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Pertembungan Isma dan evangelista

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Bangsa Melayu lwn Bangsa Malaysia

  • Isma mengiktiraf Tanah Melayu sebagai wilayah kedaulatan bangsa Melayu.
  • Evangelista menolak bahawa negara ini adalah tanah ‘Melayu’ tetapi sebaliknya menganggap Melayu juga kaum pendatang. Evangelista mempercayai semua warga adalah sama rata dan bersaudara (“brothers and sisters”).

Identiti Islam lwn identiti Kristian

  • Bagi Isma, Melayu dan Islam adalah identiti nasional kepada Malaysia.
  • Bagi evangelista, Melayu adalah identiti “rasis” dan Islam adalah identiti “pelampau agama” (religious bigotry).

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Perpaduan Melayu-Islam lwn perpaduan Cina-Kristian

  • Isma berpendirian bahawa penglibatan orang kafir dalam politik hanyalah di dalam hal melaksanakan hak yang bersesuaian dengan syariat Islam dan perlembagaan negara.
  • Evangelista berpendirian bahawa penglibatan NGO Islam dalam politik adalah melambangkan haluan kanan beserta NGO Islam yang mahu mengehadkan penggunaan ‘Allah’ (khusus bagi umat Islam sahaja) adalah setaraf Taliban dan Perkasa.

Aspek ruhi lwn aspek duniawi

  • Isma mengkehendaki pembangunan nasional berteraskan pandangan yang menyeluruh terhadap fungsi manusia yang berpaksikan aspek ruhi.
  • Evangelista mengkehendaki pembangunan nasional berteraskan fungsi manusia yang berpaksikan aspek produktiviti, daya saing dan senantiasa maju.

Negara Islam lwn negara Malaysian First

  • Isma meletakkan syariat Islam sebagai rujukan dalam pembuatan dasar dan perundangan.
  • Evangelista meletakkan syariat UBAH (prinsip boleh disesuaikan dengan musim dan keadaan) sebagai rujukan dalam pembuatan dasar dan perundangan.

ismaIsma masuk gelanggang kerana PAS sanggup menggadai prinsip Islamnya serta sedia bersekongkol dengan evangelista DAP manakala Pemuda Umno lembik dan Umno hilang arah dan perjuangan.

Manakala Isma telah membidas ‘Kenyataan Pakiam biadap dan menghina Najib‘, Umno pula membiar sahaja kepala presidennya dipijak Uskup Agung tanpa pembelaan.

Nama dan profil Isma semakin terserlah kerana orang Melayu cukup muak dengan PAS dan Umno. Kedua-dua parti Islam/Melayu tersebut sudah tidak bermaya serta tampak tidak terdaya untuk mengekang asakan demi asakan oleh evangelista. Ekoran itu laluan terbuka bagi Isma untuk menjadi kuasa ketiga dalam dunia politik Melayu.

Nota: Pendirian-pendirian politik Isma disalintampal dari laman sesawang rasmi pergerakan tersebut.

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45 thoughts on “Pertembungan Isma dan evangelista

  1. Helen,

    ‘UMNO pula membiarkan kepala Presidennya….”

    SEBENARNYA UMNO menghadapi masalah kerana Najib sendiri biarkan orang pijak kepalanya. Sudah berbuih mulut orang menegur Najib tetapi dia masih juga biarkan orang menghina, memfitnah dan memperbodohkan dirinya sendiri.

    Orang Melayu sebenarnya kecewa tengok Najib gelak ketawa dengan Guan Eng dalam majlis ramsi sambutan hari Natal di Pulau Pinang. TAK BOLEHKAH NAJIB beri penghormatan pada Sarawak atau sabah yang ramai Kristian dengan adakan acara disana. Lagipun bumiputera Kristian disana sokong BN.

    Sebaliknya kenapa pula beri penghormatan pada Pulau Pinang. Sanggup pula Najib beri pemghormatan pada Guan eng.

    Dimana maruah Najib sanggup bergelak ketawa dengan Guan eng yang tak habis habis fitnah sana sini.

    BERKENAAN Pemuda UMNO, itu betul.,Lembik mengalahkan pondan.

    1. re: “kenapa pula beri penghormatan pada Pulau Pinang”

      Setuju. Tak patut PM pergi Penang.

      re: “Di mana maruah Najib sanggup bergelak ketawa dengan Guan Eng yang tak habis-habis fitnah sana sini”

      Maruah Najib disimpan dalam luggage compartment bas yang dibawa Pemandu.

      1. Helen,

        Tak hairan kan bila bapa mertua saya sendiri kata dia kalau boleh nak terajang saja pemimpin UMNO.

