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What a freakin’ pervert!

Orang mati pun all Hannah Yeoh can think about is “me, me, me”.

And what kind of people are they who retweeted (6 twits) and favourited (9 twits) her navel-gazing?

Twitter - hannahyeoh- Attending 3 funerals in a week

Oh ya, for everyone’s info, the Puan Speaker has a habit of deleting those of her tweets that expose her hypocrisy or invite backlash.

She has been caught red-handed before by the MIC Special Officer bloggers Dhanyaraam and Cigku Shashi as well as by bloggers Seademon and Turtle Mamasan.

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Update (Nov 19): Midget minds discuss themselves

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Twitter - hannahyeoh- Awake. Thinking. Goodnight all
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68 thoughts on “What a freakin’ pervert!

  1. extremely low class ……. and I think the correct word should be ” Sicko”

    Let the deceased rest in peace , no need to tell the whole world that Mr Speaker is keeping count of the number of funerals she has been attending.

    Or maybe it her and Dap stratetgy to keep count as to how many outsider should be brought in for the next election to replace these dearly departed souls

  2. It indeed would be good for her soul if she kept it private and not tweet to the world. Self refection should be kept private. Between you and God. Just imagine if there is tweeter 2000 years ago, would Jesus have tweeted after every good deed he did?

    1. One of the deceased whose funeral she attended was Kevin Tan, 42, from Petaling Jaya a tourist guide who drowned after he had jumped into the river to save one of the Singaporeans under his charge who got into difficulties while playing at the Perting Pandak Waterfalls, Bentong.

      The death was accidental and the guy leaves behind a 4-year-old daughter Zoe and 10-month-old son Lucas. And attending his funeral did “something good” to Hannah Yeoh’s black soul?

      1. For a person who intentionally blows things out of proportion, spreads gossips, and vindictively sows propaganda against people for such small things as hiring an ex journalist from a certain newspaper, it is very hypocritical that you accuse Hannah of having ‘black soul’.

        1. Oh, I forgot that you and Hannah and the rest of Jerusubang are colour blind. So her soul is not “black” lah. It is colourless in your eyes.

          1. despicable ang, you are the only one making a mockery of the dead. not that you have a soul, but karma doesn’t care…all your bitching and incitement and pure rubbish..if you have to prostitute yourself for your political needs, at least find issues or a platform. There is a lot wrong with the country. Think about the common man. Think about his issues. Life, security and just basic quality. There is much you can do..Try.

  3. Sister, witnessing the death of others should really get “me” concerned about my own mortality. But propagating “ALLAH” as some 3-in-1 thing that is born into creation is absolutely detrimental to the well-being of the soul, and opens the way for all kinds of human perversions.

    DEATH: What Really Saves Life . . . [YouTube]

  4. this is a reason why reasonable Pakatan leaders like Khalid Ibrahim have his secretary do the tweet for him to let the masses know his daily engagements, because only stupud politicians write their own tweets and risk exposing their vanity and weakesses.

    Here we have dumb DAP morons like Hannah and dungu Minister of Sport Beruk KJ expressing riak or show off to net the youth voters. Have the youth because so dumb and blind to be ensnared by such charlatans. Most youth have a strong loyal blind conviction to their politicians pkus with religious fervor, as can be seen in DAP youth supporters and their PAS/ISMA counterparts.

    I have been an opposition supporter during the dark days of the Badawi slumberjack regime, but am able to review my political belief in support of a stable country, most youths today like ISMA fanatics and DAP church zealots really believe that Malaysia should undergo upheaval in order to reshape the BN dominated Malaysia into their own utopians either a Taliban state or an elite Christian dominated hegemony.

  5. You should look at KJ’s facial expression after he won a Shout Award last night. That grin ha ha ha !!!

    http://www.nst.com.my/nation/general/khairy-wins-wired-star-award-1.396728

    Re “I didn’t expect this. To those who voted for me, I don’t know what you were doing,” Khairy said. This is the first time he has been nominated for an entertainment award.

    Ha ha ha !!! Come on KJ. Seriously, you expected a win all along. Just admit it. Without doubt this won’t be the last time he gets nominated. We will hear a lot of you in the years to come.

    With people like him in Umno, the opposition, particularly the DAP must be delighted, elated. If you want to destroy a fortress, do it with the help of its occupants.

      1. The only surprise, if we can call it a surprise, is that Umno supporters still think their party is strong and they will win the next election.

        The party is being undermined from within by people like KJ. I say people like KJ because KJ is not the only one, there are numerous others like him in Umno, people like Saifuddin too are doing their level best to undermine Umno.

        Moving to Sarawak, if Taib is still around in 2018, a smart man like him should reconsider his and his party’s position with regards to relations with Umno. The BN is now all about Umno. the rest are just there to make up the numbers.

        I mean, look, what is Taib’s priority ? If his priority is to remain in power, enrich his family and friends and allow his party to retain power, he should make a deal with Pakatan. He has nothing to lose really. In return, Pakatan would leave him and his entourage alone to lead Sarawak as long as he provides support to Pakatan at the federal level.

        Mind you, Taib’s party holds considerable number of federal seats. Not a bad deal for him and his party. He and his party can remain as the Raja in Sarawak and Pakatan get what they want. A win win deal for both sides.

          1. Forget it la ! Marching ? What Marching ? The only marching is marching to the opposition side by the other component parties. Or is it marching to become the opposition after the next election ?

            1. ‘Pakatan would leave him and his entourage alone to lead Sarawak as long as he provides support to Pakatan at the federal level.’

              I can imagine Pakatan to resort to such deal.

              I surely can’t wait to see the reaction from Pakatan’s supporters coming to realize the cakap tak serupa bikin of their can do no wrong leaders!

      1. The Kera Jantan is not photogenic at all. The Star is having tough time picking good photo of him to build his image hahaha

  6. Did she go in her stunning baju kurung to the funeral? I remember one Penang case. The memorial stone of one deceseased where the names of the children are in bigger fonts than the deceased.

    Matbe this is the low class aristocratic Jerusubang and Betelham culture. She should wear her stunning baju kebangsaan Isreal chosen people ma

  7. I am sure Hannah knows she is a less than perfect being. By virtue of her faith, she is a confessed sinner and acknowledges her imperfections.

