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Another case of ‘He says, She says’ in school

The principal of SMK Alam Megah in Shah Alam is expected to apologize tomorrow to Indian and Chinese students during school assembly for earlier scolding them, “balik India dan China”.

So far, there’s been no public dispute that principal Yati Dani made those remarks. It’s also reported that she has admitted to doing so. — See ”Principal admits to making balik India, China jibe‘ (Malaysiakini, 31 July 2013)

The catch is when in her self-defence, she is claimed to have given the excuse that she had also asked Malay students to “balik Indonesia”.

According to the Malaysiakini report, some parents have disputed the truth of this.

NONE“That’s a lie,” Malaysiakini quoted N Rajeas Rao (picture left) as saying.

“That’s not true at all. I have spoken to my daughter and the (principal) only referred to Indians and Chinese students,” said Rajeas.

Needless to say, the non-Malay public will generally tend to believe the parents and the Malay public will generally tend to believe the teacher.

And this is the state of affairs in Malaysia today.

Yet the opposition, in particular DAP, are great pretenders of colour blindness and the greatest hypocrites in denying that race (and religion) has anything to do with the matter at hand.

No goodwill left

With regard to the SK Seri Pristana canteen saga, it was another case of ‘he says, she says’. This blog’s readers who are predominantly Malay believe the Malay headmaster’s version of the story whereas I am more inclined to credit what’s told by the non-Malay parents although I’m still willing to give the HM some benefit of the doubt.

Unless everyone is still adamant that they are non-partisan (yeah, right) and loudly protesting that they do not harbour any prejudices, then the chips can be expected to fall like this — the oppo followers would disbelieve the establishment that is almost synonymous with Malay, and the ruling party supporters would similarly disbelieve the other side.

With ‘he says, she says’, there can only be an impasse as both sides refuse to extend any good faith to the other.

Previously when my blog said that the oppo people are in “perpetual hysteria” after being carried away by the Jerusubang rhapsody, there were many nods of agreement.

However, when yesterday I said that the Umno supporters are like lemmings in rushing to the defence of the Seri Pristana headmaster, it evoked a (gasp!) Dapsterish reaction among the pro-establishment crowd who like to hang out here.

I had urged readers to think and to consider the ‘facts’ of the whole Seri Pristana episode. This appears to be a tall order.

One example of hostile sentiments among the pro-headmaster following is illustrated below in the retort to forrestcat @ 2013/07/31 at 5:26 pm. (He and antihipokrit @ 2013/07/31 at 8:46 pm are regular commenters.)

forrrestcat

There have been almost 1,000 reader comments in the five preceding discussion threads on the Seri Pristana issue. It is enough in number for the opinions to be examined so that we can make out the trend.

Pelanduk mati di tengah

A number of politicians and pundits have been declaring that racial tensions have peaked to the worst level ever seen in our history since Merdeka. The Chinese will blame Umno and the Malays blame DAP for this.

When gajah sama gajah berjuang, it is the smallest minority who will become the political football. In both the SMK Alam Megah and Seri Pristana controversies, the victims are Indians.

Decidedly, the Malays will give the Chinese no quarter and vice versa. There is endless tit-for-tat … Tanda Putera is met with The New Village. (Please note that the Indians have not produced their movie yet.)

Call it what you will — ethnic conflict, “confrontation” (Dr Mahathir’s description), clash of civilizations – it seems inevitable to happen.

Even in my little blog, there is nothing I can do about the irrationality of my fellow Malaysians who frequent.

So (shrug) I shall just sit on the sidelines, buy popcorn and watch the two extreme fringes tear each other apart.

I will blog as usual and probably bore readers to a less painful death with more pie charts, bar graphs and tables. Statistics don’t lie. People do.

The most useful data today, I feel, is to create a Gullibility Index that measures Malaysians.

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122 thoughts on “Another case of ‘He says, She says’ in school

  1. Aku boleh percaya Pengetua Yati Dani bercakap begitu. Dan aku boleh bayangkan juga mengapa. Dia lepaskan geram yang dah terpendam dalam hatinya sekian lama, bukan dendam kerana bangsa atau agama atau politik tetapi kerana perangai pelajar Cina dan India yang semakin kurang ajar dan keras kepala.

    Aku tak tahu apa sebab sebenar yang buat Pengetua Yati Dani luahkan isi hatinya tetapi tanyalah kepada mana2 guru sekolah menengah. Lima sepupu/saudara/anak buah aku adalah guru berijazah dan mengajar lebih 15 tahun, tiga menyokong Pakatan, dan semua setuju bahawa perangai anak Cina terutamanya cukup kurang ajar, tidak menghormati guru dan susah untuk bercampur gaul dengan pelajar lain.

    1. Kalau begitu, mengapa kebanyakan belia yang terjebak dalam masalah sosial seperti merempit, menghisap dadah, kehamilan bawah umur, rompak dan ragut terdiri daripada belia Melayu?

      1. Aku cakap cerita dalam sekolah le! Budak Melayu pun ada jugak yang kurang ajar tapi yang Cina yang terhebat.

        Kalau masalah sosial kat luar tu aku tak nafikan belia Melayu yang terhandal. Kalau UMNO boleh kontrol dema ni, aku rasa punah Pakatan. Tapi apa nak buat, kebanyakannya sokong Pakatan walaupun besar kemungkinan tak jadi ahli.

      2. No…No…this is misleading…..and has been formally propagated even by the Malay themselves…

        Over the years, I have long tried to correct this misconception..

        Memang yang terlibat dengan masalah sosial tu Org Melayu yang terbanyak sebab mereka merupakan majoriti…tapi kalau dilihat pada statistik…peratusan org Melayu, Org Cina dan India yang terlibat dengan gejala sosial sebenarnya hampir sama…..

        Kalau tak percaya cuba periksa berapa ramai melayu menagih dadah bahagikan dengan berapa ramai melayu yang ada….tengok pulak org cina dengan India…peratusan hampir sama….

        The difference is statistically insignificant….

        Yang hamil bawah umur tu sebab budak melayu ni bodoh! Tak play “safe”. Yang si Cina pandai sikit…main play safe tak ada lah yang mengandung…

        Kalau kita definisikan gejala sosial tu sebagai “buat hubungan XXXX di bawah umur (18 thn ke?) then I doubt that Malay would be on top of the list…

        1. MdSabu, hang tunjuk statistik dulu yang kata masalah sosial belia Melayu ni tak hebat. Aku cemuih dah dengaq dan baca, sana sini semua orang kata Melayu hebat. Kalau Helen nak pikiaq pakai otak matematik dan statistik, aku pun nak ikut jugak, at least dalam blog dia ni…

          1. Ni example: malaysia population: 67.4%(Bumi) 24.6%(Cina) 7.3%(India)

            Now average drug addict (2000 – 2008): 69.3% (Malay) 14.9%(Cina) 10.1%(India)

            Now the representation of each ethnic in the “drug addict” is then:

            1. Cina – 60%
            2. Malay – 97%
            3. India – 138%

            See…Malay does not top the list…..

            What about gambling? sex outside marriage? gangterisme?

            I doubt the Malay would top the list….

            1. Orait, tankyu. Tapi hang lupa nak sebut pasai rempit, ragut dan bohsia. Bukanlah niat aku nak tonjolkan kehebatan orang Melayu, tapi itu pun dalam kategori glamer.

              Dan kalau nak dibandingkan dengan Alvavi dua ekor tu, aku rasa pelakorn amatur Melayu pun tak kurang hebatnya.

              1. Qalam Qabut,

                Rempit, ragut dan bohsia mungkin Malay top…sayangnya tak ada statistik untuk aku buat analisis….

                Point aku sebenarnya hanya nak menunjukkan kat semua…yang melayu ni tak lah teruk sangat…yang Melayu ni sama sahaja dengan bangsa lain…kalau kita kaji betul betul sebenarnya kadar gejala sosial bangsa Melayu tu lebih kurang je dengan Cina/India…

                Ini kebanyakan orang buat “statistikal abuse”…lebih 80% penagih Melayu..lebih 80% banduan adalah Melayu….bila tengok seolah olah teruk sangat Melayu ni….

                Yang aku very dissapointed adalah apabila puak puak nons Malay use that point above to belittle and degrade the Malay…

                contohnya AC-DC kat atas tu…

        2. Gejala Social itu berlaku dikalangan semua kaum :

          1. Bohsia – Dari bahasa cina tapi dewasa ini ianya lebih tertumpu kepada remaja Melayu

          2. Mat Rempit – Remaja Melayu yang mendominasinya tapi jangan kata Remaja Cina dan India tak ikut serta.

          3. Penagihan dadah – semua kaum, tapi dari statistik memang ramai remaja Melayu

          4. GRO – penekanannya lebih diberi kepada perempuan Melayu atas sebab Agama, bagi bangsa lain ianya tak jadi masaalah dan kesalahan bagi mereka; macam kes RASUAH, bagi Melayu dan Islam itu satu dosa tapi bagi bangsa lain itu adalah “business Decision, entertainment allowance, etc”

          5. Gangsterism – Remaja India mendominasinya, itu tak bermakna Melayu dan Cina tidak terlibat;

          6. Along – Remaja Cina Mendominasinya

          7. Jual DVD dan Barang-barang Cetak Rompak – Remaja Cina Mendominasinya;

          Banyak lagi sila tambah.

