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Kit Siang dan Guan Eng punya putar-belit

Utusan reported two days ago about “ibu pejabat DAP di Hotel Wenworth di Pudu”.

Although I myself am unable to shed more light, one piece of news that I can gather is that the DAP operations is supposedly somewhere next door.

RBA

(Red Bean Army cartoon on the editorial page of The J-Star, positioned below Wong Chun Wai’s column last week on 14 July 2013.)

It’s Wenworth.

Nobody except Kit Siang said Concorde

All this while the Umno bloggers have been alleging that the DAP cybertroopers operated from Hotel Wenworth, Pudu.

Hotel Wenworth is in Pudu.

Concorde Hotel Kuala Lumpur in Bukit Bintang, on the other hand, is almost five star (4-and-½).

DAP visits ‘Red Bean Army HQ’  The Malay Mail Online 2013-07-04 12-50-59
Kit Siang and his DAP leaders pull a publicity stunt of drinking red bean soup in Concorde

But the DAP successfully staged a strawman argument by twisting and falsifying as if the accusation had been that the RBA operated from Concorde.

Shifting the location from Wenworth to Concorde has the effect of making the allegation against DAP sound outlandish as a Golden Triangle hotel is too expensive.

This sly tactic of the DAP shows up just how deviously sneaky they are on the psywar front.

Just like how the Umno bloggers could have been on to something with regard to the rumour about Lim Guan Eng’s son but tripped when they were duped into publishing the decoy photo of the Hong Kong girl (chess player).

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DAP is good.

Real good

They have mastered the art of dirty, lowdown tactics.

And they play the strawman game so well.

It’s like how the operatives and supporters accuse me of being anti-Christian (a religion which has 2.5 billion adherents worldwide) when my criticism has been specific to the activities of the haram Jerusubang ‘churches’.

The evangelistas illegally operate their outfits as churches when those companies have actually been registered as businesses and have no permit to operate as houses of worship.

Aside from their political activism, these so-called churches carry out dakwah upon impressionable teenagers through entertainment worship. It is for this reason that I say the BN will not be able to recover the Chinese vote in GE14.

The Chinese youth who will be first-time voters are securely in the palm of the DAP hand.

And The J-Star is their parish newsletter.

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Bak kut teh is made halal.

Allah disyirikkan

Blogger Oik has previously observed – on another and different issue – how Lim Guan Eng’s “denial” didn’t at all address the claim at the heart of the matter. Read Oik HERE.

Dapsters are the kind of people who are so slippery in their sly twists and sneaky turns that blustering Ibrahim Ali types are simply no match. That’s why Malays are losing the perception war when up against such Iguana Engs.

The fact is that the Dapsters have no scruples at all in fabricating fitnah. They respect no boundaries of decency.

And now we have just seen how they try so hard to make the Alvivi bak kut teh halal.

If you’re a Malay who is alarmed looking at the brazen attempt to kebas the kalimah Allah, and making as if the God of Islam is the same as the evangelista Trinity, then you must pay close attention to the nexus between the DAP and the evangelical Church.

And the most important thing to remember is what kind of people they are.

Please read Oik’s What the Christians Say‘ and ‘What They Really Want‘.

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37 thoughts on “Kit Siang dan Guan Eng punya putar-belit

  1. I hope I will live long enough to see how “terrer” LGE in DAP politics when his father is gone.

    I hope the Ng cousins are still around to “terrorize” LGE in DAP.

    I hope to see these putar-belit masters, “twist” their internal foes in DAP.

    That will be the day to watch.

    p/s Will MCA still be around by then? Or still in comatose state?

  2. Helen,

    Actually Malays, short of saying it, already gives up genuine relationship with Chinese. Yes. Malays are “cordial” to Chinese. But Malays do not trust Chinese anymore. The exception are Malays from PAS of course . They are unfortunately still clueless that their influence among Malays are waning due to PAS submission to DAP.

    And Malays too(including UMNO finally, thank God) already realise that no point in wooing Chinese anymore. Malays (in general) realise that no matter what demands of Chinese that are granted BY UMNO leaders, they will vote for DAP.

    Another message that(I notice) escapes the attention of many is that those Malays who ally with DAP) suffers reduction of Malay votes in the last election. They (PAS and DAP) still won. But mainly on Chinese votes.

    So, what you said about Kit Siang, Guan Eng is not surprising.

