Baca kenyataan akhbar MCA di laman sesawang rasmi parti itu yang mengatakan “Chin Peng’ war was to secure Independence”.
Kata MCA, perjuangan Chin Peng mirip kepada gerila Indonesia yang telah mengangkat senjata untuk lawan penjajah Belanda dan perbezaan di antara kedua-duanya hanya kepada ideologi komunis yang ditolak oleh kebanyakan orang Malaya.
MCA juga mempertikaikan kenapa Dr Azahari Husin dan Nordin Mohamad Top yang disyaki pengganas yang meletupkan bom boleh dibenar untuk dikebumikan di tanahair.
Tambah MCA lagi,
“His targets were security forces but unfortunately in the process, civilians were annihilated too.”
Adakah MCA merestui anggota-anggota polis dan tentera disasarkan oleh Chin Peng, dan hanya merasa kesal apabila ada juga orang awam yang turut terbunuh?
Untuk mengetahui lebih lanjut tentang perangai ‘pelik’ MCA sejak dua menjak ini, sila baca juga ‘The City Harvest Church cover-up and how evangelistas operate‘.
134 thoughts on “MCA: Chin Peng adalah pejuang kemerdekaan”
Tanya balik pada MCA
1. Berapa ramai orang Malaysia yang Azahari dah bunuh?
2. Berapa ramai orang Malaysia yang Nordin Mat Top Letupkan?
3. Berapa perkataan Azahari yang menghina Melayu sebagai KASUT DAP?
4. Adakah Azahari dan Nordin ahli berdaftar komunis?
5. Tahukah MCA bahawa Empayar China hancur kerana idealogi komunis yang membunuh semua Maharaja di Negara China?
6. Tahukah MCA bahawa Maharaja China tidak pernah menghina Islam, hinggakan Negara China mendapat pengiktirafan dari Rasullulah S.A.W dengan ucapan Banginda “Belajarlah hingga ke Negeri China”,( Terbukti dengan terbinanya Laluan Sutera( Silky Way)
7. Berapa ramaikah orang MCA dan DAP yang sanggup menjalinkan hubungan perniagaan dengan mengilkut landasan Islam seperti zaman Rasullullah? Yang ada sekarang ialah hubungan perniagaan dengan RASUAH sana sini. malah ada yang tidak mahu menjual bahan mentah seperti tepung kepada peniaga Islam Malaysia
8. Berapa ramaikah Pemaju dan Pemilik Perumahan yang tidak tamak dan tidak menaikkan harga sewaan perniagaan dan harga barangan seperti di zaman Rasull Allah?
9. Berapa ramaikah Orang Cina yang BUKAN BANDUAN DARI TANAH BESAR yang CARI MAKAN di MALAYSIA? Fakta:- 97% Orang Cina adalah banduan/orang buangan dari Penjara Besar Tanah Besar Cina.
10. Berapa ramaikah orang MCA dan DAP yang sanggup meninggalkan Malaysia dan terus ‘membuang sendiri’ kerakyatan sebagai Rakyat Malaysia kerana benci dengan Kerajaan sekarang?
Jika MCA boleh melakukan seperti orang China di zaman Rasullulah atau zaman Kesultanan Melaka, silakan, jika tidak, bolehlah mereka berpindah ke Taiwan atau Hongkong kerana Tanah Besar China memang menolak orang Cina yang tidak mahu pulang ke Tanah Besar sejak tahun 1950.
Nota:- Melayu memang pendatang di Malaysia, kira kira 600 tahun dahulu, Cina pula ialah lebih kurang 120 tahun dahulu dengan 100 adalah banduan yang dipaksa menjadi buruh lombong, dan ketua kongsi Gelap yang berketurunan kominis telah merasuah Pengurus lombong yg terdiri dari Orang British dengan pelacur-pelacur dari China, dan seterusnya mendapat kebebasan membuat kumpulan sendiri demi menjajah Tanah Melayu sebab mereka tak boleh balik China.
melayu pendatang kira-kira 600 tahun? melayu mana kamu maksudkan itu? Sejarah melayu tak bermula dengan Melaka. Ada lagi Srivijaya dan Langkasuka yang lebih tua. jgn lupa. atau itu disengajakan ?
Maaf, terlupa. Hi hi
I’m gonna disagree with your melayu pendatang statement. India datang dari India, Cina datang dari China, Melayu datang dari mana? This land was part of the Nusantara, melayu memang orang asal nusantara.
Apakah fakta yang mengatakan orang Melayu sebagai pendatang di Tanah Melayu ini, adakah Tanah Melayu ini hanya dihuni olih Gajah dan Harimau sahaja 600 ratus tahun dahulu.
sejak bila melayu jadi pendatang kat tanah melayu. silky way x pernah dengar kalu milky way ada la. silk route pun ada
‘Melayu memang pendatang di Malaysia, kira kira 600 tahun dahulu…’
Err got link or not???
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A tale of two terrorists:
Chin Peng was a Communist Terrorist that fought the British colonialists. But had he won, Malaya would become a People’s Socialist Republic not unlike Indonesia under Sukarno.
Thousands of people were killed during the Emergency, not just soldiers, but also civilians. My relatives and their friends have their own stories of near brushes with the C.Ts.
The other, Mohd Noordin Top was a religious terrorist that financed and planned bombings that killed hundreds of Indonesians and foreign nationals. If he had not been stopped, many hundreds more would have been killed. His goal as part of the Jemaah Islamyiah was to set up a Islamic Caliphate from West Papua to Surat Thani. There would be no room for other religions under this caliphate.
But to some people, since Noordin Top killed “other people” (read: Indonesians), it is fine. Is it any wonder why the Indonesians dislike our “sombong” attitude.
nordin md top is Malaysian….but Chin Peng is not malaysian as declared by the Federal Court. Thus he has no right to be buried in Malaysia soil. The government is so nice of not taking legal action against Chin Peng. He is supposed to be charged with war crime as what happend to Pol Pot, Radovan Karadzik and Hitler
Chin Peng led a traitorous organisation responsible for a long conflict and deaths of thousands of Malaysians, yet the Chinese hail him as a hero.
Is it any wonder people are pissed off over this bodoh sombong attitude.
Hadis yang menyatakan..tuntutlah ilmu walaupun sampai ke negeri china adalah hadis dhaif…
Sebagai penyokong awal MCA, saya tersangat-sangat malu dengan perjuangan MCA masa kini. Zaman Tan Sri Tun Sir Tan adalah mengenai menyelamatkan orang Cina daripada ancaman pengganas komunis. Ramai orang Cina – termasuk arwah ayah – khasnya di Pulau Pinang memberikan derma untuk membangunkan Kampung Baru.
