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Reasons for Zahid’s popularity and getting support

By Ellese

Ellese’s comment originally @ 2013/10/09 at 2:55 am

Dear Helen,

With due respect, I have to disagree [Helen’s views HERE]. It’s not about Zahid. It’s about standing up to the cocky tokong and the gang. Zahid embodies that.

The thing is with 2/3 Malays are with Umno, being assertive and certain against the tirade of Lim Guan Eng and the gang is what Malays including non Umno’s want. Many Malays voted Umno not because they support it 100% but because of the threat of the unity of Chinese under DAP that bulldoze against anything Malay without impunity. The Allah issue is a case in point.

Zahid is refreshing from the defensive Najib. Malays are nowadays so shameful for being a Malay and scared being called racist. DAP has turned anything Malay as racist but anything Chinese as Malaysian. Zahid embodies a person who dare to stand up against the racist DAP. And we need more of him. So let us put LGE in his rightful place.

Ps. I am a resident head and always advocate that people who threatens my family and neighbours are not deserving any sympathy. The guards will do what is ‘necessary’ before handing the beaten up robbers or snatch thatchers to me and the police.

I have no sympathy to those who threatened and tie up my kids and family. Security first.

By Calvin Sankaran

Calvin’s comment originally @ 2013/10/09 at 2:33 pm

I am sorry Helen – I got to disagree with you on this.

I am a firm believer in Newton’s Law in politics too – that every action has an equal reaction.

So when the Chinese overwhelmingly rejected BN/Umno in GE13, they did not consider the fact that there will be consequences. Najib been the most pro-non bumi PM after TAR and he showered much policy gifts on the Chinese and done much for the Indians. He rolled back many restrictions on the non bumis and liberalized the economy. He also done much to democratize the country by repealing many outdated laws.

What did he get in return ? Nothing, nada from the Chinese. By rejecting him, they rejected all his policy changes and overtures – basically they spit on his face and told him to go to hell. Burning his photos and putting his pic on altar of the death are some of the examples the Chinese expressed their “gratitude”.

So what do you expect Najib to do? Go down on his knees and beg for forgiveness and votes? While ignoring and punishing those who voted for him (Malays and poor Indians)?

On top of this we have non Malays (especially Christians) becoming so vocal in condemning and even insulting the Malays and Muslims (especially the evangelistas of DAP). Malays are by nature [patient] and polite but many in private are seething in anger at all these insults and threats. To many Malays, Umno and the royalty are the embodiment of the Malay spirit and identity. But attacking these two institutions and calling Umno as dogs and racists on daily basis is only hardening the Malay stance and eroding their patience.

I agree with Ellese that people like Zahid not because he is an ultra Malay but because he’s someone who stands up to the bullying ways of Dapsters and not afraid to put them in their place. Malays are tired of the insults thrown at them. The Dapsters have gone to the extent where the word Malay is means “racist”. In the utopian world of Bangsar Malaysia, being a Malay is a crime and a shame.

I don’t agree with his shoot first policy but I fully support him on his anti crime drive – finally the police are on the winning side. I am not sure what exactly he meant with his latest statement – I would believe the spins of Mkini 100%. But I did read that he did not refer to “3 line” to the gang but Perkida a social organization.

So in essense, Zahid represents the Malay self respect (maruah) just like Hannah embodies the Christian extremism and Guan Eng the Chinese “kurang ajar-ism” and biawak-ism.

Hannah Yeoh (hannahyeoh) on Twitter 2013-10-09 16-00-30

By Grandmarquis

Grandmarquis’ comment originally @ 2013/10/09 at 1:46 pm

Hi Helen,

In this kind of time we might need someone like Zahid. Frankly, for all the while, the Malay dislike people who acted like Zahid. But today, the thumping and the arrogance of LGE and his bunch of DAPster is beyond tolerance that we need someone to put a slap on their face.

Look at the recent CEC case where they unrepentantly call ROS as Umno’s running dog while anyone even with a pea brain would know that Umno has nothing to do with the DAP fiasco. This is not coming out from Red Bean, but by some top brass in DAP. The arrogance of DAP has gone overboard that they think anything blamed on Umno will be swallowed without any repercussion. It is just like ‘if you are Umno, we are free to accuse you of anything’.

Many people (Malay) may not like Umno, but trying insulting our intelligence stupidity and hypocrisy is just too much to be handled.

By Setem

Setem’s comment originally @ 2013/10/09 at 8:29 am

I also don’t agree with you, Helen, as far as Zahid is concerned.

Zahid simply embodies the spirit of Malays fighting back against racists of DAP, Dong Zong, etc.

My guess is that Najib is actually “using” Zahid to make a point to the targetted groups that he’s disappointed for the lack of supports from those groups that he had worked hard to appease.

Zahid has my fullest support.

Setem’s comment originally @ 2013/10/09 at 1:52 pm

You guys should take a note that PAS and PKR top leaders (the Malays) are pretty silent about Zahid.

It’s an open secret that Anwar has always a soft spot for Zahid. Zahid was among the very few Umno fellas who did not immediately abandon Anwar when Anwar was kicked out of Umno.

By Hassan Ali

Hassan’s comment originally @ 2013/10/09 at 9:07 am

Orang rata-rata Melayu menyokong apa yang Zahid, Ali Rustam dan mereka yang senada dengan nya katakan.

Perasaan Melayu sudah lama tersinggung dengan cacian dan hinaan oleh bangsa pendatang terutama DAP terhadap agama, bangsa dan raja-raja Melayu.

Sekarang apa nak jadi, jadilah. Kesabaran Melayu ada hadnya.

By Rizwan

Rizwan’s comment originally @ 2013/10/09 at 1:49 pm | In reply to Eddy Daud

Agreed… time for real bad ass Malay leader to come out and put the ungrateful Malay and non-Malay on their rightful seats.

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  1. The is the problem of race based politic. UMNO has been using Chinese as their bogeyman blaming everything on Chinese. In order to gain Malay support, they try to portrait themselves as Malay hero. In order to become Malay hero means Chinese must be defeated and made bow to Malay. SO what do you think the Chinese reaction? Of course the Chinese will disapprove Zahid, can’t be just accepting the made up claim by Zahid.

