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Guan Eng’s purported desire to visit

P. Uthayakumar will be spending his 52nd birthday in the Kajang prison today.

Uthaya is still in the death row cell.

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There is no mattress for him to sleep on, he insists.

What Uthaya is saying contradicts a statement earlier made by the Prisons Department read out on 24 Oct 2013 in Parliament by Deputy Home Minister Wan Junaidi Tuanku Jaafar who asserted that the solitary confinement room does have mattress and blanket.

Uthaya’s open letter to the prime minister was read out by DAP Puchong MP Gobind Singh Deo during the debate in the Dewan Rakyat at the same Parliamentary sitting.

In his letter to Najib Razak, Uthaya had complained that he is denied “a toothbrush, toothpaste, bathing and washing soap, towel, blanket, pillow and even the ½ inch foam mattress”.

The Prisons Department however refuted Uthaya’s allegations as well as assured Parliament that their staff had never treated him harshly and that there was “no abuse”.

Prisons Dept confirms Uthaya held in solitary as punishment - Malaysiakini 2013-11-06 22-07-15
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/244838

About that chair (1)

Uthaya says he is not given warm water to wash down his medicine. (He’s diabetic and also has a prolapsed disk which gives him back pain).

As I’ve written before, Uthaya wants a plastic chair so that he can sit. Sitting will help alleviate the painful condition of his back.

Oh well, maybe he can get one (i.e. a plastic chair) for Christmas if we can successfully smuggle out a Dear Santa letter from him to be mailed to the North Pole.

Oooops, I forgot. Unlike Jaclyn Victor (tweet below), Uthaya is not a Christian. So no present from Santa. Sorry, tough luck.

Twitter - headsink- Bila Jacklyn Victor dihujani ... 2013-11-04 12-07-44

About that chair (2)

‘Prisons Dept denies Uthaya not given proper treatment’ (NST, 29 July 2013)

The New Straits Times July 29 article reported Deputy Director of Prison Policy Supri Hashim as saying Uthaya should not be given special treatment compared to the other prisoners as he was a common convict and not “a political prisoner or political detainee as described by a certain party”.

The “certain party” whom the Deputy Director is referring to is Lim Guan Eng (see TMI below).

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/dap-wants-government-to-provide-medical-treatment-to-imprisoned-hindraf-lea
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/dap-wants-government-to-provide-medical-treatment-to-imprisoned-hindraf-lea

About that chair (3)

“The treatment is given to a particular convict based on the advice and recommendation of the medical officer treating the convict and not based on the personal requirement of the convict concerned,” the NST quoted Deputy Director of Prison Policy Supri Hashim as saying in response to Guan Eng in the July 21 TMI report (above).

Again the claim by the prison authorities is in contradiction to the personal testimony of Uthaya who says the prison doctor(s) had agreed to refer him to the hospital.

But then again, prisoners can’t be choosers, right?

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Pakatan rode the Makkal Sakti wave to their 2008 victory and after that, sat on the Indians. See also related issue, ‘PSM bullied and backstabbed’.

About that chair (4)

To bring our discussion back to the business of the chair. No, not one resembling Guan Eng’s above. Just an ordinary plastic one will do.

Uthaya is being held in a 10′ x 10′ cell with five other prisoners. And just like how the MCA and Gerakan are two bald men fighting over a comb, you can try to imagine Six Men and One Chair packed in that cramped space.

The death row cell is for hardcore criminals.

The environment inside is tense.

Uthaya fears that he is being deliberately put in harm’s way by being placed there.

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Toothbrush is a lethal weapon, what more a chair

According to Uthaya, the prison regulation toothbrush is a finger cap and not the typical one that we use.

There must a security reason as to why prisoners are not issued normal toothbrushes. (Err, he can poke his fellow inmate in the eye with it?)

In the FMT article titled ‘Dark Deepavali for me‘ (1 Nov 2013), Uthaya described an attack perpetrated on one Paramasivam, occurring on Oct 25, which resulted in the 45-year-old prisoner receiving five stitches on his head, four on his eyelid and four on his nose.

Prison is a violent place where prisoners can get knifed. Or beaten, sometimes by the guards as punishment and sometimes by other inmates.

The environment inside is understandably tense particularly among those facing the death penalty or serving a life sentence.

Uthaya fears that he is being deliberately put in harm’s way through his placement in the death row cell.

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Dark Deepavali for Uthaya

A safer cell can perhaps accommodate that darn chair?

Yahoo! News had reported on 11 Sept 2013 in an article headlined ‘Guan Eng wants to meet jailed Uthayakumar‘:

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“In a move that should gain him some sympathy from the Indian Malaysian community, DAP leader Lim Guan Eng said he is trying hard to meet imprisoned Hindraf de facto leader P. Uthayakumar.

However, Lim, denied his motive was political and said he would appeal to the home minister since his request to meet with Uthayakumar was turned down by Prison Department director-general Zulkifli Omar.

‘As an ex-convict myself, I know the needs that are not met and I plan to see Uthayakumar as a humanitarian gesture,’ Lim told reporters at the DAP headquarters today.

This would including helping to meet Uthayakumar’s medical needs, he said.

Lim presented reporters with copies of letters he had written to the Prison Department and Home Minister Ahmad Zahid Hamidi in his official capacity as Penang chief minister. […]

Lim, who himself was once jailed for violation of the Printing Presses and Publications Act, said he sympathises with Uthayakumar.”

<UNQUOTE>

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Between Najib Nambikei and the ‘sympathetic’ Guan Eng

Guan Eng’s stint in the very same Kajang prison, as everyone and his neighbour’s cat in Malaysia knows, still remains a cause celebre especially among Dapsters who never tire of reminding you that their DAP hero went to jail for the sake of a Malay girl.

(Please pause and reflect on what Uthaya went to jail for.)

And since Guan Eng is so sympathetic, and plus he told so many reporters that he’s so very keen to see Uthaya in order to offer help with meeting Uthaya’s medical needs, how about the party sec-gen — as a “humanitarian gesture” — lobby for that plastic chair to be placed in a safer cell?

