Pot calling the kettle “metallic black”

January 29, 2013 at 10:42 pm 32 comments

I hope that all of you who care about my blog will take the trouble and have the patience to read through this posting.

(You can choose to give the middle part a miss. I’ll mark ‘Starts‘ and ‘Ends’ Citations in bold red. These will flag you the fine print which less dedicated readers can skip.)

However, it is still necessary for me to set out the chronology to counter a pro-Guan Eng blog that has misrepresented events to cast a negative light on my reputation.

Easy to smash, difficult to construct

It’s a breeze to throw one-liners that demean or defame an opponent but look at the effort it requires for the victim to try to clear the air.

There is this commenter Hua Yong, who in my opinion, is akin to his ‘HY’ initials namesake Hannah Yeoh. (But at least he uses a standard nick unlike the Anons at the said pro-Guan Eng blog.)



Copypasted below is the comment Hua Yong made about me in another blog:
  • HuaYong 9:14 am, January 29, 2013
    unlike bn n dap, dissent voice are allowed in pkr n pas, until and unless some go past the sensible level. pkr are multiracial and pas are democratic, not in name only.

  • KTemoc
    9:26 am, January 29, 2013
    wakakaka, PKR and PAS need people like you
  • HuaYong 10:01 am, January 29, 2013
    what a siamese twins n typical bn apologist. when i rebut a stupid statement from a dap lawyer “The girl can hardly speak a word of Malay or English,” all helen can do is to call me a penyokong dap, while u can only wakaka.


The following are Hua Yong’s accusations against me:

(1) He calls me a “typical bn apologist”.

(2) He also claims “when [he] rebut a stupid statement from a dap lawyer “The girl can hardly speak a word of Malay or English,” all helen can do is to call [him] a penyokong dap”.

He ‘rebutted’ by claiming oh well, but at least “she will have no problem to buy nasi kandar”.

I will address Hua Yong’s allegations step by step.

The DAP lawyer concerned is Johor deputy chairman Norman Fernandez and his statement was on the girl who stepped on Najib’s photo, saying:

“Ong Sing Yee hardly can speak a word of Malay or English. Apparently a statement was taken where she was being held at the Johor Police Headquarters, a police interpreter then translated her statement and she was asked signed her statement which she did.”

My 8 Sept 2012 posting on the picture-stepping, here.



Discussion on the role of BM

Below is a copypaste of the conversation thread between Hua Yong and myself relevant to his complaint. It took place on this posting ‘BM: bahasa Melayu atau bahasa Malaysia?‘ (18 Oct 2012)

I had made a comment:
“The young generation – as shown in the girl who stepped on Najib’s photo and the man who received a flying tackle at the Shah Alam i-City KFC outlet as well as other Chinese individuals in trouble who have turned to DAP interpreters b’cos they cannot answer reporters’ questions – do not indicate that they’re okay in BM.
“However, I do concur that vernacular school should not be scapegoated.”
And below is our subsequent exchange:
51. HuaYong  |  Oktober 19, 2012 at 12:30 pm
“do not indicate that they’re okay in BM.”
it depend on how we evaluate ‘okay’, especially in certain situation whenever what we say have an seriuos impact to outcome. i notice one of my japanese colleague speak decent english, but he choose to speak japanese and insist on translator whenever the state of affair require reasonably good communication capability, for instance during negotiation. i think the same strategy and mentality apply to many so called “not okay in bm” fella.
  • 52. Helen Ang  |  Oktober 19, 2012 at 12:38 pm
As a general statement, your reasoning is fair enough.
But let’s take the case of the girl who stepped on Najib’s photo. Sin Yee was driven to the Dang Wangi station from her home state Johor. Her press conference was held in KL — facilitated by the DAP people and using the DAP translator (i.e. the language scenario you describe).
Nonetheless earlier when she was in Johor, the first lawyer she sought help from (i.e. Norman Fernandez, the DAP Johor deputy chairman) revealed that the girl can barely speak a word of BM or English.
  • 54. HuaYong  |  Oktober 19, 2012 at 1:06 pm
i am aware of that and this is exactly my point, she will have no problem to buy nasi kandar and attend a driving license test, but not when she is facing a lawyer, dont u notice many indian doctor able to speak various chinese dialect particularly term that relevant to diagnosis? i think norman a blur blur one.
  • 55. Helen Ang  |  Oktober 19, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Norman talked to the girl. Did you?
  • 56. HuaYong  |  Oktober 19, 2012 at 2:36 pm
    have you been paying any attention to what i wrote earlier, “i think the same strategy and mentality apply to many so called “not okay in bm” fella.”?
    how many chinese malaysian girls age above 18 you meet that “hardly can speak a word of Malay or English”? i don’t.
    and what make you think whatever norman write or say constitute fact and not an opinion?
  • 57. Helen Ang  |  Oktober 19, 2012 at 2:41 pm
    In the case of Sin Yee, Norman’s opinion is more valid than yours.
    As for the general language competency of Chinese, we haven’t got good empirical data. However, let’s open it to the forum for anecdotal evidence.
    What do other readers say about their personal experiences in connection with Najib encouraging Malaysians to speak the national language at least competently?
  • 58. OverseasBumi  |  Oktober 19, 2012 at 4:46 pm
    Do we want a society where we are only proficient enough to buy groceries from the local market?
    My korean was good enough to buy groceries and direct a taxi driver. But would I say I could integrate into Korean society– no way! Heck my german is also that good.
    I think we should aim to become a society that can share ideas and feelings and come to a mutual agreement… That requires a higher level of language proficiency.
    Helen did you scare off Mekyam?
  • 59. Helen Ang  |  Oktober 19, 2012 at 4:48 pm
    No lah, why should I scare her off? However Joe is MIA.
  • 60. HuaYong  |  Oktober 19, 2012 at 6:01 pm
    “I think we should aim to become a society that can share ideas and feelings and come to a mutual agreement… That requires a higher level of language proficiency”
    no disagreement, i think we were almost there once, at least in term of language and number, what cause the opposite direction? today i am not very sure, assimilation is not the mainstream and prevalent trend in many countries, while integration demand certain prerequisite which apparently we are lacking. perhaps we could still achieve something via a common objective, like what switzerland did, i thought we discussed about this many times?
The conversation ended at #60
***   ***   ***
Hua Yong returns later the next morning at #96. HuaYong  |  Oktober 20, 2012 at 8:14 am
“statistik terbaru yg aku baca 96% cina pilih srjkc, ini juga membayangkan […]
Which got replies from #97. I hate n’sync  |  Oktober 20, 2012 at 10:12 am, and #98. I hate n’sync  |  Oktober 20, 2012 at 10:32.
Hua Yong resumes at #101. HuaYong  |  Oktober 20, 2012 at 8:44 am (replying to ‘SK’)
According to history, Malays began to migrate to Malaysia in noticeable numbers only about 700 years ago. […]
and at #121. HuaYong  |  Oktober 24, 2012 at 7:03 pm (replying to Secangkir Kopi, probably the same person as SK)
aku berpendapat puncak utama ramai malaysian tidak fasih bahasa kebangsaan kerana kurangnya motivasi dan insentif, […]

