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Hindraf replies to Mariam Mokhtar’s 10 questions

Continues from ‘When Umno wins the GE, who will be blamed?!

Reply from Hindraf

Mariam Mokhtar is a Malaysian and a columnist for Malaysiakini. She resides in the UK. She sent in these questions during the period of Waytha’s 21-day hunger Viratham and has pushed insensitively for a response. Here is the response.

The response is penned by Hindraf national advisor N. Ganesan but the thoughts are Waytha’s.

Waytha Moorthy has just ended his hunger strike. He has been on strike for 21 days. He is unable to respond personally for obvious reasons and he has asked me to respond on his behalf.

The responses, though they come from me [Ganesan], closely mirror Waytha’s thoughts.

I feel sad that you are portraying him to have betrayed his cause and you are pressing this point at a time when he is going through this Hunger Viratham [Day 18] and physically and mentally under great stress.

So much for having been your friend. Regardless, here are the responses:

Mariam’s question (1): You appear to target the opposition, instead of focusing your ire on BN, whose policies corrupted the country and its institutions. Some people claim that in approaching both parties, you (and/or Hindraf) are acting like prostitutes.* What have to say about this?

Hindraf’s response: You talk about two parties as if one was all good and the other all evil. The truth is they are really not that much different – not their economic policies, not their social policies. One just has not had the opportunity yet, to be that corrupt, though we can already see the outlines of corruption even in the fledgling Pakatan Administrations across the country. As for social policy, talk to Anwar and he will tell you how sacred article 153 is to him, just the same as Umno.

To the poor it makes little difference who is in power as long as there is no impact to their daily lives. There is nothing sacred for them, one or the other. We represent them. We are only interested in real changes in their lives. Their lives have gotten rotten because of Umno’s policies of the past. If there are changes in Umno’s policies tomorrow and it improves their lives then that is what they must go for.

That does not  mean we change our push for a just and equal Malaysia. After having dealt directly with  Pakatan and all their bungling, we are beginning to question if they are the change that Malaysia truly needs. That does not mean our basic policies have changed. It is just that they [Pakatan] are really not that different – in spite of their high sounding rhetoric.

Much as we want to work with Pakatan, they are the ones who seem to have a problem with us. We have made so many overtures. We have had 18 meetings, both formal and informal and have made several constructive proposals for a true partnership (you are not privy to any of that information.)

All we see on their part is bungling and incompetence. They make us feel that we are [standing] in their way to Putrajaya, so instead of embracing us, they try to kill us off in so many ways. And it is a pity that journalists like you whom we used to consider decent too can get caught up with all that.

Mariam’s question (2): For 56 years, BN continually broke its promises to the Indians. Do you like the Umno/BN style of governance? What is your view of Umno’s corruption? Can you continue to claim to be principled when you enter into talks with BN?

Hindraf’s response: BN’s track record with Indians in not exemplary. Nor is Pakatan’s. Just giving a few additional positions in the state hierarchy does not make one better when you still demolish Indian settlements, Indian burial grounds and Hindu temples.

For 56 years, BN failed the Indians and continually broke their promises to them. Pakatan has done no better for the 5 years that they have been in office in Penang – Kg Buah Pala, in Kedah –  Batu Pekak burial ground, in Selangor, all those places of worship? Despite this, you blame PR, for failing Hindraf. PR has not failed Hindraf; they just want to kill off this troublesome new kid on the block. Can you blame us for blaming Pakatan for wanting to kill us off?

(a) “Do you like the Umno/BN style of governance? What is your view of Umno’s corruption?”

After having known Waytha Moorthy for so long, I am surprised you even ask a question like that. I wonder what you truly have in your mind – when you pose questions like that. This is a no brainer question and I will just say this – go look at all his work in the past.

(b) “Can you claim to be principled when you are having talks with BN?”

What is unprincipled about talking to your enemy? How else do problems get resolved if not through contact of this sort?