(Prisoner Uthaya can then be relocated along with his eagerly hoped-for-chair to that same safe cell instead of sitting in a death row cell.)

You really have to wonder why it is that Uthaya who didn’t steal anything, didn’t rob anyone, didn’t maim or kill anybody is being put in a death row cell.

In any case, happy 52nd birthday to the prisoner currently in ‘Little India’ (Kajang prison is populated predominantly by Indians).

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77 thoughts on “Guan Eng’s purported desire to visit

  1. During the Japs occupation my late grandpapa was locked in a kandanag kambing and not allowed out for weeks, caught for possession of a small radio. Berak kencing sleep eat all there wan. So when we hear these kind of grouses, make us laugh only la. Kalo zaman British Empire dulu ini Aney pasti dah kena banished and shipped off to one deserted island. Apa dia punya bini ingat suami dia ni SIAPA?

    Indians are prone to suicide. They should have him clothed only in disposable pampers or banana leaves as any kind of cloth too can be considered lethal weapon.

    Plastic chairs? Can easily make 50 or more sharp objects – very2 dangerous.

    1. re: “During the Japs occupation my late grandpapa was locked in a kandang kambing”

      Why are you comparing lock-up under Umno rule in 2013 with lock-up during the Japanese occupation?

      re: “So when we hear these kind of grouses, make us laugh only la.”

      Can you personally live without toothpaste for a week?

      re: “Kalo zaman British Empire dulu ini Aney pasti dah kena banished and shipped off to one deserted island.”

      That is why we call the pemerintahan British zaman penjajahan.

      re: “Apa dia punya bini ingat suami dia ni SIAPA?”

      Freedom fighter.

      re: “Indians are prone to suicide. They should have him clothed only in disposable pampers or banana leaves as any kind of cloth too can be considered lethal weapon.”

      Yes, in this country they are. The statistics say so. And this fact should be on the conscience of the majority Malaysians because what we are as a country is how we treat our most vulnerable ethnic groups.

      re: “Plastic chairs? Can easily make 50 or more sharp objects – very2 dangerous.”

      The chair is an inanimate object. It is only dangerous if people want to use it dangerously. Ashtrays and frying pans can also be dangerous in the hands of irate wives.

      Uthaya should be moved to a safer cell because he’s in prison on what the authorities deem sedition rather than for the crime of physically hurting anyone.

      1. Re. Yes, in this country they are. The statistics say so.

        Not just in this country. It is everywhere in the world. I believe, it is due to the fact that in Hinduism there is a concept of Samsara or circle of life, where the Hindu believe one will die and be reincarnated over and over again until one reach bodhisatta something equivalent to pure state of life and nirvana. In the process of Samsara, one is believed to be reincarnated in any form of lives or being e.g. dog, cat, mouse etc. depending on one previous deed in the previous life.

        These are some examples:

        https://www.google.com/#psj=1&q=indian+are+prone+to+suicide

        https://www.google.com/#psj=1&q=indian+suicide+rate

        That is why you can see that some have qualm of sacrificing themselves such as the case where a man burned himself to protest the temple demolition in Selangor before.

        http://www.beritaterkini.my/hindraf-arak-poster-lelaki-india-terbakar-ke-rumah-anwar

        Re. The chair is an inanimate object

        Any form of inanimate moveable object is considered dangerous in prison environment. You have to understand that the prison administration has had long enough experiences plus knowledge sharing from other prison around the world to know this.

        He may not be the aggressor in cell but his inmates may turn to be one with the said object. Some of them are very creative as well such as this:

        http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/9-regular-objects-turned-into-insane-prison-weapons/

        Re. Uthaya should be moved to a safer cell

        There is no safer cell in prison environment. I think the one that he is in is where maximum security and 24-7 surveillance are provided for.

        As it is now, the prisons all over Malaysia are considered over crowded.

        Penjara di M’sia sesak kerana kurang alternatif lain

        http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/219049

        While I sympathize with Uthaya, the prison administration has had similar experience before such as this. [YouTube]

        1. Re: “That is why you can see that some have qualm of sacrificing themselves such as the case where a man burned himself to protest the temple demolition in Selangor before.”

          You’re describing suicide through despair for which we’ve seen some tragic cases such as Seetha who drank weedkiller after her younger brother was shot dead by police. The dismal social condition of the Indians in Malaysia contributes largely to this trend even though culture and religion play a part as you’ve correctly pointed out.

          In countries where Indians are a successful minority group (e.g. Singapore), you do not hear of this as being such an ethnic disproportionate issue.

          Re: “He may not be the aggressor in cell but his inmates may turn to be one with the said object.”

          I concur with you on this. Therefore if the chair can be given to him, then it cannot be under circumstances where he is sharing a cell with 5 death row inmates.

          re: “Uthaya should be moved to a safer cell. / There is no safer cell in prison environment. I think the one that he is in is where maximum security and 24-7 surveillance are provided for.”

          Prison issues are another matter which I’ve not researched on. However just to stick to Uthaya’s case:

          He has been transferred to the death row cell as a punishment (the Prisons Department admitted as much in their statement read to Parliament). The inmates whom he’s sharing a cell with are hardened and hardcore criminals who are being imprisoned for violent crimes. It is vindictive of the prison authorities to do this (or in Uthaya’s words “deliberately putting him in harm’s way”).

          The general public, particularly the oppo-supporting Indian community, see this as being carried out on the instruction of Umno. Whether true or not, the negative perception is there that it is Umno (not the individual PD officers or wardens) that is punishing Uthaya for political reasons.

          So Umno is again being blamed by DAP opportunists such as LGE.

          1. Spare a thought for the man. Pray for him. He is essentially on his own.

            Where are the so called champions of human rights ? If the opposition are really sincere, fight for this man and his community.

            If you ask me, I would say that fighting for this man actually lends you moral authority and wins you the people’s support. But as always, the opposition is silent on this.

            1. re: “He is essentially on his own.”