Kini pembunuh orang Cina dan orang yang telah membinasakan kehidupan orang Cina dijulang sebagai kesatria oleh MCA yang menjadi musuh ketat mereka zaman Tan Sri Sir.
Pulak, auntie ini dikatakan pandai berdendam kerana auntie ini tidak mahu memaafkan Chin Peng. Dalilnya orang yang mati kita dikehendaki memberikan maaf. Saya yang salah sebab saya berdemdam. Memang salah saya perkatakan bahwa ini bermakna polis dan orang Cina yang mati pada tangan komunis itu mati katak.
Kalau inilah MCA baru. Auntie nak resign dari MCA. Auntie memang kolot sangat tak seiring dengan orang Cina masa kini yang cenderakiwan.
Mungkin auntie ini Melayu kolot zaman UMNO yang masih lagi menonton P Ramlee dan ingat bahawa Sarjan Hassan itu idola. Atau Cina kolot zaman Wong Fei Hung. Mungkin auntie ini tak berwawasan 2020 tapi berwarisan 1920 sebab berdendam dengan Chin Peng.
Mulan, they already labelled you a Melayu. Why need to worry some more leh? Just live with it la. And it is no surprise we cannot see things the way Dapsters does, since truly, bodo is our middle name. Along with malas that is. Aiyah you know la, the sakai type, is who we are.
Stay strong Mulan, the ride is fun!
saya pun cina yang dikatakan melayu jugak…. lagi pulak saya suka nonton cerita p.ramlee…. paling best labu-labi….! hehehe, steady mulan…. don’t worry, be happy….
masalahnya, saya jugak melayu tapi kerana rupa saya lebih cina, maka saya dikatakan cina jugak….alahai!
Auntie Mulan, don’t you ever feel that you are one bit kolot because you refuse to forgive Chin Peng. My mom who lives during the Chin Peng era will never forgive him. MCA has gone insane. The new generation probably wants to experience for themselves what is it like to be terrorized by Communists and to live in peril. They don’t appreciate the freedom that we have now because they didn’t go through the peril themselves.
strange, the malaysian chinese vilify real leaders like mahathir who by their cina anglofiil standard should be hanged, executed(such as can be read in Mkini) despite Mahathir nor any UMNO leaders as never having killled one let alone 10,000 ppl nor led a organization that perpetuate terrorism,bombings (tell me what freedom fighter bomb the national monument)and murders such as executing lembaga letrik negara that installed electricity lines.
Their arguments that Chin Peng had a peace treaty nullify his deeds, such short sighted arguments, the US are now negotiaging for peace treaty with the Taliban which is associated with Osama and Al Qaeda..should Osama then be redelegated as a freedom fighter?
the bitching by DAPsters that Chin Peng fights the British is rather ludicrous and is inconsistent with the cina anglophile yearning that malaysia should remain with the british which show the psychopatic nature of dapster to justify anything to make their ideals WIN despite being at losing end. To compare Chin Pek to Ho Chi Minh is also ludicrous as he ever made any strategic nor tactical victories in his terrorist insurgencies againts the brotosh nor the Malaysian Federation, his fight were contained in the jungke but kame ducks while Chin Peng sat in Thailand being fed like a pig as indicated by his fat body in recent pics before his transition to being a bangkai.
again, the chin leng terrorist issue is just a foddder to flam anti malay sentiment among the Chinese. ..let the chinese malaysian have a murderer nor a rapist as their hero..its their brain to make such decision.
forrestcat. Good comments. No man or woman is above the rule of the laws. Period.
u sound like lky. which law btw? what about hermaphrodite?
HY. Grow up boy !
LKY was a winner… never would I equate a loser like Chin Peng with LKY whom I have respect for as a leader despite critical of him, his legacy as a leader is sealed just as mahathir’s is.
The Chin Peng the hero worshiper should blame China, Tun Razak opening up malaysia and china relationships is what condemned Chin Peng into the dustbin of history as China stops supporting PKM in its insurgency. This is a reason why the late Tun Razak was a genius, DAPster call him the father of Ketuanan Melayu but this Ketuanan Melayu bapak was the first ASEAN leader to have diplomatic ties with China, his vision for malaysia was beyond the narrow racist ketuanan crap imagined by the DAPsters… hence its with such leader that PKM failed and Chin Peng became a loser.
Many fail to see, by having a peace treaty with malaysia, Chin Peng is just stopping the VAT 69 and Senoi Praaq from hunting for his head and massacring his puppet bandits who then were getting old, the peace treaty was a graceful gesture from the malaysian government, not as a sign of defeat, PKM in 1989 was in no capacity to threaten Malaysia. Without the peace treaty, a VAT 69 commando would have had his head by now.
The US on the other hand was forced to negotiate for a unity Afgan govt with the Taliban who were effective in decimating the recovery process, Chin Peng never had sufficient support to do such effect.. hence I laugh when the Jerusubangite in Mkini really believed that Chin peng and his at most 20k bandits can pressure the British to give independence to Malaysia.. then the DAPsters should blame Chin Peng for making the british gave Malaya to UMNO if I can follow the crooked simplistic logic of the Jerusubangite..
that is why I never try to re-invent history like the mkini psychopants who keeps imagining what if UMNO didnt rule.. in will end up in a paradox loop.. hence,just accept the history as written by the victors…, so who to blame for Chin Peng fall, China, the Malays.. or maybe the Malaysian Malaysian Chinese themselves who did not support his ‘heroic’ cause.
HY. The more you talk the more you sound like a nit ! You are hollow btw your slitty eyes.
yeah a slit eyes but can see thing much wider than your fake blue round eyes thay no linkage to that red brain.
“This is a reason why the late Tun Razak was a genius”
we were pro western and anti china especially when tunku was the pm, n it was only after 513 that the west start to criticize msia, n razak play the diplomatic game well by visiting china. n i think razak is the real bapak pembangunan, not a fake one like that bapak politic.
Pembetulan, melayu dah ada di sini lebih Dari 600 tahun ye, sila buat kajian dengan lebih lanjut sebelum bagi fakta2 tak betul.
bengongnye MCA ni. berhujah pun dangkal. Tunggu ler abang2 Vet ATM (JHEV) buat senaman bont#t kat depan pejabat hangpa tak lama lagi. Buduh piang punye MCA
Kalau tujuan dan matlamat sebenar Chin Peng adalah untuk membebaskan PERSEKUTUAN TANAH MELAYU dari penjajah kenapa beliau dan konco komunisnya tidak meletak senjata apabila negara mencapai kemerdekaan pada 1957?
