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Pecat sahaja MCA

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Hari ini pengarang The Star Online mempromo politikus DAP lagi.

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Rencana Philip (gambar atas) bertajuk ‘Getting personal with Zairil‘.

Disiarkan juga hari ini sebuah kolum bertajuk ‘Let Malaysia be colour-blind‘ oleh Rashvinjeet S. Bedi.

Rashvin, wartawan yang diberikan ruang pojok oleh The J-Star, menulis: “We should all look at ourselves as Malaysians first and foremost who want the same things.”
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Sebelum ini, ulasan Rashvin telah memperlekehkan filem Tanda Putera. (Baca, ‘J-Star takes potshots at Tanda Putera)

Dr Novandri Hasan Basri memblog tadi:

“Apakah masaalahnya dengan akhbar The STAR, milik parti MCA? Akhbar itu diragui fahaman politiknya waiau pun akhbar itu milik komponen Barisan Nasional.”

Akhbar itu tidaklah diragui fahaman politiknya. Ia pro-DAP. Pasca-PRU13, The Star Bintang Lima sudah tidak lagi menyembunyikan kecenderongannya untuk menjiwai evangelista.

Sesebuah suratkhabar itu sememangnya bebas dan berhak untuk memihak kepada mana-mana parti politik yang disanjungi mereka kerana Malaysia negara demokrasi.

Memandangkan The Sneaky Star itu sarang Dapster maka minat serta nada liputan yang begitu teruja dengan puak pembangkang sudahpun boleh dijangka.

Menjawab soalan Dr Novandri: “Apakah masalahnya dengan akhbar The Star, milik parti MCA?

Masalah sebenarnya terletak pada MCA.

Dan masalah ini mampu ditangani. Tendang keluar sahaja petualang yang tidak layak untuk kekal dalam BN.

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Ulasan Tanda Putera: Pembangkang keluar penyapu lagi

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161 thoughts on “Pecat sahaja MCA

  1. To Kick Out, or Not To Kick Out. That’s the question.

    Another Malay Dilemma.

    Scenario 1 = To Kick Out MCA

    Justification = MCA=J-STAR=DAP = Doing The Right Thing

    Scenario 2 = Not To Kick Out MCA

    Justification = Doing Thing Right

    To avoid the following repercussion

    a. MCA would have wanted it that way; so why let them have the satisfaction;
    b. The opposition will go to town with the news;
    c. UMNO is racist (as if it would make any different after PRU13)

    Kesian peminpin-peminpin MELAYU/UMNO, dah lah dibebankan dengan tanggungjawab menjaga amanah dan kebajikan orang Islam dan Melayu, kini ditambah pula beban menanggung Biawak Hidup@ Anak Haram (Anak Haram sebab kerusi dimenangi MCA adalah atas belas ikhsan orang Islam Melayu).

    Whether UMNO/BN likes it or not, the party has to let MCA dies of natural death by taking back all the seats in Malay majority constituencies won by MCA all this while in PRU14. MCA has to SWIM or SINK in the next PRU in the Cina DAP majority constituencies.

    As for the J-STAR, UMNO/BN has 2 options

    Option 1 = Take over the J-Star via open market

    Option 2 = Just officially declare that J-STAR is “SUARA DAP”

      1. Who will be the right person to declare or make the official announcement? Definitely not Najib. As always, he is the official Santa Clause peddling good news all over town the last time I check, which is fine with me frankly. As I said time and again “Najib will always be Najib”.

        It has to be someone from within and with “sebulat suara” (the word “unanimously” won’t capture the essence and magnanimity of the “Ultra Malay” message).

        1. Zahid as Umno vice-president.

          While Umno need not make it official that MCA dipecat, leaving them out of Cabinet (give the Transport portfolio to a Sabah or Sarawak native party) and out of state excos and out of the BN activities should be adequate in conveying to MCA the message that the party has been cold storaged.

          Lepas tu MCA harus faham-faham lah as it’s a given (saya bagi jaminan) that the Chinese party will lose every single seat it contests in GE14 unless that seat is Malay majority.

          1. Re. Zahid

            Entahlah… kalau selalu mematuk akan hilang bisa. It has to be someone out of the blue that will send the shock wave, like DPM maybe. I know Cina DAP tak suka DPM.

          2. Helen,

            “cold storage”. Ha ha.

            MCA is dying actually. It would have been dead in 2008 had not for life support from UMNO.

            UMNO “immortalises” the saying “menanggung biawak hidup”. Again, if I come across UMNO leaders I may want to ask them what is it that they are so willing to defend a party that waging war against them.
            Dont tell me that is a “blue Ocean” strategy.

            To me it is a case of ‘menempah maut”.

              1. “Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity trust upon them.”
                ― Joseph Heller

            1. Re. Dont tell me that is a “blue Ocean” strategy.

              Haven’t you heard about Window Dressing?

              Memang menjengkelkan dalam kes ini, tapi apa nak buat, you can’t just further drag down the perception rating.

    1. Nasihat saya pada pemimpin UMNO/BN tentang MCA:

      Baiklah Baik Pegang Kemudi
      Janganlah Sampai Terlanggar Parang
      Baiklah Baik Kita Berbudi
      Janganlah Sampai Dikata Orang

      [YouTube]

        1. Re. “jangan habis madu sepah dibuang..”…!

          MCA telah hampir sampai ketahap itu sebenarnya. Kumpulan the Star itu hanya apa yang kita nampak depan mata aje. Banyak lagi projek-projek kroni BN yang dia orang sapu yang kita tak nampak. Zaman sekarang Politik bukan lagi untuk memperjuangkan nasib rakyat aje tapi turut memenuhkan poket pemimpin-pemimpinnya.

          Kita jangan lupa dari segi sejarah peminpin Melayu, Anwar Ibrahim dan Khairy Jamaluddinlah adalah dua penanda ARAS KORUPSI yang tak ada tolokbadingnya setakat ini.

