Agama Kristian lebih fleksibel berbanding dengan Islam. Contohnya umat Islam ditegah melukis wajah Nabi Muhammad tetapi Yesus sebaliknya digambarkan dengan pelbagai rupa dalam banyak lukisan-lukisan dan bentuk seni.
Islam di’UBAH’ mereka kelak
Kita sudah melihat dengan biji mata sendiri bahawa apa-apa sahaja boleh di’UBAH’ oleh si evangelista di bumi Malaysia ini.
Para pemimpin mereka pun memang sudah terkenal kaki putar alam. Yang haq dijadikan mereka sebagai palsu manakala yang palsu pula ditunggang balikkan mereka sebagai satu kebenaran. Lepas itu, mereka tuduh orang lain yang terlalu “mudah konpius” dan rapuh iman.
Tidak mustahil orang bukan Muslim yang licik lagi agresif akan mahu melenturkan ajaran dan amalan Islam atas alasan ‘fatwa’ ciptaan mereka sendiri yang mengatakan Islam tidak bersifat kaku (rigid).
Bayangkan sekiranya ‘Allah’ biar dikongsi bersama. Nanti sifat azali Tuhan yang Satu akan dipelbagaikan pula umpama wajah dan rupa Yesus telah berjaya dipelbagaikan.
Berkaitan:
Helen Ang 
Tentunya kita tidak mahu asal boleh ubah sesumpah ala betty botak dan tokong umar menghima dan terus-terusan menghina Allah Yang Satu dengan kreativiti tanpa batasan golongan ini.
Murphy Pakiam ada coolie complex masih risaukan orang2 luar ketawakan Malaysia daripada keharmonian sesama kaum!
HAHAHAHA … this is too funny, for not to post up a comment
“Cool Jesus” waiting for them maleis to counter back ala-ala avivi swinger “bak kut teh”
What’s the point of you posting a hate entry here?
We know there’s a mystical element of Allah’s immanence in creation, but all the Prophets have proclaimed His Essence as transcendent beyond space and time, Uncreate. Hence, can any sound-minded and pure-hearted human devotee of God on High ever bear that Allah Most Holy and Sublime be degraded to the likes of rastafarian bob marleys? If this is not “hateful” to you then it’s time for a heart check-up.
Helen needs to fulfil her Hate Quota before the end of the year.
It also appears the anti-Shia hysteria being mixed up by the government is stealing her thunder away from her anti-Christian hysteria. :)
I believe that ‘Whatever’ @ 7:34pm was responding to ‘yesus’ @ 7:18pm when he/she replied “What’s the point of you posting a hate entry here?”
Indian, Chinese Jesus and so on thus confirm one thing that Christians aint sure of how Jesus look likes and they pray with confidents and faith to their own Jesus version? . Even when a janitor wash the windows of SJMC and the shape reflects a graphic look like ‘Jesus’ and they went berserk, but Jesus of which oringin? Arab? African?Chinese?Indian?Americans? or newly founded made in Malaysia? That is why Prophet Muhamamad SAW did not allowed his image being recorded. And look at what happen to Jesus, I’m still wonder why Pemuda Umno and Puteri too quite when all that happening inclusive of Najib actions it clear in front of their eyes. Maybe there are registered members in record but no physical records.
The window episode could only happen in Subang Jaya. There are so many other towns and cities in Malaysia. Why didn’t it happen in Johor Baru, for example?
Inhabitants in those places “taken by evangelistas for Jesus” have been given too much Holy Water to drink.
In Islam not all issues can be compromised with the non Muslim especially where Akidah or syirik is the ultimate sin towards Allah that had to be accounted for by any Muslim Rulers or leaders that had choose to succumbed to the Church priest demands. It is the Christian lots that should reviewed back their “monstrous” demands. They should listen to their inner consciousness and question themselves why today they need to name their nameless God to Allah?
Why didn’t their former historic Christian priest like St Francis Xavier eg. had not been demanding the same ? This is a VALID question because you people can never find Allah names in any pages in the Holy Bible King James version. So why bother to put Allah name in the Al Kitab? Was there any valid prophet sent by god living among you “today” that had instructed to edit the former Bibles? Can’t you people see that the “religion” is no longer authentic and logically in bahasa melayu it had becomes “ugama agak-agak”?
No wonder Allah mentioned in the Noble al Quiran surah Ali Imran 3:19 “Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them – out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah , then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account.”
In short this issues cannot be politically resolves and we do not blame people like Guan Eng or Lim Kit Siang or Karpal Singh to understand. They are not even a learned Christian ! Simply put they are just political opportunist. How could they be blame when people who claimed as ulamak like Nik Aziz and Hadi Awang had “inconsistently” politically agreed with their pembangkang friends?
If there are any sober and peace loving Chirstian left in this country, and if Allah is such an important Creator to you all ? You should start doing research why the Muslim lots regards the Holy Al Quran as the ultimate words of Allah? Try to find any mistakes in the Noble Quran if you can find one and shared it with us. You people got nothing to loose if you give yourselves a chance of a life time. Believe me you shall never regret it.
DAP’s Impian Sabah and Impian Sarawak are in progress.
Their evangelistas want to incite the hatred of Sabah & Sarawak native Christians in order to gain a crucial vote bank. That’s what it boils down to. GREED for Gold and Glory. Unfortunately the Gospel is manipulated in the process.
To all educated evangelistas of Malaysia, spare sometimes to listen to Dr. ZAKIR NAIK lectures. Just youtube it and may be you would find the light at the of the tunnel. Listen to his lectures with an open mind and judge yourself. You got nothing to lose anyway.
Knowledge is everything.
Zakir Naik is an idiot! Listen to this rambling lunatic’s lectures and stay in the darkness of a tunnel vision mindset.
Backbiting is a major sin whose retribution is the Hellfire, unless the backbiter repents of his transgression – a repentance whose criterion of acceptance is to seek the pardon of the object of one’s backbiting.
Every public imputation of dishonor should be copiously supported by credible evidence, for it to be useful to the judgement of any party concerned. It is otherwise an exercise in political polemics at its ugliest and a great disservice to the public discourse and protocol. But it might take some time to wrench free from one’s own entrenched opinions in order to catch a glimpse of the light at the end of the tunnel.
