106 thoughts on “Tinjauan pendapat: Adakah BN perlu pada undi Cina dalam PRU14?”
we chinese will continue to vote pr, except reject and nyonya.
Yes, HY. We want you Chinese to continue supporting DAP because that’s our strategy! But don’t come begging from us when you realize DAP does nothing for your race. Agree?
You could read from HY’s comment that he is under some kind of siege. But we must be ever vigilant.
Siege mentality…..sounds familiar. The other one who is said to have one was Singapore. Must be some common denominator there somewhere.
Aku Melayu. You are right. I urged them to vote BN as led by the UMNO with the 13 component parties. Now these Chinese, Malaysian Chinese are leaderless and 90% up a greasy pole of no return unlike their counterparts all round the World who always voted for the incumbent Governments including China. When we have tits like HY, we do not need anymore clowns.
re: “When we have tits like HY”
Uncle, some readers might mistake you for making sexually provocative remarks about the Madam Speaker’s anatomy.
Ms H. They will also think I am sexually provocative when I say I like your Blog. This is the wonderful power of the English language. A Rose is a Rose by any other name. A tit is a teat is a twit is a twerp by any other name.. IT SUCKS LIKE HY. He or she.
Re. A tit is a teat is a twit is a twerp by any other name
and a TART and a TROLLOP …lol
Re. We Chinese
Correction, it should read “We DAP Chinese…..”, as there are 5% pro-BN Chinese still around…
correct…
correct also
And you Kiasu Cinabeng DAPster type freaks.., can also go ‘Fly-Kite’..!
Inilah keindahan demokrasi di malaysia.. Anda boleh hidup selesa dengan pilihan anda.. Itu hak mutlak saudara.
Sampai Nyonya dia pun heret ke sini. Kalau India tak sokong Pakatan, tak hairan dia akan heret sama dengan kata kata kesat seperti India Keling.
Kita tunggu dan lihat sajalah.
HY. Good at least you support wholeheartedly the Malaysian Democratic system. And you little tit HY, you do not have to call others names, bully or use coarse words to do your slimy job.
Ah so, the oz reject HY will also vote BN then?
except reject and nyonya.
Very racist remark!
A resounding YES!
South Hill B Rat. Fantastic remark ! Acheh !
Both MCA and Gerakan under their new leadership should workout new strategies and approach to reach out positively to the Chinese community.
Although, the Malays and bumiputras votes will ensure BN victory in the PRU14, a two third majority could only be achieved if both MCA and Gerakan could secure at least between 25-30% Chinese votes.
Re. to reach out positively to the Chinese community.
Care to elaborate in what way?
At present the Cina wants UMNO head rolling and that’s the only answer, both MCA and Gerakan can’t deliver that.
Re. two third majority could only be achieved if both MCA and Gerakan could secure at least between 25-30% Chinese votes.
Not necessarily, there are 4 other possibilities..
1. UMNO encroaches into PAS strong holds and we have seen that in Kelantan;
2. ISMA contest in Pas strong holds and all current MCA constituencies;
3. PAS opts out from Pakatan;
4. A lesson learned from Chinese-Tsunami in PRU13 will inevitably lead to greater Malay-Tsunami with the help of ISMA and Perkasa;
With the exception of 3, the other 3 combination is lethal weapon.
It is the Chinese, the Malaysian Chinese who WILLED THEMSELVES OUT OF CONTENTION IN THE 13TH GENERAL ELECTIONS. Our beloved Malaysia’s political history is so short in time and yet so long in complexity that all these parachutists think it is just a game. IT IS NOT AND ONLY LIKE YOU AND ME CAN EXPLAIN THE WHEREWITHAL OF EVERYONE’S EXISTENCE.(and it takes a long time to do so). Because of this, these greenhorns or nimcompoops are bound to fail. Akan datang !
Sir, these 2 lots of Chinese, Malaysian Chinese will never be able to resolve the DILEMMA OF THE CHINESE as they are responsible for their existing plight. Politics is a LIFE LONG SACRIFICE AND ENDEAVOUR. With these greenhorn parachutists possessing a glib tongue and a quick turn of the brain, they will go nowhere. AND UNDERQUALIFIED TOO.
Even though our beloved country, Malaysia is short in history but long in its political complexitiesm like TDM, if a person knows how to rule Malaysia, it is straightforward. But if that secret formula is forgotten or lost in the fray, Malaysia with its diverse communities seems like a many headed Malaysian cobra.
We malays do not thrust chinese anymore and forever except but we accepted chinese like dr ridwan tee and prof kho
Iskandar Yahaya. I do not blame you for your misgivings/sentiments given the conduct of the very weak political leaderships of the Chinese, Malaysian Chinese on both sides of the political divide, if any ! They were not ACTUALLY DOING A PROPER POLITICAL JOB AS BEFITS A DIVERSE NATION. Maybe they thought about Oz or Singapore more !
NO – malay
YES – chinese, obviously
who cares – Indians
ROTFL
PRU14.
BN menang lagi. 5 tahun lagi. Cina akan ulang slogan yang sama. Habislah Malaysia. Kita mesti hijrah.
Dah berulang kali kita dengar slogan ni. Tiap tiap kali BN menang, mereka akan kata Habislah Malaysia tapi sehingga kini berapa ramai orang Cina yang sudah berhijrah ?
Saya tak nafi, memang ada orang Cina yang telah berhijrah ke Australia, ke New Zealand, ke Amerika tapi jumlah mereka tak ramai. Pada kebiasaannya orang yang akan berhijrah tak akan kata dengan terbuka mereka akan berhijrah.
Memang benar tong kosong kuat berbunyi. Yang jerit dengan kuat slogan Habislah Malaysia BN Menang Lagi Kena Hijrah, golongan ni tak akan hijrah. Mereka ni setakat bising saja.
Pakatan Puak Pembohong. You are right. The BN as led by the UMNO with the 13 component parties will win again in the PRU 14. No doubt about it. And the Chinese, Malaysian Chinese become masochistic again ???
Re: NO – malay
YES – chinese, obviously
who cares – Indians
Exactly. It makes no difference.
What does it matter to the Indians if BN needs Chinese votes or if PR needs Malay votes or who wins in GE14 for that matter?
Both are unconscionably and obscenely greedy for power (and its spoils) and will ensure that the Indian majority remains at the lowest rung of society (in hypocritically blatant contradiction of the principles of fairness and equality bragged about in some Abrahamic religions).
Damned right.
Who cares.
You voted in my poll already? ,)
Of course. Who cares. :)
Re. will ensure that the Indian majority remains at the lowest rung of society
but among you community, you also have caste system though that obvious anymore here, it is there…plus the rich, educated, professional, and Christian ( Abrahamic religions) among you, have also abandoned the Hindu and the poor in your community.
Re. Who cares
Najib Nambikei has admitted the fact that BN has failed the Indian community but when are your community going to wake up and start to do self-reflecting in order to move forward.
Re: but among you community, you also have caste system though that obvious anymore here, it is there…plus the rich, educated, professional, and Christian ( Abrahamic religions) among you, have also abandoned the Hindu and the poor in your community.
The caste system within the Indian community is real but the effect is now confined to microinteractions. Networking for social advancement is across the board.
The rich UMNO Malays however, continue to shun their poorer brethren. The Chinese have their own class (wealth) based caste system and yet the government bends over backwards to satisfy both these communities – because they are the power brokers and major economic and political stakeholders.
A responsible government’s duty is to make sure that no community, no matter how small, a minority is discriminated or marginalised in any way.
What has internal discrimination got to do with a government’s entrusted duty?
What a shallow, puerile excuse for discriminating against Indians. Only an opportunistic, condescending UMNO mindset could come up with something like that.
I have been telling Indians whom I meet that we can no longer afford to have political dependencies. Representation, yes but not outright trust or reliance. Giving nambikei (trust) or loyalty to either BN or PR will only result in our continued disunity and downfall. History has shown us enough of that.
FYI, the Indian community has already began to move forward (minus caste considerations) – without fair treatment and despite the admittedly deliberate failure of the government AND despite the apparent persecution (i.e. denial of essential educational rights, especially at tertiary level, destruction of temples and blatant disrespect for our faith aimed at demoralising our community, unsupported displacement of rural communities and the subsequent victimisation – eg forced conversions, disproportionate number of extra judicial killings and deaths in detention etc).
I may not agree with some of you points, but I like your comment. This is what we want to hear from the Indian community.
You story may be confined within your circle only, you should write a column in Indian news paper for reach out purpose minus blaming UMNO/BN… while that’s is your prerogative the blaming game won’t give positive vibes to your community plus you need UMNO/BN support at macro level.
I know for a fact that the Indian Muslim community are very successfully plus they have a strong network.
Re: I know for a fact that the Indian Muslim community are very successfully plus they have a strong network.
Of course they’re successful. Not a few of them belong to and hold important positions in a very strong network called United Mamaks National Organisation.
ROTFL….. see what you can get when you are nice to the MALAYS….
If Najib stays as BN head, then BN will need Chinese votes coz the Malay votes will stop coming. A lot of Malays are fed-up with Najib (not BN).
If BN got a new capable leader that can show finger to racist DAP, then they will not need Chinese votes. Malays will rally behind BN becoz we don’t want to be governed by communist and gangsters like in Penang and Selangor.
