Kalimah Allah: Evangelista DAP menghasut di Sarawak

October 14, 2013 at 12:54 pm 40 comments

Adakah evangelista akan dibiarkan untuk terus menggunakan kalimah Allah dengan sewenang-wenangnya?

Evangelista tidak segan-silu untuk bermuka-muka dan memakai tipu muslihat dalam menjalankan kegiatan dakwah mereka. Sila baca, The City Harvest Church cover-up and how evangelistas operate.

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Pasti DAP akan bermain isu ‘Allah’ ini di kalangan pribumi Sarawak dan Sabah yang beragama Kristian.

DAP 3.0 yang penuh evangelista sekarang lagi kuat mempolitikkan agama berbanding PAS.

Juga, negera jiran pun sudah mengambil tindakan terhadap evangelis. Sila baca, Lee Kuan Yew on S’pore evangelistas: “you can have enormous trouble once religions clash”

Ong Kian Ming's stand on Allah

Pendirian Ong Kian Ming berhubung penggunaan ‘Allah’

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Pendapat Ong Kian Ming

Habis madu MCA-Gerakan, sepah dibuang

Ong Kian Ming ialah seorang konco Lim Guan Eng yang telah dipilih untuk bertanding kerusi Parlimen Serdang hanya 8 bulan selepas menyertai parti.

Ong sebelum itu pernah bekerja dengan think-tank MCA, Insap dan juga think-tank Gerakan, Sedar.

Spesi Iguana Eng beriya-iya mengucap “Insya Allah” sesuka hati mahupun tuhan ‘Allah’ mereka bersifat Triniti.

“Insya-Allah”

imokman @fendyhasni Insya-Allah

imokman@sybreon haha, Insya Allah

imokman @Haji_Tarbus Harap boleh, Insya-Allah

imokman@amiruddinfadzli kawasan Bangi

Jaguh hashtag #sahur

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hafiz@imokman no wonder, waited

imokman attaanuar sama2 berpuasa

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“Christian, kenapa?”

Ong Kian Ming (imokman) on Twitter 2013-07-12 10-08-49

Twitter - imokman- @AbdMalekHussin terima kasih, ... 2013-10-14 12-34-39

Abdul Malek Hussin ialah Ketua Hal-hal Parlimen kepada Anwar Ibrahim

imokman Bersahur di rumah

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Evangelista spesi Iguana Eng

Sebelum ini, banyak sudah evangelista DAP menghasut di Sarawak tatkala pilihanraya kecil Sibu, pilihanraya negeri Sarawak dan semasa PRU13 tidak berapa lama dahulu.

Sekarang DAP bergiat melanjutkan rancangan ‘Malaysian Dream’ mereka untuk merangkumi ‘Impian Sarawak’.

Tony Pua mengetuai anak-anak buah evangelisnya dalam melancarkan Impian Sarawak. Yeo Bee Yin, Adun Damansara Utama yang pertama kali dipilih, adalah bekas Pembantu Khas Tony Pua.

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Di Bumi Kenyalang untuk melancarkan projek ‘Impian Sarawak’

Kiang Ming and Bee Yin

Ong Kian Ming and Yeo Bee Yin orang baru DAP di bawah ketiak Guan Eng

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  • 1. Pakatan Puak Pembohong  |  October 14, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    You need 2 to tango. Think about it, would the evangelists be so daring without the tacit support of the Chinese community ? They are 2 of a kind.

    I can imagine that after this latest ruling by the court, the Chinese press, together with the opposition dominated English media, will go overdrive, saying how extreme the Malay dominated government is, how illiberal the government is and other arguments along that line.

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  • 2. malaysian  |  October 14, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    Most important thing is Muslim defeated the non Muslim and more importantly Malay defeated the Chinese. This is important for UMNO race based politic.

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    • 3. Helen Ang  |  October 14, 2013 at 2:05 pm

      You describe a zero sum game.

      Don’t forget that prior to GE13, Umno did “kongsi” with MCA even though the Chinese leaders and electorate may not have been entirely satisfied with how the pie was divvied up.

      The era of ‘kongsi’ is effectively over. From now on, it’s confrontation to the bitter end.

