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[ Hindraf ] Deputy minister resigns / Pakatan full of hate and spite

Hindraf’s P. Waytha Moorthy will resign as Deputy Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department (JPM) as well as from his senator post on Monday (10 Feb 2014) — see FMT report.

Waytha had earlier announced his resolve to leave the JPM should he not be able to deliver on the MoU blueprint signed between the BN and Hindraf. He said this months ago on 1 Aug 2013 — see Malaysiakini report (screenshot below).

The Dapster horde has always been attacking Hindraf from the get go. See their reader comments on the Malaysiakini article referred. Now that Waytha’s resignation has come to pass, allow me to rebut the detractors, i.e. tell you what kind of people they are.

In retrospect: Waytha’s offer last August to resign

Let’s start with known Hindraf-hater ‘onyourtoes‘. The comment by Cinapek ‘onyourtoes’ is most predictable:

“You have no power. You have nothing; you were completely neutralised. You are spoiled goods. Yes, you will resign after you have collected enough, if not dropped like a leper earlier.”

Malaysiakini onyourtoes

My response: The comment by ‘onyourtoes’ above is reflective of the typical Dapster malice. He alleges that Waytha joined the PM’s office “to collect”. This line of thinking by ‘onyourtoes’ characterizes what kind of person the Gold-worshipping Chinese evangelista is himself really like. It does not characterize Hindraf people who are genuine activists.

Like Zaid Ibrahim who quit the Dollah Badawi cabinet on a matter of principle, so has Waytha now resigned from the Najib administration after being in government less than ¾ of a year.

The smear by people the ilk of ‘onyourtoes’ is now proven to be a lie because this deputy minister from Hindraf is clearly walking out when all this while the Dapsters have been lying that Waytha is power/glory-crazy like their own DAP 3.0 idols with feet of clay.

Money-minded Dapsters believe that everyone else must think just like them – very basely – and behave just like them — very vilely.

No, people don’t.

Other folks whom you (Dapster-evangelistas) like to call “low class” are in truth way, way above you all in integrity even though your Papa Dapster would label people on the opposite side of the political fence as having “no integrity“.

Malaysiakini Waytha quit

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Another commenter ‘Barnie Flintstone (see screenshot above) wrote “this is what you get when you give evil … No way, man the Malay does not help the Indian, that’s what it is”.

My response: It is spiteful of ‘Barnie Flintstone’ to impute “evil” when Hindraf was trying to do good, i.e. help the Indian poor. As for Barnie’s view that “No way, man the Malay does not help the Indian” … well, Najib appears to have broken the “nambikei”.

Nonetheless, 1Najib should not be taken as representative of the Malay race, I hope. He can, however, personify Cluelessness.

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Senator Waytha taking his oath of office
Waytha taking his Senator’s oath in June 2013

Dr. Jacob George brought up a rumour that someone else purportedly from Hindraf “is already preparing for entry?” and asking “True/False or Malicious gossip?”

My response: With the benefit of hindsight, we can see that Dr Jacob was spreading a piece of false gossip and malicious rumour. Dapsters tend to do this — tabur fitnah merata-rata.

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cascara‘ commented: “You [Waytha] and Ganesan were so sure that Pakatan was untrustworthy.”

My response: Of course Pakatan is most untrustworthy. Look at their Kajang putar-belit, latest.

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Comment by 大马太累了—  “its all about TIPU…”

My response: Hindraf entered the agreement in good faith. Najib broke faith.

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‘survivor’ commented: “Wathamoorty, your brother Uthaya is suffering in jail, period. Isn’t it blood thicker than water?”

My response: Yes it is. Uthaya gave Waytha a hug at their mother’s funeral recently. I asked Uthaya about this in my last visit to Kajang jail. “We come from the same womb”, he replied.

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akuna matata‘ commented: “Can’t even help own bloody but dare to promise to help others!!!”

My response: At least Hindraf tried their best to help poor Indians by drawing up a blueprint of affirmative action programmes. What has DAP done for poor Indians or poor anybody?