Not everything that Dr. Zakir Naik says is noteworthy. But certainly thousands and thousands of people around the globe have benefitted from some of his lucid lectures. For certain, only an idiot would label him a lunatic.
“Just youtube it and may be you would find the light at the of the tunnel.”
The light at the end is actually an oncoming cargo train.
what if black jesus or afro jesus or lengchai comtemporary jesus were to suddenly appear in subang jaya proclaiming ‘i am the son of the father whom you have been waiting for’. what would the evangelistas’ reaction or response be?
let me guess – they would say ‘this idiot must be drunk’ – minum samsu (arak bukit) or he would be shot dead kerana dah tak boleh cari makan.
(1) black Jesus and afro Jesus would not be well received in Jerusubang. We have seen how they treat drak-skinned people like Banggladeshis (and mamaks).
(2) they don’t need the Second Coming. Already got their Tokong in Penang.
ho ho masih celik warna ye! mata saja cerah tapi hati dah gelap gulita.
black one no well received ka helen? patutla itu HY punya hubby sudah salin kulit sampai dia punya tamil pun tak function….hehehe!
As a Muslim, I don’t agree with the images of Christ just as I do not condone the image of Muhammad. I also do not make jokes about any of the prophets. I do not do it just out of respect for the Christians, I do it because it is part of my religion’s teachings..
So, I find it baffling that the evangelists who portray themselves as full of love for all humans, have over this Christmas season been picking on the Malay Muslims, accusing us of wanting to bomb their churches, hijacking their god “Allah” and prolonging the case in the courts, and not wanting peace and harmony in the country.
When will everyone realise, we the Malay Muslims are not the ones who are forever provoking the Christians, inciting people to hate and poking into their churches affairs? We did not start this culture of going into their churches to give sermons or political speeches. We do not offer you food or drink that we know you can’t take. We do not try to teach them how or when or what to pray.
re: “the evangelists who portray themselves as full of love for all humans”
They are the ones always provoking and insulting others. The most recent episode, that tweet about Zebra & Hippo, was by DAP evangelista politician David Nga Kor Ming.
Then they make a show as if they such keen “bridge builders” between churches and mosques. The evanglistas are the ones fighting most with Muslims. All around the world, Christians and Muslims are fighting. The evangelistas are importing that blood feud here and if only you Muslims are aware of their mockery of Islam and the Prophet behind your back.
The rest of us (Buddhists, Hindus and other other non-Christians) don’t bother with the “bridge building” hypocritical posturing because our temples are not fighting with your mosques in the first place.
And neither are our politicians invading the suraus nor our adherents attempting to steal the Allah word. The DAP evangelistas are a menace!
That Madagascar pic comparison tweet, that was uncouth, uncivilsed, totally juvenile, something a ten-year bully could relate to and would be proud of. And that to me captures the sentiment and mentality of the Dapsters. Face it, that’s their appointed leader, someone they are proud of and I’m totally embarassed and ashamed to admit is from my home state.
That bridge-building thingy, until they pointed out they needed to build bridges between the church and the mosque, there was no chasm between the two. That’s like the Samy V joke came to life – you know the one about “Bina jambatan, kalau tak ada sungai kita buat sungai dulu.”
re: “something a ten-year bully could relate to”
The 10-year-old bully’s repertoire is “hu hu hu”.
Re. The rest of us (Buddhists, Hindus and other other non-Christians) don’t bother
Yet you guys are lump into the same group and become collateral damage in the process. Other than you, I don’t think any other person has tried made an effort to separate the two.
To make it worst the Y-Generation Chinese who are largely “atheist” (in my personal opinion) believe/identify with the evangelista through and through.
Isma will deal with the evangelistas.
The Chinese will live to regret the day their shortsighted political gamble opened the door for Isma, Perkasa and other hardliners to find a niche. \
The Chinese will soon even miss the relatively more benign Umno and the Orang Kaya Indera Shahbandar who possesses such a high tolerance level.
Monkey see monkey do. Anything and everything also can. No morals, no principle. What is to happen to the next generation Y. They will become pagans.
Re. The Chinese will live to regret the day their shortsighted political gamble
Prior to PRU13 have you ever heard or encountered any average Mat and Minah Melayu who are bold enough to counter any Chinese abusive verbal attack? It was known as “Sikap Tidak Apa” Melayu then, which was actually ” Sifat Sabar” Melayu which was looked down by the Chinese.
Well not anymore my friend, the Malays have started to be verbally aggressive and in their action as well.
For instance, the middle and lower end of the supply chain in Chinese business community have started to feel the pinch. Yes they will still survive in Chinese majority area but not in Malay majority areas. In the long run hopefully the tide will turn in favor of the Malays.
Re. the Orang Kaya Indera Shahbandar who possesses such a high tolerance level.
“Sabar adalah separuh daripada iman dan keyakinan adalah seluruh keimanan.” (riwayat Ath Thabrani dan Al Baihaqi).
http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y=2012&dt=0327&pub=Utusan_Malaysia&sec=Bicara_Agama&pg=ba_01.htm
re: “”Sabar adalah separuh daripada iman”
Thanks for highlighting the provenance of this famous phrase.
re: For instance, the middle and lower end of the supply chain in Chinese business community have started to feel the pinch.
I disagreed. The impact are mostly due to price hike. This is the same for other businesses owned by non-Chinese.
Re: The Chinese will live to regret the day their shortsighted political gamble
Well, right after election the BN government announced so many price hikes. Not only the Chinese should regret, but all the Malaysians.
Please visit all anti Cina DAP business blog, there are many of them and you will understand. The Malays will rather go to Malay or Indian shops than Chinese Shop.
While it is true, the impact are mostly due to price hike and it affects everyone, the traffic of business has started to change its flow from the Chinese to the Malays. If you are living in Chinese majority area, you will not see this but if you are in Malay majority area you will definitely notice it, Rina, Sarah and few other followers of this blog will attest to this.
I live in B Bintang, a Chinese Majority area, after PRU13 I have started to patronize the Malay and Indian Sundry Shop which is a distance away from my place, their businesses have been great judging by crowd that they received on daily basis.
Plus it is common, now for us Malays to receive sms or notification in FB with question like “where to get this from Bumi Shops, Supplier etc. ” or if they discover new Bumi Shop they will inform everyone immediately.