Ahli2 Parlimen Melayu/Bumiputera di Parlimen skrg berjumlah 160. 2/3 majoriti hanya perlu 148 kerusi.
kalau UMNO+PAS dan mereka memenangi kerusi2 PKR, UMNO tak perlu undi China.
Isu di sini Melayu perlu bersatu bagi menyedari China ‘hardcore’ DAP. tp adakah baik untuk masadepan Malaysia jika Melayu/Bumiputera shj berkuasa?
skrg ni tak de wakil MCA dlm kabinet pun, kepentingan dan keperluan org2 China dijaga oleh BN bukannya DAP. kalau ramai China mcm Helen,Lee Lam Thye,Ling Liong Sik alangkah indah dan harmoninya hidup di Malaysia.
RCZ. Good logic and reasoning. Gentlemanly ?
BN memang tidak Peru undi Cina, sudah Banyak kali diulangi terutamanya pada presidingan UMNO.
lama tak komen … kalau BN @ UMNO bijak patutnya mereka dah rancang strategi dan gerakkan kerja untuk tentukan tanpa undi cina mereka boleh still berkuasa …. tapi kalau najib masih nak bergantung pada consultant2 yg dodoikan dia dengan lagu2 mendayu2 tu tak tau la ….
Helen, the chinese already said it clearly they dont need BN, so the answer is in Newton’s law “For every action ,there is an equal and opposite reaction”.
So helen , sudah terang lagi meyuluh.
kpanjang. Maybe the BN Government as led by the UMNO with the 13 component parties take a leaf out of the British (HY where are you ?) on how to rule the Chinese in colonial times.
1. Send police cadres to Swatow, Canton, Xiamen for 6 months to study these Southern Chinese,
2. Set up a Protectorate for the Chinese at the entrance to each Chinatown.complete with a British Protector. The Office in KL is still there.
3. The British used to banish the recalcitrant Chinese back to China without trial. HY will jump out of the window on this ! But it is a fact. And we should not erase history.
4. The British banned all Chinese political activity.
does DAP need malays vote for GE 14?
pemimpin DAP memang perasan hebat sekarang. Angkuh dan sombong.
Same like you, we malay will continue to vote for BN except this time around we will mobilise our family, no more take for granted,
Halim. The UMNO is fast becoming an icon of Malaysia.
The Malay Muslim Native community will comprise 69% of the population by 2020, from 2010’s 67%.
Focus on this group. 69% by 2020. Take good care of this group. Look after the interest of this group.
The rest will become increasingly insignificant.
BN listen. Take a leaf from the Democrats. They won 2 elections by focusing on the Hispanic and Colored people because these 2 groups of peoples are the rising demographics of the USA.
Survivor,
More importantly, UMNO especially UMNO must shed its “tdak apa ” attitude’.
Do not take comfort with facts that the percentage of Malays keep increasing. More importantly, we should look whether the percentage of Malay voters are increasing or instead decreasing in many constituents.
Take a look. Percentage of Malay voters are DECREASING in Pandan, Ampang, Shah Alam, Rembau, Gelang Patah, Balik Pulau, Hulu Kelang.
HOW? BECAUSE the powers to be allow expensive housing areas built on many consituents that effectively beyond the reach of majority Malays.
Ms H. I have always urged the Chinese, the Malaysian Chinese to vote for the BN as led by the UMNO with the 13 component parties. Malaysia is the only country in the whole wide world of the Chinese in which they voted en bloc against the incumbent Government against their traditional and conventional practices. This shows how outside interference with their domestic politics ad nauseam has swayed these ignorant and innocent minds that it is not in their best interests if ever to vote against a Government in which they are inhabitiants.
As I always said also some Chinese are so very clever as to be stupid. This lot of Chinese, the Malaysian Chinese have they really asked themselves whether their current political leadership is CREDIBLE, EDUCATED AND TRUSTWORTHY to lead them in these difficult times which these leaders have created for the MALAYSIAN CHINESE COMMUNITY AT LARGE but not for themselves.
The Chinese in Thailand are very patriotic. They oppose the Thaksin regime because they know the Thaksin regime is a Wall Street Puppet Regime yet in Malaysia, the Chinese support the Pakatan Gang who is well known for being intimately connected with the Wall Street Banksters. That really tells us something about the Chinese in Thailand and Malaysia.
In Thailand, the Siamese do not blame the Chinese for everything. In Thailand religion value never being forced on the non Siamese unlike in Malaysia. See what happen in Southern Thailand, the Muslim is always having conflict with the Siamese, are you saying that those Malay are not patriotic towards the Siamese gov?
In Thailand, the Chinese assimilated willingly into Thai society, so your contention that the Siamese never forced them into accepting Thai religion and culture is a big lie. Why forced someone when that someone has already decided that it is better that he adopts the religion and culture of another person ?
But in Malaysia, we have the opposite. The Chinese, even after 5 decades of independence, they still insist on having their vernacular schools, still reject the overtures of the Malays.
If you want to lie, think carefully. Oh by the way, I happen to monitor Stop The Lies. You have been making a lot of mischief there lately. Don’t believe me ? Go there, look at what you have been up to over there.
Yes I totally agree with you but UMNO have missed the opportunity to assimilate the non Malay decades ago. This is why the Siamese is having the same problem with their Malay so can you say those Malay are not patriotic towards the Siamese gov? BTW I don’t visit that “StopThe Lies” blog. It is a different person.
Re Yes I totally agree with you but UMNO have missed the opportunity to assimilate the non Malay decades ago.
Now had Umno forced the Chinese to assimilate the non Malays back then, no doubt, you will accuse the Malays of racism.
See. You keep spinning.
It works both way, if UMNO wants to practice raced based politic, racism will be answered by racism. Don’t expect the non Malay to take the allegation day in and day out and hoping them to support UMNO.
DAP don’t really get their support by their effort, it is UMNO who push the non Malay away towards DAP. Helping non Malay to become billionaire does not works because average non Malay do not get help from rich tycoons as the Malays from the gov.
You sound like a broken record, spinning yet repeating the same lies over and over again. You really saying DAP innocent as an angel?
I would not blame the chinese masses. They are just gullible for believing in DAP’s promises of conquering putrajaya….of course the mob can get carried away once their sentiments are fanned vigorously with insidious hatred filled bombastic DAP’s propaganda.
Malaysian,
“…It is UMNO…”
No. The opposite is the truth. At height of its power, UMNO stands firm on principle of political cooperation with non Malays. Had UMNO wanted to(as per your allegation), It would simply bulldoze on the Chinese then.
The truth is Chinese supported DAP en bloc as they felt this time around(PRU13) UMNO will “tumbang”. So “mesmerized” by DAP and supported by useless Malay politicians like Anwar, Chinese was taken for a ride.
What they ignore is the “elephant on the room”; Malay voters. The chinese, as seldom they mix with Malays beyond casual greeting did not realise that Malays saw something fishy about “ini kalilah”. To many of them,the slogan is mere facade for DAP to whip anti Malay sentiment IN ORDER TO GAIN POLITICAL POWER.
That not surprisingly has the opposite effect. It brought Malay closer to UMNO. Ever wonder why UMNO captured Kedah and made inroad to Kelantan? Not out of love. It was out of fear.
malaysian. There were 3 occasions when the Chinese, Malaysian Chinese could have sorted out their CHINESE DILEMMA. eg. In 1957, 1970 and 2004. They failed because of their very weak political leadership. Why ? With a beautiful hindsight, you may now observe their leaders were only community leaders and NOT POLITICIANS. Why ? Because the whole lot of their leaders were uneducated in the world at large in public affairs of the highest order.
bukan gang leaders ka?
kampong lad. Hmm !
Re. In Thailand, the Siamese do not blame the Chinese for everything
In Thailand the Chinese has lost their Chinese identity, you can never tell them apart from the local Thais, just like in Indonesia.
Be thankful that we don’t force on you here in this country.
Re. In Thailand religion value never being forced on the non Siamese unlike in Malaysia.
When did the last time the people from Jabatan Agama Islam knocks on your door and force you to embrace Islam or stop you from eating pork etc.
Re. the Muslim is always having conflict with the Siamese,
Both parties are Siamese, the conflict is between Muslim and Buddhist. Please read the news and stories, it started when the Thai army enforced/attacked the Muslim\s in the areas.
Both parties are Malaysian, the conflict is between the UMNO Malay and Pakatan, UMNO Malay dragging this into racial problem. Please read the news and stories, it started when the UMNO Malay raising the keris and ‘threatening’ the non Malay.
And the non Malays, during Himpunan Hijau said Balik kampung Tanam Jagung. I must admit that you are one big liar.
Prior to May 13 racial riot, orang Cina dengan angkuh dan sombongnya dalam perarakan menghalau orang Melayu dengan berkata “ORANG MELAYU BALIK KAMPONG. INI KUALA LUMPUR ORANG CINA PUNYA”. My late dad (BTW half-Chinese) experienced this incident first hand as he was living with his parents in Kampong Datuk Keramat and often related to us this incident. He joined with other Malays at Harun Idris’ home in Kampong Baru.
It is true that Lim Kit [Siang] was the instigator. Eventhough Dr Kua tried to rewrite history by denying LKS’s involvement but the Malays do not buy his bluff. Now his son, the Iguana is taking over and we shall see where it will lead to.
ROTFL….