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Senior‘ commented: “…if not you are like Paul only a window dressing for Najib”

My response: See my posting yesterday about Minister Paul Low’s efforts versus the Dapster potshots.

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sad‘ commented: “Well you have to prove the skeptics are WRONG. Remmember, people will be able to judge in time to come. Best Wishes.”

My response: The time has come and unfortunately the skeptics are proven correct. I’m sad too.

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Que sera sera, I tak peduli dah!‘ commented: “Shut your gulp , u good for nothing veda mutai.”

My response: Hindraf is well aware that Pakatan “tak peduli” about the plight of poor Indians. They thought BN could be a bit better. Hopes dashed.

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REAL TRUTH‘ commented: “I see that your departure will be sooner than expected”.

My response: You are prescient. Your prediction has come true.

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The most spiteful and delusional comment of them all by HANG BABEUF:

This commenter Hang Babeuf fits best our opinion survey results on how the Dapster is delusional.

I will dissect his comment. The reason you should carefully read my critique of his comment is because it illustrates how the dirty, destructive Dapsters operate.
Please cross refer with the short, 8-paragraph Malaysiakini article which I’ve copypasted in full:
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<Quote Malaysiakini>
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“Deputy Minister P Waythamoothy today said he is ‘ready’ to resign from his position if he is unable to carry out his duties as underlined in the Persatuan Hindraf Malaysia’s Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with BN.
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In a statement today, Waythamoorthy, who is also a senator, said he would not remain ‘a minute longer’ in his current position if he feels Persatuan Hindraf Malaysia is ‘unable to contribute’ to solving the problems of the Indian community in Malaysia.
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“The Prime Minister (Najib Abdul Razak) has appointed me primarily to oversee the often forgotten, longstanding, thorny issues affecting the Malaysian Indian community and to resolve them, permanently in line with his Economic Transformation Programme,” he said.
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“Similarly without fear and favour, we stepped into Putrajaya with the genuine and sincere intention to take concrete corrective action.”
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“If our attempted actions remain futile without any benefit for the community due to direct and indirect obstacles blocking our path, then I am ready to resign,” he added.
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Waythamoorthy stressed that he did not come to Putrajaya ‘for the sake of power’ and said that position ‘is not of any significance’ to him if he is unable to deliver the desired results.
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“My sole purpose and objective are to put into action the Hindraf-BN blueprint,” he said.
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The blueprint between Hindraf and BN was signed in late April, outlining four major areas that BN, led by Najib, promised to improve while working with Hindraf.”
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What kind of people are they?

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They don’t help. They only hinder.

And they hate. They’re so full of it.

If the Dapster loved his country, he would try to help make Najib’s 1Malaysia a success. But no, from the very inception of the unity programme, the Dapsters have done their darndest to tear down the 1Malaysia concept merely because the initiative is the BN’s.

Dapsters would rather have 1Malaysia fail than to see Najib succeed.

If the Dapster cared about under-privileged Indians, he would have hoped to see the Hindraf blueprint take off. But no, they’d rather see Hindraf fail in Putrajaya than to see the BN attempt at reconciliation with a marginalized group succeed.

What the Malaysiakini subscriber Hang Babeuf commented is good for us to examine so that you can see what kind of spite motivates the pro-opposition commenters.

MalaysiakiniHang Bebuf

Hang Babeuf mocks Waytha by saying “What they [people] face are not woes but problems.”

Okay, you can read the Malaysiakini article HERE yourself. Waytha said “problems” (I’ve highlighted the word in orange, also see above). It is Hang Babeuf who is going off on his own tangent.

Hang Babeuf then writes the next mocking but even more inexplicable line: “And when people speak about and call attention to those problems, these are not ‘grouses’.”

Please check carefully the Malaysiakini article. Nowhere did Waytha say the word “grouses”.

Yet here is the delusional Hang Babeuf again conjuring up his own ghost words. He rants: ” ‘Grouses’ are baseless … ungrounded, petulant, self-serving, self-regarding, maudlin protests or bids for undeserved sympathy. People have and voice ‘complaint’.”