Re. Not only the Chinese should regret, but all the Malaysians.
CORRECTION, the Malays in general and will over time realize that all the benefits will largely go their pocket. I have said time and again, it is a collective punishment especially for the Chinese but the Malays will benefit most e.g. the BRIM has now been increased from RM300 to RM600, and there is also a second tier of RM300.
You will see the trend towards and nearing PRU14 that more and more benefits will be given out to allay the grievances, the Chinese may not be swayed by it, but majority of Malays especially the Totok Malay and Kampung Malay who delivered the vote in PRU13 will definitely do.
Meantime, if you think that Pakatan wouldn’t do this given the opportunity or should the PRU result be reversed, think again. As it is now they have gladly increased their salary by 2 to 3 folds, plus business license in Selangor.
In Penang, Developer Above People motto have kept them happy thus no need for salary increases. Meantime, I am not surprise if many of them have bank accounts in Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, British Virgin Island, Bahamas etc. or even Israel.
lol,
I try not to look at the outcome of the general election from a raced-based point of view. In a democratic society, a person is free to vote any party or even abstain from voting without being ‘penalised’. This is the fundamental of freedom to vote. The Chinese overwhelmingly support BN back in 1999 while the Malays were split due to the arrest of Anwar. The government didn’t give handouts to Chinese back then even though the sovereign debt was not as high as today.
No doubt Malays will benefit the most from handouts but this is a testament that majority of the Malays are low income earners, something that we should not be happy with. In fact, the government is obliged to assist the deserving poor and under-privileged.
My concern post election is the rising cost of living due to the various price hikes. Personally, I would rather the government not to dish out bantuan this and that only to take thethem back after the election by hiking prices. Price hike will cause chain effect across the economy. Eg. the price of petrol was prevously reduced by Tun Abdullah after an earlier hike to RM2.70 but the prices of food did not come down accordingly.
We can continue to bash everyone on a daily basis along racial and political lines but the rising cost of living/inflation is affecting all Malaysians irrespective of the race, religion etc.
BR1M RM 650 divide 365 days = RM1.78 per day for a household that earn less than RM4000 per month. Hardly any impact for a household that consist of 4 members.
Re. My concern post election is the rising cost of living due to the various price hikes. Personally, I would rather the government not to dish out bantuan this and that only to take them back after the election by hiking prices.
I hear you, unfortunately that’s the name of the game. Plus they have been holding down the subsidy for sugar, petrol, tol, etc for far too long actually.
The Pakatan strategy all this while is only “memburuk-burukkan” kerajaan but they never deliver as promised. To counter that it is only due for the GOMEN to do just that.
Re. BR1M RM 650 divide 365 days = RM1.78 per day for a household that earn less than RM4000 per month.
For most it is still a big different actually. That amount will get you 228.07kg of sugar (at RM2.85 per kg). Enough for more than a year supply.
I think once the GST is implemented where more taxes will be collected from the Cheating Cina DAP businesses, there maybe more perks in place.
LOL,
Re: For most it is still a big different actually. That amount will get you 228.07kg of sugar (at RM2.85 per kg). Enough for more than a year supply.
Assuming what you said is correct, the RM650 BR1M is enough for a year consumption for a household member of 4 post subsidy removal for sugar. What about the hike for petrol, electricity, toll, assessment (for KL), LRT/KTM, schoolbus fares etc. What bantuan is going to cover the price hikes for these items/services?
Re. What about the hike for petrol, electricity, toll, assessment (for KL), LRT/KTM, schoolbus fares etc.
As I said, the Gomen has hold down the subsidy for far too long. Look at the justification for petrol for instance. The Chinese in particular has been going around telling the world that they work so hard and they don’t need subsidy; only Bangsa Melayu is Bangsa Subsidy. With the increase in petrol price of 20 sen, everybody will be affected, but mostly the Chinese business community will feel the effect.
The same goes to electricity and toll, I have commented about this as well and to the irk of the Cina DAP.
Re. assessment (for KL), LRT/KTM, schoolbus fares etc.
The RM650 may also cover these as well sparingly. As for assessment, I think it will affect the middle and high income as well as business owner the more for specifically, urban population.
Re, School bus Fares
The School Bus association, just like the taxi drivers association, has been pressing the government for the fare increase many many times. Again, sparingly the GOMEN has either hold down or increased it gradually.
Please take note, mereka pun nak hidup juga, The Gomen has to listen to them as well.
LOL,
So, in your opinion the BR1M is enough to cushion the price hike whether it is petrol, sugar, electricity, toll, assessment (KL) etc?
Assuming it is enough to cover for those who are entitled to receive BR1M, what about those middle class earners?
LOL,
Re: I think once the GST is implemented where more taxes will be collected from the Cheating Cina DAP businesses, there maybe more perks in place.
Coming from a corporate background, a business can easily pass the GST cost to consumers. Alternatively, businesses can employ creative methods to avoid paying GST. I would say GST will have minimum impact on businesses. Look at the price hikes for the past few years. Businesses simply pass the additional costs to consumers.
It is ‘makan gaji’ Malaysians like us that will be affected.
I am new to this blog. But I don’t understand why Helen and commenters are more concerned on issues like DAP, Hannah Yeoh, bashing Pakatan, bashing Chinese, kalimah Allah, Lim Guan Eng etc. Are you guys immune to price hike/inflation or come from wealthy background?
re: “I am new to this blog.”
How did you come?
re: “But I don’t understand why Helen and commenters are more concerned on issues like DAP, Hannah Yeoh …”
They are guilty of promoting the equivalent of Sembahyang Dua Imam dan Mengkafir, which in their case (more acute than the PAS version), can be understood as inciting and spreading Hate.
Quite frankly, if another May 13 happens again, I will hold them guilty of playing a significant role in sparking it. Like why Lim Kit Siang was detained under ISA 17 months following the 1969 race riots.
Helen,
I came from http://www.rockybru.com.my/
There is a link to your blog from there.
re: Quite frankly, if another May 13 happens again,……..
With people getting more Internet savvy and discerning, I would say riot due to racial conflict is unlikely. We have seen massive gathering of Bersih and Black 505 rally with incidences of riot/anarchy but not on racial lines. It is not Malay vs Chinese but more of demonstrators vs authorities.
re: “not on racial lines. It is not Malay vs Chinese”
Religious lines more incendiary than racial lines today in Malaysia. It will be Muslim vs Christian as elsewhere in the world.