          1. LOL

            Bab Dadah tu depend on your statistical interpretation…

            In absolute number memang Malay banyak…but I think that is misleading…

            My interpretation would be that the Indians should be on the top…2nd Malay …and third Chinese…

            and I think i have seen it somewhere, that if you corrected it to age bracket, then the difference would be even narrower…

  2. I did not comment at one of your earlier postings as your angle was “if its not the Malay HM’s fault then it must be because its the Malay Architect’s fault … ” which to me was provocative for the sake of being provocative and this contradict with this posting of yours where you said you are willing to give the HM the benefit of the doubt …

    Cases of “He Says, She Says” are common occurance not just in Malaysia but also all over the world and in certain situations, one must admit that one will never know the truth. However, for cases of alleged “racism” in a racially sensitive country like Malaysia, what is more important is for the “interested parties” to come to a reasoned conclusion whether there was malice intended or merely a case of an error in judgment which, unfortunately for this case, was never fully investigated and / or discussed.

    For me, racial awareness in Malaysia is a given, else how could one act without being a racist, and the challenge is for each one of us to rise above the myopic “own community” point of view … in the course of one’s daily action, in all probability, one may overlook but should it be done without malice, why should we make a big hu ha about it? Until one is proven to act with malice, shouldn’t one be presumed innocent rather than guilty? Or is this principle been thrown into the rubbish bin as per so many other “noble” notions / concepts

    Admittedly, am not as good a Muslim as I would liked to be but there are several Islamic teachings which I try to practice and one of them is not to “mengata / mengumpat”

    1. re: “if its not the Malay HM’s fault then it must be because its the Malay Architect’s fault …”

      Elementary my dear Watson. There’s no question at all that the Malays (generally speaking) immediately jumped to taking sides against the Indians. It was an automatic choice so easy to make if the other party was non-Malay/non-Muslim.

      I merely tweaked the equation in that if you all took the HM’s side, the side effect was that by rendering him blameless, some other party could be held at fault (in this case, the JKR also Malay). I did it in the hope of shaking your Malay complacency. Actually my little ploy demonstrated out-of-the-box thinking, don’t you agree?

      re: “which to me was provocative for the sake of being provocative”

      Is “provocative” the best word? How else to poke the herd instinct of Malays rushing to the HM’s defence in defiance of all the holes in his story plot?

      re: “and this contradict with this posting of yours where you said you are willing to give the HM the benefit of the doubt …”

      But I am willing to berbaik sangka (read my very first posting). I wouldn’t say that I 100% disbelieve all that the school had to say.

      However there are Malays all gung-ho belligerently rubbishing whatever the parents had to say and on the contrary, ever so willing to swallow hook, line and sinker the HM’s story.

      re: “whether there was malice intended or merely a case of an error in judgment which, unfortunately for this case, was never fully investigated and / or discussed”

      How to investigate and / or discuss when there is the mentality like some commenters here who dissed me with the accusation that I’m deliberately “prolonging” the issue?

      re: “the challenge is for each one of us to rise above the myopic ‘own community’ point of view

      And as I have pointed out, the victims in the two school cases are Indian which seems to have slipped the notice of the bickering Malays and Chinese.

      re: “Until one is proven to act with malice, shouldn’t one be presumed innocent rather than guilty?”

      Very astute of you to pin down the heart of the matter (“act with malice”). I confess that at the back of my mind I suspect that he did. But like I said, I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt b’cos earlier with the Ibrahim Ali ‘white angpow’ fiasco, at that time, I had indeed thought that IA was being malicious. But with the passage of time and minus the heat of the moment, I’ve moderated my views and believe that it’s possible IA didn’t do it on purpose.

      re: “several Islamic teachings which I try to practice and one of them is not to “mengata / mengumpat”

      Good and fine that you’re saying we shouldn’t mengata the HM but wake up and smell the hate campaign being conducted by Malays against the Indian parent.

      1. agree that hate campaigns against the Indian parent isn’t right, and am glad you brought it up. I’m always disturbed when people choose to spread pictures of said ‘offender’ around for the mob to lynch. Things are messed up enough, it isn’t the time to play tit for tat.

        1. ‘the hate campaign being conducted by Malays against the Indian parent.’

          The hate campaign was started by the Indian parent themselves when they chose to throw in race and religions into the picture. The Malays simply reacted to the initial instigation.

          Why I’m not surprised, probably we can start with Surat Hindraf Kepada Brown, what say you?

          1. i’m aware of how it started, and trust me, I’m one of the more staunch supporter of Seri Pristana’s HM because I honestly think he was wrongly vilified without a fair trial. I’m actually still quite pissed when I think of how people would judge him straightaway without fair judgement and the same people can turn around and be all ‘let’s not judge! let’s be fair’ when it comes to Chetz Yusof issue. I’m aware that the Indian parent was originally wrong in portraying it as a race and religion race – i;ve been reiterating this very thought again and again to people who’ve been hellbent on making out Seri Pristina HM as a racist devil bent on persecuting young children.

            what I’m saying is that in leading the same hate campaign (as the Indian parent had done) against her, (by posting photos of her and getting people to retaliate) isn’t exactly the right .. either, you know? It becomes a case of escalation – you launch hate campaign against me, I raise you up by one hate bar, and so on, and so on…

            where does it stop?

      1. Helen, I’m equally surprised you let capitalised F… you posted, knowing how strict you moderated this blog of yours? Trying to prove a point, Helen?

      1. kak mar,

        If the situation merit, nor ‘s comment is valid. Enough of each sides pushing each other to the limit and there will be no enough to verbal confrontation and late we are seeing “physical”.

        Just ask any Indonesian Chinese nowadays about the after effect of their experience. I am not condoning this, but my limit is “ONCE YOU CROSS THE LINE” i.e. menghina ISLAM.

          1. At the current boliling point racial tension, just a matter of time kaum mana yang mula dulu. In May 13 1969 racial riot, a Chinese killed a Malay in KL and after that all hell broke loose!

  3. wait till this will reach it’s peak… mesti melayu naik gila.. cina naik gila.. india naik gila.. semua gaduh mati semua.. end of malaysia.. who to blame.. malaysian stupid politician.

    1. you see that is the problem….when it reach its peak, I doubt that everybody will “mati”….if this “gila” do occur (I hope not) the minority is the one that will be hit the most…

      And you know who the minority is…Cina/India…

      This is fact…..

  4. Itulah Helen, hujan emas di negeri orang, hujan batu di negeri sendiri. Baik juga negeri sendiri.

    Saya tidak kisah kalau orang kata, ” pergi balik Sumatera! ”
    Berdasarkan sejarah, Indonesia, Malaysia malah Filipina adalah kawasan Nusantara atau Kepulauan Melayu.

    Hanya apabila Barat datang menjajah dan buat kacau maka terpisahlah kawasan ini dalam aspek politik . Sekarang kawasan ini terpecah menjadi Malaysia, Indonesia dan Filipina.

    Sungguhpun begitu bagi diri saya, masih merasakan Indonesia sebagai negeri dekat dengan jiwa. Nostalgia terhadap Filipina lain sedikit. Memang terasa rasa ‘jauh’ dengan Filipina kerana berlainan agama.

    1. I also don’t mind if non-Malays were to tell me ‘balik Indonesia’ and there is nothing to be ashamed of as we (Malaysian & Indonesians) are serumpun. I don’t know why the Chinese are sensitive about ‘balik Cina’ and yet they want to maintain their Chineseness such as sekolah Cina, preserve their Chinese language and custom, so on and so forth. The same goes with the Indians. If you want to be truly Malaysians, you should emulate what the Chinese in Thailand, the Phillipines and Indonesia have done ie assimilation. Change your name, speak BM and for the Chinese quit thinking that you are superior or smarter than the other races. Can you people do that? Then only we the Malays can forgo our special rights and privileges.

      1. We had forego a lot already, without even foregoing the special rights and other privileges. By they becoming better Malaysians with better command of the national language etc does not make us, the Malays, want or should be wanting to forego the special rights and privileges!

  5. kalau berbicara pasal politik….semua ini kurang dengar semasa zaman TDM (kurang atau media tidak melaporkan)

    hanya bila Anwar keluar penjara semua menjadi kelam kabut. setiap org menjadi bersifat perkauman.

    semua ini akan berterusan sekiranya ada yg tidak boleh menerima hakikat kekalahan. ada yg nak jadi hero kaum tertentu.

    tiba masanya kesabaran akan digantikan dengan amukan.

  6. Dear Helen,

    What we are seeing now is a reaction of both polarities. I expect going forward it’ll get worse. Why? Its the Internet and the liberal values we’re adapting to. I was reading Times the other day and do think the current fissure is in a great part due to the advent of Internet/social media. We used to be circumspect and keep things private. Now everyone think they own the world, becoming more nacarcisstic and have no inkling that what they do have a reaction. They are reality tv ready thinking that others want to see them.

    So what’s happening now is everyone posts thoughts and views as to what they think it should be. Being abusive or vulgar are not an issue. Being racist and highly aggressive are not an issue as well.

    So the advent of Internet has opened the pandora box on being racial. The non Malays are becoming more assertive. This to me is an expected reaction and to a large extent its acceptable . But then I think DAP pushed it too far left when they pushed the Malaysian first agenda cloaking the Chinese interest. Suddenly everyone becomes racist and they become the saint. The pru 13 thus showed the true colours.

    So what we’re seeing is a reaction from the right. The Malays will be more and more assertive and consequently the non Malays (generally the Chinese) too. Both have and will become hyper sensitive. This does not bid well. The Chinese is epitomized by dAP and Malay ( to a lesser degree UMNO). Issues of race and religion will become more and more prominent and these parties becoming more racial in outlook.

    What should we do in moving forward? We should adopt what we have done in the past. We recognise each other differences and compromise. We acknowledge we live together and thus be sensitive and emphathize with the other. That’s what we should do.