He attributed a word “grouses” to Waytha which Waytha never said.

Then Hang Babeuf goes on to lecture on the meaning of the word “grouses” as being “baseless, ungrounded, petulant, self-serving, self-regarding, maudlin protests or bids for undeserved sympathy”.

Hang Babeuf makes as it as if it’s somehow Waytha’s fault, and imputed that Waytha said Indians have grouses.

In other words, Hang Babeuf invents “grouses” that never were there in the first place and then most amazingly he proceeds to mock Waytha as if Waytha had used the word “grouses” when in fact, Waytha never did.

This modus operandi describes exactly how the opposition operate in their dirty politics! (Like the 40,000 phantom Bangladeshi voters are created out of thin air.)

EXAMPLE below of DAP dirty propaganda

hannahyeoh Very worried BN will send phantom

And then Hang Babeuf follows up with more of his personal deranged imagination, writing “… against the failure of government to address and deal with major problems –and instead, as is so often the case here, to “shuck them off” or dismiss them as mere “woes”, about which ungrateful people merely have silly, unreasonable ‘grouses’.”

I’m truly flabbergasted.

Waytha most certainly never used the term “shuck them off” (which Hang Babeuf placed within quotation marks to give the impression as if it was Waytha who was talking about “woes” that are easily “shucked off”.

And what is Hang Babeuf’s rubbish about “ungrateful people merely have silly, unreasonable ‘grouses’?” As you can see for yourself, Waytha never even mentioned the word “grouses” at all.

I really wouldn’t have known how to explain to you the full extent of what kind of people are they. Like I said, their outrageous SOP simply leaves you gobsmacked.

However since the utter derangement of this Hang Babeuf’s comment is shown right before your eyes, I hope that you are now able to digest (see for yourself) what it is that they’re capable of doing.

Not only do they put words in other people’s mouth but they rant and rave over imaginary things that were never said. Hang Babeuf’s batty comment above provides a good example of how a Dapster pet target is demonized online.

Hindraf leaving Putrajaya indicates Najib’s failure at reconciliation. At the same time, Hindraf’s route to, and short-lived history in JPM also demonstrated how Pakatan was hell-bent on tearing down Hindraf every step of the way.

This should serve as a cautionary tale, especially for PSM.

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30 thoughts on “[ Hindraf ] Deputy minister resigns / Pakatan full of hate and spite

  1. Good commentary on the issue HA. I think BN should take heed the analysis. S for Waytha / Hindraf, we wish them the best. The effort to improve the socioeconomic livelihood of the Indians must however continue.

    His resignation will prompt pakatan and their supporters to level all sorts of accusations against BN. Waytha too will blame BN for his resignation and the plight of the Indian community.. BN best be prepared..

    1. The Indians BEFORE Samy Velu’s leadership in MIC (or JKR for that matter) were more of a low down dirty shame community. (No offence machas but that’s the fact). I really don’t understand why most ungrateful indians hate the every guts of this “Bapa Kemajuan Kaum India” of theirs.

      Coming out of the rubber tapping cocoons, their grandfathers were well known as ‘kacang putih’ sellers, or going from house to house looking to pay a penny or two for used bottles and old newspapers a.k.a “keling botoi”. At the close of each day, a daily routine visit to the govt. subsidised kedai tuak is a must for a happy hour session. They had establised themselves as the nation’s earliest Pickers to support the pioneers (chinese) of the recycling business back then (but today the Indians are the besi buruk millionaires).

      The milestone of the Indians progression in all aspects has reached its heydays & should be considered a tremendous achievement today. While the Malays are still busy in their labs researching and perfecting the formula for kopi-kopi janda (for men) and awet muda (for women) businesses, the Indians are at the edge of monopolising the countries logistics, electronic medias and telecommunications businesses. Before you know it, this same race innovated the commercial airlines services in this region turning aviation companies around through franchising and affilliates. And the list goes on…

      Now that we are all learned citizens, (NOT ONLY) the Indians should ask themselves, under whose governance of education provisions did they had managed to come this far?

