Hudud more scary because potong tangan & potong kepala are barbaric.
So shallow kah! Barbaric is when one makes accusations without studying the facts. Find the truth?
Religion & rational can not together. More religious means more irrational. Suicide bomber & potong tangan result from irrational belief.
There is nothing rational about Pas Islam and Pas Hudud and also there is no rational rational about your thinking of Islam.
Either you’re an adherent of rock-rock Christian with no historical roots or you’re just a follower of liberal any religion without a sound ‘wahyu’ religion.
Either way your opinions is not acceptable to me at least! Admit it that you are just an religious ignoramus who contradict just for the sake of contradicting.
Jews, Christian & Islam religions from same root Jews belief. Christian & Islam religions both belief Jesus (Isa) had ruhul qudus. The differ just the interpretation.
Certain hudud law copy Bible’s law such as stoning & kill apostate. Implement hudud aslo meaning implement Bible’s law.
re: “Implement hudud aslo meaning implement Bible’s law”
So there is no reason for the DAP evangelistas to object to hudud.
Potong tangan pun Bible juga ada. Love hudud = love Bible.
SERUPA TAPI TAK SAMA. Macam Brahmin dengan Non-Brahmin. both are Indians, but the later is considered as less than human according to report.
India’s “Untouchables” Face Violence, Discrimination
Hillary Mayell – for National Geographic News
June 2, 2003
More than 160 million people in India are considered “Untouchable”—people tainted by their birth into a caste system that deems them impure, less than human.
“I am a Dalit,” Dr Sonkar said. “In that case, wash your glass when you are done,” the shop owner said. “He didn’t want to touch whatever I had touched. I made it impure. I am an untouchable,” says Dr Sonkar.
The Indian should be more receptive towards hudud I think, for on annual basis Malaysians at large have witnessed the ‘barbaric’ and “self-masochist’ kavadi bearing ritual. Here are some examples;
The kavadi carriers do not appear to suffer any permanent bodily injury from the carrying out of their vow.
A chopped-off hand (on the other hand) cannot grow back.
Let’s just say kavadi is some sort of preview or acclimatization process.
1. ‘God resides in cow dung,’ says Kesari Gumat, as he walks through his laboratory where researchers mix bovine excreta with medicinal herbs and monitor beakers of simmering cow urine.
2. India’s ‘prostitutes of God’
An ancient tradition which sees girls dedicated to a lifetime of ‘religious prostitution’ has become a big business on the streets of southern India. Sarah Harris, who spent two years uncovering the practice, explains what it means to be a devadasi in the twenty-first century.
Years before the world heard of Osama bin Laden or al-Qaeda, the Tigers were pioneering a new method of guerrilla warfare in their fight against Sri Lanka’s majority Sinhalese for a tiny separate state in the north of the small Indian Ocean island. The first Tiger killed himself attacking the Sri Lankan army in 1987. Hundreds followed, and when they signed a cease-fire with the Sri Lankan government in February 2002, the Tigers accounted for around a third of all suicide attacks in the world. A Western diplomat based in the Sri Lankan capital of Colombo describes the Tigers as “the most successful terrorist organization in the world.”
NEW DELHI: One woman dies every hour due to dowry related reasons on an average in the country, which has seen a steady rise in such cases between 2007 and 2011, according to official data.
National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB) figures state that 8,233 dowry deaths were reported in 2012 from various states. The statistics work out to one death per hour.
The number of deaths under this category of crime against women were 8,618 in 2011 but the overall conviction rate was 35.8 per cent, slightly above the 32 per cent conviction rate recorded in the latest data for 2012.
Mind you, my friend said after he potong, his wife scream louder than before.
LOL.
LOL, pity those who don’t, HOW RUGI!
The Benefits of Male Circumcision.
‘1 Many older men, who have bladder or prostate gland problems, also develop difficulties with their foreskins due to their surgeon’s handling, cleaning, and using instruments. Some of these patients will need circumcising. Afterwards it is often astonishing to find some who have never ever seen their glans (knob) exposed before!
