Relatives of the China passengers on board MH370 vented their anger at the Malaysian government in a letter to Zhang Yesui, China’s special envoy to Kuala Lumpur.
The letter said:
“As families of the passengers, we have to express our anger and disappointment towards the handling of MH370 incident by the Malaysian government after going through the pain and torture for 18 days.
“Fortunately, we are Chinese, and we deeply feel the solid support given to each family members by the Chinese government. Our nation has made every endeavour to search for the passengers, and its determination to find out the truth has become a booster for each family member.”
Letter demands an apology
In their letter (full text HERE), the China families also urged Beijing to press the Malaysian government to “release related information in a truthful, accurate and timely manner”.
They want the Malaysian government to make an apology while at the same time they want the China government “to give long-term and effective support to the families in legal proceedings, accident investigation, determination of responsibility, and seeking compensation”.
In relation to the compensation sought, the relatives want Beijing to provide free legal assistance for them to take related legal proceedings.
They further want Beijing to ensure that “the Malaysian side as promised will pay for the air fares, food and accommodation for trips going back and forth Malaysia until the whole incident has been handled. The number of trips is unlimited”.
Picture source: via The Unspinners
China is “big nation” that needs to protect its face
“The way the Malaysian authorities are handling the incident is inhumane and irresponsible and shows disrespect to life,” the letter said. See ‘Flight MH370 relatives express anger over Malaysia in letter to China’s special envoy in Kuala Lumpur‘ (South China Morning Post, 27 March 2014)
The letter concluded on the hope that China “will handle the incident from the perspective of national security and national image, protecting the rights of the citizens and not giving up. This is a reflection of the status of a big nation”.
BELOW: Malaysian government is accused as “despicable”
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Meanwhile in Malaysia
Wanita MCA chief Heng Seai Kie in her statement yesterday urged the DAP politicians and opposition supporters to reflect “whether or not they have helped spread news on the social media with the aim of discrediting Malaysia’s image”.
Following Heng’s finger-pointing, we would like the MCA to tell us how far are the DAP and their Dapsters responsible for the bad press in the Chinese language social media.
Sin Chew, in an opinion piece two days ago by its deputy editor-in-chief Tay Tian Yan, said that Chinese netizens have been aggressively lashing out at the Malaysian government, branding it killers and even painting Malaysians as “beasts, trash and lowly beings”.
Following Sin Chew‘s acknowledgement that Chinese netizens have been on a campaign of aggression to bash the Malaysian government, we would like the MCA to tell us what the party has done in the Chinese language social media to counter the slander.
What else more could Malaysia have done?
It is unreasonable for the Chinese families to demand information that Malaysia is unable to provide. There have been daily briefings and it is doubtful that the Transport Minister has anything more to reveal which he has not already done.
As to the other accusation of cover-up made by the China relatives, there is no indication that the Malaysian government has been untruthful and indeed no reason for it to be so. With regard to accuracy and timeliness, the Minister has already explained that all info needs to be checked and verified first.
As to their blood libel that Malaysia are “murderers”/”executioners” of their kith and kin, the allegation is as irrational as it can get.
DAP and MCA, what’s the difference?
What is more pertinent though is whether the DAP and their Dapsters played any role in fanning this irrationality through the persistent fitnah of the BN (“the Malay government”) and whether the MCA and their purported one million party members have made any effort to counter the slander emanating from the Malaysian Chinese social media.
Finally, on the accusation that the Malaysian authorities have been “inhumane and irresponsible” as well as “disrespectful”, quite to the contrary, the Malaysian authorities have shown compassion, a sense of responsibility and been more than respectful.
That these kinds of accusations have surfaced among the China Chinese indicates either how effective the Red Bean Army might have been or how useless and hopeless the MCA is that Malaysia’s international reputation is so sullied.
Helen Ang 
PLEASE MAKE CARGO DECLARATION ON MH370 IS THERE ANY CARGO BELONGED TO DIPLOMATIC OF CHINA GOVT , CLAIMED WEIGHT 20TONS ,
IF YES IT IS , THEN ASK THE CHINA DIPLOMAT ,,,WHAT IS THE CONTENT OF THE SAID CARGO ?
IS THIS CARGO ORIGIN FROM AFGHANISTAN ?
IS THIS CARGO WAS ORIGINALLY BELONGED TO THE US ARMY ?
DO YOUR HOME WORK PLS
IF YES YES IT IS – THAT MEAN CHINA GOVT MUST TELL THE WORLD WHAT IS INSIDE THE CARGO ?
CHINA IS THE REAL SHIT IF THIS UNKNOWN CARGO HIDING UNDER DIPLOMATIC STATUS WHICH IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE CARRY BY COMMERCIAL AIRLINE FOR SOME REASONS , THAT MEAN THEY ;RE THE REAL KILLER .