Copypasted above is Hua Yong’s entire participation in my posting on the Malay language, which touched obliquely on Norman the DAP lawyer in the reader discussion, and drew 122 comments.

(I did not have any exchanges with Hua Yong in his second half conversations with I hate n’sync and Secangkir Kopi.)


Hua Yong’s off-tangent accusation

To repeat: Hua Yong’s accusation against me:

“when i rebut a stupid statement from a dap lawyer “The girl can hardly speak a word of Malay or English,” all helen can do is to call me a penyokong dap”.

Did I, anywhere in the whole exchange reproduced above, respond to his statement on Norman by calling Hua Yong “a penyokong DAP”? You can look again at the screenshot (below).


Note: The screenshot above is a composite as the page was too large to be captured in a single frame by the screengrab programme that I use.

Hua Yong’s allegation out of context

I admit that I did once touch on Hua Yong’s DAP affiliation (I called him “the DAP apologist” and he has returned the favour by calling me “typical BN apologist”).

And I was aware then and concur even now that such a label is not a persuasive form of rebuttal. Hence my apology to him in May 2012.

When I called him “the DAP apologist”, it’s not okay (he grumbles about it till today “when i rebut a stupid statement from a dap lawyer “The girl can hardly speak a word of Malay or English,” all helen can do is to call me a penyokong dap”).

When he calls me the same albeit in the opposite camp, then how?

However the real context of my saying the words for which Hua Yong still begrudges me was at a different time and in a different posting than he stated.

And it was NOT at all a question of my telling him off for “being a DAP supporter” vis-a-vis Norman as he is today declaring in a pro-Guan Eng blog.

The actual conversation – about whether young Chinese are conversant in our national language – took place on 19 Oct 2012.

Two separate incidents five months apart

My off-the-cuff remarks that Hua Yong complains about (i.e. connecting him with DAP) was not even addressed directly to him (which he claims; Hua Yong’s version: “when i rebut a stupid statement from a dap lawyer “The girl can hardly speak a word of Malay or English,” all helen can do is to call me a penyokong dap”) – but as my aside to Ahmad Ibrahim which you can read screenshot below.

Hence Hua Yong’s allegation that the ‘DAP-Hua Yong linking’ was my response to his comments about the DAP lawyer is patently inaccurate.

The “DAP apologist” label was given in May 2012 and the discussion with regard to Norman’s remark that the girl is unable to speak BN in Oct 2012. There is a time gap of five months between both episodes.



It occurred in a posting dated 7 May 2012 which garnered a total of 73 reader comments.
  • 22. HuaYong  |  Mei 8, 2012 at 10:58 am
Helen, since I am a ‘loyal’ reader of your blog for quite sometimes, I more or less be acquainted with your thought process, thus no surprise with your writing except the final part on multiculturalism […]
  • 23. Helen Ang  |  Mei 8, 2012 at 11:54 am
Germany & France are not homogeneous in terms of culture & religion. However, their immigrants bolehlah bertutur dalam bahasa kebangsaan […]
  • 24. Ahmad Ibrahim  |  Mei 8, 2012 at 12:28 pm
and may I add something. […]
  • 25. HuaYong  |  Mei 8, 2012 at 1:35 pm
AI, my point precisely, and that is why i said we shouldnt conflate apple with orange..
  • 26. Helen Ang  |  Mei 8, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Hua Yong/AI,
re: the assimilation issue. There are cracks hence Sarkozy’s statement & Le Pen’s popularity. The burqa ban in France. The riots in the banlieue.
  • 27. lalaland  |  Mei 8, 2012 at 11:17 pm
example, my buddy quoted:
To become Australian, one must speak English and act like Australian. Same thing applies, speak bahasa Malaysia and act like one…….moron!
  • 28. HuaYong  |  Mei 8, 2012 at 11:57 pm
hmmm … no wonder you choose the handle lalaland, is that the unique ability for lalang opps i mean those from lalaland to write like idiot even when he have no clue what the discussion is about?
29. OverseasBumi  |  Mei 9, 2012 at 3:03 am comes in next, and 30. HuaYong  |  Mei 9, 2012 at 8:52 am replies him to which I appended a short note at the end of Hua Yong’s comment saying, “唐人 then? Like I asked earlier, M’sian Chinese or Chinese M’sian or simply Chinese? — Helen
31. OverseasBumi  |  Mei 9, 2012 at 11:21 am replies […] and further adds:
  • 32. OverseasBumi  |  Mei 9, 2012 at 11:23 am

    M’sian Chinese or Chinese M’sian — one is obviously a racial definition, the other a narrower definition of nationality.

