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Latest in Muslim-Christian conflict — mosques shut down

This is a breaking news carried by some media outlets. Apparently mosques in Angola – a country on the west coast of Africa – would be closed until further notice, the Angolan Minister of Culture was quoted by Agence Ecofin as saying on Friday (Nov 22).

Angola is 95 percent Christian, according to a US State Department religious freedom report.

The story can be read in India Today under the headline ‘Angola “bans” Islam, Muslims, becomes first country to do so‘ (25 Nov 2013).

ABOVE: Rosa Cruz e Silva — Minister of Culture, Angola

BELOW: Angolan mosque dismantled in Viana, Luanda

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The dismantling of the mosque is reported in a weekly French-language Moroccan newspaper La Nouvelle Tribune (22 Nov 2013).

International Business Times (24 Nov 2013) reproduced a quote attributed to Angola President José Eduardo dos Santos who said that his country is working toward putting an end to Islamic influence there.

Christians and Muslims seem always to be fighting everywhere in the world.

The sad thing in Malaysia is that certain politicians who play the religion card, just because the Christians here have a quarrel with the Muslims (for example over the ‘Allah’ word), have tried to drag the adherents of other faiths into their fight by inciting hatred.

See ‘Sah! Guan Eng memang mencampur-adukkan politik dengan agama (ini buktinya)

TwitterhannahyeohWickedness of UMNO-BN

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16 thoughts on “Latest in Muslim-Christian conflict — mosques shut down

  1. Jikalau Puak DAPster Evengelist mahukan keadaan Angola jadi di Malaysia, fikirkanlah masak2. Ingat selama merdeka sehingga skg, Muslim tidak pernah menganggu penganut agama lain. Sehingga mekar subur perkembangan agama lain terutama Evengelist dan Hindu yg kuilnya terlalu besar dan berlambak di dalam sebuah negara Umat Islam.

    1. “Muslim tidak pernah menganggu penganut agama lain… …dan Hindu yg kuilnya terlalu besar dan berlambak di dalam sebuah negara Umat Islam”

      Nampaklah kita tidak perlu tunggu lama untuk melihat sikap prejudisnya menimbul ke atas permukaan toleransi yang cetik.

    2. Lu bodoh. Muslim dan Kristian memang saling menggangu kerana itu menuntukan ulama dan priest mereka. Lu tak tahu sejarah islam is tribalism dan Kristian pula adalah kuasa Roman Empayar.
      Evangelist dan Hindu berkembang itu kerana pemimpin UMNO leka dengan kontrak dari Cina.

  2. AC-DC.. you bljr BM kat mana? Kalau prejudinya muslim ke atas agama lain.. dah lama kena dah anasir pelampau.

  3. Well done, Helen!!

    I’m not sure if it was your intention but I can clearly see that Malaysia is not very different from Angola in our approach to religion.

    As you would know, in Malaysia, we have a few Indian temples and shrines dismantled in the same way as the mosque in the picture above.

    I am sure there are some in Malaysia who would love to dismantle churches as well.

    Now, we just have to wait a little while (’til 2019?) for the Malaysian economy to be the same as Angola’s but that is another story.

    1. A few Indian temples dismantled because those were built illegally and on reserved lands, idiot.

      I totally support every single demolision of illegally built buildings anywhere in Malaysia.

      1. Banyak sangat kuil di bina di tanah milik persendirian. Lepas tu bila kena roboh nak kata kejam?? yg depa pi bikin kat tanah bukan milik mereka apa pasal? mana pergi hak pemilik tanah? Goverment shoudl centralized the construction of temples. seems like there are control by gangsters!

        1. re: “Goverment shoudl centralized the construction of temples.”

          Just out of curiosity for comparison’s sake, is there any form of centralization for the building of mosques at state level? (I say ‘state’ and not ‘national’ as Islam comes under the purview of the individual sultans).

          It might be a good idea to have a form of consolidation. Respectfully move the deities from the small, ramshackle shrines and have Them sit together / share a bigger, nicely constructed temple.

          1. helen,

            Even for mosques and surau, they are built legally. and you will not have cases of suraus under trees, on pavements.