    You can punish Chinese for not supporting the UMNO but one thing for sure, Chinese WILL NOT bow to pressure, the more pressure and discriminations against Chinese, the more the Chinese will not support UMNO and resist them, Chinese is survivor and the crook corrupted UMNO elites cannot survive without Chinese tycoon. They are abang adik and only ‘stupid’ rakyat of all races believe their race based politic tactic and fighting among each others for race pride but they sama-sama enjoy their wealth.

    1. Well said and true.
      So now it is up to your type of ungrateful Chinese to place banners on every Chinese coffee shop, every Chinese workshop, every Chinese sundry shop, every whatever Chinese shops that Malay patronage were not wanted because the Chinese can survive without the Malay support!

        1. hello malaysian. like this la. why dont you reform your chinese businessmen and ask them not to adopt any melayu name on their products such as teh cap masjid, pau ahmad or beras jati. instead give name such as teh cap tokong, pau ah fook or beras dong zong. so you don’t confuse the malay community who gratefully form part of your customer base. do you have any guts?

          1. haha! First thing like Ali rustam said, are the Malay want to stop patronizing toto, magnum? Are the JAKIM dare to stop issuing halal certification to non Muslim? But I forgot the Malay are bunch of easily confused community, that’s UMNO mati mati want to defend Allah name as they know Malay can easily confused by name.

            1. Malaysian,

              UMNO “mati mati ” defend….

              It is easy actually. as we are reminded by AlQuran no less about people like “you”” who will only be satisfied only when Muslims follow your way.

              Why on earth Christian pastors want to use “allah” when the word is not even once mentioned in Bible, old or new King James version. Why?

            2. Yelah… we Malays are a confused lot.. but things are getting clearer now.. we know what you are up to?

              In Australia.. the ex PM is asking your kind to fly kites.. I believe the same sentiments resonate over here and getting louder

            3. hello stupid malaysian. the muslim who patronize sports toto and magnum are clear cut cases of non practising muslim. i’m talking about perishable goods and essential items produced in the market. right now there’s alot of goods in the market that used names which is so in malay and even sounds islamic. and majority of malay’ve been duped by this simple marketing ploy by chinese manufacturer. the most hilarious thing is, i bet these manufacturer does not converse in malay regularly but yet use malay name as a product. in fact you should be thankful that JAKIM allows the halal certification to be applied by company regardless of its status and used as part of marketing tools via recognition from an authority body, not the other way round, bollocks!

          2. And if they do that, you will go ‘Hah! See, they refuse to use Bahasa Melayu language! They think they are still in China. How dare they?’

            Choose ‘A’, you will condemn. Choose ‘B’, you also condemn.

            1. hello sir, if you want to use malay, use it on full purpose. not for gains only.

              since majority chinese segregate themselves by learning in sjkc, watching mandarin/cantonese channel, reading nanyang siang pau and china press and mingle among chinese 80% of their daily life, might as well go full swing and produce goods that reflect their social upbringing. why only when it comes to making money, suddenly bahasa melayu is important.

              btw you put word in my mouth. either you dont understand or just plain imbecile, i in the first place dare chinese businessmen to take the bold path and use your precious 1st class civilization language that you really adore and willing to die for on your products.

              1. re: “hello sir, if you want to use malay, use it on full purpose. not for gains only.”

                Yup, like Kit Siang’s blog suddenly featuring press statements in Malay during the GE13 campaign period. Then after the election over, the use of Malay disappeared by his blog just as suddenly. He’s also MIA from Gelang Patah.

                Likewise Hannah Yeoh beginning to tweet a few words of Malay after the backlash suffered from Chinese tsunami. Hipokrit bukan kepalang.

              2. Segregate?

                You mean such as making Indian students eat in a changing room?

                Or by creating fear, uncertainty, and doubt with fantastic conspiracy theories of other races plotting to usurp power?

                Or by exclusive taxpayer funded institutions reserved for one race and religion?

                Or being told by certain religious leaders and politicians not to mix with the ‘infidels’ for fear of being contaminated?

        2. Come on guys. This is not about Malay or Chinese. It’s about umnos desperation to stay in power and political parasites like Helen ang who facilitate their bullshit. Don’t let politics come inbetween race and religion.

          1. ddd,

            As long as the Malays remain the majority race and there is no other relevant party for the Malays, UMNO will continue to stay in power. The GE 13 has proven that we UMNO/ Malays don’t need the Chinese votes to rule the country. And you cannot separate the Malays from Islam. To the Malays, race and religion embody each other and so is politics.

            If you think Helen Ang is a political parasite, pray tell, why are you visiting her blog? Malaysiakini, FMT and other opposition blogs don’t give you the satisfaction as they only tell lies?

            1. True dat. You don’t need cainis votes to rule the country. you just need cainis bogeymen.

            2. Err..you seem to be taken in by the rubbish from Helen. There was NO Chinese fucking tsunami. It was a simply a matter of people voting against a poorly managed government. And Malays voted too. So try if you can and look at the big picture. Not the rubbish Helen dishes daily.

              1. re: “Not the rubbish Helen dishes daily.”

                Why are you in my blog daily, 24/7, and oftentimes the first to comment under your various pseudonyms?

          2. “don’t let politics come in between race and religion “.

            Vote for DAP ,Vote for Jesus …

            Bro who desperate to grab the power..

          3. “This is not about Malay or Chinese. It’s about umnos desperation to stay in power” –

            Ya right that’s the BS you keep telling Malays but what actually you want is to kill UMNO and then split the Malays into three so they now become weaker than the Chinese so you can run the country by default.

            1. Hi Calvin,

              On a different subject.

              I read your articles, “Mathematical proof of Chinese Tsunami (Part 1 & 2). Very interesting analysis.

              Could I have the datasets you used. I’d like to re-run them. I’m at gregore.lopez@anu.edu.au

              Also, I’d be interested to hear your views on this article which uses a different theoretical framework:

              Click to access iseas_perspective_2013_34_steadily_amplified_votes_decide_malaysian_elections.pdf

              Also, in your opinion do think its important to understand why the Malaysian Chinese community voted the way they did, and conversely, the reason the Malay community voted the way they did.

              Also, do you think its important to understand it from a non-ethnic perspective (e.g. income levels, educational levels, gender, age, etc.)

