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Why S’pore Times picked on Umno and not on DAP?

The Straits Times published an editorial headlined ‘Need for cool heads in Malaysia’ which was reproduced in the Jakarta Post.

The ST editorial touched on “the hardening of positions over the ‘Allah’ issue” in “these religiously fraught times”.

Commenting on the recent attack on a church in Penang and the vandalising of a Christian cemetery in Kuantan, the Singapore paper said the incidents “show how sentiment can turn irrational”.

It fears that Malaysia is looking at “a troubling lurch towards intolerance” and recommends that Anwar Ibrahim’s “evaluation that tensions have reached a ‘dangerous crescendo’ should be heeded”.

It also urged the religious heads to restrain the emotion of their flock and put the onus on the Umno leadership to convince the Malay that Islam is not under threat.

For the government-owned and strictly controlled broadsheet ST to produce the editorial, the Singapore government must be concerned about developments in Malaysia. Likewise Jakarta too for the Jakarta Post to carry the piece.

It seems that Umno and Muslims are being blamed while DAP and the Christians are being let off the hook.

The evangelistas and their strong network in the media (The J-Star, online portals and the international aggregators (Yahoo! News, Google News, MSN News) have recorded a most laudable success in playing the victimhood game.

Check out ‘The Allah’ issue in perspective – Part 1‘ and Part 2.

Please read the above links because the two-part article is published in the global MSN (which stands for Microsoft Network) no less.

MSN News bills itself as offering “compelling headlines, videos and photos delivered around the clock to keep you informed of the stories everyone is talking about today”.

The Malay Muslims have totally lost the match in the English media which is eating out of the hands of the evangelistas and will just have to continue relying on Utusan. Elsewhere the Malay Muslims just have no voice.

Another reason you should read the aforementioned MSN link is because the cited ‘Allah’ article is written by

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109 thoughts on “Why S’pore Times picked on Umno and not on DAP?

  1. I dont see christians going around and placing molotov cocktails in churches.

    sorry helen, irrelevant post, we all know who is the heated head!

    1. “Didn’t see” NOT “Don’t see”, Oh My English lor! All broken-broken, still wanna write maliciously in English some more. How you know you don’t see Christians did it meh? How you know they were not even Christians in the first place? Not wearing big cross when throwing the molotovs ar? So they wore kopiah lar, that you wanna say eh?

      Eh hallo! If you saw what happened, and have an inkling who did it with such heated heads, you should stop it from happening lar, don’t just SEE only then talk-talk. Stop it from happening for the love for Allah and Isa lor, don’t just accuse-accuse, Allah and Isa don’t like accuse-accuse meh. That’s syaitan’s work know, not nice. (P.S. What word to use when refererring to the devil ah? Hundreds of years ago, they used “Allah” but how about the word “devil”, translate too ar?)

      1. Actually the word “dont” (sic), being in the present perfect tense, refers to an ongoing state of affairs and is grammatically more appropriate in the context than “didn’t”, which is in the past tense and requires reference to a specific time or event in the past.

        As an example:-

        a) I don’t see many foreigners in Malaysia. (correct)
        b) I didn’t see many foreigners in Malaysia. (wrong)
        c) I didn’t see many foreigners in Malaysia before 1990. (correct)

        Nothing against your comment; I just find your mistaken attempt to correct his/her grammar ironic.

  2. indoneesia 400 million muslims …….. singapore stuck in the middle.

    domino effect

    A cumulative effect produced when one event sets off a chain of similar events:

  3. Why S’pore Times picked on Umno and not on DAP?

    The answer is obvious laaa, Helen.

    S’pore Times run by Chinese. UMNO is Malay and DAP is Chinese.

    Got it?

  4. Helen,

    Precisely. Being a Malay based political party means that UMNO is automatically guilty to “who’s who” in Singapore .

    The problem with UMNO is inaction. UMNO simply refuses to act although it has power, obligation, authority to act.

    The most recent case of Theresa Kok’s insulting CNY greeting is a good example. Apparently even with power as the leading party that forms the Federal Government, UMNO stil unable to charge Theresa Kok .

    Najib and his entire administration is detached from reality. Cant he see that the video mocking Datin Rosmah simply because she was the guest of honour in Lim Choong Wei’s wedding reception is actually part of agenda to incite people to hate BN.

    “tak ada seorang pun kah dalm pentadbiran Najib yang dapat ajar mereka yang kurang ajar begini. Tak boleh ke buat tuduhan menghina dan menghasut rakyat membenci pemimpin negara?”

    1. re: ““tak ada seorang pun kah dalm pentadbiran Najib yang dapat ajar mereka yang kurang ajar begini”

      Ade Menteri Kangkung dalam pentadbiran Najib sendiri yang perangainya macam Dapster, yang setiausahanya Dapster dan nalurinya mendorong dia tu kepada puak Dapster — Anwar 2.0 orang tu.

    2. Shamsul,

      I read you loud and clear.

      I also feel that BN more so UMNO is not doing enough in retaliation. Having said that, if BN/UMNO were to ‘retaliate’ it would just be as bad if not worse. The oppo would just label them further as being racist. It would just provide the oppo more ammunition to degrade and run the government further to the ground ( not like they aren’t doing it).

      Even the case of teresa whatever’s video – the authorities are looking into this matter but have you read the comments and accusations being hurled out. They make her look like an angel.
      She has done no wrong so why investigate.

      Right now BN/UMNO is in a ‘ damn you do damn you don’t ‘ situation. I am sure they are itching to take drastic action but it would just add fuel to fire.