    It is sad she failed to live up to some of her dectractors’ expectations. As far as her political responsibility goes, she is answerable only to her constituents who actually voted her to office.

    As a political figure, criticism is part and parcel of life. It is just regrettable most of the criticism here is not related to her job performance.

    1. re: “I am sure Hannah knows she is a less than perfect being.”

      Are you a mind reader?

      re: “By virtue of her faith, she is a confessed sinner and acknowledges her imperfections.”

      Izzit? She sees the imperfections in others first and foremost, like her tweet which says: “May God have mercy on the racists for they love not others who are also made in God’s image.”

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      re: “As far as her political responsibility goes, she is answerable only to her constituents who actually voted her to office.”

      You have forgotten that she is the Madam Speaker for the entire state of Selangor. FYI, I’m a Selangorian.

      re: “As a political figure, criticism is part and parcel of life. It is just regrettable most of the criticism here is not related to her job performance.”

      She is unable to take criticism. She has banned Netizens from her Twitter feed, including the MIC’s Special Officer Cikgu Shashi who blogge about his ban. She has deleted contentious tweets that caught her out in her hypocrisy — several other bloggers have recorded this with Screenshots.

      Is it a part of her job performance to tweet (have you forgotten the infamous photo taken of her looking at her Twitter via Facebook when the DUN was in session) about the funeral of someone who died tragically in an accident at age 42, and tell her 83,500 Twitter followers how “good” attending the funeral(s) makes her soul feel?

      Please remember that Twitter and Facebook are tools of the trade where DAP evangelista politicians are concerned. We know that her previous job was as an Event manager. But what are the specs of her present job, pray tell, considering that she tweets 24/7?

      1. re: Are you a mind reader?

        Christianity 101 – anyone who professes to follow Christ acknowledges their imperfections and asks for forgiveness. To accept Jesus, Christians have to recite the sinners’ prayer. Mind reading ability not necessary to conclude Hannah, as a Christian acknowledges her inadequacy as a human being.

        Quote: “She sees the imperfections in others first and foremost, like her tweet which says: “May God have mercy on the racists for they love not others who are also made in God’s image.”

        There is nothing wrong praying for others. There is no ground to jump into the conclusion she is doing it out of condescension. Christians do that all the time. They can pray for everyone, even those who don’t share the love. Who knows, most of the commentators here might be on her prayer list.

        Quote: “You have forgotten that she is the Madam Speaker for the entire state of Selangor. FYI, I’m a Selangorian.”

        Ooops, OK then. Apart from her fetish for baju kurung and tudung during mosque visits, her Christianity, Indian husband who don’t like to speak Indian, bangsa Malaysia offspring and penchant for the need to share every little thing on her twitter account, anything else you find lacking that is actually associated to her Speaker and MP job?

        Quote: “She is unable to take criticism. She has banned Netizens from her Twitter feed, including the MIC’s Special Officer Cikgu Shashi who blogge about his ban. She has deleted contentious tweets that caught her out in her hypocrisy”

        Did she proclaim she never censors her comments? If yes then she is a liar. If no, then it’s her prerogative. She has the absolute discretionary rights to publish or censor any comment on her account.

        1. re: “Mind reading ability not necessary to conclude Hannah, as a Christian acknowledges her inadequacy as a human being.”

          It depends on whether we see her as a Christian or as a deviant cultist.

          re: “Christians do that all the time. They can pray for everyone, even those who don’t share the love. Who knows, most of the commentators here might be on her prayer list.”

          Hallelujah. How blessed are my unloving commenters. Cepat-cepat bersyukur ya.

          re: “Apart from her fetish for baju kurung and tudung during mosque visits, her Christianity, Indian husband who don’t like to speak Indian, bangsa Malaysia offspring and penchant for the need to share every little thing on her twitter account, anything else you find lacking that is actually associated to her Speaker and MP job?”

          Why don’t you list down items of her sterling performance that are actually associated with her Speaker and Adun job, and share the accolades with us?

          re: “Did she proclaim she never censors her comments? If yes then she is a liar. If no, then it’s her prerogative. She has the absolute discretionary rights to publish or censor any comment on her account.”

          You’re correct insofar as it applies to any ordinary blogger or twit who is not obligated to publish all comments that are submitted. But the very foundation of the DAP’s appeal to gullible voters is that they’re “transparent”, “accountable” and swear to promote and defend freedom of expression.

          If criticisms are brought up, either you answer or deflect them or acknowledge a shortcoming/mistake or bite your tongue.

          But here, Hannah blocked the person who tweeted (@jasmeenz) as well as deleted the @hannahyeoh’s tweet which was a lie (caught red-handed by @jasmeenz who furnished the proof).

          “Bukan saja block, Mama [Dapster] juga bertindak memadam tweet yang dihantar beliau…”

          See http://dhanyaraam.blogspot.com/2013/01/gambar-mama-dapster-hannahyeoh-menipu.html

          (He’s an MIC pegawai khas and a bona fide account.)

          So where is the Transparency and Accountability of a CAT-promoting DAP politician in her social media behaviour?

          1. Quote: “It depends on whether we see her as a Christian or as a deviant cultist.”

            Hope you realize that sounds awfully self righteous.

            Quote: “Why don’t you list down items of her sterling performance that are actually associated with her Speaker and Adun job, and share the accolades with us?”

            I’ll pass. I am not the one complaining.

            Quote: “So where is the Transparency and Accountability of a CAT-promoting DAP politician in her social media behaviour?”

            True. Pointing out such hypocrisy makes a better argument than the usual mean spirited personal attacks on her faith, family and clothes.

            1. re: Quote: “It depends on whether we see her as a Christian or as a deviant cultist.” / “Hope you realize that sounds awfully self righteous.”

              I hope you realize that the government has in the past taken severe action against deviant cultists. Have you ever heard of the Memali incident? Are you aware that the leaders of Al-Arqam were put under ISA? And that the authorities maintains a list of banned Muslim sects considered terpesong akidah?

              As for self-righteousness, methinks the one below fits your bill:

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              re: “I’ll pass. I am not the one complaining.”