              Thanks very much.

    2. I am glad that a typical Dapster like you come out and share your thoughts and motivations. I hear this dumb talk all the time from my colleagues so I am not terribly surprised.

      Don’t you think DAP is doing the same thing to the Chinese by using UMNO as the bogeyman ? Don’t you think that to appear as Chinese hero DAP is making PAS & PKR 50 sen Malay who is happy to take his 50 sen to buy ais kerim while allowing DAP to pocket billions?

      The question is not if the Chinese will or will not bow. It doesn’t matter. The demographics is changing. 2013 is the last GE where Chinese had the power to change the govt that would be led by Chinese but they failed! After this the Chinese will shrink and shrink. By 2018, many of Chinese majority seats will no longer be Chinese majority. Mark my words, even if the Chinese vote DAP 100% in the GE14, DAP will lose a lots of seats. UMNO will gain far more seats than this time and I am sure BN will retain 2/3 majority in the parliament.

      88% of Chinese voted for PR and there is very little difference if 100% of Chinese had voted Pakatan. With their decling birthrate, they are toast next GE. And Najib need not worry about getting their votes, The window of opportunity has passed.

      Even Penang will no longer be Chinese-majority and the next CM will be from UMNO. And if my Chinese buddies here don’t like it, I always suggest that they move to Kelantan.

      Whether the Chinese will or won’t bow makes no difference whatsoever since they will lose their leverage. And when that happens it will be the Chinese who will reach be desperate to assimilate with the rest of the country. If they won’t , they have everything to lose.

      We Indians know it and I am sure that we can live peacefully with bumis. And we know that the Malays are people who adopt the “live and let live” concept. But for the Chinese, they can expect payback. People have long memories.

      1. Wishful thinking, Calvin. Do you know that many people in Barisan Nasional were thinking they would wrest back Selangor and Kelantan and regain their two-thirds majority in this election? Instead, Barisan Nasional lost more Parliament seats.

        “We Indians know it and I am sure that we can live peacefully with bumis. And we know that the Malays are people who adopt the “live and let live” concept. But for the Chinese, they can expect payback. People have long memories”

        Good luck if you think you can live peacefully with the far right from Barisan Nasional. Remember not to object if your children are ordered to eat in a shower room. If they protest the presence of a Hindu temple with the head of a cow, just say ‘Yes sir, yes sir, three bags fool (sic)’

        1. You are still don’t understand Malay. Look at SK Prestina case do you heard any comments from PAS ? Do you think PAS continue to be with DAP and PKR ? What will happen to PAS if they continue supporting DAP on Allah issue ?

          Please keep dreaming bro and please tell your friend to keep believing.

        2. Yes, it was true that BN thought it could win Selangor but I don’t think it was the case with Kelantan. So what’s the relevance of it all here ? Pakatoos too were dreaming of capturing Putra Jaya but you know what they lost two states (Perak and Kedah).

          Indians have lived here in Malaysia peacefully for decades, in fact much more peacefully and better off than in India. No regrets.

          Well, we Indians being discriminated in the Pakatan’s Paradise of Penang even today. In the land of meritocracy, Indians and Malays hardly can even get called up for interviews much less hired. Indians with equal qualifications and capabilities are being sigificantly less paid too. Is this DAP brand of meriticracy where some are more equal than others ?

          1. You mean the DAP is controlling the job market and MNCs too?

            Btw, re ‘The demographics is changing…’, if that is true then time will take its course and why get our panties in knots now, the cainis will kowtow when the time comes. besides, just like the indians, every one out of seven person you meet in the world will be a cainis. heck even ms america universe is ms indian american. my, how the times have changed. kita tengoklah nanti.

          2. the DAPster cainis should stop whining not getting these and that, many bumis and non cainis also bear the grunt of their corrupted mythical meritocratic ways.

            Since Sri Prostana isssue, the DAPsters using this issue to incite racial hatred, I bet their shameless dishwasher and fruit picker agents in Australia and UK are actively telling the gweilos how evil and racist malays… i have heard one Malaysian cina tell that EPF and Petronas are lazy bum and thiefs to a visting US colleague over lunch, they had to go that far to spit on their country and hardworking countrymen in front of foreigners just to see Malaysia burn.

            1. Why accuse the DAP for the Seri Pristana issue? Many people in PKR were upset over it, even some people in the Cabinet and Barisan Nasional joined the uproar; Vell Pairi and Waythamoorthy among others.

      2. You have to understand, Chinese are not like Indian who can just change heir religion and become mamak and suddenly become bumiputera and can even blend into UMNO. Indian are also smaller in number that’s why they are not the target used by UMNO as bogeyman.

        Chinese aren’t afraid of payback. We already anticipated that and be prepared to take that risk. Before internet era, BN can play race card within own community but not anymore in internet era where racial slur will definitely invite response from other race.

        The recent strong racial sentiment among UMNO leaders are all effort to gain support but do you think the Chinese will sit tight like sitting duck and accept all the blame? When Chinese become minority then they maybe king maker. The Malay will then start fighting among themselves in order to gain power and at that time Chinese support will appeared even more important so no worry about Chinese become minority.

        1. You don’t understand what I am telling, are you ?

          And you really think Chinese community’s voting en bloc is not considered as racist ?

          In this age, you can run but cannot hide. It is good that you aren’t afraid of payback, for its coming Dapsters’ way real soon.

          1. What runaway? Chinese are standing firm in front of UMNO. What can you do if we continue to vote against UMNO? Send us all back to china? Boleh ke?

        2. AC-DC ..you see ” Chinese are not like Indian who just change their religion and become mamak”

          Keep believing DAP wil be fair to Indian ha ha ha ….

          And Malaysian please throw more comments ..seem so easy to take on Chinese nowadays.

        3. You may speak for yourself but please don’t insult the Chinese community like this.

          Until today, some of these Chinese people still could not accept the fact that they were fooled by Anwar & DAP. Like they say, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice… I lost count.

          In their attempt to mask their folly, they would rather see peace & harmony destroyed, just to fulfill their fantasy. Beneath all the bravado, lies insecurity. Best to deal with it and move on. Failing which, they will prove to be a disgrace to the community and become outcasts instead.