      1. Nasihat saya pada pengundi:

        Baiklah baik pegang kemudi
        Janganlah sampai terlanggar badai
        Baik lah baik bila mengundi
        jangan sampai negara tergadai

    2. LOL,

      Not “kesian pemimpin UMNO”. But “bodoh”.

      Why i use the term “bodoh?”. Because only a moron would do things called “menanggung biawak hidup?

      The question i want to ask UMNO is why on earth UMNO has to babysit a dying party(MCA) that literally allows its media to lean towards DAP?

      UMNO will gain more respect from Malays (and non Malays) by being firm. It is that simple. Why make things difficult?

      1. Shamsul,

        Saya yakin anda mengundi BN seperti saya dan juga berkongsi kejengkelan dengan tindak tanduk PM Najib. Pada saya, Najib ini keterlaluan dalam menunjukkan transformasinya sehingga beliau agaknya sudah bermimpi menjadi tranformers yang sangat gagah perkasa tu. Malang.. lepas dapat sleepy PM kita dapat dreamer PM..

      2. “UMNO will gain more respect from Malays (and non Malays) by being firm. It is that simple. Why make things difficult?”

        If you think people will respect UMNO more if they become more oppressive, good luck with that.

        1. AC-DC,

          Read my comment. Did i condone oppresion? Did i suggest that UMNO must be cruel. As I said earlier, if that has the intention, UMNO has 56 years to be cruel.

          So, AC-Dc(whatever your name) stop splitting hair. read my comment as it is. Do not waste time thinking what I did not say.

  2. “Helen the MCA Killer” will Sell better than Tanda Putra….
    Finas Should Sponsor this title…Gurantee to make money as well as shut MCA Down MCA !

    1. No. Helen the MCA Killer is too violent. I would not want to watch that.
      I would want to watch the following love stories,

      Khir and Christine – Cinta Sejati XOXO
      Rintihan Rainbow Yang Bercinta
      The Vagina Tweeter Monologue

  3. Mana mungkin BN pecat MCA yg sama-sama mengasaskan PERIKATAN dulu. Biarkan saja MCA dalam BN.

    MCA juga kata tak mahu jawatan dalam Kerajaan. Biarkan saja MCA tidak dapat bersuara dalam Kerajaan.

    MCA punyai akhbar The Star tapi isinya penuh dengan cemuhan tentang BN dan kebaikan PR. Biarkan saja cara MCA memberitahu kita isi hati sebenar MCA yg anti-BN dan pro-PR.

    1. “MCA punyai akhbar The Star tapi isinya penuh dengan cemuhan tentang BN dan kebaikan PR”

      MCA punya UTAR yang penuh dengan tenaga pendidik DAP.

    2. Itu lah yang membeza kan antara penyokong ultra dengan pemimpin. Selalu nya penyokong tak akan berfikir panjang dan akan menyokong buta2 mana2 tokoh yang mereka puja.

      Kalau UMNO tendang MCA, yang akan melompat adalah Tok Guru Nik Aziz. “Tengok! tengok! Ambo dah ghoyak, UMNO tak leh di buat kawan. Bila tak perlu kawan, dia tendang kawan masuk dalam tong sampah. PAS dia pernah tendang, sekarang MCA kawan dah 56 tahun pun dia tendang. Siapa lagi nak cakap pasal UG, sila angkat tangan!”

      1. Re. Kalau UMNO tendang MCA, yang akan melompat adalah Tok Guru Nik Aziz.

        Dia dah tak larat nak melompat katanya. The cancer has reach 4th. stage.

  4. Interesting that Zairil thinks that the DAP needs more “mainstreaming”. What the fuck have they been doing all these decades ? The usual excuse by those damn intellectually feeble or disingenuous apparatchiks is that the DAP needs time to be more inclusive(sic). Or perhaps that Malaysia needs more time to get over race based politics.

    Of course they forget the pioneers of the DAP, the subsequent reorientation of its racial agenda and the contemporary Evangelical preoccupation which is merely another garb of race.

    All those so called treacherous Malays who joined the party were to blame for leaving and not any underlying dogma of the party members.

    And the other article you linked to. Funny how difficult it is for an Indian to get a room in PJ which is basically a DAP stronghold and Chinese dominated.

    Yeah sure, they say UMNO is the only racist game in town. Give me a break.

    1. Edit to add;

      And I find that porcine mug of Philip extremely irritating and distracting. Whoever took that picture must hate him.

    1. But Chong Sin Woon with the Malaysian Chinese Association said there are big discrepancies in the marking system in pre-university courses that has led to a widespread belief that the Chinese and Indians have to work much harder to compete with the Bumiputeras for the same university places.

      “So it’s already an unfair platform even before you apply for university,” said Mr Chong.

      Keywords:
      Chong Sin Woon with the Malaysian Chinese Association! Unfair platform.

  5. To kick MCA out would mean UMNO is ready to forge its political future as a ‘wholesome’ Malay party. Not that their tulen-ness had ever been less considering how they pick their lame duck partners, but still, it is an uphill battle to go forward without the ‘for all’ mantra.

    On the other hand, MCA leaving BN on its own accord would ironically redeem some of its credibility in the eyes of the Chinese. If MCA wants to continue its future as the voice of the Chinese, I see no other way to regain the Chinese trust than do a dramatic exit from BN.

    I for one actually welcome the thought.

    1. Re. to regain the Chinese trust

      What are you smoking ? Pipes ? There’s no such thing as trust among the Chinese. All they have is “what can you do for me ? what’s in it for me ?”

      Trust ?

      Thanks for the early morning coffee.

      1. PPP

        Quote: All they have is “what can you do for me ? what’s in it for me ?”

        Not disputing what you said. Is it wrong for voters, Chinese or otherwise to ask what a political party can deliver?

        1. “Not disputing what you said. Is it wrong for voters, Chinese or otherwise to ask what a political party can deliver?”

          I wish on a star that the DAP CEC new is fair and that all the officials are good in Excel.

          1. Mulan

            Quote: I wish on a star that the DAP CEC new is fair and that all the officials are good in Excel.