33. HuaYong  |  Mei 9, 2012 at 12:02 pm: “helen, a short one. […]”  34. HuaYong  |  Mei 9, 2012 at 12:33 pm: “ob, u r a funny guy. […]”

The guy’s Malaysian First

His next comment is a reply to me:

  •  35. HuaYong  |  Mei 9, 2012 at 1:10 pm
y u ask the obvious? malaysian fiiiiiirst la.
God save us. — Helen
Hua Yong’s answer “malaysian fiiiiiirst la” is a reply to my question: Are we (1) M’sian Chinese or (2) Chinese M’sian or (3) simply Chinese?
gratitude  |  Mei 10, 2012 at 12:22 am comes in, followed by,
  • 37. OverseasBumi  |  Mei 10, 2012 at 4:07 am
HY, expand your horizons, and you will realize that nothing is ever black or white. […]

Discussion turns to DAP

38. HuaYong  |  Mei 10, 2012 at 9:54 am
Dear OB, thanks.
“A study was made that shows toddlers as young as 3 can recognize and discriminate based on skin color.”
I guess the correct statement is “can recognize the different”, not “discriminate”. […]
  • 39. Helen Ang  |  Mei 10, 2012 at 10:39 am
Hua Yong,
Of course lah “they [don’t] represent the whole DAP”. Neither did the Nazis represent the whole Germany or the Taliban the whole Afghanistan.
The danger is when the loud, abusive & aggressive but powerful & influential minority hijacks the silent majority and sets the tone & direction. […]
  • 40. kama1954  |  Mei 8, 2012 at 11:11 am
nice piece of work as always, helen. kudos.
Comments #41 to to #44 are exchanges between Hua Yong and Ahmad Ibrahim.

Exchange moves on to Dapsters and Christians

  • 49. HuaYong  |  Mei 9, 2012 at 1:36 pm
    Helen put it aptly : ‘thanks for articulating my thoughts!’ . Hope to read more from you. Thanks AI.
  • 50. Helen Ang  |  Mei 9, 2012 at 1:48 pm
    It seems to me that with some M’sian Chinese youngsters, their cultural souls are today half in HK/Taiwan & lately a quarter in Korea. It’s the wonder of the Net, file sharing & mp3 (what number now?) downloads & other tech gizmos the teenagers are so savvy at. DAP’s M’sian Fi1111irst is fascism. They are like Mao Zedong’s Red Guards fanning across the countryside & beating recalcitrants into compliance and also attempting to beat the Chineseness (c.f. communist ‘Cultural’ Revolution) out of everyone.
  • 51. HuaYong  |  Mei 9, 2012 at 2:59 pm
    Helen, my take is different. Now is the peak of the so called Anglophile because there were 50% Chinese that attend national school during the 70’ and 80’, and today many of them happen to be the leader and chief in almost every sector including political parties, but I suspect the prime is over with the change of balance in global power that slowly move to the East. The soaring enroll into VS and change of Singaporean sentiment toward the Communist China is to me a good gauge.My view is that in the short term, you are probably right but in the medium and long term, the battlefield is between the inclusive and religious Malay. The non Malay can only stand aside and grumble, if in any case our vote numbers still large enough as counted, we might pick a relative inclusive one, provided they are capable and not the excessive corrupted one like what we are having now.PS / did you watch China series ‘步步心惊’ and ‘甄嬛传’? Many friends of mine that do not bother anything China (perceive as not trendy) now become a fan of China made series.
    I’m more of a reader (print-inclined) than a viewer (broadcast) & have short attention span for the latter media. Actually I agree with both your prognosis (Para 1 & 2) above. Only I would add the DAPsters are Christian Taliban. Hence they would be closer to the more fundamentalist Muslims rather than the inclusive Malays. Remember, DAP attacks Umno (United MALAY Nat.Org.) all the time & they never stop attacking Muhyiddin’s Malayness. — Helen



Here is the part where I connected Hua Yong with DAP

  • 54. Ahmad Ibrahim  |  Mei 10, 2012 at 10:03 am

Power is not moving East as you mentioned. Power is “assimilating” the East. […]

Wow! Tabik, sincerely. You’re good medicine for the DAP apologist Hua Yong. — Helen


My connecting Hua Yong to DAP as party apologist was NOT “when [Hua Yong] rebut a stupid statement from a dap lawyer “The girl can hardly speak a word of Malay or English,” all helen can do is to call me a penyokong dap”.

To reiterate, the DAP lawyer Norman doesn’t even come into this posting where I called Hua Yong a DAP apologist.

And nor can the context be construed that I had dismissed Hua Yong with a piece of simplistic name-calling because I was unable to rebut whatever it was that Hua Yong said (even though it is the picture that he tries to paint in the other blog).

As you can see detailed above, both sets of conversations (in May and in October respectively) actually contained a healthy flow of to-and-fro comments replying each other.

Therefore, Hua Yong’s portrayal: “when i [Hua Yong] rebut a stupid statement from a dap lawyer “The girl can hardly speak a word of Malay or English,” all helen can do is to call me a penyokong dap is not only unfair but also untrue.

Badmouthing blogger in other blogs

The above narrative recalls the grudge that Hua Yong has apparently harboured the last nine months, and thus his proceeding to badmouth me in that other blog and elsewhere in DAP sovereign territory.

Admittedly I had retorted that Hua Yong is “the DAP apologist” in a short note appended to Ahmad Ibrahim’s comment.

However the strikethrough across the words – as you can see in the screenshot below – is because I had already retracted and I gave my apology and reason as “momentary pique due to annoyance”.


I had apologized to Hua Yong on 10 May at 11.26 am for referring to him as “the DAP apologist”.

I had written “sorry” and said “I withdraw the label”, hence did the strikethrough across the phrase.

Reminder: My offense was part of the banter tagged to end of another regular reader’s comment, and not in any kind of one-on-one dispute as Hua Yong is now claiming, in order to portray me as a blogger who reacts like “all helen can do is to call me a penyokong dap”.

Hua Yong responded to my retraction 25 minutes later. He appeared to have accepted my apology because he says: “no worry, like Daim said, Chinese is emotional and of course this include you n me.”


Now 6½ months later …

Hua Yong presently makes his allegation below in a staunchly pro-DAP blog,

“when i rebut a stupid statement from a dap lawyer “The girl [who stepped on Najib’s pix] can hardly speak a word of Malay or English,” all helen can do is to call me a penyokong dap,”

Which is not true at all as a faithful reproduction of the trackback (above) reveals.


