! what how you done better than bitch around about it minus the Porsche that you can drive in Middle East.
Malaysians worries is a concern for all of us irrespective of the origin not whether we are better then our fellow Malaysians. I am sure you are here to show how great you are but what steps you have taken to ensure Malaysians have a level playground to contribute for the enhancement of the nation as a Malaysian.
Anti-Lynas demonstrators who came to Sydney recently on the pretext of demonstrating against the evil of Lynas were found to own Lynas shares. What a joke! While those suckers back home are sweating at Padang Merdeka renouncing Lynas, the group that came here enjoyed the views at Sydney Opera House, shopping at Myer etc. whilst chanting ‘Stop Lynas.’ Now, if that is not idiocy in the first degree, I don’t know what is.
Had Malaysians listened to Lim Kit Siang, there would not have been any Petronas nor PLUS nor KLIA nor Putrajaya. So, to see him against Lynas is no surprise. A couple of years from now when Lynas is successful, you’ll see him and his son wrestling for the credit Lynas contributes to the GDP.
The demonstrations against Lynas have nothing to do with Lynas or rare earth per se but everything to do with race and politics. From my perspective, the best thing that came out of this Lynas debacle is that, it shows to the world what a bunch of liars the oppositions are and such stupid disciples they have in their rosters.
Himpunan Lynas is to put pressure to MCA Pahang as only Pahang is left to be concurred by DAP. Once Pahang is down, the Chinese will say bye bye to MCA and says hai to Chinese Malaysia. Kesian , orang Melayu kena tipu.
*conquered