      The chinese have been alarmed by the controversial statement “Apa lagi cina mau?”, now should the Indian be quoted the same? – “APA LAGI HINDU MAU?”

      Or Me? Tor For?

  2. Miss H, once again, well done. A very thorough analysis indeed. No wonder the Dap**s can’t stand you. Please keep it up.

  3. Dear Helen,

    You are one out of the very few bloggers that have a heart for the poor especially the Indians whom many view as nuisance in society. Thank you for being the voice for those who can’t fend for themselves. Though many might not appreciate it and might even ridicule you, I’m sure your effort wouldn’t go in vain.

    Lord Krishna speaks to Arjuna in Bhagavad gita, “……one who does good my friend is never lost.”

    Wishing you all the best.

  4. Malaysia kesian, There are Poor Indians, Poor Malays and Poor Chinese and yet there are Chinese Billionaires, Indians Billionaires and Malays Billionaires all successful due opportunities created by BN ruling government and wonder why there still poor Indians, Chinese and Malay in the so rich resourceful country named MALAYSIA.

    1. Helen, saya pon poor juga.. I don’t depend on anyone to make my life better. Bangun pagi solat 6am and then go to work and this and that only get to sleep at times 2am.. see even manage to send my comments to you at 1:44 am.

      Why want to blame govt or others for your misfortunes?.. peluang terbuka dimana saja asalkan ikhlas dan rajin? Malaysia is a blessed country where droves of foreign workers, legal and illegal come and go.

      Tak masuk akal le.. My Indonesian workers, jointly with their hubbies can easily earn as much as RM3K each month. Look at the Banglas.. I know of one who proudly told me that he managed to save over RM100K after being here for 5yrs.

      Why then are the Malaysian Indians poor? This question is best directed to the Indian community themselves.

    2. That’s exactly the point. UMNO have been using the divide and rule strategy. NEP is used just to defend the cronies (all races) wealth. They have no intention to improve the poor Malaysian life.

      If you question the NEP, the blind UMNO supporters will accuse you being racist and challenging the Malay right but in fact only the UMNOputra and cronies are the rich tycoons.

      This is why we must topple UMNO in whatever mean to give Malaysia a hope. UMNO is becoming more extreme by using religion and race to divide the Malaysian further.

      1. Gooseball who blames UMNO for all misdeed and misfortune included when you go berak and your flush not working also blame UMNO.

      2. ‘malaysian’, you should be aware that Pakatan is ALSO using race and religion to divide Malaysians – in fact, throwing oil onto the fire in doing so to create chaos so they can sweep in and claim to be the saviour. If you think there’s only one bad guy in this situation, you’re wrong.

        1. I agree. The PR leaders preach multi racialism and Bangsa Malaysia but at the back use race and religion to tear the country apart. If you read the Tamil papers for example, you get sick with PR leaders making all kinds of accusations using race on daily basic. Every issue is turned into a raciaal issue to attack BN.

          Yet when in ceramahs they talk about Malaysian First / Bangsa Malaysia.

  5. Helen,

    You know I have a different (and much lower) opinion on Hindraf and Waytha.

    I knew that getting Waytha into the cabinet was a lose-lose solution that would never work out.

    In fact Waytha have not anything worthwhile since being appointed as the Dep Minister and I hear that he does not get along well with his peers and others with his style and personality.

    Politically too, he doesn’t have too much influence or much sway over the Indians’ mindset.

    Personally I disagree with his style of issuing statements after statements and getting involved in demos on issues affecting Indians. I would prefer he and Hindraf get down to work by SOLVING rather than talking about issues.

    However, one thing I must admit. Waytha and Hindraf are selfless and totally committed to their cause. Unlike the PR leaders who only talk about Indian issues before the election but after the GE they go missing. For example, in the case of Indians without IDs. Surendran the bearded clown of PKR was holding demos on the issue almost daily. But after the GE, he seems to be more occupied with playing the apologist for his masters.