Kenapa terus memerangi Kerajaan yang telah dipilih oleh rakyat melalui pilihanraya sah pada tahun 1950’han? Pilihanraya pertama ialah pada 1955, iaitu Pilihanraya Majlis Perundangan Persekutuan dan diikuti dengan Pilihanraya Umum (PRU1) selepas kemerdekaan pada tahun 1959.
Nampaknya MCA/DAP/Gerakan telah berjaya ditipu dan dikelentung oleh Chin Peng! Hahaha…Tiga parti ini memang BIJAKLAKSMANA.
Persekutuan Tanah Melayu diwujudkan tahun 1948. Sebelum tu, ada negeri-negeri Selat, Negeri-negeri Melayu Bersekutu (FMS) dan Negeri-negeri Melayu Tak Bersekutu (UMS).
Negeri-negeri Kelantan, Terengganu, Kedah dan Perlis adalah negeri-negeri berdaulat di bawah perintah raja. “Kemerdekaan” apa sebenarnya yang diperjuangkan Chin Peng?
Adakah Chin Peng mahu meletakkan kerajaan komunis Cina atau menegakkan kedaulatan Raja-raja Melayu jika British berjaya diusir?
hard to tell, look south, some ‘nusantaran’ choose to have a republic.
In 1957, Malays made up only 13.5% of the Singapore population and remained thereabouts in 1963.
Because the sultan, kratons and kings in indonesia were wiped out from the governance under the tyrannical Dutch, hence it was logical to go a republic as there are no sultan or king institutions to sustain.
Please bear in mind, Indonesia had a bloody history after being made a republic such as killing 1 million Communist sympathizers, interestingly, you dont see the Christian elites in the Indonesian govt then protest and glorify them as heroes just as the pretenders Jerusubangite,
The path of malaysia is as good as it is
That is incorrect. The Sultans, rajas etc in Indonesia were collaborators of the Dutch colonial government. The ones who wiped them out were the revolutionaries. Also not likely that Sukarno and Hatta would allow the monarchs to be above them and their revolutionaries.
HY you talk rubbish !
‘some ‘nusantaran’ choose to have a republic.’
Some Malaysian also can join the republic, still. Just drive down south la HY, stop being a prick already!
how this applies to what i wrote is anyone’s guess. n i’ve been pointing this out for a number of weeks, yet here we still read the same ‘talented’ argument that r supposed to be dumped in the recycling bin. oh the 210k blood sweat msian money, spend it on bin would at least render us cleaner environment n less rubbish. sheeesh!
‘oh the 210k blood sweat msian money’
Very typical of you to be jealous. Umpan mengena juga akhirnya, hehe.
HY that was when the ringgit was RM2.5 to USD1. Imagine how much that is worth now. Tentu banyak kan?!
Speaking of which, BTW HY, how much did you get?
i get nil, not bec i am chinese, simply i am not that good. just puzzle y waste 210k, 21k could get one that equally mediocre, the balance can buy recycling bin some more :)
Dumbing down is fun, no?
pls read below excerpt, i don’t think the colonial master is the only cause.
“The colonial government used sultans to keep a lid on dissent, especially after the communist uprisings of 1926-27. In contrast, the anti-feudal character of the Indonesian national revolution was driven by the idea that an equal society must be thoroughly republican. It was precisely that egalitarian spirit that suffered during Suharto’s New Order. In this sense, the return of the sultans has more in common with the New Order than it first appears.”
“President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono said last week that the monarchical system might be in conflict with the democratic values of this republic as the central government drafts the new bill on the Special Territory of Yogyakarta.”
thus my answer(retort) to helen’s question a relevant one right?
apakah tarikh kematian 16sept chin peng itu. ketentuan. sebagai tanda kenangan perjuangannya?
dan ingat bahwa sejarah tidak pernah ditulis olih pihak yang kalah.
lalu siapakah kita untuk membicarakan dia jika sejarah itu sememangnya tidak akan memihak kepada sikalah bila ia ditulis olih puak.yang menang.
hmmm mca ni mcm anjing menyalak bukit je. sudahlah simpan la kuku kamu yg dah tak brp tajam tu.
saya rasa balik, gelaran donkey tu terlalu mulia pulak utk mca. walaupun donkey tu bodoh dan lembab, sekurang2nya dia tak penah melawan tuannya (baca kerajaan). sanggup pikul brp byk beban pun yg tuan dia suruh.
nak gelar anjing pun x boleh. sbb anjing pun men’s best friend dan diakui binatang paling setia pada tuannya. hmmm nak panggil apa mca ni ya?
Mca test market tu..
Test tgk mcmana respon BN… PM..
Patutpun tak rasa rugi masa kalah pru13 tu..
Menang dlm kalah…
Kita tunggu respon pm pulok..
Atau sinar boleh anjur debat.. patut atau tak patut…
Dah tahun 2013, sampai bila kah Chinese nak setel down owh?
Lari dari Mainland pasal tak kenan dgn Mao tse tung, ikut Mat Salleh.
Tak kenan Mat Salleh, ikut Chin Peng komunis
Tak kenan Chin Peng, ikut MCA
Tak kenan MCA, ikut DAP
Tak kenan SK belajar kat SJKC
Tak kenan Bahasa Malaysia belajar Bahasa Negara China
Tak kenan BN tiba2 berkenan dengan Chin Peng pulak dah.. Hangpa ni semua pi mai pi mai duk tang tu juga.
Gee, doesn’t this guy know what Indonesia did to communists and even suspected communist sympathizers back then?
Hint: A really bloody purge, instead of kampung barus like in Malaysia.
Fighting for independence my ass, those guerillas didn’t stop their campaign after Malaysia reached independence. Why? Because they want to take over the country and make it a communist lackey in the bamboo curtain. What a liar.
I see why he’s trying to bring up those 2 dead terrorist bombers.
It’s because they’re MALAY.
Alas, another person who actually reads some Indonesian history.
pretty sick hearing some Malaysian Chinese keep raising up Indonesia heroic independence without realizing what bloody path it took… Malaysia is not Indonesia.
I am sure some Jerusubangite would suggest that we split our north part into a Commie state with nuclear bombs pointed at us so that we may become as advanced as South Korea.
re: “some Malaysian Chinese keep raising up Indonesia heroic independence without realizing what bloody path it took…”
Correct. The reprisals against the Chinese in Indonesia at the end of the war was bloody indeed.