(1) I did NOT dismiss Hua Yong offhand when he brought up DAP lawyer Norman Fernandez with my allegedly saying he (Hua Yong) is a DAP supporter.

Instead I had replied, “As a general statement, your reasoning is fair enough“, i.e. that under the circumstances of police questioning, the girl might have been too nervous to speak BM and would have been more comfortable speaking Mandarin and using a translator.

I had also acknowledged that “we haven’t got good empirical data” (as to the general BM competency among the Chinese) but I was willing to “let’s open it to the forum for anecdotal evidence”.

(2) I did NOT call Hua Yong “a penyokong dap” on the occasion when he claims he rebutted a “stupid statement” from Norman Fernandez who is the Johor DAP deputy chairman.

Hua Yong is misleading readers at the other blog into thinking that I simply throw non-sequiturs on account of Norman’s political position. His implication is that I gave a knee-jerk reaction just because I consider him a DAP supporter  — which is not true and furthermore, the incident he described DID NOT EVEN happen.

The truth of the matter is that I had called Hua Yong “the DAP apologist” a good five months (earlier) before the Norman thread (Oct 2012) emerged and it was in relation to an expanded discussion on Dapsters and evangelists. Norman had nothing at all to do with the May 2012 thread.

(3) Hua Yong alleges that “all helen can do is to call me a penyokong dap.”

Again this is untrue and misleading as regular readers would be aware of the effort I take to reply comments that are not abusive or trolling.

Samples of my reply to readers

Take a look, for example, at the posting ‘Secular or non-secular: How Art Harun got it wrong on the Reid Commission‘.

It is a scholarly and careful posting by my guest writer but nonetheless as the blog host, I had to field the queries thrown in the Comment section (total 42 reader comments).

December 3, 2012 at 9:25 pm in the Comments section

The sequence as follows:

Comment #16: Secular Malaysia (332 words)

Comment #17: Helen (775 words)

Comment #18: Secular Malaysia (645 words)

Comment #19: Helen (1,919 words)

1,919 words (gasp!) in reply to a reader’s comment. I’m nonplussed myself.

It’s only now that I’ve done a  word count. Before this, I hadn’t realised that my ‘record’ reply in the Comment section was close to 2,000 words. It certainly cost me a lot of time (and patience) to walk the reader through.

It was a purely academic discussion without any quarrel or rancour, and the subject matter complex, i.e. about the Reid Report prepared as the framework of our Federal Constitution and the principles and practice of secularism.

My reply to the reader – which came to almost 2,000 words – is worth reading (because I myself had to read up a lot on the topic) if you’re interested in the planks of secularism.

My exchange with ‘Secular Malaysia’ shows the amount of trouble I take to respond helpfully and with decorum, that is if the reader does not coming charging in like a Dapster red bull hell-bent on goring anyone who refuses to scrape the ground their DAP 2.0 gods walk on.

“BN apologist” tit-for-tat

Here’s the sad reality of Malaysian cyberspace.

Mine is a blog that – as one example – took the trouble of uploading Justice Lau Bee Lan’s written judgment on the Allah case. She wrote 57 pages and there were additionally 2 more back pages listing all the lawyers’ names.

So I had to scan altogether 59 pages, then run them through a text recognition software, page by page, and then tidy up the problematic line spacing paragraph by paragraph.

THIS. IS. THE. amount of work that goes into preparing material for my blog.

As for my other contents, if you’re a regular reader, you may remember the data I’ve collected and collated — figures, tables, graphs, bar charts, pie charts, links to reference material.

Yet under the law of the Malaysian jungle, Dapsters – senior and junior – simply sail in and shoot off one-liners which go like “this is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read”, and making other degrading put-downs without himself contributing one iota of information or of fact.

e.g. Resident troll Sshsn: “eh you stupid cunt….its a bird…dont use a bird to divide malaysians….fuck off with you and your divisive agenda….”

It’s the SOP of the self-proclaimed ‘Beyond Race’ heroes to accuse those who reject their Kool-Aid as guilty of “dividing the rakyat” and being dyed-in-wool “racists”, “bigots”, “evil” and “fugly” too.

Accuse, accuse, accuse, that’s all they do.

And putting us to the trouble of rebuttal. For instance, to write this piece, I’ve had to dig up the old threads, make so many screenshots, copypaste-copypaste-copypaste and put the whole structure all in order.

It’s a time-consuming process to defend my good name.

Wasn’t it comparatively so very easy for Hua Yong to mouth off? Compare what it cost him and what it’s costing me.

Think of all the damage that the Dapsters have wrought.

Blog admins complicit in this culture

If these extremely pro-DAP blog admins were to exercise a wee bit of responsibility over the public input they allow on their blogs, things would not have come to such a pass (necessitating this response from me).

What I’m saying is also related to whether the moderators in fora like Lowyat and Malaysiakini and elsewhere are doing their job, what with the kind of comments they allow to pass.

Regarding my own turf, helenang.wordpress.com gets flak because some anti-Chinese sentiments from readers – described as “racist” by certain opposition supporters – have appeared. These anti-Chinese sentiments may not be palatable to some but it is not illegal for other races to dislike the Chinese, is it?

Those who take umbrage at some of the fringe (the bulk of the commenters are not) anti-Chinese comments finding expression here are themselves acting as if they are pristine and faultless while the other side is dirty and one hundred percent to be blamed.

Why ‘they’ (Anons included) are free to say whatever they like over there

Our realpolitik is that Umno is closely linked with Malay and DAP with the Chinese.

The pro-DAP blogs have given free rein, and some of the blog admins even encouraging or sparking off the slights and slurs, and oftentimes outright slander, against me to be published.

At my own end, I’m personally careful to sift any potential defamation here. This comes from my long professional training as a journalist.

Newspapers can get sued for millions and the last thing a reporter wants (or his editor would permit) is for the paper to lose millions in libel settlement — which would also mean that the year-end bonus and ex-gratia to all staff is in turn affected.