    1. re: “I hear that he does not get along well with his peers and others with his style and personality”

      Look at the hostility against him on this page alone and from people who have never met nor spoken with him. Obviously he started in Putrajaya on the backfoot, that much can be hazarded.

      As to his style and personality, please tell me what you think it is, then I can better discuss.

      re: “Politically too, he doesn’t have too much influence or much sway over the Indians’ mindset.”

      What makes you say this?

      re: “I would prefer he and Hindraf get down to work by SOLVING rather than talking about issues.”

      Putting aside Waytha, don’t you think that being activists – and you yourself are admitting that they are “selfless and totally committed to their cause” (which I can vouch for) – the rest of the Hindraf guys don’t want to get down to work?

      They already said in the resignation statement that they were confronted with “dead ends” and hitting their head against a brick wall.

      1. Helen,

        What I hear is 3rd hand so I can’t vouch for its accuracy. Waytha is an activist first and foremost and a very opinionated person and the leader of his group.

        However when you are in the govt, you are a team player and like it or not you need to stick with the govt policy. Being a Dep Minister curtails you of your freedom of expression and action. Waytha being someone who used to be vocal, cannot be so vocal when in the govt and that rankled his peers and others in the govt.

        I think he did not realise that being in the govt doesn’t provide him a blank cheque and complete freedom to act and do whatever he wanted, unlike in Hindraf.

        I knew this and that’s why I disagreed Waytha being taken on board as the Dep Minister.

        Secondly, MIC never liked him and the feeling is mutual. He never got along with MIC leaders and they in turn have better influence over govt due to their seniority and being a political party and elected reps.

        I guess Waytha wanted to be the top dog in the cabinet in championing the Indian issues. But though being dep Minister is a high position, but in the govt it is like being in the Formula 3 race as opposed to Ministers being in the F1 race.

        There is a cabinet commitee on Indian issue personally chaired by Najib. I guess there are other people who are much senior than him (MIC). I suspect Waytha’s frustration is that he is just one of the bricks in the wall in the committee and that MIC has much better standing and gets their way while trying to sideline him.

        While he said that they hit a brick wall and you stated that Najib’s a kura kura. I think these are somewhat true though not entirely. Recently Najib approved Rm100M for Tamil schools and there were other steps taken on the education front and IC registeration too.

        The problem with Najib is that he has lost the confidence of the party after the 13 GE. He is much more pre-occupied with party internal issues so his focus is very much inward.

        Had he received the mandate from all races, Najib would be in a stronger position to address the issues of Chinese and Indians. The problem is that he’s almost solely dependent on Malay votes and the Malay electorate is angry with the Chinese provocation – led by the Dapsters. The Malays are sick of his overtures (or begging / pleading) to the Chinese or the liberal policies.

        So if Najib is a kura kura now, then you need to blame the Chinese for it.

      2. Another point is about Hindraf’s mindshare and influence among Indians.

        I think, just like the Malays the Indians are a fractured lot too. There is this pro-establishment group and another is a rabid, anti-govt faction. In between, there are fence sitters and nuetrals. Much of the support from Hindraf today is coming from the 3rd group. However Hindraf itself is split into various factions and waytha’s hindraf is just one of the many groups.

        To understand the situation one needs to understand a bit of history. Hindraf was a creation of anti-MIC Tamil media who gave them the voice and visibility prior to 2008. However these days the newspapers either have aligned themselves back to MIC or support PR. Very little publicity is given to Hindraf.

        If you want proof, look at the result of 13 GE when Utaya contested at Kota Raja and Seri Andalas and he lost deposit! I bet the same would have happened to Waytha.

        I read the Tamil papers occasionally so I do sense that Hindraf no longer has any tractions emotionally with the Indian community. Sad but true.

        Waytha can keep the struggle but with the tamil media in the hands of PR and BN supporters, he will not get any publicity except some news here and there.