              How else would we view your comment against the majority of the commenters? Not complaining but complimentary, meh?

              re: “True. Pointing out such hypocrisy makes a better argument than the usual mean spirited personal attacks on her faith, family and clothes.”

              Let’s start with her FAMILY. She was the one who politicised her newborn baby and kicked up a ruckus by making accusations against the JPN clerk who refused to allow her registration of ‘Anak Malaysia’ as a newly created DAP 3.0 “keturunan” in the birth cert application form.

              If Hannah Yeoh hadn’t herself first politicised her child, nobody in Malaysia would even know the baby’s name. For example, most of us here are likely unaware of the names of Radifah’s or Ng Yen Yen’s children.

              Then Hannah Yeoh, with the endorsement of Lim Guan Eng and the DAP publicity machinery embarked on a national campaign to pressure the government to accede to her demand that her daughter should not be registered as Indian.

              And without a trace of irony, she chose the ‘Chinese’ race in filling in the form after all when push came to shove. So is highlighting this hypocrisy a matter of questioning the DAP snake oil bottled in Firster ideology (politics), or is it picking on her family (personal)?

              Furthermore, she made a brouhaha of wanting to petition Najib Razak in order to to get her way with the birth certificate registration. Meaning she took her publicity stunt to the highest level of trying to drag in the Prime Minister.

              With all that she has done in politicising her family, including exploiting the political capital of her mixed marriage to fish Indian votes as well as splashing her family photos (including the two girls) all over the media pages (see magazine cover here), you’re telling us here that we’re not allowed to make any critical remarks wrt her family on pain of being termed “mean-spirited”?

              As for the copious public display of her FAITH, and mind you, she preaches (tazkirah) her politics in various churches of different denominations, well, she’s about ethically at par with Rev. Kong Hee of the City Harvest Church. It is unfortunate that unlike Singapore which nips the evangelistas in the bud before their cacing naik ke mata, our gomen is helmed by the Parti Paling Tidak Apa as shown by how the kerajaan had allowed the Allah issue to descend into its present morass.

              As for her CLOTHES, I will maintain what I’ve said before.

              Hannah Yeoh tweeted that her favourite shopping haven is Little India, Klang. I rolled my eyes at her claim and scoffed that some politicians will say just about anything to win public favour. It is up to the readers whether they believe that Hannah Yeoh does indeed love to shop in Little India (a distant, dusty, low-income neighbourhood in Klang) or whether they share my skepticism.

              1. Couldn’t agree more with you Helen. Can’t help it. HY is a sell out. She had brought her family into the country’s political sphere. No two ways about it.

                What is so shameless and mean spirited was when she had use her anak to lobby gullible and dumb Malaysians for her political rise in power.

                Had she not exploiting her anak2, no one would even know her! So she could not tell us to leave her and her anak-anak alone. They had Mama Dapsters to thanked for.

                1. Islam1st

                  Quote:
                  “What is so shameless and mean spirited was when she had use her anak to lobby gullible and dumb Malaysians for her political rise in power.”

                  Shoddy work is unbecoming of you. Get the dates right. Hannah first child was born 1st June 2011. She assumed office back in 8 March 2008.

                  So HY not guilty on the count of using her child to fuel her political ambitions.

                  1. Assumed office 2008

                    Occasionally had the STAR run stories of her and her husband in their Metro segment. Other than the Jerusubangites Dapster, no one would bat an eyelid looking at her sweet looking face (then).

                    Had her first child in 2011, all hell break lose as she had catapulted to national psyche with her anak Bangsa Malaysia campaign and the rest is herstory, Madam Speaker no less, as we speak.

                    HH, ask me nicely, should you want to be spoon fed again!

                    1. Quote: “Had she not exploiting her anak2, no one would even know her! ”

                      That was your initial comment. Am merely pointing out it is not true HY, an elected MP is an obscure being (as indicated by your above comment) prior to the birth of her daughter.

                      Did HY tried to capitalize on her baby birth cert issue to further her political agenda? Quite possibly.

                      Btw, I’ll KIV your offer.

                      Cheers

                    2. ‘That was your initial comment. Am merely pointing out it is not true HY, an elected MP is an obscure being (as indicated by your above comment) prior to the birth of her daughter. ‘

                      Haiya, so slow la you. It’s show that I had fikir few steps more than you did.

                      I thought a Cina supposed to be more pandai than a lazy half baked credentials sakai? No meh?

  8. Re:”I hope you realize that the government has in the past taken severe action against deviant cultists.”

    Okay, what deviant cult does HY belong to ? I mean forget about the hypocrisy , which is the go to tool in a politician’s kit and afflicts most anyone who publically professes a religion….but what deviant cult does she belong to ?

    And please don’t reference the DMC and its affiliates because they are as mainstream as you can get with all the corruption and perfidy that is present in nearly all organized worship, esp state sanctioned or official ones.

  9. I hate to bring this argument further because I don’t want to sound like HY’s apologist. Just for the record, I’m not. If you view politicians using the religion card a cause for disdain, then be consistent across the board. Let’s not go down the easy road and pick on lame duck Christians only. Word like ‘evangelistas’ are not going to deflect the underlining prejudice present, what more in trying to set fuzzy distinctions between DAP, MCA kinda Christianity vs the general Christianity.

    I for one am in favor of separation of religion and Govt. I am a Christian, but I am all for a nation that is govern by common law that accord equal right and protection to every faith under the sun. I don’t want state sanctioned Christianity, period. In view of your objection on the rising number of Christians in office, it would be nice to know if it is just Christianity the issue or like me, you favor separation of religion and govt.

    Cheers

    1. re: “you favor separation of religion and govt”

      It is clear enough that I favour separation of religion and gomen, and for religion to be kept out of the public sphere inasmuch as this can be managed.

      That is why my blog featured the ‘Cow Slaughtering in School’ threads — a complaint on which the DAP evangelistas were conspicuously silent. Obviously because the tudung-wearing, #sahur-ucaping biawak politicians do not care to defend the sensitivities of the Hindus if it risks alienating the DAP Muslim vote bank. So for the DAP, it is minority rights be damned if such a defence impedes their march to Putrajaya.