Re. Coming from a corporate background, a business can easily pass the GST cost to consumers. Alternatively, businesses can employ creative methods to avoid paying GST
GST will adopt single tax instead of double taxes (I think sales plus services or Gomen tax). The current tax practices have benefited the Cheating DAP Chinese Business Community whereby, they either don’t report the sales or don’t give you receipts. With GST, the tax will be paid by the consumers ( currently the consumers also pay sales and gomen tax fyi) not them and everything will be recorded, this will help the GOMEN to track their record. They will pay their business and income tax accordingly.
Please read more on how GST works.
Re. can employ creative methods to avoid paying GST
Indeed they will as usual but the GOMEN is a step ahead of them this time, for once caught they are going to pay big time.
Miskin, as you keep reading Helen’s blog, you will find that she has developed a tendency toward bashing the Christians, and especially Hannah Yeoh, beyond the point of an unhealthy irrational obsession. Real issues, such as the impending price hikes are not important, unless a Christian-element can be fabricated and faulted.
Concerning the GST and price hikes in commodities, petrol, utilities, staple items, etc., we will certainly see the increased costs being passed down to the consumer. It has always been the case. It will be harder for the lower-income citizens to survive.
re: “a tendency toward bashing the Christians, and especially Hannah Yeoh”
If you will care to do a Google search on my blog, you can see that the word “Christian” does not appear often. The word I use is “evangelista”.
There is a difference. Evangelista is a small and specific group, like Al-Arqam. Christians is a big group like Muslims.
When one says “Al-Arqam”, one is referring to “Al-Arqam” specifically and not to Muslims in general. When I say “evangelista”, I am referring to “evangelista” specifically and not to Christians in general.
In fact, most times I refer to DAP evangelista politicians in particular.
As for Hannah Yeoh, she is the No.2 executive leadership in Selangor after Khalid Ibrahim. Since she is MB (Mem Besar), her public role must be held up for scrutiny, especially by Selangorians like me.
Helen,
After all, this is your blog. You have the right to decide on the selection of topics for your articles and I respect that.
AC-DC,
Re: ……… as you keep reading Helen’s blog, you will find that she has developed a tendency toward bashing the Christians, and especially Hannah Yeoh, beyond the point of an unhealthy irrational obsession.
Agree. A quick browse on Helen’s articles and the comments from readers will reveal the same. With due respect, this is her blog and she is entitled to decide on the topics.
Miskin,
I have already clarified to AC-DC @ 2013/12/28 at 11:32 am that “evangelistas” is not equivalent to Christians just as Al-Arqam is not equivalent to Muslims.
When a person says Al-Arqam, he means the group specifically and not Muslims in general. Likewise when I say “evangelista”, I mean the group specifically (and their DAP 3.0 politicians in particular) and not Christians in general.
Since you are new here, don’t shoot off your mouth after “a quick browse” but try to read properly. There is a lot of content.
I’m willing to admit that I can be repetitive but “irrational” clearly belongs to AC-DC’s Dapster side.
“As for Hannah Yeoh, she is the No.2 executive leadership in Selangor after Khalid Ibrahim. Since she is MB (Mem Besar), her public role must be held up for scrutiny, especially by Selangorians like me.”
That Hannah Yeoh whom you constantly talk about is not even on the list of executive councillors. I would say an executive councillors has more power in the government than the speaker, as they have more power to draft policies.
According to hierarchy, the position of Speaker is No.2 in government should there be a Timbalan Menteri Besar. In Selangor there isn’t one.
The Selangor MB’s salary is RM29,250
Selangor Speaker’s salary is RM22,500
Selangor exco’s salary is RM20,250
“I have already clarified to AC-DC @ 2013/12/28 at 11:32 am that “evangelistas” is not equivalent to Christians just as Al-Arqam is not equivalent to Muslims.”
I just did a brief google search to find some of your past writings:
“Melampau! Kristian buat hal istilah ‘Tuhan’ orang Cina juga”
“Lagi-lagi pemerintah dituduh oleh Kristian sebagai “evil””
“Nampaknya Kristian Malaysia merasakan mereka dianiaya”
Not to mention your snarky attacks on Mujahid Rawa who is working to cement relations between both faiths.
In headline (3) ‘Nampaknya Kristian Malaysia merasakan mereka dianiaya’, it is valid to use the word “Christians” since the Christian community (and not just limited to evangelistas) have the siege mentality.
Also the Christians whine non-stop that they are being “persecuted” (dianiaya). It is the power-hungry evangelistas (particularly greedy DAP politicians) who are fanning this persecution complex among the Christians.
In headline (2), the topic refers to a TMI article (yes, that infamous portal that had to issue 4 apologies over a single week – including an apology to Tun and a separate one to Mukhriz – for their libel.
The word Christians cropped up because as I originally wrote: “Satu rencana TMI minggu lepas pada 5 Jun 2012 bertajuk ‘A message for Christians and God-fearing people‘. Perenggan pertamanya berbunyi: ‘To serve God is to speak out about evil as a sickness which should be brought to light so it can be cured. To serve God is to condemn evil in all its manifestations’.”
Since the TMI article focused on Christians, therefore logically my review of the TMI article must employ the same terminology.
Like I said, the evangelistas are in hyperdrive in their effort to incite hatred and cast the other side as “EVIL” (as quoted in the TMI article.)
As for headline (1), ‘Melampau! Kristian buat hal istilah ‘Tuhan’ orang Cina juga’, the posting was blogged on 29 Dec 2012 (4 days post-Christmas) and referred to Lim Guan Eng’s incitement of the CHRISTIAN community in his X’mas Day message.
Like you, LGE has been doing his darndest to escalate the conflict beyond one involving evanglistas vs Muslims, and trying to drag other faith communities such as the Sikh (whom the Dapsters keep insisting are also using the ‘Allah’ word), the Buddhists, Hindus and other to be on their (Christian) side.
As for Muhajid, his fellow Muslims see through him as well — ‘Adakah Mujahid PAS membayangkan kerajaan menegah Kristian daripada menyambut Krismas?‘ (my take) and other Malay bloggers have written their take too on his X’mas showboating.