      I am full of angst but…..

      1. re: “The oppo would just label them further as being racist.”

        The oppo cannot sink their labelling any further, they’ve hit rock bottom in badmouthing Umno. Their ardents supporters already consider Umno as syaitan.

        Under these irreparable circumstances, no need to worry any more about what perception the opposition-supporting public think. They live in their own bubble. Instead Umno should just go all out — prick the bubble and let it burst.

      2. Fazillah,,

        I am not asking UMNO to retaliate. I am expecting UMNO to be firm. Send the message that there is a limit to joke. Send the message that inciting racial tension is a no no.

        Even if Prophet Muhammad SAW( pbuh) is the President of UMNO(example only), HE will still be mocked. DAP will insinuate as he is a Malay. a powerful Malay ruling the nation. To them, an ideal Malay based party must be like joker PAS. Ever willing to kowtow to DAP .To DAP a Malay based party is supposed to be weak and remove from any possibility of power.

        Na jib is cool. but too cool sends the message of “detached from reality”, “unable to control situation the way a PM is expected to do’.

        ARE YOU SAYING BY BEING SO NICE AND SO FULLFILLING of Chinese requests make Najib a “darling” to Chinese community.

        Instead they ‘slapped” his face, entirely rejected his government. He looks like an idiot only. At the most defining moment of UMNO’s existence, it is the malays who again “HOLD the fort” . Had not for their wisdom, UMNO is already “bungkus” and whatever cherished by Malay community will be literally thrown away.

        THERE IS NO NEED TO REINVENT THE WHEEL. Even the cordial Tun Hussein showed that his government tolerated no nonsense. Najib can be friendly. By all mean if he loves to be so friendly, nobody is stopping him.

        But his government is under attack. YET he adopts the policy of helping those who want him dead. And he looks down to very people who support him.

        MPKN itu apa? What message is Najib sending by appointing Marina, wardina?

        1. re: “What message is Najib sending by appointing Marina, wardina?”

          What message is Menteri Kangkung sending by appointing Regina?

          1. Helen ang,

            Yup. You said it all. There is the feeling of “tiredness” among malay community. Tired of being looked down by Najib and his entire administration.

            We are actually tired of defending Najib administration. Tired because Najib is “at war” with us.

            Tired because Najib cant bother appreciate that Khairi having Regina as [political secretary is equivalent of having “musang dalam reban ayam”.

            We miss dearly Tun Dr Mahathir’s no nonsense approach. We miss the good old days.

            1. re: ” Najib is ‘at war’ with us”

              His PMO media operatives also at war with pro-establishment bloggers.

    3. If you did put your ear to the ground, you will know that the pro Barisan Nasional bloggers, aligned to Mahathir, are also criticising and condemning Rosmah.

      Why is there a double standard? Teresa Kok gets blamed for criticising Rosmah, but the Mahathir-friendly bloggers get away with it.

      Now they are even criticising the AES implementation. Last year, they were condemning the Opposition for doing the same!

    4. Rhetoric of diplomacy. Laws are made to be broken (legally) by elected law makers, unfortunate for commoners bound by this same laws and always prosecuted.

  5. Malang sekali mempunyai pemimpin/pemerintah yang lemah. Bukan pasal Anwar atau PR yang kuat, tapi sikap takut dan teragak-agak Najib boleh membawa masalah. Sikap tidak apa ini membuatkan mereka makin berani.

    1. And guess what, wardina who heads MIZAN wrote an open letter to the spore authorities on this issue.

      When islam is being belittled in her own backyard, takde open letter. Why?

      1. How could she, she admire Koya what!, She also retweets, tweets yang berbunyi, ‘dah dapat Allah, jangan lah tak buat apa yang Allah suruh’ or something like that, have to check her twits history to verify…

        Memang spesen puak-puak ni, tapi nak buat macam mana, ketua Yadim propose nama dia kat Ah Jib kut???

  6. Re: The most recent case of Theresa Kok’s insulting CNY greeting … UMNO stil unable to charge Theresa Kok .

    No, no, no. We all got it wrong, we just don’t understand cantonese/mandarin. It is our misunderstanding that is causing the problem , as explained by LKS here. (Make sure you read on an empty stomach)

    http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2014/02/04/najib-should-invite-teresa-kok-to-screen-her-11-minute-video-onederful-malaysia-cny-2014-and-give-proper-translation-of-the-cantonese-mandarin-dialogue-and-background-at-the-cabine/

    Now, I’m going to enjoy this old song –

    [YouTube]

    1. The problem is not Umno ministers being unable to understand Cantonese. The crux of it is why are the so called Anak Bangsa Malaysia using Cantonese which a large section of the general public is unable to understand.

      Teresa Kok is the DAP vice chairman. Is her party only catering to Cantonese speakers. Where is their Malaysian First?

      Astounding how they have failed to use the national language and after that berani pula turn around and accuse the Umno ministers of failing to speak and Cantonese. Kurang ajar betul!

      1. Dap ni ikut suka hati dia.

        Hari tu dia champion BM for Christians
        Sebelum itu dia champion Anak Bangsa Malaysia
        CNY dia champion cantonese
        Kalau campur dengan Dong Zhong dia champion mandarin in school

        Lepas tu dia putar alam semua yang terjadi berpunca dari Umno walaupun perkataan dikeluarkan dari mulut mereka dan perbuatannya hasil dari mereka juga.