      Similarly my blog featured discussions on why hudud is not viable to be carried out. Again another topic on which the DAP evangelistas have nothing to say, and where their expedient silence means consent. Furthermore and insidiously, the DAP evangelistas have successfully labelled any non-Malay who is against the implementation of hudud as being “anti-Islam”.

      re: “If you view politicians using the religion card a cause for disdain, then be consistent across the board. Let’s not go down the easy road and pick on lame duck Christians only.”

      I have said in this blog that Isma are religious “extremists”. Yes, Isma are politicians. They put up 11 third party (on Berjasa ticket) candidates in GE13. Can you show me where the DAP evangelistas have ever tried to check religious extremism?

      On the contrary, the DAP evangelistas not only pander to the existing religious extremism, they introduce their own brand of Christian fanaticism into politics and the public sphere.

      I have also given the example of:

      “…Dr Chandra Muzaffar was the man who came forward to defend the Sri Sundararaja Perumal temple in Klang as well as to give Muslim extremist group Isma a slap on the wrist for kicking up a ruckus over the temple refurbishment.

      Dr Chandra is the public figure whom the Dapsters love to vilify. Nonetheless when push came to shove, he stepped up to the plate in the face of the DAP evangelistas keeping as quiet as a church mouse over the Isma assault.”

      And Dr Chandra is the chairman of the 1Malaysia Foundation. He spoke up for Hindu rights. There was a deathly silence in the DAP camp over Isma’s intimidation of the Sri Sundararaja Perumal in Klang (that Little India town where Hannah Yeoh kononnya loves to do her shopping).

      re: “because I don’t want to sound like HY’s apologist”

      You may not want to sound like Hannah Yeoh’s apologist but you most certainly do. Cringe.

      1. To Helen Ang, anybody who is cynical about her far-fetched arguments full of straw-men and red herring is automatically labelled a Hannah Yeoh acolyte.

        Even Khairy became a target, because he decided to appoint an ex newspaper journalist. Hilarity ensues.

        If a former staffmember from The Star goes to work at… for example, Maxis as a Human Resource executive, it will not surprise me if Helen starts vilifying Maxis and Ananda Krishnan.

        1. re: “automatically labelled a Hannah Yeoh acolyte”

          You’re referring to the apology for Hannah threads (copyspasted below):

          “I am sure Hannah knows she is a less than perfect being. By virtue of her faith, she is a confessed sinner and acknowledges her imperfections.” / “As far as her political responsibility goes, she is answerable only to her constituents who actually voted her to office.” / “It is just regrettable most of the criticism here is not related to her job performance.” / “There is no ground to jump into the conclusion she is doing it out of condescension. Christians do that all the time. They can pray for everyone, even those who don’t share the love. Who knows, most of the commentators here might be on her prayer list.” / “it’s her prerogative. She has the absolute discretionary rights to publish or censor any comment on her account.” / “the usual mean spirited personal attacks on her faith, family and clothes.”

          The comments reproduced above are a thick pile in defence of Hannah Yeoh, and all coming from one solo commenter.

          But you’re accusing me of automatically labelling anyone who disagrees with me as a “Hannah Yeoh acolyte”. If you’ll rake through the stack above, you can easily tabulate dozens of specific mentions and defence of HY. So I’m not simply plucking from thin air any alleged sympathetic feeling between the commenter and the politician.

      2. Quote: “Can you show me where the DAP evangelistas have ever tried to check religious extremism?”

        Why would I expect DAP, a political party, to get on the moral high ground and not try to capitalize on the religious card to get votes? These are afterall exactly the kind of opportunistic stuff political parties are fond of.

        BTW, despite accusation of DAP not doing anything to curb religious extremism, DAP has been widely depicted as the poster boy of anti-Islam.

        1. re: “capitalize on the religious card to get votes”

          When the DAP opportunistically capitalizes on the religious card to get votes, it is only beneficial to their evangelista candidates like Ong Kian Ming, Yeo Bee Yin and Rajiv Rishyakaran — YBs who have all been party members only a mere couple of years (Ong and Yeo joined the party in late August 2012).

          It does not benefit the public at large, especially not when DAP 3.0 is hell-bent on stirring religious tensions. The people standing to gain are the DAP candidates in Sarawak (and perhaps later Sabah) who will collect a few more seats and the Pakatan’s hope of capturing Putrajaya.

          In the meantime, the DAP is dragging the minorities into an inevitable clash with the majority. Already everywhere else in the world, the Muslims and Christians are warring.

          See, ‘Burning the Churches: Egypt’s Christians in the Heat of August’

          “Churches, schools, and official dwellings of all Christian denominations — Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant — have been destroyed; at least 52 Christian schools, convents, monasteries, institutions, and churches have been demolished. According to the offices of Coptic Orthodox Pope Tawadros II, 100 churches and Christian institutions in all were attacked and some twice. These counts leave out the shops, businesses, vehicles and private homes belonging to Christians.”

          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nelly-van-doornharder/burning-the-churches-egyp_b_3831544.html

          It’s bad enough that the DAP evanglistas are baiting the Muslims but at the same time they want to drag the other minorities (Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Taoists, etc) into the fray. See https://helenang.wordpress.com/2012/10/09/sah-guan-eng-memang-mencampur-adukkan-politik-dengan-agama/

          1. Quote: “When the DAP opportunistically capitalizes on the religious card to get votes, it is only beneficial to their evangelista candidates….”

            In every game, there has to be winners and losers. The only pertinent question to ask is, is the winner worthy? Apart from what you perceived to be their biggest misgivings, that is having born again in Christ, what makes Ong Kian Ming, Yeo Bee Yin and Rajiv Rishyakaran unworthy of the opportunity presented to them? Lack of experience? Maybe, but if UBAH is the keyword, I rather have raw unpolished young men/women with ideals than a bunch of dried seasoned bureaucrats as candidates. Wait, why is the faith of the candidates an issue in the first place? Why are we judging any candidate for that matter on the basis of their religion?

            Quote: “It does not benefit the public at large, especially not when DAP 3.0 is hell-bent on stirring religious tensions.”

            Huh, you have to make up your mind. How is DAP stirring the religious brew when you were previously accusing the DAP of shirking away from stepping up to curb Islamic extremism?

            Quote: “In the meantime, the DAP is dragging the minorities into an inevitable clash with the majority. Already everywhere else in the world, the Muslims and Christians are warring.”

