Bersih chairman Ambiga Sreenevesan said “the judiciary was sending a negative message to candidates and the public by awarding higher costs” on the election petitions thrown out by the court, The Malaysian Insider reported recently.
TMI quoted Ambiga as saying “candidates were elected to serve the people and the courts should not impose high costs as this was seen as a form of punishment”.
PKR Subang MP Sivarasa Rasiah complained that his party’s petitioners have been ordered to pay a total of more than half a million ringgit over their unsuccessful bids to overturn the GE13 results in those constituencies won by the BN.
(You might be interested to read ‘Rise up it’s time to take Subang for Jesus’.)
Since many of the petitions filed by Pakatan losing candidates (or their election directors) have been struck out by Election Court, the opposition parties have decided to convene a “People’s Tribunal” of their own, which in all likelihood will deliver verdicts to Pakatan’s liking.
Bersih “non-partisan” and the moon is made from green cheese
Bersih has obliged to hold “the court of public opinion” on behalf of Pakatan.
Yet Ambiga claims that her organization is non-partisan, wor …
And not forgetting that a principal mover and shaker of Bersih 1.0 and 2.0 is Haris ‘Kuburkan Umno’ Ibrahim whose name is synonymous with ABU.
Playing it for perception
Pakatan has filed 29 election petitions.
It is a ploy to throw aspersions at the Election Commission, undermine public trust in the apparatus of state and cast doubt on the validity of the GE13 results.
Remember how, long even before the election date was announced, Pakatan had already gone to town with their accusations that the polls would be the “dirtiest” ever?
It is their typical oppo M.O. — simply accuse. The Pakatan politicians do it. Apparatchiks and operatives use it as their main tactic. Dapsters and Jerusubang cultists have Fitnah as a middle name.
40,000 Bangladeshis and Kian Ming’s 3.3 million ghosts
In the end the petitions boil down to complaints about the indelible ink supposedly washing off, “blackouts” and dissatisfaction with the electoral roll.
(Recommended reading: Oik on ‘Electoral fraud‘ … ada ke?)
NONE of the Pakatan election petitions mentioned anything about the 40,000 Bangladeshis. EC deputy chairman Wan Ahmad Wan Omar said: “Their petitions on phantom voters are very general in nature” (report by The Mole, here).
How sneaky the oppo are! Just like The J-Star.
Remember how widespread the rumours of the purported Bangladeshi voters were over the social media?
Duh …
From Oik’s blog (7 May 2013):
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“It seems there are some still questioning whether Mr Rameish [Raman] is indeed Malaysian even after clarification from [the Jabatan Pendaftaran Negara] that he was. After all, JPN, being a part of Government, is not to be trusted.
By all accounts, this incident occurred at the Taman Segar polling centre under the P.123 Cheras constituency. This is a formidable DAP fortress with the Chinese making up 84% of voters. In 2008, the incumbent Tan Kok Wai won this seat by a whopping 28,300 majority. So, it begs the question: If he were indeed a phantom voter, why would BN send him to a place like this? What could it possibly hope to achieve?”
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The fitnah that is favoured by Pakatan supporters defies logic. Indeed why in the world would the BN – alleged by the oppo to have affected electoral fraud – want to send a Bangladeshi to Cheras of all places? It is a traditional DAP stronghold and the incumbent DAP deputy chairman Tan Kok Wai successfully defended his seat in GE13 with a majority of 37,409 votes.
Suspecting a phantom voter in Cheras is throwing common sense out the window. Odikal betul.
Here we can see that Dapsters are just the kind of people who can easily believe in the most outrageous lies, in addition to spreading them.
Pakatan loses in court
PARLIAMENTARY SEATS
Setiawangsa: Court orders petitioner Ibrahim Yaacob (PKR) to pay RM70,000 (RM50,000 to RO* and EC, RM20,000 to 1stR, i.e. the BN winning candidate)
*RO = returning officer, 1stR = first respondent)
Titiwangsa: Court orders petitioner Ahmad Zamri Asa’ad Khuzaimi (PAS) to pay RM30,000 to 1stR and RM40,000 to RO and EC.
Kuala Berang: Court orders petitioner Ahmad Zamani Yusof (PAS) to pay RM50,000 each to 1stR, RO and EC.
Balik Pulau: Court orders petitioner Muhammad Baktiar Wan Chik (PKR) to pay RM40,000 each to 1stR, RO and EC.
Ketereh: Court orders petitioner Abdul Aziz Abdul Kadir (PKR) to pay RM40,000 to 1stR and RM25,000 each to RO and EC.
Pulai: Court orders appellant (PAS) to pay RM10,000 to 1stR and RM25,000 each to RO and EC.
Tebrau: Court orders appellant (PKR) to pay RM10,000 to 1stR and RM25,000 each to RO and EC.
Bachok: Court dismisses preliminary objection filed by PAS and orders petitioner to pay RM30,000 costs for the dismissal.
STATE SEATS
Selising: Court dismisses petition and orders petitioner Semsudin Muhammad (PAS) to pay RM30,000 costs.
Teluk Bahang: Court orders petitioner Abdul Halim Hussain (PKR) to pay RM10,000 each to 1stR, RO and EC.
Air Lanas: Court orders petitioner Mustapha Deris (PAS) to pay RM30,000 to 1stR and RM25,000 each to RO and EC.
Kok Lanas: Court orders petitioner Shaberi Mohd Zain (PAS) to pay RM30,000 to 1stR and RM25,000 each to RO and EC.
Rungkup: Court orders petitioner Misbahul Munir Masduki (PAS) to pay RM5,000 to 1stR and RM5,000 to the Election Commission (EC).
Manong: Court orders petitioner Jamil Dzulkarnain (PAS) to pay RM40,000 each to 1stR and EC,
Pasir Panjang: Court orders petitioner Shamsul Sakri Che Din (voter) to pay RM40,000 each to 1stR, RO and EC.
Manjoi: Court orders petitioner Ahmad Mansor (voter) to pay RM40,000 to 1stR, RM35,000 to the RO and RM30,000 to EC.
Jelawat: Court dismisses preliminary objection filed by PAS and orders appellant to pay RM30,000 costs for the dismissal.
MCA’s The Jerusubang Star
What’s wrong with Dapsters?
What kind of people are they?
After failing to win in court, they want to run a trial by media.
What kind of media will coddle the Dapsters?
You tahu pun the answer, kan?
Helen Ang 
In mature democracy, after election results are announced and government is formed, all parties closed ranks and concentrate on the running of the government maintaining checks and balance. But not in Malaysia. The oppo concentrate their time and resources trying to nullify the election result and run down whatever the government is doing.
What kind of oppo are they?
