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Referendum, anyone?

In my previous posting, I reproduced excerpts from an FMT article penned by CT Ali. 

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/opinion/2014/04/15/putting-bn-under-the-spotlight/

I believe CT Ali deserves a reply, and I’m doing the honours below.

CT Ali’s questions / observations / statements in blue italics. My responses in normal black print.

  • Is it not time that the Chinese in Malaysia claim, at the very least, their right of abode in Malaysia?”

The Chinese choose not to live in Malay housing areas because they feel that the property value of the house or its resale price is not good where the majority of the residents are Malay. They feel that a Chinese neighbourhood makes for better investment in real estate.

  • “The right to live and work in Malaysia without restriction? And their rights as citizens to be treated equally by our government?”

There is merit in this claim by CT Ali about restrictions on jobs opportunities for Chinese in the public sector as well as a glass ceiling. Personally I too feel that some government policies disadvantage and discriminate against the Chinese.

But then again, how many Chinese are keen on working as counter staff – say in the National Registration Department – and get berated and be subject to false accusations by difficult and demanding uber Malaysians like the Madame Speaker?

An interesting item to note statistically though: A Chinese applicant stands a better chance of being called for an interview to become a police inspector (because so few apply). Entry requirements for joining the police force are also eased for the Chinese.

  • “And yet for as long as I can remember of the Chinese in Malaysia, they have been second to the Malays in everything, even in name.”

True, the Chinese invariably come second in the race box. However, if the Chinese were 55% of the population and the Malays 25%, then the order can be reversed … bisa diatur.

  • “Now if the plight of the Chinese was like the plight of MH370, when all that is done to manage their plight is open to the scrutiny of the public, nay to the world via their media inquisition of Umno leaders – what will the world media ask our Umno-led government leaders about their treatment of the Chinese?”

What will the world media ask Umno leaders about their treatment of the Chinese? Hmmm. Can we time travel back to 1957?

Question for Umno leaders in 1957: Did the Malays whom your party represented agree to the giving of one million Merdeka citizenships to aliens who refused to learn to speak the national language, disdained the local culture, were hostile to Islam and sympathized with the communists who wanted to abolish the monarchy?

  • “Will they go back to May 13 of 1969 and pick through the facts and the fallacies of what had happened then? Did Lim Kit Siang really do what Umno said he did? Who started the fracas that led to all the killings? The people or the politicians?”

Yes, why not? Let’s have an RCI on the role of Kit Siang and the DAP.

  • “Were the police and the army acting under orders from their political masters when they did what they did – whether it was killing non-Malays or saving them from the Malay mob?”

Najib Razak should step up to the plate and vigorously defend his father’s reputation. The Dapster-evangelistas have treated Tun Razak’s good name as maliciously as they’re doing Rosmah’s.

  • “And will not the world media hold Umno responsible for the massive migration of Chinese out of Malaysia to other parts of the world at a time when Malaysia has most need for their skills and business acumen?”

Shall we ask Hannah Yeoh in what way Umno was responsible for her attempted emigration to Tasmania, Australia? What skills and business acumen does Hannah possess that Malaysia is most in need of?

Has Hannah created a business that produces useful and beneficial goods, or has she established a bottling factory for Holy Water that makes its drinkers hate in copious amounts?

  • “And will not the foreign media question these Umno leaders on the costs to Malaysia of these Chinese migration in terms of opportunities lost if Malaysia had been able to keep these people in Malaysia to assist in the development of the nation?”

“Opportunities lost” (??) … uh, okay.

Fewer of these people in Malaysia and the entertainment sector (nightclubs, bars and massage centres) will be stunted. The gambling industry will be crippled — illegal betting syndicates will not be operating and the casinos will not be sitting atop Genting Highlands. We would have fewer pimps, gengSTARs and Ah Longs.

Bribery will be curtailed and corruption contained.

China sits at No.80 in the 2013 Corruption Perceptions Index.

Malaysia is at No.53.

Malaysia which is three-quarters non-Chinese is far less corrupt than China which is full of Chinese.

  • “Will they not question Umno as to the wisdom of implementing an education system that actively isolate the Chinese young from any opportunity of getting a decent education in Malaysia and instead force them to seek education overseas? … Imagine how they will squirm and squeal as the world media question them on these irresponsible attempts at preventing the children of these Chinese from having the same education as what was available for the children of the Malays!”

Sure. What’s stopping the Chinese children from enjoying Sekolah Kebangsaan just like Malay children?

  • “The Chinese can no longer turn the other cheek when threatened with rivers of blood in Chow Kit or acquiesce when asked to migrate.”

“Turning the other cheek” sounds like sheeple meek and mild. This is usually a popular description that the DAP evangelistas are fond of bestowing upon themselves — “peaceful”, “peace-loving”, loving the peace.

Why in the world would anyone want to threaten “rivers of blood” on such a meek, mild, peaceful and loving group of people? There seems to be a miscommunication here.

  • “It is time that the Chinese gather the critical mass within themselves that will make them into a force to be reckoned with not only by this BN government but also by any government that is in Putrajaya.”

As readers of this blog have already commented, e.g. Amir Yahya @ 2014/04/15 at 7:04 pm, the Chinese had critical-massed on 5 May 2013, convulsed into a force of tsunamic proportions and hit Umno with their best shot.

Umno was stirred and shaken but still left standing.

Now imagine if Umno were to shed its Paling Tidak Apa attitude…

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63 thoughts on “Referendum, anyone?