    But to do this, DAP must stop the hypocrisy that they fight for all malaysians in particular the Malays. No Malay sees that except the syok sendiri DAP supporters. Mca is too weak now.

    We must admit that we are racial in our everyday life. Issues after issues come from a deepening sense of racial character. DAP must recognise this. DAP Chinese must recognise that they don’t fight for the Malays and thus stop proclaiming they’re Malaysians more than Malays when they’re the same. And by all means stop this racist accusation.

    Why must DAP do this? Because de facto they are the current Chinese standard bearer. Because by doing so then we all can come for a compromise. How? Ill write later as this is too long. But if they don’t do, there’s no more meaningful discussion. We will have Umno (and in fact PAS also) moving more to the right with race and religion and DAP moving to the left with Malaysian first concept cloaking the ethnic interest. With DAP’s insistence that they are not racial when they are, how are we to meet in mid point. This believe in high moral standing and accusing others racist, will never see the need for DAP to compromise.

    Until then we are doomed into deeper polarization.

    1. That’s why the BN formula has been the right path from the beginning of this nation. All voices can be heard despite one race being lesser (in numbers) than the other. Malaysians have to do away with hypocrisy. We have always put race above everything else. Be it in school, or workplace, or even when we’re socializing.

      1. While I may disagree that it is the “right path”, I would argue that PR is offering nothing new with their path but maybe leaving Indians out of the equation in favour of consolidating the tenuous relationships between the Chinese and Malays, already strained with class and religious tensions.

        The problem is always putting “race above everything else”. Even with this system if there were principles that were placed above race and acknowledged and implemented in “fair” manner, we could have moved (eventually) beyond race.

        Neither BN nor PR are interested in doing this because at the end of the day, the quest to maintain hegemony outweighs the goal of redefining race relations in this country.

        I had a talk with an UMNO friend yesterday when he discovered my participation on this blog. “Conrad” is a nickname close friends gave me during my teen years (although I remember it quite differently).

        He was telling me of his disdain of the BTN courses he attended and how the beauty of it was that it tapped latched on to the instinctive communal fears, that he (as a Malay ) felt.

        This got me thinking of how the DAP’s propaganda works in much the same way. Most DAP supporters think they have been part of an apartheid like system. They are “second class” citizens and that former PM Mahathir is the Lord Sauron.

        What they fail to realize is that Malaysia – is the what….the 36 power house economy in the world ? – and this is not some banana republic. The System with all it faults and the communities with all its squabbling in the end does have some sort of equilibrium that propelled us to this stage.

        Now why you may ask do I signal out the DAP ? The answer as I have stated many times is that they define the urban middle class expectation. The urban vote is the PR vote base. PKR and PAS are certainly not spearheading this agenda.

        1. Conrad,

          I attended a BTN course long time ago. May i share the experience.

          The course that i attended did not try to create fear among the participants. Instead, it merely told the history of the nation. Meaning Malysia as it is today due to history of the past.

          But of course it talked a lot about Malays as naturally this land is called previously Persekutuan Tanah Melayu.This is not racism. Rather, it was a short course of history.

          From they course I began to understand why Malay rejected “Malaysian Malaysia” by Lee Kuan Yew. From the course, I was able to understand why the Constitution clearly said about preferential quota to Malays in civil service, scholarship, position of Islam sand so on.

          There is nothing racist about it. Rather as acknowledgement for Malays as they agreed to en bloc citizenship by scale unheard of back then and now still unmatched. Immediately from land being exclusively Malays becomes Multi racial.

          That these people( Malays) are now labelled racist. Simply because they defend their rights as enshrined in Constitution.

          1. Yup, you are right Shamsul. The nons’ rights to keep their names, practice their religions, customs and traditions are also enshrined in the Constitution. The problem now is they want us, the Malays to forgo our rights and privileges but they are not willing to compromise theirs’. Is this fair?

            1. Fair point. Has it got something to do with us not understanding each other better? Like going to different school, mingling with different friend of same skin colour, and such. Whither Malaysia?

              1. Ajay,

                Yes. That’s why I think vernacular schools should be abolished. But the quality of SK should be upgraded. Subjects like Science and Maths should be taught in English and the rest in BM. When the Malay Muslim students have Agama class, the non-Muslims can have their respective language classes.

              2. Well, I am not for vernacular schools, so my opinion on this is a little biased. I think we generally get on fairly well, but I do think, that the System pits us against each other and that politicians are of no help.

  7. Lets not play their game Helen. Malays are in BN, PAS, PKR and DAP so are the Indians many in oppo too.

    Why suddenly pitching Malays agst Indians?

    DAP CEC fiasco wth ROS, theres even booklets circulating on this cheatings etc and everyone seems extra ordinarily toooooo quiet even you sendiri takder any article on this?

    And the Zong dong kong duk tengah berperang against intro of Pendidikan punya apake benda additional hours for BM and BI…… so now we begin to get alerts about this and that Sekolah Kebangsaan schools… KARUT le!

    Next we will hear from schoolkids will be “the GM of this SK asking Timbuktu kids to eat taik dan minum air kencing” pulak, bangsa Timbuktus akan melenting sekali lagi. KARUT le you all ni!

    I am getting very suspicious NOW?,

    1. That’s right, the HM should just ask the Chinese balik China and leave the Indian alone. The Malay and Indian should unite to fight against Chinese.

      1. “That’s right, the HM should just ask the Chinese balik China”

        Frankly, If you ask most Malays, they would say the same…it is just that most us prefer to stay silence so much so we have been labelled as “TIDAK APA” attitude people. As I have mentioned many times, when one of us says our piece it will never sound pretty.

        Prior to PRU13 and even long before that I have had several conversation “YANG MENYAKITKAN HATI” with CINA DAP from closed friends to Taxi Drivers. More often than not, I chose to keep quiet or just smile sarcastically. There a couple of occasion when I choose to use my one-liner reply, they just went berserk and called me racist.

        For the Malays, just remember this “There is a good reason why Singapore is separated from Malaysia i.e to remind all of us that if the table were turn, the Chinese would not give a hoot about us Malay what more the Indian. And now Pulau Pinang is the prime example.

        For Cina DAP, just remember this “Let the Indonesia 1997-1998 Indon-Chinese Clash Be A Lesson to all of you”.

        Helen,

        Why didn’t you include this news as well:

        “Berita yang mengejutkan dan mengecewakan kepada warga pendidik! Seorang guru berbangsa Cina di Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan Gelang Patah telah menghina pelajar Melayu sebagai “Melayu Bodoh! Melayu Babi! Melayu Bangang! Melayu Sial dan Melayu Pukimak!””

        http://khairulryezal.blogspot.com/2013/05/poh-kim-thye-guru-sekolah-menengah.html

      2. And after that, it will be easier to deal with the Indians and put them in their place, right?

        Expect them to not complain, and just grin and bear it when ordered to use the school shower rooms as a dining hall, right?

        The majority of Seri Pristana’s pupils were Indian. There were only a handful of Chinese. Still, that did not stop the school management from closing the canteen and making those pupils eat in a shower room.

          1. AC-DC,

            Hmm, you main hentam saja without checking! The majority pupils of Seri Pristana are Malays lah, bongok!

  8. Helen,
    Cina, India dan Melayu hipokrit kena belajar Sejarah Melayu Nusantara (Penekanan: MELAYU NUSANTARA). Melayu Nusantara bukan Malaysia sahaja, Tanah Melayu Malaysia adalah sebahagian Melayu Nusantara (MALAY archipelago). Melayu Nusantara welcome pedagang Cina, India dan Arab untuk melakukan transaksi di keseluruhan kepulauan Melayu Nusantara. Betapa baiknya Melayu.

    Cikgu tidak setuju dengan HM Yati Dani yang terlepas cakap supaya Cina dan India pergi balik negeri masing2. Tidak adil buat kenyataan begitu. Bagi cikgu, profesion perguruan adalah tugas mulia dan perlu dihormati. Tetapi masyarakat kena faham pentadbiran sekolah ini (SM Tmn Alam Megah) sering diserang oleh kaum India yang rasis, banyak komplain tetapi tidak pernah mahu sama2 membantu membangunkan sekolah. Wakil MIC kawasan ini pandai temberang sahaja sebab itu bila NAjib letak MIC bertanding calon Parlimen kawasan ini dalam PRU13 lalu, habis lebur BN. Sebab masyarakat ALam Megah 100% tak percaya lagi dengan temberang MIC yg terlalu rasis menjaga kepentingan kaum India sahaja. Masyarakat Cina, Melayu dan Bengali kawasan ini terabai. Sekarang, tiba2 MIC nak jadi champion!

    Lagi sekali cikgu tekankan, HM Yati silap besar. Mungkin HM Yati dah tak boleh tahan, terlalu stressful dengan perangai mak-bapak pelajar dan pelajar sendiri. Kita masyarakat umum perlu Fahami tugas dan tekanan guru2 sekolah. Usah berterusan menghentam mereka.

    Helen,
    Cikgu teringat, kisah laksamana Lim GUan Eng, satu ketika dulu, menyuruh MAMAK Penang balik India. LGE tersilap cakap macam HM Yati Dani ke….? Ada MIC ambil peduli kes mamak Penang..?

    1. Waktu tu si laksamana Lim Guan Eng bertaraf Adun. Sekarang setpol tersebut sudah naik pangkat menjadi Ahli Parlimen.

      Malah pembantu peribadi Hannah Yeoh pun boleh diangkat parti DAP 3.0 untuk menjadi Adun. DAP mempraktikkan amalan kronisme yang begitu tebal sekali.