We want to solve problems. There is nothing underhand here. There is only a genuine attempt to solve problems. It does not mean PR has all the solutions and Umno none. If you are in the know, you will know that Pakatan is bungling very badly in their relationships with all the minorities in the country, East and West Malaysia.

Hubris seems to have got them. In 2008 that same factor wiped out BN/Umno. In these elections if they do not watch it, much the same will hit them.

Let me ask you Mariam, are you being principled yourself in asking these kinds of convoluted questions after, as I understand of having spent so many hours in discussion with Waytha.

Mariam’s question (3): You were given your passport, safe passage into Malaysia via the Causeway and later, the ban on Hindraf was lifted. Some people allege that you or others in Hindraf had done a “deal” with Umno, perhaps, even with Mahathir, the former PM. What have you to say about this allegation?

Hindraf’s response: Did Anwar do a deal with Najib for him to get off the hook on Sodomy 2? Allegations are easy. You have to decide what you want to believe.

Najib is trying to placate the Indians for the votes he seeks from them. All what you list above derives from that. Waytha was just using the cracks in the situation and making the calls for advantage. You can relegate all that to his smartness in reading the opportunities.

Mariam’s question (4): Is Hindraf trying to fill the vacuum left by the MIC?

Hindraf’s response: MIC never stood up for the Indian poor – never. They just served Umno and themselves. We represent a segment of Malaysian society never before truly represented in the halls of power. This question is based on too simplistic a view. I am surprised at your shallowness of understanding in this matter.

Mariam’s question (5): Hindraf started as a human rights organisation, but has morphed into a race-based political party. How is Malaysia to move forward and reject racial politics if you continue to play the race card? How are your policies better than Pakatan’s?

Hindraf’s response: No Mariam, you got it all wrong. They were full of praise as long as we remained the fall guys. But when we started to stand up and ask for our fair share of the national resource, we are accused of morphing into a race-based party. We have not changed policy wise one bit. We are what we have always been in policy terms.

What may have changed is that we may now be more discussion orientated and less confrontation orientated. We have to find our future on our own without relying on others when dealing with devils.  See how messy things can get when the slaves start asking for their place in the sun.

We are still very much a human rights organization. We fight for the rights of those  who have been denied their rights and just because they all happen to be Indians, that  does not make us racists. The rights violations against the Indian poor has been most serious and there have been no takers for that, until we arrived. Wasn’t the civil rights movement of Martin Luther King also racist by that definition? What do you have to say about that?

(a) “How is Malaysia to move forwards and reject racial politics if you continue to play the race-card?”

You are absolutely right. Is DAP not a Chinese party. Is PAS a not a Malay Muslim party. Is PKR not a largely Malay party?

When they can give up their individual identities and merge into one big party on a common platform, then and only then can we truly move forward on a non racial basis. But they will not, because everyone knows it is still very much a race-based game. It is not Hindraf that is holding the party back, please.

We just represent the Indian poor and you call that playing the race card. Yet you have all these huge players playing the huge race cards right in front of your eyes and you do not want to see that. It is only when the Thambi stands and asks for his share of things that he is dabbling in dirty racial politics. This is typical Ketuanan Melayu approach. So how have you morphed, Mariam?

(b) “How are your policies better than PR’s?”

We are not competing with PR on whose policies are better. All we are saying is solve the problems we raise. Their policies will not solve the core problems that we raise in a comprehensive and permanent manner any time soon. There is no line of sight between their Buku Jingga policies and the problems we raise. That’s all.

Mariam’s question (6): You appear to be fighting racism with more racism. Not all Malays or bumiputeras benefit from the NEP. Many indigenous peoples from Sarawak are also stateless. Hindraf will look after the Indians, so what will Hindraf do for the poor people from the Malay, Chinese and other communities?

Hindraf’s response: There are stateless Indians, just as there are stateless Orang Asli, Penans etc. There are poor Jews too, you forgot to say that.