To add:
referred to Lim Guan Eng’s incitement of the CHRISTIAN community in his X’mas Day message [[ on the Allah word ]].
Ac-DC
RE. Concerning the GST and price hikes in commodities, petrol, utilities, staple items, etc., we will certainly see the increased costs being passed down to the consumer.
If you have no idea how GST works, please refrain from giving comment. BODOH PIANG…
How does GST work in Malaysia?
In the current tax regime, the 10% Sales Tax (on manufacturing and imports) and 6% Service Tax (on the F&B and professional services industry) is collected by one party (usually the seller) and passed on to the tax authorities.
For example, in the previous 6% Service Tax regime, when you buy a cup of coffee from Starbucks that says RM15 on the menu, you pay RM15.90 (including the current Service Tax of 6%). Starbucks will keep RM15 and pass on RM0.90 to the tax authorities.
In a GST regime (6% GST in this calculation), the following happens:
1. Starbucks buys the coffee beans from the wholesaler to make your cup of coffee for RM10 (RM10+ 6% GST). The Wholesaler keeps RM10 and passes on RM0.60 from Starbucks to the tax authorities.
2. You buy that cup of coffee from Starbucks which the beans were used to make, and pay RM15.90 (RM15 + 6% GST). Starbucks now keeps RM15 and passes on RM0.30 to the tax authorities (RM0.90 – RM0.60). The reason why Starbucks only passes RM0.30 to the tax authorities is because they have effectively already ‘paid’ RM0.60 in tax earlier on the first RM10, and only RM0.30 tax is left to be paid on the RM5 “value-add”.
The final rate that was announced on 25 October 2013 was 6% GST, with the following items 0% rated (and thus exempt):
– Essential items such as: Rice, sugar, salt, flour, cooking oil among others
– Public transport (LRT, KTM, Buses)
– Sale and Rental of property
– Electricity consumption up to 200kwH (about RM50), presumably per month
http://savemoney.my/gst-in-malaysia-how-the-goods-and-services-tax-affects-you/
LOL,
Re: Starbucks now keeps RM15 and passes on RM0.30 to the tax authorities (RM0.90 – RM0.60).
Isn’t Starbucks suppose to keep RM15.60?
Miskin,
Read the articles with the link provided. 60sen will be collected upfront by Starbucks’ supplier as Gomen Tax. Thus Starbucks will be taxed solely on their volume of business, meaning, if they increase the price, thus their taxes will increase accordingly. They have to think twice in the long run…
P.S
Just being petty here, setiap perkataan itu adalah doa, while your moniker i.e Miskin (unless you are related to Jehan Miskin or someone bearing the same last name), signifies your state of being/feeling in this blog or others, the reality is if everybody start
calling you Miskin, it will become some sort of self-fulfilling prophecy.
“In headline (3) ‘Nampaknya Kristian Malaysia merasakan mereka dianiaya’, it is valid to use the word “Christians” since the Christian community (and not just limited to evangelistas) have the siege mentality.
Also the Christians whine non-stop that they are being “persecuted” (dianiaya). It is the power-hungry evangelistas (particularly greedy DAP politicians) who are fanning this persecution complex among the Christians.”
“The word Christians cropped up because as I originally wrote: “Satu rencana TMI minggu lepas pada 5 Jun 2012 bertajuk ‘A message for Christians and God-fearing people‘. Perenggan pertamanya berbunyi: ‘To serve God is to speak out about evil as a sickness which should be brought to light so it can be cured. To serve God is to condemn evil in all its manifestations’.”
Since the TMI article focused on Christians, therefore logically my review of the TMI article must employ the same terminology.
Like I said, the evangelistas are in hyperdrive in their effort to incite hatred and cast the other side as “EVIL” (as quoted in the TMI article.)”
But earlier you said that you differentiated between the so-called ‘evangelistas’ and Christians. Now, you contradict yourself and try to justify your action of lumping them together.
You took a sermon written by a Polish cleric and republished by Malaysian Insider, and used it out-of-context as a basis for another Christian-bashing piece.
“As for headline (1), ‘Melampau! Kristian buat hal istilah ‘Tuhan’ orang Cina juga’, the posting was blogged on 29 Dec 2012 (4 days post-Christmas) and referred to Lim Guan Eng’s incitement of the CHRISTIAN community in his X’mas Day message.
Like you, LGE has been doing his darndest to escalate the conflict beyond one involving evanglistas vs Muslims, …”
Reading the article in headline (1), one can certainly see your anti-Christian bashing in action. The person who wrote comment number ’21’ put it aptly when he said you had twisted the words of a Christian commenter.
So much for being able to differentiate between so-called ‘evangelistas’ and Christians.
“…and trying to drag other faith communities such as the Sikh…”
I believe the Sikhs have also voiced their concern towards this issue…
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/sikhs-will-use-allah-as-it-is-in-their-holy-scriptures-says-gurdwara-counci
It is naive to think the other communities are not affected by posturing from extremists such as Ibrahim Ali and Isma.
re: “But earlier you said that you differentiated between the so-called ‘evangelistas’ and Christians. Now, you contradict yourself and try to justify your action of lumping them together.”
I do differentiate. If I did not, why would I bother to use the word “evangelistas”? You’re just pretending to be thick so that you can putar-belit.
Since you’re (pretend-punya) thick in the head, here is a repeat: The TMI article of 5 June 2012 was titled ‘A message for Christians and God-fearing people’. So how could I – in blogging a response to that article – possibly have avoided using the word “Christian”?
It’s like if Harakah had an article about umat Islam and you, in your review of that article, avoid the use of the word “Muslims” but instead say “Al-Arqam”, can meh?
re: “You took a sermon written by a Polish cleric and republished by Malaysian Insider, and used it out-of-context as a basis for another Christian-bashing piece.”
It wasTMI that allowed a sermon written by a Polish cleric to be used out-of-context as a basis for another Malay-bashing piece. I’m not the first to notice TMI’s Christian agenda. Blogger JMD pointed out: “The Malaysian Insider has become a centre for malay bashing and the mecca for malays who agree and love the bashings they are getting, especially from the non malays.”
re: “Reading the article in headline (1), one can certainly see your anti-Christian bashing in action. The person who wrote comment number ’21’ put it aptly when he said you had twisted the words of a Christian commenter.”