  9. Helen,
    Cikgu nak tambah sikit lagi. Isu SK Sri Pristina dan SM TAM adalah berbeza. Bagi cikgu, HM SK Sri Pristina dianiaya sebab tu cikgu tidak setuju tindakan tatatertib diambil terhadap beliau. Ada saluran rasmi yg ibubapa boleh suarakan jika tidak puashati dengan pentadbiran sekolah bukan dgn menyebar fitnah dan buruk sangka dengan upload gambar dan menghemburkan kata2 rasis dlm laman sosial. Perangai meng upload gambar boleh menyebabkan racial tension, sedangkan cikgu yakin tindakan HM Sri Pristina dibuat dgn good intention.

    Tetapi kes HM Yati SM TAM ni agak berat yang cikgu amat tidak setuju. Cikgu percaya ramai orang Melayu juga sependapat dengan cikgu.

    Cuma cikgu tak suka DAP dan MIC membakar perkara ini atas kepentingan politik perkauman Cina dan India. HM Yati sudah melanggar peraturan Kementerian dan serahkan Kementerian Pelajaran untuk mengambil tindakan disiplin (Jika didapati benar, sahih dan bukan untuk menganiaya HM Yati).

  10. quote, “The most useful data today, I feel, is to create a Gullibility Index that measures Malaysians.” unquote.

    Make sure you include yourself in the statistics for the creation of your Gullibiilty Index.

  11. Helen

    hmm….another downward spiral…..

    Everyone has to take a side…I will have to go with the HM also said “Malay balik Indonesia”.

    (although I dont know why my Kedahan or Kelantanese brother would have to do the same as they have not even migrated from Indonesia err…did Indonesia even exist back then?… I presume China is there back then and India?)

    I dont think there is end to this….let us watch…

  12. quote, “However, when yesterday I said that the Umno supporters are like lemmings in rushing to the defence of the Seri Pristana headmaster, it evoked a (gasp!) Dapsterish reaction among the pro-establishment crowd who like to hang out here.”unquote.

    After all the 1000 over comments to your blogs about the Seri Pristana issue, you came to the conclusion that ALL Umno supporters couldnt think. A revelation of what you actually think of them.

    Obviously you failed to realise and recognize that there were another group of Umno supporters who did not side with the HM, that included me (go read comments from the likes of Cikgu Kampong, kak mar, etc.). You hardly responded to the comments from those who ‘could think’ and who advocated for peaceful end of this issue. But you got the nerve to say that, I quote, “Even in my little blog, there is nothing I can do about the irrationality of my fellow Malaysians who frequent.” Have you ever thought for a moment that it was you who was irrational and was obsessed with prolonging the Seri Pristana issue?

    My stand on this issue has been that we should move on and learn from this unfortunate episode and not repeat it. The HM had already apologized, the Dep Minister had already declared that the issue had been resolved, the makeshift canteen had been closed and the allegedly downtrodden, discriminated ‘poor’ non-Muslim students at that school had been allowed to eat in the canteen. I asked that you used your wide influence in this cyberworld to call for a donation drive to raise cash for the school so that the poor HM could use it to enlarge the canteen, but instead you shifted and pointed your gun to JKR and the poor architects for the supposedly poor planning of the school buildings.

    It’s disappointing to see your final reaction over the issue, and I quote you, “So (shrug) I shall just sit on the sidelines, buy popcorn and watch the two extreme fringes tear each other apart.”, after your unfair and unfounded attacks and assessments of the HM, the PTA, those who buka puasa in the makeshift canteen, the JKR, the poor architects, the UMNO supporters who you alleged only have pea brains, etc. I could see the ‘batu-api’ side of you more clearly now.

    Your ranting, I quote you “I will blog as usual and probably bore readers to a less painful death with more pie charts, bar graphs and tables. Statistics don’t lie. People do.” is typical reaction of a blogger who is not able to win over the majority of his/her commenters of the issue he/she’s championing. Also becareful when you want to derive statistics, because the statistics WILL LIE if the statisticians are incompetent or biased or have a hidden agenda when cooking up the satistics. Remember that some of the couldnt-think-Umno supporters who read your blog could be very proficient in Math and Statistics.

    I have said enough.

    1. Setem, Setem …

      re: “you came to the conclusion that ALL Umno supporters couldnt think”

      I said those who rushed like lemmings. This is specific. I did not use the word “all” at all.

      re: “You hardly responded to the comments from those who ‘could think’ and who advocated for peaceful end of this issue.”

      With 1,000 comments to moderate, isn’t it understandable that I only responded to dissenting comments such as yours?

      re: “But you got the nerve to say that, I quote, ‘Even in my little blog, there is nothing I can do about the irrationality of my fellow Malaysians who frequent.’ Have you ever thought for a moment that it was you who was irrational and was obsessed with prolonging the Seri Pristana issue?”

      I do not consider anyone to be irrational if they disagree with me on the Seri Pristana issue. However it is irrational to make personal attacks of wild accusations against me just because they disagree with me.

      re: “The HM had already apologized”
      But he went back to the school during his leave and snapped photographs of the Indian kids.

      re: “the Dep Minister had already declared that the issue had been resolved”
      The Dep Minister is mistaken as his BN counterpart, ex-Minister Noh Omar is “prolonging” it.

      re: “the makeshift canteen had been closed”
      Only b’cos the Ministry ordered it to be done. If the Indian mother hadn’t complained, the makeshift canteen would still be open.

      re: “the allegedly downtrodden, discriminated ‘poor’ non-Muslim students at that school had been allowed to eat in the canteen”
      Now they are.

      re: “I asked that you used your wide influence in this cyberworld to call for a donation drive to raise cash for the school”
      The Dep Minister already donated RM10,000 and the Education Ministry has approved an extension to the canteen which means that the budget is okay-ed and the renovation work has just commenced (I read in yesterday’s media).

      re: “but instead you shifted and pointed your gun to JKR and the poor architects for the supposedly poor planning of the school buildings”
      No, the JKR implication is a logical outcome of making the HM faultless. He claimed the canteen was “too small”. So who planned the canteen so badly that it was too small?

      Rather than saying I pointed my gun at the JKR, I was instead being thoughtful about protecting the professional reputation of the architect as otherwise he would be labelled as that lousy JKR architect who failed to properly design a gomen school canteen.

      re: “after your unfair and unfounded attacks and assessments of the HM, the PTA, those who buka puasa in the makeshift canteen, the JKR, the poor architects, the UMNO supporters who you alleged only have pea brains, etc.”

      Those who buka puasa in the makeshift canteen (the staged photo) made fools of themselves without any help from me.

      re: “Remember that some of the couldnt-think-Umno supporters who read your blog could be very proficient in Math and Statistics.”
      I like Malay bloggers who feature stats. That’s why I’ve been linking Oik and Dah Ikhwan viz. several of their postings here. I wish they would write more often.

      re: “I have said enough.”
      Enough to reveal yourself.

        1. Setem drew first blood.

          So the same applies: “Wow, Setem suddenly know Helen inside out?”

              1. Aiyah Helen letih la, you pick and choose what you want to discuss.

                Last time you asked me to provide url link on sekolah vernakular legitimacy. I bagi url perbincangan blog yang jelas kupas sama ada isu bahasa rasmi etc. You senyap sampai sekarang.

                Baru-baru ni you suruh saya buktikan pasal Hindraf acting foreign dan tuduh Indians kena genocide, you suruh bagi bukti, saya bagi surat Hindraf hantar sama Brown, you sampai sekarang bo respon wor? an chua? sein ohh…

  13. Helen,

    Once a suspicious mind has been made up, no amount of facts will relieve it to be otherwise. And in in this case I am saying this after reading both your column regarding this, issue Setem’s piece as well as your reply to his comment.

    I express surprise at your statements—the “revelations of the real you”—as Setem put it. Firstly you say those who buka puasa in the makeshift canteen were staged, making them make a fool of themselves. Why do you say this? What evidence do you have, or have you, much in the manner of the DAPsters that you so frequently criticize, become conveniently slanderous… at least in this “malay-versus-anyone-else” fiasco?

    Let’s say they make a special photo-shoot just for this case. And I can believe that that may be rightly so: for why would anyone want to break their fast away from the comforts of their own homes and eat in said bilik persalinan? But nevertheless, the aim have been achieved, meaning to demonstrate to the public that there’s nothing detrimental or downgrading eating therein. When a British reporter interviewed a former Prime Minister of India on why would a nation of hindus take it as an element of faith to drink cow urine, said statesman told the reporter that he himself drink a pint a day, and proceeded to drink a glass of it in front of the newsman.

    Is this a diabolical “staged” act, would you say, or just a demonstration of how a ruling tenet can and should be followed by the public if the lawmaker himself personally experiences its harmlessness?

    Helen, when you keep on harping UMNO, UMNO here, you achieve nothing except parroting the LimKitSiang technique of swaying issues over to a favourite bogeyman. Have you not forgotten how the ROS fiasco has been broadcasted by KitSiang as “the cahoots of a ROS-UMNO plot to dismember DAP” whence, with due respect, it wasn’t UMNO who had written to the ROS and asked the DAP to be investigated, but rather members of the DAP themselves?

    Or perhaps you didn’t care to read what Mazidul Akmal reports in his blog, when, going to the actual school himself and interviewing students and asking how many of the malay students had eaten in the premises concerned, there was a shower of hands?