(a) “How is Malaysia to fight racism with more racism?”

What is your definition of racism? When victims of racism start speaking up, is that to be termed racism too? Were the blacks of the USA racists during the civil rights movement days?

Mariam I am surprised with your understanding on this very fundamental question. When we have so called progressives like you with such shallow understanding of things, it only serves to entrench racism.

Pakatan’s veiled structures and strategies are in truth racist. That, is fighting racism with a new brand of racism, with heralds like you for them. That absolutely takes away your veil of a progressive activist for the cause of humanity, when you define racism in such self-serving terms.

Mariam’s question (7): Many people have been played out by Umno and Najib. What makes you think that they will honour their promises and keep their “janji ditepati” to you?

Hindraf’s response: You are right about this. That is why we are asking for any endorsement from both PR and BN in a binding manner.

But then Anwar himself has serious reservations about signing an agreement on the Blueprint, I am sure you are fully aware about this. Why does he say he agrees in principle and then says he does not want to sign the agreement in binding way? This brings me back to my earlier point – there is not much difference.

Mariam’s question (8): Hindraf demanded 10 parliamentary and seven state seats for it to contest from Pakatan. Have you made a similar demand to BN?

Hindraf’s response: We cannot win in any seat on our platform without support from other parties. We harbour no illusions; this is the current fate of minorities in the country. When we try to raise [issues], you and your ilk shout us down saying we are bloody racists.

(a) “Have you made a similar demand to BN?”

We have just started the process of discussion. We have not made any such demands.

Mariam’s question (9): Do you seriously think you will win the 17 parliamentary and state seat allocations you demanded from Pakatan? Is it wise to tell your followers to abstain from voting?

Hindraf’s response:

(a) “If you do not get either PR or BN to align with you, what is your advice to your followers?”

We have several options and we will decide that in a while.

(b) “Will you tell them to abstain from voting? Is this wise?”

Strategic abstention has been known to have impact too. If it has impact and used judiciously, it can be a wise move. We will be deciding on all of this very soon.

(c) “Hindraf demanded 10 parliamentary seats and 8 state seats from Pakatan.”

Your numbers are wrong.

[Helen’s note: The questions earlier sent to Hindraf were worded slightly differently from what appeared yesterday in Mariam’s column. The phrasing in this copy, with regard to segments (9) above as well as (1)*, refers to the e-mail sent to Hindraf. Mariam’s version in Malaysiakini yesterday was amended to say “seven state seats” instead.]

Mariam’s question (10): You are now in your 18th day of the hunger strike. Do you think BN cares about the consequences of your hunger strike? [Helen’s note: Question as phrased in Mariam’s e-mail to Hindraf]

Do you think you will make a significant impact on Malaysians? What are your real reasons for going on this strike? What do you seek to accomplish with this hunger strike? What will make you start eating again?

Hindraf’s response: Let them answer that to the people to whom the hunger strike is an important symbol. Please see the attached photo of the people that gathered when Waytha ended his hunger strike.

(a) “Do you think you will make a significant impact on the Malaysian people with your hunger strike?”

With the Indian poor – yes.

(b) “What are your real reasons for going on this strike?”

To expose the fact that both sides are only interested in the votes but not the problems of the Indian poor. We want to sharpen this view to our supporters too, so that they will not be carried away by the rhetoric.

(c) “What do you seek to accomplish with this hunger strike? What will make you start eating again?”

When we have made clear the positions of both PR and BN on how much they care for the problems of the Indian poor.

Mariam, on what authority you ask Waytha these questions I do not know.

Now, let me see if you are indeed a professional journalist. Here are 10 questions that we would like you to pose to Anwar Ibrahim to clarify your credentials, that you are not a new morphed form of Ketuanan Melayu journalist and then go public with any response or lack of it from him.