              Yes, he’s in there on his own. Berat mata memandang, lagi berat bahu yang memikul.

              Another 2 years under such appalling if not dangerous circumstances is difficult to contemplate.

              1. What I m about to say may not sound like music to people’s ears.

                I hope the government takes good care of this man. Provide him with a decent living condition. Make sure he gets through this whole ordeal.

                If something happens to him while he’s in prison, God helps the government.

                You know what ?

                If something really happens to him, something really bad, it will make the Teoh Beng Hock case look like a walk in the park and you can expect the downtrodden amongst the Indian community to rise up and dwarfs anything you have seen. It will be bigger than the Hindraf protest of 2007 and all those Bersih rallies.

                1. re: “it will make the Teoh Beng Hock case look like a walk in the park and you can expect the downtrodden amongst the Indian community to rise up”

                  Correct. The poor Indians are more emotional than the middle-class Chinese who pushed the ‘Justice for Beng Hock’ movement, and Uthaya’s stature dwarfs TBH’s

                  re: “and dwarfs anything you have seen. It will be bigger than the Hindraf protest of 2007 and all those Bersih rallies.”

                  Correct again since the relationship between the Najib administration and Hindraf appears to be strained.

                  Mistreatment of Uthaya is fodder for Pakatan in the run-up to GE14 or else why do you think LGE carried out his little publicity stunt.

                  Political capital as well just like how the DAP milked Teoh Beng Hock’s death for what it was worth. Was TBH a factor in the Chinese tsunami? You bet!

                  1. Why do you think that he is in death row cell?

                    This is where maximum security and surveillance 24-7 are provided for, to ensure that he won’t pull a “stunt” to make thing worst.

                    Why don’t we all right a petition for his “house arrest” then. Can we rest assure that something equally suspicious and dangerous can’t take place as well?

                    1. Putting him in the company of 5 death row inmates who are murderers and armed robbers locked up within a 10′ x 10′ dark cell is not risk minimizing. It is risk maximizing, esp when Uthaya says that the night wardens do not hold the key immediately on them.

                      Futhermore, there are no indications that he will pull any kind of ‘stunt’.

                      He wants a chair, soap and toothpaste, potable water to drink (not unboiled tap water), and a plate to eat from (not “the same water dipper used to wash my backside is used to drink my kanji” – see http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/opinion/2013/11/01/dark-deepavali-for-me/, or in other words, Uthaya is claiming that his food is not given on a plate but has to be taken using their cedok thingy.

                      And his wife wants his back to be treated at hospital. She cries when she see him. She cries when she gives her press conferences.

                      Uthaya’s mother is 70 years old and needs a wheelchair to walk long distances and has to travel from Seremban to see him. The government is putting his family to grief.

                    2. “Ketua Pengarah Jabatan Penjara, Datuk Zulkifli Omar berkata, sehingga 28 September lalu, terdapat seramai 36,000 banduan di 39 penjara, pusat tahanan dan perlindungan di Malaysia.”

                      http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y=2009&dt=1007&pub=Utusan_Malaysia&sec=Dalam_Negeri&pg=dn_28.htm

                      That was in 2009 with 36,000 inmates and I think it should be more now. I am pretty to sure that there a lot more severe of similar existing cases that don’t get into the news.

                      Where do you draw the line than? Just because he is Uttayakumar?

                      Prison is not a 5-star hotel, not even an government hospital where people get certain kind of treatment. Everything is regimented and there is no preference given from to the other.

                      Uthaya is not a DUNGU that doesn’t know how to or will not manipulate the system and media to his advantage. Everyone of us out here can speculate his situation in there but the prison authorities know their job better.

                    3. re: “Just because he is Uttayakumar?”

                      Yes. Because like CheDebt mentioned upthread, his crime was to have embarrassed the Umno gomen.

                      The other prisoners are in jail for other types of crime like burglary, robbery or assault and murder.

                    4. Re. his crime was to have embarrassed the Umno gomen.

                      While that is true to certain extend, his action has resulted in business along Jalan Ampang got affected, tourist missed their flights home because the road was closed since they couldn’t get airport. If the police force were careful that day, lives might have be lost.

                      In any other country he would have long gone from this earth. On that note, look what happen to their people in Sri Lanka not long ago.

                      My point is why should he be treated differently with any other prisoners in the same cell. It is going to be case, I want that, I also want that, bla…bla… bla…

                    5. re: “My point is why should he be treated differently with any other prisoners in the same cell.”

                      It’s a death row cell. The logic of it (from the name) is that the prisoners there are awaiting death sentences whereas Uthaya has another 2 years to go on his jail time.

                      Putting Uthaya in that cell located beside the hanging chamber together with prisoners who have committed very serious crimes is like putting a Standard Two boy in a Form Three class.

                      As I’ve mentioned earlier, the Prison Department themselves – in the statement read out by the Deputy Home Minister to Parliament – admitted that Uthaya was transferred to the death row cell as a form of punishment.

                    6. Re. the Deputy Home Minister to Parliament – admitted that Uthaya was transferred to the death row cell as a form of punishment.

                      So you expect the prison authority to treat much better than any other inmates? A punishment is a punishment regardless who you are, the different he is Uthaya and his “plight” got its way out in the news. As I say many others may have similar or worst situation than that of his.

                    7. re: “many others may have similar or worst situation than that of his”

                      That may be so but they’re not political prisoners. The Prisons Dept is held responsible for what happens to them but Umno will be held responsible for what happens to Uthaya.

                    8. Re. The Prisons Dept is held responsible for what happens to them but Umno will be held responsible for what happens to Uthaya.

                      Here we go again, SEMUA SALAH UMNO.

          2. Re, You’re describing suicide through despair’….

            Suicide has become the community “let out” in general world wide, but for you to say for this to be a very peculiar of Malaysia’s experience is rather unfair.

            My apology to all the Indian followers of this blog. The Indian has a very violence tendency in their “DNA” as evidence in various hideous practices and crimes that are still happening in India e.g. Dowry Death, Baby Girl killing, Honor Killing (refers to the Indian Muslims in India), etc. I have commented about this in respond to TEMMENGONG in other entry.