Me? Hey, you people are the ones who are so brazen in making out white to be black, and black to be white, and can go as far as to say that Alvivi’s Bak Kut Teh is not a pork dish.
re: “So much for being able to differentiate between so-called ‘evangelistas’ and Christians.”
Your statement shows how you make blanket generalizations. Evangelistas are Christians despite that some view them as deviant Christians.
re: “…and trying to drag other faith communities such as the Sikh…”/”I believe the Sikhs have also voiced their concern towards this issue…”
Then you have to ask yourself why the Malays have not shown their anger against the Sikhs but only against the Christians? Secondly, you have to ask yourself what kind of people are you? The Malays and the Punjabis are not fighting but evangelistas are doing their utmost to drag the Sikhs into the controversy to keep them company.
re: “It is naive to think the other communities are not affected by posturing from extremists such as Ibrahim Ali and Isma.”
It is sickeningly duplicitous of the Chinese to pretend that Ibrahim Ali and Isma are someething that happened out of the blue and in a vacuum, as if the aggressive and bullying behaviour of the evangelistas had nothing to do with the emergence and rise of the evangelistas who provoke non-stop and greedily grab everything in sight.
“I do differentiate. If I did not, why would I bother to use the word “evangelistas”? You’re just pretending to be thick so that you can putar-belit.”
There you go again. First you say you do differentiate, then you justify your action of lumping them together, and now you claim you differentiate again… all while pulling a straight face.
“Since you’re (pretend-punya) thick in the head, here is a repeat: The TMI article of 5 June 2012 was titled ‘A message for Christians and God-fearing people’. So how could I – in blogging a response to that article – possibly have avoided using the word “Christian”?
It’s like if Harakah had an article about umat Islam and you, in your review of that article, avoid the use of the word “Muslims” but instead say “Al-Arqam”, can meh?”
Lets say for instance Harakah’s article said “Muslims should embark on a personal jihad to make the world a better place”. Then, somebody uses it as a basis for their post titled “Yet more Muslims planning jihad to remake the world in their favour”. Disingenuous, is it not?
“Me? Hey, you people are the ones who are so brazen in making out white to be black, and black to be white, and can go as far as to say that Alvivi’s Bak Kut Teh is not a pork dish.”
No, I just call it out as it is. You take something, add in unrelated elements and hyperbole, and then serve it up for your readers and commenters here to savour and pour forth their ignorance and prejudice towards a certain religious community.
“The Malays and the Punjabis are not fighting but evangelistas are doing their utmost to drag the Sikhs into the controversy to keep them company.”
So why has the Sikh community come out to express their sentiments on the issue? Why has Ridhuan Tee and Isma received criticism from leaders in the Hindu community?
“It is sickeningly duplicitous of the Chinese to pretend that Ibrahim Ali and Isma are someething that happened out of the blue and in a vacuum, as if the aggressive and bullying behaviour of the evangelistas had nothing to do with the emergence and rise of the evangelistas who provoke non-stop and greedily grab everything in sight.”
The government and their media needs a scapegoat to blame every now and then. First, it was The West and The Jews, then the Indians during the Hindraf protests, then the Chinese, next, the Christians, then some mythical Green Bean Army, and now, the fashion in-season is the Shia’.
It is not surprising that there is a link between the Barisan Nasional government and Perkasa. They have always been supporting them from behind the scenes. Not to mention the backing they have received from Tun Mahathir.
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/perkasa-admits-getting-aid-from-putrajaya
re: “There you go again. First you say you do differentiate, then you justify your action of lumping them together, and now you claim you differentiate again… all while pulling a straight face.”
Look, since you’re pretending to be kindergarten level, let me try to explain to you in the simplest terms I can conjure. I talk about deck chairs. A deck chair is a piece of furniture. Most of the time I “differentiate” by calling it specifically a deck chair. However, at other time I might necessarily have to use the word ‘furniture’. I do not see how using both terms is viewed as an anomaly by you and why you’re insisting that I must say “deck chair” all the time and you’re preventing me from saying “furniture” when at other times my description may include rocking chair, typist’s chair, dining chair, etc.
re: “No, I just call it out as it is. You take something, add in unrelated elements and hyperbole, and then serve it up for your readers and commenters here to savour and pour forth their ignorance and prejudice towards a certain religious community.”
Fine.
re: “So why has the Sikh community come out to express their sentiments on the issue? Why has Ridhuan Tee and Isma received criticism from leaders in the Hindu community?”
What has criticism from leaders in the Hindu community against Ridhuan Tee and Isma got to do with Ridhuan and Isma’s current popularity among the Malays because both are perceived as staunch of Islam which is being attacked by the evangelistas?
re: “The government and their media needs a scapegoat to blame every now and then. First, it was The West and The Jews, then the Indians during the Hindraf protests, then the Chinese, next, the Christians, then some mythical Green Bean Army, and now, the fashion in-season is the Shia’.”
Fine. You’re saying that the Umnoputras like to blame everyone else whereas the Chinese and the Christians are faultless.
re: “It is not surprising that there is a link between the Barisan Nasional government and Perkasa. They have always been supporting them from behind the scenes. Not to mention the backing they have received from Tun Mahathir.”
Everybody and his cat knows that. So what? At least try to dig deeper lah. Find out why and understand their reasons. If you dunno, ask. Since I’m not Malay and don’t think like a Malay, I dunno so I’m asking — in this blog. When I take the trouble to ask, some folks might be kind enough to explain.
Do Dapsters like you ever try to find out and to understand? Or you think you already know it all, and are clever enough to teach the Malays how to be real Malays and teach the Muslims how to be true Muslims?
“Look, since you’re pretending to be kindergarten level, let me try to explain to you in the simplest terms I can conjure. I talk about deck chairs. A deck chair is a piece of furniture. Most of the time I “differentiate” by calling it specifically a deck chair. However, at other time I might necessarily have to use the word ‘furniture’. I do not see how using both terms is viewed as an anomaly by you and why you’re insisting that I must say “deck chair” all the time and you’re preventing me from saying “furniture” when at other times my description may include rocking chair, typist’s chair, dining chair, etc.”
The problem is in the articles when you use the word ‘Christian’, you accuse them using the same flawed hyperbolic logic that you level at your so-called “evangelistas”.