            The Muslims and the Christians have been at each other for more than a millennium. So what’s new? To hold DAP or Christianity accountable for the plight and inconveniences of being the non-Muslim minorities in an ‘Islamic’country like Malaysia, is disingenuous.

            Just on another thread you were acknowledging the difficulties and hurdles the authorities are throwing their way in the construction of temples (and churches) to commenter Shamsul.
            https://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/11/12/kuil-hindu-mahu-pakatan-ia-dibina-semula-bersebelahan-kawasan-loji-rawatan-kumbahan/

            Non-Muslim minorities should not play the blame game among themselves in hope of getting into the good graces of some. The ‘see, I am not like them, I come in peace..’ sycophantic approach to appease is pathetic and any relationship not built on mutual respect is not going to work. The best bet is to fight for a just judiciary system for our nation. When there is fairness in our legal system, there will be order and respect.

            1. Re: “In every game, there has to be winners and losers.”

              With the DAP (Developers Above People) party winning, the losers are the Kg Buah Pala, Kampung Pokok Assam, Kampung Binjai and Kampung Genting folks and the “low class” (in evangelista eyes).

              Re: “The only pertinent question to ask is, is the winner worthy? Apart from what you perceived to be their biggest misgivings, that is having born again in Christ, what makes Ong Kian Ming, Yeo Bee Yin and Rajiv Rishyakaran unworthy of the opportunity presented to them?”

              Dapsters accuse the Tun of nepotism when Mukhriz only contested his Umno Youth position 6 years after his father’s retirement.

              Yeo Bee Yin was Tony Pua’s serving personal assistant and Rajiv Rishyakaran was Hannah Yeoh’s serving personal assistant. What do you call their meteoric elevation if not the Born-Again-Christian cronyism.

              As for OKM, he joined DAP at the end of Aug 2012 and was put up as a candidate on 5 May 2013 (for the general election) 8 months later without a shred of grassroots support having just been parachuted at the last minute into a DAP-demographic constituency.

              Re: “Lack of experience? Maybe, but if UBAH is the keyword, I rather have raw unpolished young men/women with ideals than a bunch of dried seasoned bureaucrats as candidates.”

              Why should ‘Ubah’ be the keyword? Instead ‘Ubah’ would better serve as the label on a snake oil bottle.

              Those veteran DAP members whom you call “dried seasoned bureaucrats” are the ones who built the party from ground up and stuck with the party during its lean times. Not the evangelista carpetbaggers who rolled in on the wave of Hate Politics to pick with ease the sudden golden apples.

              And Zulkifli Mohd Noor who had been a party member for 26 years and rose up to become its vice chairman had gone on record to say that DAP treated Malays in the party like they were only worth “lima kupang” (50 sen).

              Re: “Wait, why is the faith of the candidates an issue in the first place? Why are we judging any candidate for that matter on the basis of their religion?”

              Then why carry out all that politicking and buka puasa in the mosques and install yourself as the first non-Muslim #sahur champion? Why campaign in the Sibu by-election by demonizing the BN as “the anti-Christ agent”? Why send the campaign sms — “Vote against BN is a vote for Jesus.”

              Re: “How is DAP stirring the religious brew when you were previously accusing the DAP of shirking away from stepping up to curb Islamic extremism?”

              Why don’t you ask the Malays whether the DAP sec-gen’s 2012 Christmas message which touched on the ‘Allah’ word is regarded as stirring the religious brew or not.

              Re: “The Muslims and the Christians have been at each other for more than a millennium. So what’s new?”

              What’s new is that it is only new in Malaysia following the rise and rise of the evangelistas. Even May 13 did not contain an overt religious element of one faith group vs another (it was a race riot).

              Re: “To hold DAP or Christianity accountable for the plight and inconveniences of being the non-Muslim minorities in an ‘Islamic’ country like Malaysia, is disingenuous.”

              To continuously provoke and incite the non-Muslim minorities in Malaysia into believing they are at par with religious Holocaust victims is one of the causes of the increasing anti-Chinese sentiments that the Dapsters are whining about today.

              Re: “Non-Muslim minorities should not play the blame game among themselves”

              Interesting that you should make the religious distinction between the various peoples in Malaysia. The DAP on the other hand is adamant that there is no racial distinction at all.

              Everyone is Malaysian, and Malaysian only and hence there is no such thing as (ethnic) “minorities” because our country really comprises only one race — Bangsa Malaysia. And since there are no minority races (“no Chinese”, “no Indian”, “all Malaysians”) to speak of, then there is really no need for the gomen to pay any attention to ethnic minority problems because ethnic minorities are actually non-existent.

              Re: “in hope of getting into the good graces of some”

              Oh, you mean the non-Muslims who wear tudung naik turun masjid, ucap “Insya Allah”, jemput berpuasa Ramadan bersama-sama, agihkan daging korban, petik ayat al-Quran and other such stuff … (In short, you mean to say the DAP evangelistas?)

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              Re: The ‘see, I am not like them, I come in peace..’ sycophantic approach to appease

              See, I’m not like them low-class Chinese. Heck, I’m not even Chinese and my hubby ain’t actually an Indian either. See, I always wear tudung and songkok … just like you. See, not only do I come in peace, I just love to come into your surau and your mosques too. And if I attend a Muslim funeral, you can be sure I will spread the “feel good” news of my up close-and-personal brush with Islamic culture by tweeting the experience to my 84,000 Twitter followers.

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              Re: “is pathetic and any relationship not built on mutual respect is not going to work”

              I agree with you 101%. And I shall regurgitate your words as well: “sycophantic approach to appease”, “pathetic”, any relationship built solely on HYPOCRISY is not going to work. (Oh, were you talking about the DAP evangelistas again?)

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              Re: “The best bet is to fight for a just judiciary system for our nation. When there is fairness in our legal system, there will be order and respect.”

              Dapsters are always crowing that Guan Eng wins all his defamation lawsuits against Utusan. Is the judiciary system not fairness enough for them?

            2. ‘ The best bet is to fight for a just judiciary system for our nation.’

              Just because it does not go your way then it must be injustice!

              Geez. What else is new?!