            Admittedly this country has not been totally fair to the community, Najib has admitted the same as well prior to PRU13 and apologized to the Indian.

            My question is what has the INDIAN done in return to make good of the olive branch offered by Najib, other than keep running down the country, GOMEN, BN, UMNO and Malay in pursuit of their community HAPPINESS.

            I have said this before that they need to change or modify their behavior (as you put it). All this negative vibes bring nothing good to them. MAKIN LAMA ORANG PUN MAKIN MELUAT tenguk sikap dia orang.

            Re. In countries where Indians are a successful minority group (e.g. Singapore), you do not hear of this as being such an ethnic disproportionate issue.

            News flash, in Singapore news like this don’t published widely. Singapore in fact has the highest suicide rate. The same case of all sort of petty crimes that happen daily that don’t get into the news, to protect the City State clean Image.

            Re. It is vindictive of the prison authorities to do this (or in Uthaya’s words “deliberately putting him in harm’s way”).

            Uthaya must be such a “SAINT” or an “ANGEL” and it is so unfair for the prison authorities to be vindictive.

            Re. The general public, particularly the oppo-supporting Indian community, see this as being carried out on the instruction of Umno. Whether true or not…

            Haven’t we all agreed that apa pun salah UMNO, dia orang semua SUCI BERSIH BAK SALJU… there is nothing new about this.

            Malas nak komen banyak pasal orang India ni Helen. You know why they say “Indian makes a GOOD LAWYER”

            1. re: “Singapore in fact has the highest suicide rate.”

              The stresses of metropolitan living, especially in a city state that developed as rapidly as S’pore. That’s why I said “ethnic disproportionate” same as the Aborigines in Australia are disproportionately in jail.

                1. Many successful Indians in S’pore lah.

                  Tharman Shanmugaratnam, currently Singapore’s Deputy Prime Minister.

                  K Shanmugam – the present Minister of Law and Minister for Foreign Affairs.

                  Two former presidents: Devan Nair and more recently (retired 2011) S.R. Nathan.

                  The renowned Rajaratnam School of International Studies (RSIS) at Nanyang Technological University is named after the island republic’s former and famous Foreign Minister.

                  S. Jayakumar held the portfolios of Minister for National Security, Minister of Law, Labour, Home Affairs and Foreign Affairs.

                    1. The Indian minority are the third group in size in Singapore as they similarly are in Malaysia.

                      For the same level of achievement as Singapore Indians, Malaysia should be having an MIC man in Muhyiddin’s seat

                      Also MIC as Finance Minister

                      A Hindraf guy as Minister for Foreign Affairs

                      A PPP man as Minister for Law

                      And PSM’s Dr Jeya (can what, as the party is not in Pakatan) — Minister for the Environment and Water Resources

                      Singapore also has Mr S.Iswaran as holding concurrent posts as “Minister, Prime Minister’s Office and Second Minister for Home Affairs and Second Minister for Trade and Industry”

                    1. (1) The businessman based in Singapore who allegedly conned the Pentagon is an Indian

                      (2) The good, homegrown Singaporean Indians rise up to assume distinguished positions such as Deputy Prime Minister

                      (3) The imported Indians, like the brain drain you cited, they get from Malaysia and bringing shame to both S’pore and M’sia worldwide as the news made international headlines

                      (4) The field of con-sultancy is getting too crowded in Malaysia after the boost the industry received through the Najib incentives and that’s why the con-sultancy talents have to migrate, like this guy in the news who Talent Teleported south to the Little Red Dot.

            2. Re: ‘The Indian has a very violence tendency in their “DNA”…”

              Merriam-Webster defines the word ‘amok’ as:

              1. in a wild or uncontrolled manner

              2. in a murderously frenzied state

              3. in a violently raging manner

              4. in an undisciplined, uncontrolled, or faulty manner

              5. a murderous frenzy that has traditionally been regarded as occurring especially in Malaysian culture

              Now, we all know which segment of Malaysian culture the word originated from, don’t we?

              It certainly did not originate from Indian ‘tendencies’ despite your clever deflection.

              1. I have to agree with you.

                The Malays top the list on that one!

                LOL, I’m sorry, but for you to say ‘The Indian has a very violence tendency in their “DNA”…is just wrong.

                DNAs of ours are pretty diverse. And if anyone ever did, it is the Malays. Thanks to Islam, we are what we are today.

                But the Amok tendency is there…

                ‘Malaysia – An Orang Asli�man was attacked by a wild tiger but lived to tell the tale thanks to his wife.’

                http://dailyscene.com/wife-fights-tiger-off-husband-with-wooden-spoon/

                1. Re. DNAs of ours are pretty diverse. And if anyone ever did, it is the Malays.

                  1. 10 reasons why India has a sexual violence problem

                  The case of a 23-year-old medical student who died Saturday after a brutal gang rape on a bus in New Delhi has seemed to snap India to attention about its endemic sexual violence problem. Hundreds of Indians poured into the streets of New Delhi to mourn the young woman, and police announced that the six men arrested in connection with the attack had been charged with murder.

                  http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/29/india-rape-victim-dies-sexual-violence-proble/

                  The list can go on and on…

                  Care to give the list for Malay Islam1st?

                  1. Alhamdullilah we had Islam to thank for, don’t we? Amok is of our origin. They had the word, ‘mala’ for bad not for nothing!

                    Perhaps you might want to read on our kesatria heritage. We don’t place keris and tengkolok for suka-suka, do we?

                1. 1. Muzaffarnagar: Tales of death and despair in India’s riot-hit town

                  Nearly 50 people died in the Hindu-Muslim clashes which erupted on 7 September in India’s town of Muzaffarnagar. The riots have been described as the worst in India in a decade. Tens of thousands of people fled their homes in the violence. The BBC Hindi’s Avinash Dutt Garg visited the affected region

                  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-24172537

  2. I’ve suffered from a prolapsed disc before. It is the mother of all pain. Even childbirth does not come close because a prolapsed disc usually means that the disc, once out of its place from between the vertebral column will usually head for the spinal cord and compress it. In my case, the disc became dessicated after prolapse and almost severed my spinal cord (the main “cable” and center of all sensation, linking the brain to organs and extremities which explains the insane pain).