THOSE CHINESE IF YOU NOT LOYAL WITH THIS COUNTRY YOU CAN LEAVE THIS COUNTRY AND GO TO ANY COUNTRY YOU COMFORTABLE WITH ,,,,,, WE NOT WELL COME YOU ALL TO STAY HERE , IF YOU CANNOT RESPECT OUR PERLEMBAGAAN , I WAS BORN HERE AND I WISH I WOULD DIE HERE , TANAH MELAYU FORMALLY THIS WAS YOUR REAL NAME , WAS IN THE HISTORY ,,,WE NOT HERE FOREVER WE ONLY HERE FOR TODAY , WITH THIS KIND OF ATTITUDE WHERE EVER YOU GO NO ONE WILL LIKE YOU , YOU ALL MAKING TONS OF MONEY HERE IN MALAYSIA AFTER YOU ALL BECOMES RICH THEN YOU WANTED TO SHOW YOUR COLOR ,,
Next time pls use lower case (small letters), thanks.
i like the capital letters. it indicates the insistence for this particular post.
I concur.
Is that your “Malaysian English”, Cheng?
It doesn’t say much for the Malaysian education system, does it?
As does the unedifying sight of the Malaysians struggling to express themselves fluently in English at the press conferences and briefings, Minister Hishamuddin being a notable exception.
Heck, even Singapore’s Channel NewsAsia TV reporters and newscasters are way more articulate and fluent. Which, incidentally, says much for the Singapore education system. But that’s another topic for another day.
And if you are making a big deal about the cargo carried by MH370, then consider the following:
– why isn’t MAS or the Malaysian government making the contents of the cargo manifest public?
– if MH370 was carrying “contraband” or “illegal” cargo, then how did it get past Malaysian Customs and the mandatory cargo screening at KLIA?
Bear in mind that MH370 took off from KLIA. It was freshly prepped for the flight to Beijing. All the cargo on the flight was on-loaded at KLIA.
So, was there a security breach/breaches at KLIA? That, surely, should have been determined by now, unless the information is being suppressed while police investigations are ongoing.
Anyway, KLIA is long past it’s glory days. It’s not even in the top 10 rankings in the Skytrax 2014 world airport rankings – which is topped, no surprises, by Changi Airport.
Do you think Malaysia Airports is bothered by this?
THIS ENGLISH , IS VERY SIMPLE ENGLISH EASY TO UNDERSTAND FOR SOME MALAYSIAN , USED MALAYSIA STRD ENGLISH
I STAYED IN CHINA BE4 , I KNOW THEIR MENTALITY , THEY ARE NICE PEOPLE , I BEEN TO MANY COUNTRIES AND I ALWAYS TOLD MY FRIENDS I PREFER TO SETTLE DOWN IN CHINA,,, BUT I MUST THINK TWICE AFTER MH370…INCIDENT
REFER TO CARGO CARRIER UNDER DIPLOMATIC DECLARATION
AND FOR MORE DETAILS YOU PLEASE REFER TO THE PREVIOUS BLOG , THEY DID MENTIONED ABOUT THIS ISSUED .
GOVT OF CHINA CARRIED THE 20 TONS OF CARGO ORIGIN FROM AFGHANISTAN , BUT ORIGINALLY BELONGED TO US ARMY,,,,, I NOT CREATED STORIES WITHOUT FACT …..
AND WHO WAS THE 8/6 CHINESE EXPERTISE ON BOARD , WHO ARE THEY ?
NOW IT SEEM EVERY ONE POINTED YOUR MIDDLE FINGER TO M’SIA GOVT ,
TRIPLE 777 IS VERY SAFE AIRCRAFT ,,, AND FLOWN BY VERY EXPERIENCED PILOT , LOGICALLY THIS WOULD NEVER HAPPENED .
THAT IS WHY IN THIS CASE WHAT WE SUGGESTED FOR THE BOTH PARTIES TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT
THAT IS FROM MAS AND THE DIPLOMATIC OF CHINA REGARDING THE 20 TONS ,,, EXIST OR NOT JUST , TO ENSURE THERE WAS/NO SUCH CARGO ON BOARD ,
US MUST SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THIS ,
SOMETIME THE TRUTHFULNESS IS VERY SOUR TO SWALLOW BUT IT HELP TO CURE OUR PROBLEMS
I TRAVELS WITH MANY AIRLINES BUT I STILL CAN TELL YOU MAS STILL THE BEST
I agree with Cheng. If the next five or six days looking around in Indian Ocean prove to be another round of fruitless effort, the UK (the owner) and the US (the leaser & operator of the military base) have to let multinational SAR to scour Diego Garcia.
*By the way, hands off the caps lock dude. Sakit mata nak baca..
Ignore Gooberman, Cheng.
I, who got an A in my SPM English way back in 1970 can understand your intended message very well.
As a veteran journalist, I can tell you that there is a tendency amongst English-literate anti-establishment, western imperialist-funded NGO-types and “l-a-a-a-yers” to pick on their opponent’s grammar, spelling, diction, and other aspects which are unrelated to the issue at hand, instead of providing relevant counter arguments or rebuttals.
Such cheap methods are the last refuge of those bereft of counter arguments.
Don’t waste your time and energy on the likes of them.
As for your arguments, there are valid reasons to find out whether there are any diplomatic pouches on that ill-fated plane and what is in them and whether is hazardous.