2 Some older men develop cancer of the penis – about 1 in 1000 – fairly rare, but tragic if you or your son are in that small statistic. Infant circumcision gives almost 100% protection, and young adult circumcision also gives a large degree of protection.
3 Cancer of the cervix in women is due to the Human Papilloma Virus. It thrives under and on the foreskin from where it can be transmitted during intercourse. An article in the British Medical Journal in April 2002 suggested that at least 20% of cancer of the cervix would be avoided if all men were circumcised. Surely that alone makes it worth doing?
4 Protection against HIV and AIDS. Another British Medical Journal article in May 2000 suggested that circumcised men are 8 times less likely to contract the HIV virus. (It is very important here to say that the risk is still far too high and that condoms and safe sex must be used – this applies also to preventing cancer of the cervix in women who have several partners.)
A BBC television programme in November 2000 showed two Ugandan tribes across the valley from one another. One practised circumcision and had very little AIDS, whereas, it was common in the other tribe, who then also started circumcising. This programme showed how the infection thrived in the lining of the foreskin, making it much easier to pass on.
5 As with HIV, so some protection exists against other sexually transmitted infections. Accordingly, if a condom splits or comes off, there is some protection for the couple. However, the only safe sex is to stick to one partner or abstain.
6 Lots of men, and their partners, prefer the appearance of their penis after circumcision, It is odour-free, it feels cleaner, and they enjoy better sex. Awareness of a good body image is a very important factor in building self confidence.
7 Balanitis is an unpleasant, often recurring, inflammation of the glans. It is quite common and can be prevented by circumcision.
8 Urinary tract infections sometimes occur in babies and can be quite serious. Circumcision in infancy makes it 10 times less likely.’
India’s Supreme Court creates official third sex for eunuchs and transgenders
After two thousand years of persecution, India’s two million eunuchs to be formally recognised as third sex and listed as ‘backward’ caste entitled to reserved government jobs and university places
The hand of non-muslim thieves will NOT be cut.
Coz hudud will affect Muslims only.
Ordinary people live like usual.
So not so scary la.
It’s not fair that a Chinese thief is punished with 6 months jail while a Malay thief is punished potong tangan.
Since the Chinese are screaming for EQUALITY all the time, then they should be given the equality that they keep asking for.
Zack commented @ 2014/04/28 at 12:43 pm that “a fair law is color blind and religion blind“.
The DAP evangelistas are “colour blind”. They are also “religion blind” and always insisting that they are the Christian Brothers and Sisters of the Malays whose god ‘Allah’ they share.
Hudud must be shared with the DAP Chinese.
Tak adil di mata manusia tapi adil di mata Tuhan, Manusia jadi Tuhan.
curi RM50, dipotong tangan. curi RM5 juta juga dipotong tangan. Adil ke?
re: “curi RM5 juta juga dipotong tangan”
Tu bukan mencuri. Kalu jumlahnya RM5j, it would be called creative accounting via asset transfer to a [slush] fund in order to park disposable capital for the facilitation of better return on investment in the futures market.
Mencuri is if you kidnap a goat.
Dear Aunty Helen,
Good idea. I agree with you. If they want equality, give them equality :)
re:Tolong fikir masak-masak sebelum anda memangkah jawapan.
I don’t have to think hard because I know the answer right away :D
I doubt anyone will lose his hand when hudud is implemented.
All a thief need to do is to declare he has repented or he steal coz he has hungry mouth to feed. We have so many lawyers to help him bullshit.
Scary untuk pencuri sahaja. By the way … kalau tak mencuri tak boleh ke?
i think UMNO-BN government will allow non-Muslim to use kalimah Allah in bible etc if non-Muslim can accept Hudud imposed on them too
Dalam hukum hakam agama Islam tiada istilah ‘trade of’ tentang isu-isu berkaitan syirik dan non-syariah compliance.