    Paralysis was imminent. The pain drove me up the wall.
    There was no sleep or respite for days and weeks. Suicide was a real option until the prolapsed disc was removed by surgery and the spinal column propped up and stabilised with titanium screws and bars in a procedure called “posterior spinal instrumentation and fusion” (or something like that).

    Even in the comfort of my home and in the company of my family, the suffering made me contemplate suicide. Imagine what is going through Uthayakumar‘s mind now with pain comparable to being continuously electrocuted in an electric chair (sic) via the spinal cord while being held in atrociously inhuman conditions created expressly to torture him mentally and physically.

    The powers that be in UMNO and the whole Malay controlled government apparatchik had better ship the poor bugger out to hospital for treatment and/or surgery before he loses his mind and kills himself (or is killed). Then again, what’s another Indian “suicide” or “death” in detention, especially when it’s the egocentric and insecure Ketuanan at stake?

    Sedition, my ass.

    I’d like to see how Najib faces the international human rights community (or Amanpour again) if Uthayakumar’s condition deteriorates due to neglect and deliberate maltreatment.

    Lim Guan Eng should for once put his opportunistic tendencies aside. If he’s really concerned about Uthayakumar, there’s no need to see him in ‘a humanitarian gesture’ (another Malaysian Firster PR exercise). He should instead go head on against Putrajaya on this – just like he did for Anwar and Teoh Beng Hock.

    No prizes for guessing why the double standards when it comes to Uthayakumar.

    1. Thanks for your concern and making us realise the severity and gravity of Uthaya’s medical condition.

  3. Purported visit ? This is just another piece of propaganda. After the Allah controversy, he needs a new issue to incite the people, this time to incite Indians. That’s how hate politics operates.

    After inciting Christians and Chinese, its the Indians’ turn. Who’s next ? Malays, maybe with help from Pas. Its a question of timing and he sure knows when to come out and provoke people.

    1. re: “Purported visit”

      Lim Guan Eng did not visit. However, during his press conference he showed reporters copies of letters he had written to the Prisons Department asking to do so. Permission was denied him by the authorities.

      Not sure how the procedure is with VVIP requests. Wonder how the Prisons Department would have reacted if it had been say Khalid Ibrahim who asked.

  4. Sedition is a very grave crime la Helen. Not properly contained it could lead to chaos.. bloodshed.. loss of life of the innocent citizens… ruin a nation. Nak repair keadaan tak mudah owh. They the worse of the worst of criminals. Tak kira apa sekali pun bangsa, these people are real pengkianat Negara.

    Freedom fighter? Whose freedom? What freedom? Free to roam 24/7 under Malaysian skies, do whatever one pleases, still no freedom owh? What freedom are you all talking about? So how did Mainland China treat these including students during the Tiananmen Square Massacre?

    If one need to prop up prison facilities, then all criminals should be given similar attention, why only to this person?

    1. re: “Sedition is a very grave crime la Helen.”

      Malaysia has its own definition of sedition. The maximum penalty for sedition according to our Penal Code is 3 years imprisonment.

      Uthaya is being punished with 4 years, double jeopardy as he’s being jailed twice for the same crime. Earlier 1-and-1/2 years under ISA and now, the 2-and-1/2 year sentence he’s been handed to serve in the Kajang prison.

      re: “Not properly contained it could lead to chaos.. bloodshed.. loss of life of the innocent citizens… ruin a nation.”

      Uthaya had already been punished and released from Kamunting for what the authorities deemed sedition. What we take issue with is the selective prosecution. Perkasa has a ceiling high stack of police reports against their leaders but no action taken.

      Perkasa’s behaviour (but personally I fault Isma more) could similarly lead to chaos.. bloodshed.. loss of life of the innocent citizens… ruin a nation — most definitely the Dapsters would agree with this assertion.

      re: “They the worse of the worst of criminals.”

      Don’t be surprised if I agree with you that the pemfitnah are the worst criminals. I do not mind if the white collar ‘criminals’ colluding with such blogs as Stop the Lies are punished. Umno can curb the Scissorati but throwing out the MCA but instead their Minister appoints them Press Secretary.

      re: “So how did Mainland China treat these including students during the Tiananmen Square Massacre?”

      If you’re suggesting that we benchmark the way we rule Malaysia against Beijing’s standards, might as well awal-awal lagi kita serah saja negara kepada Chin Peng untuk ditadbir.

      re: “If one need to prop up prison facilities, then all criminals should be given similar attention, why only to this person?”

      I’ve already admitted to LOL that I do not research prison issues but to give Uthaya credit where it is due, he has taken up cases pro bono for prison detainees.

      He won a compensation case for Suzana Mohamad Aris, whose husband, Mohamad Anuar Sharip, allegedly was beaten to death while in police custody in 1999. –Human rights report 2010, US State Dept. See also Harakah, June 14, 2000.

      Uthaya’s very first High Court case involved a coconut trader Ho Kwai See who died in police custody in August 2003. – Asian Human Rights Commission report 2004.

      Much earlier, in 1994, Uthaya defended Abdul Wahap bin Lakmit Hamzah in another case to do with police. So if you’re talking about activism for prison reform, Uthaya has the street cred.

      1. ‘Perkasa has a ceiling high stack of police reports against their leaders but no action taken.’

        And so many other NGOs too, but nobody’s complaining.

              1. Haiya itu mana adil leh, Dong Zong sama Hua Zong sudah lama made seditious statement after statement.

                By their standards, with the newly formed Perkasa and Isma, nothing will happens to the latter.