        The police said they are opening a file and an investigation into the TKok video fiasco. Let’s see how far this will go. I think Malaysians from all walks would have more respect for the government if for once they see this case through into the court of justice. Dah letih la tengok dapsters ni mempersendakan Rukunegara.

        1. What about people like Zul Nordin, Ibrahim Ali and Ridhuan Tee? Not to forget Utusan. I don’t see any action being taken on them. Why the double standard?

      2. Folks, can’t you see the SKJC for what it truly is? It’s little to do with promoting the best of Chinese civilizational virtues and religious values. Is it too far-fetched to ask who’s running the vice syndicates in this country?

        I am personally acquainted with excellent “Confucian” character types schooled in Singapore’s educational establishment who are effectively bilingual in English and Chinese as well …. let’s get back to basic Malaysian mainstream integrated schools of quality and integrity for one and all.

  7. “It seems that Umno and Muslims are being blamed while DAP and the Christians are being let off the hook.”

    Not sure how u get the idea on who were blamed, I read the article, n reread, it “seems” fair n balance.

    1. Umno is mentioned by name in the article while DAP is not.

      If the Malays are being faulted for reacting to provocation, kenapa pula pihak yang buat provokasi itu terlepas sahaja?

      1. Betul yang all provocation is deemed from umno and muslims. Tapi mulut muslims yang dalam pkr, dap dan pas zipped up by the goons that head pakatan.

        Squeal and you bear the consequences.

      2. It was the ‘Kerajaan pimpinan Umno’ that prohibited the AlKitab, Bup Kudus, the Herald, and other Bahasa Malayu Christian literature.

        1. Not totally prohibited lah. There is the court decision on the Herald. The court is not Umno (which is a political party). The court is the third separate and independent arm of the state.

          The Alkitab has been seized by Jais, which is an Islamic agency in SELANGOR — a Pakatan-ruled state. Umno does not have control over Jais. It appears that Jais reports to Mais which reports to the Sultan.

          DAP has been instrumental in creating delusional Dapsters, feeding the perpetual hysteria and spreading hate. It should have been mentioned in the ST editorial.

            1. I’ve already said I think the seizure of the Bup Kudus was a wrong move, so there is no need for you to terus ungkitkan.

              As for the prohibition on the Alktiab, I said it is not “totally” prohibited. After all, the “Insya Allah” MP of Serdang Ong Kian Ming tweeted that he has 2 copies in his house and challenged Jais to raid him.

              1. “I’ve already said I think the seizure of the Bup Kudus was a wrong move, so there is no need for you to terus ungkitkan.”

                Bottom line, it still was banned by the government.

                Only after the outcry did they do a volte-face.

                1. Let the Sarawakians resolve their own issues with the federal government. Taib Mahmud has a rein on things there.

        1. Quote:

          “attacks on a church in Penang over unacknowledged Allah banners and the vandalising of a cemetery in Kuantan show how sentiment can turn irrational. It is a troubling lurch towards intolerance. There had in recent years been other church arsons and a cow-head stomping directed at Hindus over a temple’s location. Mosques have been targeted, too.”

          […]

          “… Malay traditionalists regard political control and the supremacy of Islam as linked”

    2. HY. You have been brainwashed by the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew with his 14 failed Policies for Singapore. You conveniently forgot the brilliant Lee wiped out your beloved Nantah and the Singaporean Chinese Schools from the face of the earth in the 1960s. Anglo. Anglo. You are now a DODO.

      1. ak, i am having a very very serious discussion, i entertain u later when i have more time, so a very very short one, lky allow only anglo school because he know most anglo can be easily brainwashed. just look at u, a umno ass kisser. if u live in spore, u sure kiss lky ass.

    1. You use the words “hate” and “killing”.

      Read my article above again. I do not use the words “hate” and “killing”.

      You keep disgorging your perpetual hysteria like a broken record. Very soon you’ll succeed in convincing my blog readership that Dapsters are indeed delusional.

  8. That Kee Thuan Chye was a colleague at NST. Didn’t know that he had such a small mind. As for that other guy in the picture, he spells racist loud and clear.

  9. I blame the prolonged and worsening scenario on najib… a supreme idiot and a mega coward. He fears losing support he has already lost. How I miss mahathir’s swift and decisive reactions to troubles, perceived and real.

    1. Dear Encik Idris,

      If commenters like you keep calling the PM names, then the DDoS attacks on my blog will never cease.

      For the record, I do not agree that the YAB is like what you claim. I feel that he is merely slow in reacting, like a kura-kura. However the flip side to the lack of speed is his slowness to anger (i.e. his superhuman tolerance). And don’t forget that in the race between the Hare and the Tortoise, the tortoise won in the end.

      1. Nope, a supreme idiot he is!

        Anda mahu Psy, Anda mahu Psy? Tell me Helen, which PM does that? Pak Lah Bedawi pun tak buat macam tu!

        Tun M, jauh sekali, I don’t think he will be begging the Cinas, like Ah Jib did and was booed in return.

              1. I wonder if they have a special software that escalates DDoS attacks in response to phrases such as ‘Na##b bodoh’?

                1. :) :) :)

                  Did you know that among the paralyzed blogs are Apanama? If you’ve been following the saga, you can connect the dots fairly conclusively.

                  Okay readers, if you want the blockage on my blog to ease off, NO CALLING THE PM NAMES, okay.

  10. The ST prides itself in being very professional in the news gathering and publishing but in putting out the diutorial, they showed very amateurish traits.

    How sure is ST that the church attack was not staged by some Christians themselves? Have writers really gone to the ground in Malaysia and try to find out for themselves what the Malays really think of the Allah issue.