Surely if they ever win, the BS that Guan Eng and his kakis are preaching of PM for all, Government for all shit will be proven as merely nothing but lips service, as can be seen on how they treated the oppo-PR media. Having said that the same can be said on Anwar and PAS leaders! These people does not have a big heart and tend to bully their detractors whenever they had the chance.
Chances are the status quo will never change should they become the government of the day.
This can be seen when Guan Eng had brag that he can’t stand UMNO contractors when he claims that he is the Ketua Menteri for all?
Definitely not, looking at the double standard he is showing when treating peniaga kecil Melayu di Pulau Pinang but still having the gut to tell off DPM as not behaving like a DPM for all.
Very kiasu and very lansi indeed.
“What kind of oppo are they?”
“TRUE BLUE OPPO” where their job is to oppose every single thing under the sun.
Shouldn’t Hannah Yeoh be charged with sedition?
They are not known for being mature. They are a bunch of cultists, always in a state of perpetual hysteria.
To get to the state of perpetual hysteria, they need stimuli, one of which is through lies, concocting stuff like “the government owns the mainstream media”, therefore its due to the government’s hack job that the opposition lost the GE.
Their kangaroo court is very amusing to say the least. Speaking of a kangaroo court, there’s another one which people have almost forgotten, but one which I expect will be whipped into a frenzy by the opposition since their election appeals will soon run out of “steam” whatever that means L O L “steam”. what’s that ? L O L !
Now you people must be wondering. What’s the other kangaroo court I m referring to. Come on, its getting hot, steamy too. The one on the Demented Accusations Party’s party elections. The Iguana has said that there will be no reelection come what may and he’s challenging the Registrar of Societies to take action on his party.
If local filmmakers are looking for “materials”, these “puppets” shows courtesy of the Demented Accusations Party are the best place to start. But if local filmmakers were to make films about this party, no doubt they will receive the Iguana’s standard treatment of “I sue, I sue !”.
The very reason why they will forever remain as oppo; dulu, sekarang dan selama2nya. Anyway even in circus they will need clowns to entertain and amuse the audience..
So far Hannah Yeoh seems quite funny and entertaining enough wasn’t she an event manager once?
Childish opposition? They jatuh air muka adi mah as before election tell the whole world they can form Federal Government, Now after elex they still an Opposition have to do something to prove their relevance loh…
Are u talking about bn? The minority goverment?
Thanks great write. The main thing is to see what they allege in court. Sama tak with what they allege in black 505. Then see whether they have proof tak? All these people are blatant liars.
hannah yeah stop the lies. if you can manipulate your daughter punya keturunan dari keturunan India ke china sebab malu mengaku keturunan india apa pulak dia nak malu kalau kata BN penipu. Hananh ..Banana ..stop the lies… your are big liars and big manipulater.. satu keturunan dengan Tokong Lim dan anak-anak..
satu i nak tanya party you DAP dah buat election semula ke.? ..ramai ahli dah komplen penipuan CEC… apa cerita… bila nak bersihkan parti election you? atau you nak ahli parti you buat petisyen jugak sebab parti you ramai phontem voters masa pemilihan CEC?
you nampak kuman kat seberang.. parti sendiri penuh gelumamg najis… longkang dalam rumah lupa nak bersihkan boleh kata rumah orang lain kotor.. DAP parti menjijikkan…
Mana itu phantom voters? Mana itu 40,000 Bangla voters . Mana 505 black out proof semua pegi? Demo sini…demo sana…apa yang sudah diubah ? Kalau sayang negara kenapa masih create non democratic practices ? Cukup lh..BOSAN Lah!
Mereka tak sayang negara. Mereka sayang kuasa. Mereka ni golongan gila kuasa. Mereka tak bosan buat demo sana sini. Kan buat demo ini salah satu cara mereka menarik perhatian rakyat. Mereka pergi sana sini beritahu kat rakyat mereka buat demo sana sini demi rakyat.
Kita usah layan karenah seumpama ini. Lagi kita layan, lagi ghairah mereka jadi. Mereka ini golongan hopeless.
Brainless and trustworthy-less!
Another thing to note. This court they’re creating is judge by people they like, prosecuted by people they like and probably not defended by the people they accused. So they pass summary judgement just like the dictators they protest.
Utterly hupocritical when they proclaim they believe in justice fairness and democracy. They lied to the public knowing full well they can’t prove in courts. Then nak tutup Malu they intend to carry out despotic regime kind of trial. Macam cerita batman. They think they’re league of shadows trying to upright their false sense of justice. Then set up the people court to summarily try the people. Ambiga thinks she’s Talia al Ghul to save the Malaysia through lies deceit and falsehood.
re: “probably not defended by the people they accused”
Good point Ellese.
What kind of people are they?
To ‘what kind of people’ are they trying to prove?
Stupid buta tuli pengikut or cash rich foreign sponsors?
Count me as someone who has no faith in the EC but…..
I am in agreement with Art Harun when it comes to this whole suing business. For better or worse, with whatever dysfunction is in our electoral process the ballot is the final word when it comes to democracy and not the courts.
Note: I agree that a functional legal system is one of the pillars of a functional democracy.
All this nonsense is an expensive way for DSAI to justify his non retirement from politics.
There are other more vital issues that the Opposition should attempt to get a grip on but as I always say, that would entail a commitment to principles which they have a weak track record off.
REF: “What’s wrong with Dapsters? What kind of people are they?”
As long as “religionists” are not seeking “The Truth”, then “truth” is malleable in their own hands:
Their truth is that their every political initiative is forgiven by the blood of Jesus, morality aside: [YouTube]
How come BN dont complain when they loose.
kalau pakatan had won, the courts have been judicially unbiased. Pakatan wake up from your slumber. Be a MAN. Dah KALAH terima lah KEKALAHAN.
Betul kata rabbit. Sepaptutnya work together for the benefit of the people not your benefit. THE PEOPLE ARE THE YBs and not you all as elected reps. Without our votes, you wont be there. Enough is enough and get off your big arses and start working for the people.
Subang jaya, petaling jaya and kelana jaya is so kotor. What are the ADUNs doing to ensure cleanliness is maintained to the highest standards. We voted the reps to work for the rakyat so carry out the amanah that you have accepted.
As for ambiga. Duduk rumah diam2.
re: “How come BN dont complain when they loose.”
Ada juga. BN pun filed election petitions and lost.
However I did not list the BN ones due to one difference, i.e. the Pakatan states are solid in their hands.
E.g. Both in Selangor & Penang, the Pakatan have a two-thirds majority, so any election petition will not threaten their position.
However, in the states controlled by BN, i.e. Terengganu & Perak, it is with a wafer thin majority. Losing one or two election petitions could cause the BN to topple.
Hence Pakatan is using this election petition tactic as a disruptive weapon, which is not the same with BN.