[Helen’s note: I’m omitting to publish Hindraf’s questions to Anwar]

Mariam, we hope you will ask these questions to Anwar Ibrahim with the same objective passion as you have done of Waytha Moorthy. If you do not pose these questions we will just have to take it that you are just a morphed form of Ketuanan Melayu journalist. Life teaches us every day.

Thank You

Kind regards

N. Ganesan

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30 thoughts on “Hindraf replies to Mariam Mokhtar’s 10 questions

  1. rakyat sabah lebih miskin dari org india la hindraf.

    banyak org india sekarang sudah senang, dah jarang jmpa yg susah. saya ada bnyak kawan india semasa di kg, tp takda pulak yg susah melampau dan tiada ic. suasahnya sama dgn org kg melayu

    1. re: “susahnya (orang India) sama dgn org kg melayu”

      Akan tetapi orang kampung Melayu sudah banyak dibantu kerajaan Umno. Ramai orang Melayu hari yang berpendidikan tinggi dan berkelayakan profesional, betul tak?

      Contohnya Khir Toyo boleh jadi doktor, anak Nizar (bekas MB Perak) masuk MRSM, Rafizi lepasan MCKK …

      Kalau buzz “jarang jumpa [orang India] yg susah”, mungkin kawan-kawan saudara yang India itu adalah golongan berkerjaya doktor, peguam atau pakar-pakar perubatan. Mereka tu India Kristian! :)

      1. Kalau buzz “jarang jumpa [orang India] yg susah”, mungkin kawan-kawan saudara yang India itu adalah golongan berkerjaya doktor, peguam atau pakar-pakar perubatan. Mereka tu India Kristian! :)

        Can you prove that Indians who are working in the white collar sector are Christians?


        re: “And not all want to help their own communities.”

        They are Christians. They do not see themselves as Indians as they do not believe there is such a concept as Race. We are all equal ‘Anak Bangsar Malaysia’ in their eyes.

        I suppose Samy Vellu, Vell Pari, and the MIC leaders who have failed the community must be Secret Christians. Perhaps we should wait for your next expose

  2. I always wonder why certain Indians of Hindu religion have the tendency to put up new temples on public lands; other words putting up illegal new temples.

    When the authorities demolish these kind of temples, they run aMok. Is it difficult for them to understand that they could not simply put up new temples any where they please? Some of the problems that beset the Indian communities are of their own doing. I am surprised that some still practice the ‘caste’ thing in Msia. And not all want to help their own communities.

    1. re: “And not all want to help their own communities.”

      They are Christians. They do not see themselves as Indians as they do not believe there is such a concept as Race. We are all equal ‘Anak Bangsar Malaysia’ in their eyes.

      They insist that Indians are only to be found in India. Therefore Tamil Hindus are NOT their own communities.

      1. Helen dear, Setem is telling the obvious, whether we like it or not, the temple building under big trees can be found almost in every Indian settlement. Especially In Plantations those days it is a common to see small individual temple were put up.

        I lived in a Malay kampong neighbouring to a big oil palm estate with mostly Tamil workers. Their living quarters is across the road to my kampong.

        Obviously, my school mates are also living in these quarters. I love the evening chapatis. My friend’s mum masak capati using the wok base (the kuali terbalik).

        This is in Kajang-Semenyih area. The lapidated quarters are still there, but, mostly are unoccupied. My friends’ house are vacant, parents either both dead or the one left followed them or siblings.

        What is left are the old unattended (I don’t think the estate is running any more). Part of the estate, especially near Kajang is now a new township.

        I think, Waytha is talking about these “displaced Indians”. In the evening, “samsu time” becomes the norm here.

        Former Estate Indian workers or FEIW

        Why don’t Hindraf focus on this group, get them registered as FEIW. I think we can focus on solution from Former estates in Penang, Perak, Selangor, Negeri Sembilan and Johor.

