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Thank you all for the responses to my Waytha postings

Considering that the predominant readership in my blog is presumably pro-establishment Malay, the responses here, all in all, has been rather muted (when it could have been far more hostile).

Compared to some of the “happy to see him go” responses elsewhere in the pro-Umno websites, I take your relative silence / restraint as something positive, i.e. no news is good news, because at least there is not much venting against him.

It has been an interesting comparison to the reader responses in the pro-opposition portals where their comments lack decorum and the commenters feel free to simply say (vomit) anything without giving much thought to how their comments would be received by the tuan empunya badan.

As always, if there is anything you want to know, please feel free to ask. I’m quite willing to share what I know.

For the record, I think the PM was right to have offered the olive branch and Hindraf to accept, and vice versa. It’s a real pity things didn’t work out.

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49 thoughts on “Thank you all for the responses to my Waytha postings

  1. I think I been quite fair by saying ALL of us mudah lupa, not only the Indians.

    With the Allah issue and Taib Mahmud resigning soon, the possibilities of BN losing more sits in Sabah and Sarawak (next GE) will proof the ‘ex-chawatians or ex-loin-clothians’ pun mudah lupa!

    Or Me? Tor For?

    1. Re. the ‘ex-chawatians or ex-loin-clothians’

      Why do you have to go that far to insult them? Fyi, they are still wearing these traditional costumes for special occasion and many are not in cawat or loin-cloth to begin with.

      Serawak Traditional Costumes

      https://www.google.com/search?q=sarawak+traditional+costume&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Qqr4UsDEBsmZiQeJ8YHoDA&ved=0CCUQsAQ&biw=1025&bih=449

      Sabah Traditional Costumes

      https://www.google.com/search?q=sarawak+traditional+costume&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Qqr4UsDEBsmZiQeJ8YHoDA&ved=0CCUQsAQ&biw=1025&bih=449#q=sabah++traditional+costume&tbm=isch

      1. Ok, I’m sorry. Ex-headhunters. Meantime mark my words for GE14.

        If not constantly campaigned by Gen-X on the historical background of their achievements bla.. bla ..bla…the Gen-Y could easily be duped by Dapster evangelistas.

        The Dapters will not only be on their way to cuci kaki into 2 more BN stronghold states they would also be wiping their feet on the doormats of Putra Jaya.

        1. Can’t never disagree with you on this. There are already there is Serawak during PRKS with 12 Seats, all in Chinese majority areas, resulted in the CM of Serawak abolished the deputy minister post right after.

          Now they are instigating the Bumi Sabah and Serawak Christians with the kalimah “Allah” issue.

        2. Saya rakyat Sarawak. It’s people like u who have no respect towards us. U belittle us just becoz we’re Sarawakians. It’s people like u who underate our wisdom that makes us feel unwanted by the west Malaysians. Your arrogance is not going to give u an edge over us.

          Shame on u. Your mental set is still feudal.

    2. “…the ‘ex-chawatians or ex-loin-clothians’…”

      With such a derogatory attitude, is it any wonder the East Malaysians sometimes view Peninsular Malaysians as condescending and arrogant?

      1. When the day comes the Dapters cuci kaki into Putra Jaya, I’m sure many people will have ‘nicer names’ for them than just calling them traitors.

  2. Either Helan knew about it or she dont want to tell..i got this frm fb.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    P Waythamoorthy with PAKATAN ask 7 Parliament Seats and with BARISAN ask for MONEY…….BLUE PRINT was a EXCUSE ???

    WAYTHA Morthy THROGI….. You SIGN MOU that is as GOOD as PIECE of TOILET PAPER…

    Dear HINDRAF LISTEN LISTEN LISTEN,

    1) The MOU is ONLY if BN win 2/3 : Even Na-jib knows that BN will not win 2/3

    2) 20% on MRSM to kick off 2014 – hello MRSM already have 10% rule which Indian student make up to less then 1% now : Now we have them do 20% : Ibrahim Ali is Board members of MARA… he will stood by you doing it? Even Mahathir’s ruling in 2003 opening MRSM to Non-Malay had such a reaction and they just dont honor more then 2 percent per year. Cabinet agreed for MRSM like school for Tamil School Students majority since 2012 not implemented. Come one dont kid yourself. Your own mom will not believe you.