    “Kalau tak putar belit, bukan DAP namanya”.

    1. Frankly speaking, putar belit is a second nature to most politicians, be they Malaysians or foreigners.

      Americans are guilty for being putar belit, ever since it became the world super power since WW2.

      They preached democracy to other countries, but looked the other way when the democratically elected Morsi Islamist government was ousted from the Egyptian government by the military.

      I dont need to list all the double speaks done by the American govt.

      But Amwar is the father of putar belit in Msia. DAP is learning fast from him.

      1. ” If Anwar Ibrahim could spend RM1.0 billion for useless FA 18 jet fighters (they cannot fly on any mission without “source code” approval from the United States – that is how dumb Anwar Ibrahim was when he bought the FA18 when he was the Deputy PM in 1993) ” from Outsyed the Box Hari ini.

  3. Good points raised by Oik and you about the raison d’être of Evangelism.

    OKM’s adoption of Islamic dogma (fasting, use of the word “Allah” etc) is also a form of acclimatization.

    Mind you I believe Religion should be a free for all and the sneaky underhanded moves of the Evangelist is a response to the State policies of jealously guarding its Religious turf.

    1. Track OKM on his views on hudud, please.

      More people should pay close attention to that formerly Insap-MCA/Sedar-Gerakan, and now DAP, opportunist.

    2. Well if you were to believe AK47’s account under another name(I’m assuming that’s him, it sounds like him) in chedet’s blog, the evangelist churches have been going around for decades and just now been more aggressive in the religion business.

      It’s a very profitable business or so he says.

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      “mubarakchanApril 28, 2013 at 10:09 AM | Permalink
      Tun

      For All Bloggers. It has come to the notice of everyone of the anti-BN Government activity of the very rich RM2 incorporated ‘churches’ housed in Petaling Jaya, Subang Jaya and other environs around the country. Through inside help, these anti-BN types have infiltrated the Star. My view is that the whole Board of the Star and its head honcho should be sacked forthwith.
      These RM2 incorporated entities are absolutely unlike the mainstream churches which heads were carefully selected, groomed and educated properly. For example, my late sister-in-law who was a helper in a hair dressing salon had her onw RM2 incorporated ‘Church’ and made tons and tons of money.
      How ? Because these RM2 incorporated entities are EXEMPTED FROM INCOME TAX and needs no capital but only the gift of the gab and a quick turn of the mind. As soon as the new BN Government is formed, it is proper to review this UNREGULATED, UNMONITORED AND UNHERALDED multi-billion ringgit business all headed by Chinamen. IS IT FAIR TO THE BN GOVERNMENT AND THE CITIZENS OF MALAYSIA THAT HERE IS A GROUP OF KIDS BEING SUBSIDISED BY ALL OF US AND ATTACK US IN GRATITUDE ? IS IT FAIR ? The new BN Government should review and study the shenanigans of these kids and form the CHARITIES COMMISSION like Singapore. AT THE MOMENT, THESE KIDS ARE DEFINITELY A THREAT TO THE SOVEREIGNTY, NATIONAL INTEREST, SELF-ESTEEM OF OUR BELOVED NATION.
      The hall-mark activity of these kids is to do the bongo-bongo voodoo dance of Subang Jaya to arouse and brainwash the uninitated. The wily and the cunning representing unseen hands manipulate their basal instincts to a frenzy. Here is a list of Malaysia’s famous capers as created by the Chinamen.

      1. 1950s. Political social welfare lotteries. Tontine
      2. 1960s. Mushroom insurance companies. Tontine
      3. 1970s. Chit Funds. Co-operatives. Tontine. The RM2 incorporated ‘churches’ first make appearace in late 1970s.
      4. 1980s. Share rigging. Insurance companies guarantees. The RM2 incorporated ‘churches’ grew.
      5. 1990s. Share rigging. The RM2 incorporated ‘churches’ grew.
      6. 2000s. Share rigging. The RM2 incorporated ‘churches’ consolidate. Gold Bullion trades. Forex money changers.
      7. 2013 The habitues of the RM2 incorporated ‘churches’ grew so BIG AND RICH that they are now BOLD and DARING to attack the BN Government with all their might to bring it down by BEING USED AND MANIPULATED BY THE FOREIGN BACKED PROXIES OF THE OPPOSITION ! (A Chinese tycoon confirmed that he is no longer afraid of the BN Government after making billions of ringgits from them.) These recalcitrants forgot they are just A DROP IN THE OCEAN OF MALAYSIAN HUMANITY. Troublemakers par excellence ! For the benefit of the foreign wily, cunning, and sinister hidden hands !