        Getting old, no work, left abandon by plantation owners..worse is the “samsu” problem. I hate to see the guys use to be my football opponents during growing up in Kampung, become “samsu heads”,

        YES, FEIW ARE DISPLACED CITIZEN IN MALAYSIA. This is a unique situation. Moreover, they are still staying on land that does not belong to them, just waiting to be evicted.

        1. re: “the temple building under big trees can be found almost in every Indian settlement”

          Altars to Tokongs for 4-D numbers can even be found in the jungle!

          Perhaps it’s because I do not belong to either of the monotheistic religions (Christianity and Islam) which frown on idolatry, these shrines di bawah pokok and other small “illegal” temple buildings do not bother me. I adopt the live-and-let-live attitude to them.

          To me, DAP’s kool-aid of Anak Bangsar Malaysia is a disconnect that makes the race relations worse. Their hot air of “we’re all brothers and sisters” is a lot of ultra Chinaman fart even if cloaked in the righteous vocabulary of Jerusubang jubah.

          It’s more realistic to think in terms of conflict management rather than kumbaya.

          1. Dear Helen,

            The temple building everywhere tendencies as raised by Setem and Moya is a major issue with a lot of Malays and to a certain extent, I feel this is the reason why most Malays are “turned off” in matters raised by Hindraf, rightly or wrongly.

            On your comments re altars to Tokong for 4-Ds, even if its in the centre of town, such constructions do not evoke the same emotions to the Malays – in fact most Malays would tell their children not to “disturb” such altars / tokong etc so, for me, it is not an issue of idolatry but its more of the subsequent “growth” of said temple without concern of legality et al …

            1. Appreciate your ability to convey your opinions so nicely.

              The Dapster commenters are really taxing my patience. I’m sure my fraying patience is showing in the tone of my replies to them.

          2. Thanx Helen – I also do not like name calling, rude behaviour etc etc etc … shows a lack of culture which is the unfortunate situation for Malaysia and Malaysians presently :-(

  3. I’m never a fan of Hindraf but the answers make sense lah. Not that I agree with all of them though.

  4. I’ve cut and paste Ganesan’s and Mariams words which I feel interesting to comment:

    1. Their lives have gotten rotten because of Umno’s policies of the past.
    My view: Poor indian lives gotten rotten because of UMNO’s policies? My understanding is that UMNO’s policies is for the Malays. What UMNO policies that has affected the poor Indians?

    2. For 56 years, BN failed the Indians and continually broke their promises to them.
    My view: Why not straight away says that MIC failed by all means it was Samy Vellu who failed! Blaming BN as a whole means blaming MCA, Gerakan, SUPP and other BN components party too.

    3. MIC never stood up for the Indian poor – never. They just served Umno and themselves.
    My view: I agree MIC failed but saying that MIC just served UMNO is totally incorrect. Component parties in BN worked with each other, they compromised each other. Should MIC failed to recognised the poor Indian, then it is MIC’s fault not because MIC served UMNO.

    4. Mariam’s question (7): Many people have been played out by Umno and Najib.
    Hindraf’s response: You are right about this.
    My view: Seems that both party agreed with the slandering tactics by the Pakatan..najib has been our PM for just 2.5 years or so…poor Indian have been in this country for a time longer than that.

    Helen,

    I see that both sides have grudges whether Mariam or Ganesan or even Waytha.

    And, I also see that most Pakatan supporters by effort of their leaders and even Hindraf were infected by this hatred campaign and therefore they hardly recognise an individual to a party.

    A party is strong when they have strong policies accepted by all and that is BN. But, BN became ineffective when a certain suppose to be responsible failed in their duties and responsibilities and I find it unwise to blame BN as a whole.

    As for Pakatan, they have insecure policies which they themselve are not sure of. Therefore, they failed as a strong Organization plus they perform badly too and I cannot complain if they were not recognised by matured and wise rakyat.

    Pepatah Melayu ada menyebut, ‘ marahkan nyamuk, kelambu dibakar’ dan satu lagi ‘terdengar guruh dilangit, air tempayan dicurahkan” is a way to look at the Pakatan people and the rakyat who feels the same way towards the Goverment.

