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Gerakan bashing Perkasa but says nothing about DAP

Gerakan’s outgoing acting president Chang Ko Youn in the keynote address to his party national delegates conference today slammed Perkasa for undermining the relationship between the various races in the country.

Chang should hold up a mirror to his own party. Did 90 percent of them vote for the opposition, like the MCA members?

Again, the tiresome “We’re Malaysian” spiel

I’d like to address Chang’s speech as reported in FMT article ‘We are Malaysians, Gerakan tells Perkasa‘.

Chang was quoted as saying:

“It is most unfortunate that extremists like Perkasa gleefully challenge the non-Bumiputeras to either return to their ancestral lands or migrate to a third country. Let me make it clear, in front of all of you today, that we are all Malaysians and no Malaysian will ever have to leave this country simply because he does not agree with any policy or approach. We are all Malaysians, citizens of this nation, and no one can take that away from us.”

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Let me ask Chang — Seriously, in what ways are the Gerakan people “Malaysian”? How many of them have family serving in the armed forces who are prepared to die for the country?

Are the Gerakan supporters as Malaysian as the Dapsters who mock the police and soldiers all the time?

Only Perkasa extremist but DAP not?

FMT also reported Chang as urging the BN “to fight extremism internally” and singling out Perkasa as extremist right wingers.

It hasn’t steeped into Gerakan’s understanding apparently as yet that their party was wiped out in GE13 due to the extremism of the DAP’s politics of hate which Gerakan and MCA did nothing to check.

Chang further urged BN not to punish the 51% of voters who deserted the ruling coalition. And does he have any suggestions as to how BN can reward the 90% of the Chinese voters who wanted Umno dead?

Hanging on by the skin of BN’s teeth

Here’s the interesting bit. We’re told about the Gerakan postmortem on the election results.

Chang Ko Youn revealed that “an indepth analysis of BN’s victory in GE13 shows that BN only won the federal administration with a margin of 44 seats [BN 133 vs Pakatan 89] with a combined majority of 25, 968 votes”.

According to FMT, he said: “Hence, we should not take our victory in GE13 for granted because it was a lot closer than many of us realise because 12,985 Malaysians voting the other way could have changed the results”.

Well, pardon me but a correction is required here.

It was not “OUR victory” as in a BN-Umno-MCA-Gerakan-etc win.

It was predominantly Umno’s victory through the grace of God (as admitted by BN chairman Najib Razak in his Budget speech yesterday) and only because the Malay voters had silently swung back to the establishment. But even with 70 percent Malay backing, Ali Rustam still lost in Bukit Katil.

BN 86, Pakatan 80

So how did BN retain Putrajaya? Mostly due to the Sarawak and Sabah rural votes.

The two states combined contributed 47 of the BN’s total Parliament seats, out of which 14 are Umno Sabah’s.

This means that BN only holds 86 seats in the peninsula.

Pakatan won 9 Bornean seats (Sarawak 6 and Sabah 3) which leaves 80 of the Pakatan seats belonging to the peninsula.

Putting aside the Sabah-and-Sarawak factor, the peninsula Parliament seat count is BN 86, Pakatan 80.

If Pakatan were able to win just 3 more peninsular seats, it would have 83.

These 3 seats taken away from BN would leave the ruling party with 83.

Therefore a mere swing of 3 seats would leave BN and Pakatan tied at 83-83 in the semenanjung. It’s that close.

Gerakan whinging some more

“The component parties have borne the brunt of the urban rejection of BN resulting in significant losses for MCA, MIC, Gerakan, PPP, LDP and SUPP”, Chang the interim Gerakan acting president had said. (Gerakan has just elected Mah Siew Keong as their new party president.)

May I also add that Gerakan and MCA did absolutely nothing — eelek — to fight the DAP.

Not content with rolling over and playing dead so that the DAP can bermaharejalela, MCA division chairmen sabotaged their own party candidates to ensure a DAP win while the MCA media mouthpiece ran a sustained campaign to promote the DAP evangelista candidates.

MCA should be sacked forthwith.

As for Gerakan, there should be terms and conditions attached to the party’s continued stay in the BN. Can Gerakan answer this question first: Who does Gerakan think is its political enemy?

Instead of asking Umno to transform, can Gerakan please tell us how it intends to change the mind of the Chinese and Christian Indian voters?

Does the party have any programme to engage and counter its foe or is it still going to demand a free lunch from the BN?

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Congratulations to Tan Keng Liang for winning the Gerakan Youth post yesterday. He’s got the right BN spirit and lots of spunk.

Flashback: Keng Liang had beaten the DAP’s YB Insya Allah Ong Kian Ming in an online debate previously (see here)

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64 thoughts on “Gerakan bashing Perkasa but says nothing about DAP

    1. Malaysian,

      No. UMNO does not slander DAP. What it said about DAP is the truth.