            Yes, if not, we’ll have much to talk about. :)

            1. Re. Yes, if not, we’ll have much to talk about. :)

              I m counting on the DAP for this. He he he !!!!!!

        2. Re. s it wrong for voters, Chinese or otherwise to ask what a political party can deliver?

          Ah this. While I don’t dispute the rights of people to ask what a political party can deliver, I do dispute the fact that after the Chinese have rejected the Malaysian Chinese Association and jump into bed with the Democratic Action Party, they still ask the M C A to help them out when they face problems.

          When asked about why they rejected the M C A in GE13, the Chinese said, and continue to say, that the M C A can’t do anything for the Chinese community but when I say, if that is the case, why do you lot still rush to the M C A for help, for instance after Chinese university applicants failed to secure places in public universities, all they can muster is silence.

          Come on, if you, in the back of your mind, already think that the person who you intend to seek help from is so useless, why do you go to him for help ?

          1. PPP

            Quote: “I do dispute the fact that after the Chinese have rejected the Malaysian Chinese Association and jump into bed with the Democratic Action Party, they still ask the M C A to help them out when they face problems.”

            I think something similar along this line has been discussed in another thread. But I’ll have another go at it.

            MCA is a political party. Political parties serve the people and in exchange, ask for their votes. Serving the constituents and the opportunity to continue serving is the yardstick whether a political party is still relevant. Relevance in turn will determine its(the party) future survival.

            There is no need to be angry at the people. Without these people and their selfish needs and demand, political parties would cease to exist.

            How old is DAP? It was registered in 1966. Now, I’m not exactly a fan of the ‘Chinaman politics’ of DAP but, to their credit, if I were to measure them by your logic, DAP’s struggles and rejection through the lean years and eventual rise today would make one hell of an inspiring tale.

            The same could be said of PSM. I bet these old dogs had plenty of scars of rejection to show for.

            It is up to MCA whether they want to give up or soldier on.

          2. And the kid had cried three times…I wonder how many more did the same…

            “I feel very frustrated and very sad. I cried three times…”

          3. Pakatan Puak pembohong,

            Let me summarize chinese mentality. If they need help, they will go to MCA , Michael chong.

            when it comes to voting, they will vote DAP eventhough the DAP candidate is not known or never provide any service.

            1. Tutup sahaja MCA Micheal Chong, Cina boleh pergi jumpa gereja JSubang. Hannah Yeoh kat padai counselling.

    1. Re. MCA will not be kicked out.

      That’s for sure.

      MCA will meet its fate and the end is near for them.

      As I said time and again, to the Chinese is always “DUIT DUIT DUIT”.

      Media Prima should consider take over the Star group as one of its long term strategy. The reason PAP is so successful in Singapore is that they control the media i.e. MediaCorp to be exact.

  6. Saya fikir BN/UMNO tidak mungkin akan memecat MCA kerana parti BN adalah gabungan parti pelbagai kaum. Tiadanya parti wakil Cina akan menjadikan BN sebuah parti yang tidak lengkap bagi mewakili rakyat Malaysia yang berbilang kaum. Memecat MCA secara rasmi boleh mendatangkan pelbagai polemik baru (yang pasti akan dijadikan propaganda oleh kaum Cina DAP) dan ini bakal mencetuskan ketidakstabilan politik dan rakyat akan menjadi mangsa keganasan kaum di negara ini.

    Manakala MCA pula tidak mungkin mengisytiharkan mereka keluar BN kerana mereka sebenarnya dalang/wakil ‘DAP’ di dalam BN. Keluarnya MCA dari BN maknanya akan hilanglah semua dalang/wakil Cina DAP berpakaian MCA di dalam kerajaan dan secara otomatik maklumat sulit kerajaan tidak dapat disalurkan kepada pucuk pimpinan mereka iaitu DAP….

    Inilah dilema BN/UMNO…ditelan mati emak, dibuang mati bapak dan bila dibiar, menjadi duri dalam daging pula…..!

    1. AlwieAbdullah,

      Itu bukan dilema. itu sikap orang penakut dan tidak beriman.

      Kenapa mesati terlalu ambil berat apa orang kata. Bukankah dalam pilihanraya lepas, Najib masih dapat bentuk kerajaan tanpa undi orang cina. KINI pemimpin UMNO tidak lagi mahu kata “undi cina adalah penentu”. KERANA YANG JADI PENENTU IALAH MELAYU JUGA.

      Bukan Melayu atau UMNO yamng tolak orang Cina. merewka yang tolak BN( atau yang penting UMNO). Jadi kenapa mesti rasa bersalah tak tentu hala.

  7. Chua Jr is so unhappy that the Chinese are demonised by May 13 as if the Chinese were like the SS killing good Jews.The best thing of all Anthony Loke agrees.
    http://www.thesun-epaper.com/tue/03092013/index.html

    Strangely enough as I highlighted earlier Japan does not ban Empire of the Sun or Germany banning Schiendler’s List. The Japanese do not feel that they are demonised and billions of Chinese would buy Japaneses TVs to watch their favourite Chinese programs.

    In fact none of our Gen III Chinese feel that Japanese culture is disgusting. Look at how many Japanese movies/programs are on the AEC and Celestial Movies. I don’t see any Chinese boycotting Hello Kitty. What so all is forgiven? But then the Chinese must harp on the May 13 demonising thing?

    In fact wonderful Penang features an annual Japanese festival on a Japanese adminstrative site.
    http://www.penang-vacations.com/fort-cornwallis.html
    http://www.visitpenang.gov.my/portal3/penang-tourism-news/1701-penang-bon-odori-festival-2013.html
    “In its entire history, the fort had never been engaged in any
    battle even when the Japanese took over Penang from the British during World War 2”

    Why no sensitivity? So all is forgiven about WW2. It must be some misunderstanding between the Chinese and the Japanese. Let us have our Hello Kitty mooncake. But the Chinse must not forgiiiive the evil and courrupt UMNO. They are so eviiiiil. Double standards.

    “If MCA wants to continue its future as the voice of the Chinese, I see no other way to regain the Chinese trust than do a dramatic exit from BN.”