  5. Penjara bukan tempat utk berbulan madu. Ianya tempat utk pesalah menginsafi diri yg mereka yg di luar sana beruntung mengecapi nikmat kebebasan. Paling sesuai utk “pejuang” sepertinya. Moga dia terus tabah menikmati kehidupan percuma yg disediakan oleh pembayar cukai.

    1. re: “Moga dia terus tabah menikmati kehidupan percuma yg disediakan oleh pembayar cukai.”

      Tak percuma lah. Uthaya mengadu bahawa 1kg gula dijual kepada banduan di penjara Kajang pada harga yang lebih mahal berbanding harga pasaran meskipun gula merupakan barangan yang dikawal harganya oleh kerajaan.

        1. Tapi gula adalah barang kawalan di samping penjara itu sebuah agensi kerajaan bagi tujuan menguruskan pelaksanaan hukuman banduan dan bukannya tempat untuk membuat untung. Malah kedai runcit pun tidak menjual gula atas daripada harga kawalan.

          1. Re. Tapi gula adalah barang kawalan di samping penjara itu sebuah agensi kerajaan bagi tujuan menguruskan pelaksanaan hukuman banduan dan bukannya tempat untuk membuat untung.

            It doesn’t apply to him alone, it applies to every inmate in there.

            1. Uthaya is diabetic. He’s not the one buying the sugar.

              He’s raising awareness of what’s going on inside behind the prison walls and barbed wire that affects the poor people (who are the prisoners).

              1. Prison is not Disneyland, it is designed physically and “mentally” as a reform center. Beyond that prison in Malaysia has provided the inmates more than that including training, education and even job e.g. craft, garments, F&B, Saloon etc.

                I know an inmate whose brother is my friend and I think by now he has completed his SPM and pursuing his diploma in IT. These are some of the examples:

                1. Saloon and Spa, Kajang Prison

                http://iniblogizzati.blogspot.com/2010/11/spa-saloon-penjara-kajang-best.html

                2. Galeri Produk Penjara

                http://jpmportal.prison.gov.my/tempahan/

                3. Tempahan Baju Raya [YouTube]

                4. Enam banduan ikuti pengajian MBA di OUM

                http://www.astroawani.com/news/show/enam-banduan-ikuti-pengajian-mba-di-oum-7286

                There are many more if you google. It is not fair for people to keep dishing the prison authorities for doing their job when others around the world have a lot severe system and environment.

                1. re: “Prison is not Disneyland”

                  You and I are not in prison. So I propose that we approach this discussion with an open mind, i.e. that we’re both speaking with sincerity to the best of our knowledge but without any first-hand experience ourselves.

                  re: “it is designed physically and ‘mentally’ as a reform center”

                  What you say might be true about the prisons in Norway or Sweden. But over here, just to take Uthaya’s case, he’s being mentally tortured by being put in a cell beside the hanging chamber where he can see the prison authorities uruskan mayat of the condemned prisoners who have just been hanged.

                  re: “Beyond that prison in Malaysia has provided the inmates more than that including training, education and even job e.g. craft, garments, F&B, Saloon etc.”

                  Garments: According to Uthaya, in Kajang prison, the inmates wear orange uniform and they have only satu pasang. If you want to wash and dry your baju, then you will have to be shirtless while waiting for your prison uniform to dry. (Don’t know the situation wrt female inmates though.)

                  Quote: “My sole shirt and pants remain unwashed (even with plain water) for days, as it will take days to dry with the very small only one feet x 1½ feet ventilation grille.”

                  See, http://www.asiasentinel.com/politics/ngo-leader-malaysia-alleges-prison-torture/

                  re: “I know an inmate whose brother is my friend and I think by now he has completed his SPM and pursuing his diploma in IT.”

                  Uthaya alleges that in prison, the same racial discrimination happens.

                  re: “Galeri Produk Penjara”, “Tempahan Baju Raya”

                  Yes, I’m aware, e.g. the female inmates make kuih. The prison authorities then sell these products. Not sure who pockets the profits but knowing the usual ketirisan in the gomen sector …

                  re: “There are many more if you google. It is not fair for people to keep dishing the prison authorities for doing their job when others around the world have a lot severe system and environment.”

                  Where else in the world are the prisoners made to eat their meals (kanji that has been put inside) from a gayung (pencedok/dipper)?

                  Do you still remember the brouhaha created by Teresa Kok over the female suspect who was made to do the ketuk-ketampi dalam keadaan berbogel (‘nude squat’ incident)?

                  Quote: “I was horrified when prisoners were made to strip naked, bend down, open up, and show their anus for the warden to see if they have hidden drugs in there… and then sit up and down repeatedly, and cough at the same time to see if any drugs fall off their anus.” See, http://my.news.yahoo.com/letter-prison-uthaya-tells-nazi-style-bullying-062052790.html

                  1. Re. You and I are not in prison, So I propose that we approach this discussion with an open mind

                    Have you actually sat back, read and reflected on your own comment?

                    Re. Not sure who pockets the profits but knowing the usual ketirisan in the gomen sector …

                    Haven’t we all agreed and it has been caste in stone, that UMNO is corrupt.

                    Re. Uthaya alleges that in prison, the same racial discrimination happens.

                    I didn’t even tell you what ethnicity is my friend’s brother is currently in prison.

                    Re. Where else in the world are the prisoners made to eat their meals (kanji that has been put inside) from a gayung (pencedok/dipper)?

                    Have you actually seen that?

                    This is written by someone who has been there.

                    Kenangan di Penjara Kajang

                    http://www.blogigo.co.uk/pengalamanku/kenangan-di-penjara-kajang-15/68/

                    Bangkok Hilton [YouTube], [YouTube]

                    Put it this way, they complain when they are outside and they complain when they are inside.

                    Re. Do you still remember the brouhaha created by Teresa Kok over the female suspect who was made to do the ketuk-ketampi dalam keadaan berbogel (‘nude squat’ incident)?

                    They do all sort things, nothing surprise me. Again they have been in “the business” for a long time to understand and having the experience how to manage it.