      DAP incites the Chinese to hate Malays and everything about Malays. DAP encourages the chinese to falsely think that they alone can dictate others. DAP gambles the Chinese interests by pushing them to collide with the Malays. And the collision would be physical.

      There is no need for UMNO to “belasah” DAP. If that is the intention , then do tell me which other political parties that can stop it? And if that is the intention, UMNO had ample time to severely punish DAP.

      GERAKAN and MCA are DAPs within BN. Gerakan and MCA simply and intentionally let DAP to control the Chinese. Bereft of any intelligence, DAP resorts to the only way it knows: incites racial discord.

      And Chinese are willing to be pawned away in the name of Lim Dynasty. They simply believed that this time around (PRU13) UMNO will “tumbang”. And came May 6, they were in state of shock. Shock simply because UMNO still holds the fort.

      As For Gerakan’s call for UMNO to check PERKASSA is a manifestation of racism. Gerakan has been doing NOTHING to counter lies by DAP.

      Why? Because GERAKAN also hopes UMNO “tumbang”.

      Perhaps sultan of Mallaca’s way of treating those who love to slander and behave like “gergaji dua mata(treason) should be reapplied here.

      SULA.

      1. Aiya Shamsul, why waste your time with this “Malaysian Excel”, just let him be lor… I already gave him application to migrate to Ostalia last time ….

          1. Shamsul,

            These people still live in lalaland, here are some news flash for them:

            a. Chinese Australians want apology for discrimination

            “There are calls for the Federal Government to apologise to Chinese Australians for discrimination they suffered for well over a century from the gold rush days, when many Chinese first came to Australia.

            In the mid-1850s, tensions boiled over in a series of riots to try and drive out Chinese workers in and around Lambing Flats in New South Wales – an area renamed as Young in 1863.

            The ongoing distrust of Chinese and other migrants was behind the thinking of the Immigration Restriction Act of 1901 – the central plank of what is known as the White Australia Policy.

            Under it, some Chinese workers were welcomed as they provided cheap labour. Those who did make it were not allowed to bring their families over.”

            http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-06-30/chinese-australians-want-apology-for-discrimination/2778014

            b. Chinese tycoon feels unwelcome in Australia

            http://www.afr.com/p/national/chinese_tycoon_feels_unwelcome_in_Wq1vwoLuhPP4bWKPqDG68H

            c. Does Australia owe its Chinese an apology?

            “Chinese migrants endured more than a century of government-backed discrimination in Australia. Now, Chinese Australians are about to ask for a formal apology.

            Dennis O’Hoy’s grandfather arrived in the southern Australian goldfields from Hong Kong in 1860. He was forced to live in squalid settler camps, surrounded by poverty and racism.

            “Many committed suicide by hanging or drowning themselves,” says Mr O’Hoy, remembering his grandfather’s descriptions of the plight of Chinese men who could not cope.

            “It’s just tragic because they didn’t have money to get back to China and there was no-one to look after them in Australia.”

            Descendants of those 19th Century labourers and miners say it is time that Australia said sorry for the past. ”

            http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14276280

            1. And yet the Melayu that had taken their anak, and bela their anak as their own. Let them jadi setinggan kat tanah-tanah orang Melayu, Balik Pulau Malays had done this too, they will still look down at Malays and kutuk us kaw-kaw.

              What kind of people are they?

          2. Actually, I do business in Australia. Sentiment toward the Chinese is fairly positive. And no, I do not mix only with Australian Chinese or resident Chinese people in the cities.

            Now, the “species” (to use your words) which they are not keen on are Muslims. On one business trip, those with ‘Mohd’, ‘bin’ or ‘binti’ in our group were singled out and spent one to two hours interviewed by immigration officers. The rest of us were waved through.

            http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-02-23/nearly-half-of-australians-are-anti-muslim-study/1954194

            Anti-Muslim sentiment is quite thick among some Australians. Chain letters with anti-Muslim themes go around on Facebook and the internet. You might remember one, purportedly from John Howard, which some pro-UMNO bloggers merely plagiarised and replaced ‘Muslim’ with ‘Chinese’.

  1. Re. Chang further urged BN not to punish the 51% of voters who deserted the ruling coalition. And does he have any suggestions as to how BN can reward the 90% of the Chinese voters who wanted Umno dead?