I also believe that there is a need to look on Diego Garcia as well, as there are sightings by people on Mauritius of a low flying plane fitting the description of an MAS Boeing 777 at the time.
Sure, there are lots of conspiracy theories floating around and we also must be careful not to fall for them, as they usually contain some elements of truth mixed with many mis-interpretations, distortions and falsehoods.
However, that does not mean that we cannot consider what they claim and analyse it against more credible facts and information.
FYI, a diplomatic pouch (which could be any size, despite the misnomer of a term) is not subject to Customs declaration. Theoretically, it is possible to ship contraband/illegal items under the guise of a diplomatic shipment.
Well, then, MAS should be upfront as to whether MH370 had “diplomatic pouches” in the cargo.
And where these “diplomatic pouches” originated from – in Malaysia or in transit through KLIA from a another country?
Are the Malaysian intelligence services not keeping tabs on what goes out in these “diplomatic pouches”?
It’s hard to imagine that there were things so valuable or volatile in these alleged “diplomatic pouches” in MH370’s cargo that would have adversely affected the aircraft into catastrophic failure.
So, why is it so difficult to pin this down?
Perhaps that’s why Malaysian authorities asked the Aussie investigators to request the cargo manifest officially before it’s handed to them.
Having been in the logistics industry for a number of years now, we pick & choose which country’s diplomatic pouch to collect. We would decline those that are unwilling to voluntarily declare that the items sent are not hazardous nor illegal in nature.
However a few of our competitors would happily pick them up for an additional “handling” fee.
As for our intelligence keeping tabs on what goes out or come in via diplomatic pouches, it can be difficult as some pouches are accompanied all the way by a staffer with diplomatic immunity. And forcibly scanning the pouches could end up in an international uproar.
I’ve said it earlier, I say it now and I will say it again and again…. forever…. NEVER TRUST THE CHINESE…..
A blanket condemnation of an entire race of people is not being reasonable.
And neither should Chinese be condemned for voting DAP. That’s just exercise in democracy.
You need to particularize.
e.g. never trust a DAP evangelist Yang Berhormat who is a munafik, and the solid reasons why.
‘A blanket condemnation of an entire race of people is not being reasonable.’
Yes, not right to generalise. Like any other race on earth, the Chinese have their own negative traits and characteristics. Why target them only? Take a good, honest look at Malays and Indians these days. How different are they really from the Chinese?
Even some of those influenced by DAP happen to be good people. I have quite a few good friends who have been brainwashed by DAP. I simply do not talk about politics with them and vice versa. Our friendships are far more important to us than any political belief.
‘And neither should Chinese be condemned for voting DAP. That’s just exercise in democracy.’
Exactly. In the democratic context, any objection to political preference is unacceptable.
Some say the Chinese betrayed the country by voting DAP almost en masse. That’s perception and its unfair.
I say deal with it.
The Indians are screwed either way. If the Malays are too disunited to face up to the DAP juggernaut, whose fault is it?
The Malaysian Chinese dont realise what dark waters there are reaching into. The Malays cant trust them, the Mainland Chinese cant differentiate them from other Malaysians and cant trust them.
Time will tell. It is TiME to sufer economically and politically.
PS PAS is dragged in too into this mess eventually.
re: The Malaysian Chinese dont realise what dark waters there are reaching into.
Yes, they’ve made their democratic choice.
They too have to deal with the sopo consequences.
P.S. Imagine what things would be like for DAP if PAS allied with UMNO…
Re P.S. Imagine what things would be like for DAP if PAS allied with UMNO…
You’re being mischievous here……….
Pas + Umno…….for DAP. it will mean the end of the road for them really, they will be in no man’s land, riding into oblivion.
I actually believe a Pas + Umno alliance is a possibility in the near future.
Think about it, the Chinese community’s rising assertiveness with regards to social, political, economic and religious issues, with the implicit and explicit backing of the DAP will drive more Malays and Muslims into rethinking the “social contract”, if it ever existed.
Pas may not make it known publicly that they are not comfortable with the DAP and the Chinese community’s rising assertiveness but they surely know too, as Umno and other well informed Malays/Muslims know, that this assertiveness being exhibited by the Chinese, if it is not contained, will eventually pose a threat to Pas’ aspirations as well.
re: “the Chinese community’s rising assertiveness”
It’s Christian triumphalism.
The Segambut DAP Member of Parliament, who said that his party having control of the Air Force and Navy will be able to locate MH370, is a staunch Christian.
Before the advent of DAP 2.0 (now upgraded to DAP 3.0), we did not see this behaviour. In the MCA’s 65 years of existence, the Chinese party’s Wanita wing never produced a Hannah Yeoh.
It’s the evangelista factor – never present before politically within the Malaysian Chinese community – which makes the current crop of aggressive YBs different from their counterparts of the past.
Re It’s Christian triumphalism.
To add, more and more urban, educated Chinese, whether from vernacular or national schools, are embracing the Christian faith.
Your community is ruined.
Same with the Indians. Also ruined.