                    1. Re. the writer is not an Indian Hindu, is he?

                      He was giving his general observation and I don’t think there are separate set of meal for Malay, Chinese and Indian. Don’t just jump into conclusion and accept one party account and disregard the rest.

                      If any, I have been consistent on my point of view where, all through out where, I do acknowledge the harsh reality endured by inmates since that is part and parcel of being inmates, but to make exception of one party over another, it is just not my style.

                      I have said it time and again that I do empathize with the plight of Indian community here in Malaysia, and in your blog, it goes as far back as my first argument with Conrad. You can also trace back all my related comment on the Indian community, unless provoked unnecessarily, I will try to be diplomatic as much as possible.

                      Wrt to my argument with Conrad, gangsterism, the relevant of caste system and direction of SJKT are among three issues that I raised, which he in return argued that it was only the “MYTH” about the Indian community in Malaysia. Soon after that the shooting of Indian gangsters by the police force emerged, followed by the discussion on “I am not Indian Actually” (bits and pieces in various entry), and finally the RM100 million budget for Indian Education. My understanding of the Indian community is still not that comprehensive but my reading about their community plight and direction has always been and almost right most of the time.

                      I have written about this before, that the Indians have to start moving forward from now on. Najib has admitted that BN has made mistake and apologized for that. He has made good of his promise during the recent budget, and the education grant is the right start. If they keep running down the GOMEN, I am sorry to say that sooner or later they are going to go back square one.

                      I am sure there are many silent Indian followers in your blog. But what have they done to contribute? Not even a single sentence from them, at least we can understand them better. The only who has the ball is “shadow banker”, but even he didn’t praise his own kind if you still remember.

                      So adakah ini masih semua salah UMNO/BN/Melayu? Pagi, Petang, Siang, Malam asyik nak menyalak menyalahkan GOMEN. When is it going to end then?

                      It is time for them to speak out and do the needful and here is one good platform to do that. Followers like Temenggong, CheDebt, Anak Pasir Gudang, Penang Dude, Anak Datuk Senu and few others should contribute immensely in the discussion ( As from their tone and comment I assume that they are Indian by ethnicity. I had guessed the same about Conrad and asked point blank which he finally admitted)

                      Every time the Indian news get highlighted, it is almost always on the negative tone and attract negative vibes. Uthayakumar case is the latest. While the title clearly “menempelak DAP’, all through your comments and in his defense, you have inadvertently blaming and running down the GOMEN. I have no issue with your stance and opinion, but that has also indirectly “menambahkan kebencian kaum India pada GOMEN dan bukan pada DAP”.

                      Is that what you are trying to achieve?

                    2. re: “He was giving his general observation and I don’t think there are separate set of meal for Malay, Chinese and Indian.”

                      I wouldn’t know but anyway, the following is Uthaya’s complaint: He said that the Malay inmates were given Nasi Briyani as a treat during the recent Hari Rayas but during Deepavali, the Indian prisoners were not provided any specially cooked meal for the occasion except some kind of Indian soup.

                      re: “the harsh reality endured by inmates since that is part and parcel of being inmates, but to make exception of one party over another, it is just not my style”

                      I would agree with you that all the inmates regardless of skin colour are treated harshly (with the exception of some ‘special’ prisoners) but the point is, if you will remember, Bukit Aman CID made a statement that 71 percent of gangsters are Indians.

                      Stemming from this, for such a small minority (7.3% according to 2010 census), the Indians are disproportionately in jail. Thus we can escape from ethnicity being an issue wrt to the prison population.

                      re: “So adakah ini masih semua salah UMNO/BN/Melayu? Pagi, Petang, Siang, Malam asyik nak menyalak menyalahkan GOMEN. When is it going to end then?”

                      Personally speaking, I do wish that the Indians would retreat from this all-out blaming the gomen, take a step back and adopt a more pragmatic perspective. But the behaviour of the Malays, including in the two recent episodes of SK Seri Pristana and the cow slaughter in national schools, is no help. It takes two hands to clap.

                      re: “It is time for them to speak out and do the needful and here is one good platform to do that.”

                      I have the same frustration. The Indians should indeed utilize this useful platform that I’m providing to engage with the Malays.

                      re: “While the title clearly “menempelak DAP’, all through your comments and in his defense, you have inadvertently blaming and running down the GOMEN.”

                      It isn’t the DAP that is keeping him in jail. I wish that Umno can see and realise that this course they’re pursuing with Uthaya is going to cost BN and might tilt the balance of the Indian votes in GE14 and ultimately causing Umno to lose Putrajaya.

                      Why this vendetta against Uthaya? He’s already served 1-and-1/2 years detention in Kamunting for that “ethnic cleansing” letter. Close the chapter and move on.

                      re: “indirectly ‘menambahkan kebencian kaum India pada GOMEN dan bukan pada DAP’. Is that what you are trying to achieve?”

                      Hardly me. It was drama king Guan Eng who called the press conference and showed reporters the letters he wrote to the Prisons Dept asking to visit Uthaya. This case is plum political capital in the hands of the opposition. One need only review Teoh Beng Hock to see how DAP milked public anger and sympathy to the last drop.

                      Even The J-Star added fuel to the fire. See‘The Star: Govt says Beng Hock’s “own negligence” caused his death’.

                      The continued incarceration of Uthaya poses a lose-lose situation for both the Indian community and the Gomen. If only some Umno bigwig can see this and make the appropriate remedy.

  6. The Government already has Waythamoorthy to become their manservant. To them, Uthaya is of no use and can spend the rest of his sentence in the death row cells.

    The comments from some of your regulars dismissing Uthaya’s and the Indian community’s plight, and pitching the ‘typical Indian’ canard is very telling of their racist mindset.

    1. What racist mindset are you talking about here.

      Even Hang Tuah killed his bestfriend Jebat who was infact taking revenge for him – however the wrong way by going Amok and killing. Is he an Indian?

      Common la you people don’t try to trick us with all these racist nonsense.

      1. Those who had term themselves as T’ng Langs and the penduduk asal as Huannas, don’t deserve to teach others about not being racist in the first place. Period.