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      • 4. malaysian  |  October 14, 2013 at 2:37 pm

        “may not have been entirely satisfied with how the pie was divvied up.” The core of the problem is UMNO decide everything and is non negotiable. MCA have to just keep quiet when UMNO trying to be Malay hero in order to gain support. This is why Chinese turn away from BN.

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        • 5. Helen Ang  |  October 14, 2013 at 2:52 pm

          re: “The core of the problem is UMNO decide everything and is non negotiable.”

          Aiyah, Umno has 88 Parliament seats and MCA has 7 Parliament seats (6 of which are in Malay-majority areas). If Umno doesn’t decide, who does?

          In the 1999 general election, however, Umno won 72 Parliament seats and MCA, 28 seats. Plus 7 seats from Gerakan and 7 more from SUPP, both of which are Chinese-dominant parties. With that kind of balance, the Chinese had some say in the BN.

          MCA did not show even one iota that it was serious in fighting the DAP (which is the BN’s arch rival) during GE13.

          On the contrary, the MCA-controlled media campaigned for the DAP evangelistas!

          And some MCA division chairmen were suspended by the party disciplinary board for sabotaging their own party candidates — case in point, Serdang where the MCA division chairman and his deputy were found guilty, and DAP’s Ong Kian Ming walked away with the seat which in previous terms was held and successfully defended by the MCA big guns.

          The problem is the MCA itself.

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          • 6. malaysian  |  October 14, 2013 at 3:35 pm

            Race based politic is a zero sum game. If Malay/UMNO gain means non Malay parties will lose support and vice versa.

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            • 7. Helen Ang  |  October 14, 2013 at 3:41 pm

              Umno is willing to absorb every ethnicity (mamak, pribumi and Orang Asli/Asal, serani, Thai, Arab, Pakistani, Bosnian) into the Malay race. Except the Chinese and the Indians.

              The alternative to the BN’s race-based politics is the Pakatan’s religion politics. Look around you at the troubled countries of the world. See how many countries are having Muslim-Christian civil war, or intra-Muslim wars.

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              • 8. malaysian  |  October 14, 2013 at 3:53 pm

                You are wrong. This may be the initial principle but throughout the years, UMNO want the Malay to be seen as supreme race over the others.

                But again as I mentioned before, this is just the cover of the book. Race based politic is used to divide and rule. They want the communication between races limited to elites and leaders. This is why each community live peacefully WITHIN their own community without much interaction till the era of internet where the monopoly of communication channels is broken.

                This is why there is no intention to abolish vernacular school as these school is the best place to isolate the races. The elites (Malay and non Malay) continue to be abang adik and robbing Malaysian wealth of all races through corruption and cronyism. When these crooks are asked about their wealth, race based politic being used to provoke their blind supporter to fight each other in the name of race pride.

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                • 9. Helen Ang  |  October 14, 2013 at 3:57 pm

                  re: “UMNO want the Malay to be seen as supreme race over the others”

                  Can you please elaborate on what forms this race supremism takes?

                  re: “This is why each community live peacefully WITHIN their own community without much interaction …”

                  Well at least there used to be peace. Now it seems like we’re on war footing, no?

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                  • 10. AC-DC  |  October 14, 2013 at 9:01 pm

                    “Can you please elaborate on what forms this race supremism takes?”

                    Having your blinders on? Just take a look at the readers of your blog that you so love to defend and the far right blogs and websites you so love to quote.

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                    • 11. islam1st  |  October 14, 2013 at 11:59 pm

                      ‘Having your blinders on?’

                      And what about you? The ever moderate, we all need to emulate?

          • 12. shamshul anuar  |  October 17, 2013 at 10:14 am

            Helen,

            Precisely. UMNO won 88 seats from the 139 seats won by BN. Had UMNO have branches in Sarawak, we can safely say that 100 seats would have been won by UMNO.

            Naturally UMNO will be the “supremo”:. Nothing surprising about that. It is known as “law of human nature”. As for MCA, it is “melukut ditepi gantang”.

            Why? Because it let its media to “lean” towards DAP.

            IT IS HIGH TIME FOR UMNO to throw MCA out from BN. Obviously, MCA is “gunting dalam lipatan”.