    Isn’t too little too late to ask…

    You won’t admit you love me
    And so how am i ever to know
    You always tell me
    Perhaps perhaps perhaps
    A million times i’ve asked you
    And then
    I ask you over
    Again
    You only answer
    Perhaps perhaps perhaps
    If you can’t make your mind up
    We’ll never get started
    And i don’t wanna wind up
    Being parted
    Broken-hearted
    So if you really love me
    Say yes
    But if you don’t dear
    Confess
    And please don’t tell me
    Perhaps perhaps perhaps
    Perhaps perhaps perhaps
    If you can’t make your mind up
    We’ll never get started
    And i don’t wanna wind up
    Being parted
    Broken-hearted
    So if you really love me
    Say yes
    But if you don’t dear
    Confess
    And please don’t tell me
    Perhaps perhaps perhaps
    Perhaps perhaps perhaps
    Perhaps perhaps perhaps

    [YouTube]

      1. Go on now go
        Walk out the door
        Just turn around now
        ‘Cause you’re not welcome anymore
        Weren’t you the one who tried to break me with goodbye
        Did you think I’d crumble?
        Did you think I’d lay down and die?
        Oh no, not I

        UMNO will survive..

  2. Re. Gerakan mahu jawatan k’jaan untuk MP tunggalnya

    Gerakan – di akhir persidangan perwakilan kebangsaannya pada hujung minggu ini – telah mengesyorkan supaya ahli Parlimen tunggal parti itu, Liang Teck Meng (bawah, kiri) dilantik memegang jawatan dalam kerajaan.

    http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/245022

    My question is, are the Chinese started feeling the heat and getting desperate after the BUDGET?

      1. 1. GST

        Everybody will feel the pinch regardless of race but the Chinese businesses who are known to be evaded taxes for umpteen years will be affected the most. Once implemented they can no longer cheat, as all transactions will be auto reconciled.

        2. RPGT

        a. Most property investors and speculators will be affected, especially the Chinese. From now on they just can’t simply buy and sell property as they wishes with 30 tax within 3 years period. The 3 years cap is still too lenient the government should imposed a cap to 5 years instead. Please read the following:

        http://www.starproperty.my/index.php/articles/property-news/letter-rpgt-should-be-at-30-for-5-years/

        b. Property developers will be also greatly affected.

        Budget 2014: Property stocks may be hit by real property gains tax

        http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Business-News/2013/10/25/Property-stocks-may-be-hit-by-RPGT-Sentiment-likely-to-soften-in-the-nearterm-with-anticipated-hike.aspx

        You should ask who will benefit the most from this taxes actually.
        : D

        1. So this is the problem of people with money then let them worry. Poor Malay have non of such problem to worry. I support GST and RPGT actually.

  3. I have never heard or read anywhere that PERKASA had “gleefully challenge the non-Bumiputeras to either return to their ancestral lands or migrate to a third country”.

    I think PERKASA should sue for libel.
    If they say Perkasa is racist. I think DAP & Dong Zong is racist extremist.

    1. This one I agree with you but then this is because UMNO is a racist party blaming the weakness of Malay on everyone else especially Chinese. It is the UMNO Malay racist which force the Chinese to be racist and turn their support to DAP.

      1. “It is the UMNO Malay racist which force the Chinese to be racist and turn their support to DAP”.

        Force ahh at gun point or something like that. Like the Thais and Indonesian that forced your kind to change your name, force you to abandon your language and your Chinese school.

        Or like the Bruneians that offer your kind no citizenship. I am sure millions more like you will migrate to other countries ..go on we welcome that.

        1. Haha! Assimilation should have been done long time ago. You all missed the opportunity. UMNO want to play race card then it is inevitable the other races also want to play race card. Too bad, you all can’t force your way to assimilate the non Malay. Also this is no intention of UMNO to do so. If every Malaysian were to be assimilated then no more race based politic and UMNO would have died long time ago.

          1. Re. Haha! Assimilation should have been done long time ago. You all missed the opportunity.

            This one I totally agree with you, in fact if we could reverse the time we should take Negara Brunei Darul Salam’s stand i.e. Not giving the Chinese and Indian citizenship. The Sultan of Brunei is indeed a very wise person.

            Re. UMNO want to play race card then it is inevitable the other races also want to play race card. Too bad,

            DAP stands Democratic Action Party. Majority of their members are Chinese and this is still acceptable. In their 2012 CEC, they denied their Indian delegates to vote and in their party both farther and son are the taiko, and this is called DEMOCRATIC? That is a total BULLOCK…

            Re. If every Malaysian were to be assimilated then no more race based politic and UMNO would have died long time ago.

            Yes, UMNO would have dead long time ago and so does DAP, PAS etc.

            Not necessarily true, assimilation still does not give the Indonesian Chinese the same freedom and so do the Thai Chinese. Although they basically lost all their identity, they are still basically being discriminated in many ways especially the Indonesian Chinese. The Thai Chinese are better treated as they are Buddhist like majority of Thais.

  4. just say whatever you want to say..

    but to let u know, between perkasa and umno, i prefer perkasa.

    get it?