    For once I agree with the HH but I will put my caveat.
    Caveat: Leave BN but don’t come crying back. Ever. We don’t entertain Talak Tiga.

    1. Setuju sangat Mulan.

      Tapi saya faham kenapa.

      Apa lagi suka nak buli orang Melayu yang berlembut dengan bangsa-bangsa lain.

      Kalau kat tempat Viking, tak berani kut…

    2. Mulan

      Quote: “Strangely enough as I highlighted earlier Japan does not ban Empire of the Sun or Germany banning Schiendler’s List. ”

      But many Islamic countries including Malaysia find Schiendler’s List ‘sympathetic to the Jewish cause’ and was banned in those respective countries. It is sweet though the little boy in Empire of the Sun was Christian Bale from the Dark Knight.

      Quote:” Why no sensitivity? So all is forgiven about WW2. It must be some misunderstanding between the Chinese and the Japanese. Let us have our Hello Kitty mooncake. But the Chinse must not forgiiiive the evil and courrupt UMNO. They are so eviiiiil. Double standards.”

      It is indeed hard to equate forgiving the Japanese for the sins of their fathers with say, the continued plundering and corrupt practices by ‘you know who’ that impact every Tom, Dick and Harry today.

      cheers

      1. “It is indeed hard to equate forgiving the Japanese for the sins of their fathers with say, the continued plundering and corrupt practices by ‘you know who’ that impact every Tom, Dick and Harry today.”

        OK Dosa UMNO lebih daripada Japanese ethnic cleansing di Malaya, Cina, Korea, Vietnam etc.Japanese ethnic cleansing perkara yang kecil sahaja. Wow!

        Kalau orang Mainland China boleh baca cerita HH, mereka mesti mengamuk.

        1. Mulan

          Quote: “OK Dosa UMNO lebih daripada Japanese ethnic cleansing di Malaya, Cina, Korea, Vietnam etc.Japanese ethnic cleansing perkara yang kecil sahaja. Wow!”

          “Japanese ethnic cleansing perkara yang kecil sahaja”

          Hmm, what makes you arrive at that conclusion for me?

          If, I say if, unforgiveness were to run in my veins, I still would take the effort to get the recipient of my ire right. But I guess that’s just me.

          Nope, I don’t hold the current generation of Japanese accountable for the atrocities of their forefathers. Should anyone? I’m all for a compelling argument.

          The anti-Japanese sentiment still runs high in China. But it makes no difference to me what they think. It’s their prerogative.

    3. “In fact none of our Gen III Chinese feel that Japanese culture is disgusting. Look at how many Japanese movies/programs are on the AEC and Celestial Movies. I don’t see any Chinese boycotting Hello Kitty. What so all is forgiven? But then the Chinese must harp on the May 13 demonising thing?

      Perhaps because Barisan Nasional has been persistently and predictably bring up May 13 into almost every argument? Notice how in many issues, May 13 will be brought up in an attempt to keep critics at hand?

      1. How many times during your conversation with your malay people (if any) that they mention about 13th. may?

        Beside BN, is it true that you never notice or hear any talk about 13th. may from oppo esp DAP? Never! that’s why you believe what you believe now.

          1. Read carefully.. I never said that you write malay people..

            I’m asking about how many times your have nice conversation with your malay people (friends.. if any).. that they mention about May 13..

            If you refuse to answer, that’s your right.. choosing to spin just make you look alike Dapster..

            1. My Malay friends never bring up May 13. But when I debate with the Barisan Nasional people, they will almost always attempt to bring up the riots as an attempt to twist an issue into a racial issue, despite the lack of relation.

              1. Well its the same with street demos. Street demos lead to violence…..or promiscuous sex. Funny thing is it leads to neither. However wrt to the latter, on an anecdotal level….

              2. My chinese friend also never bring up this May 13..

                I’m suggest you don’t debate with this type of people that keep twisting their word and please don’t judge all BN people just because you are not so lucky being surrounded by that twisted people..

                1. ‘just because you are not so lucky being surrounded by that twisted people..’

                  It says a lot about whom ACDC is! Kwang Kwang!

                  Bird of a feather, flocks together!

                  Patutla Twisted!

                2. I know there are some good fellows in Barisan Nasional who are more moderate. A lot of them get attacked by the extremist faction as part of the internal strife and power struggle going about. It also happens that they worry the old guard who are hesitant to change in thinking and fear of younger upstarts overtaking them.

                  “islam1st”, nampaknya awak gagal matapelajaran Bahasa Inggeris semasa di bangku sekolah.

      2. “Perhaps because Barisan Nasional has been persistently and predictably bring up May 13 into almost every argument”

        And PKR, DAP, PAS, Dong Zong, Perkasa too are guilty of the same form of argument.

    4. i think u understand the chinese history and sentiment solely from movies, n that is y yr comment always sound like rhymes with fantasy n illusion. just guessing.

        1. why is it that you often feel the need to bring melayu n race into the discussion? to show off yr ‘talent’?

            1. BTW you guys yang racists accusing Mulan as Melayu simply because she had a different take of things! I mirroring what, itupun lu mau komplen, kiasu!

            2. let’s review the tape and see what I said.

              “i think u understand the chinese history and sentiment solely from movies, n that is y yr comment always sound like rhymes with fantasy n illusion. just guessing.”

              n this is yr reply “Mulan is Melayu”

              if nothing else, r u not capable of the common courtesy of reading before speaking/writing? but this is no surprise from one that recycle everything, particularly stupidity.

        1. atuk, your best comment so far, yes keep it short n simple so the readers dont have to waste their time reading hmmm… rubbish?

            1. HY. YOU HAVE NOW OPENLY ADMITTED YOU ARE A RACIST. You look Chinese but hollow, argumentative English educated and without cultural ballast – in other words, a chinaman below 40 in our beloved Malaysia. SEE HOW YOU REVEALED YOURSELF. Rubbish !