        Najib seperti langsung tak kisah dihina. Mana maruah dia? inilah jadi sebab harapkan segala consultant yang banyak bawa musibah.

        1. Najib seperti langsung tak kisah dihina. Mana maruah dia? inilah jadi sebab harapkan segala consultant yang banyak bawa musibah.

          Sdr Shamsul….tak kira apa pendapat orang lain tetapi bagi saya dan kawan-kawan yang berdekatan kawasan saya, PM Najib adalah seorang ‘Melayu Liberal’. Malah beliau amat ‘liberal’ seperti KJ…!

          Pada kami….demi kelangsungan bangsa Melayu dan Islam khususnya, individu Melayu yang bersifat ‘liberal’ adalah tidak sesuai menjadi pemimpin atasan.

          Bangsa Melayu amat memerlukan seorang pemimpin yang kental jatidiri Melayunya, mantap keimanan Islamnya….!

          Dilema kita ialah…siapa?

          1. Alwie,

            Saya juga fikir begitu. Saya fikir Muhyidin nampak lebih “melayu” dan juga kelihatan “lebih beriman”.

      2. Helen,

        ISMA, PERKASA ujud dan berkembang subur menunjukkan orang Melayu berasa tak selamat di bawah UMNO mahu pun PAS.

        Kenapa fenomena ini tiada di zaman Tun? Sebab Tun tegas dan tak bagi muka pada ahli politik tak guna seperti Kit Siang, Anwar. Orang Melayu dan bukan Melayu hidup aman di zaman Tun.

        Kita tahu jangan buat perangai hasut di zaman Tun. Cara Tun amat berkesan. ISA jawapannya. Kita boleh kata apa saja tetapi rakyat setuju dengan ISA.

        Najib dah tenggelam punca. Dia “terisah” dengan Melayu. Sebab Najib tidak cuba memahami Melayu. Najib serahkan tugas memahami Melayu pada segala “makmal”. Buat apa buang duit begini.

        Ada cara “free’. Cuba lepak di Kota kemuning sarapan di gerai. Dan berbual dengan pengunjung gerai. Cuba buat secara spontan.

        Najib masih tak sedar bahawa tiada siapa hormnat dia sebab mansuhkan ISA. Orang memuji dia tetapi dalam hati mereka kata ‘bodoh nya PM ni”.

          1. Helen,

            Ya. Najib “terpisah” dari kenyataan. dia cuba nak jadi popular. Bukan itu yang melayu mahu. Orang melayu kecewa melihat Najib sempat bergelak ketawa dengan Guan Eng yang sepanjang masa fitnah UMNO(Melayu).

            Orang melayu kecewa kerana walaupoun mereka sudah hilang sabar dengan tindak tanduk DAP ni, tetapi Najib buat tak peduli.

            Najib ingat “cool” itu hebat. Pada Melayu tidak tunjukkan kemahuan pertahankan maruah adalah dayus.

          2. Bukan kah ahli2 isma juga pernah menyertai umno. Seperti juga pkr dan pas.

            Sebenarnya harus ada re-education. Redefine objectives.

            1. Bila pula ISMA menyertai UMNO? ISMA bukan serpihan UMNO. Jauh sama sekali kedua-dua kumpulan ini.

    2. Re. Setuju. Tak patut PM pergi Penang.

      “Beliau berkata demikian ketika menyampaikan ucapan perasmian Majlis Rumah Terbuka Malaysia Krismas di Padang Kota Lama di sini, semalam.”

      It is federal function not a state function.

      http://www.bharian.com.my/bharian/articles/Najibgesarakyatcarititikpertemuanpupukperpaduanpelbagaikaum/Article/

      re: “Di mana maruah Najib sanggup bergelak ketawa dengan Guan Eng yang tak habis-habis fitnah sana sini”

      What do you expect him to do? Wrestle Iguana Eng to the ground etc.

      1. Why did not the federal functionaries organize the event in Sabah or Sarawak which have got the most Christians?

        re: “Wrestle Iguana Eng to the ground etc.”

        Hahaha. Like another commenter has said, Najib is too much of a gentleman. Iguana Eng is a streetfighter.

        1. Re. Why did not the federal functionaries organize the event in Sabah or Sarawak which have got the most Christians?

          It is a business decision, first, Penang doesn’t have a local festival that attracts tourist on yearly basis like that of Sabah and Serawak, Keamatan, Gawai; second, Penang is a favorite Mat Salleh’s destination during this time of the year; third, In Sabah and Serawak, Christmas is more of a family affair unlike here i.e. the concept of rumah terbuka.