And I’m aware that Guan Eng and his DAP colleagues (Ngeh-Nga in Perak, Teresa in Selangor) are litigation happy. The DAP sec-gen’s infamous: “You see what I do to you” is still ringing in our ears. Hence I can safely vouch that my blog is very careful not to defame or slander people.

The same care that I exercise – or else any one of the DAP “sue, sue, sue” fellas will surely haul me to court – is however not exercised in the websites and blogs that allow slander against me to persist.

But then hey, who am I a small fry to complain?

Kalau sehari tak fitnah, Dapster batal sembahyang

They have no qualms either about slandering the Prime Minister’s wife with the worst possible accusations, or slandering the PM himself, and even slandering the Sultans, the state mufti … in short, no one is safe from the incessant opposition fitnah.

The oppo supporters will say that the pro-establishment side is just as bad. However, in my frank opinion, Pakatan is much worse.

As a past columnist, of course I’ve written critically about Umno and BN before. And I can tell you that they never went berserk or ever attacked me like the DAP leaders and their supporters do.

To date, MCA has not retaliated over this blog’s Dinosaur leitmotif.

Your views may differ from mine but I will not smear your name just on account of our differences of political opinion.

However, the Dapsters have no hesitation in harassing as well as smearing my name just because my views do not align with theirs.

And they act as if it is their God-given right for all of their vicious abuses hurled at me to be published instantaneously, as soon as they hit the ‘Enter’/’Send’ button.

Root of anti-Chinese sentiments

The more objective and neutral readers can see all of this. They may be Malays. They may be Indians. If they have a negative perception of the DAP and the Chinese, it is in part – if not a large part – a result of the actions of the party leaders and the Dapsters themselves.

Nonetheless, ‘siapa yang makan cili dia rasa pedas’ is adamant to run down the street shouting curses and screaming “Racism!” at the Malays, the Muslims and particularly at the mamaks.

With regard to the “racist” name-calling by the Firsters, let me ask them to reflect on this:

  • Umno holds the Menteri Besar chair in 8 out of 13 states. The party has appointed Zambry Abdul Kadir as MB of Perak. That’s 1/8th share of the MB pie given to a politician of Indian ancestry.
  • DAP has 30 CEC seats, and needless to say, the party supreme council chair is far less prestigious than the Menteri Besar chair in a major state. In what year do you think a mamak – no offence intended, the word to me is a neutral description – will be elected or appointed to the DAP CEC … in 2310?

Racism? The pot calling the kettle “hitam metalik”.

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32 Comments Add your own

  • 1. forrrestcat  |  January 29, 2013 at 11:01 pm

    Yup, i saw HuaYong pseudoname in other anti BN blogs, like Haris blog. He did not hide his pro DAP sentiments then, haha. Unless another DAPster doppleganger took his name to sabo him like what they did to Calvin Sankaran, but I doubt it.

    HuaYong crowd is with the DAPster, and hopefully he is happier with his flock.

  • 2. kiasu  |  January 29, 2013 at 11:39 pm

    Hua Yong ini bagi saya adalah gambaran seorang penyokong DAP yang ingin dilihat kononnya bersikap terbuka, bijak dan tidak partisan. Namun, mungkin disebabkan beliau berbangsa cina, dan DAP menganggap cina adalah mangsa penindasan di Tanah Melayu ini, beliau secara tidak sedar menjadi prejudis bila memberi komen.

    Orang yang prejudis seperti Hua Yong ini biasanya merasai pihak mereka saja yang tahu dan betul segalanya, pihak lagi satu tidak tahu, kurang pandai atau selalu salah. Dia akan bersikap “in a state of denial” apabila sesuatu perkara itu jelas menunjukkan keburukan, kelemahan atau kesalahan pihak yang dia puja, DAP misalnya.

    Apabila dia “deny” kebenaran atau fakta yang ditunjukkan, maka mereka akan tukar ke mode menyerang peribadi penulis atau pengomen, melabel dan memperlekeh sesiapa yang tidak sehaluan. Dan apabila cornered, mulalah dia menuduh yang bukan2. Mereka lupa bahawa apa yg mereka tulis dahulu orang akan ingat atau cari.

    Jenis macam Hua Yong ini, asalnya prejudis dan bodoh sombong, akhirnya hanyut menjadi rasis dan hipokrit. Orang yang rasis hipokrit ini biasanya akan menjerit2 bahawa bangsa lain dari dia itu adalah rasis, tanpa menyedari bahawa dia sendiri bersikap rasis buta.

    Apabila bermati2an cuba mempertahankan seorang budak perempuan anti kerajaan yg tidak tahu berbahasa cina, dengan berkata lawyer Norman itu blur blur, budak itu tahu setakat nak beli nasi lemak, dan dia tak pernah jumpa budak2 cina above 18 yang tak tahu Bahasa, nampaklah sangat betapa prejudis rasis dan hipokritnya si bodoh sombong ini hinggakan si Norman pun sanggup diperlekehnya, walhal norman itu DAP. Bayangkan kalau norman itu Umno, sudah tentu trooper2 DAP akan mempertahankan Hua Yong ini.

    Hua Yong, Hannah Yeoh…tak de bezanya perangai hipokrit2 DAP yang sewaktu dengan mereka. Kerana kemunafikan mega mereka inilah maka bangsa melayu yang dulu bersikap toleran kini berubah menjadi rasis. Menyampah sungguh saya dengan golongan takde kelas yang perasan high class ini.

    • 3. Darlyn Azlinda  |  January 30, 2013 at 9:45 am

      Hua Yong = Hannah Yeoh = HY

      Hannah Yeoh in disguise as Hua Yong. Who knows?

      Mcm sedap jugak buat spekulasi cmni. Hehe.

    • 4. Sharifah  |  January 30, 2013 at 10:42 am

      Setuju dengan pendapat you. Helen, wishing you lots of strength and courage to face all the fitnah coming your way. Saya tertarik dengan tag-line from another blog.which says something like ” in the course of berjuang, you have to face all sorts of tomahan “.