      Vote BN. All Malaysians. Your beloved country Malaysia needs you all !””

      End quote

      Seriously though, I don’t know what to think about AK47 other than he seems very persistent.

      Like Helen.

      1. Well I read some of the arguments going back and forth peppered with insinuations and insults involving AK47, HY and some others in that apa lagi orang cina mahu – sambungan page, I would like to say firstly I have no wish to get dragged in something like that.

        Rather have civil and cordial discussion where we could at least get what the other side is trying to say and me myself get to contribute my own opinions or thoughts regarding issues brought up here. It’s not like we all agree with each other here on everything.

        Have to say having no connections and no special knowledge I stand more to learn from others rather than give back anything here.

        1. Commenter. Do not pretend that you are not an Opposition cybertrooper armed with the necessary know how to duel with me. Why do you not duel with my brother mubarakchan ? Is it because YOU ARE VERBOTEN IN http://www.chedet.cc.org ? Try harder next time.

      2. Commenter. YOU HAVE DOCTORED THE ORIGINAL COMMENT BY MUBARAKCHAN my brother. Try harder next time. You are a liar and a charlatan to boot. Using my brother’s comment and doctored it to twist it into your agenda which is to please the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew with his 9 failed Policies for Singapore. Have some self respect, boy ! Do not twist my brother’s holistic words. HOW MUCH TIME DID YOUR GANG DISCUSS AND DOCTOR THE COMMENT ? Liar

      3. Persistent and repetitive… that is Mr. AK47. Just like the crazy old man at the street corner rambling about impending arrival of Lee Kwan Yew on battle Zeppelins and the Autobot army.

    3. We definitely take our religion seriously, the fundamental is nothing to be joking about and we like to have it served extreme.

      Just because you won’t do the same in believing, in whatever you believe in, doesn’t give you any right to be jealous and keep whining about it. Stay away from the dogma. It would do you more good, trust me on this.

      Sneaky pambu indeed.

  4. Helen,

    Secara peribadinya saya berpendapat OKM juga telah melakukan penghinaan terhadap agama Islam kerana menggunakan ibadah puasa di bulan Ramadhan ini untuk kepentingan politik.

    Amatlah menjijikkan bila seorang kafir meniru ibadah orang Islam untuk mencari publisiti murahan.

    Bukankah ini satu penghinaan kepada orang Islam?

    1. Ong Kian Ming ni – yang lompat dari Insap-MCA ke Sedar-Gerakan and akhirnya bertenggek di pohon DAP 3.0 – ialah kembar ‘seiras’ Hannah Yeoh. Evangelista. Perangai dema memang pandai bermuka-muka.

  5. You can’t deceive all the people for all time. As far as the Trinitarianism of Pauline Christianity is concerned it appears its time is up, for seekers of truth. Jesus the Messiah was not crucified so that his blood will atone for all human sins for all time. Jesus the Prophet of Allah is a great saviour of souls, nonetheless.

    Dr. Jerald Dirks, a scholar of Divinity was in Singapore some years ago. He clarifies Jesus’ original teachings on the Unique Oneness of God on High Most Merciful: About People of the Book from Jesus to Muhammad s.a.w.[YouTube]

    Sheikh Abdul Hakim Murad of Cambridge University: Can the Trinity of the Evangelical Christians be Untangled? [YouTube]

    Welcome to Christian Monotheism:
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  6. The sexploits couple must have gotten their ideas from LKS and his buddies each with a bowl of red beans soup.. (similar pose and sinister smiles with raised spoons).

    Begini rupanya golongan tua2 DAPs memberi teladan kepada generasi muda mereka?

    Bapa borek anak rintik – like father like son.

  7. those malays outside penang who think DAP is good, please come and live here. no need to live in Raja Uda or Weld Quay…, u will feel the chinese invasion. come la, then only u know. tak tipu tak cina (DAP), melayu (who voted DAP) bodo maaa… bolehlah tipu….

    1. Assingkiri,

      Betul tu. Ramai kawan saya dari PAS mendabik dada berkata dibawah PAS, Melayu dan Cina hidup harmoni. Tiada perkauman.