          On the contrary, the Chinese, especially those who subscribe to your way of thinking, did not anticipate losing. And they still fail to come to terms with reality & the truth.

          No one is denying them their right to vote whichever party they prefer. Just don’t drag the Chinese community’s dignity, or whatever is left of it, through the mud in the process. Thank you very much.

        4. “Chinese aren’t afraid of payback”; you sure or not. Come crisis time.. your kind will be the first to pack their bags..It had happened before. .here in Malaysia, Vietnam and Indonesia.

          Continuelah provoking us and see …the anger is simmering beneath ..wait for the wind to blow and latent heat will sure become a big fire..

          1. true that again. they even fled their own motherland in time of crisis. mahaichaucainis!

            save your anger Goondoo and channel it into something more productive like uplifting your people. even if the last cainis is chased out of tanah melayu, it’s not going to catapult tanah melayu into a high income nation like what some people want you to believe. oh wait, there is brunei and qatar and the other oil rich states where people just share the country’s wealth..no need to work so hard.. yahoo! why innovate and create facebook, twitter, iphone, etc.. when you can just buy it. Ali-Barber instead of Ali Baba.

            1. Aiyah lu ingat itu Srivijaya and Melaka and Kedah Tua and Bujang Valley semua maju pasal lu ka?

              Lu punya olang lu boleh howsiau!!!

              At least all the minyak we can have for ourselves maa! BETTER WHAT!!!

    3. Malaysian,

      On the contrary, it is DAP that creates imaginery enemy in chinese mind. Bear in mind( as I repeatedly said) , If UMNO is racist, it will simply bulldozes on other communities. And do tell me which other party that have the capablity to stop UMNO even now?

      I am not boasting or glorifying UMNO. It has its fair share of weaknesses. But it is not racist. If it is racist, it would not have agreed to massive citizenship exercise (as i often repeatedly said) unmatched by other countries in this planet. overnight, the land that exclusively belongs to Malays become multi racial.

      Nobody is punishing the chinese. They voted themselves out of the government. And they must accept reality that the government of the day will give priority to those who voted it in the office. that is called “law of human nature’.,

      Malays are not worried that chinese no longer supported UMNO. that is the fact. After all, what can be expected from the chinese?

      1. That maybe true but Chinese aren’t afraid to vote en bloc again against UMNO. Chinese support cannot be gained by intimidating them

        1. You still don’t understand, do you? UMNO DOES NOT REQUIRE THE CHINESE VOTES TO RULE! Get it!

        2. Malaysian,

          No sane malay leaders from UMNO will beiieve chinese anymore short of saying it out loud.

          Please keep your support to DAP. We are not worried. After all, Najib still can form a sovereign government recognised by the whole world.

          One good thing that comes out from PRU13 is that nowadays UMNO ,leaders will no longer says “undi cina jadi penentu”.

        3. Malaysian, you have not seen the worst side of the Malay yet. Keep pushing and being BIADAP, you will meet your match one of these days.

    4. Malaysia….your comment absolute nonsense ….. ”could provide your hard facts to back-up your claim that UMNO has been using Chinese? Or other way around, everybody know Chinese is using financial muscle to bride Malays politician till policemen. The hole Malaysian knew how DAP and Chinese newspaper blaming UMNO for all bad thing happen in Malaysia, it’s easy to make wild claims and smart arse comments.

      As I said before, Malaysian Chinese wanted to control Malaysia from day one they step in to Malaya during 1930s. Chinese almost succeed after Japanese surrender in WWII 1945 via CPM – Chen Peng, they manage to control Malaya for 1 month before British take control the hole Malaya. That why Chinese wanted to expend Chinese school by NOT sending Chinese kids to National school. These Middle-Kingdom mindset, always says Chinese are superior race other sucks or barbarian. Moreover, Malaysian Chinese don’t what to integrate with all race in Malaysia, don’t you what Malaysian Chinese think they are superior race because of DAP LIM dynasty. If you go to Penang you could see Chinese Recreation Club (CRC) in Burmah Road, Penang Chinese Swimming club at Tanjong Tokong, Chinese this Chinese that. However, it reminded me of South Africa during apartheid regime, the rise of Chin supremacy in Penang. Well done DAP…

    5. I think it is a recent phenomena – UMNO becoming Ultra Malay. Although they might be Ultra from the start, public show of Ultraness by UMNO leaders is recent afaik.

      Apart from post GE13, as far as I can remember, UMNO has been accused by PAS, Semangat 46 as not being Malay and Islamic enough. UMNO was seen to be ‘soft’ (to put it mildly) to Chinese. UMNO were giving contract to Chinese and marginalizing Malay (apart from Malay Cronies of course).

      MCA, DAP and Chinese should remember what their ally PAS has been doing in 80s and 90s.

      When PAS is in PR, what do you think are UMNO options when they are attack left (Ultra Malay, Racist) and right (not Malay and Islamic enough)?

    6. Remember what Zahid exposed? The biggest drug dealers are Chinese and the victims are native Malays. That is, the drug problems are caused by chinese drug lords just out for profit.

      The Malays must be protected against the Chinese drug lords. It is a war against drugs pushers and smugglers.

      So let us Malays all support Zahid in his war agaisnt chinese drug lords and killers.

    7. These NUJ chinese reporters are drug mules mah.
      They didnt protest when TV3 or Utusan were blocked from reporting Penang public assembly.

  2. Cepatnya JStar.
    http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2013/10/09/ahmad-zahid-hamidi-media-practitioners.aspx

    “Zahid was reported to have made sensitive remarks at the forum. He also allegedly threatened media members and chased them out of the hall as it was a “closed door event.”

    National Union of Journalist (NUJ) president Chin Sung Chew called on all media practitioners to stand united and not be cowed by such irrational behaviour”

    Yes. Tuan , saya sokong you. If Iguana can sue, OKM can make make remarks about the Bangla voters and Woo Wing Thye can spin lies about the GST used as a tool to pay for BN dinners and countless other bullshit., you can Tuan! Tuan, please close all those stupid papers. We the reading public are sick of gossip writers posing as serious reporters. Real reporters check their work. Even ENews gets their reporters to verify the gossip!