    2) TAMIlL School fully aided is been asked since 1974 and many more. PM agreed and DSAI al agreed. So stop your fiasco and Clement of victory

    3) 500 Mil fund to push the equity? 3%…. Well, Wathamorthy can you please do your math…. refer to NIAT Report.

    4) Stateless issue : Pakatan promise will do away with it in 100 days of Power…. BN had almost 50 years.. even in Mic 1974 report the issue was raised…

    5) Special UNIT under JPM? SEED & SITF is what?

    6) MyDaftar is Failure you Said… tell to your new friend in MIC?

    With PAKATAN Watha ask for seat 7 Parliament and 12 Dun… with BARISAN he ask $$$$ and some LAME MOU knowing that 2/3 will not happen for BN. Every poll including POLIS Poll reflect that.

    NIAT challenge Waythamorthy to debate with Dato Thasleem and I.. any time any place….

    KAMAL HUSSEIN…? Who why? How Much? London

    Waythamorthy is the BIGGEST CATCH of this ELECTION :
    Arun Dorasamy
    NIAT—with Ronnie Liu Tian Khiew and 49 others.

    1. Dear Xynal,

      re: “You SIGN MOU that is as GOOD as PIECE of TOILET PAPER…”

      Two parties put their signatures to the MoU. “Toilet paper” reflects even more badly on Najib Razak.

      re: “The MOU is ONLY if BN win 2/3 : Even Na-jib knows that BN will not win 2/3”

      “As far as Hindraf is concerned, the MoU is this document, see scan — http://www.hindraf.co/index.php/news-statements/1168-mou-hindraf-bn

      It’s got Tengku Adnan Mansor’s signature. There are photos of him (BN sec-gen) signing this document. And nowhere in this document does it mention that the terms will be enforced only on condition that BN wins two-thirds.

      re: “20% on MRSM to kick off 2014 – hello MRSM already have 10% rule which Indian student make up to less then 1% now”

      Again this is a distortion. The MoU asks for nine NEW residential schools with the 20 percent Indian enrolment, NOT “20% on MRSM”. Please read the MoU yourself, okay.

      re: “TAMIL School fully aided”

      This is requested but the Blueprint also stipulates that requests should come from the schools concerned.

      re: “500 Mil fund to push the equity?”

      Read the MoU lah friend (the link is provided, again http://www.scribd.com/doc/167628774/Memorandum-Of-Understanding-between-HINDRAF-and-Barisan-Nasional-BN

      It says: “Allocate RM500 million towards achieving a Malaysian Indian equity ownership target of 3% AS PROMISED IN THE BN MANIFESTO 2013“.

      This RM500m is the clouds and the mountains P-R-O-M-I-S-E-D by the BN okay, and independent of Hindraf.

      re: “Stateless issue : Pakatan promise will do away with it in 100 days of Power…. BN had almost 50 years.. even in Mic 1974 report the issue was raised”

      So back then Pakatan acknowledged that the problem of statelessness is real. But after May 5th, 2013 election day and campaigning period over, the Pakatan reps don’t raise a single squeak about it anymore.

      re: “Special UNIT under JPM?”

      Which Najib did not deliver.

      re: “With PAKATAN Watha ask for seat 7 Parliament and 12 Dun… with BARISAN he ask $$$$ and some LAME MOU knowing that 2/3 will not happen for BN. Every poll including POLIS Poll reflect that.”

      After all the lies and distortions which I’ve rebutted point by point, do you still believe the gibberish that is being spread around Facebook? This is why the Pakatan politics is in the pits.

      re: “NIAT challenge Waythamorthy to debate with Dato Thasleem and I.. any time any place”

      The statement you copypasted from Facebook is signed by Dato Thasleem. He is the man circled in red in the photo below. The pix is taken at the launch of the Pakatan cloned version called “Indraf”.