The “some Malaysian Chinese” loudmouths whose comments indicate loud and clear how ignorant they are must be the Dapsters.
And how should these loudmouths ingrates be treated? The Indonesian way perhaps?
1. Makin hari makin ketara MCA memusuhi Melayu pula. Apa sahaja suara kerajaan mengenai kaum cina, ada sahaja puak MCA bagun menafikan dan menyangkal.
2. Nampak nya mereka sudah berpatah arang. Apa yang benar di kelabui dan di lindung. Chin Peng itu komunis. Ketua komunis. Kekejaman mereka kepada Melayu bukan sedikit. Jika dia pejuang kemerdekaan, kenapa Melayu di bunuh kejam ? Rujuk Utusan dan blog Ipoh Malay yang mengulas.
3. Keputusan muktamad PM Najib sudah di dengar. Tidak perlu lagi jadi sensasi. Masih ramai orang-orang lama Melayu trauma dengan komunis. Cuma mereka tidak berupaya seperti orang-orang politik sekarang kerana faktor umur, untuk mendedahkan keburukan dan kekejaman komunis ini.
Azahari jauh berbeza Chin Peng. Jika Azahari mengebom kaum cina di Malaysia, apa kah reaksi kaum cina agak nya ? Another 13th May ?
Like I’ve commented on a previous posting it’s easy for the cina to forgive Chin Peng if you do not have a relative killed by the communists or if your family secretly supported the communists during the Emergency. Start your polling with the family of the late Koo Choo Kong, killed when he was Perak chief police. I can understand the Dap doing this because of their roots, but MCA?
People should just be thankful that the Malays, when it comes to revenge, marah saja lebih. If we follow through on our anger, we would have started a witch hunt on all the butchers. If there was no Haadyai Agreement no one would even dare bring this up.
Tolong perbetulkan fakta anda. Melayu bukan pendatang di Tanah Melayu. Dan Melayu telah berada lama di sini daripada 600 tahun. Sila rujuk sejarah kembali. Sekian.
Let compare apple to apple;
Chin Peng and Rashid Madin both are hardcore communist and stick the ideology till they dead.
Do Rashid Madin body have been brought back to Malaysia? If NO why Chin Peng? Do Chinese practice Double standard!
Let compare Azahari and Chin Peng –
Azahari – Run from Malaysia and create havoc in Indonesia. Do Azahari kill any Malaysian?
Chin Peng – Killing innocent people since 1941 – 1989, all Malaysian never forget the Kangaroo court set by CPM after World War II – Thousand of Malay civil servant has been killed because they serve during Japanese occupation in Malaya.
Azahari was a Malaysian.
Chin Peng was not!
Haha everyday you bitch about MCA but UMNO tetap SAYANG MCA.
See the direct funding for new villages is restored by the relevant Ministry after advise from MCA. The ChingWoo school fiasco where the demolition of affected building was halted personally by Najib after advise by Liow TL.
MCA must show your gut, don’t behave like before election where everything UMNO said was right. Chinese made the correct decision by rejecting MCA and this move has awaken the MCA slightly.
Yes, MCA has awaken but at what cost to the Malays? The MCA still needs Malay votes, that need is what they should put foremost in their thoughts. UMNO on the other hand, knows now (or should know) that they cannot count on MCA to deliver the Chinese votes. So MCA, attacking the Malay psyche, is not going to do them or their community any good in the long run.
UMNO may “sayang MCA”, as you put it, but UMNO’s exco is about to undergo some changes in a month’s time. And the ground swell against MCA’s rants and complaints against the Malays is growing. Again, something that MCA needs to take notice.
re: “UMNO may sayang MCA”
As in the Pemuda Umno chief giving a coveted spot in Ministry to a reporter from the MCA-owned media?
Love is blind. I think it was Shakespeare who opened our eyes !
I’m gonna get bitchy here. That KJ-Regina thing. Look at it from this (bitchy) perspective – both with liberal idealism, media and tech savvy (?) , narcissistic tendencies, and Kim Kardashian syndrome (you know, the magazine cover spot, the glamour shots) – it’s only natural they stuck together.
Malaysian Politics, Malaysian Languid Clime and Malaysian Sex are a powerful mix, Orangkampung. Sorry ! I forgot and the aphrodisiac Malaysian Durian.
And my vote, if I live to yet another GE, will never go to MCA.. ever again…. that’s how I ( and, we, us ) should punish them. Eliminate every single one from the face of Malaysian political stage… and let them bark in cybersphere…. let the Gan Peng Siews write and shout, bark and hark but the Malays will never take them. The next UMNO batch of leadership will be Malay-centric…. you watch
I won’t be surprised if Ms Heng and gang will end up like PPP, begging for seats to contest… and the Chinese will reject them, of course
For one ISMA had make it a point to contest in the Malay majority seat, should it is not being contest by a Malay/Muslim. They have done it. And they had pledged themselves to do just that in the future!
From whom Chin Peng was seeking independence after 31 August 1957 to 1989?
Simple, because he wasn’t a citizen to begin with, why the need to bring him all the way here?
sokong. hes a a dead non malaysian….case closed.
Elijah. I suggest Chin Peng’s ashes be interred in Switzerland paid for by the RED MCA RM1 Billion + funds. Many years ago, I went ot Switzerland looking for my brother’s grave. I did not find it but I discovered the oldest Swiss grave dated back to 1942 only. But the Jewish graves dated right back to the 19th century. From the Stadthaus, I discovered the Swiss are allowed to place their dead one on top of each other for 2 generations only. Thereafter, all these remains are cremated.. I just missed my brother’s remains as he died in 1931 and I turned up in 1992 and no one paid the columbarium fees. So, his ashes were just thrown away. Then, I asked the Stadthaus clerk whether I could turn up in Switzerland in an urn since it is so expensive to live in Switzerland. He said,’ No problem as long as you pay your fees.’
Interesting fact, scarcity of land is the reason for that, probably?
Elijah. You are great and made a very good comment. NOT ONLY THE SCARCITY OF LAND IN SWITZERLAND BUT ALSO THE SWISS ARE EVEN MORE KIASU THAN THE SINKIES (I learnt this term from Sinkies Blogs)
“The last dinosaurs died approximately 65 million years ago. Although the cause of their extinction is still a mystery, climatic change, diseases, changing plant communities, and geologic events could all have played a role.”
So Helen, what cause MCA become extinct ?
E. Semua jawapan diatas adalah betul
Jgn lupa faktor Scissorati dan The J-Star.