  • 5. kiasu  |  January 29, 2013 at 11:43 pm

    Correcto…budak perempuan anti kerajaan yang tidak tahu berbahasa melayu…”

  • 6. Fakin' Fake Calvin  |  January 29, 2013 at 11:59 pm

    I stumbled across your blog some months back when I took a keener interest in the “cyber warfare” waged in the run-up to the GE. I don’t always agree with your postings but if I choose to keep my counsel, I have no one to blame for not speaking up but myself.

    I do have to say that I find your sense of humor somewhat amusing, keeping serious issues light, fluffy even but never disguising the underlying message. I could understand why the pro opposition hounds accused you as a lap dog & other uncouth words but I really think they are missing the point.

    At the heart of it all, correct me if I’m wrong, it’s all about a nation united. And to do that, you need common unifying factors of which language would be the forefront of. As you succinctly put it, not all Germans were Nazis or all Afghans Talibans thus the need for the minority to not cry wolf at every slight, perceived or otherwise.

    As for the amount of legwork you put in for your pieces, I have no doubt that it took many painstaking hours. I find your graphs, charts, visual aids both informative & at times LOL inducing. As I said, I may not always agree with your opinions but I hope you keep up what you’re doing. To disagree civilly marks good breeding & a mind not limited by its’ self imposed boundaries. I could only wish I could be as articulate as you but I suppose looking your articles up consistently is a good start.

    Cheers & a happy Chinese New Year to you. Beware of the “snakes” with their forked tongues ya!

    • 7. Helen Ang  |  January 30, 2013 at 12:07 am


      Share a secret with you. There’s a dormant cartoonist in me trying to wake up.

      Truly, I used to draw cartoons and they were published but my pencil is today so rusty.

      I do in future hope to be able to put up my cartoons – I can do pretty nifty caricatures – using this blog platform.

      That may explain the humour and the LOL-inducing visuals.


    • 8. I hate n'sync  |  January 30, 2013 at 2:45 am

      Agreed. Can’t control what HY thinks or says. I am wondering if it is time to visit pro-DAP blogs. Know any that doesn’t require comment registration?

  • 9. atas pagar  |  January 30, 2013 at 2:54 am

    Kak Helen,

    Apabila Rumah Putih anjur majlis berbuka puasa, Mr President (seorang minoriti Afrika/Amerika) tidak pulak menyamar jadi sesumpah…pakai songkok/kupiah…untuk menggambarkan betapa rapatnya beliau dengan Muslim Amerika iaitu satu lagi golongan minoriti di sana.

    Maknanya, satu golongan minoriti tidak perlu jadi hipokrit, atau jadi umpama ‘enau dalam belukar melepaskan pucuk masing-masing’ atau menjadikan minoriti lain sebagai batu loncatan. Sebaliknya antara golongan minoriti harus berkerjasama, hormat menghormati dan bertaut ‘bagaikan aur dan tebing’.

    Barang diingat bahawa tanpa kepercayaan dari kalangan majoriti, tidak mungkin jugak puak minoriti boleh menggenggam kuasa.secara demokratik dan berhemah. Cumanya apabila sesama minoriti saling pijak memijak antara satu sama lain, apakah majoriti akan hormat pada mereka ini?

    Justeru untuk mendapatkan kepercayaan itu golongan minoriti perlu bekerja keras tetapi bukan mengharapkan retorik kosong akan mampu meraih kepercayaan otomatik dari kalangan majoriti. Bermimpilah.

    Apa yang ketara dan melata ialah golongan minoriti seolah-olah percaya bahawa kepercayaan yang diberikan oleh golongan majoriti pada Pas/Umno akan tertumpah pada mereka.jua! Bukankah lebih terhormat kalau diusahakan sendiri?

    Kalau itulah halnya, sampai kucing bertanduk pun golongan majoriti tidak nampak kenapa mereka harus berikan kepercayaan pada minoriti. Dan tanpa adanya kepercayaan tersebut peluang untuk minoriti pegang kuasa adalah zero melainkan menerusi kaedah penjajah Barat…guna fleksi otot dan gigi taring.

    • 10. Helen Ang  |  January 30, 2013 at 4:18 am

      Manusia Reavers. Butir-butir di sini, http://firefly.wikia.com/wiki/Reaver

      • 11. Fakin' Fake Calvin  |  January 30, 2013 at 4:32 am

        Don’t you ever sleep? At least I have a valid reason to be awake at this ungodly hour – football!!!

        • 12. Helen Ang  |  January 30, 2013 at 5:09 am

          Rant below not directed at you. I consider your comment nice and friendly. But I need to let off steam, urghhhh, esp. after the recent scuffle with the rugby squad.

          *** *** ***

          You know, staring at the computer screen at 2am or 4am is a measure of my diligence and dedication to this blog.

          Thus I’m beyond insulted at beruk like King Kong who keeps flooding my Comments with accusations that MCA is “my political master” lah, “how much are they paying you?” lah

          And from others, the usual type, “you cheap prostitute selling your soul to the devil and willing to do the dirty” allegations.

          This dedication that I display is not something that money can buy.

          Thus I’m most certainly truly and thoroughly pissed off at the buttheads who think that if I don’t publish their repetitive insults “you’re an MCA/BN whore” comments, then it means I’m curtailing their freedom of expression or practicing censorship in this blog.

          What?! To operate a blog that disagrees with the DAP hypocrisy I must be willing subject myself to be pummelled by their &!%@& body blows daily?

          *** *** ***

          There. Dah lepaskan geram.

          Did your team win? :D

          • 13. Fakin' Fake Calvin  |  January 30, 2013 at 12:01 pm

            Yup, I get the frustration. Let’s just say I was once in a situation not too dissimilar to yours though those I was grappling with were my coworkers rather than a wider reach like yours.

            Methinks the supposed political awakening caused by the “tsunami” five years ago is actually bringing more harm than good. The polarization on the basis of ideologies, race & religion is showing how beneath the surface, we are a nation divided. Above all, the maturity for civil discourse is virtually non existent.