      Quite obviously the counterfeit product died a natural death ‘cos Indraf has not been heard of since GE13, right?

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      1. re: Allocate RM500 million towards achieving a Malaysian Indian equity ownership target of 3%

        Achieving 3% is one thing. Distribution of the wealth is another. What is the point if the 3% is owned by few elite individuals like Tony, Ananda, Gnanalingam etc?

        1. Same situation for the Malays and Chinese as well. All communities have rich and poor people. 80/20 rule is common. 20% elites owned 80% of the wealth.

  3. I don’t think Hindraf should give up on the gomen. I think Waytha was just not the right choice as the voice for Hindraf. Since he’s stepping down, Hindraf should suggest to PM another name, someone less controversial, with less baggage for the gomen to work with. If they pull back totally then yes, semestinya akan mudah dilupakan.

  4. Too many indian political parties and ngos claiming to represent indian interests.

    Neither mic/ipf/ppp nor hindraf represent all indians.

    Time to be realistic. Budget for indians should be done bygovt department and agencies.

    Not ngo or political party

    1. Re. Not ngo or political party

      Totally agreed. The GOMEN must address this ASAP. If they can pay to the CON-sultant RM7 Billion. They should be able to allocate a least RM500 million immediately.

    2. Excerpt from Rockybru

      The real reason Waytha’s resigning

      Someone said Waytha would have to resign because he hasn’t been performing at all. “The bugger’s report card is all red.” But I’ve checked with Pemandu and they said they don’t monitor the peformance of Deputy Ministers. “(We) only have KPI for Ministers with portfolio.” That doesn’t mean he’s been performing, though.

      Yesterday someone close to the powers-that-be told me money is the real reason why Waythamoorthy is threatening to quit. “He wanted a Budget, an allocation. The MoF, for example, gets a budget to implement programs and events, money they can dish out, so Waytha thinks he should have his own purse, too, y’know. But Najib says no.”

      http://www.rockybru.com.my/2014/02/the-real-reason-waythas-resigning.html

        1. Read properly:

          “But I’ve checked with Pemandu and they said they don’t monitor the peformance of Deputy Ministers. “(We) only have KPI for Ministers with portfolio.” That doesn’t mean he’s been performing, though.”

      1. I read that blog by Rockybru too.

        Actually I gave Waytha 6 months to stay in the government. He exceeded my expectation by 2 months.

        Hindraf still do not understand that they should not hold the government at ransom for every demand they want government to fulfill. The BN government is right to turn up its nose on Waytha’s DEMAND because when will all the demands end?

        Just look at the behaviour of the belligerent anti-govt protesters in Thailand. Thaksin’s already conceded to their demand to hold a fresh general election, but after she dissolved the parliament the protesters came up with a new demand that she quit the government altogether. When will the demand from these protesters end? This is the classic case aptly described by the Malay proverb, ‘Bagi betis nak peha.”.

        I always feel that the ‘under trodden’ Indians in Malaysia won’t have their lives changed for the better until they decide to change their attitude first.

        1. The Yellow Shirts in Thailand are more like Bersih and Pakatan lah. They want to take over Bangkok/Putrajaya.

          Hindraf where got the ambition to take over the federal gomen?

          Najib failed to provide for the details which you can read about in the blueprint.

          Look, if Hindraf asks for more government aid to be given Tamil schools or for places to be opened up in technical and vocational training institutes, these are not things that will personally benefit Waytha or Ganesan or Ramesh. It’s for those in the Indian community who require these programmes to get a leg up in life.

          1. It’s the ATTITUDE laaaa!

            I pointed out that it was the Indian attitude that need to be changed; they want something from the government, WAIT for your blardy turn. The attitude of issuing threats if demands not met is synonymous with Hindraf. If the government concedes to every single demand by HIndraf, it opens the floodgates of demands from other groups. When will this demand-gate will cease from Hindraf?

            I suggest the government shows its bontot to the next Hindraf guy who issues threats and unrealistic demands and timetable.

            Mahu mogok lapar, go ahead. Mahu baring atas Chow Kit road, by all means, do it!