    And this “balik Indonesia” thing is new. Have you been thinking all along like this? Perhaps you are one of those who unflinchingly believe that Hang Tuah and Hang Jebat were actually chinese just because … ehmm…. you can breakdown these names into 3-syllable Hokkien-sounding names? And perhaps by now you would have thought what to say about Hang Kas-tu-ri? Really, Helen. You write well, but erudition in thoughts and writings should not make way to bigot-based, error-prone, ethno-centric provocative new-age historical theoreties just because u belong to this ethnicity who wants things to be true despite the fact they aren’t. Surely Prof Khoo Kay Kim can’t be wrong too?

    Oh okay perhaps you mean the malays balik Indonesia because, well, the entire malay archipelago, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines included are just one big unit of indigenous conglomerate? Just like telling the Hong Kongese to go back to China? Still if it is, it wouldn’t be right if it gives the allusion that “Hoi Hong Kongese, we British partly share this island. If you tell us to go balik Britain, we can also tell you all to go balik China”. Something crispy albeit sound sounding there, isn’t it? Hong Kong IS China!

    Marking Bagpie

    1. re: “Is this a diabolical “staged” act, would you say, or just a demonstration of how a ruling tenet can and should be followed by the public if the lawmaker himself personally experiences its harmlessness?”

      They ate in The Room only AFTER the uproar. If the adults had shared in the experience before the shit hit the fan, then I wouldn’t have questioned their act.

      re: “Helen, when you keep on harping UMNO, UMNO here”

      Umno wrt to the commenters in my blog and campaigns by the Umno bloggers and the statement by Selangor Umno liaison chief Noh Omar. Not wrt any imputed Umno operation by the school administrators.

      re: “Or perhaps you didn’t care to read what Mazidul Akmal reports in his blog, when, going to the actual school himself and interviewing students and asking how many of the malay students had eaten in the premises concerned, there was a shower of hands?”

      Thanks. I keep this in mind.

      re: “Oh okay perhaps you mean the malays balik Indonesia”

      You appear confused. It was the principal Yati Dani who is alleged to have scolded her Malay students to balik Indonesia.

      The parallel between the two cases as follows:

      (a) Indian and one Chinese pupils eating in The Room. Uproar by the nons.

      Oh but wait. Malay pupils had earlier eaten in the room too. So what’s there to be angry about since all the 3 races are given equal treatment.

      (b) Indian and Chinese students are asked to “balik India dan China”. Uproar by the nons.

      Oh but wait. Malay students were purportedly told to balik Indonesia too at the same time. So what’s there to be angry about since all the 3 races are treated no differently.

      When the SMK Alam Megah principal was criticized for her “balik India/China” remarks, she reportedly countered that she had scolded the Malay students in the same way.

      Frankly, I find her “balik Indonesia” excuse/defence hard to swallow.

      However, as I’ve stated before, I’m willing to give the Seri Pristana principal the benefit of the doubt since the facts to have emerged are scanty, in addition to contradictory.

      But even so, the Malay reactions, i.e. the aggressive hate campaigns mounted against the Indian mother and other Indian parents is simply deplorable.

      And as another commenter here (‘AC-DC’) has pointed out, it was an Indian parent who raised the alarm but the knee-jerk response by angry and defensive Malays was immediately directed at the Chinese. This despite the fact that as far as I can make out from the various media reports, there are 28 non-Malay pupils in Seri Pristana — 25 Indian, only one Chinese, one Orang Asli and one (??)

      1. ‘But even so, the Malay reactions, i.e. the aggressive hate campaigns mounted against the Indian mother and other Indian parents is simply deplorable.’

        The Indian mother of throwing in Malay and Allah for good effect is definitely deplorable but hardly gets your mention?!

        You don’t expect the Malays to give the Indian mother some laddu for her remarks on Malay and Allah, do you?

        1. Please share the comments that she made about Allah and Malays. Thanks.

          As far as I’m aware, her argumentative method of invoking the kalimah Allah (I dunno what her comment/s on Melayu are) was annoying but not outright insulting or offensive.

          1. Please see it for yourself Helen. I myself felt insulted by the remarks. I believe I had posted her remarks on other threads for more than once.

            1. islam1st,

              From your link, it appears that the Indian mother had said:

              “My dear Malay friends do you think this fair? Can ur Allah accept this?”

              So for her remarks above, she receives death threats for purportedly challenging the Malay special position and insulting Islam.

              Nice.

              1. Nice one indeed, Helen. Oh come on, I did not say that she was challenging the Malay special position. You can copypaste and we can discuss this further. Perhaps I need to be reminded of my own postings and by all means please do so.

                Although I believe she had insults Muslims and Islam by pulling Allah into the picture, I believe she should be charged for seditious. Nothing more. Nothing less. So Helen, be classy indeed. We don’t want to ape those we hated, do we?

                From my links also she had mention ‘my child in mess at Malay School.’

                Now why would her child suffering at a school be equated with Melayu or Sekolah Melayu? It is not even one! Just because the HM is Melayu does not make us all berdosa with her to the extent of making her starts questioning us and the One True God that we worship upon?

                Are we looking at the same pic, Helen?

                1. I did not say that “you” had accused her of challenging the Malay special position.

                  My sentence read:

                  “So for her remarks above, she receives death threats for purportedly challenging the Malay special position and insulting Islam.”

                  Obviously I don’t think that “you” sent her the death threats. So why should I in the same breath (same sentence) imply that you specifically accused her?

                  In the big picture and considering the uproar everywhere, she was indeed accused by the mainly pro-establishment Malays of doing both.

                  re: “Just because the HM is Melayu does not make us all berdosa with her to the extent of making her starts questioning us and the One True God that we worship upon?”

                  It is not because of the HM alone that the Indian woman is in the news. Just do a quick survey of how many Malay bloggers have posted hate writings against her. So why shouldn’t she start questioning Malays instead of just question the HM? She has complained that her daughter is now being bullied in school.

                  1. I don’t think the daughter should be treated as such, period. But I surely can see why the mother have hate writing posted on her. By invoking Allah and Malay to her fancy, what is she insinuating?

    2. I agree with most of your point and I like it……

      and yes Helen did not say “Malay balik Indonesia”.

      This one here “Just like telling the Hong Kongese to go back to China? Still if it is, it wouldn’t be right if it gives the allusion that “Hoi Hong Kongese, we British partly share this island. If you tell us to go balik Britain, we can also tell you all to go balik China”

      Perhaps like the newly settled mainland Chinese in Singapore, who now shares the Singapore with the native…. telling the native Singaporean (Melayu,Cina, India) “pi balik Malaysia!”

    3. what sort of absurd analogy is this? hong kong official name is “Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of the People’s Republic of China”, r we “Malaysia Special Administrative Region of the Republic of Indonesia”?

  14. Why I do not like the insularity of the Chinese politically and socially, my concern among the Malay community is emerging totok Arab mindset best described by the PAS and ISMA horde.

    Blogger Annie was right to point that Malays were Muslim for 8 centuries despite our tight kebayas, our women tudungless but in modest floral attire and we underwent centuries of colonization, we were always loyal Muslims. Now the PAS and ISMA bigots, through narrow minded headmasters, crazy sex maniac ustaz Azhar Idrus and lunatic hypocrit Malay men with dirty beards and ketayaps are chastising Malays into an alien arab culture that is currently the most fucked up people on Earth, they forgot, Islam is not Arab.

    Islam was consoling temple of the soul to be grateful of what we have that is the epitomy of the humble Malay character.

    I am born Muslim and proud of it just as im proud of my Bugis and Minang and Malay heritage, but day by day, I see Malays snipe each over halal haram, character assasination of Malay woman joining beauty contest, spreading fake hadiths and using murtad on each other, making normal Malays feel bad for listening to Western Music instead of Maher Zain, for trying to be normal!!!.

    The humble Malays were always amused and enticed by foreign people and cultures, which enabled us to adopt angpaus and Indian/chinese delicacies and fashion fold them into our every day lives and festivities.

    Now all Melayus gila nak pakai baju karung guni Arab, baju ninja Taliban, uglsify themselves with stinking beard, remove urinals because they think devils take bath in it and eat Chicken and Lamb Mandy to show how Muslim they are.

    They say Malays 50 years ago were bad Muslim because they hafal Koran, but now, lagi teruk, baca dan ikut hadith palsu, then follow crap from Nik Aziz and sex maniac Ustaz Azhar Idrus, Koran tak baca pun.

    1. Whoa you must be either too racist or have some sort of vendetta against the ARAB…or some bad history with them…or….

      I dont think the Malays look up anymore to their Arabs counterpart with all the exposure nowadays…

      Some women are doing the ARAB “culture” because its a trend…you know,…. latest fashion they said…

      That chicken Mandy is actually delicious…I love it….

      1. Yeah some women do but looks at those fashion man. No ARAB will found dead in those get up. Even my ARAB girfriend said the Malay take our custume and change it to be so beautiful. She speculate that in her country the designer who make this changes can get charge for making the women focus point to a man… By the way she already adepting this style which still show her as ARAB but with glamourous bling-bling and colourful clothes…

        :D sarah

        1. yeah exactly…the true arab punya mana ada those bling bling….

          The modified Malay punya to me…Not bad at all….

          Yang lelaki, geng geng ustaz je….pakai fesyen macam tu…majoriti tak ada pakai….

          1. ‘Whoa you must be either too racist or have some sort of vendetta against the ARAB…or some bad history with them…or….’

            Perhaps he had been reading too much of OutSyed and subscribe to it word by word. Just maybe. Maybe not.