ASH. friend. Please read my comments on the Chinese, Malaysian Chinese !
Chin Peng was considered a transient immigrant, he was not a british citizen nor a citizen of any of the Malay states… he would not be able to vote in the 1955 federated states elections.
Since he waged war against Malaya and malaysia, the jus soli does not apply to him, hence in legal technicality, any legal claim that he is a citizen can be broken in this basis.
To Mkini readers, go ahead, ask the British whom you admire but love being terrorized by hero Peng, was he a British citizen since you distrust the malaysian govt so much.
biasalah cina2 kat malaysia ni suka buat hal. komunis yg melayu mati taknak pulak bising suh bawak balik mayat. buat apa nak bawak balik abu mayat orang yg dah bunuh ramai rakyat tanah melayu? cina2 ni buta sejarah. diaorang ada choice …pi lah balik China kalau tak suka duk kat Malaysia. Kalau suka and masih nak duduk kat Malaysia maknanye kerajaan skrg ni dah cukup baik lah tu. tak payah bising2. byk hal lain lagi penting.
Saja buat perangai kurang ajar!
Mereka ni bodoh sombong. Perasan mereka ni lah kaum yang paling cerdik! Konon-kononnya lah…
We have over a billion Chinese in the world. If they are really that smart, what have they accomplished so far? Bill Gate – Microsoft, Jack Dorsey – Twitter, Mark Zuckerberg – Facebook. Chinese?? What?? Tell me! Pirate DVDs? Yes, they are very good at it. Being copycats that’s what the Chinese are!
mca dah jadi parasite setelah ‘kalah perang’. sekarang cuba nak pujuk pengundi2 cina dgn apa cara jua pun. kalau ada isu2 yg tak boleh diputar, nak dibelit jugak, last2 sendiri yg terputar & terbelit. kenapa depa tak bersuara tentang masyarakat baba & nyonya yg tak dapat status bumiputera sedangkan keturunan penjajah dapat?
MCA muka tak malu, kerusi menang pun subsidi orang Melayu dan India, bising kuat!
Pada masa ini MCA adalah parti yang tak bermaruah. Menang PRU dan menjadi wakil rakyat atas sokongan orang-orang Melayu. Orang cina langsung menolak mereka. Sekarang mereka nak bangkitkan isu mayat Cin Peng untuk mendapat sokongan orang cina. Nampak sangat bodoh dan kosong otak mereka.
Sekarang kita kaji siapa itu Cin Peng.
1. Cin Peng adalah anak pendatang Cina yang dibawa ke Tanah Melayu oleh British untuk bekerja sebagai kuli. Walaupun beliau dilahirkan di Sitiawan, beliau bukanlah rakyat Sultan Perak, oleh itu beliau bukanlah rakyat Negeri Perak dan seterusnya bukan juga rakyat Tanah Melayu.
2. Oleh kerana beliau anak kepada pendatang cina yang dibawa masuk oleh British, maka beliau adalah rakyat British “British Subject”. Dengan yang demikian beliau tidak mempunyai apa-apa keistimewaan di Tanah Melayu sebagai “British Subject”.
3. Beliau dan orang-orang cina menentang Jepun dalam perang dunia ke 2 adalah kerana benci kepada Jepun yang menakluki Negara Cina dan kerana membunuh orang-orang cina di Tanah Melayu bukan kerana sayang kepada pemerintahan Raja Melayu dan lebih kerana hendak membantu British dan sekutunya mengalahkan Jepun.
4. Setelah Jepun kalah beliau dengan pejuang-pejuangnya telah memberontak dan melawan British yang kembali ke Tanah Melayu untuk meneruskan pentadbiran mereka. Harapan beliau bukan untuk membebaskan Tanah Melayu untuk Raja-Raja Melayu tetapi untuk jadikan Tanah Melayu ini sebuah negara komunis satelit kepada negara komunis cina.
5. Setelah beliau gagal dalam agendanya mengalahkan British, beliau dan pejuang-pejuangnya telah mengganas menjadi pejuang gerila.
6. Apabila Tanah Melayu mencapai kemerdekaan pada tahun 1957, Cin Peng dengan pengikut-pengikutnya terus melakukan kekejaman ke atas rakyat Tanah Melayu yang merdeka, di mana orang-orang cina dan india telah diberi kerakyatan sebagai rakyat Persekutuan Tanah Melayu. Kekejaman beliau bukan sahaja kepada kaum Melayu, tetapi juga kepada kaum cina dan india.
6. Sepanjang hayat beliau, beliau tidak pernah menjadi Rakyat Tanah Melayu atau Warga Negara Malaysia tetapi adalah “British Subject” (Rakyat British). Dan ada terbaca dalam akhbar baru-bari ini mengatakan bahawa beliau memiliki Passport Negara Cina.
7. Adakah orang seperti Cin Peng ini boleh dikatakan pejuang kemerdekaan?
Dimana letaknya otak pemimpin-pemimpin MCA dan otak segelintir kaum cina yang menyanjung beliau melainkan golongan ini adalah sebagian atau anak cucu penyokong beliau.
Sudah sampai masanya bagi pemimpin-pemimpin MCA dengan sikap cauvanis mereka keluar dari BARISAN NASIONAL. Period.
re: “Beliau dan orang-orang cina menentang Jepun dalam perang dunia ke 2 adalah kerana benci kepada Jepun yang menakluki Negara Cina …”
re: “Di mana letaknya otak pemimpin-pemimpin MCA …”
Di kepala lutut.
re: “Sudah sampai masanya bagi pemimpin-pemimpin MCA dengan sikap cauvanis mereka keluar dari BARISAN NASIONAL. Period.”
Sesiapa yang menjadi wakil ke PAU boleh kemukakan usul.
LOL, kau tak jadi wakil PAU ka?
Takpe, you ganti diri I. Sebarkan mesej.
I bukan ahli wor…how?
Your brothers-in-law, ada? Kawan-kawan? Spread the word lah.
In laws xdak ahli UMNO, kawan-kawan, ada.
“Harapan beliau bukan untuk membebaskan Tanah Melayu untuk Raja-Raja Melayu tetapi untuk jadikan Tanah Melayu ini sebuah negara komunis satelit kepada negara komunis cina.”
cp fight the british when china still under kmt chiang kai shek until 1949, n china were one of the poorest country in the world until deng open up china in 1978. n only launched their first satellite in 1970 during a time of cultural revolution chaos.
Msia were pro west n anti china/communist before 1970, of course china would support anyone that go against the imperialist at that time, include mcp. aduh, i think u read too much science fiction.