Secondly, Pakatan is also frivolously resorting to the courts with the purpose of de-legitimizing the voting process. Win or lose, the very act of filing the petitions suggests in the mind of the public (their gullible supporters) that “it’s true” — there were irregularities during the polls.
Whereas BN did not file their election petitions with the same purpose in mind.
The “truth” presented by PR is a fabrication. That’s also how they hoodwink the public into thinking that they know what the public want and the public automatically believe that PR has the solution to all their problems.
In other words, its all fabricated. Nothing is real.
I doubt all this nonsense has any effect on the Malays and to a lesser extend the Indians. But oh my, the Chinese sure believe them.
A Chinese friend of mine told me yesterday evening that Chinese non governmental organizations have urged the MCA
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2013/08/06/dont-hesitate-to-quit-bn-mca-told/
to quit the BN if necessary in order to defend the interests of the Chinese community yet at the same time these NGOs have urged the MCA to accept ministerial positions so that the voices of the community be heard. If there is one word to describe the mentality of these Chinese NGOs, that word is hypocrisy.
I sometimes wonder how long the Malays and the rest will put up with these shenanigans by the Chinese.
How long ? Sampai bila ?
‘Pakatan is also frivolously resorting to the courts with the purpose of de-legitimizing the voting process. Win or lose, the very act of filing the petitions suggests in the mind of the public (their gullible supporters) that “it’s true” — there were irregularities during the polls.’
It’s not that hard to decipher isn’t it?!
Perhaps it’s time to apply for the courts to declare PR’s unholy trinity of parties as vexatious litigants. Doubtful it will stop them from applying leave from the courts to file whatever nonsensical claims they have but if it disrupts their flow, why the hell not eh?
Alasan saja. BN pun ada kalah dlm kes2 petiton tapi terima kekalahan. Tak buat bising.
Empty vessels make a lot of noise. They know who they are.
pakatan is trying to repeat lies. because when you talk about lies all the time, it will become the truth inside the brains of Pakatoon macais.
made belief mantra
In a democracy, Malaysian Democracy, talking rubbish is free. As I always say that for a person to be a Malaysian politician you do not need any qualification but only the gift of the gab and a quick turn of the mind. In the old days, such a person might fear imprisonment but no longer in the present environment. Enjoy while the going is good folks !
‘In the old days, such a person might fear imprisonment but no longer in the present environment.’
Sooner or later we will be literally kicking asses like the Taiwanese YBs does or just killing one another like the Syrian is doing right now!
islam1st. These unqualified oppo pols already using their mouths to do what they have not done yet with their hands and feet. You are right. And they think this is poliitics !
Helen,
Bila the post on Harry Lee’s take on Malaysia ?
Can’t wait for Uncle AK47 to go ballistic :D
Since you believe that Pakatan is the better option to the BN, what are your views on the snippet reported by Bernama, viz.
Geez Helen,
I have been saying this like, forever. As usual I am ahead of the game unlike Harry.
With UMNO the supremacy is a political platform, I’m willing to roll the dice on PR for a shot at changing the System. Maybe nothing will change or maybe a little with change but at least the most basic moral principle of democracy that of change of government would be attempted.
Mind you, if UMNO can show me that it has changed or is willing to change the System (even with just small steps), then yeah, I’ll give them my vote, but it needs to be more than just lip service.
Re: “With UMNO the supremacy is a political platform”
And you trust Anwar’s “Cina pun anak kita, India pun anak kita” platform? Look at Anwar’s track record. If you wanna diss Umno’s “supremacy”, first look at who in Umno it was that carried out all/any if the supremacist policies.
Re: “I’m willing to roll the dice on PR for a shot at changing the System.”
They control 3 states currently and 5 states (+Kedah, Perak) previously. What in the System have Pakatan changed in those states that they rule?
Re: “at least the most basic moral principle of democracy that of change of government would be attempted”
Never heard of the saying, the more things change, they more they stay the same. What about the change of government in Egypt? Was Morsi better than Mubarak?
re: “Mind you, if UMNO can show me that it has changed or is willing to change the System (even with just small steps)”
Najib tried to make those changes. Pakatan shot him down even before he could try. Instead of backing Najib so that the changes could take effect, the Chinese and the English-speaking, Christian middle-class Indians sabotaged whatever Najib’s efforts at “Change”.
It’s not any change to the System (little or large) that Pakatan is concerned about. What they want is a change in the occupant of Bangunan Perdana Putra, so that it is they who sit there, that’s all.
re: “then yeah, I’ll give them my vote, but it needs to be more than just lip service”
“Lip service”. Pakatan serves that with extra helping of forked tongue.
Typo:
“first look at who in Umno it was that carried out all/any OF the supremacist policies”
good one Helen tapi jangan selalu layan ,ini budak budak punya fikiran . Supremacy la, change system la …cakap bagus bagus . I rasa this guy kalau suruh dia change the system kat small organisation like his office pun dia tak boleh buat .
This ayya has been going in circles like nobody’s business. Even I can’t cope with him. It is disheartening (believe or not) for me to see good and honest people like some here (you know who you are), being made to join him in his merry go round kid’s fun club permainan. I have the utmost respect for their level of kesabaran.
With these jokers, I can only manage to dumb down to get my point across.
Re: “Look at Anwar’s track record.”
I am looking at his record and I am looking at how the discourse is shaping up within PR now. The Non Malays in PR have a bigger voice and are enjoying a dialectic that they never enjoyed in BN.
Sure I may argue that the Indians are being marginalized but I have to consider how they got into the position they are in in the first place. UMNO’s track record is of more importance. Correction, what they are attempting to do currently is more important.
Re:”They control 3 states currently and 5 states (+Kedah, Perak) previously. What in the System have Pakatan changed in those states that they rule?”
As far as Penang and Selangor are concerned by all accounts they have got good grades from the auditor general. Kelantan was always going to be mired in Islamic preoccupation but then again UMNO seemed to have no interest in changing that.
As for the other two states they controlled there was paralysed by the fact they never really received a proper mandate and the fact that the Federal machinery was interfering in the states in question.
However what is of importance is that PR has finally changed the nature of discourse in this country. Of course it is partisan but at least that’s a start.
Re: “Never heard of the saying, the more things change, they more they stay the same. What about the change of government in Egypt? Was Morsi better than Mubarak?”
If anyone really believes this saying that why the fear of a PR takeover ? If things remain the same, then why should it matter who rules ? And why bring up Egypt ? If we are a contender for the best democracy in the world why not bring up, oh, I don’t know, the United States or ….Sweden.
Unless we are supposed to be the best democracy in the world only if UMNO rules.
UMNO used to say that street protest would lead to Armageddon and violence but what all these recent street demos have shown is that if the PDRM remains professional, there is really nothing to fear.
Re: “Najib tried to make those changes.”