    1. Well, if the DAP think they can elevate terrorist Chin Peng to hero status… us normal Malays supporting or quietly rooting Perkasa is several quantum below the levels of their absolute admiration for Chin Peng…

      1. Wahai Malaysian yang arif lagi bijaksana, tunjukkanlah kami kebolehan Tuan/Puan berbahasa Malaysia.

      2. Perfect choice! Between MCA and DAP, i choose DAP too.

        Coz DAP being a racist chauvinist hypocrite party lead by their dictator lim-dynasty cec-corrupt nepo tokong leadership spanning over 40 years like no other chinese are capable than these two father and son. Their true colors are transparent.

        MCA is the Musang berbulu Ayam DAP, a malicious enemy within BN. MCA’s death will be Umno’s gain.

        Thank you for supporting DAP instead of MCA/Gerakan.

        Now, between DAP and PAS? Aaaah, sure lah any hypocrite chinese will choose Tokong Lim.

  5. cina tetap cina at the end of the day its all about their chinese chauvinistic mindset….. if not happy with malaysia just angkat kaki and FO. bahasa malaysia cannot speak, rukunnegara tak tahu cakap, negara ku tak tahu nyanyi ….what a joke you chinaman

  6. Helen Ang,

    Firstly, being a Malaysian does not mean that one has to be a member of the Malaysian Armed Forces nor the PDRM.

    Secondly, what is the percentahe of non-Malays in the Malaysian Armed Forces or PDRM anyway?

    If it is too low, perhaps, the government should be thinking of ways to encourage greater participation by non-Malays.

    To be honest, I don’t think BN would be too keen to have too many non-Malays in the Malaysian Armed Forces or PDRM.

    I also happen to know that there is a concerted campaign by certain quarters of the Malaysian Armed Forces and PDRM to ensure that non-Malays will not survive the training and give up.

    But then I am not telling you anything you don’t already know.

    I am more curious as to your suggestions on how YOU would encourage more non-Malays to join the Malaysian Armed Forces and PDRM.

    I look forward to any such article you may write.

    On the matter of MCA and Gerakan, there is no way they would be sacked from BN because they know where all the bodies are buried. UMNO is not going to risk the electoral backlash from the expose of all the corrupt dealings over their years in power.

    1. re: “Firstly, being a Malaysian does not mean that one has to be a member of the Malaysian Armed Forces nor the PDRM.”

      Okay. But being a Malaysian Firster, one should support our soldiers. To give a parallel analogy, the Firsters cheer for Lin Dan when he plays against Chong Wei.

      A number of Singapore’s top politicians have a military background. e.g. The PM Lee Hsien Loong held the rank of brigadier-general.

      It might be too much to ask for some members of Gerakan to have family in the services but comparatively when so many Malays and pribumi are in the army and police, then the racial gap is immense, especially when the Chinese often diss the police as “Umno dogs” and the soldiers as hopelessly incompetent.

      Not having relatives and friends in uniform makes the Chinese callous to the feelings of those who are in the services. It’s the same callousness exhibited in comments like “Send in the bulldozers now” when the Dapsters supported Lim Guan Eng against the villagers in the Kg Buah Pala standoff.

      re: “Secondly, what is the percentage of non-Malays in the Malaysian Armed Forces or PDRM anyway?”

      The Chinese don’t apply. When they do, they stand a better chance of being selected to attend the interview.

      re: “I am more curious as to your suggestions on how YOU would encourage more non-Malays to join the Malaysian Armed Forces and PDRM.”

      Look at the mindset informing the behaviour of some of the non-Malays today. They insult the YDP Agong and show the middle finger to his Permaisuri. They step on the PM’s head (photo). The badmouth the country at every turn and talk about emigration all the time.

      The line of separation between their hatred for Umno and the country is very blurred, and thin if any at all. You’re asking the impossible (i.e. programme to encourage Dapsters to lay down their lives for King and Country).

      It would be a miracle even to be able to persuade these to stop slandering the country like spreading the rumour about 40,000 Bangladeshi voters, blackouts at the polling stations, “dirtiest election ever”, much less expect them to join the army.

      1. 1. Peratusan Kaum Cina dalam ATM

        “Apa tidaknya bila dilihat daripada sejumlah lebih 100,000 anggota ATM sekarang penyertaan orang Cina hanya 0.2 peratus saja dalam tentera darat, 0.3 peratus (tentera laut) dan 0.4 peratus (tentera udara). Bagi kaum India pula peratus penyertaan mereka juga kecil, walaupun lebih sedikit daripada kaum Cina, iaitu 0.7 peratus dalam tentera darat, 1.1 peratus (tentera laut) dan 1.7 peratus (tentera udara).