            With due respects to Hindus, you simply cant have temples, shrines built on government land and then cry out loud when they are demolished.

            The trick is to build a shrine. soon, it gets bigger and bigger, inviting criticism and forcing the government to act .

            I remember a case where some hindu community that built a temple on a land belongs to a mosque in Jelapang, Perak way back 30 years ago. It creates animosity among muslim community. as a way out, the state government donated a piece of land for mosque purpose to Muslim community.

            one excuse is that Hindus are not allowed to build temple. that is not the truth. the problem starts with the habit of creating a shrine with intention to demand the government to recoignise it.

            Just drive along places in cities and kampung, you will see number of temples in many cases exceeds that of mosques and surau put together.

            1. re: “With due respects to Hindus, you simply cant have temples, shrines built on government land and then cry out loud when they are demolished.”

              I believe that it’s only fair for the state to render some assistance for the construction and maintenance of Hindu temples. Isn’t doing something practical and brick and mortar like this more effective in earning goodwill than to jaja air liur with regard promoting and propagating “national unity”.

              re: “The trick is to build a shrine. soon, it gets bigger and bigger, inviting criticism and forcing the government to act.”

              I agree that there is some exploitation and melodrama in some cases. That’s why earlier I suggested that it will not be a bad idea to organize so that the illegal small shrines are consolidated by being given a bigger built-up area housing a proper (merged) and nice temple.

              re: “I remember a case where some hindu community that built a temple on a land belongs to a mosque in Jelapang, Perak way back 30 years ago. It creates animosity among muslim community. as a way out, the state government donated a piece of land for mosque purpose to Muslim community.”

              So 30 years ago there was more tolak ansur and jaga hati, cari jalan penyelesaian yang baik.

              re: “Just drive along places in cities and kampung, you will see number of temples in many cases exceeds that of mosques and surau put together.”

              Well, there is the question of quality vs quantity. You can’t compare the Putrajaya mosque and other mosques with the ‘illegal’ temples, can you?

              Look at the condition of the temples:

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              1. “..consolidate..the illegal …” can be on a trial basis. See how it works.

                Next they’ll start asking for more space.

                Helen, it seems only the Talibans can solve these kinds of problems.

                1. One thing I’ve noticed.

                  I’ll be the first to admit that Chinese are foodies. If over here we have 8-course dinners, my brother who has been to Beijing on business said his company reps were feted to a banquet which was an all-night affair where the copious food (excellent dishes!) just didn’t stop coming.

                  When I’m having a meal with my Indian friends, they tend to eat rather simple whereas I want more variety on my plate. This makes me feel a bit self-conscious and slightly embarrassed even.

                  And every now and then, they’re vegetarian or fasting. What this points to is that Malaysian Indians, particularly the poor ones, are not a demanding people. They don’t ask for much.

                  Therefore in the matter of the Hindu temples, I truly wish that our authorities will be more considerate and accommodating.

    1. Okay, let’s wait and see developments. We learned something new — that there is an African country with a 95 percent Christian population.

      I’ll wager not many of us were aware, prior to yesterday, where Angola is on the map.

      Now at least we know that Angola borders Namibia where “more than 90 percent identify themselves as Christian” while “Muslims, almost exclusively Sunni and comprising both citizens and foreign nationals, represent less than 1 percent of the population,”

      Zambia where “approximately 87 percent of the population is Christian”, with one percent Muslim,

      and the Democratic Republic of Congo where more than 85 percent of its citizens are Christian (Roman Catholic 55% & mainline Protestant 30%) plus a few other denominations. Muslims make up 5%.

      Source: http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/irf/2008/c26407.htm

      So it looks like Angola is nestled in the African Bible Belt.

  4. The Muslim uighurs in China are being oppressed by the Communist government in China, yet there is little or no coverage here. I wonder whether it is because China has invested a lot in Malaysia or to jaga sensitivity of the Malaysian Chinese community.

  5. one thing for sure the muslim are too weak.. that’s why everybody bullying them.. even muslim bullying muslim… memang jahanamlah.

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