    In fact you are saviour of real journalists. Tuan. Gua Sokong Lu! You bring dignity to real journalists and you save the public from rubbish pulp fiction.

    1. Kah kah kah… masa LGE biawak dan DAPster hentam Utusan ada ke NUJ backing? FUCK OFF NUJ

  3. Datuk Seri Zahid Hamidi if you are reading this. Hear this YOU ARE THE “BOMB” and stand by your words, we will support you to the death. There is no turning back now and they will get over it…..

  4. Re: “… non Malays (especially Christians) becoming so ….”

    Especially Christians. Let me repeat that; ESPECIALLY CHRISTIANS.

    CHRISTIANS nowadays, at least here in Malaysia, are the chosen ones. They are supposedly well educated, of at least middle class & hold a substantial no of votes which may eventually turn out to be kingmakers in the next election.

    Never mind the suspect morality of the opposition leaders. Never mind their blatant hypocrisy or plain as day hatred, as opposed to the love preached by Jesus. The evil, great Satan that is UMNO & BN must be eradicated at any & all costs.

    Led by brainless, self righteous leaders, the Christian church will eventually fall to its’ knees for all her excesses, hypocrisy & all round shit. Lest the bible quotes spewing brigade needing any reminder, last time they were led out of Egypt away from the clutches of the evil pharaoh, they ended up wandering in the desert for forty years. Now, ain’t God a bitch for subjecting them to that?

    On another note, those living in the vicinity of Kelana Jaya Stadium, get ready for hell on Sunday. The Catholic Archbishop of KL has “wisely” decided to cancel all services in all churches this Sunday in order to organize a massive rally in honor of Mary at KJ Stadium. Talk about Christianity being an inclusive religion yet forcing devotees from as far away as Pahang & NS to drive down to KJ for the 9am-1pm rally. And in case you’re wondering, yeah, I’m not going. I’ll answer for my absence from Sunday service to God, and God alone. As for the smartasses in church who dreamed this out, they’ll do the same when judgment comes.

    Now who says the holy, the clergy & the faithful churchgoers are always right?

  5. If Zahid was a DAP, PKR or PAS member and he said what ever it is that he said, would it come out in the papers? I don’t think so….. well except maybe Utusan.

    I don’t think anyone in Malaysia is racist, they just make an issue out of anything that can get them political gain. Just so happens that the hot issue now is Race.

  6. I actually disdain the corruption elements of UMNO, but so do I see the corruption of meritocracy by the Chinese corporates in the private sector, hence, what choice do I have? Embrace UMNO and maintain the status quo where regardless of the NEP, the economy is growing or embrace the DAP and their meriticrats shamans who will say that I am not employed by their Chinese HR because I am low quality, Malays, Muslims and do not speak Chinese(Mandarin,Hokkien?)….that is my political thoughts,

    1. We, the Malays have no choice but to support UMNO. Nak harapkan PKR and PAS seperti ‘mengharapkan pagar, pagar makan padi’.

      1. Aku Melayu,

        Saya pun begitu juga. Nak harapkan PKR, disana ada makhluk yang Nabi tak mengaku umat. Nak harapkan PAS, ia terlalu “merafak sembah” DAP.

        Jadi UMNOlah satu satunya pilihan. Bukan bermakna kita pun setuju sangat dengan UMNO ni. Najib pun Melayu tak berapa suka sebab suka sangat terlebih ambil hati orang Cina.

        Tapi hati Melayu terubat tengok Dr Zahid Hamidi. Rupanya masih ada juga ‘jantan” dalam UMNO ni.

        1. Sorrylah. PKR dah diam sejak si Anwar tak jadi PM. PAS pulak dah diam pun. Pakatan Rakyat kini pakatan orang Lim, Singh dan Nga.

          1. I am Mulan,

            PAS dah “diam” sekarang. Sebab dah sedar orang melayu muak dengan perangai PAS. Sebab tu PAS kalah di Kedah.

            Dan pada PKR, ia hanya berguna bila UMNO dapat ditumbanglan. Bila UMNO masih berkuasa, PKR jadi “redundant’.

            1. Correct, correct, correct. Tak lama lagi PKR akan dikuburkan. PAS either it reinvents itself (stay away from DAP) or it will lose the Malay supports and then kaput just like PKR.

              The Malay leaders in PAS and PKR are really dumb. Being Malays themselves, they are ‘buta hati’ when it comes to Malay sentiments. They try to appear liberal by playing the kalimah Allah issue, NEP and they deserve what they get. It’s not like the Malays love UMNO but to us, UMNO is still the best party for us. We know very well that 1 vote for PAS or PKR will translate into 1 vote for DAP, the party that we despise.

              1. Aku melayu,

                I often asked my PAS fiends what exactly PAS trying to achieve. All of them said they wanted Islamic state with Islamic law fully implemented.

                I told them off that no way PAS will a achieve its goal, for a number of reasons too. First of all, very few PAS members exhibit “akhlak” as expected of good Muslims. They cry out loud for islam, at the same time they slander, insinuate.

                Secondly PAS has yet to table its version of islamic law. It is more concern with “ceramah” day in day out.

                And i must say that I find PAS as hypocrite.

                Lately I notice changes in Malay community. Subtle it may be. Nevertheless it is a profound change. Short of saying it they already gives up any hope of genuine friendship with non Malays. Even all UMNO members whom I met said that.

                And not to forget that majority of Malays feel Anwar is “redundant”.

                1. re: “Short of saying it they already gives up any hope of genuine friendship with non Malays. Even all UMNO members whom I met said that.”

                  Dr M foresaw this when he gave his warning about Gelang Patah. A new order – the two-race system that the Firsters are clamouring for – is taking shape.

                  1. Re. A new order – the two-race system that the Firsters are clamouring for – is taking shape.

                    Yes. Once that’s completed. The following will be easier to implement.

                    1. Muslim Centric Nation
                    2. Malay Centric Nation
                    3. The rest have just to follow.

                    There are three types of Malay presently.