          Btw, any tweet from Mama Dapster about x-mas and her open house for Jerusubang. I wonder where she shop for x-mas this year?

          1. re: “I wonder where she shop for x-mas this year?”

            She will claim that she shops in Little India, Klang … wakakakaka

        2. Helen,

          it is not just the matter that Sarawak and Sabah have many Christians. It is a matter of respect that Najib should accord these 2 states that deliver seats to BN.

          These 2 states may not cry out loud for recognition on this matter. But surely it is “so nice” to see Najib accords these states with respect.

          Bottom line is why gives prominence to Guan Eng in Federal function.

      2. LOL..

        Seperti juga Shamsul, saya amat menyampah, meluat melihat gambar najib bergelak ketawa dengan LGE..

        Yup.. kami tahu akan alasan najib ke sana.. tapi tahap menyampah kami dengan najib ni dah ke tahap maksimum.

        1. Saya PAHAM Tuan Tuan dan Puan Puan,

          Tapi jadi KETUA NEGARA tak boleh IKUT EMOSI, kena banyak sabar.. kalau tidak hura hara negara.

          1. LOL,

            Masalah Najib ialah ia tak tunjukkan “emosi” langsung. seolah olah tiada perasaan bila ia, isterinya, UMNO, Melayu, islam difitnah.

    3. Ah Jib Gor tidak dikurniakan Allah kebijaksanaan sebagaimana Allah mengurniakanNya kepada Tun M. Ah Jib Gor seorang PM syok sendiri. Semakin dia tunjukkan sifat “gentlemannya” yang tak kena pada tempat, semakin terhakis perasaan hormat terhadapnya.

      1. Allah kurniakan LGE dan memberikan kemenangan besar pada Pakatan untuk menyedarkan UMNO harus berhati-hati dalam mengurus Negara ini.

        1. ‘Malaysian’ mana ada kemenangan besar. BN – UMNO still ruling country.

          LGE cannot even count (cec also failed) you want him to run the country; karpal will say ‘ over my dead body’

        2. Re. harus berhati-hati dalam mengurus Negara ini.

          This is best joke before we end 2013.

          Haven’t you heard Selangor Darul Sampah, or Penang FDI and Budget Deficit?

      2. Anonymous,

        Najib bukan “gentlemen’. Tun is a gentlement. He is courteus yet firm. He is flexible but he draws the line clearly.

        Sorry to say. Najib’s behaviour is anything but gentlemanly.

  2. This confrontation between these two major religions reached its heights in the 11th century when Pope decided to launch the crusade. Nothing is ever the same since, Helen.

    Looking at our political landscape and the rise of liberal Malays, the modern era “crusade” is, somewhat, walk-in-the-park.

    As you’re very much aware, the repercussions from this is inevitably, *touch wood* ugly! I pray it would not come to that.

  3. Helen,

    I’m not as worried about ISMA as I am about what’s going on with the younger Malay-Muslims (or among some I’ve overheard talking at a gerai). There was talk about the need to re energise Jemaah Islamiah in Malaysia and also building bridges with al-Qaeda. It seems there exist amongst us Malay Muslims who are members of JI and al-Qaeda as well as thgose who have experince fighting for Islam in the Philippines. There was also talk about suicide bombers.

    The more provocations that come from the ‘other side’, the more extremist will be the response. I have a strong suspicion that PDRM is aware of these developments but do not want to alarm the general public with the official confirmation of this.

    I don’t know how much currency you can give to this but one blogger has come out with a warning about a suicide bomber ‘doing his thing’ on 31 December 2013!

  4. Helen,

    Sudah berbuih rasanya kita bercakap mengenai bahayanya bila orang melayu di himpit ke satu penjuru tanpa henti..

    Saya yakin orang cina tahu akan perkara ini tetapi mengapa masih dibiarkan cina kristian ini bertindak seolah olah mewakili seluruh orang cina malaysia?

    1. re: “mengapa masih dibiarkan cina kristian ini bertindak seolah olah mewakili seluruh orang cina malaysia?’

      Kenapa orang Cina 90 peratus yang telah menolak BN juga, pada masa yang sama, menghina MCA dengan begitu teruk sekali? Pada hemat saya, DAP adalah perosak (destructive).

      DAP 3.0 evanglista memupuk perasaan benci di kalangan masyarakat Cina. Cengkaman minda ini menghindar orang yang termakan dakyah mereka daripada berfikir dengan kritis dan waras.