It just the same as a critic who constantly criticises the Shia’ movement with spun facts and exaggeration, then on many other occasions, attack the Muslim community using the same broad brush he points at the al Arqam movement.
“What has criticism from leaders in the Hindu community against Ridhuan Tee and Isma got to do with Ridhuan and Isma’s current popularity among the Malays because both are perceived as staunch of Islam which is being attacked by the evangelistas?”
You think the clash between Isma will only be limited to your so-called “evangelistas”? We were discussing about hostility between Isma and other extremists with other non-Muslim, non-Christian faiths, so avoid trying to toss a red herring. The fact that there has been verbal sparring between Hindu, Sikh communities, the MCCBCHST, and others shows there is already conflict between the extremists versus other faiths.
“Everybody and his cat knows that. So what? At least try to dig deeper lah. Find out why and understand their reasons. If you dunno, ask. Since I’m not Malay and don’t think like a Malay, I dunno so I’m asking — in this blog. When I take the trouble to ask, some folks might be kind enough to explain.
Do Dapsters like you ever try to find out and to understand? Or you think you already know it all, and are clever enough to teach the Malays how to be real Malays and teach the Muslims how to be true Muslims?”
For a person who claims to be asking, you expand a lot of effort to whip up animosity of your readership towards the Christians, The Star newspaper, and now MCA, Khairy, and more recently, Najib.
re: “It just the same as a critic who constantly criticises the Shia’ movement with spun facts and exaggeration, then on many other occasions, attack the Muslim community using the same broad brush he points at the al Arqam movement.”
Pathetic strawman diversion. Syiah does not figure in my blog at all, and you’re just tying yourself in knots. What do you know about the Syiah anyway?
re: “The problem is in the articles when you use the word ‘Christian’, you accuse them using the same flawed hyperbolic logic that you level at your so-called “evangelistas”.”
Are you saying that the ‘evangelistas’ are only a figment of my imagination? Wait, don’t bother to answer. Their clash with the Muslim NGOs will come soon enough.
re: “You think the clash between Isma will only be limited to your so-called “evangelistas”? We were discussing about hostility between Isma and other extremists with other non-Muslim, non-Christian faiths, so avoid trying to toss a red herring. The fact that there has been verbal sparring between Hindu, Sikh communities, the MCCBCHST, and others shows there is already conflict between the extremists versus other faiths.
I think that the Hindus and Sikhs will be used as a cat’s paw by evangelistas. Just like how the PAS foot soldiers are used as cannon fodder by the DAP strategists.
re: “For a person who claims to be asking, you expand a lot of effort to whip up animosity of your readership towards the Christians, The Star newspaper, and now MCA, Khairy, and more recently, Najib.”
Do I need to “expand a lot of effort to whip up animosity” towards Najib? Hahahaha, what a novice you are.
“Pathetic strawman diversion. Syiah does not figure in my blog at all, and you’re just tying yourself in knots. What do you know about the Syiah anyway?”
Do you know what an analogy is?
“Are you saying that the ‘evangelistas’ are only a figment of my imagination? Wait, don’t bother to answer. Their clash with the Muslim NGOs will come soon enough.”
“I think that the Hindus and Sikhs will be used as a cat’s paw by evangelistas. Just like how the PAS foot soldiers are used as cannon fodder by the DAP strategists.”
You are going to be proven wrong, but I suppose you will keep going on, just like that mad “prophet” on the street corner who keeps predicting week after week that the end of the world will happen this week.
“Do I need to “expand a lot of effort to whip up animosity” towards Najib? Hahahaha, what a novice you are.”
Long winded articles take some time to write, no?
re: “Do you know what an analogy is?”
I can recognise an odikal when I see one. You’re it.
re: “Long winded articles take some time to write, no?”
‘1Clueless Najib‘ is 26 words and no, I’m not whipping up animosity; the PM does that well enough by himself.
“I can recognise an odikal when I see one. You’re it.”
Did you just say then when standing in front of the bathroom mirror? ;)
AD-DC can’t even compute three simple words, “You are it”?
They are confused because they are being led by an Evangelista who will not even acknowledge her race or her husband’s. Empty vessel…
“Then they make a show as if they such keen “bridge builders” between churches and mosques.”
And your articles is certainly not ‘bridge building’, but more toward ‘bridge burning’. Besides raising an anti Christian hysteria, you also condemn persons such as Mujahid Yusof Rawa for their work, condemn Khairy for not adopting a militant extremist stance, and condemn Najib for his consultative council.
“The rest of us (Buddhists, Hindus and other other non-Christians) don’t bother with the “bridge building” hypocritical posturing because our temples are not fighting with your mosques in the first place.”
http://news.malaysia.msn.com/tmi/muslim-group-says-rm10-million-klang-temple-will-send-out-wrong-message
A Muslim non-governmental organisation is against the rebuilding of a Hindu temple in Klang (pic) at a cost of RM10 million, saying it will create a negative impression among Muslim tourists from the Middle East and undermine the government’s Islamic credentials worldwide.
Ikatan Muslimin Malaysia (Isma) president Abdullah Zaik Abdul Rahman said such development is not covered in the Federal Constitution under freedom of religion because it exceeds the rationality of religious freedom.
http://kosmo.com.my/kosmo/content.asp?y=2011&dt=0723&pub=Kosmo&sec=Negara&pg=ne_10.htm
“Kami bukan membantah pembinaan kuil Hindu tetapi minta tidak dibina di kawasan ini yang cuma sembilan meter sahaja dari kediaman kami yang 95 peratus penduduknya beragama Islam.”
http://www.sinarharian.com.my/kolumnis/ridhuan-tee-abdullah/di-sebalik-cerita-batu-caves-1.103135
“Perlukah Batu Caves ditayangkan sepenuhnya untuk dilihat orang ramai dari lebuh raya. Bagaimana dengan sensitiviti orang Islam melihat patung-patung saban hari? Adakah perasaan mereka diambil kira?”
re: You quoted me — “our temples are not fighting with your mosques in the first place”
You dunno how to read properly, ah?
I said OUR Buddhist & Hindu temples are not fighting with your mosques.
You cite (1) Isma, (2) Taman Lagenda Suria Muslim residents, (3) Ridhuan Tee complaining about temples.