        Dalam tempoh dua tahun lalu daripada beribu-ribu anggota baru diambil ada hanya 903 bukan Melayu, itu pun kebanyakan daripada mereka (795 orang) adalah dari Sabah dan Sarawak. Terdapat hanya 26 orang saja rakyat keturunan Cina yang menyertai ATM dalam tempoh itu dan 82 orang kaum India. Nampaknya penyertaan kaum Cina dalam ATM semakin berkurangan. ”

        http://www.bharian.com.my/articles/MencaripuncakurangkaumCinadalamATM/Article/

        2. Kaum Cina juga selalu menghina Angota Polis

        a. Video Lagu Tahun Baru Cina 2012 Namewee Hina Polis Malaysia

        http://www.melvister.com/2012/01/video-lagu-tahun-baru-cina-2012-namewee-hina-polis-malaysia.html

        b. BIADAP ! PENYOKONG DAP MENCARUT HINA POLIS DALAM FB GUAN ENG DAP !!! @PDRMsia

        http://novandri.blogspot.com/2013/09/biadap-penyokong-dap-mencarut-hina.html

        c. http://thekl-chronicle.blogspot.com/2013/08/lagi-bangsa-cina-hina-polis-pdrmsia.html

        Lagi Bangsa Cina Hina Polis @PDRMsia #KLChronicle

        ini hanya sebahagian saja banyak lagi yang telah dipadamkan…

        1. The Cina had been conditioned by their own komuniti not to favour the police and the army. And yet they still wants to blame UMNO and the Malays.

          What kind of people are they?

      2. An Unimportant Person | Oktober 26, 2013 at 10:04 pm

        ‘I also happen to know that there is a concerted campaign by certain quarters of the Malaysian Armed Forces and PDRM to ensure that non-Malays will not survive the training and give up.’

        Enough of the lies already. Now go and run for your dear Tokong. But hey, if you got the proof, remember that it was me, that urged and plead that you turn them to Hadi Ho fast!

        Thank you Helen, its seems that the POLISI is to get more and more non Malays to join the force. Subsidi Scheme anyone?

        1. Actually, I’ve always liked the comments by ‘An Unimportant Person’. Please don’t disparage him/her.

          1. I certainly don’t.

            Especially when he throws baseless and accusing lies so easily to put blame entirely on others and act like they totally have no ill will against the police and armed forces and all it takes to get more of them to enlist is more goodies for them.

            Shameless.
            Blaming and demanding the same time.

            1. What to do. Tun M was right when he was a bit hesitant with Jus Soli prior to our kemerdekaan.

              Now look at what kind of people are we having to share our lives with?!

              ‘Blaming and demanding the same time.’

              Something MCA, GELAKKAN and DAP have in common. Typical, eh?

      3. Helen,

        I have found this response as a result of some egging on by others :)

        Firstly, I do not agree with the disrespect shown to YDP Agung or his Permaisuri. To me, they represent Malaysia so I would demand respect for them by all Malaysians. Personally, I am not yet convinced of the republic argument.

        As for disrespect to Najib, that is a different matter altogether. That is within the realms of politics and is no different from what we have seen and heard of people urinating on Nik Aziz’s posters or curses hurled at Lim Kit Siang or the jibes made about Anwar Ibrahim.

        I think you nailed it when you say that for some opposition supporters, their hatred for UMNO have caused them to transfer their anger to YDP Agung and his Permaisuri.

        Equally sad is that these oppo supporters tend to blindly hate the Malays as well :(

        Having said that, the very same problem exist in UMNO, where hatred for DAP now also means hatred for the Chinese.

        Malaysians seem to be unable to separate politics from race or religion.

        Thank you very much for those Polis and Tenetra figures you provided and they are quite interesting. It does look like non-bumis are under represented in the Polis and Tentera.

        I disagree with you that it is impossible to increase participation by non-bumis in the Polis and Tentera.

        Perhaps, special intakes consisting only of non-bumis commanded by non-bumis may work. I dunno. I hope you understand that I have just made up that suggestion in the last 10 minutes writing this comment.

        Somehow, I don’t think the idea of such special intakes will be considered and I can almost hear the howls of protests which will greet this hare-brained idea of mine :)

        Anyway, I am glad I found this artcile again as I am now certain that I did not say there was a policy of the Polis and Tentera to not recruit non-bumis.

    2. Sorry lah friend… defending the country is not in their gene.. if they spot problem.. this kind will be the first to pack their bags.

      During the emergency.. bangsa apa yang sanggup berkorban jiwa dan raga.

    3. ‘To be honest, I don’t think BN would be too keen to have too many non-Malays in the Malaysian Armed Forces or PDRM.’

      Convenient isn’t it?!