What changes are those ? And it really does not matter if PR shot them down. That is their job as an Opposition which seeks power. We all say we want bi partisanship but has UMNO ever attempted to seek this out. Throwing money at the Chinese community and using the MCA to play the hudud card hardly counts as changes.
His so called transformation programs are floundering and he does not seem to have to political will to enforce whatever changes he wishes to make by taking on an intransigent bureaucracy .
Re: “It’s not any change to the System (little or large) that Pakatan is concerned about. What they want is a change in the occupant of Bangunan Perdana Putra, so that it is they who sit there, that’s all.”
This is what democracy is all about. It is up to the supporters of the party to see to it that their agendas are implemented.
Former PM Badawi claims that if he listened to Mahathir the nation would have gone bankrupt. He did it his own way and somewhere along the way, the public spaces were opened up….perhaps unwittingly but I do not begrudge him taking credit.
Maybe there will be no major changes but maybe there will be. Maybe it would start small and grow into something bigger.
Re:” “Lip service”. Pakatan serves that with extra helping of forked tongue”
Perhaps, but UMNO is in a position to make real changes, so they are the ones who need to convince people to defect from PR.
Re: “I am looking at his record”
Since you’re not willing to say it, I will. Anwar was a lousy Education Minister and and even worse Finance Minister.
Re: “I am looking at how the discourse is shaping up within PR now.”
Okay. Discourse: “#sahur”, “even tho’ we’re evangelistas but we’re more Muslim than you are, Insya Allah”, “see, see, we buka puasa and appear in the mosques and suraus more often than Umno and PAS combined” and “we’re such superlative faux Muslims that we’re even redefining the characteristics of your Allah”.
re: “The Non Malays in PR have a bigger voice and are enjoying a dialectic that they never enjoyed in BN.”
Yup, something that MCA and Gerakan have never enjoyed in BN before; the Non Malays in PR suddenly and overnight become Islam experts who petik ayat surah ‘Aura’ (sic) in a louder voice and greeted with “takbir” — a privilege that MCA-Gerakan were never granted.
re: “what they are attempting to do currently is more important”
I’m interested in what you think Umno is attempting to do currently…
Re: “As far as Penang and Selangor are concerned by all accounts they have got good grades from the auditor general.”
Since you make this assertion, I hope that you will share with us the relevant excerpts from the AG’s reports on why Pg & S’gor were given good marks.
I on the other hand will point out that Pg’s books were not in the red due to “restructuring” its water assets agreement for a debt write-off of RM655 million – with a stroke of the pen – whereas in S’gor the state govt has cash reserves (on paper) b’cos it’s stinging on expenditure like maintenance of roads and rubbish collection (a recurrent grouse of my blog – S’gor Darul Sampah).
re: “the fact that the Federal machinery was interfering in the states in question”
Did the Fed Govt ask Kedah to increase the Malay quota in housing purchase?
re: “However what is of importance is that PR has finally changed the nature of discourse in this country.”
Pakatan has changed the discourse to the Politics of Hate and Slander.
Re: “If anyone really believes this saying that why the fear of a PR takeover?”
If the more things change, they more they stay the same, then why bother with ‘Ubah’ to just get more on the same and in a more virulent form? It’s not a fear of a PR takeover, it’s a rejection.
re: “If things remain the same, then why should it matter who rules?”
Things remaining the same and becoming worse in the same way, e.g. Pakatan slags BN’s communal politics but the version they practise is more pronounced.
re: “And why bring up Egypt? If we are a contender for the best democracy in the world why not bring up, oh, I don’t know, the United States or ….Sweden.”
Egypt is a Muslim country. USA and Sweden are not. Pakatan has been calling for an Arab Spring, a type of “change” that is not relevant to USA and Sweden.
re: “UMNO used to say that street protest would lead to Armageddon and violence …”
The street protests with Chinese participation replays the street protests of 1969.
re: “And it really does not matter if PR shot them down. That is their job as an Opposition which seeks power.”
Their job as the Opposition is to oppose, oppose, oppose even proposals that are beneficial.
re: “We all say we want bi partisanship but has UMNO ever attempted to seek this out.”
Nor has Pakatan. In fact, I’d say that DAP and PKR are much worse in their inability to cross partisan lines.
re: “His so called transformation programs are floundering”
Did the opposition and the Chinese (90 percent of whom are in the oppo) ever lend their support to see the GTP and ETP through?
re: “he does not seem to have to political will”
With both sides (Umno ultras and Chinese oppositionists who oppose x3 every single damn thing) constantly bashing him, how in the world is Najib to acquire the political heft to impose the requisite political will?
re: “to enforce whatever changes he wishes to make by taking on an intransigent bureaucracy”
Will the same bureaucracy be less intransigent if it were Pakatan sitting in Putrajaya?
Re: “It’s not any change to the System (little or large) that Pakatan is concerned about. What they want is a change in the occupant of Bangunan Perdana Putra, so that it is they who sit there, that’s all. / This is what democracy is all about. It is up to the supporters of the party to see to it that their agendas are implemented.”
Well, if the Dapsters can see that exercising their democratic right to vote 90 percent for the oppo is all about putting their icons as Speakers and Ministers (and not for the Glory of Democracy, Liberty, Equality and Fraternity) then well and good. We’re just exchanging one set of politicians who enjoy the perks of office for another set of politicians even hungrier to lap up the same.
re: “Former PM Badawi … the public spaces were opened up…. Maybe it would start small and grow into something bigger.”
It will grow into a conflagration.
Re: “Since you’re not willing to say it, I will. Anwar was a lousy Education Minister and and even worse Finance Minister.”
Not willing to say it? I have said worse. The same can be said for a great many UMNO ministers.
Re: “Okay. Discourse: “#sahur”, “even tho’ we’re evangelistas but we’re more Muslim than you are, Insya Allah”,…..”
That is part of the discourse. The one you are interested in. It gets a lot of play because it resonates with a certain partisan crowd. Just like how Mkini obsessively trawls through everything, Mahathir says.
There are other issues concerning race, gratitude, economics and laws that have been brought up. The normal response by Establishment partisans to moan for the era when anyone who questions the status quo is locked up.
Re: “Yup, something that MCA and Gerakan have never enjoyed in BN before; the Non Malays in PR suddenly and overnight become Islam experts who petik ayat surah ‘Aura’….”
Again, an issue that gets much play but not the only one. Deaths in custody, corruption in high places, selective prosecutions, the demonization of communities, education, and a whole range of issue that the Non Malays did not get to voice in any meaningful way within BN.
Re: “Since you make this assertion, I hope that you will share with us the relevant excerpts from the AG’s reports on why Pg & S’gor were given good marks.”
Aiyoh, why should I cherry pick to prove my point? Unless you can cite some evidence which demonstrates that PR is irresponsible administrators then why should I trawl through the reports.