            I do at times take potshots at others with dissenting views but as much as possible when I comment, I try to explain my POV & I would respond to whatever is thrown back at me. But it is sad to note that the supposedly courteous Malaysian disappears behind the keyboard & computer screen just as they do when the get into the driver seat.

            For the record, I played my part in the change 5 years back by voting for it. 5 years on, older & wiser, I’m beginning to understand what my parents meant when they said DAP are the worst hypocrites & racists of em all. And that’s the POV of an urban, Chinese. I waited a while now to undo what I did then, but the moment is dawning soon & I for one, can’t wait.

            Helen, I love Bon Jovi & he sang once you need to Keep The Faith. Conviction & dedication to the cause will ultimately lead you home, wherever that may be. Keep pegging away & know that there will always be those who understand & support your cause.

            As for your so called “rant”, I’m sure there are readers out there who don’t mind to be your scratching post from time to time if only for you to let some steam off.

            P/S: The team I support plays tonight (Thurs morning) but their arch enemy was held to a draw by Uncle Tony’s team… Heh heh heh

            • 14. Helen Ang  |  January 30, 2013 at 12:22 pm


  • 15. cheng  |  January 30, 2013 at 6:20 am

    I also stumbled upon your blog some 2 weeks back and have ‘followed’ it since. I have not been politically inclined, but had voted for DAP in the past 7 GE, because they had projected a good image of being a principled party. In my view, their outstanding success in the 2008 GE has changed them and they have now abandoned all principles in their lust for political power. Little do they realise that little by little, there are also people who used to support them that will now not do so.
    You have my sympathy and support .

    • 16. Helen Ang  |  January 30, 2013 at 6:21 am

      Thank you.

  • 17. Ahmad Ibrahim  |  January 30, 2013 at 10:18 am

    he thinks and acts like he is a liberal. but there is nothing liberal about him. that man HY after he couldn’t argue rationally, he had to go to his natural surroundings, those cyber ghettos populated by like minded people, to launch his tirade against those that disagreed with him. he is just like that husband of the S J HY who would gladly sell his dignity, his heritage just so that people like the S J HY praise him to the high heavens. then again, this is also of him showing his inferiority complex. he and people like him need the affirmation, the recognition of the white wannabes to feel vindicated. the blogger Shuzheng call people like HY jejune. but then again, how is someone like HY ever going to know that they are jejune ? after all, people that are jejune, they are simplistic, naive, superficial.

  • 18. Hussin Rahman  |  January 30, 2013 at 11:41 am

    The problem in Malaysia today is that many supporters of political parties cannot accept the fact that the majority of Malaysians are decent people. These decent people are true blue Malaysians who want to live in peace and harmony and can tolerate each other’s idiosyncrasies. These decent Malaysians prefer hard and honest work. They don’t have inflated egos or nurture big dreams or chase after political posts, big cars, big wives, big bungalows or sexy mistresses or toyboys. I feel it’s these 10 percent of Malaysians who are making all the noise and creating all the problems we face today. I suggest…why don’t we, the silent majority, take the big step to decimate or eliminate these troublesome 10 percent of Malaysians?

  • 19. M.s.s  |  January 30, 2013 at 11:54 am

    Dear Helen,
    Simpati saya atas kesusahan anda utk bersihkan nama.
    Inilah antara masalah sebenarnya utk negara…ramai yg TAKSUB tak tentu hala dgn parti politik sampai sanggup caci, hina fitnah tpi menyorok dibelakang nama samaran (kedua2 belah).
    Org biasa duk hentam maki hamun sama sendiri tpi entah2 MP-MP masih boleh duk bertepuk tampar satu meja sambil mkn kacang cap tangan dgn segelas air kopi + hisap rokok..bukan kita tahu pun.

    P/s helen, ive stopped taking my copious dose of ecstakini pills long long time ago when i realized better material and mature comments are available elsewhere (your blog is one of them).

    • 20. Helen Ang  |  January 30, 2013 at 12:22 pm


  • 21. MalayPrincess  |  January 30, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    Dapster’s gifted talent is excellently can spin and twist the fact from original discussion. That’s what I can conclude from Hua Yong’s comment. He mentioned about Japanese chose to speak Japanese eventhough the Japs can speak decent English. It’s totally out of the context. Hua Yong learns and imitates very well from Hannah Yeoh, how to put their fault into other people face.

    Logiknya; Melayu/Mat Salleh/Cina/Korea/etc yang pergi ke Jepun, study/kerja/kahwin ALL SPEAK JAPANESE. They submit to the Japanese’s culture obligation that they MUST SPEAK JAPANESE. Same goes to South Korea & France and even Thailand (based on my experience in these countries). Very little amount of foreigners speak English in Japan, South Korea, Thailand, France and etc etc etc.

    Therefore, the same logic applies to all Malay, Chinese, Indian, Kadazan, Senoi, Bidayuh, Sikh, Nigeria, Bangla, Indon, Vietnamese….whoever resides, studies, doing business, marry etc etc here MUST SPEAK BAHASA KEBANGSAAN, BAHASA MALAYSIA like. Bangla yang datang kerja sini pun lagi fasih cakap BM.

    Walaupun English digunakan dengan meluas di Malaysia sebagai bahasa kedua, ia tidak seharusnya mengenepikan BM sebagai bahasa utama.

    Not to offend any race here, but between Chinese & Indian, I notice more Indian fellas are very good in Malay Language. Kadang-kadang lagi fasih dari Melayu, siap dengan intonasinya, dengan peribahasanya. I prefer and more friendlier with Indian rather than Chinese, unfortunately due to this factor. With Chinese now, lots of suspicion….sorry to say. They are smiling to us when doing business…but who know at the back?