Only the Malay/Muslim community can stop them now.
re: ‘Pas + Umno…….for DAP. it will mean the end of the road for them really, they will be in no man’s land, riding into oblivion.
I actually believe a Pas + Umno alliance is a possibility in the near future.’
I think deep inside, all Malays and both UMNO and PAS are aware of their religion centered secret weapon. Probably why UMNO doesn’t seem to worried about DAP, for now anyway.
When (DAP) push comes to shove, my guess is that the Malays will effortlessly unite under the banner of Muslim unity and DAP and their unexpecting evangelista hounds will be up shit creek without a paddle.
The only problem for me is that this may also spell trouble for moderate non-Muslims.
DAP chameleon evangelistas will join the Umno-PAS club. Buddhists and Hindus pandai-pandai lah jaga diri.
re: ‘DAP chameleon evangelistas will join the Umno-PAS club. Buddhists and Hindus pandai-pandai lah jaga diri.’
I hope the UP Club wises up and comes to its senses by then.
It’d be a pleasure to see the selendang squad reptiles kicked out on their asses.
re: “It’d be a pleasure to see the selendang squad reptiles kicked out on their asses.”
Gargantuan in size. Not so easy to kick out. See, https://helenang.wordpress.com/2014/03/30/who-would-you-choose-as-your-president/#comment-78724
Hahaha…hell yeah!
we cannot says that chinese people cannot be trusted
same like you there are good and bad , some of them very loyal to the nation,,,, wit no doubt,,,
some malays are bad too ,,, some how or rather the person who started created problem in this country is anuwar ibrahim and dap
without this 2 rubbishes we all living together in peace
“without this 2 rubbishes we all living together in peace”
Cheng, thats a brilliant statement. Thanks for venting the frustration on my behalf too especially looking at their hypocrisy via their extreme marriage of convenience and being thick skin they can go on and on acting and pretending especially on agree to disagree (an illusionist so they are to herd us into simplicity).
If Pakatan were to rule in future they would definitely really have a hard time because they already have set a precedent of how you should behave as an opposition. What goes around comes around man.
Another thing, they always manipulate the word “rakyat” as though they represent all Malaysian. Tak malu thats why I call them thick skin.
thanks Ellen,we must live in peace and respect, i was away , for quite sometimes , came back recently mh370 issue , and court judgement for liwat case , govt must do something to put all those troublemakers behind bars , LET OUR GENERATION LIVING TOGETHER.
and helen you should do something in your blog ‘jangan’ keluarkan comments perkauman ……………..” ‘pls enough is enough .
Something is fishy about the China family protests at our Malaysian High Commission – the posters were all well printed on good quality placards and now this overwrought demand for “unlimited travel”.
Yeah right, the moment they are able to step foot onto Perth (on a waived visa and free plane ride, no less), watch them disappear into Chinatown looking for a job to ‘wash the big biscuit’!
Please compare them to the sad but dignified response of one of the adult children of the elderly Australian couple who were on MH370,
Enough with these pura-pura emo no-manners people, as if they are the only ones who have lost family members; trading their grief for benefits.
And as for the celebrities ranting on Weibo – please, it’s just to maintain their popularity with the fans. Boycott la.. whatever rocks your boat, we’ll manage just fine, thank you.
In the philosophy of one very high-end hotel chain: We are ladies and gentlemen serving ladies and gentlemen. If a guest ceases to behave like one, we no longer need to serve such guests.
Really? You seem to have a poor opinion of Australian immigration and border controls.
Coloured by your experiences in Malaysia, eh?
Like when Ahmad Zahid Hamidie opined that it’s too laborious and time-consuming to check passports against the Interpol database of lost and stolen passports.
Only to be publicly rebutted by Interpol.
The Minister should have picked up the phone and checked with his Singapore counterpart before putting his foot in his mouth.
23 years of dealing with the Australian immigration and border crossing; I’ve seen my fair share of the good, the bad and the laughable part about them. Nothing is perfect in this world.
Agreed, macam la diorang je yang affected. Dah jadi menyampah tengok relative2 yang taksub tu.
Its all about the Money. Tu pasal lah mengada-ngada sampai semua orang satu Malaysia ni diorang tibai.
Mata duitan is their nicest trait. It goes downhill from there.
They think their government care about them numbering just a few hundred against the whole population of over a billion? They are dreaming really. Honorable people my a**.
They have no respect from me.
Over 2 dozen countries are involved plus netizens worldwide coming forward to volunteer their help in search of the missing plane, we have unreasonable few who just cannot contain their feelings!
The worst are them opportunists who try to take advantage of this situation. What a shame!
It is easy to punch at the letters and numbers on your keyboard in the comfort of your homes, if you are not contributing to help find this plane.. please SHUT UP!
Shut up tu, me included ya Cik Helen…
Bila pikiaq 9/11 World Trade Center, the konon fast/quick/ well-briefed decisions made by konon intelligent people like Bush and Blair… history showed us what finally what happened!