  1. Boss HA… the manner in which you have answered all those questions, hmmmm… really mesmerises me. Out of 11, I could only get close to 3. Nothing that I can add to make the rest(of the anwers) better… And that’s why I prefer to remain on the sideline… Just had this urge to thank you(for making my day today)…

  2. There is a saying – If the monk does not like the temple, he can leave the temple.

  3. 1. right to abode.
    yes the chinese have every right anywhere even to the extent of
    creating all chinese housing enclaves

    2, The right to live and work in Malaysia without restriction?
    what about other races rights, where if your chinese you get a
    better salary then others.. where is the rights of other race
    equality when chinesee speaker is the number 1 criteria for job
    advertised

    3 yeah right seconded in everything, yet the chinese conquer the
    construction business, transport business, plantation business,
    manufacturing, even the bloody durian market they control.

    4 chinese migration and to assist in the development of the nation?”
    $$$ that all about the chinese nothing more nothing less live eat
    sleep and pray for money. they will go where the money is.
    nothing to do about malaysia

    5 Now if the plight of the Chinese was like the plight of MH370
    what about the plight of the 80 odd other nationalities which
    unjustly were not born chinese, well as always it will always be
    about the chinese and only chinese, who gives a damm about the
    dll people

    6. “Will they go back to May 13 of 1969 and pick through the facts..
    what about the facts of 1945 what the chinese did to the malays
    in johor, negeri sembilan and other places.

    7. Will they not question Umno as to the wisdom of implementing an
    education system that actively isolate the Chinese.
    what about the education system created by the chinese for their
    own benefit SRJK that is truly racist when only chinese teachers
    are only allowed to teach there, if your malay, a qualified teacher
    and speak mandarin your not qualifed. why ? becoz your malay
    what about the top 400 hundred stpm chinese students
    demanding places in the medical faculty. anything less is not
    acceptable

    8 The Chinese can no longer turn the other cheek //It is time that //
    the Chinese gather the critical mass.
    and like the opportunist the chinese are they will use whatever
    means possible christians, muslims, indians, iban bidayuh, orang
    asli to succeed in their chinese agenda.

    and if rivers off blood are to flow the chinese are goin to turn
    and say “who us chinese? we did not start this!”

    1. re: “the facts of 1945 what the chinese did to the malays in johor, negeri sembilan and other places”

      What are the Chinese capable of doing to other people? See their treatment of Indonesian maids.

      What are the Chinese capable of doing even to fellow Chinese? Look at what they did to Chew Mei Fun duirng the Kajang by-election campaign. Their fitnah of her scrapes the bottom of the barrel and is at par with the Sichuan uniformed officials who smashed the skull of the captive dog with a shovel.

      Go to any interactive media where the Dapsters proliferate. See the kind of names that they hurl at the MCA.

  4. CT Ali’s questions macam oghang tengah mamai baru bangun tidoq..

    Selama ini perkataan ‘BODOH’ tak lekang dek mulut whenever a Malay pass them by, only to realise by looking at the mirror that yang sebenarnya ‘BODOH’ adalah mereka sendiri.

    Baru faham apa erti korupsi.. selama ini baru sedar yang duk menghulur tu mereka sendiri, yang memberi dan penerima dua kali lima corrupted.

    Itu sempua dan timbang kati dah obselete – dah kehabisan modal cara nak menipu kerana Melayu pon dah mula jinak dalam dunia perniagaan, so loss of business monopoly opportunity they translate as being deprived of opportunity.

    Education, they let their kids spend their early formative years learning how to read and write their so claimed “kononnya bahasa ibonda” characters (minimum at least kena duk hafal 1000). Koreans dulu2 pon duk godek2 guna Chinese characters however introduced their own simple 28 letters hangul alphabets to ensure every korean can read and write to ease communication among themselves and uplift their standard of living….. Bila anak dah besaq baru duk terkial2 nak faham and belajar bahasa Kebangsaan or the 2nd languange, they cry foul saying they are being discriminated..

    I am living in a Chinese area… among a community of Chinese whose once very LOUD voices are slowly being silenced as they watch their once “Bodoh” slowing turning cerdik.

    1. Yeah true. I sent my son to montessori kindergarten and purposely taken Mandarin subject instead of Pendidikan Agama. And guess what, the teacher hates my son very much as she doesn’t bother to give attention to him. Mereka tak mahu Melayu pandai. Terang lagi bersuluh ;)

      The teacher forgot that my wife could speak Cantonese ha ha. We could understand her conversation to other teachers and my son’s classmates

  5. Ms H. Did Ali notice that the most successful political Malaysian monopoly is created by the leading Chinese lights of the DAP ? It is legal, tax-free, monopolistic on eternal human dissatisfaction, Chinese, profitable above board, 3rd gen can also play etc. This concept is unique even those dynastic folks in the UMNO is way behind this brilliant Chinese concept. This is what I call the Creation of Money Without Money – honestly and legally. Cheers !

    1. re: “monopolistic on eternal human dissatisfaction, Chinese”

      Good point. This is where the Chinese differ from the Malays who believe in bersyukur dan bertaqwa.

      1. Re Good point. This is where the Chinese differ from the Malays who believe in bersyukur dan bertaqwa.

        I don’t know if you notice this but if you were to visit welfare homes, most of the elderly people living there are Chinese.

        The parents brought up the children and there they are, living their supposed golden years with other elderly people in welfare homes.

        The bersyukur dan bertaqwa part, the Chinese don’t know about these 2 enduring human qualities or what ?

        1. re: “if you were to visit welfare homes, most of the elderly people living there are Chinese”

          Their children have migrated to Tasmania.

      2. Ms H. The Chinese in Malaysia are agnostic and aethists. A good religion is good for them. MONEY MONEY MONEY.

        1. But the agnostic and atheistic Denmark, New Zealand, Finland, Sweden and Norway where between a quarter and one-third of the population does not believe in God, and only 1/4-1/3 of them do (with the remainder falling in between these two categories) are the Top 5 least corrupt countries in the world.

          These 5 countries also consistently top the Peace Index (no war, little civil strive, least crime, greatest social cohesion, etc) as well as the topping the Standard of Living index (best welfare and healthcare, literacy, gender equality, longevity and retirement care, etc).