                    1. Moderate Muslim Malay – Majority of the population

                    2. Liberal Muslim Malay – Urban

                    3. Islamist – by definition they are “a scholar who knowledgeable in Islamic studies”. There are many of them around currently, through Sekolah Menegah Agama Rakyat, Sekolah Agama Podok, Maahad, Sekolah Taafiz and those who are currently studying and have graduated from the Universities in the middle east and Nortn Africa i.e. Egypt. In Egypt for example there 11,400 registered students currently and 7000 of students study Medicine and majority are from Sekolah Agama Rakyat and the likes. They are the professional who study both the religious syllabus and professional fields. The number is growing. For instance, all reputable Sekolah Agama Pondok, Tahfiz, Maahad and the likes are have hundred percent enrollment and application start as early as at 6 years old.

                    1. You think Sekolah Agama Pondok is “KOLOT”, just read this.

                    “Dato’ Dr Afifi al-Akiti (born 1976), BA (Queen’s), MA (Oxon), MSt (Oxon), DPhil (Oxon), MSIEPM – also known as Shaykh Afifi[1][2] – is KFAS Fellow in Islamic Studies at the Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies,[3] and Islamic Centre Lecturer in Islamic Studies at the Faculty of Theology, University of Oxford,[4] and is a Fellow of Worcester College, Oxford. He is the first ever Malay to be appointed to such a position in this world famous University.”

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afifi_al-Akiti

                    Fyi, he started from Sekolah Pondok, studying literally at the foot of various “Ulamak” in Malaysia, Indonesia and the Middle East and made his way to Oxford University.

                    2. There maybe resistance by liberal Muslim Malay, but pushing to the limit by the Dapsters and with positive development and impression made by group 3, group 2 will get over it and join the bandwagon. Many from group 1 is rooting for and moving into group 3.

                    3. Is this A WARNING or A Threat? To the non-Muslims maybe, but for us the Muslim Malay it is a BLESSING.

                    Note for everyone Malaysia is truly the most moderate Muslim country in the world currently. While in Indonesia, despite her pluralistic religious approach, have seen many racial and religious clash through the country and still going on.

                    TAK NAK KONGSI? TAK APA. Everything happens for a reason.

                    1. re: “Note for everyone Malaysia is truly the most moderate Muslim country in the world currently.”

                      You are quite possibly correct.

                      re: “but pushing to the limit by the Dapsters”

                      Don’t forget the evangelistas. They’re the more virulent strain.

                      re: “Is this A WARNING or A Threat?”

                      I am just as sick and tired (as the Malays are) about the constant bellyaching, victimhood posturing by the opposition non-Malay supporters that take every single reminder given them wrt the reality on the ground as threatening violence on them.

                      Lagi mereka mengada-ngada dan merengek, lagi meluat orang.

                    2. Re:Note for everyone Malaysia is truly the most moderate Muslim country in the world currently.” Actually Malaysia is a secular state with Islam as the official religion.

                      “I feel someone must remain in the position of non-alignment, so that he can look objectively at both parties and be the conscience of both—not the servant or master of either.”
                      -Martin Luther King Jr-

                    3. Re. Actually Malaysia is a secular state with Islam as the official religion.

                      Yupe you are right. I should have said in term of practicing and embracing the Islamic law and culture.

    2. You notice how Dr Mah’s racist comments was unreported in the Star or the alternative media ? Had this been an UMNO man commenting on the Chinese, he would have been crucified and they’ll be demanding Najib to step down.

      1. Obviously CS the double standard AC-CO has long been the practiced! The only Melayu in the CEC also AsalCina-ChineseOnly, business practice.

        Only when it comes to the rest of us, then they will ask us all to give them whatever that we are left with!

        A good Malaysian to them, is the one who kowtow to AC-CO mantra!

  7. Regardless of his stand against DAP, I don’t see Zahid as a good leader much less a minister. I would rather see him replaced. He’s an opportunist.

      1. i thought we were talking about Zahid… personally, I can’t recall any achievements by Zahid. And I can’t accept such uncouth behaviour and attitude from a Minister. Since the reformasi days, he’s been out of the radar. His political fortunes improved during Pak Lah’s tenure I think.

        well, LGE is already the “Great Leader”. LKS, better ask the Gelang Patah constituents :)

  8. In this day when simply being Malay amounts to being racist it’s great to have at least one guy with balls as a minister.

    Malaysian = Chinese
    Malay = Racist

    Sad.

  9. The whole Malaysian political system is race-based since day one. DAP’s raison d’etre is a socialist one. Being an opposition party they have no other targets but the ruling government, which happens to be a race-based one: UMNO-MCA-MIC-PBB-etc. You would not expect any less of them (DAP) as you would expect any less of DSZahid to demonize the cainis malaysians (malaysian chinese would imply a malaysian of chinese nationality just like african american, asian american, etc..). But for DSZ and this blog to be silent on bigger issues like 3000 ringgit clocks and other misadventures by the civil service and GLCs as reported by Outsyed and KijangMas at deminegara recently just shows that people just see what they want to see, and turn a blind eye to the others. How come KDN don’t take any action against these wrongdoers year in and out is a mystery.

    The cainis have no wish to become Malaynized despite the economic incentives because they can stand on their own and bar the evangelistas, owe it to their confucian heritage (read shuzheng). Take away the middle-eastern religion, arab aping, the anglophilic education and what have you got? The answer to this will tell you why the cainis don’t assimilate now when they almost did a few hundred years back.

    So much talk has been going on about a single stream/language schools that the state of BM in this country is still neglected by the very own people that is supposed to nurture and develop it. How many books have been translated into BM? You can read Dan Brown’s ‘Da Vinci Code’ in Bahasa Indonesia but not in BM, why is that? At least the cheras bengs’ and jinjang lians’ can read it in mandarin. How many technical manuals are in BM? Is it the cainis’ fault that DBP is not doing its job? And don’t even bring up Japan or Korea and their monolingual native languages; can you read The Catcher in the Rye in BM, is there a nusantara or melayu version of keiretsu and chaebol? Pardon the french, but why dafudge would the malays care if the cainis are all in SRJKs? just go ahead and make SKs the best they could like MRMSs and SBPs with their dedicated learning environment. Make all the good books available in BM. Oh wait, last time I checked reading isn’t such a big thing, except for maybe mastika or urtv or mangga, speaking of mangga ooh lala cover and pinups.. those were the days.

    putting the blame on the Others is just side-stepping the underlying issue, and we know why people do that. UMNO or no UMNO, Article 153, the royals and all the special positions ain’t going away.