      Saya berkata Kelantan dengan 95% Melayu tentulah tiada orang Cina berani besar kepala. Cuba datang ke Pulau Pinang.

  8. Ms H. The Oppostion abusive and vulgar cybertroopers have finally descended on the Blog. Since I am like the lamp which attracts these ugly moths, let the show begin.
    WHY I AM HERE IN THIS BLOG ? MOTIVE ?
    1. TO DETOX THE INNOCENT AND NAIVE MALAYSIAN BRAINS WHICH HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED BY THE BRILLIANT LEE KUAN YEW WITH HIS 9 FAILED POLICIES FOR SINGAPORE.
    2. TO DO SO, I PRESENT THE TRUE FACTS ON THE BRILLIANT LEE KUAN YEW AND HIS SINGAPORE CULLED FROM SINGAPORE OR OVERSEAS. No lies or Malaysian sources.
    3. THE REASON IS 99 % OF THE CHINESE, MALAYSIAN CHINESE, THINK HE IS A PARAGON OF VIRTUES. Hence, our Malaysian Chinese political problems in Malaysia today.
    4. THROUGH CONSTANT BRAINWASHING OF THESE CHINESE BRAINS THROUGH THE CHINESE MEDIA AND PARTLY THE ENGLISH MEDIA, THE MALAYSIAN CHINESE HAVE BECOME ZOMBIES CONTROLLED FROM OUTSIDE OUR BELOVED MALAYSIA.
    5. THANKS TO http://www.tremeritus.com/2013/07/13/ng-kok-lim-rebuts-sg-embassy-singapore-is-authoritarian WHICH CONFIRMS WHAT I PRESENTED FACTUALLY except CORRUPTION WHICH WAS LEFT OUT IN THEIR LIST.
    6. LIKE HITLER, THE SINGAPOREAN TROJAN HORSE DAP CANNOT WITHSTAND THE TRUTH ABOUT THEIR SPIRITUAL LEADER AND THEIR SPIRITUAL HOME, SINGAPORE. Hence from now onwards, the digits, the cohorts, and the minions will descend to abuse and insult me to chase me away.
    7. COMMONSENSE DICTATES THAT IF I AM NOT SO EFFECTIVE IN PRESENTING THE TRUTH TO ALL OUR FELLOW MALAYSIANS, these Hitlerite stormtroops would not be assigned to wipe me out.
    8. I HAVE THE DISTINCTION OF BEING BANNED FROM ALL THE OPPOSITION BLOGS AND THOSE WHO DO NOT LIKE TDM.

    1. Urm, Uncle, we’re not really particularly hot on LKY here.

      How about you share with us instead your recollections of Tun Tan Siew Sin’s times and the MCA leaders of his era? We can all learn something from oral history.

      1. Ms H. As Malaysian Chinese politics is closely intertwined with the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew with his 9 failed Policies for Singapore, I am sorry that still no one understands the depth of the present Malaysian Chinese political problems caused by this tenuous umbilitcal relationship with Lee Kuan Yew. The Malays understand perfectly.

        I presented all the facts of Lee Kuan Yew because it is obvious HY and commentor are LKY sympathisers who can only be anti-BN and anti-Malay.

        I have already mentioned about the wealthy MCA leadership in a previous comment on this Blog which is factual. I HAVE NOTHING MORE TO ADD TO TUN TAN SIEW SIN.

        1. Perhaps there is a lingering relationship with S’pore but nonetheless I do not get the sense that HY and ‘commentor’ are LKY “sympathisers”. Perhaps it was indeed timely for ‘commentor’ to remind participants that the discussion thread was beginning to get tangled.

          1. Commentor here.

            What AK47 said made me really sad.
            Well I suppose it’s the internet, easy to get messages mixed up unless you state upfront that you are pro BN or pro Pakatan first.
            Now I know one more reason I never voted. My voice never mattered. It’s just a matter of taking which bus and being a passenger to where ever the drivers want to go.

            Eh, whatever.

            First I would like to say I never posted in chedet because I’m too lazy to make up and stick with some log in, user name or password. I just took some comment which I thought will support me bringing forward the question of how long have the business churches started operating and profiting. Either I took the wrong one that happened to be modified by the one posting it, or something else. Seriously, I don’t even know which part of it is modified. I’m not going to be sorry and I’m not going to be dragged into some argument either. I think enough posts have been made to vent the anger.