  10. hannah yeoh dah sewel… tangan kanan memberi tangan kiri tak tahu.takkan nak jenguk orang mati pun dia cerita satu malaysia.. I hari ni dah pergi tengok orang mati 5 tempat. samada niat you nak menunjuk-nunjuk, nak tunjuk warak/alim/. nak tunjuk ada perasaan betapa akulah paling prihitin di malaysia.. atau memang otak dah sewel. tak ada orang nak tweet dia jenguk orang mati berapa tempat..

  11. Everyone is entitled to their opinion which candidate is worth their salt or paid their dues. You know, many have habored hope UMNO people would elect Tengku Razaleigh to be the one at the helm. But nay, it did not happen either.

    Quote: “And Zulkifli Mohd Noor who had been a party member for 26 years….. DAP treated Malays in the party like they were only worth “lima kupang” (50 sen).“

    You see, when a party is not mindful of the consequences, they will have to pay dearly having lost the Malay trust. If this is the reality, then DAP will suffer the consequences. If the price to pay is high is enough, that will serve as a painful lesson.

    Quote: “To continuously provoke and incite the non-Muslim minorities in Malaysia into believing they are at par with religious Holocaust victims is one of the causes of the increasing anti-Chinese sentiments that the Dapsters are whining about today.”

    Provoke and incite the non Muslims to do what? Not vote UMNO? Don’t forget UMNO ‘s horror tales about rich Chinese making it at the expense of the docile bumis and instilling fear the Chinese with their strong economic standing is going to reduce the majority race to lose relevance on their own land.
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    Quote: “Interesting that you should make the religious distinction between the various peoples in Malaysia. The DAP on the other hand is adamant that there is no racial distinction at all”

    What is so interesting about the fact Malaysia is a multi racial and cultural melting pot with different religion? DAP’s fabled bangsa Malaysia advocate one race, not one faith.

    Quote: “And I shall regurgitate your words as well: “sycophantic approach to appease”, “pathetic”, any relationship built solely on HYPOCRISY is not going to work. (Oh, were you talking about the DAP evangelistas again?)“

    Nope. I am most certainly not talking about the DAP Christians. While you hold cynical views wearing baju Melayu, tudung and mosque visits as ‘appeasing attempts’, I on the other hand have no qualms interpreting them as goodwill gesture by elected representatives. Well, if you must, call it a politician 101 vote-baiting exercise, still, it is not as if non-Muslims donning Malay attire (many companies ask/encourage such attire on Fridays anyway) and participation in Malay festivities a rarity and have adequate grounds to be labelled ‘sycophantic attempts’. Just look at FB and you will see all races succumbing to the allure of good food during Raya open houses.

    The ‘sycophantic approach to appease’ What I talked about refers to those who are content to bend forward and backward all the way with zero dignity while waiving their rights (and others’) just so they can suck up to the alpha group in the hopes they will be accorded mercy and favour.

    1. re: “You see, when a party is not mindful of the consequences, they will have to pay dearly having lost the Malay trust. If this is the reality, then DAP will suffer the consequences. If the price to pay is high is enough, that will serve as a painful lesson.”

      The DAP 3.0 is making the Chinese community at ground level suffer the consequences, pay the high price and get served the painful lesson. And they always have their Christian apologists disingenuously waving away all taints of fault as if May 13 happened in a vacuum without any provocation at all (i.e. the Chinese party members are entirely blameless despite their election campaign methods — so Kit Siang and his son imply).

      re: “Provoke and incite the non Muslims to do what?”

      I suppose you think that behaviour like that displayed by ‘On Your Toes’ occurs in a vacuum too without any incitement or provocation deriving from the political climate, ya?

      re: “What is so interesting about the fact Malaysia is a multi racial and cultural melting pot with different religion? DAP’s fabled bangsa Malaysia advocate one race, not one faith.”

      Then what is there for you to worry? Belief in DAP’s fabled SATU bangsa Malaysia will render “Umno’s horror tales about rich Chinese making it at the expense of the docile bumis” a moot point because all the SABMmers will have no such fear of “the Chinese” (this race does not exist in the DAP 3.0 book) and there is no divide between “the majority race” and the minority races because no such thing as race exists.

      re: “The ‘sycophantic approach to appease’ What I talked about refers to those who are content to bend forward and backward all the way with zero dignity while waiving their rights (and others’) just so they can suck up to the alpha group in the hopes they will be accorded mercy and favour.”

      re: “refers to those who are content to bend forward and backward all the way with zero dignity” … Look at the photo. Hey, it’s a two-term DAP evangelista Member of Parliament.

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      re: “while waiving their rights (and others’)”

      You mean waiving the right to recognise our own race and ethnic origin? So who has pawned the Chinese under this terms? Isn’t it the DAP evangelistas who have criminalized any acknowledgment that one can remain a Chinese or Indian or Malay in the country without being accused as a “racist”?

      re: “just so they can suck up to the alpha group in the hopes they will be accorded mercy and favour”

      ‘SUCK UP TO’ to the extent of imitating the puasa Ramadan like the #sahur champion so that they (he and his political party) will be accorded favour? “The sycophantic approach to appease” … ucap “Insya Allah” enough times, expand your tudung wardrobe and maybe the mighty deities (berhala-berhala perkasa) will be appeased.

      I’m fairly certain that with the fast changing demography of the DAP 3.0, what you say about “the sycophantic approach to appease” and “sucking up to the alpha group in the hopes they will be accorded mercy and favour” will be carried out with more vigour and even more evangelista field trips to the suraus and the mosques.

      Heck, maybe the many companies that ask/encourage their employees to wear Malay attire on Fridays will also chip in by organizing such activities as their CSR (corporate social responsibility).

  12. HH,

    I think this –

    “The ‘sycophantic approach to appease’ What I talked about refers to those who are content to bend forward and backward all the way with zero dignity while waiving their rights (and others’) just so they can suck up to the alpha group in the hopes they will be accorded mercy and favour.”

    – is an important point. I think as far as the Establishment goes, The anger that is directed towards people who have disavowed them – ceased the “sycophantic approach” as SOP – regardless of race or religion, manifest in themes such as “ungrateful”, “rude” and a general hubris that leads to rhetoric that seeks to demonize the Opposition as seeking to destroy the country as opposed to changing the leadership of the country. This strategy is presumptuous not to mention malicious.