    1. lol..a chinese supremist apologist and dare demand status quo with your SRJK and at the same time demand Malaysian Malaysia… truly bonkers hypocrite…. and spare me the chinese better than malay culture, take away your mat salleh name and your mat salleh slutty stinking clothes, you dun even have even an inch of your trivial mythical 5000 years culture on your surfboard banana body, which until last century were ruled by whites, opium addiction and defeated in wars by short Japanese which were also considered inferior by the imperial chinese… reasons why your sengkek ancestors came to the inferior Malay sultanates.

      And then all those 5000 years confusionism whatever was covered by the European communism, anglophilia….truly, pleas gawk more about china motherland more, Ill prepare the popcorn.

      You are one of those liberal cainis or melayu who in your spare time console yourself how stupid the melayus, how lazy the petronas malays to coverup your insecurity, the fact that the malays can even endure and progress despite not reading a catcher in the rye in BM must scaring the bejeebers out of your kind, go ahead, pretend the malays dont and cant read harry potter and Tolkien and Agatha Christie in either BM and English..

      The way you talk down BM, the peoples and national institutions just shows you are not malaysian, you continue to find excuses to be different from mainstream malaysians and malays. hence your opinions are detrimental and an insult to Malaysian aspiration.

      1. I smell the great stench of arrogance in you. It is amusing you accuse them of having names from the West when you also have names from the West, the Middle East, to be precise. Before you laugh at their ancestors for being ruled by Europeans and Japanese, remember that Malaya was also ruled by Europeans (Portugese, Dutch, English), Japanese, and also the Siamese…

        1. ‘and also the Siamese…’

          What Siamese? I don’t think you even know the difference between Siamese and Thais, so STFU!

          My maternal grandfather was a sam-sam, he speaks Siamese with his siblings. A lot of Malays in the north had Siamese bloodlines.

          What do you know?

        2. Dear Ac-Dc with the little ‘C’, only Malay Muslim have an arabic name because Prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h is of an arab descent and the Holy Quran is in arabic. If Prophet Abraham slave Hagar was a Chinese/Indian instead of an Egyptian, than Prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h. would be chinese or indian descent and Malay Muslim would have chinese or indian name like Bing Bong Chou/ Rama Guna. FYI my little ‘C’ brother, all those Western names which some of our chinese, indian and even malay friends use are actually Hebrew;

          Here I’ve translated some of Hebrew names to Arab.
          1) Aaron = Haron
          2) Gabriel = Jibrail
          3) David = Daud
          4) Abraham = Ibrahim
          5) John = Yahya
          6) Eve = Hawa

          “I feel someone must remain in the position of non-alignment, so that he can look objectively at both parties and be the conscience of both—not the servant or master of either.”
          -Martin Luther King Jr-

    2. ‘(read shuzheng)’

      This would have explained it all. The last time I checked, the Tanah Melayu was a vassal state to the China Maharaja…

  10. Dear Helen, I think the whole issue has lost its bearing as it appears to be a Malay against Chinese issue. I think nobody in their sane mind can deny the influence of the chinese in the private sector and the influence of the Malay in the government sector while the Indians are an everlasting convenient scapegoat.

    The issue here is not whether it is a Chinese or Malay faction for a political direction but whether responsibility and accountability can maintain its status quo for humanity at large with well defined rule of law. We Malaysians as usual continue to cry over spilled milk at arms length without actual participation in addressing the issue but the rhetoric of it. The fear and courage for power lies when it appears weak when one is strong and vice versa to sustain the politics of the day irrespective of the truth for the common folks. That pretty much sums up my analogy of this whole episode.

    1. Re. We Malaysians as usual continue to cry over spilled milk at arms length without actual participation in addressing the issue but the rhetoric of it.

      Exactly.

  11. Our Home Minister is the embodiment of ultra-ness, an attribute many readers from this blog proudly wear on their sleeves. Is anyone actually surprised Zahid’s X-tra ultraness won him new fans? Nay. It is especially predictable in view of the impending UMNO VP election where candidates by default are sort of required to flash their jantan-ness credentials to show they are man enough to stand up for the nice docile Malays, against the evil Chinese and gangster Indians. Oh, not forgetting the Christians, but then it is easier to just lump the evangelists and Chinese together to amplify their biadap-ness.

    Going through the usual rhetoric posted by Z’s supporters, it is evident he is revered for his hard stance against the biadap Chinese and the oppositions whom are regarded detrimental to the Malay Ketuanan. It is therefore fair to conclude Zahid is viewed as a race hero of some kind.

    People generally resort to hero-worship because they want justice, ethics and honor and somewhere along the line, because the system has failed them. The underdogs of society and the forsaken ones at the fringe are most likely the ones crying out for a hero. The Malays? Get outta here.

    Malay holds the highest legislative posts in the government, police and army. They are the majority race and are in-control of the financial aspects of the country through the GLCs. The current government in power is won by the party whom the ultra Malays professed their love for, so it is not plausible they are not happy with the new policies.

    So, what is the problem? Oh yes, the Chinese making noises now and then. The insignificant Chinese and others whom despite overwhelmingly voted against the BN, is still unable to wrest power.

    Is that all?

    In conclusion, the ultra Malays are looking for a hero to stand up to silence those voices of dissent from the non-Malays whom are not aligned with their party of choice. Nevermind criticism is part of the democratic process our country professed to practice. Nevermind there are more pressing economic and corruption issues at hand.

    Hell with it all. Hero will kautim.

    1. HH,

      No.

      “…to silence those voices…”

      “those voices” need to be told off that they cant play with fire and get away. Obviously, DAP is very racist and waging war against the malays.

      1. shamsul anuar

        DAP is a non-race based political party. It is currently on hard-sell mode trying to portray themselves as an all-embracing multi-racial political alternative to BN. The same hard sell strategy that sees them dispersing their elected representatives to mosques, buka puasa dinners and various goodwill sowing activities. Whether the Malays buy into their effort, that is a question for another day. The cold hard facts indicate they are out to woo the Muslims in full force. Accusations of DAP waging war against the Malays are baseless. Unless that is you are confusing UMNO with the Malays.