            I really thought that mubarak chan and AK47 are one and the same. Brothers? Man, surprises come all the time when you don’t expect it.

            1. BTW, it’s my personal opinion that the Pakatan bus will take the passengers off the cliff.

              The problem is sometimes I feel that the BN bus is playing chicken with it.

              This whole Alvin Vivian affair sure feels like it.

            2. “Brothers? Man, surprises come all the time when you don’t expect it.”

              I am sceptical about his claims. Two brothers, over 95, typing in the same style? Multiple personality disorder?

  9. Ms H. How the Singaporean Trojan Horse DAP do it in the Chinese Media ? Do not forget the DAP has no intellect of note except for one who took a short course at Cambridge probably financed by Singapore and another who prides himself going to a Southern American university.

    The Chinese Media has been promoting these guys with lesser intellect and definitely inferior degrees to the BRILLIANT LEE KUAN YEW OF CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSITY AS THOUGH THESE CHAPS ARE AS BRILLIANT OR MORE BRILLIANT THAN THEIR IDOL. The Chinese as you know respects academic brilliance. OK.

    BUT THEN OUT OF THE BLUE A FELLOW LIKE ME CAME ALONG AND CLAIMED THAT HE HAD BETTER ACHIEVEMENT AT THE GATE OF CAMBRIDGE THAN LEE KUAN YEW AND THE DAP CLAIMANTS, this revelation not only upset the DAP but BLEW UP THEIR LIE ON THE BRILLIANT LEE KUAN YEW WITH HIS 9 FAILED POLICIES ALSO.

    1. Ms H. The Singaporean Trojan Horse DAP will be fighting very hard to save their spiritual leader the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew with his 9 failed Policies for Singapore and their spiritual home Singapore. Instead of wasting time over me, may I suggest the DAP spend sometime how to CONQUER OUR BELOVED MALAYSIA FOR THE BRILLIANT LEE KUAN YEW WITH HIS 9 FAILED POLICIES FOR SINGAPORE in ONE EASY STEP ? The DAP failed for 47 long years to deliver a conquered Malaysia to save the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew’s legacy for Singapore. THIS MUST BE AN UTTER EMBARASSMENT FOR THEM. For 47 long years nothing happened ? There are 24 hours in a day, 7 days in a week, and 365 days in a year. 47 long years. HEY! IS THIS THE EFFICIENCY AND MERITOCRACY THE DAP PRACTICES IN OUR BELOVED MALAYSIAN ? Doing nothing ? Nothing happens ? The much flaunted and vaunted dysfunctional meritocratic pyramid of Singapore with the smartest fellow failed miserably. AND TWO SINGAPORE MINISTERS HAD TO ANNOUNCE A NEW POLICY FOR WATERED DOWN MERITOCRACY THIS YEAR !

      1. Ms H. I hope some wisecrack of a playwriter will craft a jolly comedy on this LEE KUAN YEW/PAP/DAP comedy of high ambition and comedy of errors – a political joke of all time !

    2. Ms H. No one has heard of me until 2011 when I first appeared in the Malaysia Chronicles till a friend over there identified me. Then, their cybertroopers became aggressive and I was banned from all the Opposition Blogs. So much meritocracy and freedom of speech for you and me. Where is the Sedition Act ?

  10. UMNO, and by extension BN propaganda machinery is so uncoordinated. Its all just a mind game.

  11. AK47 Sir, I don’t think for someone living to a hundred years of age will be boastful and going around spreading mere lies on others. I would only think that someone that age would only thinks about his past bad deeds and trying to do more of good deeds.

    You surely had some point there especially some of these people here are simply anti BN, UMNO or Malays. Of which, to them one is simply the other!

    My gomen serving civil engineer kawan was telling me last night about the Singaporean consultant appointed by Khalifah LGE to replan Batu Kawan development programmes.

    Expecting the property over there will be super expensive soon, for one, it is to cover the consultant fees and the second to cater to Singaporean wishing to have more-more rumah on the mainland like batu kawan plak. Maybe the seafood there is cheaper.

    Care to comment, Khalifah?

    1. ‘Stone Friend’ no longer friendly lah after this. but I saw that one coming long time ago…, apa nak buat dah melayu penang undi dia. tanggunglah!

  12. I remember it’s the hotel next to the left when you drive highway above nearby Pudu market. I saw the DAP logo.

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