        Another thing that Waytha did which is hardly in keeping with his noble aim is the recent fight to spare the life of a convicted killer Chandran. While one can understand the opposition to death penalty, it sends a very wrong message when you make a convicted killer a hero especially when the community itself is mired in a culture of violence and crime. Fighting for students is one thing, fighting for criminals is another.

  6. re: Najib would be in a stronger position to address the issues of Chinese and Indians.

    BN got the highest Parliament majority in 2004 under Pak Lah. But issues affecting Chinese and Indians back then are still in existence now.

    re: So if Najib is a kura kura now, then you need to blame the Chinese for it.

    What is the point of having a democratic right to vote your preferred party if upon voting, you are being blamed? Might as well turn our country into North Korea. Then Najib-BN will have 99.99% support.

    1. Dear mycitizen,

      It is not the voting choice that is being questioned. It is the kurang ajar behaviour associated with the leaders and supporters of the party that has monopolized the Chinese and peninsular Christian votes.

      1. re: It is not the voting choice that is being questioned.

        Utusan screamed ‘Apalagi Cina Mau?’. I understood the word ‘Cina’ as the Chinese in general. Najib also said ‘Chinese Tsunami’. Again, the Chinese in general. Also the reaction to kangkung joke and Teresa Kok’s video, the protesters are ‘threatening’ May 13 to the Chinese community in general. Not particularly on Lee Khai Loon or Teresa Kok.

        I hope more people will be like you. Able to draw the difference between the Chinese that merely exercised their democratic rights to vote and the Chinese that displayed hostility to the Malays.

        1. re: “Utusan screamed ‘Apalagi Cina Mau?’. I understood the word ‘Cina’ as the Chinese in general. Najib also said ‘Chinese Tsunami’. Again, the Chinese in general. Also the reaction to kangkung joke and Teresa Kok’s video, the protesters are ‘threatening’ May 13 to the Chinese community in general. Not particularly on Lee Khai Loon or Teresa Kok.”

          Yes, I’m afraid that now all Chinese are seen as to be one and the same. This trend has developed perhaps over the span of the past one year. Read Sarah’s description of this pattern in her neighbourhood.

          (a) “the protesters are ‘threatening’ May 13 to the Chinese community in general. Not particularly on Lee Khai Loon”

          I’ve highlighted this very fact early on in several past postings on the kangkung demos.

          (b) “the protesters are ‘threatening’ May 13 to the Chinese community in general. Not particularly on … Teresa Kok.”

          Correct again. It’s called collective punishment. In the eyes of protestors, no Chinese are objecting or against the DAP or Teresa’s actions.

          It’s like when the jihadist suicide bombers target Americans. Those American tourists (e.g. sightseeing at the pyramids) who were unfortunate enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time got bombed not because they personally did something bad to the Muslims but only because of their American nationality.

          Here, like you say “the Chinese in general” are getting the backlash.

          (d) “Utusan screamed ‘Apalagi Cina Mau’?”

          Yes but there is a bigger issue and the backdrop of citizenship rights and responsibilities. Don’t look at it just from the Pakatan (DAP Chinese-dominated) POV. Look at the Utusan question also from the BN (Umno Malay-dominated) POV.

          (d) “Najib also said ‘Chinese Tsunami’.”

          Technically he is correct. The statistics favour him. Which is not denying that other factors location (urban-rural) or class (income, jobs) also played their part.

          To call Najib “racist” for ascribing the description ‘Chinese’ to the tsunami only entrenches the Malay belief that the Chinese baling batu sorok tangan, masih lagi mahu menegakka benang basah, and berani buat tapi tak berani tanggung.

          1. re: Yes, I’m afraid that now all Chinese are seen as to be one and the same.

            If the provocation of selected Chinese politician can be attributed to describe the entire Chinese community, the same can be used against the Malays as well. Just like Ibrahim Ali (asked for alkitab to be burned), Zul Nordin (questioned the practise of Hinduism) and the recent demo by certain NGOs, the Chinese also can bundle the entire Malay community into one category due to the actions of few people. This is made worse by the reaction (of the lack of it) of the authority, e.g. like what Zahid said in relation to the offering of reward to slap Teresa.

            re: Yes but there is a bigger issue and the backdrop of citizenship rights and responsibilities. Don’t look at it just from the Pakatan (DAP Chinese-dominated) POV. Look at the Utusan question also from the BN (Umno Malay-dominated) POV.