Ms H. It is very clear that the Singaporean Trojan Horse DAP supports HUDUD ISLAM.
can mr ED be more specific about ‘Singaporean Trojan Horse DAP’, who are they?
Mechanical Arm. The Singaporean Trojan Horse DAP has its origins in the Raffles College, Singapore days of the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew with his 15th failed Policies for Singapore. Even in those early days, the Chinese were on one side and the Malays on the other.
With the entry of Singapore into Malaysia in 1963, thereafter there was an audacious attempt by the PAP to wrest power from the UMNO in 1964 with the cheeky slogan, ‘Malaysia for Malaysians’. PAP failed and Singapore left Malaysia in 1965. The Singaporean Trojan Horse DAP was founded in 1966 by the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew as the Singaporeans were retreating, just like the Greeks at Troy.
The DAP preferred to be in the Opposition for over 48 years without doing anything for the Malays, Chinese or Indians. Why ?
It is the TPPA.
At the turn of the 21st Century, Singapore was hit by the DOT.com crash and Pax America’s ‘Globalization, Free Trade, Human Rights.’ The 7% GDP fizz of the 20th Century dropped to below 5% with 100,000 souls unemployed. The dysfunctional meritocrats (now disbanded) proposed 2 casino licences to fill in temporarily and the TPPA for the longer term to conquer and control Malaysia. The TPPA is a creation of the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew in 2006. It only garnered Brunei, Chile and New Zealand in 2006. Washington DC was not listening. However, after the October 2008 Crash, Washington DC was receptive.
Hence, with the OK from Washington DC in his pocket, in June 2009, the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew at 85 made his ill-advised Grand Tour of the Ulus to exhort his minions, digits, cohorts, spies, swallows, ducks, journalists (commonly used as spies by all nations), tycoons, embedded crypto Singaporeans in Malaysia’s very own Ministry dealing with the TPPA, etc.
Why ? WITH THE SIGNING OF THE TPPA BY MALAYSIA, IT IS THE DEATH KNELL FOR OUR BELOVED MALAYSIA AND THE MALAYS WHO EITHER BE LIKE THE RED INDIANS OF NORTH AMERICA OR DISPERSED IN A DIASPORA. There willl be no more MalaysIA WITHOUT THE MALAYS WHO WOULD ALSO LOSE THE ROYALTY, POLITICS, HISTORY, RELIGION, CULTURE ETC WHICH GOES WITH LEGACY AND HERITAGE.
HABIS FOR THE MALAYSIA AND THE MALAYS with the TPPA.
How ? The TPPA opens up the MALAYSIAN MART TO SINGAPORE THE MAIN BENEFICIARY OF THE TPPA. MALAYSIA HAS NOTHING TO OFFER OR TRADE OFF AT THE MOMENT. All the Malay controlled business will go to the wall. Revenue and trade accrue to Singapore.
IF MALAYSIA SIGNS THE TPPA NOW IT IS A DEATH WARRANT FOR MALAYSIA AND THE MALAYS WHO ARE IN THE MAJORITY AND THEIR ONLY HOMELAND !
Therefore it makes a lot of sense for the main purpose of the SINGAPOREAN TROJAN HORSE DAP TO USE ITS FRONT LINE TROOPS TO DISTRACT AND LULL THE HOSPITABLE AND FRIENDLY MALAYS INTO A STATE OF STUPOR whilst the digits of Singapore surreptitiously prepare the ground FOR MALAYSIA TO SIGN HER OWN DEATH WARRANT. MALAYSIA DIES, SINGAPORE LIVES.
THIS IS WHY THE BRILLIANT LEE KUAN YEW WITH HIS FAILED 15 POLICIES FOR SINGAPORE IS OBSESSED TO CONQUER AND CONTROL MALAYSIA BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY VIABLE AND ENDURING LEGACY HE CAN LEAVE TO THE SINGAPOREANS WHO WERE SCREWED BY HIM 15 TIMES.