            1. Re. I pointed out that it was the Indian attitude that need to be changed

              CORRECT. I have said the same before and not sure whether Helen remembers she also agreed with me.

              1. I remember I agreed with you that the Indians should be less confrontational and antagonistic in their approach to the government.

  5. Waytha knows he has horribly lost the gamble and is repositioning himself as a last gambit. In all likelihood Uthaya will be released next Monday, hence the urgency.

    I think it is best both of them exit the stage as both have failed the community miserably. We gave them their chance to lead. They failed. TODAY these names are faint history in the Indian community. Nobody cares if he resigned or not, or if the other is released or not.

    The Indians will abide and seek new leaders.

    1. Anyone in your mind? Let’s discuss what the poor community actually look for. I know a list of issues that need to be addressed immediately and have been talking about this for a quite sometimes.

      Let’s hear from you.

      1. No one in mind. Indians do not need a charismatic leader, just a reversal of the marginalisation policies in place. One is the underfunding of schools and grossly insufficient places for matriculation. Another is the denial of choice courses in universities. Another is the denial of govt contracts and permits to Indian businesses and lack of bank loans. No franchises for petrol stations, stockists or fast food outlets. Further, glass ceilings in the private sector. Glass ceilings and ethnic cleansing in the 5 uniformed services. Glass ceilings in the police. Ceilings everywhere!

        If they study overseas, that medical university is de-recognised. They don’t want more Indian doctors and disrupt the ratio. No study loans for study in foreign universities. Who does this impact? Indians and Chinese!

        Up till the 70s there were 5 Indian banks. Due to forced mergers today there is none. If a community does not have a presence in banking and property development, they become vulnerable and at the mercy. No Indian developers because there will be allocation of land to Indian developers. It is out of the question. Not a single govt contract to Indian companies like Maika or Sampoorna while Malay and Chinese companies like MPH and Sunway get it time and again. Just imagine, not one in 30 years! No land allocation for agriculture, dairy and aqua culture. Whatever they have is taken away, like dairy farms and aquaculture fish farms. The list is long.

        First, an Indian is denied a license or permit. If at all he has one or rents one, he is denied bank loans or given such a small amount that he is geared to fail. You have to understand this part; if an Indian gets a loan, it is on such an amount and such terms that he is bound to fail. And then they exclaim, ‘there you are, Indians cannot do business’! Same thing that happens in tamil schools, underfund it so that it demoralises students and teachers. Whatever fields are available, they take it away so that Indians do not excel in sports. Whatever sports where Indians excel like hockey, rugby or cricket is underfunded.

        Indians are absent in the private retail sector due to inadequate allocation of goods on consignment by the supplier. Example, an Indian retailer is allocated 5 TVs and 5 fridges a month whereas the other retailers get an allocation of at least 30 units of each a month. One cant even buy cash from the wholesaler because he will deny he has any units left. “Sudah habis woh”! A retailer cannot survive with just 10 electrical units sold in a month. And consumers will gravitate to those well stocked shops.

        One Indian liquor wholesaler was forced out of the industry at gunpoint and RM150,000 cash for all his stocks. The cartel from a certain race does not want others in their territory. The auto lift jacks in a car mechanic shop are installed free by the motor oil supplier. No auto jacks for Indian mechanics. “Dont have stock. Must wait.” 3 years and still no jacks. They will not give you the jacks because 10 others from his own community is operating garages in that area and he does not want to piss them off.

        No one is allowed to succeed. In the private sector, the senior management will make it clear that there are 50 other executives from his race ‘ahead of you’. When Indian film distribution began to do well, BMG, Warner Music and MCA Records stepped in and took over. You never see Indian corner shoplots because the developer reserves it for his community.

        So on all sides they are marginalised and squeezed. The govt (BN or PR) will not reverse its policies. The private sector will not compromise on their chauvinism. Its easier to bring the moon here! For the moment, Indians should emigrate and work.

        1. Re. a reversal of the marginalisation policies in place.

          A revamp more like it.