    And does ST know that this whole ruckus was started by these irresponsible and belligerent Christians themselves, from the very beginning?

    Or does ST want half of the Malay population in the Semenanjung to run amok, killing everyone on their path, until they cannot find anymore people to kill in Malaysia, prompting them to proceed into the heart of Singapore to…

    1. ‘Or does ST want half of the Malay population in the Semenanjung to run amok,…’

      Ahh, the Cinas will run to their white master and ask for ‘raining drones’ instead..

    2. “Or does ST want half of the Malay population in the Semenanjung to run amok, killing everyone on their path, until they cannot find anymore people to kill in Malaysia, prompting them to proceed into the heart of Singapore to…”

      How much ketum have you been taking?

      What will actually happen is Singaporean troops doing a victory march down Dataran Merdeka.

      1. Re. What will actually happen is Singaporean troops doing a victory march down Dataran Merdeka.

        You think so?

        You think the Malaysian Troops do not have an equal fighting chance?

        Who do you think was behind the Black Hawk Down Operation aka Battle of Mogadishu in 1993?

        You think majority of Muslim Males and Women in this Country despite having no military background are not yearning to die as martyrs in the name of Jihad? But Can you say the same about the Chinese and Indians?

        Re. How much ketum have you been taking?

        Maybe you should have asked yourself, how many/much ecstasy, ice and the likes of synthetic drugs you have had over the CNY weekend in return; for the record these are the vices of the Chinese youth and professionals, so much so once upon a time, MCA did launch a campaign over this in the PUB and Discotheques, but the problem is still pervasive and is just being swept under the carpet until now.

        1. re: “how many/much ecstasy, ice and the likes of synthetic drugs you have had over the CNY weekend”

          Hahaha. No need lah. He got his high from the extra services over the weekend at City Harvest.

          1. That one is for confession session after the vices, that usually start with “forgive me father for I have sins…”.ROTFL

        2. Singapore’s military outnumbers us in reserve and active personnel. Their army, navy, and air force outmatches us in technology and training. Every Singaporean male has some military experience, while many Malaysians still think we can shoot rifles with one hand like in Hollywood movies.

          We and Singapore are allies of the United States. But who do you think they will choose to support in an extremely unlikely event of racial religious lunatics such as Husin Rahman going crazy and attacking Singapore?

          Sorry boy, but I do not do ice or ecstasy. You should look at the drug menace of heroin, amphetamine, and syabu that is afflicting the Malay youth in great numbers.

          1. AC-DC,

            And make no mistake that designer drugs too affect chinese youth. Bro, it affects everybody, not limited to one race only.

            As for Singapore, it needs us the way we cant ignore them to. Make no mistake. Singapore is changing too. Singaporeans are critical of PAP just like you cant find anything good about Federal government( UMNO).

            1. “As for Singapore, it needs us the way we cant ignore them to. Make no mistake. Singapore is changing too. Singaporeans are critical of PAP just like you cant find anything good about Federal government( UMNO).”

              That is correct. I am actually pleased to see more political debate and criticism of the PAP and Lee Kwan Yew, who is simply a more “successful” mirror image of Mahathir.

                1. AC-DC,

                  You are right about LKY being more successful than Tun

                  LKY “installed” his son as future PM while he was the PM. Tun on the other hand did not allow Mukhriz to hold any political position even at branch level when he(Tun) was the PM.

                  In this aspect, LKY is more “successful” than Tun.

          2. Re. Singapore’s military outnumbers us in reserve and active personnel. Their army, navy, and air force outmatches us in technology and training.

            In term of defensive wrt to the size of their country itself, they are already at stake if ever they even think about offensive strike. Plus have your learned and read about the Vietnamese War experience;

            Re. Every Singaporean male has some military experience, while many Malaysians still think we can shoot rifles with one hand like in Hollywood movies.

            You think so? Let me repost this:

            You think the Malaysian Troops do not have an equal fighting chance?

            Who do you think was behind the Black Hawk Down Operation aka Battle of Mogadishu in 1993?

            You think majority of Muslim Males and Women in this Country despite having no military background are not yearning to die as martyrs in the name of Jihad? But Can you say the same about the Chinese and Indians?

            Re. But who do you think they will choose to support in an extremely unlikely event of racial religious lunatics such as Husin Rahman going crazy and attacking Singapore?

            And you think all the ISLAMIST FUNDAMENTALIST around the world will just stand still and do nothing? THINK AGAIN.

            Re. Sorry boy, but I do not do ice or ecstasy.

            What makes you think that Husin Rahman took KETUM then,
            ? When you yourself are deluded with your comment wrt to his comment first.

            Re. You should look at the drug menace of heroin, amphetamine, and syabu that is afflicting the Malay youth in great numbers.

            Why do you think that MCA launched that campaign in PUB, Discotheques and Koraoke Bars last time? To save the Malays?

            Think again. These are social, party and recreational drugs which is more apparent among the Chinese Youth and Professionals.

            1. “In term of defensive wrt to the size of their country itself, they are already at stake if ever they even think about offensive strike. Plus have your learned and read about the Vietnamese War experience;”

              We are talking about Hussin Rahman’s crazy idea of invading Singapore. Most likely, it will be beaten back and we will be facing Singaporean troops rolling over us on the way to Kuala Lumpur, considering their military advantage. Tables turned.

              “And you think all the ISLAMIST FUNDAMENTALIST around the world will just stand still and do nothing? THINK AGAIN.”