Follow the program will you…
Itulah kalau kata MABUK TODI nanti Helen akan minus 10 points. Please read back your earlier comment….
You sound so desperate up the point you just say anything for the sake of commenting.
To response to crap, you must decent to their level otherwise they will be confused.
But then you overshot and descended to the level way, way below them. And now you are stuck, not able to come back up. Well, why don’t you just stay put down there amongst the sewage and save yourselves the trouble of having to struggle out of the cesspool. Hehehe
Re, you must decent to their level otherwise they will be confused.
ROTFL.. you yourself are already crap to the core… there is no bottom of it anymore… just read all others’ comments wrt your crap…
Kesian kan kau….
Here is how the Thai Chinese pays their respect to the Thai Monarch..
Helen can you help me to print the pic, if it is not too much to ask for…
Wow.. The Siamese government treat you Chinese very very good..
I’m sure you have Chinese school there??
I’m sure you can speak chinese fluently and doesn’t care to speak siamese..
I’m sure you still can use your chinese name instead of using siamese name..
The Dictator. Excellent comment and observation. You are absolutely correct. I was in the middle of the Bangkok National Stadium in 1966 and the patriotism of the Thais moved me to tears when they sang their National Anthem. And now we have this lot of Chinese, the Malaysian Chinese who voted against an incumbent Government, 90% of them. And sadly, no where else in the World including China, do the Chinese do this.
re: “the Malaysian Chinese who voted against an incumbent Government, 90% of them. And sadly, no where else in the World including China, do the Chinese do this”
The blacks in USA voted 95% for Obama. Tak rugi pun (i.e. the candidate whom they backed successfully clinched the election).
Re The blacks in USA voted 95% for Obama. Tak rugi pun (i.e. the candidate whom they backed successfully clinched the election).
The black President is not black after all. Just listen to the manner in which he lectures the black community, like a white man giving a lecture, and the black community continues to worship him as some sort of savior.
re: “The black President is not black after all. Just listen to the manner in which he lectures the black community, like a white man giving a lecture, and the black community continues to worship him as some sort of savior.”
The “Chinese chauvinist” politicians in DAP 3.0 are not ‘Chinese’ after all. Just listen to the manner in which they scold everyone as “low class”, like a white man/woman giving a lecture, and the Chinese oppo community continues to worship them as some sort of savior to lead them out of the “wicked BN”, “evil Umno” clutches.
The Singaporean Trojan Horse DAP sat for 47 long years doing nothing for the Malays, the Chinese, Indians and all. Recently, Its leadership assured their supporters including the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew that they have only to wait 5 more years, making a total of 52 years with no guarantee of success. And the much vaunted Chinese Malaysian Chinese voted for the DAP without taking notice of the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew/s 14 failed Policies for Singapore, their spiritual leader and spiritual homeland ? It sucks !
The International Jew. You are right again. With the fantastic media within our reach we see and think about what used to be our distant icons more clearly. And respect those at home more DEARLY!
The Chinese voted 90% for BN en bloc in past election as well saving the UMNO from being dethroned without being offered any carrot but they are not being thanked and Chinese never ask apa Melayu mau? It is possible the non Malay will vote BN again 90% en bloc if UMNO tone down their racial element.
re: “The Chinese voted 90% for BN en bloc in past election”
Oh really? Where’s your data?
re: “It is possible the non Malay will vote BN again 90% en bloc if UMNO tone down their racial element.”
Hahahaha, when it snows in Subang Jaya.
No need for votes from DAP chinese. UMNO’s racial element, if any, only in response to DAP highly charged racist rantings and screamings.
Didn’t I tell you all that he is getting desperado…
malaysian. Of course, you are right, the Chinese Malaysian Chinese will vote without any doubt 90% for the BN as led by the UMNO with the 13 component parties PROVIDED THE BN LEADERSHIP REMEMBERS WHAT MADE THE BN BEFORE 2003 CLICKED. After 2003, the fabled power pyramid was forgotten and replaced by THE PANDORA’S BOX !!! Hence, we have butterflies in all our stomachs every day so to speak !
Malaysian,
“…as well as saving UMNO…”.
I am not so sure about that. Even at best result that BN achieved, Chinese had never given more than 50% support to BN.
So, actually Chinese votes are over emphasized. Even Malay leaders until PRU13 made stupid mistakes by saying chinese are kingmaker(on election).
No. The King Makers on last election are ” makcik makcik dan pakcik pakcik serta orang Melayu yang selalunya diam saja”.
Had not for them, UMNO had already “bungkus”. I must say that their “jasa” to UMNO is just huge. They are on the ground and keep reminding Malays to think life without UMNO LONG BEFORE NAJIB uttered the word on UMNO General ASSEMBLY.
I once watched a simple discussion in front of a surau. A ‘lebai” after hearing so many negatives vibes about UMNO from a number of men after Isya prayers asked them to think about Malays should UMNO no longer there.
Suddenly the lively debate became quiet. And I still remember what he said, ” Orang Arab 100 tahun dulu jika diberi pilihan mahukah Kerajaan Osman atau Yahudi?”.
That sentence triggered serious thinking. What the lebai was saying is that we are all should be careful of what we wish for.
It is because these kind of UMNO members that UMNO still remain relevant in Malay community They are the link between UMNO and Malay masses. No doubt Malays are too critical towards UMNO, Najib and his failure to tap the Malay mood.
FOR MALAYSIAN to say that Chinese helped UMNO from being dethroned is misrepresentation of facts. The truth is that UMNO keeps winning simply because it is able to earn the lion share of Malay votes. No doubt Chinese votes did help but not to level of saving UMNO from being dethroned.
It is simple math. To wrest Putrajaya, any political party must get the lion share of the largest etnic group; the Malays.
In last election, UMNO I can say won by “default”. But malays may not be that charitable in coming election.
With due respect to you Helen.., but I must say that you must be one naive blogger with regard to international or foreign politics..
Regardless how the blacks had voted in the US elections, but it is those damn Zionists (masquerading as Jewish power) that decide beforehand who becomes the President of The USA. For all we know, if those damn Zionists wants a monkey to be the US President, then it shall be so.
Dr. Ron Paul (Republican), Dennis Kucinich (Democrat) or the black Cynthia McKinney (the George Galloway of USA) are all decent candidates worthy of being the US President. However, you should know by now who are those that literally have full control of the economy as well as the political power of The USA. And here’s the proof (in jest) as per the YouTube video below:-
Thus, those decent & worthy politicians in the likes of Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich or Cynthia McKinney shall have a ghost of a chance in becoming the US President, as long as those damn Zionist freaks control all the shots as elucidated by the comedian George Carlin.
For you information, that ‘black’ US President (Barack Obama) was put there by those damn Zionists even though he was a mere greenhorn politician from Chicago who is a mere puppet for those damn Zionists. So much so for the so-called ‘most democratic nation’ on earth.., i.e. The USA.
You must learn to accept the fact that Barack Obama is nothing more than a mere puppet President of those damn Zionists to do the bidding of that lunatic state of Zionist-Israel. And here’s the proof as per the YouTube video below:-
Re. For you information, that ‘black’ US President (Barack Obama) was put there by those damn Zionists
He was put there to inherit the sinking ship left by Bush Junior with USD7 trillion dollar deficits due to largely war in Iraq on the ground of Weapon of Mass Destruction (WMD).
The same reason why they put Collin Powell as the first Black Secretary of State in 2001 and followed by Condoliza Rice in 2004. The African Americans are so proud of the two appointment but not realizing that the two are to be the scapegoat of their Iraq Invasion should anything went wrong which it did as there is no WMD.
LOL..,
In the words of Malcolm-X.., there are 2 type of Negroes in the USA.., i.e. the ‘House Negro’ and the ‘Field Negro’ as elaborated in the YouTube video here:-
Therefore.., General Colin Powell and Condaleeza Rice are nothing more than mere ‘House Niggas’ in full action.
However, Barack Obama is not merely a ‘House Nigga’. He is now the Master of The White House but in reality he is a puppet of those evil Zionist Globalists.
Despite being a black man himself, ironically way back in 2008 he did not necessarily desire the votes of all the Black Community in the USA because of certain pressure exerted upon him by his political handlers (i.e. Zionist-Jewish political masters) to reject & denounce the political support from some of the Black community (i.e. from the Nation of Islam) led by Mr. Louis Farakhan as displayed in the YouTube video below:-
Clearly.., this ‘House Nigga’ attribute as displayed by Barack Obama to seal his position into The White House is so apparent.
How is it then that such a Black man in the likes of Barack Obama reject and denounce his own kind (the Blacks) from a Black minority group? When the leader of such minority group (Louis Farakhan) dares to speak the truth and who calls a spade, a spade, as displayed in the YouTube below:-
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Thus.., dubbing Barack Obama as being a scapegoat for any folly that happens to USA is quite an understatement. When one submits oneself to be the pawn of the Devil for worldly fame or fortune, then one must be prepared to face the ugly consequence of one’s own nasty destruction. Let’s see what shall be the fate of Barack Obama.
Good one bro.
With continued victimization of the Shias & now Wahabbis in Malaysia, how will UMNO lock-up more Malay voters in GE14?