NOW SINGAPORE HAS ONLY INDIFFERENT BRAIN CELLS. BUT OUR BELOVED MALAYSIA HAS HUMAN AND NATURAL RESOURCES. SHE HAS TO CONTROL MALAYSIA TO AVOID BEING A FAILED STATE. History dictates that whoever controls MALAYSIA CONTROLS SINGAPORE- Japanese Imperial Army conquered British Malaya first.
Vide Wikileaks- Singapore spies on Malaysia.
especially the New Straits Times, Page 8, March 8 2014. Colour pics with full description. Please read carefully and you will be enlightened WHY I HAVE SAID THAT KUALA LUMPUR IS NOW THE MOST ACTIVE ESPIONAGE CENTRE OF THE WORLD AND CONFIRMS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL THE TIME !
tq mr ED for your lengthy comments, as a rakyat I’m very much aware of the TPPA disadvantages to our country
setuju dengan mr ed…tolak tppa
See vdo, hukum sebat cara hudud… bandingkan dgn hukum sebat dipenjara Msia.
We need prison reform and should also strive to make the conditions of the Malaysian jail more humane. Look to how the most peaceful and stable countries — e.g. in Scandinavia plus Denmark – operate their penal system.
Hudud is different.
Once we open our door to religious law, we’ve placed ourselves at a point of no return because the mullahs will impose their will on everyone that religious law is God’s word. And nobody is allowed to question it, even though the implementation is carried out by men.
Look at Iran. The Iranians are finding it impossible to shake off the Ayatollahs. Is Iran better today than it was 50 years ago? Are her people living happier lives?
There are handfuls of countries that today have hudud. Which of them are models for other countries to emulate?
‘the mullahs’
We are not governed by the Mullahs.
‘Look at Iran.’
We are not Syiah to begin with!
‘There are handfuls of countries that today have hudud. Which of them are models for other countries to emulate?’
BRUNEI DARUSSALAM!!!
re: “We are not governed by the Mullahs.”
Some of the Malaysian leaders are mullahs. I consider the MP of Temerloh one. There are others in the current line-up.
re: “We are not Syiah to begin with!”
The Syiah have Islamic state. The Sunni have Islamic state too.
re: Brunei
Sultan Haji Hassanal Bolkiah Mu’izzaddin Waddaulah ibni Al-Marhum Sultan Haji Omar ‘Ali Saifuddien Sa’adul Khairi Waddien sudah dikurniakan hidayah.
Di negara kita, belum lagi.
‘Di negara kita, belum lagi.’
Sudah!
‘Menurut Prof Syed Muhammad Naquib, Islam mula diterima di Melaka pada tahun 812 hijrah (1409 Masihi). Ini menjadikan Melaka sebagai kesultanan Melayu Islam pertama di tanah air ini. Parameswara telah memeluk Islam dan menukar namanya kepada Sultan Iskandar Syah. Baginda diIslam kan oleh seorang pendakwah dari Jeddah yang bernama Sayyid Abd Aziz.
Ketahuilah bahawa, Kesultanan Melayu Melaka ini telah menjadikan Undang-Undang Islam sebagai undang-undang negara. Dan usaha untuk mengkanunkan undang-undang ini telah dimulakan sejak pemerintahan Sultan Muhammad Syah (1422 – 1444) dan dilengkapkan di dalam zaman Sultan Muzaffar Syah (1445 – 1450). Hukum kanun Melaka meliputi bidang yang luas termasuklah jenayah, mu’amalah, keluarga, acara, keterangan, adab alqadi dan undang-undang pentadbiran dan pemerintahan. Hukuman keseksaan pula berdasarkan kepada bentuk hudud, qisas, diat dan ta’zir.’