              These fellows? [YouTube]

              By the way, Bashar Al-Assad is winning. The fundamentalists in Syria are now fighting between themselves over petty issues. Perhaps they disagree about the minimum beard length.

              Do you think the United States, China, Japan, Australia, and the world community will sit still and allow a vital shipping route to fall into the hands of genocidal religious lunatics? Or a strategic ally which they have poured billions of dollars of investment into? Think again.

              “You think the Malaysian Troops do not have an equal fighting chance?
              Who do you think was behind the Black Hawk Down Operation aka Battle of Mogadishu in 1993?
              You think majority of Muslim Males and Women in this Country despite having no military background are not yearning to die as martyrs in the name of Jihad? But Can you say the same about the Chinese and Indians?”

              If we are going against Singapore and her allies in an attempt to conquer that island, then no, we do not stand a chance. Certainly not with a squadron of American B-52 bombers raining death on us, among others.

              All this talk of jihad, yet the rebels in Syria are being beaten back.

              1. Have you forgotten about people like Dr Azahari, Nordin Mat Top (though dead) and others out there the likes of him, and few others now in Guatanamono Bay?

                Do you think with the current scenario such possibility is not brewing?

                Re. All this talk of jihad, yet the rebels in Syria are being beaten back

                Let’s just say, when push come shove, it is not the Muslim and Malays that are going to be the collateral damage here. Let the Indonesian Chinese experience will be a lesson for you to remember.

                For all that we know, all of you will pack your begs and fled the minute it happens. JANGAN CAKAP KOSONG SAJA LA….

                1. “Have you forgotten about people like Dr Azahari, Nordin Mat Top (though dead) and others out there the likes of him, and few others now in Guatanamono Bay?”

                  Yes. Their actions actually killed more Muslims than ‘infidels’. The irony of it. In the end they were slain by anti-terror forces.

                  “Let’s just say, when push come shove, it is not the Muslim and Malays that are going to be the collateral damage here.”

                  You are very naive. If Singapore is attacked by genocidal lunatics, there will be a lot of collateral damage on the attacking force. They and their allies will hold no punches if they are faced with the threat of annihilation by a horde of fanatics.

                  You will find that fighting a mechanised force of combined arms and their allies is very different from picking on unarmed civilians.

                  1. Re. Yes. Their actions actually killed more Muslims than ‘infidels’. The irony of it. In the end they were slain by anti-terror forces.

                    That’s beside the point. The crux of the matter is that they are there for the GOOD, the BAD and The UGLY of they are. They will die in the name of Jihad.

                    Re. You are very naive. If Singapore is attacked by genocidal lunatics, there will be a lot of collateral damage on the attacking force. They and their allies will hold no punches if they are faced with the threat of annihilation by a horde of fanatics.

                    First thing first, the collateral damage that I was talking about is you and the Chinese community here in Malaysia. Haven’t you noticed that all through your comment you have been defending Singapore instead of Malaysia. You are the “MUSUH DALAM SELIMUT”

                    You are even more naive, even without that they have been trying to meddle with this country’s peace and stability, through Bersih, Black 505 and what not. That is what they have been doing through Arab Springs. If any, Singapore is just an excuse for them to interfere further. Look I can comment more details about it, but it will be tantamount to provocation of national stability. As I said, Singapore being the size as it is now, is only courting trouble even if they attempt to go into offensive with Malaysia.

                    1. “They will die in the name of Jihad.”

                      More target practice for the anti-terror forces.

                      “First thing first, the collateral damage that I was talking about is you and the Chinese community here in Malaysia.”

                      And what makes you think you will not become collateral damage when you attack Singapore with intention to wipe it out?

                      “Haven’t you noticed that all through your comment you have been defending Singapore instead of Malaysia. You are the “MUSUH DALAM SELIMUT””

                      Did you notice you have actually been defending Husin Rahman’s statement of going on a rampage to kill fellow citizens IN Malaysia (including Malay Muslims), before of course, changing course to attack Singapore.

                      You support a civil war in Malaysia. Now who is the “musuh dalam selimut”?

                      “You are even more naive, even without that they have been trying to meddle with this country’s peace and stability, through Bersih, Black 505 and what not. That is what they have been doing through Arab Springs”

                      Then, do not give them an excuse to do so with your support of some fat lunatic who fantasises about a genocide.

                    2. Re. And what makes you think you will not become collateral damage when you attack Singapore with intention to wipe it out?

                      For I will die fighting and not standing still. That’s the different.

                      Re. Did you notice you have actually been defending Husin Rahman’s statement of going on a rampage to kill fellow citizens IN Malaysia (including Malay Muslims), before of course, changing course to attack Singapore.

                      Haven’t you heard band of brothers? Why is that concerned you again. We are just the Hollywood Pegang Senapang troop what.

                      Re. You support a civil war in Malaysia. Now who is the “musuh dalam selimut”?

                      Why is that worrying you? Please reread all you comments prior to this. We are the MUSUH YANG NYATA if push comes to shove.

                      Re. Then, do not give them an excuse to do so with your support of some fat lunatic who fantasises about a genocide.

                      ROTFL. YOU ARE SUCH A SNAKE. Who do you think that have been playing with the racial issue with the help of Democratic Endowment Fund through Ambiga, Tian Chua and the likes.

                      Please reread my comment about Bersih, Black 505 and what not and Arab Springs.

                    3. “For I will die fighting and not standing still. That’s the different.”

                      Even more target practice for the anti-terror forces.

                      “We are just the Hollywood Pegang Senapang troop what.”