            ‘Some women are doing the ARAB “culture” because its a trend…you know,…. latest fashion they said…’

            Exactly, the Malays had made abayas their own. Most arab women tend to be wearing black abayas and the last time I check, some mamaks are donning the black abayas. Not one syed complaint of them turning into arabs?

    2. Re.; “Now all Melayus gila nak pakai baju karung guni Arab, baju ninja Taliban, uglsify themselves with stinking beard, remove urinals because they think devils take bath in it and eat Chicken and Lamb Mandy to show how Muslim they are.”

      Please refrain from giving any comment on this if you haven’t read enough about SUNNAH : ” the body of Islamic custom and practice based on Prophet Muhammad’s (pbuh) words and deeds”

      Just like you, I am a Muslim and Malay. Everyday I try to learn a thing or two about Islam including the Sunnah.

      This is a very good article about “Sunnah Nabi Berpakaian”

      Erti kebebasan budaya, fesyen dalam Islam

      http://www.sinarharian.com.my/karya/entri-blog/erti-kebebasan-budaya-fesyen-dalam-islam-1.178393

      1. LOL,

        May i shed some lights about “sunnah Nabi”.

        Nabi Muhammad SAW was born in Mecca way back 14 centuries ago. He was a messenger. The last of the prophet.

        Muslims who say “syahadah” will mention that He (Prophet Muhammad SAw) as the messenger .

        But Prophet Muhammad SAW was also an Arab , born and bred in Arab land.

        The beauty of Islam is that it does not emphasize the “arabness” of prophet. Islam is liberal on dressing so long as it follows the requirement on “aurat”.

        As such, it is allowed to dress in Baju Melayu, or flowing Arab robe or with coat and tie as practised in Western world.

        Many are mistaken that sunnah is more on polygamy and to a certain extent the way we dress. It is more than that.

        Many overlook the more important thing: to follow the character of the Prophet as much as we could.

        Prophet Muhammad SAW dressed like an Arab simply because he was an arab and lived in Arab land too.

        No harm if we want to dress like Him. But certainly it would be more effective should we follow his character. Merciful, forgiving, Humble, firm on principle among others.

        1. Shamsul,

          Read the article and you will understand exactly what it is all about. You merely pointing a part of it.

        2. Agree with this view. Perhaps maybe we should not termakan hasutan of some who simply hates us, and of some of us who had seriously bought the idea that observant Muslims wants to be Arab and nothing more. This view is not new. This has been around for years now and has been a cheap and easy way of getting at the ‘Arabs wannabe’!

          Melayu nak jadi arab? I don’t subscribe to this at all. Firstly, I don’t think the labelling is of good intention to begin with. The last time it was the label, fundamentalist and extremist, thrown to belittle Muslims who had chosen to fully observed their religious dues and some Muslims bought it too. Now the label is Islamist and Islamofascist has been coined instead to fan the war on terror, and sadly some Muslims had bought it too.

          Muslims are Muslims. Just as Malays are Malays.

          If one thinks that the Kebayas donning Malay lady is not less of a Malay lady, the same can be said about the Abayas donning Malay lady. It is perplexing to me when one wants the ‘Arab wannabe’ to stop judging some of us as being a lesser Muslims just because of certain acts, the very same person are quick to judge and label them as wanting to ape the Arabs, no less.

          To say some Malays are wanting to be Arabs are very insulting as much as I find it also insulting for people the likes of a Tok Guru, be it form Kelantan or Terengganu belittling UMNO and the non-PAS Muslims as being nothing but neraka dwellers!

          I’m a born Muslim, of Malay, Indian, and Siam descents; Just because I happens to like the Ferrari made Essence Oud fragrance(I can’t afford the car!), does not make wants to be an Arab, am I?

          Can we stop kidding already?

          1. re: “Now the label is Islamist and Islamofascist has been coined”

            Now the labels Islamophobe and Islamophobia have been coined too. Both sides play the game.

            1. Perhaps. But labelling the Muslims, just because we are not moderate enough to some likings is not of our doing first and foremost. Definitely we have reacted. Timely too.

              1. arab jadian how about that.. do you feel it.. as minang descent i know how is it like to feel the wrath of so called extreme islam… yes it’s extreme to me on how they treated our culture.. me and my family hold the adat perpateh dearly.. but some arab jadian even among minang start to belittle my culture just because it’s too pro women.. they say it’s unislamic.. but of course we’re kafir.. that what the arab jadian did to us.. curse us.. adat bersendikan syarak syark bersendi kitabullah.. it’s just word anymore.. they dont feel the perbilangan like the older generation.. they ascuse us with amalan saka harimau dan puaka and so on.. they THE ARAB JADIAN.

                1. Masalah lu punya puak dan lu punya luak apsal plak melayu siam kedah berdarah chola macam aku nk kena jawab. Lu punya luak nak jadi arab lu selesai sama sendiri. Takkan nak buka pekung sendiri kut brader?

                  1. masalahnya puak yg pro islam arab ekstrim ni sama mindset mcm kau…senang je nak kesan org mcm mereka ni..mereka cenderung berlebihan kpd budaya arab..nak suka budaya apa pun takde masalah..tpi masalah timbul bile puak2x ni merasa mereka ada kuasa mengamalkan budaya fitnah adat dan cara yg berbeza dgn budaya yg disanjung mereka iaitu budaya arabism..modus oprandi mereka berceramah utk kebaikan di surau dan masjid..di tempat ibadah ni mereka ada total power kondem sesiapa saja yg tak berkenan dihati mereka..jadi umat2x yg mndgr akan semakin tepengaruh dgn dakyah mereka..kenapa tidak bolehkan berbaik2x berdiskusi bertoleransi?..mereka lebih senang memandang adat sebagai sesuatu yg hina…org2x adat tak kan buat mcm tu..biar pun mereka berbeza pendpt..ada tertib dia..skrg biarlah aku buka sedikit pekung didada lebih baik kalo ia membwa perubahan..aku cuma berharap saja psl puak kau memang dah kontrol the majority malay mindset di media di tempat ibadat di jbtn kerajaan..parti politik mungkin lain2x tpi kamu semua sebenarnya sama saja cita-cita dan tujuannya..itu cara mereka mencapai tampuk kuasa pemikiran msyrkt..aku hanya boleh suarakan diskriminasi yg akan dan telah terjadi bile puak yg pro islam arab ekstrim ni kalau berkuasa.

                    majoriti org spt kamu sebenarnya kurang sensiti terhadap budaya lain yg penting bagi mereka melaksanakan arabism yg dipakaikan mantel islam sebenar utk membuat org lain kagum dan terpengaruh dgn mereka..attitude mereka spt merasa mereka wakil tunggal tuhan..yg tak setuju dgn cara mereka akan dihina dgn bermcm2x dalil..dlm negara yg kalo dorang minority xde masalah..kalau dah ada pengaruh skit memang nampaklah belangnya..tak sesuia utk multiracial country

                    lu tak perlu jwp pape..aku cuma nak org lain baca pengalaman-pengalaman pihak2x yg berbagai dlm myrkt melayu ni..jgn ingat korg yg pro islam(kononnyelah tpi sebenarnya pro arabism) ni btul sgt..inspirasi kamu adalh jelas..ni masalh tersembunyi dikalangan org melayu yg mana melayu pun malu nak buka mulut..psl takut di label jahil kerana masih mengamalkan budaya nenek moyang..padahal adat perpateh kalu diteliti jauh lebik baik dr sharia ala arab saudi..takde masalah budaya setempat disulam kedalam amalan harian asalkan tidak bercanggah dgn quran..sedangkan sharia arab pun bergelumang dgn berbagai tradisi mereka kenapa kita tak boleh amalkan ajarn quran bersandar budaya kita…ajaran quran universal…ini pakai selendang di maki nampak rambut haramlah…pi rumah bwak dulang hidangan menjemput ibu suku di kata jamu puaka..fitnah tulah senjata utama org yg sama mentaliti mcm kamu.

                    so kepada yg bukan melayu budaya korang lagi jauh berbeza sedangkan dikalangan melayu ni pun ada diskriminasi..ape lagi korang..hati-hatilah dgn arab jadian ni.

                    1. ‘masalahnya puak yg pro islam arab ekstrim ni sama mindset mcm kau…senang je nak kesan org mcm mereka ni..mereka cenderung berlebihan kpd budaya arab..nak suka budaya apa pun takde masalah..tpi masalah timbul bile puak2x ni merasa mereka ada kuasa mengamalkan budaya fitnah adat dan cara yg berbeza dgn budaya yg disanjung mereka iaitu budaya arabism’

                      Ini Bukan Statement FITNAH Ke Beb?!

                      ‘modus oprandi mereka berceramah utk kebaikan di surau dan masjid..di tempat ibadah ni mereka ada total power kondem sesiapa saja yg tak berkenan dihati mereka..jadi umat2x yg mndgr akan semakin tepengaruh dgn dakyah mereka..kenapa tidak bolehkan berbaik2x berdiskusi bertoleransi?..mereka lebih senang memandang adat sebagai sesuatu yg hina…org2x adat tak kan buat mcm tu..biar pun mereka berbeza pendpt..ada tertib dia..’

                      Aku Suka Wayang Kulit. Suka Baca Pasal Ravana. Aku Bukan Kerajaan Negeri PAS. Aku Bukan Ustaz Ferrari! Kau Fitnah Aku Lagi!

                      ‘skrg biarlah aku buka sedikit pekung didada lebih baik kalo ia membwa perubahan..aku cuma berharap saja psl puak kau memang dah kontrol the majority malay mindset di media di tempat ibadat di jbtn kerajaan’

                      ERR Aku Tak Kerja GOMEN! Tak Sangka Pengaruh Aku Kuat Sekali?! Terasa Bagus Pulak. Hmmm.