There’s estimated 1 million Shias & tens of thousands Wahabbis, mostly in establishment ranks. Alot whom been in Malaysia since 1400 years ago when Islam arrived with traders from Middle-East, Gujarat, Yemen etc. Even the name origins of Tongkat Ali & Kacip Fatimah are Shia.
With Kalimah Allah issue unsettled, the Sarawak/Sabah Bumiputra Christians are still in flux. With Taib Mahmud aging in decline by GE14, his feudal hold over Sarawak Bumiputras will be less effective in coralling the votes. Plus the soon-to-be appointed new Catholic church leadership will be more aggressive with the resignation of Pakiam Murphy recently.
Also now, i have the feeling the post-hikes of electricity, petrol, toll, GST etc will badly squeeze the cost of living among working-class, middle-class Malays. The full tsunami price effect will be felt by 2016, as GST implementation will be mid-2015.
Perkasa, ISMA have no traction on economic issues of rising inflation and cost-of-living. PAS will consolidate their ground come GE14, as now lots of PAS leaders are talking more on economic issues which they have always been uncomfortable in the past.
So it’s interesting to watch how the sentiments will settle by 2016.
On a side note in my home state, there’s serious talks of Vincent Tan (Dr Mahathir’s proxy) and the Royalty pushing to finalize soon for big casino theme park development in Iskandar.
This will capture huge economic spendings of punters and tourists currently flocking to Singapore’s two casinos as well as those going to Genting Highlands, Pahang.
Plus, recently the Royalty has been making a lot of big land deals with China developers to start development projects in the state, especially for overseas buyers. It will benefit the state economically but will the working-class, middle-class Malays on the ground see it that way?! That’s interesting question too…
~ Anak Pasir Gudang
This is the perfect example that illustrate my point. The elites (regardless of race) are all abang adik looking after each other. Raced based policy is used as front to protect their wealth leaving us the middle class, low class and no class citizen fighting each other for racial pride.
Please show us which comment(s) that you are referring to and in which entry. Frankly I have not seen that or I may have missed it…
To start with one must have a brain to contribute intellectually and not taking credit for other people’s idea or point of view.
your blog is the best Helen..keep it up!!
Hear ye! hear ye!
I second and third and …… it.
Speak for yourself, please. Not all Chinese are super loyal fans of PR, ok.
Nor are we all dyed-in-the-wool BN haters either.
It may surprise you that our voting strategy has very little to do with whom I like or dislike. The ultimate choice comes down to who presents a modern, intelligent, compassionate and moral outlook to guide this country of ours into the future. Sad to say, such candidates are few and far between on both sides. Or they’re there but hidden from view, overshadowed by the flamboyant career politician types with too many skeletons in their closet.
Curmudgeon of 72. We all actualy do not hate each other definitely not before puberty. The Swiss say snide remarks about each other. They have 4 different tribes, the Germans, the French, the Italians and the Romansch (those guys who deserted the Roman Legions and holed up in the high Swiss Alps for 2,000 years) In front of foreigners, the Swiss keep a united front. They have been quarreling amongst each other for 800 years since their Confederation and still at it. This is the reason why the Swiss have a National Referendum on every small issue.
Aiyooo…getting sick of all this Chinese bashing lah. Ungrateful la, traitorous la, etc etc. So much hatred against the Chinese just because they exercised their democratic right to vote against the incumbent government?
If they’re perceived as racist because of this, its only because UMNO has been just that all along. Twist and turn as much as you like but UMNO’s plan for racial supremacy is undeniable. Maybe the Chinese had just about enough of it after more than fifty long years.
The fact remains that without the Chinese, regardless if they’re pro BN or pro PR/DAP, this country would not be where it is today, economically. Their contributions to every other aspect of nation-building are also invaluable.
UMNO, the Malays and Malaysia itself have benefited a great deal from them (the Chinese even pay the most taxes).
Why are most Malays here ungrateful for this?
Anjua?
Che Debt,
If I may add, why are we still bashing certain community for practising their constitutional right to vote? If a person is bashed for voting certain party, then the democratic right to vote is meaningless.
Putting that aside, election has ended and the next one will come in 4 years time. We can continue bashing for the sake of bashing. Meanwhile, my immediate concern now is the rising cost of living due to the price hike of many items and services.
Helen, perhaps you can start an article on the cost of living/inflation and invite commenters to share their opinions on how to reduce the impact and save money.
Thanks.
Hehehe..,
You must one sick dude or a spin-master in uttering:-
“…The fact remains that without the Chinese, regardless if they’re pro BN or pro PR/DAP, this country would not be where it is today, economically…”
The Chinese are the ones who had economically benefitted wholesomely & handsomely due to the accommodating nature of the Malays & Bumiputras prior and after the Merdeka Days. This is an undeniable fact.
Till this day we can clearly see the economic benefits that the Chinese had amassed and enjoyed if we merely take a look and notice of the multitude of business premises in any city or town in Malaysia that are owned and operated by the Chinese.
Clearly again, those Chinese industrialists, entrepreneurs and business persons are far from being genuinely & honestly willing to share their skills & knowledge in business or enterprise with the Malays & Bumiputras for sake of economic equilibrium of the nation. Apparently, most of them would prefer to culminate the ‘Ali-Baba’ business concept.with the Bumiputras for donkey years now. The Chinese would prefer to ‘make use’ of the Bumiputras to achieve their business & economic end rather than helping & working together with Bumiputras to achieve a mutual benefit between the races..
However, be advised that the greatest contribution ever to the rapid progress of Malaysia’s economy was not that of the Chinese. It was actually a God-given contribution, i.e.. the discovery of petroleum & natural-gas fields in the early 1970’s that had culminated in the formation of Petronas. The Chinese portion in tax contribution for the development of the nation is for sure simply dwarfed by the by God-given contribution of petroleum & natural-gas to Malaysia as exemplified via Petronas.
So.., fools like you should not – ‘Sendiri masuk bakul dan sendiri mau angkat’. Understand..!?
Re. “…The fact remains that without the Chinese, regardless if they’re pro BN or pro PR/DAP, this country would not be where it is today, economically…”
How convenient, prior to Tun M taking over from Tun Hussein Onn, the Chinese concurred the biggest cut of the economic pie since they have inherited the infrastructures already available in the big cities where their population are largely located, business skill and business network among their community. They controlled the whole supply chain.
In early 1980s or so the Gomen under Tun M introduced Amanah Saham Nasional (ASN) specifically for Bumiputera with 1000% guarantee returns in 10 years with minimum investment or RM10.
Startingwith ASN, Tun M started proton and invest more and more on Bumiputera education where they are sent abroad, the look east policy was also introduced. In the mid 1980’s the North South highway was built, Jambatan Pulau Pinang and few other big projects. FDI especially from Japan started pouring in and since then, it is no stopping us.
One day in early 1990’s I think, Many Bumiputera woke up to their biggest surprise as their ASN account has increased to 10 folds including my parents.
Tell me Che Debt,
where in the timeline did the Chinese contribute to the said success. The Chinese has been greedy and selfish all along that’s why Tun M didn’t include them in the earlier phase of the transformation….
Re: …the Chinese concurred the biggest cut of the economic pie since they have inherited the infrastructures already available in the big cities where their population are largely located…
Of course they deserved the biggest cut of the economic pie.
They earned it (they actually worked for it). Got a problem with that?
Big cities?
Who do you think founded Kuala Lumpur? Mat Kilau?
As usual you fellas will say any damn thing to justify your racism and lay claim to the success of the nation.
Even to the extent of denying the undeniable.
Just like the DAP Chinese.
You’re freaking delusional just like the DAP Chinese who actually believe their own lies.
I tend to agree with Hafiz Ahmad who asks. “Are Malays out of their minds?”
He says: Malays are living in the state of delusion. They cannot differentiate between the real problems happening to them and the delusional ones.
Yes. BN does. It’s the Chinese who feel that they don’t need BN.
It doesn’t make any difference now whether the onslaught against the Chinese continues or not. Whatever it has accomplished, it already has. Whatever it did not, will not. Although some apparently enjoys the therapeutic effects.
I doubt the Chinese would show the same level of enthusiasm come next GE… whatever is done, cannot be undone.
re: “whatever is done, cannot be undone”
The trust is broken.
If MCA candidates are put to stand in Malay-majority areas, Isma will step in with full force as third party candidates. Also the pro-establishment Malays will no longer vote for MCA or Gerakan candidates anymore in GE14.
Dr M saw this when he issued his Gelang Patah caution about “the end of kongsi”.
Dr. M is right.. my (also my family) very bad experience in Gelang patah change everything.. racist!! that’s me..
Me too. An ultra-Malay and a racist to the core!
Ms H. I have discovered that most Chinese Malaysian Chinese subconciously want a Malay or an Indian or all to be like them. As soon as I explained that we cannot be like a Malay or an Indian and all, their brainwashed minds cleared up and understood why some Malaysians behaved differently from them. THIS IS A MALAYSIAN CHINESE POLITICIANS JOB, NOT OUR JOB. Now we know that they were paid handsomely to do this JOB WHICH THEY DID NOT. It is the weak political leadership of the Malaysian Chinese.
Re: Ms H. I have discovered that most Chinese Malaysian Chinese subconciously want a Malay or an Indian or all to be like them.
Unker AK47, so do the Malays.
Why do you think we have Saidina Umar Lim Abdul Aziz and Hasnah Yeop and the Selendang Squad?