  5. Why ISMA and not JAIS, Yg Bhg Sdr berryaddict?
    (Re.TMI: We will keep using Allah, 27th Dec 2013)

    JAIS’s core business is to clarify with our kids, and Christian kids on Allah Bapa- Anak- Ruhul Qudus confusion vs Tawhid.

    “There is no rest for the wicked!”
    — Book of Isaiah (48: 22)

    Haji M Zin
    Alor Gajah DPH

  6. Both ISMA and the Evangalists are fighting fire with fire. In the end, the whole country is burnt. Both are coming from diagrammatically opposite view points – how can a compromise ever be reached?

    The sad thing is that the principles and the intentions of the Rukun Negara have been long forgotten.

    Where is the sopan santun and tatasusilaan in our national discourse? Where is the membina negara maju dan moden? Now it is all just arguing about religion and race while the world moves ahead.

    1. Re. The sad thing is that the principles and the intentions of the Rukun Negara have been long forgotten.

      Correction. Pakatan via Anwar Ibrahim has systematically dismantled it piece by piece, if you follow the event closely:

      1. Kepercayaan Kepada Tuhan – Gone for some
      2. Kesetiaan Kepada Raja dan Negara – Gone
      3. Keluhuran Perlembagaan – Gone
      4. Kedaulatan Undang-Undang – Gone
      5. Kesopanan dan kesusilaan – Gone

  7. Do you think Isma’s bigotry will be limited only to the Christians? They have expressed their hostility towards other races and religions, including Hindus, Shia Muslims, and Sunni Muslims who do not agree with their firebrand and extremist interpretation of the religion.

    1. The reason for Isma’s rise and rise is the provocation of the evangelistas.

      If there are no evangelistas to provoke the Muslims, Isma would not have a market.

      1. If that is true, then the object of their ire would be limited to Christians.

        However, as we see from the media reports, they have verbally clashed with other non Muslim minorities, such as their objection towards the Hindu temple in Klang. Even Muslims who do not follow their extreme practices are also verbally attacked.

        1. You really lack critical thinking.

          I said the “rise and rise” of Isma is due to the provocation of the evangelistas. I didn’t say that the existence of Isma is due to the provocation of the evangelistas.

          Isma can exist and be hostile to Hindus, Buddhists and pagans but it doesn’t mean that the general Malay public will support Isma in the group’s hostility to the non-Muslims.

          The general Malay public is however supporting Isma in the group taking on the evangelistas.

          We are talking about why the Malays are supporting Isma. Since Buddhists have not caused any offence to the Muslims (b’cos Buddhists are not using the Allah word), why should Malays throw their support behind Isma if Isma were only being hostile to Buddhists?

          Isma can be hostile to Buddhists, Hindus, pagans, but this will not win Isma the kind of support that the group is now getting for defending Islam from the onslaught of the evangelistas.

          1. “Isma can be hostile to Buddhists, Hindus, pagans, but this will not win Isma the kind of support that the group is now getting for defending Islam from the onslaught of the evangelistas.”

            That does (and did) not stop them from displaying hostility to other communities, besides the Malaysian Christians. Do not miss the forest for the trees.

            For a group that purportedly receives general support, they failed to get more than several percent of the vote in the election. But then again, it is your tendency to make things bigger than they always seem; Perkasa, Mahathir’s influence versus Khairy, etc.

            1. re: “That does (and did) not stop them from displaying hostility to other communities”

              Of course they can but their sphere of influence will be limited to Isma members alone.

              However with 77 percent of Malays against Christians using ‘Allah’ (according to Umcedel survey, Isma is getting wider support.

              re: “Do not miss the forest for the trees.”

              You are the one lost in the woods.

              As for Isma’s preformance in GE13, what did you expect. All the 3rd party candidates, including PSM’s Arul and Saras, HRP’s Uthaya and Jeffrey’s STAR candidates failed to get the votes.

              Their influence is not measured by vote count. Dr M is very influential. He doesn’t take part in elections.

              1. Unlike the Arabs, West Malaysian Malays emotionally refuse to recognise any challenge to dilute Aqidah ‘Tawhid’ because attributing partners to Allah SWT and even supporting it is most serious blasphemy, Syirik.
                (al-Quran 4:48, just Google the word)

                So right or wrong, beliefs do not change Yg Bhg Ms Helen,
                and really not easy to change.

                Not only ISMA but on this, all Muslim politicians and PAS grassroots are united for once heheh. I hope the explanations suffice.

                Haji M Zin
                Alor Gajah DPH

  8. terlalu banyak y memberi komen berdasarkan pemikiran sendiri.. get full understanding of what agenda they are trying to do. both to ISMA and evangalistas.

    Meet their head, then conclude..

    my 20 cents

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