                      ‘parti politik mungkin lain2x tpi kamu semua sebenarnya sama saja cita-cita dan tujuannya..itu cara mereka mencapai tampuk kuasa pemikiran msyrkt..aku hanya boleh suarakan diskriminasi yg akan dan telah terjadi bile puak yg pro islam arab ekstrim ni kalau berkuasa.’

                      LOST IN TRANSLATION. Budak Minang Macam KO ni patut terjun kolam je, sebab BM kau TOILET BOWL WEI! BETUL KE KAU NI BUDAK MINANG?!

                      ‘aku hanya boleh suarakan diskriminasi yg akan dan telah terjadi bile puak yg pro islam arab ekstrim ni kalau berkuasa.’

                      OK Aku Cuba Fahamkan Masalah Suku Kau K.

                      ‘majoriti org spt kamu sebenarnya kurang sensiti terhadap budaya lain yg penting bagi mereka melaksanakan arabism yg dipakaikan mantel islam sebenar utk membuat org lain kagum dan terpengaruh dgn mereka..attitude mereka spt merasa mereka wakil tunggal tuhan..yg tak setuju dgn cara mereka akan dihina dgn bermcm2x dalil..dlm negara yg kalo dorang minority xde masalah..kalau dah ada pengaruh skit memang nampaklah belangnya..tak sesuia utk multiracial country’

                      Kau Ni Macam Budak SJKC Je? Teruk Benor Lenggok Kau?! AKU LOST IN TRANSLATION KEDUA KALINYA!

                      ‘lu tak perlu jwp pape..aku cuma nak org lain baca pengalaman-pengalaman pihak2x yg berbagai dlm myrkt melayu ni..jgn ingat korg yg pro islam(kononnyelah tpi sebenarnya pro arabism) ni btul sgt..inspirasi kamu adalh jelas..’

                      Pro Arabism Tu Macam Mana Ek? Boleh Perjelaskan Dengan Bahasa Yang Mudah Difahami?

                      ‘ni masalh tersembunyi dikalangan org melayu yg mana melayu pun malu nak buka mulut..psl takut di label jahil kerana masih mengamalkan budaya nenek moyang..’

                      Oh Ok. So Kau Ni Kira Melayu Yang Berani Buka Mulut Lah. Oh I See.

                      Betul Ke Kau Melayu?!

                      ‘padahal adat perpateh kalu diteliti jauh lebik baik dr sharia ala arab saudi..’

                      Ye Ke? Oh Macam Tu. Kau Minang? Kau Lulusan Shariah Ke?
                      Lawyer Ke? Tapi Apasal Cara Kau Cakap Macam Tauke DVD Pirates? Sorry La Aku Tersangka Buruk. BM Kau Teruk Sangat Wei! Konpius Aku?!

                      ‘takde masalah budaya setempat disulam kedalam amalan harian asalkan tidak bercanggah dgn quran..’

                      AKU SETUJU DAN TAK DE HALANGAN DENGAN PERKARA INI!

                      ‘sedangkan sharia arab pun bergelumang dgn berbagai tradisi mereka kenapa kita tak boleh amalkan ajarn quran bersandar budaya kita…’

                      Ok. Boleh Bagi Bukti Dan Terangkan Bagaimanakah Bentuk Dan Sifat sharia arab Yang Kau Maksudkan?

                      Ajaran Quran Bersandar Budaya Kita? Macam Mana Tu? Boleh Bagi Wa Paham?

                      ‘ajaran quran universal…’

                      Ok Terima Kasih. Saya Amat Bersetuju Dengan Kenyataan Ini!

                      ‘ini pakai selendang di maki nampak rambut haramlah…’

                      Siapa?

                      ‘pi rumah bwak dulang hidangan menjemput ibu suku di kata jamu puaka..’

                      Siapa?

                      ‘fitnah tulah senjata utama org yg sama mentaliti mcm kamu.’

                      OH FITNAH? HABIS YANG KAU FITNAH AKU BERJELA-JELA NI APA MENDE BEB? SEJAK BILA PULA AKU BUAT SEMUA BENDA NI. SEJAK BILA PULA AKU ADA MASALAH DENGAN SEMUA BENDA NI?

                      AKU ADA SAKA RIMAU BEB, KAU NAK TENGOK KE? AKU TENGAH LAPAR NI?!

                      ‘so kepada yg bukan melayu budaya korang lagi jauh berbeza sedangkan dikalangan melayu ni pun ada diskriminasi..’

                      SEBENARNYA AKU LOST IN TRANSLATION LAGI KALI KETIGANYA, TAPI AKU RASA KAU NAK BAGI WARNING BANGSA BUKAN MELAYU PASAL ORANG MELAYU.

                      ‘ape lagi korang..hati-hatilah dgn arab jadian ni.’

                      AKU LAGI RISAU AKAN FENOMENA MELAYU JADI-JADIAN YANG SEMAKIN MENGILA BABI MENJADI-JADI SEJAK KEBELAKANGAN INI! INI BABI SONDOL OLANG MEMANG TALAK TENGOK PUNYA!!!

  15. Bosan .. Bosan … Bosan … this is my silly thoughts … my theory conspiracy … hehe ..

    Malays support are divided. UMNO election just around the corner. How to make Malay more united. ? Create sentiment. .. They tried to do that with Zul Nordin And Ibrahim Ali but they failed. So what more can be done. They cant just wake up one day and say … Lets be united … Mari semua perkasakan Bangsa Melayu .. Ini tanahair kita …. bla bla bla …. It wont work that way anymore. So all these HM saga is actually a way to wake the Malay up and be more united .. that can be seen in most of the blogs. Come UMNO election another keris will be on display …

    They know for sure the nons will be attacking from every corner. They are not that stupid … Look at comments in FMT dan yg sewaktu dengannya. it is expected. Then we have bloggers like Helen trying to make things right … pun kena hentam jugak ..!

    Let the issue spread. The nons will definitely start to enroll their kids in SJK. Will the SJK get more bantuan from the government this time around. ? No strong MCA nor MIC in the gov now. You know the answer. SJK will be more crowded. Let them handle on their own coz thats what they want. Payback time in a diff manner … ? I dunno…. Kids have been taught to hate the UMNO gov. Thats why any race issue will be very fast spreading … well informed by the kids. Are the Malay doing the same thing ? taught to hate the nons and report to parents on any racial issue in the school … shud we start to do it now …? I leave it to you ….

    But in the end … Gajah dgn Gajah bergaduh .. siapa yg mati di tengah-tengah … For Pakatan I hope this is a good time to show to Malaysian how they manage the whole issue here. They claim ramai Melayu sokong Pakatan. How to tackle all this racial sentiment to make Malaysia more Malaysian. For DAP, this is also a good time to show the Malay that they are not Chinese based party. They fight for all Malaysian …. bla bla bla… If they manage to prove what they claim all this while .. people might change their mind. For UMNO .. emm, we know their game plan … very easy and straight forward … duduk tersenyum je skrg tgk Melayu lebih bertambah Melayu after GE13 …

    Do you want our country to be like Syria … I leave it to you to decide … !!

    Peace Y’all ….. !!

    1. iMran Ashaari,

      “..how to make Malays more united? Create sentiment…”

      Wow. I do not know that Malays are that bad to you. Are “these” bad people include your parents too?

      Why not look at the case as it is. One disgruntled parent complained that non Muslim students were forced to eat in toilet. She lied.

      She lied on 2 things:
      1) Students involved include Malay/Muslims students too
      2) The place provided is changing room, not toilet

      It has nothing to do with UMNO election around the corner.

      It has nothing to do with “gajah sama gajah bergaduh”, my brother. It is about one parent for reason best known to her told a half truth story. And useless politician like Guan Eng seized the moment to create a racial issue out of nothing.

      Why are we being hypocrite. we lament that politicians play racial card. yet we blindly tolerate the very same politician.

      It is a simple case anyway. Yet we waste time looking at every angle except the truth.

      “…For UMNO, we know their game plan…”

      What is wrong with Malays becoming and admitting they are malays. Please do not belittle those who support or vote for UMNO.

      Please understand that many thousands Malay decided to vote UMNO after they see how PAS, PKR has “practically” nothing of “roh Melayu/Islam”.

      What you expect UMNO to do? Crucify the headmaster in order to show to non Muslims that UMNO is for all ?

  16. There was a police report lodged against a chinese teacher for similar accusation as this case Helen highlighted. It happened in June:

    http://medan-info-kita.blogspot.de/2013/07/cikgu-poh-kim-thye-panggil-murid-melayu.html

    Why was this not blown out of proportion or at least given the same reaction by the media?

    Benda-benda macam ni la yang menjadi bom jangka bagi orang melayu. Satu hari kalau dah meletup , selamat tinggal la keamanan.

    Cina DAP yang selalu sangat menjolok sarang tebuan atau golongan yang menangguk di air keroh semua akan kena tempiasnya.

    Beringatlah semua sebelum terjadi.

        1. la aku pulak ko kata red bean….bukan red bean…blue bean kot….aku cakap atas tu “sarcastically” la

          1. Red beans are good for breastfeeding mums, so says some old chinese for breastmilk. These red beans army must be bebudak hingusan yang belum putus susu ibu?

            mdsabu lebih elok jadi MrBeans, he brightens up the world and make dull and sad people laugh!