Ms H. Interesting points being raised. Please consider the following :-
1. The key in dealing with any crisis or emergcncy whether medical or otherwise is in the FIRST HOUR OR 60 MINUTES.
2. Until 1982, Singapore controlled the Malaysian air-space right up to Perlis from Singapore. A relice of British colonialism
Ms H. I have seen with my own eyes that VIPs walked through the Immigration without passports. And a defendant at a Kuala Lumpur High Court Trial got away scott-free when the Immigration Officer admitted that on festive days, the gates at the Johor Baru Immigration were thrown open for all to rush to Singapore without their passports being examined or stamped ! Abang-adeks !
“It is unreasonable for the Chinese families… -Helen “
Mainlander Chinese are not easy to placate or reasoned with in the first place. Their attitude is foreign to our generally meek culture.
Malaysia’s shaky handling of the issue when it first happened also didn’t instill confidence in the families that were affected, although that has somewhat improved the week after.
Local Chinese who naively joined the bashing fest are stooges although I never monitor any social media/ forums for their stupidity level. MCA and some Chinese leaders better do something now before it’s too late; the yin-yang balance of the Chinese community has gone for too long already, the bullshit level has reached alarming state.
‘Local Chinese who naively joined the bashing fest…’
They certainly locals. But naive, I don’t think so!
Re: “Local Chinese who naively joined the bashing fest …”
Question: all these Cina M’sia yang duk bash kerajaan sendiri, don’t they ever think of the consequences? Do they think that by joining with the PRC Chinese, it’s going to endear them to the PRC Chinese and for what purpose? Do they think that the PRC Chinese will be instrumental to overthrow the current M’sian government? Are they that naive?
How do these Chinese know for certain that our govt is not giving all the facts? The known facts are MH370 depart at 12.40 am on March 8 and MH370 did not land at 6.30am on March 8 in Beijing, and the last communications was at about 1.19 am when someone on board the plane signed off to DCA but did not communicate with Vietnam.
All other “facts” are based on pings and pongs and satellite images, educated guesses and sound waves and mathematics. And to the really dumb Malaysian bashers, how do they account for the failure of FAA, NTSB, AAIB and god knows what other international agencies (mat saleh pulak tu) to pin point the general location of where MH370 is now?
Malaysia yang according to them Melayu bodoh tak boleh jumpa sebab bodoh, korup & sebagainya. So mat saleh yang tolong tu and PRC themselves dengan teknologi yang terkini pun tak boleh nak jumpa, apakah kerana mereka juga bodoh dan korup?
The angry relatives are only able to lash out because their government allows them too, to place all blame and responsibility on our small Malaysian country. This is how they chose to reflect themselves as a big nation and save face. Disgraceful.
As for the baseless accusations, murdering people, keeping secrets, sounds more like our government or theirs? They’re projecting so hard.
“… all these Cina M’sia yang duk bash kerajaan sendiri, don’t they ever think of the consequences?”
This is all or nothing game to them; they’re totally brainwashed , so do you think they ever aware of the consequences? Heng Seai Kie was called perempuan sial in one of NKM’s facebook thread; how can you reason with these sorts of people?
As for the rest of the arguments about Malaysia’s supposed incompetence or not (there’s already of lot of pundits writing about it), I’d say, let’s take this opportunity to plug whatever holes in the immigration dept, MAS, military, and so on.
re: “Heng Seai Kie was called perempuan sial in one of NKM’s facebook thread”
Still mild compared to what they did to Chew Mei Fun during the Kajang by-election.
Malaysia yang according to them Melayu bodoh tak boleh jumpa sebab bodoh, korup & sebagainya
The Malaysian Chinese blindly screaming ABU and Najis is quite clever? Self praise is no praise. One day the most hated attribute in Malaysia would be Chinese + Christian. As one Malaysian with both attributes, one day the Novice Chinese Christian will reap.
What has Chinese Christians done for MH370? Except for praying, I am ashamed to say NOTHING. The Buddhist have set up humanitarian efforts together with the Muslims.
The only Chinese Christian leadership contribution is government mocking. We have seen one Johorian say that.
Yes.., like it or not, the placard that says, ‘..MALIESIA..’ is so true. The whole world can clearly see that Malaysia (i.e. the govt.) is lying about something on the MH370 issue.
Again.., the placard ”..Don’t Hide, Don’t Lie..” as well as the “..Real Eyes Realise (or can see or detect) Real Lies..” says it all.
I have long supported the BN government and shall continue to support the able & capable BN government for years to come.., God Willing. But, I simply cannot support BLATANT lies. Again.., the operative word here is ‘BLATANT’..! When one tend to lie, one would have to continue to concoct more lies to cover-up the initial and so on & so on, until all those lies blows-up into one’s own face,., sooner or later.
For how long can Najib & Co. concoct more lies & spin to cover-up the crime by some evil hand. Did Najib not say that – “MAS Flight 370 had been deliberately diverted from its planned flight path..” as per this URL:-
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-flight.html?_r=0&referrer=
Well, if that is the case, then MH370 was diverted by whom..? And, this question of ‘who did it’ has never been addressed. Thus, who is Najib & Co. are going to point their fingers at..?