        Quote: ““those voices” need to be told off that they cant play with fire and get away.”

        That is the thing. Why the need to tell them off?

        Quote: “Will dissent be permitted? The answer to that question will determine whether the society is a free society or a fear society.”

        Cheers

        1. ‘Our Home Minister is the embodiment of ultra-ness, an attribute many readers from this blog proudly wear on their sleeves. Is anyone actually surprised Zahid’s X-tra ultraness won him new fans? Nay. It is especially predictable in view of the impending UMNO VP election where candidates by default are sort of required to flash their jantan-ness credentials to show they are man enough to stand up for the nice docile Malays, against the evil Chinese and gangster Indians. Oh, not forgetting the Christians, but then it is easier to just lump the evangelists and Chinese together to amplify their biadap-ness.’

          I see no complaints coming form you and your so called moderates kakis, when LKS&LGE screams CINA MADE SECOND CLASS by the Malays? Isn’t that ultra? Isn’t that the Cina trying to show their jantan-ness to stand up for the SECOND CLASS CINAS?

          ‘Going through the usual rhetoric posted by Z’s supporters, it is evident he is revered for his hard stance against the biadap Chinese and the oppositions whom are regarded detrimental to the Malay Ketuanan. It is therefore fair to conclude Zahid is viewed as a race hero of some kind.’

          Going through the usual rhetoric posted by CP’s supporters, it is also evident that CP the 10K Malayans butchers and war criminal is still being viewed by the KETUANAN CINA via KOMUNISME loving Cinas as a race hero of some kind! I don’t get to see you to complaint about that too, HH?

          ‘DAP is a non-race based political party.’

          Enough of the spin, HH. Go and sell that to the DAP members themselves!

          1. Islam1st

            Quote: “I see no complaints coming form you and your so called moderates kakis, when LKS&LGE screams CINA MADE SECOND CLASS by the Malays?…. “

            I wouldn’t go so far as to call this a complaint. More like an observation.

            Quote: “‘Going through the usual rhetoric posted by Z’s supporters, it is evident he is revered for his hard stance against the biadap Chinese and the …..”

            Again, just an observation.

            Quote: “Going through the usual rhetoric posted by CP’s supporters, it is also evident that CP the 10K Malayans butchers and war criminal is still being viewed by the KETUANAN CINA via KOMUNISME loving Cinas as a race hero of some kind! I don’t get to see you to complaint about that too, HH?”

            I don’t think of CP as some kind of hero though I do acknowledge he played a crucial role in our independence process. Getting that out of the way, it is rather absurd to berate and compare those who hold favourable viewpoints of CP with Z’s supporters. One group is reminiscing the memories of a dead fighter and the other, cheering their hero on to silence the voices of dissent and to go against the very spirit of democracy.

            Quote: “Enough of the spin, HH. Go and sell that to the DAP members themselves!”

            Not my words. I don’t spin and why the heck should I? It’s on the DAP website.

        2. You are certainly misguided. Whether DAP is open to Malays depends on whether they can accept Malay political branches. Almost all if not all branches are dominated by non Malays. How can this be? DAP will not allow Malays to be leaders. If really they are Malaysians, the branches and members must reflect the nations demographics. But because of Chinese power they retain the racist political structure.

          How can you say you’re Malaysian but not even allow Malay to be leaders. How can you say you’re malaysians when you deny Malay in your political structure. So don’t con us when you say Malaysian when you only fight for Chinese rights. If DAP is truly Malaysian first they would have not supported an education policy separating our children by race and deny children of other races to mix. Why is it mixing with Malays so bad? Why is it so wrong to have malay leaders? This is what fork tounge DAP racist party stand for.

          1. Ellese

            I don’t deny most of your points. Political parties are hardly the epitome of honesty and integrity. Of course DAP is not immune to hypocrisy. True, they are fork tongued and devious. DAP too plays the race card knowing full well the Chinese are their forte. Not unlike UMNO.

            The difference between UMNO and DAP is the fact UMNO can stand alone on Malay votes. DAP can’t. It is therefore in DAP’s interest to be realistic and resort to pitching the multi-racial liberalism and moderation path. Simply said, DAP needs to be nice to the Malays. So regardless BN or PR, the Malays will not be side-lined. Wait, if you are questioning the sincerity factor, then it is too high the bar. Even UMNO’s supporters keep one eye close with regards to the party’s ‘pledge’ to oversee Malay welfare. The elegant silence from UMNO’s supporters with regards to the frivolous spendings on the AG report is telling.

            Going back to DAP, I do have my respect for LKS but sadly, he is currently doing more harm to the party than good because voters no longer buy into the multi-racial lip service without concrete changes to show for. But then you know what they say about teaching old dog new tricks.

            Quote: “If DAP is truly Malaysian first they would have not supported an education policy separating our children by race and deny children of other races to mix.”

            Education is a subject I am rather clueless about, so I’ll leave it at that.

            Cheers

          2. Hello Ellese,

            Please take a look at UMNO, MCA, and MIC before commenting on others, ok? Ethnic based parties. Membership determined by skin colour.

        3. HH,

          Get real. DAP is a political party that will only tolerate Malays as ‘sampah sarap”.

          1. As I’ve replied to Ellese above, DAP needs the Malays. So in the spirit of true political hypocrisy, DAP will be nice to the Malays.

            Just don’t question if they are sincere. Sincerity is not something one expects from political entities. That is why Malays don’t question how ‘sincere’ UMNO is in their so-called pledge to help the bumis all these years either.

            1. I don’t think DAP needs the Malays. PAS & PKR does. DAP just needs to endear themselves to the Malays, or at least not hated by them too much :)

              1. RE. I don’t think DAP needs the Malays.

                DAP needs the Malays to get to Putrajaya. Currently they are stuck horizontally, meaning they can only increase the number of votes in their dominated constituencies but never number of seats outside that, without the Malay votes.

                UMNO is stuck vertically, as the percentage of Malays registered voters and turn out during election is much lower than that of the Chinese. UMNO needs more Malays turn out during election to secure more seats and improve popularity.

                There is talk or plan for auto-registration once one reach the age of 21 yo. With that in place the 50-50 chances odd will work in favor of UMNO/BN.

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