    P/S: 2-3 minggu lepas, saya naik bas ekspres ke KL. Di belakang saya ada seorang pakcik Cina dan pakcik India berbual-bual sepanjang perjalanan 2 jam ke KL. Umur mereka saya agak dalam 60an. Dan saya tak dapat menahan senyum bila dengar mereka berjenaka. Cuba teka bahasa apa yang mereka gunakan dalam perbualan mereka? Begitu nostalgia kerana senario/keadaan begitu hanya berlaku dalam iklan-iklan Petronas sahaja agaknya? Tapi di luar bandar, saya rasa integrasi di antara kaum masih berjalan dengan agak baik, berdasarkan pemerhatian saya.

    Kalau di KL pula, saya banyak kali terserempak wanita/gadis Cina dan wanita/gadis Melayu yang biasanya bertudung keluar berjalan untuk makan tengah hari bersama-sama. Kadang2kala melintas jalan sambil pegang lengan masing-masing. Adakah ketakutan politik perkauman hanya mainan ahli politik dan media termasuklah blog agaknya? Sedangkan rakyat majoriti yang sebenarnya hidup bersama-sama tak memikirkan pun tentang kebencian yang sedang cuba diapi-apikan?

    • 22. Ahmad Ibrahim  |  January 30, 2013 at 12:48 pm


      sebenarnya tiada masalah antara orang Melayu dan Tionghua. yang menimbulkan masalah, yang sengaja, yang beriya riya membangkitkan masalah, adalah golongan seperti HY Subang Jaya dan HY yang telah menfitnah saudari Helen. mereka tak aman apabila rakyat Malaysia hidup aman, harmoni. mereka sedar jika rakyat Malaysia hidup aman, harmoni, tiada harapan bagi mereka untuk terus bermain politik.

      seperti yang saya telah katakan beberapa kali, golongan yang menonjolkan diri mereka ni sebagai liberal, sebagai terbuka, adalah golongan yang paling kuat berpolitik. anything can and should be politicised, dan golongan inilah golongan yang paling suka, paling kerap ungkit isu isu berbau perkauman. rupa saja liberal tapi sebenarnya pemikiran mereka sempit. daya pemikiran mereka terhad.

      orang seperti HY Subang Jaya dan HY yang menfitnah Helen, mereka ni bukan orang Tionghua tulen. mereka ni ada nama Tionghua dan wajah Tionghua saja, in other words the only thing Chinese about them is them having a Chinese name and Chinese face. other than that there is nothing Chinese about them. the Malay equivalent is aptly represented by Haris Ibrahim and his mob. for the Indian version, just look at those in PKR and DAP. they are all frauds.

    • 23. shamshul anuar  |  January 30, 2013 at 7:25 pm

      Malay princess,

      Orang melayu dan Cina “sudah terpisah’ antara satu sama lain. Perpisahan bermula dari kecil lagi melalui sekolah berasingan.

      Kerana orang cina sudah “terasing’ dari orang melayu, mereka tidak sedar bahawa orang melayu juga ada aspirasi dan perkara perkara yang dianggap ‘pantang disentuh”.

      Boleh dikatakan hampir semua rakan Cina saya terperanjat bila saya beritahu mereka bahawa penentangan Melayu terhadap bukan islam gunakan nama “Allah” bukan disebabkan manipulasi UMNO.

      Dan ramai orang Cina (rakan saya) terperanjat bila saya beritahu mereka bahawa saya nampak Melayu semakin menyokong UMNO. Dan mereka lagi terperanjat bila saya katakan bahawa orang melayu melihat DAP sebagai anti Melayu.

      Masalh pemimpin melayu ialah mereka terlampau lembut. Dan pemimpin DAP ambil kesempatan dengan berpuluh tahun lamanya fitnah Melayu (UMNO) kononnya anti Cina.

      “Kalau dizaman Sultan Melaka, dah lama Kit siang dan segala suku sakatnya kena sula”, kata seorang jiran saya.

  • 24. jonnymalaya  |  January 30, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    >> As a past columnist, of course I’ve written critically about Umno and BN before. And I can tell you that they never went berserk or ever attacked me like the DAP leaders and their supporters do.

    Nope, they just make a police report where you get hauled up for questioning, even on shaky evidence. Same thing happened with Nat Tan & Jed Yoong.

    Of course since that Helen has switched camps, its best this be totally ignored by her

    • 25. Helen Ang  |  January 30, 2013 at 9:34 pm

      Urm, the president of Perkasa did not win his Pasir Mas seat under a BN party. It was on a PAS ticket.

      “Switching camps” implies that I was in a political party. I’ve never ever been a member of a political party before and I do not have membership in any political party now.

    • 26. I hate n'sync  |  January 31, 2013 at 1:14 am

      I’m not too sure. You mean that making a police report (which naturally results in the police having to make an investigation, or else you will call PDRM other names), is more evil than going bonkers on the keyboard with profanities?

      I feel sorry for people who make police reports over disagreeable remarks, but I feel equally sorry also for stupid people who cannot string together a coherent argument. Yeah, I know, I am kinda apologetic on these kind of matters.

      • 27. Helen Ang  |  January 31, 2013 at 5:29 am

        The profanities by those going bonkers on the keyboard is one thing. Their sheer viciousness is another.

  • 28. I.D.A.  |  January 31, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    HY tu berbau sesuatu ikan (direct translate) pada namanya. aku saspek dah lama dah… tak gentlemen (kalau lelakilah) dok ungkit lepas dah terima maaf.

    aku kena lagi teruk, ada penyamar di blog lain pakai nama I.D.A…memang dasar bangsa(t) low class.

    • 29. Helen Ang  |  January 31, 2013 at 1:42 pm

      He was responding to my quote of his words more recently in reply to Ayah.

  • 30. Dot  |  January 31, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    Sounds crazy but I just wept reading what you wrote.if only all bloggers were as responsible as you we wouldnt have such war of words on the internet.good job.

    • 31. Helen Ang  |  January 31, 2013 at 8:36 pm


  • 32. Snuze  |  February 6, 2013 at 11:49 am

    Kekadang terasa nak kata, “Orang gila tak usah dilayan.” Tapi demi mempertahankan maruah, kena juga membuka kata.

    Excellent job on illuminating how moronic some people can be, Ms. Ang. Keep on typin’!


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