      1. “I think u understand the chinese history and sentiment solely from movies”

        I think u understand the malay and german and japanese history and sentiment solely from movies. HY tunjuk satu jari dapat tiga pulak. islam 1st, kita nak ketawa terbahak-bahak.

        1. imitation is the highest form of flattery, thanks for showing yr dearth of originality, that is the common problem with movie aficionado who dont read, or cant read.

          1. HY should benefit from the new education blueprint that supports good usage of the English language.
            Better still he should enrol at the British Council before commenting on this blog. Oh My English!

            1. when u r not writing fantasies, u sound so boring, u shd continue what u do best, talk movie n write fantasy.

        1. ask u simple question u r not able to provide answer, tell u yr thesis is unsubstantiated u buat tak tahu aje, macam i’m speaking to a person who cannot hear, and writing to a person who cannot read. is it due to aged, or daft? more likely both.

            1. HY. Write something like Conrad, HH, ismail1st etc your peers. Not something you choked after 1 simple and crude sentence. Rubbish.

            2. i am not here to impress u, i am here to expose yr (n folks like u) “arguments” for the stupidity they represent. besides, an impressed from u isn’t worth a lot.

              1. HY. You Chinese Chauvinist of the worst kind if you are not trying to impress by talking rubbish who are you trying to ? Your ancestors in Tong San ? Rubbish !

                1. my ancestor share the same native place with chinese like wong feihung n kang youwei. what about yr ancestor? they must felt very proud being the lackey of lord palmerston n harry parkes the blitish drug pushers, n thought they were from westminster?

                  1. HY. Talk decent. Talk well. Like LOL, PPP, Mulan, Helen, Islam1st, Conrad, AC-DC, Sarah etc. Dont talk like you got 2 big marbles in your mouth. Garbled !

                    1. HY. The way you behave on this honourable Blog – your ancestors in Tong San will beat your flat head with a pair of Bata slippers made in Klang !

    5. I think there are a couple of issues here to wit, Schindler’s List cannot be banned in Germany because it would go against the Holocaust denial laws. While Empire of the Sun is not banned, there have been numerous controversies of historical revision in Japanese text books – the white washing of the Rape of Nanking (another Holocaust example) for instance.

      I do not think it is accurate to describe the Sino-Japanese relationships as anything approaching “forgiven”. There have been numerous anti Japanese demonstration in China fuelled by a generation realizing it is approaching a kind of economic cold war (and not forgetting the atrocities of the second world war) with China and in fact Japan is opening more embassies in Africa to counter Chinese presence there.China remains a sweet spot for trade around the world and this includes Japan.

      But why signal out the Malaysian Chinese and pointing out a love for Japanese culture as being “forgiving” of past atrocities. The Malays suffered too and Malaysia has extremely robust trade ties with Japan. Elements of Japanese culture such as anime, comics etc are a hit with Malay youths as well. Mahathir attempted a Look East policy signalling Japan and South Korea as possible role models.

      While Japan has attempted (some times) to white wash its historical atrocities it has never attempted to deny it, which is possibly why many cultures who suffered under them are able to relate to their cultural/pop exports.

      But really all this is pretty nonsensical. UMNO has done nothing in the league of Japan for there even to be an analogy of this kind when it comes to any kind of “forgiveness”. In fact I would argue that the Chinese community did extremely well considering the systemic inequalities.

      As for HH’s contention that by leaving BN, the MCA may get back the trust of the Chinese. Here’s my take. The only reason why the Chinese can afford to leave BN now is because of the early work of the MCA and later its irrelevancy. The DAP is the beast that emerged from the carcass of the MCA.

      There is nothing to forgive but it is a pity that many choose to forget.

      1. re: “the Chinese community did extremely well considering the systemic inequalities”

        (a) I concur that the Chinese community has done extremely well
        (b) also true that there has been systemic inequalities

        Your proposition is that the Chinese community did extremely well IN SPITE OF the systemic inequalities.

        There are other ways of looking at, and linking the (a) and (b) combo, you know.

        If 13 May 1969 hadn’t happened to the Chinese, a Jakarta 13 May 1998 (the “May 13” date is coincidental) might also have occurred, if it didn’t in 1979 or 1989.

        1. Re:”There are other ways of looking at, and linking the (a) and (b) combo, you know”

          Well my use of the word “considering” I think allows for a multitude of interpretations, but as always I am interested in yours.

          Please elaborate.

            1. Helen,

              Take all the time you need. Even better when you are ready put it up as its own post.

              Cheers

      2. “In fact I would argue that the Chinese community did extremely well considering the systemic inequalities.”

        Can the same be said for the Indian population? Do they enjoy the social priviledges allocated to their Malay and Bumiputera countrymen (the poor at least)?

        One argument was the task of aiding the Indians in poverty was ‘subcontracted’ to the MIC.

        1. The NEP was formulated in the wake of May 13.

          The NEP’s objective was to eradicate poverty irrespective of race.

          The NEP (1970-1990) should have included Indians. Its own stated aim is to eradicate poverty regardless of ethnicity.

          This fact has been overlooked and forgotten.

        2. Helen’s got the right of it.

          Furthermore I would argue that certain sub groups of the Indian diaspora fared better than others.

          In my opinion the MIC’s failure points more to the moral bankruptcy of the so called power sharing racial formula but concede that the same formula if implemented “fairly” could have had some utilitarian value.

    1. J-Star diselia tuanpunya akhbar. Kalau MCA tak beri lampu hijau, takkan Scissorati boleh begitu berani.

    2. Tidak apa-apa salah The J-Star dan Scissoratinya menyokong and memihak kepada DAP kerana ia sebuah suratkhabar ‘bebas’.

      Yang dipertikaikan ialah pemilik Kumpulan Media Star meluluskan akhbarnya menyokong and memihak kepada DAP memandangkan MCA adalah parti komponen BN.

      1. Re. Yang dipertikaikan ialah pemilik Kumpulan Media Star meluluskan akhbarnya menyokong and memihak kepada DAP memandangkan MCA adalah parti komponen BN.

        Ibarat Mak Bapak yang selalu tak perasan yang perangai anak dia orang perangai macam SETAN.