          1. Ms H. I had A in Scriptures. I stayed amongst Jews and Christians for years. 60 years ago I already noticed the Europeans were not practising the Christian religion which is closely identified with them. What do you expect of this folks in Subang Way singing Christmas carols in hot humid Subang ? They can only be FAKES.

  6. Ms H. I was stupid. Now I understand why it pays to be in the Opposition for 48 years. There’s money in damn thar Opposition hills !

  7. I hate to hate the Chinese bcoz, for a good part of my life I always had Chinese as my best friends. Even though having long lost contact, I still have fond thoughts of them. But over time, except for some, perhaps, 10% of them, a figure oft-quoted by Helen, I find them to be the most despicable & diabolical creatures, especially the dapster species. They are rude, crude, arrogant and selfish, and that is putting it mildly.

    Let me cite some examples:-

    1. I once worked in 2 Chinese dominated public companies [way back.in the 80’s] There, I was recruited only to fill up the 30% bumi officer quota. I was not given any work at all, I repeat, AT ALL. They condemn others for being discriminatory when they are the bigger discriminators. I was bored to death then but thanks to that, I quit for further studies and managed to get a professional qualification;

    2. In the 2nd company, Federal Flour Mills Bhd, a Robert Kuok company, I discovered the extreme kurang ajar side of the Chinese. They had a “special” word for all the company drivers/chauffeurs i.e Amat or Ahmad which signified “Malays”. One day I overheard one of them said; “Chong, please call any of the Amat up here”. For gardeners or cleaners they had a Hindu/Indian name which I have forgotten what it was. See how they degraded other people?

    3. I once lived in a 90% Chinese occupied apartment with a swimming pool. Like typical kids, my then small kid daughters were fond of the pool but being Muslims, they would not wear the bikinis. They would put on long pants and t-shirts. But each time, within 15 minutes, they would be hauled up by the security guards for being “improperly dressed”. When I happened to be around I would protest and each time the guards would reply; “ada orang komplen”. The complainants were, of course, the hawkish Chinese watching from higher floors of the apartment blocks. They had not the slightest tolerance and respect for others’ sensitivities. Were they protesting on hygienic reasons? Bullshit! My kids did not wear overnight cloths. But them, they jumped straight out of beds into the pool without washing their mouths, c…nts and c…cks, eyes full of wax and teeth not brushed. They even peed inside the pool.

    4. Now I live in a 90% Chinese occupied housing estate. The security guards were initially [and inevitably] were Malays and Indians. The almost 100% Chinese constituted security committee treated those guards without the slightest respect, worse than garbage. Punishing them with salary deduction etc, for the slightest mistakes. They set super strict rules. Batch after batch of the guards were dismissed. But one night, I think between mid-night & dawn, one batch of security guards, not able to take the insults any longer, absconded en masse. The next day and until a new security firm was appointed, the committee members had to take turn to man the guard house. Padan muka. For the past couple of years, we have only Nepalese guards.

    5. I strongly believe, the failure of the NEP to achieve 30% bumi equity ownership was in large part caused by sabotage by the Chinese. They would not allow their monopolies to be broken. They had killed off many Malay (and Indian) businesses by denying them supplies. Then, when affirmative actions are continued to this day, they are the ones who complain the loudest when they are the biggest reason for it.

    6. Well, the list is still long….

    To the deaf, dumb and blind CT Ali, Malaysia will be a better place to live without those Chinese. Please leave. Good riddance!

    1. En Idris, do u think u have to go tru all these nightmares if the granting of citizenships were controlled during Merdeka time?

      Anyway threre’s no point crying ..IF.. now. Nasi sudah jadi bubur.

      Have u heard in other countries, the rakyat urinating on the leaders graves?

      U see now how umno got kencing by mca… most probabaly PAS will be kena kencing by DAP too.

      1. re: “U see now how umno got kencing by mca…”

        Tidak boleh dilepaskan dengan begitu sahaja perbuatan mengkhianat dan tikam belakang itu ketika PRU13. Jika Umno selaku tunjang BN tidak mengambil tindakan, maka sah Umno sebuah parti yang dayus.

    2. En Idris, saya dah tak percaya lagi pd bangsa Cina, walaupun ada lagi kenalan cina yg sangat baik ; yg baik ini tidak banyak membantu dalam hidup bermasyarakat.tahap benci saya pd mereka ini sgt meluap luap ; saya tanamkan sikap waspada pd anak anak saya bila berkawan dan berurusan dgn mereka.

    3. Idris MD Isa.

      As I said over and over again, the Chinese in Malaysia have a weak political leadership unlike the UMNO. The behaviour and faillings of the Chinese in Malaysia as alleged and I can also confirm worst instances in which they did to their own kind, maybe attributed to this void in our Malaysian society.

      I know of one authentic case where a person enriched his penniless wife, son-in-law, brother and nephew who conspired to cheat him after he made them very rich. Money money money has become their soul.

    1. XH. The Chinese do it to their own kind too when it comes to MONEY MONEY MONEY. Go and check how many of those RM2 incorporated tax free churches are headed by convicted or unconvicted felons. You will be surprised !

  8. We should have a referendum on :

    1. Should we initiate a One School System for All

    2 Should a citizenship test be made compulsory for descendants of immigrants whose ancestors were here before 1948 ?

    I m all for One School for All, and I m also all for a compulsory citizenship test.

    1. I support No. 1.

      But not No. 2. Nanti opposition complain tak dapat supply pensel untuk ambil citizenship test tu. :)

      1. Survivor.

        No. 1 is OK. there is a solution for this. Only the Chinese numbskull political leaders on both sides of the divide since 1949 never brought it up. MONEY MONEY MONEY.