Geo-politically speaking, Najib & Co. must take the crucial move by taking sides on this issue. He must decide who is the culprit? Was it perpetrated by some aliens/UFO? Was it by the Chinese or the Vietnamese military? Or was it shot-down by the US Naval Fleet..? Or perhaps perpetrated by the ‘lone-wolf’ Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah who was so depressed & frustrated by the courts decision to jail his political idol for sodomy charges, that he would kill himself along with 238 others.
Who would have the most plausible motive and would benefit the most for the disappearance of MH370..? Whoever it is, which Najib had made the statement that someone did it (diverted the flight path) but yet he dares not say ., who..!
If and until Najib & Co. has the courage to say who done it, then it is fair for some Chinese people of China who would say – “MALIESIA.., or ”..Don’t Hide, Don’t Lie..”
Thus.., Najib & Co. must decide & act quickly to squash the notion Malaysia has a lying government. All are still waiting despite the announcement that MH370 has ‘ended’ in some area of south of the Indian Ocean. And that, compensations (insurance & likewise) for the beneficiaries of the victims is in the pipeline.
This time around , the political game for Najib & Co. is much, much bigger now.., he is now not merely up against some local oddball political parties in the likes of PAS, DAP or PKR. International geo-politics have some powerful, far-reaching & evil ‘hidden-hands’ that meddle and recognises no political nor national boundaries.
Najib & Co. must realise that the politics of ‘playing safe’ and trying to please everyone does not really work. Even many great prophets in history or the selfless modern-day politician & freedom-fighter in the likes of Mahatma Ghandi could have vouched for that.
Najib & Co. must say & tell the facts as it is with regards to the fate of MH370.., and not dance to the tune of some powerful, far-reaching & global ‘hidden-hands’. In short, don’t dance to the tune of the devil. Period..!
How do you answer a question when you don’t have the answers yet?
You think only Malaysians are trying to find out what’s going on?
We have foreign agencies like FBI and foreign transport safety agencies on the case. You accuse them of cover up, lying and spinning too?
All those angry people want is a scape goat and Malaysia’s an easy target.
Taking sides? What are you rambling on about? You are just as bad as those people. Seeking to accuse somebody when we don’t have the facts yet. Ever consider the possibility that we would never ever know what happened? Who will you accuse then?
Also, the Chinese families rage is a result of the Chinese government failure to properly inform and counsel the relatives.
Leaving their minds vulnerable to various speculation, conspiracy theories and devious people with their own private objectives.
Pitiful people.
re: “Leaving their minds vulnerable to various speculation, conspiracy theories and devious people with their own private objectives.”
They are reading (getting their info) in Chinese. There have been international media reports saying the some of the families/relatives don’t understand English, hence the need for the Malaysian delegation to Beijing to use translators.
It was also reported that the sms, sent in English by MAS wrt to the PM’s announcement that the flight ended in the Indian Ocean, was not understood by some of the kin.
Therefore in this regard, the China families are vulnerable to the disinformation put out by the Red Bean Army.
“Therefore in this regard, the China families are vulnerable to the disinformation put out by the Red Bean Army”
huh?
“…How do you answer a question when you don’t have the answers yet..?” did you say..?
Well.., how did Najib provide conclusive answers by suggesting that MH370 had ‘ended’ somewhere in the Indian Ocean, by merely taking the words of Inmarsat..? And where is the material evidence of the wreckage of flight MH370 to CONCLUSIVELY support his answer..? And why has Najib ‘jumped the gun’ to this conclusion without any material evidence whatsoever other than the readings of Inmarsat..? Who is he trying to fool and why must he put more embarassment upon Malaysia..?
Of course not only Malaysians are trying to find out what’s going on. But rest assured that many other quarters are doing all they can to cover-up and not to allow the general public to know what had really happened to Flight MH370.
Do you really trust the FBI..? That is like asking the fox to guard the chicken coop. Understand..!? Have you read the case of Sibel Edmonds (an ex-FBI cum employee cum whistleblower) who tried to shed some light on the 9-11 incident but was stonewalled by the FBI. Go google her name and check it out for yourself. And.., that’s not even the tip of the iceberg on the 9-11 tragedy. OK..!?
That’s the idea.., Malaysia has to be the stooge and scapegoat on this MH370 issue. Just like Osama ben Laden was the scapegoat for the 9-11 incident. Just like Saddam Hussein was made a scapegoat in suggesting that he had amassed Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD).., and so on. Understand again..!?
Unless of course Malaysia has the balls to stand-up and say to those evil Neo-Cons cum Globalists that they can go fly kite..! Otherwise, some spin can be concocted by those Western mainstream-media in suggesting that Malaysia had lied to whole world and be made a scapegoat for the so-called lies.., with regard to the Flight MH370 issue.
Yes.., taking sides. Anything wrong with that..? Some people take sides in supporting (say) Liverpool football club while others support Man. Utd. or Arsenal for instance, even though they have nothing to do whatsoever with those clubs.