      2. Kalau pecat MCA pula UMNO akan dilabel jahat sejahat-jahatnya dan terbukti perkauman!

        MCA memang mendambakan yang sedemikian! Ambik kerusi majoriti Melayu balik would be a good start.

        1. MCA would die a natural death by GE14 (say 2018). No two ways about it.

          In the interim, its Gunting dalam Lipatan will cut the BN fabric into shreds.

        2. Kita boleh ambil kerusi majoriti melayu itu tanpa melalui UMNO pun. Dua kerusi DUN Johor (puteri wangsa & pt yaani) yg majoriti melayu dimenangi oleh calun melayu PAS. Ini baru permulaan. Jika PAS letak calun di Parlimen Air Hitam pada pilihanraya akan datang, kemungkinan untuk menang adalah tinggi.

          Jika gerakan UMNO dulu dimulakan di Johor, ini kali gerakan kerusi melayu untuk melayu juga akan bermula di Johor. UMNO silap jika masih memikirkan bahawa kami orang Johor akan tetap menyokong apa juga tindakan UMNO. Masa berubah.. Thanks to Gelang Patah’s voters..

  8. cik helen bila tengok harga minyak naik, air naik, electric naik, gst nak implement, semua kongsi gelap, rumah urut nak dibenteras. pati nak ditangkap, majikan nak ditangkap. adakah cik helen rasa ini ada satu grand plan dari pihak umno nak lumpuhkan MCA dan dap?

    jangan terkejut politik orang melayu. mereka berpolitik yang sentiasa membuat kejutan? takut kejutan ini tak dapat disangka oleh DAP n MCA?

    1. Setakat ini yang terjejas hanya kongsi gelap India. Kita lihatlah langkah seterusnya.. k

      Pati pun biasanya hanya indon dan bangla sahaja yang terjejas. Ini kali kita lihat samada jalan chow kit dan petaling juga diserbu. Dengar khabar ramai juga pendatang dari negara cina berkeliaran di serata negara. Pelacur luarnegara juga dilayan lebih baik dari pati yg kerja di ladang sawit.

      Kita lihatlah pengakhiran kejantanan zahid hamidi ni.. Sangkaan buruk saya setakat ini adalah seperti biasa, hangat hangat tahi ayam..

      1. Sampai satu tahap bila dah panas sangat tentu akan ada yang datang mengadap ah jib gor dan beliau akan memperkenankan supaya gerak kerja ini dihentikan serta merta…

        Saya pun rasa macam hangat-hangat tahi ayam. Saya harap tidak!

  9. Ms H. The best is what the British had done. Just appointment respectable, honourable and trustworthy Chinese to be Ministers since the Chinese, the Malaysian Chinese want to play puck with the Malaysian Democratic process. There is no need to expel them. This is the only way to make the Chinese, Malaysian Chinese, conform to Malaysian reality. If not, then the caravanserai winds its way forward leaving them behind.

    As it is, the RED MCA THINKS THEY GOT A SMART FORMULA, TALK AND SUPPORT THE OPPOSITION WHILST A BN MEMBER.
    In other words, one leg in each camp. Eventually, both camps will discard them. In politics, trustworthiness, loyalty and reliability are the watch words.

      1. Islam 1st. The Red MCA leadership is weak and flawed. How to do anything when there is internal strife and no people support but only trouble making. A leadership must be holistic (oops ! I copy from somewhere) and willing to sacrifice – WILLING TO GO TO JAIL .

        1. AK47

          Quote: ” A leadership must be holistic (oops ! I copy from somewhere) and willing to sacrifice – WILLING TO GO TO JAIL”

          MCA did go to jail, but for UMNO and the wrong reason. The irony! I still remember Tan Khoon Swan. :)

          Cheers

          1. HH. Great guy. I do not know about TKS. But I go to jail if I have RM 1 Million in my pocket for 1 day. And 4 days, if I have RM 100 Million. Want to join me in jail ?

            I REALLY KNOW OF ONE GUY WHO TOOK RM 1 BILLION AND PAID RM 4 MILLIONS TO GET SCOT-FREE. He is from those RM2 incorporated churches.

  10. Helen…UMNO TAK OLEH PECAT MCA dari BN…
    Kalau MCA dipecat (BN) akan tinggal lebih kurang 110-120 Kerusi Parlimen. Ini mungking MCA akan mempengaruhi Parti CINA(Ahli Parlimen Berbangsa Cina) di Semenanjung, Sabah dan Sarawak supaya meninggalkan BN. Kemungkinan UMNO/BN akan hilang kerajaan. Nak tak nak umno kena pujuk dan simpan MCA dalam BN…Inilah nasib UNMO yang selama ini membina negara tercinta ini dengan aman makmur..seperti tidak dihargai…diugut dengan bermacam2 kerenah oleh puak2 opportunist ini. Yang bodohnya orang melayu berpecah belah..bangsa Cina terus bersatu dengan racistnya..

    1. MCA ada 7 orang Ahli Parlimen (MP) Cina.

      Gerakan ada seorang MP Cina.

      PBS — 2 orang (Timbalan Menteri Pelajaran Mary Yap, dan Linda Tsen)

      SPDP — seorang

      Tu sahaja. Jumlah MP Cina dalam BN = 11 orang

      Kalau pun semua MP Cina menarik diri, BN masih akan tinggal 133-11 = 122 orang MP.

      Saya rasa para MP Cina wakil Sabah & Sarawak tidak akan berundur.

      Kerosakan tahap maksimum yang boleh dikenakan MCA ialah 133 – 7 = 126 kerusi BN.

      Baik make a clean break daripada memikul biawak hidup seekor ini.

      Apapun Umno sudah dicop sebagai rasis oleh media MCA. Serta MCA tidak mampu serta langsung tidak berminat mengembalikan undi Cina kepada BN.

      Pemergian MCA tidak akan mendatangkan rugi kepada BN. There is nothing left to lose.