      ‘I also happen to know that there is a concerted campaign by certain quarters of the Malaysian Armed Forces and PDRM to ensure that non-Malays will not survive the training and give up.’

      Wow, really? Seriously? You actually do have documented evidence to prove this? Please, I urge you, no I beg you to visit Hadi Ho and let him know about this, pleaseeee…BTW got link ah?

      ‘I am more curious as to your suggestions on how YOU would encourage more non-Malays to join the Malaysian Armed Forces and PDRM.’

      Haiya, the gaji plobelm la what else. You don’t know that meh? Sell pirated DVDs lagi untong wor!

  7. apa nak heran?…kan gerakan sama je dgn DAP..bezanya they soul their soul to BN.. dulu perarakan penyapu besar kat Kl waktu 13 mei dulu pun adalah angkara gerakan juga.. dia nak kondem melayu ke perkasa ke UMNO ke.. pi lantaklah.. GE lepas confirm semua ahli dia undi pr.. tpi BN masih boleh bertahan

  8. Yes,what for field Chinese candidates from MCA/Gerakan ? 97% Chinese ( even their own party members) don’t vote them, it only makes the Malays so pisses off they either don’t vote or vote PAS.

  9. Assimilation. . My foot… the first Chinese migrants to Malaya they can assimilate and adopt Malay customs.. the babas n nyonyas without changing their religion. The Malays got no problem with them and will respect them.

    The problems started with the later immigrants. They were big in numbers, live in their own cocoon and instead of trying to assimilate they try to impose their culture over here. The problem with the Chinese, whenever the feel they have the power, they will try to make them dominant, I think this is part of your DNA.

    It had happened before.. Bintang Tiga slaughter of the Malays, Lukut Massacre, Bau Massacre and many other such incidents in Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam and Indonesia. Please google these incidents in China History forum and hope you can appreciate the angle I am coming from.

    No, sir. The Malays did not impose restriction like what our neighbours did, not like what the Americans by putting up law such as Chinese Exclusion Act that will force you to live in ghetto and prevented you from breeding or prevented your kind from progressing.

    Instead the Malays over here welcome you, allow you to breed, allow your culture and religion to prosper and allow your kind to progress in their jobs.. Otherwise your kind will remain coolies over here.

    PAS at that time will label you kafirs and also label the racist party UMNO as kafir for working together with non Malays. That racist party that negotiate a deal that enable your kind to live over here and prosper.

    If your kind still piss off with the proposed 30% economic cake for the Malays, frankly I dont mind to give it up. My request for your kind, please also give up the citizenship. Get lost and countries down south and down under will welcome your kind. Go ahead then.

    1. Re. Instead the Malays over here welcome you, allow you to breed,

      This is a very interesting fact actually, in China they still kill baby girls in millions over the years. This country has inadvertently soften their barbaric culture and behavior.

      The same goes with culture, the Chinese are known as people who “Tidak Ada Adab Sopan and Buruk Laku”, again this country has inadvertently soften their shameful behavior.

      The Chinese Gomen has to published the following for their people in fact.

      China’s new guide to ‘civilised tourism’

      “Communist Party tourism chiefs have told Chinese globetrotters they must urgently cut back on limp hand-shakes, public displays of nose-picking, swimming pool-soiling and the discussion of pork in a desperate bid to improve the country’s overseas image.

      The stern but ultimately unenforceable edicts appeared in a 64-page “Guidebook for Civilised Tourism” that was issued on Tuesday to coincide with the start of a week-long public holiday commemorating the 1949 Communist take-over. ”

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/10348977/Chinas-new-guide-to-civilised-tourism.html

    2. ‘the first Chinese migrants to Malaya they can assimilate and adopt Malay customs.. the babas n nyonyas without changing their religion. The Malays got no problem with them and will respect them.’

      Now the BabaNyonya also had either become a Chinaman or Bananas. They have lost their BabaNyonya identity except for the Kebaya Nyonya, Kuih and Family Photos hanged high at family home.

      How sad.

      1. There is no reward for them to keep the Baba Nyonya identity and hence no reason for the maintenance of this subculture.

        You’re right. The Baba Nyonya are extinct today. The young generation have reverted to being Chinese.

        MCA founder Tan Cheng Lock was a Baba. The early years MCA-Umno experiment has failed.

        1. I still can’t accept the fact that a Baba Nyonya keturunan, a Bumiputra no less, can’t speak their very own mother tongue just like average Malaysians.

          1. There is no incentive to be a Baba Nyonya.

            Unlike the descendents of the Portuguese who can avail themselves of bumiputera privileges and the Siamese who are considered Bumiputera, the Baba Nyonya are not.

            Tian Chua is reputedly a Baba descendent whose family has been here hundreds of years.