    But the problem is not confined to the Establishment alone. I see the very same behaviour in the Opposition or rather the beginning of such behaviour in the manner in which they deal with dissent (in which sycophancy is acceptable) and in terms of policy discussion. Squabbling over turf (just one example) is not a sign of a healthy democratic or egalitarian give and take but rather, the resurgence of old habits.

    Sorry, don’t mean to break the flow of your discussion with Helen.

    1. re: “I see the very same behaviour in the Opposition or rather the beginning of such behaviour …”

      They are way past “the beginning” stage. In fact I’d go as far as to say they’ve perfected the art of the Politics of Hate.

      re: “manifest in themes such as “ungrateful”, “rude” and a general hubris that leads to rhetoric that seeks to demonize the Opposition …”

      The themes of ungrateful and rude as a tool to demonize still falls short of the themes of “anti-Christ agent”, “evil”, “wicked”, “wickedness, “devil incarnate” and “May God have mercy on the racists” as the SOP in demonizing, no?

      1. These people are a lost cause. Beyond salvation. They live in their own make believe world, a world divorced from reality. Visiting their Facebook is like “Are we in Wonderland?” That is their reality. But Wonderland is good for them. In Wonderland, they can indulge in perpetual hysteria. After all, the real world is not a place for people on steroids. Steroids = Politics of hate.

      2. Re” The themes of ungrateful and rude as a tool to demonize still falls short of the themes of “anti-Christ agent”, “evil”, “wicked”, “wickedness, “devil incarnate” and “May God have mercy on the racists” as the SOP in demonizing, no?”

        I don’t think so. It’s very difficult to say the Opposition has perfected the politics of hate when race politics has powered this country for decades nurtured by the Establishment.

        The rhetoric of the Opposition and the control of language is the natural consequence of that or if you like a reflection of the tactics of the Establishment, of which behind the benign phrases has always lurked something darker.

        1. re: “a reflection of the tactics of the Establishment”

          I should give you a standing ovation. You don’t dispute that the oppo rhetoric casts their opponents as “anti-Christ agent”, “devil incarnate”, “evil”, “wicked” etc but you’re still capable of saying with a straight face that this SOP is a mere reflection of the other side.

          As far as most people can recall, PAS also name called Umno as “syaitan”, “munafik” etc.

        2. re: “a reflection of the tactics of the Establishment”

          I should give you a standing ovation. You don’t dispute that the oppo rhetoric casts their opponents as “anti-Christ agent”, “devil incarnate”, “evil”, “wicked” etc but you’re still capable of saying with a straight face that this SOP is a mere reflection of the other side.

          As far as most people can recall, PAS also name called Umno as “syaitan”, “munafik” etc.

          1. Re:I should give you a standing ovation. You don’t dispute that
            the oppo rhetoric casts their opponents as “anti-Christ agent”, “devil incarnate”, “evil”, “wicked” etc but you’re still capable of saying with a straight face that this SOP is a mere reflection of the other side.”

            Whoa there, I don’t understand your train of thought here.

            Of course I can say what I said with a straight face because I have NEVER (seriously trawl through most of my posts here) disputed the fact that both sides play from the same racial deck and their rhetoric reflects this.

            What you seem to ignore is that the Opposition’s tactics didn’t just magically appear overnight but which is the natural extension of Establishment politics which sprung from Colonial sleight of hand.

            HH,

            Re:”I would very much like to know your take though.”

            Your post throws up some interesting themes and deserves a considered response. Much of what you bring up, is actually embedded in the anti DAP, DNA of this blog. I’ll get back to you, later in the day.

    2. Conrad

      Quote: “Sorry, don’t mean to break the flow of your discussion with Helen.”

      What are you talking about? So glad you’re back from hiatus. Your views are greatly missed.

      Quote: “But the problem is not confined to the Establishment alone…”

      Those PR people are having Spidey’s ‘great power comes great responsibility’ moment by being at odds on how to handle their newly acquired political relevance, eh?

      DAP is especially prone to ‘the old habit of dealing with dissent’ by default of being a Chinese majority party (you know the kiasu Chinese lah), unlike PAS which is bounded by their faith, DAP is defined solely by their leadership. And LKS has been there like forever. I do have my respect for him, but, it is telling when a leader is at the helm all these years without plans of relinquishing his’ throne’, you know you have one autocratic leader on top. Having an autocratic leader meant good able men/women are denied the opportunity to contribute their input, thus what is left are the residual yes-men.

      Earlier I told Helen I do actually relish the thought of new blood coming into the DAP. I am optimistic the young will breathe some much needed fresh air and practices into the stale and musty organization. That is of course, hopefully not the other way round where the young are subdued.

      I do have aspirations and recently boosted during the DAP CEC voting. Hopefully the party member themselves are up for some kind of reform within the party.

      I would very much like to know your take though.

      Cheers

      1. HH,

        As I have said before, I am an admirer of LKS for a variety of reasons. I suspect though, he is more of a figure head now, rather than a Master of Universe, like the new kids.

        While I agree with you that new blood is important, I do think that the new blood injected into the DAP does present some problems. There are fresh faces within the DAP but the problem is that they are overshadowed by the urban Evangelical clique, whose influence is far ranging.

        Take this fiasco with the CEC. Zulkifli Mohd Noor is the perfect example of how the DAP could have influenced the political landscape in a good way. The fact that he was side lined is absurd but the way how new blood washed over the old guard, says a lot about the new DAP.

        Chasing the Malay vote is perfectly acceptable but I do find it odd that the way how the DAP goes about it is not by fielding more Malay candidates or cultivating Malay members but rather haunting mosques and increasing the amount of money to Islamic institutions (like in Penang).

        There was a time when secular principles were extremely important to the DAP. These and other foundational principles would have acted as safe guards against the (Chinese)communal preoccupations of the DAP.

        These preoccupations are now exacerbated by the Religious imperatives of some of the new blood, which has drawn the DAP into various messes, which have eroded the very principles they claim would lead to a better tomorrow.

        In the end I don’t think the problem is sycophancy in the old guard of the DAP. I think the problem is the way how the new DAP expects unquestioning loyalty to a recently manufactured ideology.