The point being that both Selangor and Penang did not fall apart under PR rule which is reflected in the AG reports.
As for Selangor’s cash reserves, that is a common complaint with the Khalid regime. Chinese business interest claim that he does not want to play ball which is why Anwar’s hatchet man Azmin Ali made all sorts of ridiculous suggestions as to who handles the budget.
Of course, you would get complaints about maintenance and the like, as if such issues was glorious under the BN administration.
As for Penang you may be right but at the end of the day, with a stroke of pen is something which is not unheard of with UMNO. Nadeswaran spent years exposing the shenanigans esp. in Selangor and he should do the same for PR.
Re: “I’m interested in what you think Umno is attempting to do currently…”
I’ll have more after the UMNO elections. As it is I see nothing but infighting leading up to a Night of the Long Knives. As to who will perpetrate this remains to be seen.
Re:” Did the Fed Govt ask Kedah to increase the Malay quota in housing purchase?”
No it did not and I would remind you that it was something that I brought up in this very blog. But the Federal government has for decades been messing around with quotas that now UMNO partisans think that a quota system is enshrined in the Constitution. Why do you write as if I am blind to the faults of PR ?
Re:” Pakatan has changed the discourse to the Politics of Hate and Slander.”
You act as if hate and slander were unknown in Malaysian politics before PR. The fact is now PR is using the same tactics as UMNO.
Re:”If the more things change, they more they stay the same, then why bother with ‘Ubah’ to just get more on the same and in a more virulent form? It’s not a fear of a PR takeover, it’s a rejection.”
I was not making this argument, you were. I think the very fact that someone like Dr.Jeyakumar managed to ride the change wave is a good thing. I think the more people questioning the idea of “Malay supremacy” is a good thing.
Rejection is part of the democratic process; if you do not like PR do not vote for them. Do not ever attempt to threaten others into not voting for them.
Re: “Things remaining the same and becoming worse in the same way, e.g. Pakatan slags BN’s communal politics but the version they practise is more pronounced.”
You see it that way. The hate was already there. Now it is just in the open. Former PM Badawi says that UMNO has to reform.
Re: “Egypt is a Muslim country. USA and Sweden are not. Pakatan has been calling for an Arab Spring, a type of “change” that is not relevant to USA and Sweden.”
Apparently, the King Rat in his latest book, said there is no such thing as a progressive Islamic country. That under UMNO there has been an Arabization process that has been detrimental to this country.
While PR may call for an Arab spring of some kind, the fact remains that it was Najib himself that said that he wanted Malaysia to be the best democracy in the world. If that is the case, you compare with the best not the worst.
Re: “The street protests with Chinese participation replays the street protests of 1969.”
And yet there was no violence….maybe because the Chinese and Malays and Indians stood together and the PDRM did their job. How strange.
Re: “Their job as the Opposition is to oppose, oppose, oppose even proposals that are beneficial.”
Huh ? You act as if UMNO needed the support of the Opposition to implement these beneficial policies. If it is so beneficial just implement-lah and the results will speak for itself.
All the BN component parties did were to submit, submit, submit even to policies which were detrimental to this country.
Maybe they thought they were Muslims but without the Christian agendas of the HYs or OKMs.
Re: “Nor has Pakatan. In fact, I’d say that DAP and PKR are much worse in their inability to cross partisan lines.”
I disagree. I think they do a far better job muddling along partisan lines than anything the BN did.
Re:” Did the opposition and the Chinese (90 percent of whom are in the oppo) ever lend their support to see the GTP and ETP through?
Again, why should they ? If UMNO wanted to implement such policies, they certainly did not need the Opposition or the Chinese to do it.
They never needed them to implement other polices or whatever they are cooking up in Putrajaya.
Re: “With both sides (Umno ultras and Chinese oppositionists who oppose x3 every single damn thing) constantly bashing him, how in the world is Najib to acquire the political heft to impose the requisite political will?”
How did Mahathir acquire the political will ? If Najib can’t figure it out maybe he should not lead UMNO and if UMNO gets an “ultra” in his place, then we will just have to see how far the rabbit hole goes.
Re: Will the same bureaucracy be less intransigent if it were Pakatan sitting in Putrajaya?
Who knows? If the Putrajaya has a strong lead, anything is possible.
Maybe if the bureaucracy understands that governments can and do change and that their jobs depends on efficiency they would become less intransigent.
Re:” We’re just exchanging one set of politicians who enjoy the perks of office for another set of politicians even hungrier to lap up the same.”
The same could be said for the majority of Malays. This point of course does nothing for either of our arguments.
Re: “It will grow into a conflagration.”
Only if people in control want it to.
Re: “[lousy] The same can be said for a great many UMNO ministers.”
Umno ministers are not held up as any sort of paragon of virtue. Anwar belongs to the (sarc.) Competent-Accountable-Transparent and other shiny traits camp. Therefore he must be measured against the CAT-other shiny traits yardstick. Epic fail.
Re: “There are other issues concerning race, gratitude, economics and laws that have been brought up.”
Race: Yup, Bangsa Malaysia is Chinese never mind if the father is Indian. (Beats me why they’re making a fuss about Dr M’s ancestry.)
Gratitude: We pay 90 percent of the country’s income tax what. So Malaysia should be grateful to us.
Economics: Developers Assist Party
Laws: Keep all the old laws. We want Ibrahim Ali charged under the Sedition Act.
Re: Deaths in custody, corruption in high places, selective prosecutions, the demonization of communities, education, and a whole range of issue that the Non Malays did not get to voice in any meaningful way within BN.
Deaths in custody: Don’t recall Iguana mentioning this.
Corruption in high places: Does the ROS investigation of the DAP-CEC count?
Selective prosecutions: You must get more details from Shamshul Anuar viz. his complaints that Penang Malay hawkers and traders have been selectively targeted.
Demonization of communities: Kesian the mamaks and Bangladeshis
re: “The point being that both Selangor and Penang did not fall apart under PR rule which is reflected in the AG reports.”
Some readers of this blog want Penang to float away …
re: “complaints about maintenance and the like, as if such issues was glorious under the BN administration”
BN had better rubbish collection. Prior to Pakatan’s takeover, I’ve never complained about such a problem.
Re: “As it is I see nothing but infighting leading up to a Night of the Long Knives. As to who will perpetrate this remains to be seen.”
Knives on whom?
Re: “Why do you write as if I am blind to the faults of PR?”
B’cos you still think PR is the lesser of the two evils.
Re: “You act as if hate and slander were unknown in Malaysian politics before PR. The fact is now PR is using the same tactics as UMNO.”
Pakatan has raised it to unprecedented levels.