” cp fight the british when cina still under kmt chiang kai shek until 1949″
memang benar cina diperintah oleh kmt ciang kai shek selepas perang dunia sehingga 1949, tetapi dalam tempuh pemerintahan kmt tersebut, telah berlaku perebutan kuasa di antara komunis parti cina di bawah mao dan kmt sehingga chiang kai shek lari ke taiwan (dulu nya formosa) dan meneruskan pemerintahannya disana. Sementara itu di tanah besar mao telah menubuhkan kerajaan komunisnya.
sementara di Tanah Melayu pula ketika yang sama, cp dengan ideologi komunisnya menentang british. tujuannya apa? tak perlu lah saya kupas di sini kerana saya tahu anda tahu jawapannya.
kalau benar-benar cp berjuang untuk memerdekakan Tanah Melayu dari British, sudah pasti mereka beramai-ramai akan meletakkan senjata ketika Tanah Melayu merdeka pada tahun 1957. tetapi apa yang terjadi mereka terus mengangkat senjata, membunuh dan menzalimi rakyat Tanah Melayu selepas itu. kerana cita-cita mereka hendak menubuhkan sebuah kerajaan komunis di Tanah Melayu tidak berjaya. ini sejarah dan tidak siapa boleh pertikaikan. bahkan semua orang tahu kezaliman cp dan pengikut-pengikutnya adalah melampaui kewarasan fikiran manusia.
the gist of my dispute is pertaining to yr statement “jadikan Tanah Melayu ini sebuah negara komunis satelit kepada negara komunis cina”.
maksud i ccp yg sibuk dengan perang saudara dan kemudian di tengah tengah membangun dan menyembuh negara mereka yg kucar kacir serta miskin mana ada masa membiak negara satalik, buat cucu cicit boleh la, lagi pun kene berperang dengan itu ak47 punya motherland usa kat korea, tambah lagi ancaman dari soviet yg tak berhenti henti mahu tunjukkan ia nya taiko sebenar di dunia komunis, saya sangka ini memang urusan diri sendiri jadi jangan angan angan lipatkan lain orang, ada paham?
mcp continue the war because they perceived we r not yet truly independence, the fact was the other ak47 motherland uk, or the british force did not leave msia till the 70s, that is y the director of operation at that time r not ali, muthu atau a chong, nama nya James Cassels, moreover our govt demand the dissolution of mcp, u try ask bn to demand the dissolution of pas n see what will happen.
HY. You talk so much about my Motherland. Show me what you have done for this country, my beloved Malaysia. BIG MOUTH ! From the beginning, you only know how to insult innocents through your anonymity and your inferior complex.
HY. Do not hit blindly at people you perceived to be old and useless. Where were you when I conceptualised and delivered with others SIME DARBY PLC to Pernas and the Malaysians in 1972-76. The first of the British conglomerates to be taken over by Malaysian interests which is now the flagship of the PNB. Where were you ? My reasoning was since the British had the best of 70% of our beloved Malaysia, the Chinese 25% third rate assets and the Malays and others 5%, the best method is to buy back all the British assets at market prices. Without big Malay business there would be no big Chinese or Indian business. Blue-eyed boy ! With this concept, see the peace, stability and prosperity of my beloved Malaysia today, blue-eyed boy !
point blank someone PM or DPM should ask mca their agenda what can they deliver do they want be part of system or do they want out ….if they do want out good riddance.
Enough is enough BN and the goverment being for a ride by these MCA saboteurs.
Give due appreciation to who delivered the votes for BN …..Sabah and Sarawak. Dont waste time with these bunch of losers , CSL , YTL . Donkey Kong, Heng Seai Kei just flush them down the toilet good riddance
You mean LTL.
Agree about the YTL bit, tho :)
MCA knows they are finished, they are just doing as much damage before being Purified by father khalifah Lim Guan Eng.They are munafik who uses a tunnel to change sides between BN and PR as conveniently, or simply pragmatic.
bear in mind, PEMANDU and government GLCs have been infiltrated by MCA loyalists, I have a kenalan in there, a Cina Ipohian from St Michael, Ostolia educated, as usual adopted mat salleh name in front of his hangzhi name, loyal to Ong Tee Keat with liberal views, extremely smart and influential in PEMANDU despite just being executive level, with people like him, MCA will always be within the government and influence the govt decision whether MCA carcass has been unloaded or otherwise, or BN or PR rules, just like DAP is within the govt via Regina Lee.
Having MCA members join the ranks in DAP is good for DAP, they have ready to use bureucrats that can administer key ministries and con-sultans when the time comes, the PAS ulamas and jokers are too dumb who will be like monkey in a village when the time comes to govern.
yup the idiot who won in bentong by 379 malay voters
The Chinese are really drawing a thicker and thicker line on the Malaysian sand lest Ah Jib Gor fails to notice it first time.
Cukup-cukuplah Najib rezabkan jawatan dalam kabinet kepada MCA. Lantik aje menteri pengangkutan dah tak payah pangku-pangku lagi. Semua jawatan yang ada pemangku tu, lantik aje terus bumiputra yang ada agenda bumiputra.
MCA dah makin teruk. Dah jadi ‘muka sebelah duit siling’ untuk DAP dalam BN. Pendek kata, MCA dah tukar jadi parasit dalam BN! Biarkan aje MCA keluar BN gabung dengan DAP. Dah tak payah berselindung.
‘Ini kalilah’ Melayu undi calon MCA dalam PRU13; jangan diulangi dalam PRU14. ‘Ubah’lah mentaliti MCA tu kawan; dia dah jadi kawan tikam belakang.
Helen. I tak tau lah sama ada UMNO sayang MCA dan sebaliknya. Apa yang pasti I sayang sama u.
Ehm, apa lagi mau Helen?
helen… kasi hantam sajalah… sudah ada olang sayang maaa….! hehehe
Mungkin sebab cin peng, org2 cina dapat kerakyatan. Sebab tu la cina sayang sangat kat dia.
the malaysiakini and the star are still playing up articles about chin peng, discussing his heroic credentials, as usual they are raising up azhari mat top burial to justify chin peng ash go buried here…. its not whether chin peng is a hero or not, it is to get the benci melayu simmer among the chinese until pru14
re: “the malaysiakini and the star are still playing up articles about chin peng, discussing his heroic credentials”
Malaysiakini is terang-terang pro-Oppo since Day 1 so it is to be expected.