  17. The recent incidents are a reflection of our society – it is sick and rotten to the core. Don’t blame the politicians, the educators, the parents or the students. This is a systemic failure of epic proportions on our part. It is easy to say that we have dumb ministers, teachers, headmasters, parents or students. However, the fact is many of you chose to react like idiots, and that typifies the problems we are facing in terms of race relations (and many other things).

    Ini masalah kita, bukan masalah kami. Yang tak faham perbezaannya wajib ambil balik kelas bahasa Malaysia. Senang nak tuduh Helen gembar-gemburkan isu ini kerana dia Cina. Tapi macam Raja Petra kata, bila dok dis sibuk maki-hamun Melayu, semua bertepuk. Bila jentik aje Cina dan India dia terus dilabel sebagai musuh dalam selimut / sudah berpaling tadah. Ini sindrom orang kurang ilmu / akal, mungkin juga sindrom orang Malaysia secara amnya – kita sokong orang, bukan sokong hujah.

    1. For example comment of films we have not seen. A flim critic writes critique after they have seen the film. How many of us have seen Tanda Putera or New Village? None.

      Another example the oppo is so excited over the GST bill when no one has seen it.

      The dumb kids say they don’t like BN but they don’t know what they don’t like BN. The dumb Penang kids line up for minions. Buy the Happy Meal in the middle of Raya. Because it is beef and they are Cina, dump the burger in the dustbin.
      (When Despicable Me came out no one cared. Why go crazy over Part 2/) Lim Guan Eng too is crazy over the minions?

      1. I can live with a lot of things – stupidity, greed, apathy etc.. After all, we are humans. What I find difficult to take, and what makes me despair, is how quickly people are willing to castigate others and condemn them. You would think that you grow out of such impulses after high school, but apparently many don’t.

        We are all blind because we choose not to see how many things we all share alike and have in common. I don’t know what it takes anymore when people make the worst assumptions about others every time when some shit hit the fan. Even if someone makes a colossal mistake or erred, you can hardly make him or her see the point by reacting like a total jackass.

        There is a quote that says that peace is a gift we give each other. Well, apparently, Malaysians don’t deserve the gift of peace and harmony because we haven’t learn how to give it. Maybe it is my time of the month, but it is a bit hard for me at the moment to keep up with the vitriol being thrown about in a casual manner in these threads.

        I am sorry Helen, I haven’t got the energy nor the time to engage on this. Everyone else is welcomed to stew in this voodoo brew of hate till it satisfies them.

      2. As for LGE and his minions, let me put it this way… MB Pulau Pinang mengambil masa untuk mengambil hati para pengundi dengan menunggang populariti orang lain seperti k-pop gangnam style, massive rubber duck (kenyalang bird) and now Despicable Me’s minions.

        Am I surprised? He is a politician, no? Ikut suka hati dan selera para peminat masing-masing. Macam artis mencari publisiti murahan, kerja politikus ini betul-betul mencabar.

        1. re: “Macam artis mencari publisiti murahan”

          Mengingatkan saya kepada seorang politikus wanita parti pembangkang …

          1. Helen,

            Yup. I know the politician whom you are referring to.

            But there is one politician whom I respect. Allahyarham Tun Ghaffar Baba. He was so simple, humble. He was often looked down for being too “kampung”.

            He did not create a scene when he was challenged in 1993. He stood to his principle of not offering money to defend his position. He lost his position as UMNO Deputy President an d together with it the post of Deputy Prime Minister.

            I never heard him uttering nasty remarks even to other side of political divide. That is quite an achievement considering many politicians like Court Jester Mohd sabu, Mahfuz or Tian chua or Guan eng who love to insinuate others not to mention slandering a second nature.

            May Allah SWT bless the late Tun.

  18. Agree with forrestcat……i have lived long enough to see and feel the frustrations..

  19. Mari berbuka puasa dengan orang Cina yang lain.

    Mari bergambar bersama Christopher Ross.

    1. I am Mulan,

      Christopher Ross tries very hard to project himself as a Malay but he fails. He looks funny in baju Melayu and songkok because we can see his kepura-puraan!

  20. Oh yeeee.. Melayu yg jahat, Melayu zalim, Melayu tak betul, Melayu segalanya menindas..

    Video klip terbaru namawee kata Melayu tak reti berkongsi. Betul ke Melayu tak reti berkongsi atau telah terlebih berkongsi? Atau mereka yg tak reti BERKONGSI.. Apa jenis perkongsian mereka? Mari kita fikir apa yg Melayu TAK RETI KONGSI selama ini? Nikmat perkongsian terbesar yg takkan ada di mana2 adalah KERAKYATAN JUS SOLI.

    [YouTube]

      1. Wow Namewee sedang membikin filem internasional Malaysia dan Bangladesh bertajuk Banglasia. (Sumber Namewee Tokok Episod 016)
        Pelakon sungguh kacak.

        [YouTube]

  21. Out of topic. I just want to share this article:-

    Penulis dan penyelidik sejarah, Zaharah Sulaiman dilaporkan hari ini menafikan bangsa Melayu adalah golongan pendatang seperti yang didakwa oleh sesetengah pihak.

    Menurutnya, bangsa Melayu adalah kaum asal di rantau Nusantara ini, menerusi pemetaan genetik dan artifak arkeologi mendapati masyarakat Orang Asli Semang dan Senoi yang mendiami Benua Sunda (Asia Tenggara) merupakan nenek moyang kepada populasi Melayu Proto dan kaum Melayu hari ini.

    “Pengesahan ini jelas sekali menolak dakwaan buku Contesting Malayness: Malay Identity Across Boundaries yang diterbitkan oleh National University of Singapore (NUS) yang menyatakan kaum Melayu berasal daripada campuran kaum-kaum dari selatan China dan India,” katanya.

    Beliau berkata demikian dalam Wacana Mengenali dan Menjejaki Perjalanan Bangsa Melayu dan Asal Usulnya anjuran Kelab Wartawan Muda Malaysia di Kuala Lumpur, semalam.

    Buku susunan Profesor Madya di Jabatan Sejarah NUS, Timothy P. Barnard yang diterbitkan pada 2004 mendakwa kaum Melayu tiada asas untuk menjadi kaum yang nyata kerana ia adalah campuran daripada kaum-kaum lain.

    Ekoran itu, buku berkenaan mencadangkan kaum Cina dan India di Malaysia diberikan taraf bumiputera kerana orang Melayu sebenarnya berasal daripada salasilah kedua-dua kaum itu.

    Zaharah berkata, kajian yang dilakukannya bersama beberapa penyelidik lain sejak 2009 mendapati masyarakat Semang dan Senoi berasal daripada manusia asal di Afrika yang berhijrah ke rantau ini sejak 65,000 tahun dahulu.

    “Kumpulan yang telah berhijrah ke Benua Sunda ini merupakan nenek moyang kepada manusia moden hari ini termasuk di Asia Timur dan Amerika.

    “Kajian juga mendapati orang Jawa, Dayak, Batak, Champa, Madagascar dan Polynesia juga mempunyai genetik asal daripada Semang dan Senoi dan oleh itu mereka juga orang Melayu,” katanya.

    “Saya harap kajian ini akan menyemarakkan kembali semangat Melayu dan membuatkan mereka tidak lagi malu menjadi Melayu yang mengikut sejarah, panggilan ini bermaksud ‘orang gunung’,” katanya.

    Tambahnya, faktor letusan gunung berapi, gempa bumi, banjir besar dan tsunami menyebabkan Benua Sunda telah terpisah sehingga membentuk Semenanjung Malaysia, Sumatera, Jawa, Filipina dan Borneo.

    “Selat Melaka sekarang sebenarnya adalah salah satu daripada sungai-sungai yang terdapat di Benua Sunda dan ini dapat menjawab persoalan para pengkaji kenapa selat ini sangat cetek,” ujarnya.

      1. Bila orang tak faham bahasa. Salah faham memang tidak dapat dielakkan. Contohnya, jika kita sebut keturunan pendatang, masih ada orang yang akan berasa tersinggung kerana ceteknya pemahaman tentang maksud. Sepatutnya sesetengah daripada kita patut merasa tersinggung jika dilabelkan sebagai keturunan pendatang haram. Pendatang atau immigrants tidak membawa sebarang konotasi yang menghina.

        Orang Asli. Hanya kerana orang Melayu memilih untuk melabel sesetengah daripada kami, keturunan Melayu Proto sebagai Orang Asli, tidak bermakna kami ini keturunan Whites Amerika dan mereka itu Red Indians. Kami juga asli Semenanjung Tanah Melayu. Asli di sini mungkin lebih merujuk kepada keturunan mereka yang tidak mempunyai darah campur atau peranakan seperti lain-lain orang Melayu.

        Atas dasar ini saja adakalanya saya rasa tidak perlu untuk menerangkan kepada mereka-mereka yang mengatakan Orang Melayu berasal daripada Indonesia. Pandangan dangkal dan bengap sebegini merupakan bodoh yang tidak boleh diajar seperti yang diungkapkan oleh Tun M tempoh hari. Dan mereka ini sememangnya ramai sekali!

        1. Some Chinese even have the cheek to lay claim that Hang Tuah and sahabat-sahabatnya were Chinese. Remember Hang Tuah’s famous words “Tak Akan Melayu Hilang Di Dunia!” Do you think a Chinese would say this? And another thing, would a Chinese killed another Chinese (Hang Jebat) for the sake of a Malay Sultan? Tak masuk akal langsung!

          1. And to some of them too, we are the Whites American who had discriminated against the Red Indians of the Tanah Melayu. Their top leaders, their thinkers, up to the next top up agents peddling top up cards in supermarket would conveniently subscribed to the same mambo jumbo as their made believe one way mantra!

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