Isma, TLS residents and Ridhuan are not Buddhists or Hindus. They are not the voices speaking on behalf of temples and nor can they represent “OUR” temples.
What I’ve said is correct: “our temples are not fighting with your mosques”
Isma, TLS residents and Ridhuan wishing to pick a fight with our temples is the other way around and not what I said.
You Dapsters tahu saja hendak berputar-belit.
It looks like you are so blinded by hatred and vindictiveness that your comprehension skills have deteriorated.
Do you actually think there is no hostility being directed toward Buddhists and Hindus by the likes of extremists such as Isma, Perkasa, and Ridhuan Tee?
“Isma, TLS residents and Ridhuan are not Buddhists or Hindus. They are not the voices speaking on behalf of temples and nor can they represent “OUR” temples.
What I’ve said is correct: “our temples are not fighting with your mosques”
Isma, TLS residents and Ridhuan wishing to pick a fight with our temples is the other way around and not what I said.”
And is not “picking a fight with temples” a case of “temples fighting with mosques”? Religious animosity as a result of extremist behaviour from the likes of Isma and Ridhuan Tee toward other communities building their own places of worship?
re: “It looks like you are so blinded by hatred and vindictiveness that your comprehension skills have deteriorated.”
Same like how you perpetually hysterical Dapsters are always screaming that Malays are racists. Look in the mirror, will ya.
re: “And is not “picking a fight with temples” a case of “temples fighting with mosques”? Religious animosity as a result of extremist behaviour from the likes of Isma and Ridhuan Tee toward other communities building their own places of worship?”
If Isma, Ridhuan Tee and the residents of Taman Lembah Suria are directing their animosity at temples, then the hostility is coming FROM Isma, RT and TLS residents.
The hostility is not flowing FROM Buddhist and Hindu temples to the Muslims.
On the other hand, hostility is clearly coming from some churches and many Christians and this hostility is directed at Muslims and Umno.
Therefore some churches and Christians are indeed picking a fight with the Muslims in Malaysia. However our temples are NOT picking a fight with the Muslims.
What kind of a scumbag are you to putar-belit and drag temples into your Allah quarrel? Buddhists and Hindus are definitely not attempting to steal the word.
“If Isma, Ridhuan Tee and the residents of Taman Lembah Suria are directing their animosity at temples, then the hostility is coming FROM Isma, RT and TLS residents.
The hostility is not flowing FROM Buddhist and Hindu temples to the Muslims.”
To quote your words:
‘The rest of us (Buddhists, Hindus and other other non-Christians) don’t bother with the “bridge building” hypocritical posturing because our temples are not fighting with your mosques in the first place.
When you have extremists voicing their dislike of elements of other religions in this country, is that already a case of ‘temples fighting with mosques’ already?
Do not be a scumbag and be so intellectually dishonest as to try to worm your words out of their true meaning.
No wonder you struggle to find news websites willing to publish your writings!
re: “No wonder you struggle to find news websites willing to publish your writings!”
I do not struggle to find news websites willing to publish my writings. The trouble with Malaysia online today is cyber terrorism by Dapsters like you.
Just click on any readers’ feedback to articles by Dr M that have been reproduced in any of the English portals. Instead of addressing what he has to say (keeping to the topic), the comments are the usual insults about his mamak descent, mockery of his forefathers’ Kutty name and the predictable torrent of slander (like he has amassed tens of billions in fortune or whatever).
The problem is not with the writer. It is with the perpetually hysterical and delusional oppo supporters. What kind of people are you?
Filtering out the ad hominem attacks, there are comments and rebuttals that rightly criticise Mahathir for his hypocrisy, double standards, and errors in his thinking.
Do not delude yourself into explaining away the criticism to your faulty reasoning as merely ‘cyber mobbing’.
My reasoning is not faulty.
It is proven that you people are a mob. Your ‘mob’ism is on open display every day.
“My reasoning is not faulty.”
As I have said, do not delude yourself…
“It is proven that you people are a mob. Your ‘mob’ism is on open display every day.”
You mean like the efforts of Utusan and other fanatics such as Ibrahim Ali who try to drum up a mob against other races and religions? Or your tacit support for these people if the scapegoat for the season are Christians?
re: “As I have said, do not delude yourself…”
I have said that I’m willing to admit that I can be repetitive about the topics I put.
In the same vein, I shall repeat that you lot are irrational and hence your mob behaviour.
Re. It is proven that you people are a mob.
“Facebook removes Dr M’s ‘Chinese Dilemma’, cites violation of community standards”
http://my.news.yahoo.com/facebook-removes-dr-m-chinese-dilemma-cites-violation-073200752.html
When the truth hurts, they will go extra miles to delete it…
The Dapsters are cyber terrorists and the evangelistas are worse.
“The Dapsters are cyber terrorists and the evangelistas are worse.”
The Heat newspaper is suspended by the government until further notice for an article about Najib and Rosmah. All okay.
According to the Home Ministry, The Heat was suspended for menipu.
It applied for a permit to publish a business magazine but then its contents become like Selangor Times.
The second reason given by KDN was a technicality about change of ownership. Although personally I too would suspect that the Rosmah story had much to do with the suspension but still the paper has to answer to the Ministry going by the book.
That is their doing actually fyi…
“According to the Home Ministry, The Heat was suspended for menipu.
It applied for a permit to publish a business magazine but then its contents become like Selangor Times.”
From their website:
‘The Heat was originally approved on July 8, 2013 as a weekly publication under the “Economy/Social” category. Subsequently, it applied to change its category to “Current Affairs”. Approval was given on Sept 18, 2013.‘
That’s what they say. The Home Ministry is apparently saying something else.
ACDC..
One word untukmu..DUMB!!
hehe..tak kenal maka tak cinta. islam lah agama yang paling fleksibel sederhana dan menyeluruh
Always they say its love & peace. yet u see a man killed on the cross & they claimed him to be son of god. Is that what u mean by love & peace. killed tortureressly at the cross. can anybody with sound mind accept that.
Hahaha.. banyaknya jenis jesus depa ni… depa ni tak rasa pelik ke? Bible diubah ubah siap berbagai version.. jesus depa muka macam macam… huhu.. sungguh lawak.. hehe.. orang kena salib pastu kata dialah penyelamat.. aku ingat yg kena salib tu pun tak mau mati atas kayu hehe