        No.2. The United Nations Charter for Human Rights FORBIDS.

  9. Re: Question for Umno leaders in 1957: Did the Malays whom your party represented agree to the giving of one million Merdeka citizenships to aliens who refused to learn to speak the national language, disdained the local culture, were hostile to Islam and sympathized with the communists who wanted to abolish the monarchy?

    …I am confident it was a decision made by umno leaders only. As long as they got kuasa, they would’nt care anything else. Further more the colonialist will hand over the baton to their anak didik only.

  10. Nah ulang tayang.
    You should see this documentary about Stateless Malaysians
    [YouTube]

    Looks like the orang puteh in England pun tak suka Cina Penang… reason tak mau belajar English…. ring a bell. (Tak mau belajar BM)

    Look at the comments:
    David Goldsmith 8 months ago

    Can’t speak English after being there for years. They wish to settle but also to turn the place into another China. They should be returned to Malaysia. It is a great country Malaysia is.

    SantomPh 1 year ago

    in Australia they’d just stick em on a boat and watch it sink….

    Even the mat salleh pun tak mau depa. The problem with this people is that you want to stay in a country (UK, Malaysia etc) you do not want to adapt. You want the country to change instead. You want Chinese schools, Chinese TV, Chinese food but you HATE China.

    That is the Chinese attitude.

    1. Their attitude is what makes this kind of people of people susceptible to the Jerusubang cult.

      The cult panders to them by fostering the delusion that it is the country that must UBAH to suit their (the cult movement’s) demands and not that they (the cult members) should adapt themselves to Malaysian reality.

      1. And this comment from the YouTube

        “David Goldsmith 6 months ago

        The Chinese belong in their own environment as do all others. I have lived in Malaysia as an identifiable Jew albeit of US citizenship. I have found the Malay and the Indians there (perhaps in some respects alike) to be sincere, hospitable, accommodating, tolerant, peaceful and very intelligent. (Malays are Muslims for those who do not know).

        The Chinese in Malaysia are little if at all like the Chinese in China. The Malaysian Chinese are awful, crude, pushy, rude and purse money at all costs.”

        Yahudi US pun tak suka Cina Penang.

        1. re: “The Malaysian Chinese are awful, crude, pushy, rude and pursue money at all costs.”

          :-O

          David Goldsmith must have rented in Jerusubang when he was in Malaysia. He probably met Madam Speaker (Her Ladyship of the 300pc Pay Hike).

          1. Ms H. Here is the disgraceful behaviou of a female Chinese and her Chinese companion. On 14 March 2014, 8.10 am., I forgot to retrieve my parking ticket from the auto-pay machine and returned to retrieve it. I saw the woman running off with my car-park ticket and they sped off before I could stop them. Their car was parked next to mine. I paid RM1.50 for the ticket.

            Invariably, Chinese of all sorts of description including well-dressed Singaporean ladies would jump the queue in front of me and I noticed that long hair types of young Chinese women would just elbowed their way around car-parks. This sort of behaviour does not speak well of the Chinese who claimed to be civilised.

        2. Mulan. From my experience with my own Malaysian Chinese of a life-time, I agree what have been alleged. When I met with an accident on the road, the Indian wiould be the first to stop, followed by the Malay. But ALL the Chinese slowed down their cars and have a closer look at me. Later, I discovered that those Chinese below the age of 40 have been de-tribalised and urbanised. They only look Chinese but behaved exactly as alleged in these columns. Sad.

          1. re: “Chinese below the age of 40 have been de-tribalised and urbanised”

            They become Jerusubangites. The J-folks take pride in denial and if you disagree with them, you’re a “RACIST!!”

            1. Ms H. Unfortunately, the shallow new so called Christians will not last once the MONEY MONEY MONEY runs out.

      2. But you accuse the so-called ‘Jerusubang’ group of being Anglophiles.

        I do recall that you support the existence of National-type schools.

        Care to explain this cognitive dissonance on your part?

        1. Pls show me where I accused the Jerusubangites of being Anglophiles.

          Yes, I support the existence of SRJK(C)s.

      3. Big-headedness does not serve the interests of the soul; better it is to live with big-heartedness. A craving appetite does not make a healthy person; better it is to seek for wholesome nourishment. Narrow-mindedness leads you into bewilderment; wiser it is to strive for right-mindedness. You shall not escape the anxiety of existence even if the world conforms to your desires.

    2. David Goldsmith again: They have no rights. They had rights which they threw away. There should be no exceptions or the law will have no legal or moral force. These are opportunists who sought to dominate the nation that gave their ancestors refuge and them a great way of life. They will seek to do the same thing in Britain. A plague be on their houses.

      ‘These are opportunists who sought to dominate the nation that gave their ancestors refuge and them a great way of life.’

      Bloody hell…this Daud Tukangemas fella has to be a Malay(sian)!

  11. http://www.anwaraidc.com/?p=46102

    “Kita (PAS) tidak ada perjanjian dengan DAP dan PKR mengatakan kita tidak boleh laksana hudud,” katanya lagi.

    He knows that the Umno MPs will back Pas. The reason Umno MPs will back him, and a considerable number from PBB is because this is one opportunity to tell the Chinese that if push comes to shove, Muslims will unite.

  12. http://www.anwaraidc.com/?p=46097

    “Persatuan Bible Malaysia (BSM) akan memindahkan ibupejabatnya daripada Petaling Jaya, Selangor ke Kuala Lumpur kerana hilang keyakinan terhadap keupayaan kerajaan negeri melindungi hak penganut Kristian.”

    This is puzzling. Why move to KL ? There is another location. Subang Jaya a.k.a Jerusubang. Why not move to Jerusubang ? Hannah tak bagi kah ?

  13. (1) “The Chinese choose not to live in Malay housing areas because they feel that the property value of the house or its resale price is not good where the majority of the residents are Malay. They feel that a Chinese neighbourhood makes for better investment in real estate.”