And.., Dr. Mahathir was quite good in doing that, i.e. in taking sides. He has a Cakap Serupa Bikin Punya character. When he came into power he said – “Buy British Last”.., “Look East..” and so on. But he had no enmity with anyone, except that he always had an arms-length policy with those Zionists/Israeli/Jews. Admittedly, Dr. Mahathir did a very good job in developing and ‘protecting’ Malaysia (from foreign meddling) during his 22 year tenure as Prime Minister.
Who shall I accuse did you ask..? Well, I always like to listen to Sheikh Imran Hossein’s lecture via the internet and also once sometime ago attended when he gave a ceramah at our nearby surau with regards to Islamic Eschatology or the study of the ‘End-Times’, which apparently seems to be drawing closer by-the-day. So, you can guess who should are the real culprits if you follow Sheikh Imran Hossein’s lecture. So, why not you go google his name as well, if you please. OK..!?
First you say the PM jumped the gun with no material evidence and wanted to fool people when he concluded MH 370 ended on the Indian Ocean based on Immarsat’s findings, and yet you want the PM to start antagonizing the ones cooperating with the search and investigation with no proof whatsoever.
Try to think clearly what you’re asking the PM to do here. You don’t think he made a reasonable conclusion? You doubt Immarsat’s data and calculations? Fine, then you can try your hand at finding MH 370 using whatever experts or institutions you trust. Have any in mind? Has the side you picked helped Malaysia much in this crisis? I assume you picked a side.
Why don’t you ask the Chinese side to do what you want, instead of accusing our own government and PM? Surely you don’t think, if there’s a hidden conspiracy, our PM would be in the loop.
Yes.., Najib did jump the gun in making his so-called ‘conclusive’ findings & announcement. But never did I ever say that he wanted to fool others by doing so. Kindly do not put your words in my remarks. Understand..!?
Perhaps Najib will only fool himself should no wreckage of Flight MH370 is ever found in the Indian Ocean. Unless of course somebody else puts it there (moved from somewhere else) to be purposely found later on..!
Like I have said earlier, Najib should have more patience. He should not relent due to pressure from others, especially the public and the victims’ family members. Crisis management require great contemplation, patience and fortitude.
Did I ever say that I doubted Inmarsat’s data & calculations..? In any investigation (criminal especially) data & calculations is not material evidence in any court of law. Understand again..!?
And.., why should I try my hands in finding MH370..? It is NOT my job in doing so. Ada paham lagi..!?
The Chinese are free to do what they want.., and that goes without saying. However, as a national carrier, it is MAS as well as the Malaysian government’s job to find the lost vessel. Betul Tak..!?
Finally, where have I accused our own government or the PM of anything other than suggesting that he is not revealing the real situation as it is, as well as making hasty announcement. I suspect he is under duress or coercion. Who knows…, what say you then..?
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You must understand that:-
“… Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind…”
— George Orwell
Thanks for the Orwell quote. I will banner it.
“Yes.., like it or not, the placard that says, ‘..MALIESIA..’ is so true. The whole world can clearly see that Malaysia (i.e. the govt.) is lying about something on the MH370 issue.
Again.., the placard ”..Don’t Hide, Don’t Lie..” as well as the “..Real Eyes Realise (or can see or detect) Real Lies..” says it all.
I have long supported the BN government and shall continue to support the able & capable BN government for years to come.., God Willing. But, I simply cannot support BLATANT lies. Again.., the operative word here is ‘BLATANT’..! When one tend to lie, one would have to continue to concoct more lies to cover-up the initial and so on & so on, until all those lies blows-up into one’s own face,., sooner or later.
For how long can Najib & Co. concoct more lies & spin to cover-up the crime by some evil hand. Did Najib not say that – “MAS Flight 370 had been deliberately diverted from its planned flight path..” as per this URL:-”
You really know your political language. From accusing people of “concoct more lies and spin” to becoming ” not revealing the real situation as it is, as well as making hasty announcement.” in a few posts.
It’s murder alright.
Character assassination.
People who say that M’sia lie, please enlighten me – what are the lies? Not knowing is not the same as lying. Malaysia says after the sign off to DCA, we DON’T KNOW where the plane went. Which part is the lie?
TUDM didn’t intercept because it was captured on their radar as a non-threat, but until they studied the radar data further, they couldn’t conclude it was MH370. Would you rather they jump the gun and announce before they confirmed?
The media speculated on mechanical problems, hijacking, pilot error etc. The govt said they are looking at four areas and can only come to a conclusion if and when the black box is found. So who is lying?
MAS gave the passenger and cargo manifest to the investigators. MAS is not involved in the actual investigation, particularly if there’s a criminal element. It is for the investigators to release the information to the public not MAS. And have you ever seen the police or any enforcement agency release any sensitive information while the investigation is on-going?
I can go on, seriously. But let me put it this way. The govt bashers/detractors have all bought into the Hollywood propaganda that every inch of the earth is covered by satellite every minute of the day. They have also believed that freedom means they have a right to every information right now. They have also bought into the fantasy that if we had called NCIS on the morning of March 8, MH370 would have been found within the hour.
Exactly.., not knowing is not the same as lying.