Helen Ang 
we chinese will continue to vote pr, except reject and nyonya.
Yes, HY. We want you Chinese to continue supporting DAP because that’s our strategy! But don’t come begging from us when you realize DAP does nothing for your race. Agree?
You could read from HY’s comment that he is under some kind of siege. But we must be ever vigilant.
Siege mentality…..sounds familiar. The other one who is said to have one was Singapore. Must be some common denominator there somewhere.
Aku Melayu. You are right. I urged them to vote BN as led by the UMNO with the 13 component parties. Now these Chinese, Malaysian Chinese are leaderless and 90% up a greasy pole of no return unlike their counterparts all round the World who always voted for the incumbent Governments including China. When we have tits like HY, we do not need anymore clowns.
re: “When we have tits like HY”
Uncle, some readers might mistake you for making sexually provocative remarks about the Madam Speaker’s anatomy.
Ms H. They will also think I am sexually provocative when I say I like your Blog. This is the wonderful power of the English language. A Rose is a Rose by any other name. A tit is a teat is a twit is a twerp by any other name.. IT SUCKS LIKE HY. He or she.
Re. A tit is a teat is a twit is a twerp by any other name
and a TART and a TROLLOP …lol
Re. We Chinese
Correction, it should read “We DAP Chinese…..”, as there are 5% pro-BN Chinese still around…
correct…
correct also
And you Kiasu Cinabeng DAPster type freaks.., can also go ‘Fly-Kite’..!
Inilah keindahan demokrasi di malaysia.. Anda boleh hidup selesa dengan pilihan anda.. Itu hak mutlak saudara.
Sampai Nyonya dia pun heret ke sini. Kalau India tak sokong Pakatan, tak hairan dia akan heret sama dengan kata kata kesat seperti India Keling.
Kita tunggu dan lihat sajalah.
HY. Good at least you support wholeheartedly the Malaysian Democratic system. And you little tit HY, you do not have to call others names, bully or use coarse words to do your slimy job.
Ah so, the oz reject HY will also vote BN then?
except reject and nyonya.
Very racist remark!
A resounding YES!
South Hill B Rat. Fantastic remark ! Acheh !
Both MCA and Gerakan under their new leadership should workout new strategies and approach to reach out positively to the Chinese community.
Although, the Malays and bumiputras votes will ensure BN victory in the PRU14, a two third majority could only be achieved if both MCA and Gerakan could secure at least between 25-30% Chinese votes.
Re. to reach out positively to the Chinese community.
Care to elaborate in what way?
At present the Cina wants UMNO head rolling and that’s the only answer, both MCA and Gerakan can’t deliver that.
Re. two third majority could only be achieved if both MCA and Gerakan could secure at least between 25-30% Chinese votes.
Not necessarily, there are 4 other possibilities..
1. UMNO encroaches into PAS strong holds and we have seen that in Kelantan;
2. ISMA contest in Pas strong holds and all current MCA constituencies;
3. PAS opts out from Pakatan;
4. A lesson learned from Chinese-Tsunami in PRU13 will inevitably lead to greater Malay-Tsunami with the help of ISMA and Perkasa;
With the exception of 3, the other 3 combination is lethal weapon.
It is the Chinese, the Malaysian Chinese who WILLED THEMSELVES OUT OF CONTENTION IN THE 13TH GENERAL ELECTIONS. Our beloved Malaysia’s political history is so short in time and yet so long in complexity that all these parachutists think it is just a game. IT IS NOT AND ONLY LIKE YOU AND ME CAN EXPLAIN THE WHEREWITHAL OF EVERYONE’S EXISTENCE.(and it takes a long time to do so). Because of this, these greenhorns or nimcompoops are bound to fail. Akan datang !
Sir, these 2 lots of Chinese, Malaysian Chinese will never be able to resolve the DILEMMA OF THE CHINESE as they are responsible for their existing plight. Politics is a LIFE LONG SACRIFICE AND ENDEAVOUR. With these greenhorn parachutists possessing a glib tongue and a quick turn of the brain, they will go nowhere. AND UNDERQUALIFIED TOO.
Even though our beloved country, Malaysia is short in history but long in its political complexitiesm like TDM, if a person knows how to rule Malaysia, it is straightforward. But if that secret formula is forgotten or lost in the fray, Malaysia with its diverse communities seems like a many headed Malaysian cobra.
We malays do not thrust chinese anymore and forever except but we accepted chinese like dr ridwan tee and prof kho
Iskandar Yahaya. I do not blame you for your misgivings/sentiments given the conduct of the very weak political leaderships of the Chinese, Malaysian Chinese on both sides of the political divide, if any ! They were not ACTUALLY DOING A PROPER POLITICAL JOB AS BEFITS A DIVERSE NATION. Maybe they thought about Oz or Singapore more !
NO – malay
YES – chinese, obviously
who cares – Indians
ROTFL
PRU14.
BN menang lagi. 5 tahun lagi. Cina akan ulang slogan yang sama. Habislah Malaysia. Kita mesti hijrah.
Dah berulang kali kita dengar slogan ni. Tiap tiap kali BN menang, mereka akan kata Habislah Malaysia tapi sehingga kini berapa ramai orang Cina yang sudah berhijrah ?
Saya tak nafi, memang ada orang Cina yang telah berhijrah ke Australia, ke New Zealand, ke Amerika tapi jumlah mereka tak ramai. Pada kebiasaannya orang yang akan berhijrah tak akan kata dengan terbuka mereka akan berhijrah.
Memang benar tong kosong kuat berbunyi. Yang jerit dengan kuat slogan Habislah Malaysia BN Menang Lagi Kena Hijrah, golongan ni tak akan hijrah. Mereka ni setakat bising saja.
Pakatan Puak Pembohong. You are right. The BN as led by the UMNO with the 13 component parties will win again in the PRU 14. No doubt about it. And the Chinese, Malaysian Chinese become masochistic again ???
Re: NO – malay
YES – chinese, obviously
who cares – Indians
Exactly. It makes no difference.
What does it matter to the Indians if BN needs Chinese votes or if PR needs Malay votes or who wins in GE14 for that matter?
Both are unconscionably and obscenely greedy for power (and its spoils) and will ensure that the Indian majority remains at the lowest rung of society (in hypocritically blatant contradiction of the principles of fairness and equality bragged about in some Abrahamic religions).
Damned right.
Who cares.
You voted in my poll already? ,)
Of course. Who cares. :)
Re. will ensure that the Indian majority remains at the lowest rung of society
but among you community, you also have caste system though that obvious anymore here, it is there…plus the rich, educated, professional, and Christian ( Abrahamic religions) among you, have also abandoned the Hindu and the poor in your community.
Re. Who cares
Najib Nambikei has admitted the fact that BN has failed the Indian community but when are your community going to wake up and start to do self-reflecting in order to move forward.
Re: but among you community, you also have caste system though that obvious anymore here, it is there…plus the rich, educated, professional, and Christian ( Abrahamic religions) among you, have also abandoned the Hindu and the poor in your community.
The caste system within the Indian community is real but the effect is now confined to microinteractions. Networking for social advancement is across the board.
The rich UMNO Malays however, continue to shun their poorer brethren. The Chinese have their own class (wealth) based caste system and yet the government bends over backwards to satisfy both these communities – because they are the power brokers and major economic and political stakeholders.
A responsible government’s duty is to make sure that no community, no matter how small, a minority is discriminated or marginalised in any way.
What has internal discrimination got to do with a government’s entrusted duty?
What a shallow, puerile excuse for discriminating against Indians. Only an opportunistic, condescending UMNO mindset could come up with something like that.
I have been telling Indians whom I meet that we can no longer afford to have political dependencies. Representation, yes but not outright trust or reliance. Giving nambikei (trust) or loyalty to either BN or PR will only result in our continued disunity and downfall. History has shown us enough of that.
FYI, the Indian community has already began to move forward (minus caste considerations) – without fair treatment and despite the admittedly deliberate failure of the government AND despite the apparent persecution (i.e. denial of essential educational rights, especially at tertiary level, destruction of temples and blatant disrespect for our faith aimed at demoralising our community, unsupported displacement of rural communities and the subsequent victimisation – eg forced conversions, disproportionate number of extra judicial killings and deaths in detention etc).
I may not agree with some of you points, but I like your comment. This is what we want to hear from the Indian community.
You story may be confined within your circle only, you should write a column in Indian news paper for reach out purpose minus blaming UMNO/BN… while that’s is your prerogative the blaming game won’t give positive vibes to your community plus you need UMNO/BN support at macro level.
I know for a fact that the Indian Muslim community are very successfully plus they have a strong network.
Re: I know for a fact that the Indian Muslim community are very successfully plus they have a strong network.
Of course they’re successful. Not a few of them belong to and hold important positions in a very strong network called United Mamaks National Organisation.
ROTFL….. see what you can get when you are nice to the MALAYS….
If Najib stays as BN head, then BN will need Chinese votes coz the Malay votes will stop coming. A lot of Malays are fed-up with Najib (not BN).
If BN got a new capable leader that can show finger to racist DAP, then they will not need Chinese votes. Malays will rally behind BN becoz we don’t want to be governed by communist and gangsters like in Penang and Selangor.