            1. Some issues were brought years ago, about the Babas marrying ‘out’ and becoming more of a Chinese, than Babas thus certain people are saying that it is hard for the status quo ie Bumiputra status to stay.

              But they don’t say this about the ‘colourful’ serani families. I wonder why. I wonder who had wanted that to be gone in the first place.

              Its nice to know the opinions of the Babas anyway. But then again, like you have just said, maybe there are no more ‘real’ Babas around.

              Tian Chua speaks better BM than most Cina, by far better than most. But as a Baba, he is quite bad.

              Florence Tan is the right benchmark. Perhaps many in Melaka still survives. In Penang and Singapore maybe they have turn themselves into one Hannah of Y. Sadly.

              1. My view is that the serani and Siamese are looked at as not posing a threat to the Malay polity and hence the acceptance (in the granting of Bumiputera status) whereas there is always the Sino-Malay rivalry simmering.

                May 13 was a RACE riot but the Firsters want to rewrite and spin their own history by denying this.

                The purpose of the NEP was to economically uplift the Malays but the benchmark was always set against the Chinese, i.e. the numbers game for Malays to catch up with the Chinese (if there are xy Chinese engineers, there must be targetted the creation of yz Malay engineers, xy Chinese millionaires, then xy Malay millionaires).

                You get Dapsters spinning their Malayan Malaya delusion:

                “Ask any older ‘Pakcik’, ‘Sitapah’ or ‘Apek’, and you should not be surprised that race relations back then during the early days of this nation was just beautiful. Malaysians were generally more tolerant. They lived, laughed and played together as fellow Malaysians. Life was tough, but people understood the meaning of mutual respect.”

                http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/opinion/2013/10/25/mahathir-is-right-%E2%80%93-yeah-always-right/

                1. Helen,

                  “..ask any Pakcik,…”

                  Those were the days before DAP manages to poison the chinese mind.

                2. Yup, I have read the article few days ago taking swipes at Tun M. It seems that, a lot pf people, especially Dapsters, memang tak tahu berterima-kasih.

                  Pak Lah is better than Tun M?

                  With all due respect to Pak Lah, give me a break will ya!

            2. Helen;

              For hundreds of years the Babas and Nyonyas assimilated into the Malay culture and during that time there was no incentive given. It was a survival instinct. If you are minute minority , you have to adjust in order for you to survive and at that time no Malays will impose their culture to the non Malays and no non Malays were forced to adopt the Muslim religion too.

              However, things start to change with massive wave of Chinese migration. Their numbers become so big and they can pose a threat to the status quo. Slowly the Babas and Nyonya re adopted their old Chinese culture and drop their unique Babas and Nyonyas culture. In Kelantan, the Chinese over there up till now speak fluent Kelantanese, wear kain pelikat and sometime they also participate in local kenduri. Of course, they still remain a minute minority. Things will be different if Chinese become a significant minority in Kelantan.

              I think the Chinese in Malaysia owed a lot to the Babas and Nyonyas. Tun Tan Cheng Lock being a baba understand the Malay culture and it is easy for Tunku and Tun Tan Cheng Lock to negotiate a deal that become a good benchmark for inter racial relationship. Things may be different and difficult if the leader of MCA then was “Cina Bukit”, the like of Chua Soi Lek, Lee Kim Sai or Lim Kit Siang.

              What is perplexing me is the reasons the Babas/Nyonyas, the Chitties and the Portugis can accept some of the Malays traits and custom but not the religion even though some of them intermarry with Malay girls. But the Indians that landed in Penang can accept the religion and custom when they intermarry with the Malay girls. Any one can provide the rationales behind this phenomenon.

              1. Re. the Babas/Nyonyas, the Chitties and the Portugis can accept some of the Malays traits and custom but not the religion even though some of them intermarry with Malay girls.

                For the Muslims the answer is here:

                “Hidayah memang datang daripada Allah s.w.t seperti mana dalam firmanNya dalam surah Al Qashash ayat 56.

                “Sesungguhnya engkau (wahai Muhammad) tidak berkuasa memberi hidayah pertunjuk kepada sesiapa yang engkau kasihi (supaya ia menerima Islam), tetapi Allah jualah yang berkuasa memberi hidayah pertunjuk kepada sesiapa yang dikehendakkiNya (menurut undang-undang peraturanNya) dan Dialah jua yang lebih mengetahui akan orang-orang yang (ada persediaan untuk) mendapat hidayah pertunjuk (kepada memeluk Islam).”

                Tetapi seorang islam yang kita hendaklah berusaha mendapatkannya.