                      That is right. Just target practice for counter-terrorist forces. Say hello to Nordin Mat Top in hell when you get there.

                    4. Re. More target practice for the anti-terror forces

                      To you we are the terrorist and to us, you and the like of you are our “MUSUH DALAM SELIMUT”. Haven’t you learned the Chinese Indonesia experience, until today nobody has come forward to their defense.

                      Do you think the whole world care about the Chinese? Even the Singaporean are not happy the Malaysian Chinese PR there.

                      Re. That is right. Just target practice for counter-terrorist forces.

                      Then why worry? Husin Rahman’s POV is just verbal assault and you in return and have gone to the extend of defending Singapore over and over again. When push come to shove, who do you think that we will go after first?

                      Again, haven’t you learned the Chinese Indonesia experience, until today nobody has come forward to your defense.

                      Re. Say hello to Nordin Mat Top in hell when you get there.

                      ROTFL, same goes to you, before the help come you would probably say hello to CHIN PENG in hell first, before us.

                    5. “Husin Rahman’s POV is just verbal assault and you in return and have gone to the extend of defending Singapore over and over again.”

                      I merely pointed out that his idea of genocide and invading another nation is obviously nonsense. Yet, you want to defend him.

                      “When push come to shove, who do you think that we will go after first?”

                      Considering how few people you can get for your rallies in comparison with the other protests, you will most likely be going for the first ship to Sumatra.

                      If you think you can easily exterminate 75 percent of the population (Indians, Chinese, East Malaysians, and the other half of Malays that are not with Husin Rahman’s plans), that must be some strong ketum that you are taking.

                      Have a nice day and stay off the leaves, ok?

                    6. Re. I merely pointed out that his idea of genocide and invading another nation is obviously nonsense. Yet, you want to defend him.

                      So does he, but your POV is totally bias towards Singapore. So what’s the problem when I decide to defend him?

                      Re. Considering how few people you can get for your rallies in comparison with the other protests, you will most likely be going for the first ship to Sumatra.

                      By who? The Chinese? ROTFL. THINK AGAIN. Read the ground verbal temperature of the Malays currently.

                      Re. If you think you can easily exterminate 75 percent of the population (Indians, Chinese, East Malaysians, and the other half of Malays that are not with Husin Rahman’s plans), that must be some strong ketum that you are taking.

                      What makes you think he wants to exterminate Indians, East Malaysians, and the other half of Malays that are not with Husin Rahman’s plans? Why again and again you speaks on behalf of other races to save your Chinese Butt, if push comes shove. We never have problems issue with the Indian and the Serawakian and Sabahan natives (note: emphasis on native).

                      For the record the Indonesian only went after the Chinese and the Bruneian put a stop right after Merdeka on the Chinese, which I believe after having seen the experience from Malaysia.

                      Re. Have a nice day and stay off the leaves, ok?

                      Of course I am having a great weekend now, but I don’t think you do, as you busy defending the honor and glory of your KIBLAT i.e. Singapore.

      2. Singaporean troops have never been in a real battle with real bullets/bombs/drones. Their involvement in UN peace keeping have been exclusively to send their Red-Cross team to the safest place in the warring zones, the hospitals.

        I seriously doubt that their troops will ever dare to set foot on Tanah Melayu. You are grossly mistaken for thinking highly of Singaporean troops which only “excel” in simulated combats.

        1. They have been sent to Israel to train with the Zionist against the Palestinians. It is one of their routine joint training, apart from with the US and Taiwan.

          But Malaysia has a longtime experiences fighting the Communist in the jungle plus the on going routine fighting the pirates along the Straits of Melaka and other coasts.

        2. “Singaporean troops have never been in a real battle with real bullets/bombs/drones.”

          Neither have we. The Lahad Datu battle was against an inferior equipped force of pirates and thugs. We had numerical superiority, logistics, communications, armoured fighting vehicles, air and naval support.

          1. AC-DC,

            Both counties have military strenghs and weaknesses . So arguing which army is stronger, better, more advanced will drag us into arguments for 300 years.

            1. The reality is we are more likely to have an armed conflict with Indonesia than Singapore.

              It has happened before.

              1. AC-DC,

                The reality is that “who’s who” in Singapore and Malaysia will not wage war against each other as it is very costly and very destructive.

                And there is a better way. Just as DAP is so “favourable’ by “many in Singapore”, rooms for democracy as practised in Ma;laysia begin to “penetrate” Singapore.

                What you fail to understand is that just as you dream of changing government in Malaysia( UMNO is so bad to you), people in Singapore too begin to dream of life after PAP..

          2. Re. Neither have we.

            1. Fighting Commie in the Jungle since Merdeka until late 1980’s;
            2. Battle of Mogadishu @ Black Hawk Dawn
            3. Fighting Pirate in the Straits of Melaka up to the Coast Eden

            What do they have as in the real life training?

            1. 1. Fighting Commie in the Jungle since Merdeka until late 1980′s;

              We have technological and logistical superiority, and the support of Britain, Australia, New Zealand, and the United States. The Communist had to resort to raiding food from settlements near the jungle.

              2. Battle of Mogadishu @ Black Hawk Dawn

              There is a difference between Farah Aideed’s thugs and a modern mechanised military force.

              3. Fighting Pirate in the Straits of Melaka up to the Coast Eden

              http://combinedmaritimeforces.com/2013/03/07/republic-of-singapore-navy-takes-command-of-combined-task-force-151/

              1. Still experiences are experiences. Every war are different from one to another. The point is, we have that experiences.