Re: “if you do not like PR do not vote for them. Do not ever attempt to threaten others into not voting for them”
If Dapsters do not like BN there’s no need to criminally intimidate Michelle Yeoh, Lee Chong Wei, the Monash girl in the detergent ad, and a host of others. Pot calling the kettle black.
Re: “The hate was already there. Now it is just in the open.”
And is what Pakatan has done in the last several years better than how BN has handled things in the last several decades?
Re: “the fact remains that it was Najib himself that said that he wanted Malaysia to be the best democracy in the world”
Najib has said plenty other things. I don’t see that Pakatan supporters take his words to such heart as the phrase “best democracy in the world”.
Re: “And yet there was no violence…. maybe because the Chinese and Malays and Indians stood together and the PDRM did their job. How strange.”
The Chinese and Malays were in separate communal clusters. If you have to carry a placard to declare, then it’s fake/wannabe. Like a billionaire, the richer he is, the more quietly his money speaks. And the Indians didn’t stand together in the demos. Nobody wanna friend the Indian lah (photo below).
Re: “If it is so beneficial just implement-lah and the results will speak for itself.”
Najib has tried to “implement” the doing away of the EO (which I agree with). So easy meh for the PM to just implement-lah without a broad-based support?
Re: “All the BN component parties did were to submit, submit, submit even to policies which were detrimental to this country.”
I consider hudud detrimental and DAP has submitted / objected, submitted / objected, waffled — like a colour-changing chameleon, the evangelista political animal can’t make up its mind.
Re:” Did the opposition and the Chinese (90 percent of whom are in the oppo) ever lend their support to see the GTP and ETP through? / Again, why should they ? If UMNO wanted to implement such policies, they certainly did not need the Opposition or the Chinese to do it.”
“Again, why should they?” The loosening is to the benefit of the Chinese. Like the Malayan Union was to the benefit of the non-Malays. Don’t want to support MU, don’t want to support Najib and declaring there’s no reason to support, then Cina punya pasal lah. Jangan menyesal nanti dan merengek udah.
Re: “How did Mahathir acquire the political will ? If Najib can’t figure it out maybe he should not lead UMNO and if UMNO gets an ‘ultra’ in his place, then we will just have to see how far the rabbit hole goes.”
The Malays are hankering for a Mahathir to return to the helm. Since the Chinese are so keen to destroy Najib, they may get what they wish for (a reversion to a Mahathir template).
Re: “Will the same bureaucracy be less intransigent if it were Pakatan sitting in Putrajaya? / Who knows? If the Putrajaya has a strong lead, anything is possible.”
Good. Let’s clone Dr M for Round 2 reprise.
Re: “Umno ministers are not held up as any sort of paragon of virtue.”
Actually, they are by many BN partisans, only PR partisans think otherwise.
However, I have no problem with people holding PR up to the standards they claim to have. I do it very often.
Re: “Race: Yup, Bangsa Malaysia is Chinese never mind if the father is Indian. (Beats me why they’re making a fuss about Dr M’s ancestry.)
No-lah that is the propaganda like 1Malaysia. When you have UMNO blaming the Chinese for its own problems interesting discussion on race crops up.
Not to mention the whole Indian issue when it comes to Oppositional politics.
Re: “Gratitude: We pay 90 percent of the country’s income tax what. So Malaysia should be grateful to us.”
Or that the Non Malays should be grateful for living in this country and should just shut their mouths and not talk about the systemic dysfunction.
Re:”Economics: Developers Assist Party”
Or rent seeking politics of UMNO or the culture of money politics that former PM decried as one of the factors afflicting the Malay community.
Re”Laws: Keep all the old laws. We want Ibrahim Ali charged under the Sedition Act.”
Or maybe just don’t apply them selectively. Alternatively, y’know, use it to keep a journalist under protective custody for her own safety.
Re: “Deaths in custody: Don’t recall Iguana mentioning this.”
Actually, I think he has but no matter there are many others in PR who have made this their cause.
Re ”Corruption in high places: Does the ROS investigation of the DAP-CEC count?”
They should and they should also investigate the screw up and moneys politics that happen in UMNO GE’s.
Re: “Selective prosecutions: You must get more details from Shamshul Anuar viz. his complaints that Penang Malay hawkers and traders have been selectively targeted.”
Which is just as important as those selective prosecutions that go on with Opposition politicians and your average Non Malay citizen.
Re”Demonization of communities: Kesian the mamaks and Bangladeshis”
And the Non Malays who are constantly told they are pendatangs and should be grateful or else blood will run.
Re: BN had better rubbish collection. Prior to Pakatan’s takeover, I’ve never complained about such a problem”
Strange I always had complaints. I have complaints now but the situation has improved a great deal. In fact my complaints were taken much more seriously now.
Re:” Knives on whom?”
I am not sure which camp in UMNO would perpetrate a knight of the long knives on the other first, Najib’s or his adversaries.
Re” B’cos you still think PR is the lesser of the two evils”
But by this definition I should be aware of the faults of PR and not blind to them.
Re:” Pakatan has raised it to unprecedented levels”
I do not think so. I think UMNO is doing pretty well in this department, too.
Re:” If Dapsters do not like BN there’s no need to criminally intimidate Michelle Yeoh, Lee Chong Wei, the Monash girl in the detergent ad, and a host of others. Pot calling the kettle black.”
100% agree with you on this. I think this is abhorrent behavior and despise it when the Red Bean Militia do it .
Re:” And is what Pakatan has done in the last several years better than how BN has handled things in the last several decades? “
I think so or at least they are more open to discussion than “mama said lock you up” attitude of UMNO.
Re:” Najib has said plenty other things. I don’t see that Pakatan supporters take his words to such heart as the phrase “best democracy in the world”.”
Because this phrase is reflective of how disingenuous his attempts at making this country a functional multiracial democracy is.
Re:” The Chinese and Malays were in separate communal clusters. If you have to carry a placard to declare, then it’s fake/wannabe. Like a billionaire, the richer he is, the more quietly his money speaks. And the Indians didn’t stand together in the demos. Nobody wanna friend the Indian lah (photo below).”
I was at many of these demos and it wasn’t that way at all. Sure there were communal clusters but there was also a very healthy mixing around. You may say it is fake but I don’t think so, esp not with the average Malaysian. Nobody wants to friend the Indian because the Establishment attacks have been towards the Chinese/Malay dynamic of PR. However I have posted extensively of my criticisms wrt to Indian participation in PR.
Re: Najib has tried to “implement” the doing away of the EO (which I agree with). So easy meh for the PM to just implement-lah without a broad-based support?”
Who says he needs broad based support ? When did any UMNO PM need broad based support, esp from the Opposition.
Re:” I consider hudud detrimental and DAP has submitted / objected, submitted / objected, waffled — like a colour-changing chameleon, the evangelista political animal can’t make up its mind.”