          Re. One is the underfunding of schools

          I have commented that SJKT doesn’t have the same dynamism and support like that of SJKC. Due to this, the poor Indian, typical in the estates will be further marginalized in from the main stream society in term of economy.

          Re. and grossly insufficient places for matriculation.

          To start with many Indian students, don’t exceptionally well but when they do, they do. please google “Three top SPM students get Kijang Emas Scholarship 2013”

          But also believe in affirmative and opportunity along this, instead of meritocracy. The Malays have and still benefited from this but under MARA programme via UiTM.

          Re. Another is the denial of choice courses in universities.

          It applies to everyone, I have heard the same from my relatives and friends as well, not just Indians.

          Re. Another is the denial of govt contracts and permits to Indian businesses and lack of bank loans. No franchises for petrol stations, stockists or fast food outlets. Further, glass ceilings in the private sector. Glass ceilings and ethnic cleansing in the 5 uniformed services. Glass ceilings in the police. Ceilings everywhere!

          Totally agree. That is why a major revamp needed.

          Re. If they study overseas, that medical university is de-recognised. They don’t want more Indian doctors and disrupt the ratio.

          Never heard this, but can you furnish any report etc. But I know the GOMEN if very strict with accreditation wrt this not long ago due to poor performance of residents doctor from some foreign universities.

          Re. No study loans for study in foreign universities. Who does this impact?

          No study loan for Malays also fyi. I have a friend who daughter now studies Medicine in India and they have to fork out their own money as she didn’t get a place here.

          I have to break up your comment part by part.

          1. re: “If they study overseas, that medical university is de-recognised”

            Crimea State Medical University (CSMU)

            1. Bad quality resident officer. They don’t even know how to hold/use stethoscope properly plus other routine procedures.

          2. re: To start with many Indian students, don’t exceptionally well but when they do, they do. please google “Three top SPM students get Kijang Emas Scholarship 2013″

            Is there any deserving Indian students denied matriculation places and at the same time, less deserving Malay students get?

            re: It applies to everyone, I have heard the same from my relatives and friends as well, not just Indians.

            Would you agree if the government publish the name of students and their results for critical courses? Only then we are able to see who deserve the places.

            re: The Indians were trapped with the Maika Holding before so the learning curve is not good.

            Sad to say until today no investigation was made into the Maika scandal. MIC got scot free.

            re: The Indians don’t have these avenues and something like MARA or ASB is more appropriate.

            Why no MARA equivalent for Indians? They are also Malaysians. At least the Gomen should create one proportionately. Let say Bumi in Msia is 60% of the population and MARA was given a fund of RM6 bil. Then Indian as 10% should be given RM1 bil. I didn’t see such institution created.

            1. I accompanied Hindraf to lodge a report with the UN over the discrimination in Matriculation with plenty of evidence. I specifically highlighted one case; a Malay student with 8Ds got a place for matriculation but an Indian student with 8As was denied. And guess what, both students were from the same school! The evidence is with the UN. Please visit the Hindraf office for records of dozens of such cases.

              Yes, names and results of for critical courses should be published for transparency.

              There was no Maika scandal at all; it was just propaganda by the Subra faction. The audit reports show that there was no foul play.

              Re: Then Indian as 10% should be given RM1 bil.

              Agreed.

          3. “CSMU hogged the limelight after it was de-recognised by MMC in 2005, leaving hundreds of students in a limbo.” Crimea is recognised by the EU including Oxford, Cambridge and Imerial but not Malaysia. Imagine that!

            http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2013/07/30/csmu-ready-to-meet-all-conditions/

            Crimea was originally recognised, then de-recognised because of too many Indians.

            In another case an Indian university was derecognised because of Malaysian Indian students, then recognised after the University agreed to take in only students sponsored by the Malaysian govt. Meaning, Malays only.

            How is it a university is recognised if Malay students are taken in but derecognised if Indians are taken?

            There is no need for Malay students to study medicine overseas as there are enough places here. Unless of course the student did not get good results.