    Or it could be potential conflict with dog ownership, cooking and consumption of non halal food and drink, religious practices, and more.

    Shah Alam is becoming more mixed since its origins as an “all-Malay” city.

    (2) “But then again, how many Chinese are keen on working as counter staff – say in the National Registration Department – and get berated and be subject to false accusations by difficult and demanding uber Malaysians like the Madame Speaker?

    An interesting item to note statistically though: A Chinese applicant stands a better chance of being called for an interview to become a police inspector (because so few apply). Entry requirements for joining the police force are also eased for the Chinese.”

    With regard to this second and third paragraph, we should also ask what caused the decline in the numbers of Chinese and Indians working in the government services post-Merdeka? The answer can perhaps be found in the first paragraph.

    (3) “Question for Umno leaders in 1957: Did the Malays whom your party represented agree to the giving of one million Merdeka citizenships to aliens who refused to learn to speak the national language, disdained the local culture, were hostile to Islam and sympathized with the communists who wanted to abolish the monarchy?”

    Yet, why did Umno work together with the MCA and MIC to form the Alliance during the years of Merdeka?

    (4) “Yes, why not? Let’s have an RCI on the role of Kit Siang and the DAP.”

    Agreed. The urban legend of Lim Kit Siang urinating on the flagpole has been hawked by certain quarters.

    (5) “Najib Razak should step up to the plate and vigorously defend his father’s reputation. The Dapster-evangelistas have treated Tun Razak’s good name as maliciously as they’re doing Rosmah’s.”

    The biggest critics of Rosmah have been the pro-Opposition Malays. Not to be outdone, the other faction in Umno has also jumped on the opportunity to criticise Rosmah and her habits.

    (6) “Shall we ask Hannah Yeoh in what way Umno was responsible for her attempted emigration to Tasmania, Australia? What skills and business acumen does Hannah possess that Malaysia is most in need of?
    Has Hannah created a business that produces useful and beneficial goods, or has she established a bottling factory for Holy Water that makes its drinkers hate in copious amounts?”

    Interesting. CT Ali talks about a community of millions and you talk about one person instead.

    Can you explain TalentCorp?

    (7) “Fewer of these people in Malaysia and the entertainment sector (nightclubs, bars and massage centres) will be stunted. The gambling industry will be crippled — illegal betting syndicates will not be operating and the casinos will not be sitting atop Genting Highlands. We would have fewer pimps, gengSTARs and Ah Longs.”

    There would have been no tin mines, fewer rubber plantations, fewer oil palm plantations, no retail industries, no manufacturing industries, no construction industries, no professional workforce, and the list goes on…

    We would be on par with Myanmar, Cambodia, or Laos.

    (8) “Bribery will be curtailed and corruption contained.
    China sits at No.80 in the 2013 Corruption Perceptions Index.
    Malaysia is at No.53.
    Malaysia which is three-quarters non-Chinese is far less corrupt than China which is full of Chinese.”

    http://www.transparency.org/country

    You forgot Taiwan, another Chinese country.

    CPI (2013)
    Malaysia: 53/177
    Taiwan: 36/177

    (9) “Sure. What’s stopping the Chinese children from enjoying Sekolah Kebangsaan just like Malay children?”

    What caused enrolment of Chinese and Indians in National Schools to drop? I recall reading journal articles where these schools were the prime choice for non Malay parents post-Merdeka up until the Seventies.

    (10) “Why in the world would anyone want to threaten “rivers of blood” on such a meek, mild, peaceful and loving group of people? There seems to be a miscommunication here.”

    Certain quarters do not like it when the minority do not know their place and press for more rights. The same reaction was also spurted in response to the Hindraf awakening, and recent issues involving the Indian community.

    (11) “As readers of this blog have already commented, e.g. Amir Yahya @ 2014/04/15 at 7:04 pm, the Chinese had critical-massed on 5 May 2013, convulsed into a force of tsunamic proportions and hit Umno with their best shot.”

    No one group can work alone. Even Umno realises it depends upon the support of East Malaysia, especially those Christians in Sabah and Sarawak to maintain its power, and to an extent, the support of the Chinese and Indians if it wishes to maintain or restore its strength in urban areas.

    1. (1) re: “Or it could be potential conflict with dog ownership, cooking and consumption of non halal food and drink, religious practices, and more.”

      Okay, fair enough. But then again, even the Jews (c.f. the David Goldsmith comment linked by Mulan) think Malaysian Chinese are money grubbers.

      re: “Shah Alam is becoming more mixed since its origins as an ‘all-Malay’ city.”

      Overall, yes. But you have to break down section by section.

      (2) re: “The answer can perhaps be found in the first paragraph.”

      Overly demanding and difficult customers/clients, if it’s their unlucky day, will be recipient of the KFC i_City treatment, http://mynewshub.my/2012/02/09/kerana-ayam-goreng-kfc-jadi-isu-perkauman/#.U04sQqKAH0s

      (3) re: “Yet, why did Umno work together with the MCA and MIC to form the Alliance during the years of Merdeka?”

      The same reasons DAP is working with PAS.

      (4) re: “Agreed. The urban legend of Lim Kit Siang urinating on the flagpole has been hawked by certain quarters.”

      Here’s one thing most people aren’t aware. The ethnic composition of the police in 1969 was more balanced.

      re: “The biggest critics of Rosmah have been the pro-Opposition Malays. Not to be outdone, the other faction in Umno has also jumped on the opportunity to criticise Rosmah and her habits.”

      It’s true that Rosmah is unpopular with oppo Malays, establishment Malays and even fence-sitting Malays.