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            • 13. Helen Ang  |  October 17, 2013 at 10:17 am

              re: “IT IS HIGH TIME FOR UMNO to throw MCA out from BN. Obviously, MCA is “gunting dalam lipatan”.

              I hope the perwakilan will bring up this matter at the PAU this weekend.

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    • 14. Anti Bebal  |  October 14, 2013 at 3:19 pm

      That is very racist comment from malaysian, people should not forget that in the Islamic ummah we do have Muslim brothers and sisters from the Chinese, the Indian and Sikh too. Most important we do have very VALID and logic reason of why we cannot agreed on the Catholic church intend to use kalimah Allah in their newly reinvented Malay Bible. Read on if you must know ….

      Due to the Christian understanding that the Biblical God in the Holy Bible have a SON, these concept no doubt will give the impression that God is “biologically” similar to man and animal which is a direct insult to the Creator by Islamic understanding. As such by allowing the Catholic church to deliberately using Allah name replacing the current Biblical iconic deity “names” such as GOD, FATHER and LORD will result a direct blaspheme towards Allah. This is the main REASON of why such action by your Catholic church cannot be officially allowed because ALLAH is clearly angered by your MONSTROUS intend.

      If you really revered Allah over people, then forget about JAKIM or the Catholic Church or the Malaysian Judicial Court because this is what Allah had decreed more than 1400 years ago when people are trying to attribute that Allah too can have a SON.

      You kalau marah you punya anak mungkin you pukul rotan pada meja atau dinding kasi bunyi kuat supaya anak jadi takot sama you bukan? But Allah shows His angers via HIS words in the Al Quran 19:88 – 19:92

      19:88 They say: “(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!” 19:89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous! 19:90 At it the skies are ready to burst, the earth to split asunder, and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin, 19:91 That they should invoke a son for (Allah) Most Gracious. 19:92 For it is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that He should beget a son.

      The universe seems to “explode” and the mountain macam mahu “meletop” like super volcanoes to describe how angry Allah is according to Sura Mariam. Simply because if we agreed “no problem the Church can do whatever they want with kalimah Allah”. We are really scared of the Creator (ALLAH) and not to any puny human being like you and me.

      By the way you may want to ask the Malaysian Catholic church priest why had they discontinued to use “In the Name of the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost”?

      Are those “Divine names” no longer relevant for the Malaysian Catholic church? Are you not interested to know WHY from your church priest? Or did your biblical Gospel writers forgot to write down the actual God name in the current Holy Bible that they (The Malaysian Catholic Church priest) saw it fit to refer from the Coptic Arabs instead? Or are THEY (MALAYSIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH) trying to give the impression that your biblical God had forgotten to mention HIS name there? We asked because these things only happened in Malaysia.

      What happen then to rest of the world Christian faith followers? Are they in the lost and only you people are CORRECT? Logically are you people doing some sort of experiments or reinventing a new religion? That is the kind of impression that you are giving to us the NON CHRISTIAN people of Malaysia.

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      • 15. malaysian  |  October 14, 2013 at 3:39 pm

        You maybe right but why not UMNO do it in a close door meeting with the Christian and convince them that they are actually at the wrong side and Muslim can be easily confused because of this word?

        Why UMNO want to make it a big issue that by defeating the desire of Christian of using this word? UMNO wants to be seen as Malay/ Muslim savior.

        They should convince the Christian and let the Christian announce and advise their followers that the correct world to be used should not be Allah. If you want to gain pride by destroying pride of other religion, the only outcome is confrontation.

        Now the truth is not important anymore. This is the proxy war between Muslim / Malay / UMNO vs Non Muslim / Non Malay / DAP.

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        • 16. malaysian  |  October 14, 2013 at 3:47 pm

          After all, Islam, Judaism and Christianity are Abrahamic religions which are the monotheistic faiths of Middle Eastern origins. The interpretation of God of each religions maybe different but all the major Abrahamic religions claim a direct lineage to Abraham. They are actually brother and sisters from the same God creation. I wonder what God will do He sees these brother and sister are killing each other everyday.

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        • 17. islam1st  |  October 15, 2013 at 12:16 am

          ‘You maybe right but why not UMNO do it in a close door meeting with the Christian and convince them that they are actually at the wrong side and Muslim can be easily confused because of this word?