        1. Cakap senang ler… DS Najib lebih arif tentang ni.. kita just cakap ikut akal jer… Lain jadinya nanti… x perlu pecat la… biar gugur sendiri jer,,,,,,

          1. re: “biar gugur sendiri jer”

            Ni betul. Dalam PRU14 nanti, MCA pasti akan gugur dengan sendirinya jikalau parti itu tidak lagi dipikul Umno.

            Yang menjadi tanda tanya ialah berapa banyak kerosakan yang mampu dikenakan oleh Si Gunting Dalam Lipatan terhadap BN dari tempoh sekarang hingga katakan, 2018.

            re: “DS Najib lebih arif tentang ni .. kita just cakap ikut akal jer…”

            Tak salah kalau kita ini yang menggunakan akal cuba menyampaikan pemerhatian kita di peringkat akar umbi kepada PM yang sedang dikerumuni semut-semut Pemandu, gerombolan con-sultants serta macai-macai KJ.

            Adakah DS Najib arif natijah mendengar cakap con-sultants yang begitu ramai itu?

  11. Tak payah pecat, next GE14 seats with 80% Chinese majoriti saja kasi sama dia orang. Good way to bid them farewell.

    1. saya fikir memang sepatutnya MCA dipecat aje sekarang dari menunggu GE14. sebab: kalau disimpan sampai GE14, MCA ada banyak masa untuk memperkukuhkan DAP bukan memperkukuh BN….

      Lepas dipecat, buka ruang untuk parti kaum cina yang baru….saya fikir ada ramai ahli MCA yang muda-muda yang memahami aspirasi BN yang tidak bersetuju dengan MCA aka DAP yang tentu mahu tubuhkan parti baru untuk BN.

      kita tengok apa akan jadi…!

      1. Re. Lepas dipecat, buka ruang untuk parti kaum cina yang baru

        Chinese Muslims should take up this role. Their number is growing. Just the other day I bump into my ex-college mate a Chinese revert at the mosque with a group of Jemaah Tabligh. I didn’t recognize him at all even after he greeted with Assalam. It took me a while before I realize who he is.

        A week after Hari Raya, the Chinese Muslim Malaysian Business Chamber held open house somewhere in KL. According to my friend, this group came out in droves, including the Chinese Muslim Business people from China.

            1. Conrad,

              Who do you mean? Tun Dr Mahathir? Syed Mokhtar Al-Bukhary? They are Malays lah and Yes Tun Dr Mahathir has done wonders for UMNO and Malays. As for Syed Mokhtar Al-Bukhary, he has done a lot for the Malays and we are very proud of him.

              One of the mamaks that we want to tendang is KJ! Thanks to Allah that a mamak who is also a dajjal is no more relevant to us as he is in your camp as the opposition leader.

              1. Aku Melayu,

                Mahathir’s influence goes far beyond catering to plutocrats like Al-Bukhary but engineering a petite bourgeoisie class that has changed the economic dynamic of the party and the Malay polity. They are now the most successful Muslim community in Malaysia.

                It is they who have the most influence in the party but the irony is that this class is not confined to home grown Indian Muslims but also an émigré/immigrant diaspora from India who have been wilfully integrated into UMNO/Malaysia.

                The inclusion of KIMMA as associate members of UMNO a supposed raced based party is indicative of the cross sectional influence of this community.

                PAS’s Friends of PAS or whatever it is called is justified on grounds of political expediency but the inclusion of KIMMA points more to an acknowledgement of the community’s influence.

                I would argue that the rise of this community has been at the expense of the “indigenous” Malays much like the enablers such as MCA and MIC working in collaboration with UMNO has been to the detriment of the Malay community.

                A Chinese Muslim entity within UMNO would supress even the influence of the Indian Muslims and would have far greater consequences to the Malay polity.

                RT, the Mein Kampf quoting plagiarist would be quickly and quietly disposed in favour of an individual whose appetite for power would be honed by the heightened commercial instincts of the Chinese community and the zeal of the Islam. None of this would benefit Malaysia but more importantly the Malay community.

                1. There are some Chinese converts who are berjiwa Melayu and more Islamic compared to Melayu themselves. A fine example is Ridhuan Tee and my late Chinese grandmother is another. Kj, Nazri, Hishamuddin and PM, just to name a few, are classifued as Melayu but they have lost their kemelayuan and keislaman and we don’t need them to be our leaders in UMNO.

                  If you were to read pro-goverrnment blogs and their comments (majority Malays) 99% want KJ, Nazri, Hishamuddin as well as Najib to be ousted in the upcoming PAU. And I hope they will be. There is also a strong possibility that Mukhriz and Ali Rustam will be contesting as deputy presidents. It this happens, it will steer UMNO in the right path, with Muhyiddin in the lead. We will just have to wait and see.

                  1. Thanks for your perspective. I am always interested in the different perspectives within UMNO and am always interested in hearing from people who hold convictions on the path the party should take.

                  2. RE. another. Kj, Nazri, Hishamuddin and PM, just to name a few, are classifued as Melayu but they have lost their kemelayuan and keislaman

                    Becareful with the “hilang keislaman” that is tantamount to saying someone is KUFUR. Berdosa besar tu.

                    Re. There is also a strong possibility that Mukhriz and Ali Rustam

                    Ali Rustam is contesting for VP post. He is not a “leader material”.

                2. Conrad,

                  Funny is it not? Malays have no problem with Indian Muslims. It is people like you who views things negatively.

                  And Malays have no problem with Chinese Muslim too. Meaning people like Dr Ridhuan would be well received say if Yang diPertuan Agong appoints him as Yang DiPertua Negeri of Pulau Pinang.

                  1. Shamsul,

                    What I find funny is that people like you will not objectively access people simply because of the Muslim addendum.

                    Don’t generalize. Not all Malays are taken up with the idea that Indian Muslims have such great influence in UMNO a supposed race based party.

                    I think RT is a charlatan and despicable specimen of a human being, which merely means it would not surprise me if he goes very far in politics.

                    1. He is a Chinese through out, I think that should bodes well to you…so what make him despicable human beings, again?

                      Wait he is a Muslim is he not?