            So, what you mean by “backdrop of citizenship rights and responsibilities” and “BN (Umno Malay-dominated) POV”.

            1. re: “If the provocation of selected Chinese politician can be attributed to describe the entire Chinese community, the same can be used against the Malays as well. Just like Ibrahim Ali (asked for alkitab to be burned), Zul Nordin (questioned the practise of Hinduism)”

              (1) Teresa is the DAP vice chairman
              (2) The public perception is that DAP has 90 percent of the Chinese voter support
              (3) The ‘Red Bean Army’ rampaging the countryside reinforces the public image that DAP commands the loyalty of the Chinese community
              (4) While the Malays are seen to be divided (Umno vs PAS-PKR), the Chinese are seen to be united behind DAP
              (5) So Teresa’s provocation using the CNY cover is seen as Chinese

              (1) The Chinese make as if “Umnoputras” represent “bad Malays”
              (2) Zul Nordin used to be a – PKR – member of Parliament and earlier he was with PAS
              (3) The questioning a practice of Hinduism in the video happened years ago whereas Zul was only associated with Umno at the last minute on the eve of GE13
              (4) Unlike Teresa, Zul holds no post in Umno (not even a supreme council member) and thus he cannot be said to be its spokesman

              (5) You say: “the Chinese also can bundle the entire Malay community into one category due to the actions of few people”

              (6) I say: “Go ahead lor, what’s new? After all, the Chinese already bundle the actions of a few obscure Umno division leaders as representative of “bad Malays”. [PAS people will be trotted out as “good Malays” as long as DAP and PAS remain in the Pakatan pact.]

              re: “So, what you mean by ‘backdrop of citizenship rights and responsibilities” and “BN (Umno Malay-dominated) POV’.”

              Why don’t you take some effort to find out for yourself first? Your law books surely teach you.

    2. Hello Dapster, no one is blaming anyone for exercising their democratic rights. But Newton’s 3rd law says for every action there is a equal and opposite reaction. So all our actions have reactions and price to pay. So when the Chinese decided to vote en masse to PR despite repeated counsels, they have to be prepared for the consequences.

      And this is one of the consequences…wait for me.

      1. cs,

        What consequences? From what I see, the series of Barang Naik affects all Malaysians. Even the loyal BN supporters. Care to explain what consequences that the majority Chinese have suffered due to their en mass vote to PR which are not sufferred by BN voters?

        1. Well, it seems like I need to spell it out for you like some mentally retarded person, oops, sorry, you are a Dapster so it figures…my bad.

          Well, the times when Najib bent backward to accomodate the Chinese have gone. No longer he will come bearing gifts.

          The Chinese took a gamble and lost. If they want anything for the next 4 years, they can look for Tian Chua or Anwar. You can post all nasty posts in the net or get PR’s paid agents like MI and MK to write all kind of anti-BN to heart’s contend but that not gonna change a thing.

          1. cs,

            I am amused by your response. Guess you don’t understand my question. You said “Well, the times when Najib bent backward to accomodate the Chinese have gone. No longer he will come bearing gifts.” Can give some example?

            Perhaps Helen can assist?

              1. cs,

                Well. It is easy to merely type this sentence out on your keyboard:

                “Well, the times when Najib bent backward to accomodate the Chinese have gone. No longer he will come bearing gifts.”

                It will only take you few seconds. Can you show some convincing examples to support your argument?

                Why Najib didn’t make the price hike is only meant to be borne by Chinese that voted for PR. Malay BN voters are spared the hike and pay the old rate.

                Why Najib didn’t make the incoming BR1M is only meant for Malay BN voters. PR Chinese voters are not entitle to receive.

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