The J-Star pula is rising again in its 1987 Ops Lalang shape. Yesterday, almost all (bar a coupled) of the Top 10 stories in The J-Star Online were about Chin Peng.
forrestcat. As long as the BN Government as led by the UMNO with the 13 component parties observes the rule of law – Chin Peng 1948-2013, implements fair and transparent policies, eshcews making money using GLCs and maintains a normal bureacracy and only rules over us, there is nothing much the Opposition can do until the 14th General Elections. The RED ex-BLUE MCA and the BLUE (lky Washington links) ex RED (S’pore) Singaporean Trojan Horse DAP are only playing to the most powerful character in our neighbourhood. They are not behavinig like Chinese who should normally vote for the incumbent Government even in China. I am sure these fellows are put on a scale of 0, 1-10 being the standard by the Peking chaps. These clever fellows seem to miss the cue all the time.
Ms H. Do not be misled by the clamours of the Singaporean Trojan Horse DAP on the Chin Peng issue. In 1962, my relative, Tan Sri C.C. Too was sent by the Tunku to save the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew with his 10 failed Policies for Singapore which ended up with Operation Cold Store (all Leftists were locked up) which put him in power until now. From 1966-2008, the DAP with its sprirtual leader, LKY, was in Opposition and only contemplated their navels. When chaps sensed the WEAKNESS OF THE UMNO AFTEER 2003, they made a PLUNGE FOR THE LOW HANGING FRUITS (to quote PAP cadres who were parachuted into KL during this period). And as I said before THE OPPOSITION MISSED POWER BY 3 SIMPLE STEPS IN 1997, 2008 & 2013 ! In today’s history, the proscribed Labour Party of Malaya was to the left of the DAP. So what is the DAP with all its LKY Washington links doing now. I do not understand !
Ms H. The brilliant Lee Kuan Yew with his 10 failed Policies for Singapore would award newly retired very senior Malaysian Civil Servants who had served him well with LLDs from NUS. But he ignored Tan Sri Dr C. C. Too when he wrote to him for a similar favour. I saw the letter.
Satu isu yang saya harap kita boleh kupas bersama-sama. Isu ini dicedok dari satu artikel Mkini. Rujuk http://freemalaysiakini2.blogspot.com/2013/09/loads-of-questions-about-chin-pengs_19.html
“Are we going to check every Tom, Dick and Harry who comes in – either by land, sea or air, from Bangkok?” Baljit (right), the former state Gerakan legal and human rights bureau chief, asked.
“And if we do have a suspect, someone who happens to be found with ashes, how are we going to prove they actually belong to Chin Peng?” Baljit asked.
“If we manage to prove it is Chin Peng’s ashes, although I wonder how it is going to be done, will Malaysia be the first country to repatriate someone’s ashes?.
Then, do not bring any ashes from Bangkok (Thailand). Simple does it. Any ashes kept in ‘well honoured container’ justify question. Enough with all the asses the chin peng’s lovers brought up.
As much as we can agree that the ashes of CP shall not be allowed to be brought into Malaysia, the issue here is how to execute or implement the prohibition. Assuming the authorities found a ‘well honoured container’, how to identify that it belongs to CP?
Another question raised by Kee Thuan Chye “But then, for all we know, the ashes might have been sent to someone in, say, Indonesia instead, and this person comes into Malaysia with it, unchecked. Refer to this link.
Then we should have quick DNA test kit or just do the test. Next, compare the result with the late CP’s nephews DNA back in Perak. If positive, then whallack!
This has been answered much earlier. Someone asked the same question in another entry. The answer is this:
1. The announcement and strong stand from the government serves two purpose:
a. To make a clear and strong stand that communism has never been and will never be accepted and tolerated in this country.
b. To give comfort and allay the anger among the public and in particular the former victims and their family members.
The government has to make it loud and clear, otherwise people would think that they are not doing anything about it.
2. There is no way that the government can check every single “ashes” being brought into this country. CP’s family members, followers and even the current supporters here in Malaysia can assigned someone else of other nationality by every mean that he or she can think of. I believe they have planned for this for a long time. Look at it this way, if foreigners can smuggle drugs into this country undetected, do you think this is a big problem?
But do not UNDERESTIMATE the Malaysian Army, Police Force etc, capability. Once they found out, CP’s family members and/or any party who were involved in the “smuggling” will “feel SORRY that they were born.” PERIOD.
Re: But do not UNDERESTIMATE the Malaysian Army, Police Force etc, capability. Once they found out, CP’s family members and/or any party who were involved in the “smuggling” will “feel SORRY that they were born.”
A deputy minister has conceded that there is no law to disallow the ashes of CP from being brought back to Malaysia. Refer here:
So, on what basis the government can penalise the ‘smugglers’ of CP’s ashes if the act itself is not illegal?
Re. So, on what basis the government can penalise the ‘smugglers’ of CP’s ashes if the act itself is not illegal?
Helen has deleted my response to that and you don’t want know about “IT”.
Re: Helen has deleted my response to that and you don’t want know about “IT”.
I am now curious to know your response. I thought this blog advocates freedom of expression.
Minta jasa baik Helen untuk siarkan kembali.
I agree with Helen for deleting it. Freedom of speech is not without limit and the limit is “Never Yell Fire In A Crowded Theater”.
No need to repatriate the ashes kalau jumpa. Flush down the toilet jer…
Let me add my 2 cents worth into LOL’s comments. I don’t think it meets the purpose of this kiasu ppl to smuggle the ashes of that bastard CP quietly into Malaysia.
The point is, these kiasu ppl who keep drumming the issue only want to menyusahkan the authorities and membesar2kan isu ni to gain political mileage, personal mileage etc.
If it has been/will be smuggled quietly, how to war2 kan that the ashes are here? It defeats the purpose, isn’t it? By smuggling in the ashes quietly, they can’t show to the whole world that their ‘hero’ has come back, do all the pompous celebration, gendang sana gendang sini, can they?. Are they gonna announce it to the whole world that they have brought in the ashes, ada berani?
All they can do is, scatter the ashes or better still, put it in their house and everyday quietly sembahyang in front of it: in this situation, ada aku peduli? In anyway, you suruk bangkai macammane pun, lambat laun baunya akan keluar juga.
The government is really sending a clear message that it cannot be tolerated, so ada berani ke these people to announce to the whole world. Kalau ada yang perasan nak jadi jaguh, rasalah consequencesnyer. PERIOD (to requote LOL)
I am really fed up with this opportunist and commies lover. Just admit this fact whomever support this chimp peng. PERIOD!!!