                We are not talking about technology here. Why compared Malaysia with the UK and The US. Please focus on issue discussed and divert the discussion.

                Wrt, to fighting pirates we have more experiences, please recall the cases in the coast of Eden not long ago. It is not a joint venture with Singapore, it is solely Malaysia own effort.

                My question to you is, where will you be if the first bomb drop on this land?

                1. “Why compared Malaysia with the UK and The US. Please focus on issue discussed and divert the discussion.”

                  Any planned invasion of Singapore by religious or racial lunatics from Malaysia will certainly bring in the United Kingdom and the Americans, and the international community. If you think this will be a one country versus one country war, you are mistaken…

                  “Wrt, to fighting pirates we have more experiences, please recall the cases in the coast of Eden not long ago. It is not a joint venture with Singapore, it is solely Malaysia own effort.”

                  The operations in the Gulf of Aden is a multinational force, including the Americans, British, Malaysians and Singaporeans.

                  “My question to you is, where will you be if the first bomb drop on this land?”

                  Ready to fight.

                  Provided it is not a crazy idiot in power with plans to destroy all minorities.

                  1. Re. Any planned invasion of Singapore by religious or racial lunatics from Malaysia will certainly bring in the United Kingdom and the Americans, and the international community. If you think this will be a one country versus one country war, you are mistaken

                    This concern you because?

                    As far I am concern they have been provoking Malaysia with various cases not only through media, but also through unauthorized used of air space. Husin Rahman is right by airing his nationalistic and patriotic POV, but you on contrary went into Singapore defence right away.

                    Re. The operations in the Gulf of Aden is a multinational force, including the Americans, British, Malaysians and Singaporeans.

                    Jangan asyik nak menipu dan membelit.

                    “Operasi Fajar 9: Teluk Aden[1][2] merupakan operasi ketenteraan oleh Tentera Laut Diraja Malaysia (TLDM) terhadap lanun Somalia di Laut Arab pada 20 Januari 2011, sehari sebelum dan dua hari operasi yang sama oleh Tentera Laut Republik Korea (18 Januari – 21 Januari). Dalam kejadian rampasan kapal dagang yang berlaku kira-kira 300 batu nautika timur negara Oman pada pukul 11.40 malam, Pasukan Perlindungan Kapal Malaysia telah menghantar sebuah helikopter penyerang dan 14 anggota komando TLDM dengan menggunakan dua buah bot tempur untuk menawan semula kapal dan menyelamatkan krew kapal. Selepas dua jam menghampiri kapal dagang tersebut, pihak TLDM berjaya menawan kembali kapal tersebut pada 20 Januari 2011 yang mengakibatkan tiga lanun cedera dalam pertempuran manakala empat lagi berjaya ditahan.”

                    Read more here.

                    http://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operasi_Fajar_9:_Teluk_Aden

                    Re: Provided it is not a crazy idiot in power with plans to destroy all minorities.

                    Why should you be concerned, we are only Hollywood Style Pegang Senapang people what?

                    In defending of one nation there is no but. PERIOD.

                    1. re: “Husin Rahman is right by airing his nationalistic and patriotic POV, but you on contrary went into Singapore defence right away.”

                      Ha ha ha. Kantoiii si Acik Ducik.

                    2. “Husin Rahman is right by airing his nationalistic and patriotic POV, but you on contrary went into Singapore defence right away.”

                      Lets see Husin Rahman’s “patriotic” point of view:

                      “Or does ST want half of the Malay population in the Semenanjung to run amok, killing everyone on their path, until they cannot find anymore people to kill in Malaysia, prompting them to proceed into the heart of Singapore to…”

                      There is nothing patriotic about killing your own countryman, including the other half of the Malay population. Nothing patriotic about embarking on foolish adventures that only result in defeat and destruction of our nation.

                      You should also read up on Combined Task Force 151.

                      “In defending of one nation there is no but. PERIOD.”

                      I will fight for my country and countrymen, but not for a lunatic such as Husin Rahman who is intent on attacking everyone else. Understand?

                      As for Helen Ang, it appears she has “kantoi”-ed herself as a person intent on causing racial-religious strife in Malaysia with her comment. No surprise, she expressed disappointment when the planned protest in front of the church in Klang was cancelled.

                    3. AD-DC is soooo typical Dapster (sorry, Dapster is more appropriate than evangelista for this one) in his Singapore kiblat.

                      Yeah Acik-Ducik is most patriotic, justt like the Dapsters below.

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                    4. Helen [deleted] caught in the mousetrap pertaining to Husin Rahman’s insane comments. She is now trying to wiggle free, using screencaps.

                    5. Re. Lets see Husin Rahman’s “patriotic” point of view:

                      Still it is his POV but the fact is you went straight into defending Singapore. That in itself, show where your loyalty is.

                      Re. I will fight for my country and countrymen, but not for a lunatic such as Husin Rahman who is intent on attacking everyone else. Understand?

                      I don’t think you will even fight for this country at any event or cause, to start with you don’t even defend this country with ST’s media onslaught.

                      Re. As for Helen Ang, it appears she has “kantoi”-ed herself as a person intent on causing racial-religious strife in Malaysia with her comment.

                      Don’t speak for us the Majority Malays. For us, Helen sees what we want and aim for, unlike you. For the record almost every Malays followers in support her. SO DEAL WITH IT.

                    6. Re. Helen [deleted] caught in the mousetrap pertaining to Husin Rahman’s insane comments. She is now trying to wiggle free, using screencaps.

                      She did it with fact not with CAKAP KOSONG DAN MENIPU, unlike you.