Ahli2 Parlimen Melayu/Bumiputera di Parlimen skrg berjumlah 160. 2/3 majoriti hanya perlu 148 kerusi.
kalau UMNO+PAS dan mereka memenangi kerusi2 PKR, UMNO tak perlu undi China.
Isu di sini Melayu perlu bersatu bagi menyedari China ‘hardcore’ DAP. tp adakah baik untuk masadepan Malaysia jika Melayu/Bumiputera shj berkuasa?
skrg ni tak de wakil MCA dlm kabinet pun, kepentingan dan keperluan org2 China dijaga oleh BN bukannya DAP. kalau ramai China mcm Helen,Lee Lam Thye,Ling Liong Sik alangkah indah dan harmoninya hidup di Malaysia.
RCZ. Good logic and reasoning. Gentlemanly ?
BN memang tidak Peru undi Cina, sudah Banyak kali diulangi terutamanya pada presidingan UMNO.
lama tak komen … kalau BN @ UMNO bijak patutnya mereka dah rancang strategi dan gerakkan kerja untuk tentukan tanpa undi cina mereka boleh still berkuasa …. tapi kalau najib masih nak bergantung pada consultant2 yg dodoikan dia dengan lagu2 mendayu2 tu tak tau la ….
Helen, the chinese already said it clearly they dont need BN, so the answer is in Newton’s law “For every action ,there is an equal and opposite reaction”.
So helen , sudah terang lagi meyuluh.
kpanjang. Maybe the BN Government as led by the UMNO with the 13 component parties take a leaf out of the British (HY where are you ?) on how to rule the Chinese in colonial times.
1. Send police cadres to Swatow, Canton, Xiamen for 6 months to study these Southern Chinese,
2. Set up a Protectorate for the Chinese at the entrance to each Chinatown.complete with a British Protector. The Office in KL is still there.
3. The British used to banish the recalcitrant Chinese back to China without trial. HY will jump out of the window on this ! But it is a fact. And we should not erase history.
4. The British banned all Chinese political activity.
does DAP need malays vote for GE 14?
pemimpin DAP memang perasan hebat sekarang. Angkuh dan sombong.
Same like you, we malay will continue to vote for BN except this time around we will mobilise our family, no more take for granted,
Halim. The UMNO is fast becoming an icon of Malaysia.
The Malay Muslim Native community will comprise 69% of the population by 2020, from 2010’s 67%.
Focus on this group. 69% by 2020. Take good care of this group. Look after the interest of this group.
The rest will become increasingly insignificant.
BN listen. Take a leaf from the Democrats. They won 2 elections by focusing on the Hispanic and Colored people because these 2 groups of peoples are the rising demographics of the USA.
Survivor,
More importantly, UMNO especially UMNO must shed its “tdak apa ” attitude’.
Do not take comfort with facts that the percentage of Malays keep increasing. More importantly, we should look whether the percentage of Malay voters are increasing or instead decreasing in many constituents.
Take a look. Percentage of Malay voters are DECREASING in Pandan, Ampang, Shah Alam, Rembau, Gelang Patah, Balik Pulau, Hulu Kelang.
HOW? BECAUSE the powers to be allow expensive housing areas built on many consituents that effectively beyond the reach of majority Malays.
Ms H. I have always urged the Chinese, the Malaysian Chinese to vote for the BN as led by the UMNO with the 13 component parties. Malaysia is the only country in the whole wide world of the Chinese in which they voted en bloc against the incumbent Government against their traditional and conventional practices. This shows how outside interference with their domestic politics ad nauseam has swayed these ignorant and innocent minds that it is not in their best interests if ever to vote against a Government in which they are inhabitiants.
As I always said also some Chinese are so very clever as to be stupid. This lot of Chinese, the Malaysian Chinese have they really asked themselves whether their current political leadership is CREDIBLE, EDUCATED AND TRUSTWORTHY to lead them in these difficult times which these leaders have created for the MALAYSIAN CHINESE COMMUNITY AT LARGE but not for themselves.
The Chinese in Thailand are very patriotic. They oppose the Thaksin regime because they know the Thaksin regime is a Wall Street Puppet Regime yet in Malaysia, the Chinese support the Pakatan Gang who is well known for being intimately connected with the Wall Street Banksters. That really tells us something about the Chinese in Thailand and Malaysia.
In Thailand, the Siamese do not blame the Chinese for everything. In Thailand religion value never being forced on the non Siamese unlike in Malaysia. See what happen in Southern Thailand, the Muslim is always having conflict with the Siamese, are you saying that those Malay are not patriotic towards the Siamese gov?
In Thailand, the Chinese assimilated willingly into Thai society, so your contention that the Siamese never forced them into accepting Thai religion and culture is a big lie. Why forced someone when that someone has already decided that it is better that he adopts the religion and culture of another person ?
But in Malaysia, we have the opposite. The Chinese, even after 5 decades of independence, they still insist on having their vernacular schools, still reject the overtures of the Malays.
If you want to lie, think carefully. Oh by the way, I happen to monitor Stop The Lies. You have been making a lot of mischief there lately. Don’t believe me ? Go there, look at what you have been up to over there.
Yes I totally agree with you but UMNO have missed the opportunity to assimilate the non Malay decades ago. This is why the Siamese is having the same problem with their Malay so can you say those Malay are not patriotic towards the Siamese gov? BTW I don’t visit that “StopThe Lies” blog. It is a different person.
Re Yes I totally agree with you but UMNO have missed the opportunity to assimilate the non Malay decades ago.
Now had Umno forced the Chinese to assimilate the non Malays back then, no doubt, you will accuse the Malays of racism.
See. You keep spinning.
It works both way, if UMNO wants to practice raced based politic, racism will be answered by racism. Don’t expect the non Malay to take the allegation day in and day out and hoping them to support UMNO.
DAP don’t really get their support by their effort, it is UMNO who push the non Malay away towards DAP. Helping non Malay to become billionaire does not works because average non Malay do not get help from rich tycoons as the Malays from the gov.
You sound like a broken record, spinning yet repeating the same lies over and over again. You really saying DAP innocent as an angel?
I would not blame the chinese masses. They are just gullible for believing in DAP’s promises of conquering putrajaya….of course the mob can get carried away once their sentiments are fanned vigorously with insidious hatred filled bombastic DAP’s propaganda.
Malaysian,
“…It is UMNO…”
No. The opposite is the truth. At height of its power, UMNO stands firm on principle of political cooperation with non Malays. Had UMNO wanted to(as per your allegation), It would simply bulldoze on the Chinese then.
The truth is Chinese supported DAP en bloc as they felt this time around(PRU13) UMNO will “tumbang”. So “mesmerized” by DAP and supported by useless Malay politicians like Anwar, Chinese was taken for a ride.
What they ignore is the “elephant on the room”; Malay voters. The chinese, as seldom they mix with Malays beyond casual greeting did not realise that Malays saw something fishy about “ini kalilah”. To many of them,the slogan is mere facade for DAP to whip anti Malay sentiment IN ORDER TO GAIN POLITICAL POWER.
That not surprisingly has the opposite effect. It brought Malay closer to UMNO. Ever wonder why UMNO captured Kedah and made inroad to Kelantan? Not out of love. It was out of fear.
malaysian. There were 3 occasions when the Chinese, Malaysian Chinese could have sorted out their CHINESE DILEMMA. eg. In 1957, 1970 and 2004. They failed because of their very weak political leadership. Why ? With a beautiful hindsight, you may now observe their leaders were only community leaders and NOT POLITICIANS. Why ? Because the whole lot of their leaders were uneducated in the world at large in public affairs of the highest order.
bukan gang leaders ka?
kampong lad. Hmm !
Re. In Thailand, the Siamese do not blame the Chinese for everything
In Thailand the Chinese has lost their Chinese identity, you can never tell them apart from the local Thais, just like in Indonesia.
Be thankful that we don’t force on you here in this country.
Re. In Thailand religion value never being forced on the non Siamese unlike in Malaysia.
When did the last time the people from Jabatan Agama Islam knocks on your door and force you to embrace Islam or stop you from eating pork etc.
Re. the Muslim is always having conflict with the Siamese,
Both parties are Siamese, the conflict is between Muslim and Buddhist. Please read the news and stories, it started when the Thai army enforced/attacked the Muslim\s in the areas.
Both parties are Malaysian, the conflict is between the UMNO Malay and Pakatan, UMNO Malay dragging this into racial problem. Please read the news and stories, it started when the UMNO Malay raising the keris and ‘threatening’ the non Malay.
And the non Malays, during Himpunan Hijau said Balik kampung Tanam Jagung. I must admit that you are one big liar.
Prior to May 13 racial riot, orang Cina dengan angkuh dan sombongnya dalam perarakan menghalau orang Melayu dengan berkata “ORANG MELAYU BALIK KAMPONG. INI KUALA LUMPUR ORANG CINA PUNYA”. My late dad (BTW half-Chinese) experienced this incident first hand as he was living with his parents in Kampong Datuk Keramat and often related to us this incident. He joined with other Malays at Harun Idris’ home in Kampong Baru.
It is true that Lim Kit [Siang] was the instigator. Eventhough Dr Kua tried to rewrite history by denying LKS’s involvement but the Malays do not buy his bluff. Now his son, the Iguana is taking over and we shall see where it will lead to.
ROTFL….
Follow the program will you…
Itulah kalau kata MABUK TODI nanti Helen akan minus 10 points. Please read back your earlier comment….