      However critics of Rosmah from the DAP camp can be identified among the YBs: Teresa Kok’s CNY video lampooning her, Tony Pua’s (producer) ‘Ubah’ Gangnam Style video also lampooning her, Teo Nie Ching bringing up the subject of Rosmah’s handbags in Parliament, David Nga Kor Ming’s Madagascar cartoon tweet of ‘her’ as a hippo, Superman Hew Kuan Yau’s death wish on her during her badminton game …

      I don’t recall any Umno or PAS politician/YB criticizing her. PKR maybe …

      (6) “Interesting. CT Ali talks about a community of millions and you talk about one person instead.”

      Hannah Yeoh is not one individual. She is the CEO of the Holy Water industry. CEOs can be influential for the impact they have on lifestyles, like Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg and the late Steve Jobs.

      re: “Can you explain TalentCorp?”

      Perhaps Najib Razak should. Many other folks are interested to know too.

      re: “There would have been no tin mines, fewer rubber plantations, fewer oil palm plantations, no retail industries, no manufacturing industries, no construction industries, no professional workforce, and the list goes on…”

      In what way did the profits from the tin mines and the big orang putih rubber plantations benefit the Malays?

      re: “We would be on par with Myanmar, Cambodia, or Laos.”

      I’ll bet that the Malays would rather the country be on par with Myanmar, Cambodia or Laos but remain ethnically homogenous rather than have big industry tin mines and rubber plantations and one million Merdeka citizenships. Your measure of Wealth and Progress is not necessarily the same as theirs.

      (8) re: “You forgot Taiwan, another Chinese country.”

      Taiwan is not recognized as a sovereign country but the 19th province of China.

      (9) “I recall reading journal articles where these schools were the prime choice for non Malay parents post-Merdeka up until the Seventies.”

      National school will regain its glory days soon. There should be no fear of Islamization since the DAP evangelistas have successfully tutored the Chinese to accept the Syariah.

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      (10) re: “Certain quarters do not like it when the minority do not know their place and press for more rights.”

      The sheeple are too meek, too mild and too peaceful-loving to be lording it above their station and pressing for more rights. Sheeple are placid animals who know that their place is in the pasture.

      (11) re: “Even Umno realises it depends upon the support of East Malaysia, especially those Christians in Sabah and Sarawak to maintain its power, and to an extent, the support of the Chinese and Indians if it wishes to maintain or restore its strength in urban areas.”

      There is no need for the support of Chinese and Indians if Umno can get PAS on board. It’s possible for Umno to get PAS on board by offering them hudud and the Islamic state.

      1. (1) “Okay, fair enough. But then again, even the Jews (c.f. the David Goldsmith comment linked by Mulan) think Malaysian Chinese are money grubbers.”

        Can the comment by David Goldsmith be taken to represent what Jews think as a whole? I have heard comments by Westerners stereotyping the Malays with terms such as ‘insecure’, ‘racist’, ‘religious bigots’ and ‘massive sense of entitlement’.

        (2) “Overall, yes. But you have to break down section by section.”

        It still would require Chinese and Indian families to move into majority Malay housing areas.

        (5) “I don’t recall any Umno or PAS politician/YB criticizing her. PKR maybe …”

        Mahfuz Omar has criticised Rosmah on various issues. Hanipa Maidin has joined the criticism regarding use of government aircraft:

        http://www.fz.com/content/rosmah-centre-jet-query

        The sentiment against Rosmah, comparisons of Rosmah to Imelda, and anti-Rosmah pictures, were the work of PAS and PKR supporters. It did not help that she went on luxurious sprees.

        (6) “She is the CEO of the Holy Water industry. CEOs can be influential for the impact they have on lifestyles, like Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg and the late Steve Jobs.”

        Show proof that she manages a firm selling bottled holy water. As far as I know, she is a state Speaker, not the captain of a corporation.

        (7) “In what way did the profits from the tin mines and the big orang putih rubber plantations benefit the Malays?”

        The tin and rubber industry provided tax revenue for the government’s development programs.

        These industries also created jobs and markets, perhaps not directly, but in complementary industries. The growth of Ipoh and Kuala Lumpur created demand for goods, agriculture, and services.

        “re: “We would be on par with Myanmar, Cambodia, or Laos.”
        I’ll bet that the Malays would rather the country be on par with Myanmar, Cambodia or Laos but remain ethnically homogenous rather than have big industry tin mines and rubber plantations and one million Merdeka citizenships. Your measure of Wealth and Progress is not necessarily the same as theirs.”

        Certainly not the half of the who supported the Opposition. And even many in Umno will be hesitant to exchange their career, their house, car, bank account, electricity, ASN account, healthcare, education, quality of life, etc. for a parallel dimension where there are no Chinese or Indian citizens, but no healthcare, no jobs, no opportunity (except going abroad to work and die in Arabian construction sites), and widespread poverty.

        Even homogeneity will not guarantee a lack of issues. In the absence of a scapegoat, political extremists will find scapegoats among their own. That is the case for many civil disputes. Poverty, is also the main causes of crisis.

        One thing for certain. Singapore, Sabah, and Sarawak would not have joined Malaysia in this scenario.

        (8) “Taiwan is not recognized as a sovereign country but the 19th province of China.”

        It is a ‘de facto’ country. Taiwan passport holders (bearing the ‘Republic of China’ and sun logo) can enter many countries and Taiwan trades a lot with other countries.

        (11) “There is no need for the support of Chinese and Indians if Umno can get PAS on board. It’s possible for Umno to get PAS on board by offering them hudud and the Islamic state.”

        At the cost of alienating its East Malaysian allies. This would be a bad move for Umno.

        1. (1) re: “Can the comment by David Goldsmith be taken to represent what Jews think as a whole?”

          Drop the ‘s’ then. Sentence becomes: “Even the Jew, David, thinks …”

          (2) re: “It still would require Chinese and Indian families to move into majority Malay housing areas.”