          Why UMNO want to make it a big issue that by defeating the desire of Christian of using this word? UMNO wants to be seen as Malay/ Muslim savior.

          They should convince the Christian and let the Christian announce and advise their followers that the correct world to be used should not be Allah. If you want to gain pride by destroying pride of other religion, the only outcome is confrontation.

          Now the truth is not important anymore. This is the proxy war between Muslim / Malay / UMNO vs Non Muslim / Non Malay / DAP.’

          Go and ask Murphy Pakiam on why he had chose to file it at the High Court in the first place!

          The Muslims (as always) are merely reacting to his irresponsible deeds, certainly with zero concern on how the rest of the population would feel or react. And he surely not an UMNO member and definitely not a Perkasa member, so please keep your UMNO/Melayu purposely playing the racial card on the issue out of the picture!

          Unless you know for a fact that was what Murphy Pakiam had in mind when he did what he did!

          ‘After all, Islam, Judaism and Christianity are Abrahamic religions which are the monotheistic faiths of Middle Eastern origins.’

          Anti Bebal had answered it when he says ‘But Allah shows His angers via HIS words in the Al Quran 19:88 – 19:92

          19:88 They say: “(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!” 19:89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous! 19:90 At it the skies are ready to burst, the earth to split asunder, and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin, 19:91 That they should invoke a son for (Allah) Most Gracious. 19:92 For it is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that He should beget a son.’

          malaysian, kalau tak tahu lebih baik diam dan baca lagi, tak payah nak menegakkan benang yang basah!

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      • 18. AC-DC  |  October 15, 2013 at 6:54 pm

        “Due to the Christian understanding that the Biblical God in the Holy Bible have a SON, these concept no doubt will give the impression that God is “biologically” similar to man and animal which is a direct insult to the Creator by Islamic understanding”

        But that is Islamic understanding or doctrine. In this context, Allah is being used by the Bumiputera Christians in their literature for their use, for their own doctrine.

        I have read the judgement and it is interesting that the case of East Malaysia, Sabah and Sarawak is hardly mentioned at all (conveniently)?

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        • 19. islam1st  |  October 16, 2013 at 9:04 pm

          Sadly now we have got a legal precedent on the Allah banned. Sidang Injil Borneo now kelam kabut. Tu la sapa suruh ikut agenda jahat MP! Patutnya dulu depa biaq saja Herald buat sorang2. La ni sapa nak jawab?

          Sat for centuries, sat kata for years and now kata before Malaysia was founded, pastu quote bible indon yang ditulis orang portugis berdasarkan bahasa Indon dan Jawa. Tup2 claim kata dah lama….

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  • 20. hasannur  |  October 14, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Banyak jahat itu orang, musang berbulu ayam.

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  • 21. RINA  |  October 14, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    “Impian Sarawak”?

    Duk mengidam projek2 kayu balak dan minyak kat Sarawak itu le tiap malam asyik mimpi Sarawak!

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  • 22. Anti Bebal  |  October 14, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    Ahli politik DAP biasa la. We should be surprised if they have chosen to stay quite. We know that they needed to provoke and exploit this issues to smoke screen their CEC pending issues.

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  • 23. Anak Pasir Gudang  |  October 14, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    Hi Helen,

    You have correctly predicted the legal outcome of the Kalimah “Allah” case in last week’s posting. Predictable.

    You have also deduced the existence of the “shoot first” policy used on the alleged Indian criminals in Penang in a posting a few weeks back! The photos you shown, their hands were wrapped in paper-bags, probably to hide their defensive wounds…

    The Government is always so predictable in its moves that it project a bulldozing arrogance to the Indians & the non-Muslim Bumiputeras in Sarawak/Sabah these days.

    What if the 1.6mil Christian Sarawak/Sabah communities refused to obey the law that infringed their religious rights to practice, especially censoring use of words that’s in their worship for generations? Is the Government going to arrest and prosecute the whole community for their disobedience…

    How is the BN/UMNO going to win 2/3 or even win in the GE14 without the Indians and non-Muslim Sarawak/Sabah Bumiputeras?!