Dear helen, kdn should take immediate action on dap-star irresponsible chin peng white-wash campaign
Todate dap-star has succesfully implanting sub-liminal message or creating perception to its million readers that cpeng isba war hero
Kdn must reprimand dap-star,instruct dap-stars to issue 10 consequtive days of front page advertisement stating cp is a terrorist and traitor to yg dipertuan agong and malaysian public
Another piece of Star spin to divert from the real issue, see http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2013/09/22/Time-to-leave-the-CPM-era-behind.aspx
The J-Star today quotes an interviewee as saying:
The above spin by The J-Star is a strawman argument. The issue is not that today’s spoilt brat Malaysian Gen Y would not be leaving their iPads and Sunway sandwiches to subsist on rations in the jungle.
The issue is the decision of the authorities (from Najib down) to disallow the return of Chin Peng’s ashes because he was considered the country’s public enemy No.1 and he was trying to topple the elected government and destroy the monarchy.
Dah melampau dah akhbar evangelista tu!!
I really don’t understand the love affair for the Communists among the Star. History has shown us that communist movements are always violent and intolerant of dissent. Modern China also shows us that they are corrupt, with officials amassing massive fortunes.
As for the Gen Y who said that Communism or the CPM were not so bad, bunch stupid spoiled brats who don’t even know what communism is. And the interviewee won’t give up his IPAD either. Most likely the Commies would just shoot him as he is a “bourgeois” class enemy.
re: “I really don’t understand the love affair for the Communists among the Star.”
You’ll need to assuage your perplexity by examining the Scissorati through the question: What kind of people are they?
re: communists “intolerant of dissent”
A trait passed on to their cucu-cicit.
Well the same can be said of democratic, oh sorry, capitalist movements of the right/left wing schism. Or how about religious movements ?
Modern Malaysia also shows us that we are corrupt, with officials amassing massive (is there any other kind ?) fortunes, which is probably why we trade with China so enthusiastically.
The British armed Chin Peng just like they did any other Colonial militia. They always knew that an armed vassal was a dangerous one, but a convenient propaganda tool to pacify the unthinking.
Democratic countries have rarely engaged in the massive bloodletting that Communist regimes have unleashed on their own citizens.
Religious movements can match the intolerance of Communism. Afterall Marxist-Lennism/Maoism proclaim that only their path is the path of truth similar to religions. Indeed, Christianity has a history of persecuting those who do not agree with their creed.
The closest thing in Islam that matches that is that virus known as Salafism. Even then, Saudi Arabia is hardly the totalitarian state that Stalin’s USSR, Mao’s China or Pol Pot’s Cambodia were. Indeed, in terms of unleashing terror on its own citizens, I really don’t think there is anything that matches the violence of Communist regimes. They routinely engage in mass killings, collectivization, one-party dictatorship, economic mismanagement, labor camps, secret police etc.
I am fully aware that Malaysia has corrupt elements like China. My statement on China was formed in response to the idiots on Malaysiakini who think that if we went Red, we would have a good economy and a lot of millionaires.
Really ? America is considered the greatest democracy in the world and it’s history of violence on its own people (post independence) is well documented not to mention its history of violence on foreign soil.
To assume that religious movements and democratic movements are mutually exclusive is a mistake. And to assume that Christianity is the only religion that persecutes people who do not believe in its creed factually wrong.
While you may think that the excess of the Religious kind in Saudi Arabia does not match up to the Communism of the former Soviet Union, mass killings, economic mismanagement , camps of numerous kinds, secret and religious police are the spiritual link of regimes like Saudi Arabia and the former USSR.
The fact that USSR did those things but also had in place an education system, invested and competed in technological advances separates it from the Saudi Regime or any other theocratic Regimes powered by Islamic excess and Western connivance in the Middle East.
Iraq (pre “Liberation”) could stand in for Cambodia and is just one of numerous examples that is evidence that communism is not the great evil of our time or ever was. There is plenty of evil to go around and there always will be.
The morons on Malaysiakini are confused. China is a dictatorship with only a mask of communism. Capitalism is the new Religion there which is why they (Mkini morons) confuse it with going Red. They have no idea what Communism is or Islam or Christianity.
What they have like their Establishment counterparts, are platitudes passed of as truth.
however some so called democratic countries brought hitler n mussolini to power, though we could argue the problem isn’t the initial democratic process, rather it’s the subsequent loss of democratic rights that could be the cause.
n our history already shown that most malaysian pick democratic. one party dictatorship r not limited to only communist countries, look into the mirror n look down south :)
Very good HY.
Which is why we should always keep in mind Churchill’s House of Commons rejoinder : “Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.”
HY. Do not say look down South. Say just look at the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew with his 10 failed Policies for Singapore since 1955.
uncle, stop ingratiate yourself la, pandering to yr audience may get u cheers but it isn’t advancing yr point. read forrestcat n ellese that commend both mahathir n lky while i condemn both leaders, we might disagree with each other but at least we’ve been consistent throughout, unlike u we are not being selective bec the m.o. of both old man is more or less same. tell me mahathir 10 failed policies, or less is still fine, then i might stop laughing at yr comment :)
‘uncle, stop ingratiate yourself la,’
The same can be said about you!
‘tell me mahathir 10 failed policies, or less is still fine, then i might stop laughing at yr comment :)’
See what I mean?
HY. Good for you boy ! You will never die. I have a list of 53 young men who thought I die first. The youngest was 39. He died with his millions of ringgits. Scared to even mention the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew with his 10 failed Policies for Singapore ! Scared ! Brainwashed ! You only know how to BULLY ME ! Shame on you !
HY. You show me TDM’s 10 failed Policies. I believe you are one of them !
‘HY. You show me TDM’s 10 failed Policies. I believe you are one of them !’
Good one AK!
HY. The boy with the adult inferiority complex.
HY. You should only condemn with facts not fiction. In the case of the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew with his 10 failed Polcies for Singapore, IT WAS A ONE MAN SHOW FROM 1955 !
HY. Being condescending and ask others to suck eggs when you only know how to talk badly will get you know where.
Bangsa Cina adalah pendatang di Tanah Besar Cina.. asal mereka adalah dari planet Pluto.
sial nya cina cina ni adalah kerana kuat berlagak pandai
aku pun undi pembangkang tahun 1999 masa cina undi mahathir ramai ramai
masa tu melayu tak berlagak pandai pun semata mata kerana berani tolak BN
cina undi DAP dua kali dah perasan che guevara
Helen, you might want to check on Jeff Ooi’s “personal” trip to Bangkok to attend CP’s funeral. The NST picked it up but the nothing on the Star or the Oppo-lovin portals.
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