        2. Part 2.

          Re. Up till the 70s there were 5 Indian banks. Due to forced mergers today there is none. If a community does not have a presence in banking and property development, they become vulnerable and at the mercy.

          Very true. But banking is not the solution something like MARA is more appropriate. The Indians were trapped with the Maika Holding before so the learning curve is not good.

          Re. No Indian developers because there will be allocation of land to Indian developers.

          No Money No Talk. The Malays have MARA, Tabung Haji, ASB, few others and they joint venture to go into this now. The Indians don’t have these avenues and something like MARA or ASB is more appropriate.

          Note: The Indians have started to think along the line of communal effort first and no longer individual if any the lesson learned thus far, the rich Indians don’t help the poor Indians.

          Re. Not a single govt contract to Indian companies like Maika or Sampoorna while Malay and Chinese companies like MPH and sunway.

          a. Please reread Maika History. Not familiar with sampoorna.

          b. MPH @ Tan Sri Syed Mohktar is in a different mode and term. Too lazy to re-comment but the gist of story, give back to the community. Many of the Malay businessmen are in the same mode and term now.

          c. Not sure about Sunway, but YTL, Lim Kok Wing, Berjaya, Ananda Krishnan, Robert Kwok are political allience, but sadly they only look after their own pocket. The same goes with Samy Vellu.

          Re. Just imagine, not one in 30 years! No land allocation for agriculture, dairy and aqua culture. Whatever they have is taken away, like dairy farms and aquaculture fish farms. The list is long.

          This goes back to affirmative action and communal effort to begin with. No longer at individual level e.g. there is some Indians in Felda now and program like this need to be emphasized. I talked about Agropolitant program before, that is another avenue. Please google.

          1. Banking is the single most important institution for a community to progress. Without a bank Indians will be at the mercy of bankers.

            Re: developers, land is not allocated to Indians for development, so there are few and small Indian developers. On the way from USJ to KLIA, there are many development projects, but none allocated to Indian companies, all allocated to crony companies. There are several Indian cooperatives but they simply don’t get land allotted to them too. There is no excuse for not allocating land to Indian companies or cooperatives.

            That the rich Indians don’t help the poor Indians is simply not true. There is quite a bit of networking but financial and contractual assistance is only possible if they have excess.

            Yes, what is needed is a felda like scheme for Indians. That is what Waytha proposed in the Memorandum and accepted by BN but till today it is not implemented causing him to resign!

        3. Part 3

          Re. Indians are absent in the private retail sector due to inadequate allocation of goods on consignment by the supplier.

          Indians and Malays don’t have the supply chain network like the Chinese. They have dominated and mastered for a long time. The Malays have started to look into this actually.

          Re. One Indian liquor wholesaler was forced out of the industry at gunpoint and RM150,000 cash for all his stocks. The cartel from a certain race does not want others in their territory. The auto lift jacks in a car mechanic shop are installed free by the motor oil supplier. No auto jacks for Indian mechanics. “Dont have stock. Must wait.” 3 years and still no jacks. They will not give you the jacks because 10 others from his own community is operating garages in that area and he does not want to piss them off.

          The Chinese are selfish business community, I have said this many times. Just read the other that a Malay guy with funds and owned shoplot wanted to have Old Town White Coffee franchisee, but the management said sorry we don’t do business with the Malays. There are many other stories and it has been going on since forever.

          The Indian need to learn and deal with this scenario,

          Re. No one is allowed to succeed.

          Not true. There are many names in private sectors but majority of higher caste or ethic clan.

          Re. In the private sector, the senior management will make it clear that there are 50 other executives from his race ‘ahead of you’.

          Very true, the Chinese have done that to the Malays as well and that’s why they are in control of top management in private sectors.

          The Malay have Gomen agency and GLC to fall back on, the Indian have no body.

          Re. When Indian film distribution began to do well, BMG, Warner Music and MCA Records stepped in and took over.

          This is a called business strategy and monopoly so deal with it.

          Re. You never see Indian corner shoplots because the developer reserves it for his community.

          Yes, the Malays have suffered the same before, but now with UDA, TH Properties, Naza TTDI Group, etc. etc. to fall back on.