Actually the DAP is on record as saying that it will never agree to the implementation of Hudud. This is one of the agree to disagree points within PR.
Re: “Don’t want to support MU, don’t want to support Najib and declaring there’s no reason to support, then Cina punya pasal lah. Jangan menyesal nanti dan merengek udah.”
If Najib/UMNO were the only Malay power structure in play, then this make sense. As it is, they are not. Even former PM makes note of this. Why should the Chinese menyesal ? They are not in the cabinet and they seem to
be doing just fine.
Re” The Malays are hankering for a Mahathir to return to the helm. Since the Chinese are so keen to destroy Najib, they may get what they wish for (a reversion to a Mahathir template).”
Maybe. I am sure that this will just stir up non UMNO Malays as well.
Re: Good. Let’s clone Dr M for Round 2 reprise”
Hell no, as you said even he could not up end a whole culture.
They come from the same mould. What change can you expect.
Conrad. Am ready to go to the Moon on LKY’s latest misinformation ! Watch my lips ! Akan datang !
I certainly hope so.
Also pay special attention the Q&A session.
Apparently in the book he implies that the talent in Malaysia resides in the minority community which is why the country is going down the shithole because of talent incontinence……
I wonder how the minority Malays in Singapore think of this considering the KR says that homogenous countries are more cohesive but claims that Malaysia – Malays – would only produce a dysfunctional Islamic state.
Edit to correct:
……but implies that Malaysia – Malays – would only produce a dysfunctional Islamic state.
(Sorry but I am working on second hand info here)
Pakatan is not the better option. The people rooting for Pakatan are people who just want the BN to go away. Some want the BN to go away via the ballot box. Then there are those who want the BN to go away through violent means. These are the ABU people.
What these Pakatan people don’t know is that the more they attack BN/Umno, the more the Malays will unite under the Malay Supremacy Umbrella.
Pakatan will not come to power even if they win the next GE. The Malay supremacists in Umno, PKR and Pas will not allow this to happen. In fact, I dare say that the Malay supremacists, the Ultras, they will consolidate under a single, new political entity.
The Malays are aware of what’s happening. They know that whoever wins the GE, forms the government, they know the winners will have to cater to the demands of the Malays.
Should Malays demand that all Malay based political parties unite under a single umbrella, the Malay based parties know they have no other option. They will unite.
There will be no paralysis or indecision. The Malay based parties will simple come together. The Chinese miscalculated in GE13. Not only Umno/BN Malays are wary of the Chinese community, the Malays in Pakatan too have reasons to be wary of the Chinese. The Pakatan Malays know that if the Malay vote is divided, they too will become easy pickings of the Chinese.
So what’s going to happen in GE14 ? If the Malay based parties know that they are under threat, they will come together. Its as simple as that.
Then it will become more exciting. The much talked about backlash against the Chinese will really take place.
Tak percaya ? Tak apa. Tunggu dan lihat sajalah.
Now they make noises about being discriminated because the Melaka state government decreed that Jonker Walk be open for traffic, they complained about the decline of the number of Chinese applicants being accepted into public universities.
You wait. Things are about to get really exciting.
re: “Pakatan will not come to power even if they win the next GE. The Malay supremacists in Umno, PKR and Pas will not allow this to happen. In fact, I dare say that the Malay supremacists, the Ultras, they will consolidate under a single, new political entity.”
I’m of the same mind with your reading of the situation with just one small difference.
Yes, the Malays will consolidate under a single political entity. But it won’t need to be a new one. The PKR Malays will simply return to Umno from whence they came.
PAS too was the ulama breakaway faction of Umno. Those whose outlook is like Hasan Ali and Ustaz Nasha could drift to Umno, leaving PAS still intact but weaker.
‘Yes, the Malays will consolidate under a single political entity. But it won’t need to be a new one. The PKR Malays will simply return to Umno from whence they came.
PAS too was the ulama breakaway faction of Umno. Those whose outlook is like Hasan Ali and Ustaz Nasha could drift to Umno, leaving PAS still intact but weaker.’
On the ball, there, Helen.
Ms H. We do not need LKY to tell us all this which we know for umpteenth ages.
Ms H. At the rate the Chinese are being gathered into Red Chinese (MCA+CHINA) and Blue Chinese (Singapore Trojan Horse DAP=PAP=USA), the very rich PKR and the very pious PAS are being pushed aside by their associates DAP in a flanking movement. LKY said so in his latest book. All the Malays will now support UMNO. There are now 3 types of Chinamen and women in Malaysia, Malaysian Chinese, Red Chinese and Blue Chinese. I have not read the book but it seems LKY in his mellow moment recognises he cannot shout ‘Malaysia for Malaysians’ or ‘Singapore for Singaporeans’ anymore. He should have recognised this fact in 1964 and not ini 2013 ! AND MADE DAP WAIT 47 LONG YEARS CONTEMPLATING THEIR NAVELS DOING NOTHING FOR THE MALAYS, CHINESE, INDIANS AND ALL !
I agree with you. When push comes to shove the malays will stand together. Hidup melayu.
“This (Pakatan), he said, was an opportunistic and adhoc group not held together by even a vaguely coherent set of ideas but by a common desire to unseat the government.
“As long as it does not actually hold the reins of the federal government and therefore does not have to implement the said multiracial policies, some semblance of unity can be maintained.
When it comes to the crunch, Lee said, Pakatan would not be able to do away with Malay suprem(a)cy.
“The moment the bluff is called and it is handed the full power to push ahead, it will either be torn apart within or be paralysed by indecision.”
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2013/08/07/kuan-yew-on-najib-1malaysia-and-pakatan/
I believe ol’ Harry the Hatchet Man is right.
TMI‘s copy of the story is in plainer English.
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/its-malay-rule-so-no-difference-if-bn-or-pakatan-in-power-argues-lee-kuan-y
Excerpt below also from the TMI article:
Now let’s see the Dapsters spin this.
Surely Lee KY needs to do something to disassociate himself with the pact. AK47, sir, in a way kudos to you for keeping the context going…especially for the orang muda macam saya and other here. Muda daripada you la, of course.
Lee KY is also telling the DAP what they had actually learned by themselves, post GE13: Without the Malays (Malay Supremacy is you must), not one group, PR or BN(?) can ever dreamed of governing Malaysia. Period. Like it or not, that is realpolitik for all of us here.