      2. “What racist mindset are you talking about here.”

        Let us look at your earlier comments:

        “Kalo zaman British Empire dulu ini Aney pasti dah kena banished and shipped off to one deserted island.”

        I suppose you think it is also alright to call them ‘keling’? I remember there was one frequent reader who defended his use of that term.

        Indians are prone to suicide. They should have him clothed only in disposable pampers or banana leaves as any kind of cloth too can be considered lethal weapon.”

        Now, if somebody said ‘Malays are prone to incest, and Rina should be separated from her male cousins to avoid unwanted incidents’, would you consider that racist?

    2. AC-DC,

      And it may “sooth’ your pain to know that Malay, islam and whatever dear to them are ridiculed with impunity in social media.

      Just recently , Kit siang said UMNO(meaning Malays) treated non Malays the way Nazi Germans treated its opponent.

      1. re: ‘Just recently , Kit siang said UMNO(meaning Malays) treated non Malays the way Nazi Germans treated its opponent.”

        Guan Eng said. Not sure if Kit Siang ever did.

        1. helen,

          Thanks for the clarification. Bottom line is that these 2 ‘anak beranak” are inciting the Chinese. and the sad part is Najib is doing nothing.

  7. I have no sympathy with Uthaya. He deserves what he gets.

    He should have learned, understood and adopted the Malay saying, “Kerana pulut santan binasa, kerana mulut badan binasa”.

    1. The same applies to Isma. However I do not foresee them getting what they deserve unless Malaysia plunges into a civil war like Syria or Egypt.

        1. Yes Helen – please clarify what Isma had said that is equivalent to what that crap Uthaya had said seditiously (telling the world that the Malays were ethnic cleaners/killers/murders).

          My telinga masih berdesing macam the first time I read what Uthaya said about my race. Rasa macam nak tenyeh mulut si sial Uthaya dengan cili padi.

          1. You don’t like people label org Cina, dengan perkataan ‘babi’, so you should understand that we strongly despised Uthaya for labelling us, Malays as murderers. Org sial kurang ajar tahap maksimum macam Uthaya patut di striped off his citizenship and thrown to the lions.

            1. Helen – you had underestimated how deeply Uthaya had hurt our feelings with his callous statement about Malays.

  8. salam..
    semua yg masuk penjara yg mmg melakukan walo apa pun kesalahan mestilah berani buat berani tanggung… takyah merenggek segala.. bkn tak bagi mkn… owh..

    dulu teresa kok kata mcm bg anjing mkn.. masak kawah biasa lah.. yg pasti depa tak masak semua dlm satu periok/gaul dlm satu bekas mkn… saya tgk cerita korea mkn gaul semua dlm manggkuk sedap jew.. teringin plaks… asrama skool pown masak kawah…

    bila dah dewasa rasa seronok bila ingat balik…. mmg perkara biasa org m’sia terlebih manja… tak abis abis merenggek merenggek komplen komplen lagi lagi org2 politik… sabao nyew haku….

  9. I have not posted for some time because in the immortal words of Kim Jong Il (Team America: World Police) “Do you have any idea how fucking busy I am?” However, LOL post # 57 does deserve comment, to wit “gangsterism, the relevant of caste system and direction of SJKT are among three issues that I raised” is the kind of racial talking points that obfuscate the argument when it comes to the Indian problem (sic) in the Sino-Malay dialectic.

    Never mind that this same argument could be applied with differing “class” and economic deprivation roles to the Malay community enabled by the feudalistic nature of Malay politics and the over bearing presence of a State sponsored Islam.

    Although my recollection of the argument/discussions with LOL was far more nuanced (on my part at least) than mere myth busting, these talking points persists on being raised by UMNO/PR partisans in lieu of tackling the systemic discrimination brought upon by the Sino-Malay dialectic.

    With this in mind contrary to LOL contention that his “reading about their community plight and direction has always been and almost right most of the time.” is of course wrong unless by “right” he means unchallenged.

    For instance, LOL references the fact that “Najib has admitted that BN has made mistake and apologized for that” but at the same time carries on with the partisan line that the “gomen” is always blamed for everything.

    The contradictory nature of most arguments made here is understandable but the fact is that like most entrenched political parties, the ruling elite has never had a problem exalting in its perceived successes but is quick to disown its failures.

    I have no idea if “ there are many silent Indian followers in your blog” but anecdotally speaking those Indians who I know are aware of Helen’s blog veer from simpatico to cynicism of her blog posts concerning Indian issues.

    LOL asks what the Indians who he assumes “silently” read this blog have done for the Indian community, which is disingenuous, as if the System was predicated on a detached Government, and not the racial pandering that is the bread and butter issues of the raced based BN/PR political parties.

    Of course the responses from the Malay readership of this blog does nothing to encourage the idea that the racial formula has anything to offer the Indian community or rather the English speaking Indian community which ironically is more diverse than the stereotype allows.

    As for the disenfranchised of the Indian community, they will eventually die out or be assimilated (through whatever kind of social mobility mechanism in place) Borg like either into the burgeoning Hindu or Christian “class” at odds with the UMNO Establishment.

    However the Indians have only themselves to blame for voting for successive BN governments in which the current BN PM has conceded has made mistakes and apologized for.

    But whatever.

    As for the Komtar’s Potentate desire to visit Uthaya, well as a dedicated DAP as opposed to a Chinese basher, I have to say, it would be amusing to see the divine presence in jail. They say most inmates eventually find God.

    However is Uthaya’s situation racial? Definitely. Everything in this country is. However as usual what is lost in this nonsense is the systemic failure of our prison system that affects all inmates regardless of race.

    Uthaya is the very definition of a political prisoner however, in most of his missives from prison he has highlighted the Systemic dysfunction which is an indictment against the prison system and ironically for Uthaya, a nonracial one.

    1. Edit to add :

      Also, I have never “admitted” to being Indian. In fact I have always been upfront about it. I have no idea why this meme persists amongst certain section of contributors to this blog.

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