However, apparently Najib knows that Flight MH370 had ‘ended’ or crashed somewhere in the Indian Ocean. He had announced this news, meaning that he knows what had really happened. By his announcement Najib is certain MH370 had crashed in the Indian Ocean. What prompted Najib to make such a conclusion? All that we know is that he relied merely for some plausible assumption by Inmarsat to arrive at his conclusion.
The question remains is that does Najib know for a fact that Flight MH370 had crashed in the Indian Ocean..? Where is the material evidence to support the crash. If he says he is still looking for it then it means that he DOES NOT KNOW for a fact that Flight MH370 had crashed in the Indian Ocean.
Thus.., if Najib says he knows that Flight MH370 had crashed in the Indian Ocean when he has no material evidence whatsoever, then he is lying or at best he merely guessing (in believing what others told him) what had really happened. The fact is that Najib DOES NOT know what had REALLY happened, but he says to the whole world that he KNOWS that flight had ‘ended’ or crashed somewhere in the Indian Ocean, without providing any material evidence material. That is tantamount to lying. As a statesman and national leader, that is not a good move.
It is like George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfield & Tony Blair telling the whole world that Saddam Hussin had Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) but they could not prove it, but yet they rallied and they (Coalition of the Willing) had invaded and ravaged Iraq and subsequently murdered Saddam Hussin. Those damn Neo-Cons rascals did not really know Saddam had WMDs, but all the same they still lied to the whole world. Understand..!?
And.., what do you mean TUDM didn’t intercept when the TUDM chief himself had later on retracted of any tracking for Flight MH370 over Malaysian airspace after it had supposedly did a dog-leg turn having gone off the radar over the South China Sea. Who are you trying to kid here.., huh..?
Anyway.., when one is seeking for the truth, then there is no need for government bashing and such like. Seek and speak the truth despite the bitter odds and challenge. The truth has its own way of revealing itself, should we seek for it.
However ironically, apparently ‘balls-carrying’ individuals like yourself seem to get so perturbed and rattled when your ‘rice-bowl’ could be at stake in your line of work it seems.., huh..!? Remember, the beneficient of God Almighty (rezeki) is not determined God’s creatures. Why worry too much.., man..!
Thus, instead of lying or providing conjecture and despite the unrelenting pressure (from the relatives of the passengers & crew of Flight MH370) it would have been better if Najib should have said that he still does not know the real outcome of Flight MH370 to this day. In this regard, Najib should realise what he has gotten himself into.
Najib said it ended not crashed.
Komen panjang gila, satu habuk pun tak de.
Agreed. Dajjal dia cengkam dua2. Tak dapat bang non… ah gor pun dia sapu! Najib kena cepat sedaq… jangan dok seronok sangat dengan gula-gula dajjal. Aku pun hairan pasaipa yang dia pun hantaq anak jantan dia kat lubuk freemason.
Hairan bin ajaib bila kepala TUDM buat U turn.
Hairan bin ajaib bila dalam nak cari kapal terbang kat bahagian utara dan bahagian selatan, si Hisham bunga boleh tolak mentah2 kemungkinan Diego Garcia.
Dah tu tanya balik rakyat, kalau Amerika terlibat masakan depa nak hantaq Poseidon bagai.
Hisham2, hang sober ke idak ni?
Najib did not say crash. He said ended. Also when do you think would be good time to announce that we cannot find MH370, after a month, a year. Najib did not just make an assumption but the conclusion was mathematically/scientifically based (i thot everyone believes in science). And the decision to announce I felt was probably one of the most difficult of his administration, but it had to be done so that people can begin the process of moving on.
I would suggest you stick with official news sources, AMSA and MAS and MOT media briefings and not from all the foreign news outlets cause they tend to add to the facts (re: the TUDM statements, the transcripts)
And lastly, you don’t know me and yet you presume to call me “balls-carrying …” . Let me clarify. I have never worked in the public sector. In fact I’m not even fully employed as I am enjoying my semi retirement. And I support the BN govt mainly because I still believe in them and the alternative really sucks, but I do not support blindly.
In the event of MH370 loss I strongly believe that the govt has done its utmost in a very difficult situation, and Najib announcing that the journey ended in the Indian Ocean was to enable the families to start filing for inheritances, insurances, compensation, to enable the govt to continue with the search, to inform that since it remained a mystery fault cannot be assigned to a single party.
Gaya awak ni sebiji macam Anwar, takde ape ape tapi syiok sendiri declare Putrajaya is theirs to excite his followers?
You want Najib to give that kind of news ke?
Gaya awak pulak sebijik macam si Wan Azizah jugak kut..?
Tahniahlah kalau dia dah menang DUN Kajang.., kan..!?
Ari tu kalo jijah senak perut cirit birit tak sempat kasi nama sebagai calon Pakatan kat Kajang, terpaksa ganti calonkan cucu dia yang baru tumbuh gigi pon Cina situ akan vote Pakatan.
Ms H. To update you and all read http://www.tremeritus.com/2014/04/09/mp-blasts-msia-asean-for-handling-of-MH370-crisis/