                      Mmmm…nice one!

                    2. Conrad,

                      Dr Ridhuan Tee is my neighbour. He is however a much hated figure among Chinese as Dr Ridhuan often offers a frank assessment on Chinese. To people like you, Dr Ridhuan is already guilty for showing support to Malays and criticizes Chinese.

                      My point initially is that it is funny to see you “rile” on “mamak” when the Malays have no issue with “Mamak’. It is your “fertile’ (or rather poisonous) mind to see Mamak as enemy to malays.

                    3. Conrad,

                      “I think RT is a charlatan and despicable specimen of a human being, which merely means it would not surprise me if he goes very far in politics.”

                      The case that Ridhuan Tee had copied another academic’s work and passed it off as his own research says a lot about this fellow.

                      Shamsul,
                      “He is however a much hated figure among Chinese as Dr Ridhuan often offers a frank assessment on Chinese. ”

                      Ridhuan Tee is a classic case of the convert trying to look more faithful than the faithful-by-birth. In order to build favour with the conservative and fringe right Muslims, he uses his own Chinese brethren as a punching bag. But he does not limit himself to self-flagellating Chinese bashing. Indians are also in his target, as can be seen from his articles about Batu Caves and Hinduism.

                      By trying to build this façade of being more Muslim than the Muslims, it shows how fake he really is.

                    4. ACDC

                      ‘is a classic case of the convert trying to look more faithful than the faithful-by-birth.’

                      You mean HY, OKM and gangs is it? Especially when they are at the forefront of trying to steal the term ALLAH for the faithful-by-birth, who seems rather quiet like the rest of the Pribumis in the Peninsular?

  12. Saya berpendapat MCA tidak perlu dipecat. Kita biarkan lah sahaja dia mati beragan. Tidak perlu dipedulikan. Menteri pengangkutan tu kita serah pada sabah/sarawak.

    Yang perlu kita pecat adalah pemimpin UMNO yang masih dibuai semangat 1M dan masih percaya bahawa pengundi cina akan mengundi BN jika kita beri ruang pada MCA bernafas.

    langkah langkah membenteras kumpulan kongsi gelap hendaklah lebih menyeluruh. Setakat hari persepsi saya adalah seperti hapuskan penguasaan india dalam kongsi gelap untuk beri ruang cina menguasainya pula. Tidak pula kedengaran kongsi gelap cina di tembak atau diserbu. Ataupun mungkin sudah tiada langsung kongsi gelap cina yang aktif..

    Mungkin kah ini kali kerajaan berani serbu pusat pelacuran dan kelab malam? Macam tidak mungkin tetapi kita tunggulah samada zahid dapat pujuk najib utk ajar taukeh pelacuran dan kelab malam ini..

    1. Betul Betul Betul

      ‘zahid dapat pujuk najib utk ajar taukeh pelacuran dan kelab malam ini.’

      Ini susah. Nanti sapa mau gantung itu tanglung?

  13. Has anyone read the column by OKM on the Star online? OKM should just burn his Phd because of how stupid his article is.

    MCA = DAP, why is he so thick not to see or admit that? Obviously his phd = Permanent Head Damage.

    1. Isn’t his job to service the good people of Serdang? Additional income, kot? Since he already has a Puasa reality YouTube special, he should do a TV series pulak on Star’s LI called “I am OK Down in Serdang” or “The Doktor”. We can see how he berjinak2 dengan Islam dengan pakai baju Melayu serta puasa dan minum air.
      I want to see the episode he tempah baju Melayu.

  14. It is actually quite pointless to have any Chinese in BN or Govt positions really. The transport minister can be a person of any race. The main requirement should be their capability, regardless of race.

    If we examine closely, the fact is, anything “Chinese” such as schools, language, religion, economy, are/will be perceived as a threat to UMNO and Malays.

    The sooner they realise this, the better it is for the country.

    MCA. DAP. Even their acronyms speaks for itself. Association vs Party.

    MCA’s role in BN has never been to govern. It’s main function all these years has been looking after Chinese welfare.

    DAP, on the other hand, is a true political party.

    Because of the ministerial positions, MCA’s leadership have been looking out for their own benefit rather than the community’s. The only function of MCA in BN is solely for perception and votes.

    All these flawed “solutions” such as one race, one language, one school, assimilation, integration, and what have you, will only make things worse. There will never be a solution because the major factor has always been religion.

    IMO, the Chinese Malaysians should stick to what they value most, commerce, education, etc, and leave politics and governance to others. Just set up an agency for Chinese Affairs to provide assistance and support for those who require it.

  15. Jangan pecat Mca tapi buli aje dia sampai dia mintak keluar dari BN sebab dah tak sehaluan lagi.

    Kuasa ada ditangan guna sahaja.

    1. I don’t think this will happen if Najib still remains the PM. Memang kuasa ada pada dia but he is so lembik. Maybe FLOM can do the job for him.

      Speaking of FLOM, we should have a movie titled “The Antics of FLOM & FLOP – The Hair Issue” and also a book “The Jezebels behind the Weak & Dumb Leaders of Malaysia”.

  16. Reply to Shamsul #144

    Shamsul,

    I am not riled up that RT is a self loathing Chinese man with religious and racial fixations. You place much emphasis on his “frank” assessment of the Chinese mainly because it fits into your narrative of the distaste you have for community. RT being Chinese just makes him sound more credible to you with his so called “insider” perspective.

    Neither am I riled up on the mamaks, I am just describing the realpolitik of the situation on a forum which prides itself on not ignoring race. My assessment of the “mamaks” is shared by many Malays and not only Establishment partisans.

    1. ‘My assessment of the “mamaks” is shared by many Malays and not only Establishment partisans.’

      You ‘teh tarik’ kakis could never be regarded as ‘the many Malays’ are they? Like how many again are we talking about here? Looking at your narratives, I doubt it ‘that many’ many.

    2. Dear Conrad,

      For me, mamak is never our problem.. our only problem is our betrayal friends.. and mamak never do that to us..

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