          The Indians don’t have this network.

          Re. So on all sides they are marginalised and squeezed.

          If the Indians themselves don’t start to work in sync from now on, they are forever going to be marginalized. I have commented about this so many times.

          Re. The govt (BN or PR) will not reverse its policies. The private sector will not compromise on their chauvinism. Its easier to bring the moon here! For the moment, Indians should emigrate and work.

          Again if the Indians themselves don’t start to work in sync from now on, they are forever going to be marginalized. I have commented about this so many times. They will not have political, economic, social etc. advantage as a group.

          Point to Ponder.

          Bersatu Teguh, Bercerai Roboh.

          Bulat Air Kerana Pembentung, Bulat Manusia Kerana Muafakat.

          1. Indians were doing fine in business in the 50s and were even financing the Chinese, but with their marginalisation in the 60s, a vacuum was created which was filled by the chinese so completely that they have a clear dominance horizontally in wholesale to retail. By marginalising the Indians it only strengthened the Chinese stronghold in the economy for which the Malays pay dearly.

            It is not about ‘working in sync’, it is about being deprived of opportunities by the govt! For instance, if no taxi license is given, the Indian has no choice but to rent it from a Malay at RM800, which means it is scarcely enough. For him, it is little or none! He was deprived of an equal opportunity. This is what I mean. Now this applies to all sectors*

            Another example: there are 5,000 scrap metal dealers, whose licenses are threatened every year at renewal. They have no choice but to pay RM 2,000-RM3,000 as bribes just to renew their license. They say that they have no choice but to steal copper wire and such just to recoup these losses or else they have to close shop! By marginalising them it is we the rakyat who finally pay the price!

            It is not about working in sync. It is about licences, permits, land allocation and loans!

            1. Re. It is not about working in sync.

              If you don’t have a strong collective voice like it is presently, you are less likely to succeed in your demand and effort. The Chinese have built their own network and supply chain for more than 50 years now, while the Malays have started to realize about the importance of networking and supply chain during Tun M era, but only for the past few years it is beginning to crystallize; we still have a long way to go.

              Re. It is about licences, permits, land allocation and loans!

              Read all of my other comments. Bottom line is, if you don’t have a string leader to represent you and in return you give him/her undivided support, you are forever going to be marginalized.

              1. Couldn’t agree more with LOL on the need for a good leader and undivided support being crucial for the Indians.

                The Malays (all Malaysians too) had Tun M to thanked too for this.

                But the last two PMs are nothing but menjahanamkan!

  6. It would be insightful if we could get the feelings of Indians in general as reported in their vernacular papers, especially in write-ups by Hindu writers. These articles should be made available to the general public so that more readers share their plights.

    1. Here’s one. The Malaysian First state government of Lim Guan Eng appears to have promised the Indians a secondary Tamil school to be build in Penang.

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      1. LOL. The same old LGE trick ! I didn’t read the paper because I am overseas but the 2nd line says “the CM sent a letter to the DPM”. He knows that this is mission impossible so he will later claim that he demanded for a school but the Fed govt refused! Just like in the case of local govt elections.

        If he wants a Tamil sec school, just go ahead and build it.

  7. Eh, I don’t know, maybe readers here like your site and they know about your personal involvement with Hindraf so they take care to jaga your hati.

    Hindraf started by antagonising the government and Malays and haven’t done much to alleviate the hurt they caused, this is the reason you see the backlash in those pro UMNO websites. Don’t know why Pakatan supporters hate them, but maybe they would hate any Chinese or Indians connected or trying to connect with the establishment or anything, who knows.

    About recent developments, him breaking off with Najib and dumping him first definitely doesn’t do any good for Najib, just one more reinforcing lesson for his successor, no more olive branches afterwards.

    So putting it mildly, he’s just making people who already dislike him, dislike him more. Also not expecting his group to do anything constructive after this as well, just brewing more conflict.

  8. Saya menahan diri dari memberi komen berkaitan hal hindraf dan najib ini..

    Kebodohan melampaui batasan..

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