    No matter what I’ve commented here, I do hope to see Hindraf finds their solutions with PM Najib. At least his Janji diTepati could be taken for granted and not manifesto bukan janji.

  5. I must say that I hate hindraft mainly among others for the slander that the govt systematically killing the indians.. it is grossly illogical.. these answers do not change my stand a bit abt hindraf.. but I must say that ds najib did good for still entertaining this group of people..

    1. RELATIVITY

      I have a more positive opinion of BN today than I did 3 years ago. It’s relative following what I’ve seen of Pakatan behaviour over the last 3 years. So BN looking better in my eyes currently is relative to Pakatan sinking in my opinion.

      You hate Hindraf for the posturing they did in 2007 (around the time when they shot to national prominence with the rally and their leaders got ISA-ed).

      That’s 6 years ago. We can see how the opposition has been bullying and slandering and insulting Hindraf and poor Indians.

      With the benefit of hindsight, we can also adjust our perspectives according to the fresh insight that we have gained over the last 6 years.

      Najib’s decision to call the meeting with Hindraf in Putrajaya is an indication that even Umno has adjusted its perspective. The Indians have also been adjusting their perspectives of Najib.

      We can move forward. Our country will leave the Pakatan’s Politics of Fitnah and the DAP’s Politics of Hate behind. I’m confident that the GE13 results will reflect our ability and wisdom to move forward. The poor Indians may no longer be in the oppo camp like they were in 2008.

      1. Unfortunate but because of Hindraf posturing in 2007, the Indian community lost the political trust of many a pro-government Malays … Not sure how this will pan out but regaining trust is a journey – the response to DS Najib approach to Hindraf is eagerly awaited

        1. That’s why I try to help in conveying the issue to a Malay audience. Because I’m not Indian and am more detached from their emotionally charged grievances.

          As a first step at least, using my non-Indian name to put across the explanations with some objectivity, can hopefully disarm the baggage that Hindraf is saddled with.

  6. Orang2 India patut belajar merasa bersyukur. Kehidupan mereka jauh lebih baik dari nenek moyang mereka yang awal2 datang ke Tanah Melayu. Lihat di sekeliling kalian, ramai orang India yang dah berjaya.

    1. En. Rafy, memang ramai kaum India diMalaysia yang berjaya tetapi lagi ramai yang semakin ketinggalan – cabarannya ialah bagaimana Malaysia hendak menangani perkara ini kerana, jika tidak dibendung, masalah sosial akan bertambah teruk dan seluruh Malaysia akan menanggung akibatnya

  7. i am not against any betterment of a certain race, if that statement makes me racist so be it but i do think Hindraf owe everyone an apology with the genocide statement they’ve once claimed.

    I am ignorant in politics but to say that for 56 years, BN has sidelined the indian community would be harsh: a bit dramatic if you ask me. Maybe MIC didn’t work hard enough to cover every Indian but they have tried. I can understand that all these splinter groups are voicing out their frustrations but how can they be heard when they’re not even united – but playing the blame game day in/day out?

    I respect Waytha’s Gandhi approach but from statements made before & after Hindraf’s meeting with Najib, there still no hint of diplomacy whatsoever.

    Well, that’s my observation, I could be wrong.

    1. “Hindraf owe everyone an apology with the genocide statement they’ve once claimed.”

      “there still no hint of diplomacy whatsoever”

      Agreed. And becoz of the above, I’m not sympathetic of Hindraf.

      Having said that, I will support any policy/action that will enable BN Govt to help the poor Indians. Rich Indians should do their part to help too. Janganlah jadi kacang lupakan kulit.

  8. Dari satu sudut, bagus adanya Hindraf ni. Malah apa salahnya BN jadikan Hindraf parti komponen BN. Although I am not sure how it will affect MIC. Looking at the common faces of MIC they are probably of higher-caste compared to the ones represented by Hindraf.