You sound so desperate up the point you just say anything for the sake of commenting.
To response to crap, you must decent to their level otherwise they will be confused.
But then you overshot and descended to the level way, way below them. And now you are stuck, not able to come back up. Well, why don’t you just stay put down there amongst the sewage and save yourselves the trouble of having to struggle out of the cesspool. Hehehe
Re, you must decent to their level otherwise they will be confused.
ROTFL.. you yourself are already crap to the core… there is no bottom of it anymore… just read all others’ comments wrt your crap…
Kesian kan kau….
Here is how the Thai Chinese pays their respect to the Thai Monarch..
Helen can you help me to print the pic, if it is not too much to ask for…
Wow.. The Siamese government treat you Chinese very very good..
I’m sure you have Chinese school there??
I’m sure you can speak chinese fluently and doesn’t care to speak siamese..
I’m sure you still can use your chinese name instead of using siamese name..
The Dictator. Excellent comment and observation. You are absolutely correct. I was in the middle of the Bangkok National Stadium in 1966 and the patriotism of the Thais moved me to tears when they sang their National Anthem. And now we have this lot of Chinese, the Malaysian Chinese who voted against an incumbent Government, 90% of them. And sadly, no where else in the World including China, do the Chinese do this.
re: “the Malaysian Chinese who voted against an incumbent Government, 90% of them. And sadly, no where else in the World including China, do the Chinese do this”
The blacks in USA voted 95% for Obama. Tak rugi pun (i.e. the candidate whom they backed successfully clinched the election).
Re The blacks in USA voted 95% for Obama. Tak rugi pun (i.e. the candidate whom they backed successfully clinched the election).
The black President is not black after all. Just listen to the manner in which he lectures the black community, like a white man giving a lecture, and the black community continues to worship him as some sort of savior.
re: “The black President is not black after all. Just listen to the manner in which he lectures the black community, like a white man giving a lecture, and the black community continues to worship him as some sort of savior.”
The “Chinese chauvinist” politicians in DAP 3.0 are not ‘Chinese’ after all. Just listen to the manner in which they scold everyone as “low class”, like a white man/woman giving a lecture, and the Chinese oppo community continues to worship them as some sort of savior to lead them out of the “wicked BN”, “evil Umno” clutches.
The Singaporean Trojan Horse DAP sat for 47 long years doing nothing for the Malays, the Chinese, Indians and all. Recently, Its leadership assured their supporters including the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew that they have only to wait 5 more years, making a total of 52 years with no guarantee of success. And the much vaunted Chinese Malaysian Chinese voted for the DAP without taking notice of the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew/s 14 failed Policies for Singapore, their spiritual leader and spiritual homeland ? It sucks !
The International Jew. You are right again. With the fantastic media within our reach we see and think about what used to be our distant icons more clearly. And respect those at home more DEARLY!
The Chinese voted 90% for BN en bloc in past election as well saving the UMNO from being dethroned without being offered any carrot but they are not being thanked and Chinese never ask apa Melayu mau? It is possible the non Malay will vote BN again 90% en bloc if UMNO tone down their racial element.
re: “The Chinese voted 90% for BN en bloc in past election”
Oh really? Where’s your data?
re: “It is possible the non Malay will vote BN again 90% en bloc if UMNO tone down their racial element.”
Hahahaha, when it snows in Subang Jaya.
No need for votes from DAP chinese. UMNO’s racial element, if any, only in response to DAP highly charged racist rantings and screamings.
Didn’t I tell you all that he is getting desperado…
malaysian. Of course, you are right, the Chinese Malaysian Chinese will vote without any doubt 90% for the BN as led by the UMNO with the 13 component parties PROVIDED THE BN LEADERSHIP REMEMBERS WHAT MADE THE BN BEFORE 2003 CLICKED. After 2003, the fabled power pyramid was forgotten and replaced by THE PANDORA’S BOX !!! Hence, we have butterflies in all our stomachs every day so to speak !
Malaysian,
“…as well as saving UMNO…”.
I am not so sure about that. Even at best result that BN achieved, Chinese had never given more than 50% support to BN.
So, actually Chinese votes are over emphasized. Even Malay leaders until PRU13 made stupid mistakes by saying chinese are kingmaker(on election).
No. The King Makers on last election are ” makcik makcik dan pakcik pakcik serta orang Melayu yang selalunya diam saja”.
Had not for them, UMNO had already “bungkus”. I must say that their “jasa” to UMNO is just huge. They are on the ground and keep reminding Malays to think life without UMNO LONG BEFORE NAJIB uttered the word on UMNO General ASSEMBLY.
I once watched a simple discussion in front of a surau. A ‘lebai” after hearing so many negatives vibes about UMNO from a number of men after Isya prayers asked them to think about Malays should UMNO no longer there.
Suddenly the lively debate became quiet. And I still remember what he said, ” Orang Arab 100 tahun dulu jika diberi pilihan mahukah Kerajaan Osman atau Yahudi?”.
That sentence triggered serious thinking. What the lebai was saying is that we are all should be careful of what we wish for.
It is because these kind of UMNO members that UMNO still remain relevant in Malay community They are the link between UMNO and Malay masses. No doubt Malays are too critical towards UMNO, Najib and his failure to tap the Malay mood.
FOR MALAYSIAN to say that Chinese helped UMNO from being dethroned is misrepresentation of facts. The truth is that UMNO keeps winning simply because it is able to earn the lion share of Malay votes. No doubt Chinese votes did help but not to level of saving UMNO from being dethroned.
It is simple math. To wrest Putrajaya, any political party must get the lion share of the largest etnic group; the Malays.
In last election, UMNO I can say won by “default”. But malays may not be that charitable in coming election.
With due respect to you Helen.., but I must say that you must be one naive blogger with regard to international or foreign politics..
Regardless how the blacks had voted in the US elections, but it is those damn Zionists (masquerading as Jewish power) that decide beforehand who becomes the President of The USA. For all we know, if those damn Zionists wants a monkey to be the US President, then it shall be so.
Dr. Ron Paul (Republican), Dennis Kucinich (Democrat) or the black Cynthia McKinney (the George Galloway of USA) are all decent candidates worthy of being the US President. However, you should know by now who are those that literally have full control of the economy as well as the political power of The USA. And here’s the proof (in jest) as per the YouTube video below:-
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Thus, those decent & worthy politicians in the likes of Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich or Cynthia McKinney shall have a ghost of a chance in becoming the US President, as long as those damn Zionist freaks control all the shots as elucidated by the comedian George Carlin.
For you information, that ‘black’ US President (Barack Obama) was put there by those damn Zionists even though he was a mere greenhorn politician from Chicago who is a mere puppet for those damn Zionists. So much so for the so-called ‘most democratic nation’ on earth.., i.e. The USA.
You must learn to accept the fact that Barack Obama is nothing more than a mere puppet President of those damn Zionists to do the bidding of that lunatic state of Zionist-Israel. And here’s the proof as per the YouTube video below:-
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Need to know more..? Just ask.
Re. For you information, that ‘black’ US President (Barack Obama) was put there by those damn Zionists
He was put there to inherit the sinking ship left by Bush Junior with USD7 trillion dollar deficits due to largely war in Iraq on the ground of Weapon of Mass Destruction (WMD).
The same reason why they put Collin Powell as the first Black Secretary of State in 2001 and followed by Condoliza Rice in 2004. The African Americans are so proud of the two appointment but not realizing that the two are to be the scapegoat of their Iraq Invasion should anything went wrong which it did as there is no WMD.
LOL..,
In the words of Malcolm-X.., there are 2 type of Negroes in the USA.., i.e. the ‘House Negro’ and the ‘Field Negro’ as elaborated in the YouTube video here:-
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Therefore.., General Colin Powell and Condaleeza Rice are nothing more than mere ‘House Niggas’ in full action.
However, Barack Obama is not merely a ‘House Nigga’. He is now the Master of The White House but in reality he is a puppet of those evil Zionist Globalists.
Despite being a black man himself, ironically way back in 2008 he did not necessarily desire the votes of all the Black Community in the USA because of certain pressure exerted upon him by his political handlers (i.e. Zionist-Jewish political masters) to reject & denounce the political support from some of the Black community (i.e. from the Nation of Islam) led by Mr. Louis Farakhan as displayed in the YouTube video below:-
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Clearly.., this ‘House Nigga’ attribute as displayed by Barack Obama to seal his position into The White House is so apparent.
How is it then that such a Black man in the likes of Barack Obama reject and denounce his own kind (the Blacks) from a Black minority group? When the leader of such minority group (Louis Farakhan) dares to speak the truth and who calls a spade, a spade, as displayed in the YouTube below:-
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Thus.., dubbing Barack Obama as being a scapegoat for any folly that happens to USA is quite an understatement. When one submits oneself to be the pawn of the Devil for worldly fame or fortune, then one must be prepared to face the ugly consequence of one’s own nasty destruction. Let’s see what shall be the fate of Barack Obama.
Good one bro.
With continued victimization of the Shias & now Wahabbis in Malaysia, how will UMNO lock-up more Malay voters in GE14?
There’s estimated 1 million Shias & tens of thousands Wahabbis, mostly in establishment ranks. Alot whom been in Malaysia since 1400 years ago when Islam arrived with traders from Middle-East, Gujarat, Yemen etc. Even the name origins of Tongkat Ali & Kacip Fatimah are Shia.