          Check out Kota Kemuning.

          (5) re: “Mahfuz Omar has criticised Rosmah on various issues. Hanipa Maidin has joined the criticism regarding use of government aircraft”

          Using gomen jet is one thing, mocking her personal choice of handbags is another.

          (6) “Show proof that she manages a firm selling bottled holy water. As far as I know, she is a state Speaker, not the captain of a corporation.”

          Hahaha. Her product has got a customer base of almost 100,000. The free advertising by J-Star helps with promotion.

          (7) “The growth of Ipoh and Kuala Lumpur created demand for goods, agriculture, and services.”

          Ipoh and Kuala Lumpur are Chinese-majority and Chinese-dominated ‘towns’ (then), cities now. The growth of Ipoh and KL enriched the Chinese. The oft-quoted figures provided by Jomo and Gomez: In 1970, the Malay share of capital ownership in limited companies was 2.4% compared to Chinese 27.0% and foreign (British & other Europeans) 63.4%.

          In 1969, the businesses in KL were torched because they belonged to Chinese shopkeepers, and the only major Malay housing enclave in the heart of the city was Kg Baru.

          re: “a parallel dimension where there are no Chinese or Indian citizens, but no healthcare, no jobs, no opportunity (except going abroad to work and die in Arabian construction sites), and widespread poverty.”

          WOW! You’re saying that without the Chinese & Indians here, there would be “no healthcare, no jobs, no opportunity” and the Malays would be languishing in “widespread poverty” :D

          re: “Poverty, is also the main causes of crisis.”

          In the 1998 May 13th Jakarta riots, the economic imbalance made the Indonesian Chinese scapegoats. Therefore the oppo Chinese in Malaysian should not be so blinkered as to think that race does not matter and only the economy (issues like GST, petrol prices, etc) does.

          re: “One thing for certain. Singapore, Sabah, and Sarawak would not have joined Malaysia in this scenario.”

          Since you are so certain, you should share with us your sources of info having such certitude. Links pls.

          (8) re: “It is a ‘de facto’ country. Taiwan passport holders (bearing the ‘Republic of China’ and sun logo) …”

          China with its 1.3 BILLION population is the country in the world MOST representative of the Chinese race. I hope that the Malays don’t think that we here (a mere 7.5 million Malaysian Chinese) represent what Chinese-ness is. Kesian “Cina” the entire race if they are to be judged by 7.5 million Malaysians with the Jerusubang attitude.

          (11) “At the cost of alienating its East Malaysian allies. This would be a bad move for Umno.”

          Umno has not irredeemably alienated the Sabahans & Sarawakians. They have the 10-point solution. It is S’gor that is beginning too fracture first from disgruntlement. Heh-heh-heh, from a sector that you least expect, http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/opinion/2014/04/16/the-water-war-rakyat-fighting-back/

          1. (1) “Drop the ‘s’ then. Sentence becomes: “Even the Jew, David, thinks …””

            It is still in the same vein as those Westerners’ stereotypical comments on the Malays.

            (2) “Using gomen jet is one thing, mocking her personal choice of handbags is another.”

            I suppose the Malay critics of Rosmah calling her ‘Imelda’, ‘boros’, has nothing to do with her expensive tastes in handbags, jewelry, and luxury items?

            (8) “You’re saying that without the Chinese & Indians here, there would be “no healthcare, no jobs, no opportunity” and the Malays would be languishing in “widespread poverty” :D”

            You were claiming that the Malays’ would rather be on par with Myanmar, Cambodia or Laos in exchange for racial homogeneity. Without the contribution of the Indians and Chinese, Malaya would not have been able to develop as it is.

            “re: “One thing for certain. Singapore, Sabah, and Sarawak would not have joined Malaysia in this scenario.”

            Since you are so certain, you should share with us your sources of info having such certitude. Links pls.”

            Sabah and Sarawak and Singapore: large communities of non-Malays and non-Muslims

            Since you bet that the Malays would rather have backwardness in exchange for homogeneity, in this alternate scenario, they would be unlikely to agree to a union with these three states.

            By the way, can you back up your source when you made that claim the Malays would rather be on par with Cambodia, Myanmar or Laos in exchange for racial homogeneity? Statistics, interviews with every Malay in the nation, etc.

            (9) “China with its 1.3 BILLION population is the country in the world MOST representative of the Chinese race.”

            You were saying that Taiwan is the 19th province of China. It is however, effectively a ‘de facto’ nation separate from the PRC.

            And yes, Taiwan counts as a counterpoint to your comment to CT Ali.

            (11) “Umno has not irredeemably alienated the Sabahans & Sarawakians. They have the 10-point solution.”

            And they should keep to that solution, although they do not seem to be doing it.

            “It is S’gor that is beginning too fracture first from disgruntlement. Heh-heh-heh, from a sector that you least expect,”

            This coming from a person who has been trying to sow discord between Khairy and the members, and between Umno and MCA (KOMA movement). Ironic.

          2. “MOST representative…”

            i think indonesia n india is a better comparison for china if the criteria is race, as for religion, not surprisingly the least corrupt are mostly so called christian countries. christianity is therefore the least corrupt religion.

            1. re: “not surprisingly the least corrupt are mostly so called christian countries”

              The Top Five in 2013 CPI are 1. Denmark, 2. New Zealand, 3. Finland, 4. Sweden and 5. Norway. S’pore ties at No.5.

              Let’s look at your “Christian country” claim.

              In Sweden, 34% of the population do NOT believe that God exists. Only 18% of Swedes believe there is a God.

              29% of Norwegians do not believe there is a God.

              24% of Danes and 22% of Finns don’t believe in God either, according to the Eurobarometer Survey 2010, http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/ebs/ebs_341_en.pdf

              Church attendance in Western Europe is low and plummeting. The whites are leaving Christianity in droves. Churches are empty and in UK, the buildings are being turned into pubs.