Islam1st. MAYBE THE BRILLIANT LEE KUAN YEW WITH HIS 9 FAILED POLICIES FOR SINGAPORE IS GIVING A HIDDEN SIGNAL IN HIS LATEST BOOK FOR THE SINGAPOREAN TROJAN HORSE DAP TO JOIN THE BN. What say you ? OR IS IT WISHFUL THINKING. INTERESTING THING TO NOTE IS THE REDS (MCA) AND THE BLUES (DAP) are now competing to be UMNO’S BRIDE, take it or leave it. AKAN DATANG. China first or America first. Dim Sum or Hamburger you like ? I like nasi lemak !!! Ladies & Gentlemen, see the importance of our beloved Malaysia as a strategic choke point in world’s geo-politics in a country full of good people and natural resources. IF WE PLAY IT CUTE WE CAN HAVE BOTH BEEF DIM SUM AND BEEF HAMBURGER !
Why? One word – HYPOCRITE
Islam1st. LKY forever wants to punch above his weight with his one-street town with a full Cabinet of Ministers who are paid the highest wages plus a full fledged army, F-35, rusting tanks, subs, spies, AWACS and Apaches etc. This is all 20th century stuff. Now, we battle it out in cyberspace and he is still writing his books. He has one of the biggest egos on the Planet. He hates to lose AND THE SINGAPOREAN TROJAN HORSE DAP IS A LOSER UNTIL THEY JOIN THE BN AS LED BY THE UMNO WITH THE 13 COMPONENT PARTIES. It is good all you ladies and gentlemen took note what I have been saying about the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew with his 9 failed Policies for Singapore. It is also good I note that my fellow compatriots talk sense except for one on this distinguished Blog. Without information we are blind. With information we can see the future.
Lee Kiasu Yee!
TYPO (penang lang maa, can’t help it!)
Lee Kiasu Jew!
Re: “Now let’s see the Dapsters spin this”
They most probably would do it stupidly, like how BN partisans acknowledge that “Malay supremacy” would not change under a PR administration but at the same time claim that PR would destroy the ‘Malay” race.
Not to mention that the very concept of supremacy is odious and attempts have been made by the Establishment to publically at least retreat from this concept.
Harry Lee is the King Rat, who knows that as long as he can spit on UMNO and at the same time spit on PR, Singapore as a client state of the US and most probably a proxy to China, would be in a better position to reap whatever rewards from the status quo.
He is deathly afraid that a diverse range of interests competing within a possible PR Federal government would be anathema to the compliant interest of a Malay preoccupied UMNO government.
Dig deeper into the KR’s arguments and you will find it devoid of any substance and most probably fallacious. Take this whole supremacy issue.
As I mentioned before PR goes on about a needs based affirmative action program. Anwar reassures the Malay community that even with such a program the Malay community will still “benefit the most”.
While I may have some issues with this, it is plain to everyone else, that Malay supremacy via affirmative action programs would remain intact. Hopefully what would change is that people who actually “need” it would not be side-lined.
After all the country that benefitted most from all those “leakages” is most probably Singapore.
Edit to correct:
….that “Malay supremacy” (sic) via affirmative action programs would remain intact
Ms H. IS’NT THIS A MESSAGE FROM LKY TO HIS MALAYSIAN COHORTS IN THE SINGAPOREAN TROJAN HORSE DAP TO DECAMP FROM THEIR VERY RICH PKR AND THE VERY PIOUS PAS ?
CheDebt. You are right. For the very first time LKY does his utmost to tell us all the bare truth like pouring oil onto a fire he thinks. But we are all HAVING A SLUGFEST WITH THE OPPO with words and winning. His take on the PR is gentle compare with the very real situation at hand. New Christians in the Singaporean Trojan Horse DAP join hands with Ulamas to kick out the BN as led by the UMNO with the 13 component parties which actually protects the New Christians ! LKY must be joking !
Don’t know why the Malays hate DAP so much. OKM already bersahur and berpuasa like Malays. HY also wear tudung mah. Then recently, Penang DAP government dished out half month Hari Raya bonus to state civil servants who are largely Malays. DAP looks to me, is all out placating Malays, why still not happy?
PS: Sarcastic comment here, please don’t bash me ah. Btw, this is the first time I saw a multi-blades scissor (courtesy of the picture up there), I thought it’s some photoshopped picture. Gotta find one of those.
Why? One word – HYPOCRITE
I wonder under which tree will this the so-called PR kangaroo court convene?
Gum tree.
Ms H. I have now read LKY’s book which is nothing new. It is like the Pears Encyclopedia of LkY’s sayings. As President Nixon puts it,’Big man in a small place.’ His sayings are the sort of exhortations a normal ruler will urge his subjects. The odd thing is that LKY could put up with this charade of a one-street town for so long with all manner of peoples seeking his advice and his obsession of his failure to conquer our beloved Malaysia by himself or his Singaporean Trojan Horse DAP since 1964. You may recall Singapore has a full Cabinet of Ministers which could govern a medium size country of at least 25 Millions with a full fledged military and spies to boot. Is this all sustainable ? But it is poignant to note that he has now admitted that his PAP/DAP slogan ‘Malaysia for Malaysians’ is flawed after 50 years. He himself cannot even shout ‘Singapore for Singaporeans in Hong Lim Green today’. BUT THE IRONY IS HIS HIDDEN MESSAGE TO THE SINGAPOREAN TROJAN HORSE DAP TO CONSIDER JOINING THE BN AS LED BY THE UMNO WITH THE 13 COMPONENT PARTIES. THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING,’ REALPOLITIK ‘ a political party is formed to rule and not to run around the streets of KL and engage in petty quarrels with Tom Dick or Harry. ALSO, IS THE RED CHINESE -MCA=CHINA
Ms H. Sorry ran out of space. …ALSO ARE THE RED CHINESE, MCA=CHINA OVERTAKEN BY EVENTS LIKE THE HIDDEN MESSAGE OF LKY TO THE BLUE CHINESE SINGAPOREAN TROJAN HORSE DAP. DAP=PAP=AMERICA IN HIS BOOK. THEN, THE TRUE MALAYSIAN CHINESE HAVE AN IMPORTANT ROLE TO PLAY TOO. Akan Datang. Ladies and Gentlemen. This is a quantum leap for Malaysian Politics in our lifetimes ! Have the Red Chinese (MCA=China) been outmaneuvered by LKY=DAP=PAP=America IN THIS GREAT GAME TO CONTROL OUR BELOVED MALAYSIA WHICH IS THE MOST STABLE STRATEGIC CHOKE POINT ASTRIDE THE STRAITS OF MELAKA AND THE SOUTH CHINA SEA IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD ?
I would cheekily suggest to the BN as led by the UMNO with the 13 component parties to take both MCA=China and DAP=America as brides. What say you Ms H.? Like Admiral Cheng He of the 16th century ! History repeats itself ! What goes round comes around !!!
Ms H. I have finally read LKY’s latest book. It is something like Pears Encyclopedia as created by LKY. As President Nixon puts it,’ Big man in a small place ! ‘ Nothing new which we do not know and confirms what I said about Singapore tearing down places of worship in the 1970s. What he said is just a normal person way of doing thing