    I must say, the Malaysian Hindu-Indians cannot, just yet, get rid of their caste mind set.

    I am in the opinion that Umno-led BN will be able to address the plights of Hindraf, some if not all. Malay has succeeded to a certain degree and has experiences in dealing with the need to upgrade ones socio-economic lives through cronyism and nepotism.

    Why not create a towering lower-caste Hindu-Indian who can apply cronyism and nepotism concepts to their needy group. This is an area where Dato Samy Vellu failed to deliver to the larger group of the lower castes. He himself is of the lower caste, something went wrong, I guess.

    At the same time, there are policies/incentives to help the poor irregardless of race. Did Hindraf make noise if these incentives had been discriminating them? Or were their leaders so clueless?

    I am sure malays, despite what hindraf did a few years, are willing to forgive them. We are more sympathetic to these indians than say the urban well off type.

    I am biased against PR in this respect because, the Indians in PR look just so urban, look so out of place when standing besides grubby looking aci in worn saris.

  9. I also wish all people in Malaysia to own BMW 7 series. I mean all people in Malaysia, but in reality who will buy Proton’s cars if all people afford to buy the BMW???

    If there left 1000 Indians who live in poverty do you think the poor Malays also at 1000 figure who live in kampongs or in slump areas in cities?

    I think playing with numbers is quite tricky. But I see chinese out numbered the other races who drives more BMWs in this country.

  10. What is the problem here, where is the human values, do you know what is like not eating for 22 days ?

    Leave everything a side, I have just a fundamental question, what if Hindraf hasn’t existed, would that change our politics or plight fellow Tamils.

    I am not sure why racism has to do with their struggle, remember the so called Indians are mixed of Indian muslims & Christians, Sikh, other minority Hindu’s – Telugu’s, Malayam’s that share the same race subject.

    With current government policy of 5 % quota, you wonder who take it all ?

  11. My candid opinion is that you started off on the wrong foot, though you try to show your noble intentions now.

    Why, why did you tell the world that Malaysia was doing the ethnic cleansing & genocide of the Indian Community, when in fact you could have crusaded on the point of marginalisation. You had disparaged your own country by indulging in untruths & falsity – don;t you think you owe an Appology and come out clean on the TV and the Media ?

    One thing i know, there are more Professional Indians like Doctors & lawyers, more successful & capable compared to Bumis – and you talk of ethnic cleansing ? That’s treacherous, you MUST openly Appologise through the media…..

  12. I feel for Indians and all Malaysians that are left behind in the mad march to be a developed Nation. The reality is some of us do run faster, prepare themselves to be fit, and take lesser stops to rest.

    Yes the Government policy of aiding the marginalised has not been fairly executed, and the Government of today must correct that.

    In the meantime the Hindraf leaders and Indian community should ponder my points below:

    1. Why are there such a huge number of Indians claimed to not have birth certificates? Are they really children of citizens of Malaysia?

    I am a Malay, lived around estates, my primary school was a Sekolah Kebangsaan for half the day, and Sekolah Kebangsaan Tamil the other half day. We were able to keep half the walls for the other school for their activities and they was never any incident that I could recall throughout my six years there. If those parents in the very ulu estate could register their children’s birth, why not the others?

    2. Yes it is very difficult to change my opinion of Hindraf leaders. No matter what they say now, to me Hindraf leaders tidak jujur and there is no reason for me to forgive them for accusing Malaysian Government of ethnic cleansing. I said Hindraf leaders were just political opportunists and still are.

    3. There is no reason why in some areas there are more Hindu temples than there are other places of worships combined. In most cases the temples get grand renovations not reflecting the POOR Indians that they represent. Sometimes I feel the mushrooming of temples under trees and around roads and public open spaces are just systematic plan to eventually claim ownership to properties that are not yours.

    Indian must expect help from Malays and Chinese, but they must also change or adjust to the changes of time.

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