    ~ Anak Pasir Gudang

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    • 24. Helen Ang  |  October 14, 2013 at 3:09 pm

      re: “How is the BN/UMNO going to win 2/3 or even win in the GE14 without the Indians and non-Muslim Sarawak/Sabah Bumiputeras?!”

      That was what I was trying to tell the Umno hawks in my posting https://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/10/09/zahids-friends-should-fear-him-more-than-his-enemies-do/

      The way the Malay nationalists are going about it, the elected approach is to up the ante on the Malay and Islam (race and religion) cards, or in other words simply go Zahid-ballistic in the hope of cornering the Malay-Muslim market.

      I also cautioned that the DAP might well scrape through by collecting the minority support (including gays, greenies, etc) Obama-style especially if disenchanted Malays decide to boycott the election.

      If more Malays choose to sit on the fence and refuse to go out to won, then Umno rugi.

      To calm and quell the Chinese and Christian ground, Umno must decapitate the ringleaders, i.e. the DAP evangelistas. Ini tidak. Sebaliknya si Kitol dok pi lantik seekor Scissorati sebagai Setiausaha Akhbar. Habih lah.

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      • 25. shamshul anuar  |  October 14, 2013 at 4:24 pm

        Helen ang,

        The problem with UMNO is its refusal to act. That i believe is a crime itself.

        With 88 seats in parliament, UMNO behaves as it has only 38 seats. On the contrary DAP cries out loud as if it rules Malaysia.

        UMNO allows “fitnah bermaharajalela’. UMNO fails to act on one “astro” boy who lied in FB by saying there was massive blackout during vote counting on May 5.

        In short, Najib is defending people to stab UMNO relentlessly. To him that is “blue ocean” strategy. To other people in this planet including those from DAP, that is “strategy menempah maut”.

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        • 26. Helen Ang  |  October 14, 2013 at 4:31 pm

          re: “UMNO behaves as it has only 38 seats. On the contrary DAP cries out loud as if it rules Malaysia”

          DAP’s evangelistas are very, very aggressive. The PPTA’s Me-layu longlai are selamba, rileks aje dan cukup bersantai.

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          • 27. islam1st  |  October 15, 2013 at 12:19 am

            And si Kitol akan melaksanakan ‘liberal progresif’ (does he what he means or not?) nya untuk agenda UMNO.

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      • 28. AC-DC  |  October 14, 2013 at 9:16 pm

        And yet you continue to defend and rub shoulders with the hawks. They are willing to sideline the Indians, and now the non-Muslim Bumiputera in their delirious frenzy. To their detriment,

        “To calm and quell the Chinese and Christian ground, Umno must decapitate the ringleaders, i.e. the DAP evangelistas. Ini tidak. Sebaliknya si Kitol dok pi lantik seekor Scissorati sebagai Setiausaha Akhbar. Habih lah.”

        If you think opposition and dissent can simply be curtailed by arresting and detaining leaders, activists, and prominent personalities, you will be sadly mistaken.

        This is not the 1980s where everybody believed what New Straits Times, The Star, Utusan, and RTM says.

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        • 29. islam1st  |  October 15, 2013 at 12:25 am

          ‘They are willing to sideline the Indians, and now the non-Muslim Bumiputera in their delirious frenzy.’

          DAP is not yet a gomen, but yet we have Kampung Buah Pala, like what Helen had documented.

          And yet we have the so called Bumiputra in DAP made worth not more than ’50 sen’! So how?

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    • 30. veteran  |  October 14, 2013 at 3:42 pm

      …”..censoring use of words that’s in their worship for generations?”..wow

      I was educated in a Christian environment. Briefly,both my primary and secondary school education saw me and most of my peer group from the same village being taught christian religious stories or bible knowledge. And not even once “Allah” was used in the school’s chapel. “Lord” was used.

      In the Iban service “petara” or “Alah Tala” was used to refer to God. I couldn’t “vouch” for the Catholic though. The Methodist church, in the 60s thru 80s,did not use “Allah”. I don’t know since when “Allah” was introduced in the church. Whatever the usage was never an issue.

      Only God knows best.