        It’s this last part, which has been the agenda of the new blood within the DAP.

        1. Conrad,

          Thank you for sharing your insight. You did provide me certain fresh angle.

          Quote: “I think the problem is the way how the new DAP expects unquestioning loyalty to a recently manufactured ideology.”

          I am not privy to the inner workings of DAP, but certainly there has to be someone at the very top calling the shots. I find it hard to believe LKS could let the new kids run wild had they not have his blessings.

          Quote: “These preoccupations are now exacerbated by the Religious imperatives of some of the new blood, which has drawn the DAP into various messes, which have eroded the very principles they claim would lead to a better tomorrow.”

          Principles to a political party is as good as the votes they are getting. Currently the evangelicals are enjoying prominence within the party, I suspect because of their GE performance. Now, I am not saying I wholly agree the direction the party is heading (after reading your comment), but it is undeniable the party is enjoying tremendous support, not seen since rocket’s early glory days. Whether the evangelicals can continue to lead would very much depends if the end justifies the means.

          1. Re:”I am not privy to the inner workings of DAP, but certainly there has to be someone at the very top calling the shots. I find it hard to believe LKS could let the new kids run wild had they not have his blessings. ”

            I suppose because kids are so effective, it’s more like a “don’t get in their way” attitude. Can’t really say because the DAP is extremely effective in gagging or disenfranchising those whom don’t tow the party line.

            Re:”Principles to a political party is as good as the votes they are getting.”

            “Whether the evangelicals can continue to lead would very much depends if the end justifies the means.”

            You are right of course, but this merely points to the hypocrisy of the political process (democratic process) and all those who engage in it, which explains the fortunes of a party like PSM. I am not in the habit of arguing against axioms.

  13. For interracial couples, they should have the right to decide which bangsa the kids are registered/’labeled’ as. Betina meleis kahwin jantan Mat Salleh, the kids are usually melei, so what’s the deal if the non-melei kids follow their mommies’ bangsa.

    wonder why most of these kacukans, at least those in the public eye, i.e. ‘artis & selebriti’, some of whom are ‘berdarah Melayu di sebelah ibunya’ did not register the bangsa of their father, is it because they will be labeled under the category ‘lain-lain’ as per the constitution?

    http://leypark.com/8-artis-wanita-malaysia-kacukan-paling-cantik/

    http://www.malaysiaria.com.my/forum/topics/top-10-artis-wanita-kacukan-di-malaysia

    1. msleepyhead,

      While what you say about our local movie celebrities is not disputed, the point is that the Malay-orang putih parents of these artistes have not been grandstanding on race rhetoric and Bangsa Malaysia.

      And furthermore, the concept of Melayu is inclusive and that is why Dr M is seen as Melayu by the Malay community. However the Dapsters are the ones who insist that he is not Melayu but Indian. In other words, for the case of Dr M, the Chinese are insistent that lineage must follow the FATHER’S line.

      On the other hand, these Dapsters refuse to apply the same standards when it comes to pollies from their party.

      Hannah Banana and her the interracial hubby are adamant that their baby should not “be defined according to her race“.

      Okay, so Mr Hannah Yeoh and wife are saying that Shay Adora must not be categorized as either Chinese or Indian. Shay must be fitted into a newly created category specially created for her, which is not in the NRD form, and this new “keturunan” box is to be ‘Anak Malaysia’.

      Their demand is rejected by the NRD. Finally Shay’s race box is recorded as “Chinese”.

      It’s the HYPOCRISY of the DAP Firsters and their ideology that is at issue. They insist Dr M cannot follow his matrilineal line but see no problem in opting for Hannah Yeoh’s Chinese instead of Mr Hannah Yeoh’s Indian (but Tamil non-functioning), and after that they go into a tailspin of putar and belit.

      1. Seronok pulak baca diskusi pasal lineage. The jews blood lineage follow the mother side. Orang Negeri Sembilan kalau ikut suku, kesukuan mengikut suku belah ibu.

        Dalam kes Nabi Isa, yang dimukjizatkan tiada bapa, sapa pulak lineage Nabi Isa.

        Sepatutnya mengikut Maryam, emak Nabi Isa. tapi yang pelikya dalam Injil keturunan Nabi Isa mengikut Joseph, bapa tiri Nabi Isa, Joseph the Carpenter.Pelik bukan.

        Luke 3:23-38

        23 Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli, 24 the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Jannai, the son of Joseph

        1. re: “The jews blood lineage follow the mother side.”

          Encik Hannah Yeoh yang bahasa Tamilnya itu tidak berfungsi pun bercakap Kantonis dengan anaknya.

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    2. Re. Betina meleis kahwin jantan Mat Salleh

      meleis: Urban Dictionary

      1. Sub-genre pigs Malay / illegal / palat / pukimak / tungkik / smell Speng / izumen / sham pong and laimang

      2. Malay who easily get butt-hurt with some trolls/jokes

      3. Took from English word “Malaise”

      As for you MsSleepyHead @ Kepalangantuk

      Here is a word that defines you and your community before your ancestor were brought into this country i.e. TANAH MELAYU as labour by the British, lo and behold “KELING PARIAH’. No name, No Religion and No Country can change that DNA in you.

      Here is the sneak preview of your past mirror in present day India. [YouTube]

      1. oops tak tau pula alternate spelling sudah jadi derogatory term. cam ‘N’ word kat US pulak.

        1. Msleepyhead, memanglah sifat orang macam si LOL yang asyik menghentam membabi-buta.

          Perkataan meleis pun digunakan oleh blogger Melayu sendiri untuk merujuk kepada sekelompok sub-budaya. Setahu saya, slanga-internet ini dicipta oleh pemblogger Melayu.

          http://www.blogkencang.com/2012/04/kenali-puak-puak-kecil-dalam-kaum.html

          1. Meleis

          “Apa itu ‘Meleis’? Yang suka baca blog mesti pernah ternampak. Yang tak pernah dengar perkataan ‘Meleis’ ini pun, sebenarnya korang “

          Tak faham asal usul perkataan itu, dah mula menghentam bangsa India. Memanglah dia sesuai dijadikan sasaran troll oleh blogger muda.

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