                    7. [This comment does not pass moderation]

                      AC-DC,

                      There is a line that I draw in terms of your personal BIADAPNESS to me in my own blog. It’s the same behaviour that YOUR KIND is demonstrating all over Malaysian cyberspace and in posturing, e.g. Shaun Tan putting his shoe heel on Najib’s head.

                      A line I have enforced even for Hannah Yeoh in this blog when the personal criticisms of her by readers cross the line, so don’t push it here anymore.

                      I’ve tolerated you here thus far because I’m democratic and I allow contrary opinions but you do not have an automatic right comment without any civility. Not only are you uncivil, you are biaDAP and kurang ajar — which I refuse to tolerate any further.

                      YOUR KIND do not seem to possess any modicum of realization of just how BIADAP and KURANG AJAR you people really are.

                      Helen

                    8. Helen,

                      Why worry let it passes, just like what you did for those who degrade and insult you. It is about time we see the true color of this HYPOCRITE EVANGELISTA BINTANG TIGA @ CUCU CICIT KOMUNIS.

                    9. What hypocrisy.

                      You accuse me of things which you yourself, and your readers, are doing in magnitudes far worse. Snide comments about political opponents (‘Hannah Banana’, ‘Veginatable’, ‘biawak’, for instance) and articles or comments trying to incite Muslim-Christian clashes. You blatantly accused the opposition of launching DDoS attacks on your blog without proof, until I pointed out that other pro-Umno blogs aligned with the anti-Najib faction had also been targeted. Husin Rahman’s comments of killing half the Malay population, ethnic minorities, and proceeding to attack Singapore gets no censure from you. It is no surprise he was your ex colleague, apparently.

                      When the stones you toss hit your glass house, you start crying foul.

                      Now stop whinging and fix the broken panes.

                      It is up to you if you want to publish this comment or otherwise…

                    10. Re. You accuse me of things which you yourself, and your readers, are doing in magnitudes far worse. Snide comments about political opponents (‘Hannah Banana’, ‘Veginatable’, ‘biawak’, for instance) and articles or comments trying to incite Muslim-Christian clashes.

                      Can’t bear the heat from Helen huh! These are just verbal assaults, so what’s a FRET?

                      Re. Husin Rahman’s comments of killing half the Malay population, ethnic minorities, and proceeding to attack Singapore gets no censure from you. It is no surprise he was your ex colleague, apparently.

                      And you gladly went straight to defend Singapore with your “MARCHING TO DATARAN MERDEKA” by the Singaporean Troops. All along the rally never once you show allegiance to this country, but only to belittle her time and again. As I said it is Husin Rahman’s patriotic POV, so deal with it.

                    11. Killing 75 percent of Malaysians and starting an international incident which will only result in our country defeated. Patriotic your head.

                    12. Re. Killing 75 percent of Malaysians and starting an international incident which will only result in our country defeated. Patriotic your head.

                      What makes you think he wants to exterminate Indians, East Malaysians, and the other half of Malays? Why again and again you speaks on behalf of other races to save your Chinese Butt, in the likely event if push comes shove.

                      We never have problems or issue with the Indian and the Serawakian and Sabahan natives (note: emphasis on native).

                      For the record the Indonesian only went after the Chinese and the Bruneian put a stop right after Merdeka on the Chinese, which I believe after having seen the experience from Malaysia.

                      What’s your logic? At least I have put my case forward, while you in return keep going back to your Singapore defense. May be it is true and it is not that the country will be defeated, but first thing first guess who are the MUSUH DALAM SELIMUT that we are going after first?

                      Again haven’t you learned a lesson or two from the Indonesian Chinese experience? Until today no country in the whole wide world has come forward to defend and seek justice for them.

                      Why do you think Helen is taking all this trouble alerting the 5% of less Chinese about the danger of DAP and Evangelista?

                      DO YOU THINK HELEN DOES THIS FOR FUN?

                      You may not recall this, but right after PRU13, Helen and many other followers have talked about the Chinese and Cina DAP have started to keep pushing the enveloped. Starting with the guy who insulted the Duli Yang Maha Mulia Raja Permaisuri Agong in Penang, followed by Melindai Gooi who insulted Duli Yang Maha Mulia Yang Dipertuan Agong, followed by Alvivi, followed by the feeding kangkung frenzy by the PKR Chinese Adun, and now this with Theresa KOk’s latest CNY youtube video.

                      And what about the insults that you guys threw at Datin Sri Rosmah Mansor? By calling her Big Momma and the parody etc. Not to forget the insults on PDRM and ATM.

                      WHERE WERE YOU THROUGH ALL THAT?

                      When the table turn you can’t accept the salvo. Where “GOT ROAD” and that is HYPOCRITE TO THE HIGHEST ORDER which is THE MOST APPARENT TRAIT OF DAP EVANGELISTA.

                      Do you think that the Malays just suddenly woke up one morning and decides to hate the Chinese?

                      Time and again, I have commenting on this blog and others that prior to PRU13, we, the Malay, are known as “BANGSA TIDAK APA”, but anymore, if any the current heat on the ground is the sign that we are changing and becoming more aggressive. JANGAN DIJOLOK SARANG TEBUAN.

                      Don’t try to come here and peddle your BULLOCK as a peace bearer, when you yourself have done nothing to help ease the insulted thrown at the Malay and Islam.

                    13. Helen,

                      Kalau tak buat salah apa nak takut betul tak? and you are right from the beginning over your concern of being the collateral damage at the end.

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