With Kalimah Allah issue unsettled, the Sarawak/Sabah Bumiputra Christians are still in flux. With Taib Mahmud aging in decline by GE14, his feudal hold over Sarawak Bumiputras will be less effective in coralling the votes. Plus the soon-to-be appointed new Catholic church leadership will be more aggressive with the resignation of Pakiam Murphy recently.
Also now, i have the feeling the post-hikes of electricity, petrol, toll, GST etc will badly squeeze the cost of living among working-class, middle-class Malays. The full tsunami price effect will be felt by 2016, as GST implementation will be mid-2015.
Perkasa, ISMA have no traction on economic issues of rising inflation and cost-of-living. PAS will consolidate their ground come GE14, as now lots of PAS leaders are talking more on economic issues which they have always been uncomfortable in the past.
So it’s interesting to watch how the sentiments will settle by 2016.
On a side note in my home state, there’s serious talks of Vincent Tan (Dr Mahathir’s proxy) and the Royalty pushing to finalize soon for big casino theme park development in Iskandar.
This will capture huge economic spendings of punters and tourists currently flocking to Singapore’s two casinos as well as those going to Genting Highlands, Pahang.
Plus, recently the Royalty has been making a lot of big land deals with China developers to start development projects in the state, especially for overseas buyers. It will benefit the state economically but will the working-class, middle-class Malays on the ground see it that way?! That’s interesting question too…
~ Anak Pasir Gudang
This is the perfect example that illustrate my point. The elites (regardless of race) are all abang adik looking after each other. Raced based policy is used as front to protect their wealth leaving us the middle class, low class and no class citizen fighting each other for racial pride.
Please show us which comment(s) that you are referring to and in which entry. Frankly I have not seen that or I may have missed it…
To start with one must have a brain to contribute intellectually and not taking credit for other people’s idea or point of view.
your blog is the best Helen..keep it up!!
Hear ye! hear ye!
I second and third and …… it.
Speak for yourself, please. Not all Chinese are super loyal fans of PR, ok.
Nor are we all dyed-in-the-wool BN haters either.
It may surprise you that our voting strategy has very little to do with whom I like or dislike. The ultimate choice comes down to who presents a modern, intelligent, compassionate and moral outlook to guide this country of ours into the future. Sad to say, such candidates are few and far between on both sides. Or they’re there but hidden from view, overshadowed by the flamboyant career politician types with too many skeletons in their closet.
Curmudgeon of 72. We all actualy do not hate each other definitely not before puberty. The Swiss say snide remarks about each other. They have 4 different tribes, the Germans, the French, the Italians and the Romansch (those guys who deserted the Roman Legions and holed up in the high Swiss Alps for 2,000 years) In front of foreigners, the Swiss keep a united front. They have been quarreling amongst each other for 800 years since their Confederation and still at it. This is the reason why the Swiss have a National Referendum on every small issue.
Aiyooo…getting sick of all this Chinese bashing lah. Ungrateful la, traitorous la, etc etc. So much hatred against the Chinese just because they exercised their democratic right to vote against the incumbent government?
If they’re perceived as racist because of this, its only because UMNO has been just that all along. Twist and turn as much as you like but UMNO’s plan for racial supremacy is undeniable. Maybe the Chinese had just about enough of it after more than fifty long years.
The fact remains that without the Chinese, regardless if they’re pro BN or pro PR/DAP, this country would not be where it is today, economically. Their contributions to every other aspect of nation-building are also invaluable.
UMNO, the Malays and Malaysia itself have benefited a great deal from them (the Chinese even pay the most taxes).
Why are most Malays here ungrateful for this?
Anjua?
Che Debt,
If I may add, why are we still bashing certain community for practising their constitutional right to vote? If a person is bashed for voting certain party, then the democratic right to vote is meaningless.
Putting that aside, election has ended and the next one will come in 4 years time. We can continue bashing for the sake of bashing. Meanwhile, my immediate concern now is the rising cost of living due to the price hike of many items and services.
Helen, perhaps you can start an article on the cost of living/inflation and invite commenters to share their opinions on how to reduce the impact and save money.
Thanks.
Hehehe..,
You must one sick dude or a spin-master in uttering:-
“…The fact remains that without the Chinese, regardless if they’re pro BN or pro PR/DAP, this country would not be where it is today, economically…”
The Chinese are the ones who had economically benefitted wholesomely & handsomely due to the accommodating nature of the Malays & Bumiputras prior and after the Merdeka Days. This is an undeniable fact.
Till this day we can clearly see the economic benefits that the Chinese had amassed and enjoyed if we merely take a look and notice of the multitude of business premises in any city or town in Malaysia that are owned and operated by the Chinese.
Clearly again, those Chinese industrialists, entrepreneurs and business persons are far from being genuinely & honestly willing to share their skills & knowledge in business or enterprise with the Malays & Bumiputras for sake of economic equilibrium of the nation. Apparently, most of them would prefer to culminate the ‘Ali-Baba’ business concept.with the Bumiputras for donkey years now. The Chinese would prefer to ‘make use’ of the Bumiputras to achieve their business & economic end rather than helping & working together with Bumiputras to achieve a mutual benefit between the races..
However, be advised that the greatest contribution ever to the rapid progress of Malaysia’s economy was not that of the Chinese. It was actually a God-given contribution, i.e.. the discovery of petroleum & natural-gas fields in the early 1970’s that had culminated in the formation of Petronas. The Chinese portion in tax contribution for the development of the nation is for sure simply dwarfed by the by God-given contribution of petroleum & natural-gas to Malaysia as exemplified via Petronas.
So.., fools like you should not – ‘Sendiri masuk bakul dan sendiri mau angkat’. Understand..!?
Re. “…The fact remains that without the Chinese, regardless if they’re pro BN or pro PR/DAP, this country would not be where it is today, economically…”
How convenient, prior to Tun M taking over from Tun Hussein Onn, the Chinese concurred the biggest cut of the economic pie since they have inherited the infrastructures already available in the big cities where their population are largely located, business skill and business network among their community. They controlled the whole supply chain.
In early 1980s or so the Gomen under Tun M introduced Amanah Saham Nasional (ASN) specifically for Bumiputera with 1000% guarantee returns in 10 years with minimum investment or RM10.
Startingwith ASN, Tun M started proton and invest more and more on Bumiputera education where they are sent abroad, the look east policy was also introduced. In the mid 1980’s the North South highway was built, Jambatan Pulau Pinang and few other big projects. FDI especially from Japan started pouring in and since then, it is no stopping us.
One day in early 1990’s I think, Many Bumiputera woke up to their biggest surprise as their ASN account has increased to 10 folds including my parents.
Tell me Che Debt,
where in the timeline did the Chinese contribute to the said success. The Chinese has been greedy and selfish all along that’s why Tun M didn’t include them in the earlier phase of the transformation….
Re: …the Chinese concurred the biggest cut of the economic pie since they have inherited the infrastructures already available in the big cities where their population are largely located…
Of course they deserved the biggest cut of the economic pie.
They earned it (they actually worked for it). Got a problem with that?
Big cities?
Who do you think founded Kuala Lumpur? Mat Kilau?
As usual you fellas will say any damn thing to justify your racism and lay claim to the success of the nation.
Even to the extent of denying the undeniable.
Just like the DAP Chinese.
You’re freaking delusional just like the DAP Chinese who actually believe their own lies.
I tend to agree with Hafiz Ahmad who asks. “Are Malays out of their minds?”
He says: Malays are living in the state of delusion. They cannot differentiate between the real problems happening to them and the delusional ones.
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/opinion/2013/12/23/are-malays-out-of-their-minds/
Yes. BN does. It’s the Chinese who feel that they don’t need BN.
It doesn’t make any difference now whether the onslaught against the Chinese continues or not. Whatever it has accomplished, it already has. Whatever it did not, will not. Although some apparently enjoys the therapeutic effects.
I doubt the Chinese would show the same level of enthusiasm come next GE… whatever is done, cannot be undone.
re: “whatever is done, cannot be undone”
The trust is broken.
If MCA candidates are put to stand in Malay-majority areas, Isma will step in with full force as third party candidates. Also the pro-establishment Malays will no longer vote for MCA or Gerakan candidates anymore in GE14.
Dr M saw this when he issued his Gelang Patah caution about “the end of kongsi”.
Dr. M is right.. my (also my family) very bad experience in Gelang patah change everything.. racist!! that’s me..
Me too. An ultra-Malay and a racist to the core!
Ms H. I have discovered that most Chinese Malaysian Chinese subconciously want a Malay or an Indian or all to be like them. As soon as I explained that we cannot be like a Malay or an Indian and all, their brainwashed minds cleared up and understood why some Malaysians behaved differently from them. THIS IS A MALAYSIAN CHINESE POLITICIANS JOB, NOT OUR JOB. Now we know that they were paid handsomely to do this JOB WHICH THEY DID NOT. It is the weak political leadership of the Malaysian Chinese.
Re: Ms H. I have discovered that most Chinese Malaysian Chinese subconciously want a Malay or an Indian or all to be like them.
Unker AK47, so do the Malays.
Why do you think we have Saidina Umar Lim Abdul Aziz and Hasnah Yeop and the Selendang Squad?