              That’s why the religion has to find new converts in East Asia (S.Korea, China) and in SE Asia (S’pore, Indonesia, Jerusubang).

              “When asked to name the values which matter most to them, Europeans place
              — human rights first (47%),
              — followed by peace (44%),
              — respect for human life (41%),
              — democracy (29%),
              — individual freedom (23%),
              — the rule of law (22%),
              — equality (19%),
              — solidarity (15%),
              — tolerance (15%)
              — self-fulfilment (10%)
              — respect for other cultures (8%), and
              — religion (6%)”

              Click to access eb74_publ_en.pdf

              (Fieldwork done in Nov 2010 and report published published in Feb 2011)

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              Click to access ebs_341_en.pdf

              (Fieldwork done in Jan-Feb 2010 and report published published in Oct 2010)

              The survey question asked of Europeans: “Which of these statements come closest to your beliefs.”

              (a) “You believe there is a God”

              1. Denmark (28%)
              2. New Zealand —
              3. Finland (33%)
              4. Sweden (18%)
              5. Norway (22%)

              (a) “You don’t believe there is any sort of a spirit, God or life force”

              1. Denmark (24%)
              2. New Zealand —
              3. Finland (22%)
              4. Sweden (34%)
              5. Norway (29%)

              Let’s take NZ separately.

              “Approximately one third of the population indicate they don’t have a religion.” This is from their New Zealand govt website, http://www.dol.govt.nz/immigration/knowledgebase/item/2952

              While the numbers of people in NZ affiliating with Christianity in general had decreased, affiliation with Evangelical, Born Again and Fundamentalist religions increased by 25.6 percent.

              So the evangelical trend appears to be worldwide.

              1. Ms H. Good lesson for juveniles ! White New Zealanders are bigoted and do not like the Chinese.

                1. Where in the world is there any connection between white New Zealanders and the Chinese?

                    1. Ms H. Not too long ago a white New Zealand judge said he could not differentiate one Chinaman from another. You can check this on the Web.

            2. Western European, North American, and Australian ‘Christian’ countries tend to be less corrupt.

              In South America, Latin America, Africa, and to a lesser extent, Eastern Europe and Russia, corruption is rampant.

        2. “… for a parallel dimension where there are no Chinese or Indian citizens, but no healthcare, no jobs, no opportunity… “

          I think you should take a look at anaksihamid’s blog to understand how the Malays felt during and after British colonial period- the notion that the British has somewhat disrupted the demographics of Malaya (by bringing in Chinese and Indian migrants) and figure out how those history fit into today’s context or problem.

          1. Lousy.Engineer. I have read some of anaksihamid’s writings. I find some to be insightful and an interesting biograph of life in the Sixties. Yet, I notice the irony of her commenting about the ‘immigrant races’ in Malaya while she herself has/is resident in the United Kingdom (and reaping the benefits of its NHS).

    2. AC-DC. We would go a long long way if we re-vamp the school system beginning with the vernaculary schools. There are answers to this problem. No big deal. This became bad when the MCA/DAP leaders could not come up with answers to create a win-win situation.

      The Swiss Confederation which is made up of the Germans, French, Itallians and Romansch (Roman legions deserted Rome and holed up in the high Alps, 2000 years ago), still have their folks saying snide remarks behind each others backs. And it was founded 800 years ago !

      See our beloved Malaysia has come a long long way ! We have not come to blows yet !

  14. I know for a fact that the SK acquires the Islamic traits like reciting prayers during assembly and stuffs like that because the majority who attend SK are Muslims. This has been going on for many years.

    This is probably the main point of contention for many Chinese and to a certain extent, the Indian community, although we have more of the Indians attending SK.

    The reverse is true also for SJKT and SJKC. However, the SKs in East Malaysia do not develop the Islamic culture like the ones in West Malaysia because many of them are Christians.

    This is so natural, unless we get all of them together in a single stream education. Things may be different, whether we get more racial tension, or the pupils become more tolerant with each other. But, knowing kids, it’s much easier for them to look beyond skin color.

  15. Ms H. The media reported that President Obama will not be meeting the leader of the Opposition.

    Politics is a business of opportunity and risks. In the DAP with a Singapore bias and its dull colourless and obstinate leadership there lie the gems of wisdom of being sustainable as well as profitable – very Chinese.

    On the other, from 1982 if not 1972 till now, the kaleidoscopic range of activities of the de facto leader of the Opposition have now resulted in a zero-sum game of very many years which included the lost 3 EASY WAYS of gaining power and money at Putrajaya. THE WHOLE WORLD LOVES A WINNER.

    Even the lady who used to have a small suite of rooms in a building before the BERSIH-BERSIHS has now gone on to better things like representing big shots in trouble with the Government.

    The bugbear DAP, the very rich PKR and the pious PAS are now facinig the reallity of competent and capable leaderships. Whoever were responsible to try to turn our beloved into a Malaysian Spring now pays for this folly by being a copycat.

    ALL THE ARAB SPRINGS FAILED WITH A GREAT LOSS OF LIVES OF INNOCENT MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

    Not only that, the attempts at replacing the old dictatorships with Western democracy failed miserably because all these Arab States were the creation of Britain and France after the fall of the Ottoman Empire in 1919 and had never experienced what Western democracy is like. The think tank who thought this out in Washington DC had the work cut out for them with the bungling in Syria again resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands and the the displacement of 2 million Syrians FOR NO REASON AT ALL.

    The the icing on the cake of failure must be the Ukraine caper. The Ukranians were encouraged to revolt but no further support was forthcoming when the West found themselves face to face with the Russian bear. This is a good lesson for all not to be manipuated by others.

    Quo Vadis, Opposition ? Vote BN. Charity begins at home.

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