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      • 31. malaysian  |  October 14, 2013 at 3:58 pm

        You are very right. The word Allah is used by East Malaysian and the UMNO make this issue as though ALL Christian in Malaysia want to use Allah for their God which is not. Now it is about pride of the religion, the winner will be seen as superior and hero of their religion. Allah is used more than 100 years in East Malaysian probably due to no available suitable word for translation by the priest from the West when preaching the religion among the East Malaysian.

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        • 32. islam1st  |  October 15, 2013 at 12:31 am

          Err malaysian, you tak faham bahasa ke?

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          • 33. Malaysian  |  October 15, 2013 at 8:06 am

            You are just UMNO ass licker. The east Malaysian use this word for so long and you never make noise till UMNO make it a big issue. You are not a true Muslim and just another blind UMNO supporter supporting any trash by UMNO

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            • 34. islam1st  |  October 15, 2013 at 10:24 am

              ‘You are not a true Muslim’

              You must be a better Muslim then. And one true Malaysian, we all need to emulate, right?

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    • 35. islam1st  |  October 15, 2013 at 12:35 am

      ‘What if the 1.6mil Christian Sarawak/Sabah communities refused to obey the law that infringed their religious rights to practice, especially censoring use of words that’s in their worship for generations?’

      It just goes to show that they, perhaps don’t respect the rest of their Muslim brethren, which I doubt in the first place, because all I see, time and again, since the issued was filed at the High Court by an Indian, is that the Non Bumis Christian Extremists are playing with fire now!

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      • 36. AC-DC  |  October 15, 2013 at 2:48 pm

        Really? James Masing, Bernard Dompok, Baru Bian, and many other Bumiputera have voiced their objection towards the government attempt to restrict it.

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        • 37. malaysian  |  October 15, 2013 at 4:07 pm

          http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/editorial/word-allah-is-not-exclusive-to-islam Only the moronic UMNO Muslim trying to make this an issue. They are making the non Muslim as their bogeyman for their UMNO politics. Even Muslim in middle east have no problem with this. Only UMNO is thinking their fellow Muslim are too stupid being confused by one word, how to hope than they can be a true Muslim.

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          • 38. jentayu  |  October 16, 2013 at 9:17 am

            no. we think you are stupid by fighting a losing battle. since when you know what a true muslim is? care to shed some light? do not equate muslim in middle east and here. it’s a different issue.

            i’m a muslim and i dont heck care what UMNO think. it’s just in my DNA as KJ prescribed, that this is something that is playing with my belief. not everything is politics la dumbo! at least you get a heyday here in malaysia and free to vent your anger to malay muslim by veiling to your bogeyman, UMNO.

            funny why you accuse UMNO of bogeying the racial and religious issue since practically every posting of yours have UMNO to be blamed of. i suggest you buy a mirror and repeat saying “i’m stupid” 100x in front of it.

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          • 39. islam1st  |  October 16, 2013 at 9:19 pm

            How else can we explain to these DAPster SUPERcyberbullie?

            Bahasa Melayu pun gagal. So macam mana nak tahu bahawa God means Tuhan dalam Bahasa Melayu. Kalau Melayu cakap pun tak mahu dengar, bodoh sombong. Macam mana tu?!

            Perlembagaan Persekutuan pun tak tahu. Tak mahu nak hormat. Kerakyatan yang dilindungi oleh Perlembagaan Persekutuan yang sama, nak, tapi yang lain-lain dalam Perlembagaan tak mahu nak honor. Macam mana tu?!

            Undang-Undang Malaysia pun tak mahu hormat. Dulu kata leave it to court. Lepas keputusan dah keluar, mula cakap pasal non legal matter, 10 point solution bagai, yang takdak legal standing. Dulu sebelum file kes ni kat court tak mahu fikir pasal repercussion kalau kes ni jadi legal precedent? Sekarang dah jadi benchmark ruling, mula lah nak gelabah. Macam mana tu?

            So bila dah tak faham BM, tak hormat PP dan tak mau ikut UUM, the next natural thing to do is to ANGKAT KAKI!!!

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  • 40. LOL  |  October 14, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    Helen,

    As far BN is concern, Christian Chinese voters are considered gone and done after PNS 2012 and there no turning back for them. The focus is on Christian Bumi in Sarawak from now onwards.

    Reply

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