                Hidayah ialah orang yang mendapat petunjuk daripada Allah s.w.t.Daripada seorang kufur menjadi seorang yang beriman dan Taat pada perintah Allah taala. Hidayah itu merupakan petunjuk daripada Allah kepada hambanya. Namun untuk mendapatkannya seorang hamba itu haruslah berusaha untuk mendapatkannya serta yakin akan pertolongan dari Allah. Antara usaha yang boleh dilakukan ialah meningkatkan amalan serta tidak lupa sentiasa memohon doa agar dikurniakan petunjuk dalam kehidupan di dunia yang sementara ini.

                Tanda Orang Beriman
                – Jiwa cenderung kepada Akhirat.
                – Benci kepada Maksiat.
                – Sentiasa bersedia menghadapi kematian.

                Tanda Orang Kufur
                – Jiwa cenderung kepada duniawi.
                – Suka kepada maksiat.
                – Takut dengan Kematian.

                Orang yang mendapat Hidayah Allah
                Contoh :
                Saidina Umar Al Khattab – Seorang pemuda yang sangat bengis dan benci akan agama Islam yang di bawa oleh Rasulullah s.a.w.Saidina Umar seorang yang hebat berperang dan berlawan pada zaman itu.Beliau adalah pahlawan gagah kaum Quraisy.Sehingga terjadi suatu peristiwa apabila beliau terdengar adiknya membaca ayat suci Al Quran,beliau memukul adiknya sehingga berdarah di muka.Lalu saidina Umar meneyesal akan perbuatannya itu.Lalu meminta adiknya membaca sekali lagi ayat suci Al Quran dan Saidina Umar menangis lalu berjumpa dengan Rasulullah.Saidina Umar terus memeluk agama Islam dan dengan beraninya beliau mengisytiharkan dirinya memeluk ISLAM dihadapan pahlawan2 kafir Quraisy yang lain.

                Orang tidak mendapat Hidayah
                Contoh :
                Abu Talib – Abu Talib merupakan bapa saudara kepada Rasulullah s.a.w.Abu Talib begitu sayang dan kasih kepada Muhammad s.a.w tetapi beliau sendiri tidak memeluk islam.Sehinggakan saat kematian beliau,Nabi s.a.w mengajar beliau mengucap,beliau tetap dengan pendirian dan teguh bersama dengan tuhan nenek moyangnya.Selepas kematian Abu Talib,Nabi s.a.w bersabda “demi Allah ,aku meminta ampun daripada Allah selagi tidak di larang”.Lalu turunnya wahyu kepada Nabi s.a.w Firman Allah yang bermaksud:
                “Tidaklah dibenarkan bagi Nabi dan orang-orang yang beriman, meminta ampun bagi orang-orang musyrik sekalipun orang itu kaum kerabat sendiri, sesudah nyata bagi mereka bahwa orang-orang Musyrik itu adalah ahli neraka.”
                (at taubah ayat : 113)

                Kesan Individu Yang Mendapat Hidayah Allah s.w.t
                – Peningkatan dalam mengerjakan Ibadat.
                – Meninggalkan segala larangan Allah.
                – Gembira dan tenang menjalankan perintah Allah.
                – Takut kepada Maksiat.
                – Benci kepada perkara mungkar.

                *Iman ada pasang dan surut seperti air di lautan. Oleh sebab itu,sentiasa perbanyakkan ibadat dan sentiasa bertasbih kepada Allah supaya iman tidak turun. Sesungguhnya Hidayah semua datang daripada Allah s.w.t dan kita perlu mencarinya dengan cara solat, zikir dan baca al Quran.
                Semoga kisah Saidina Umar menjadi iktibar dan semangat untuk kita berjihad & berjuang di jalan Allah. Daripada seorang yang kufur dan kafir sehinggalah menjadi seorang khalifah Islam yang di segani oleh kawan dan lawan..

                http://origins-truth.blogspot.com/2013/04/hidayah.html

              2. ‘But the Indians that landed in Penang can accept the religion and custom when they intermarry with the Malay girls. Any one can provide the rationales behind this phenomenon.’

                This is not correct, since the Indian migrants are already Muslims themselves. My Tamil speaking mamak kawan, stills balik kampung in Arasarkulam, every single year.

                Mamak in Penang is a very vaque term. Vague because, now it is a very diverse term. It is never exclusively a Tamil Muslim term.

                A Tamil Muslim is a mamak. An Arab peranakan is also a mamak (more so in Penang). A pakistani, bengali etc are also being lumped into the ‘mamak’ groupings.

  10. Hai dah macam gila talak Gerakan ni semenjak hilang banyak kerusi selepas PRU13. Opsss pembetulan gila kuasa :))

    :p sarah

    1. Bukan Gerakan sarah, tapi Party GELAKKAN! Sebut betul-betul, PARTI GELAKKAN!

      What a joke, sudah kalah tuluk lagi mau jadi munteli!

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