‘Menurut beberapa orang pengkaji barat, seperti William R. Roff dan Alfred R. Rubin bahawa Undang-undang Melaka itu pada dasarnya berasaskan Undang-undang Islam di samping Hukum Akal dan Hukum Adat. Pendapat mereka ini adalah menepati kenyataan yang terdapat di dalam qanun tersebut;
“Mengikut hukum Allah, pada hukum Allah, menurut dalil AlQuran dan menurut amar bil ma’ruf wa nahi munkar”
Berdasarkan kepada teks Hukum Qanun Melaka yang diselenggarakan oleh Dr Ph. S. Rankel mengandungi 27 fasal , Kitab Undang-undang Melaka dari Muzium British, mengandungi 44 fasal dan Undang-undang Melaka yang diselenggarakan oleh Liaw Yock Fang , mengandungi 44 fasal, setelah diteliti dan dikaji, dapatlah disimpulkan bahawa , Undang-undang Qanun Melaka ini adalah pada keseluruhannya berdasarkan Undang-undang Islam menurut Mazhab Syafie.
Walaupun tidak dinafikan bahawa di dalamnya terdapat juga unsur-unsur Undang-undang Adat Melayu, namun demikian ianya tidaklah menjejaskan sifat keIslamannya. Peruntukan-peruntukan undang-undang yang terdapat di dalamnya adalah menyeluruh dan luas, ianya mencakupi keseluruhan undang-undang Islam.’
‘kesultanan Melayu Islam’ is similar to Brunei’s Malay Islamic Monarchy!
‘Responding to a rare outbreak of dissent on social media, the sultan warned in February that anyone criticising the new laws could be punished under their provisions. Strengthening the governing principle of “Malay Islamic Monarchy”, he said, was a crucial “firewall” against globalisation, he said.’
“Look at Iran. The Iranians are finding it impossible to shake off the Ayatollahs. Is Iran better today than it was 50 years ago? Are her people living happier lives?”
Do you know why there are so many Iranians and Arab expats here esp KL? Because we are an extremely liberal Muslim country.
I have one Iranian girlfriend and she told me the freedom she has in KL. She loves to dress trendy (at times sexy) and loves to party. In iran with all her money she can’t enjoy it. She has to mind the p & qs.
By being more religious the second wave of expat will run away (i.e. the Arabs – the Chinese cabut because of the MH hoohaa and one tour agent in Penang told me so – it is very serious.). The next wave will be the kweilos.
Of course thanks to PR! With water and MH, let us look out what next big this the KooKoo Chiao UBAH bird will bring. (The bird is more lethal that they flying flesh hungry dinosaur bird.)
If you wish to see Malaysia ditimpa malapetaka, do implement the sectarian hudud of PAS. Why do I say that? Because under that law the weak and the poor will be maimed (& killed) and the rich and the powerful will get away scot free. When there are no justice, God will send his wrath. Malaysia will then be in fire like most of Muslim countries.
If you don’t believe me then check out Saudi Arabia. The maimed are the poor (& migrants) but the rich who stole millions get away with a mere fine and a few years jail term.
Even in Malaysia you can see already how PAS head honchos defended his powerful allies even when there are authentic video evidence of the wrong doing. I bet you if that video evidence is of a normal rakyat, they will not hesitate to use it to make an example of them.
I just wish that the Muslims in Malaysia will just wake up. PAS version of hudud is not God’s law. How can an unjust law be God’s law? If you believe that unjust law is God’s law, then you are basically saying that God is unjust. Then why on earth that you keep on reciting that God is all Merciful and Forgiving? Isn’t it an oxymoron?
To fellow Malaysians, you like to see your countrymen being maimed? Why are you so blood thirsty? Human without compassion is worse than animals. Don’t you believe in second chance? Is there second chance when you already lost the function of your hands? Is there second chance after you are dead when you committed adultery and apostasy?
re: “I just wish that the Muslims in Malaysia will just wake up.”
Why are you asking just the Muslims alone to wake up?
Many Chinese support hudud because the DAP has assured them that it does not affect non-Muslims.
Many Christians are looking forward to see the hand of Umno leaders and Umno members chopped off.
See sample comment below:
Dear Mr Kam and Mr John Lee
If there was Hudud tommorow, I wonder what would be given Anwar since the two sodomy charges. I dont what will happen to his famous birdbird.
And for Evangelism to convert to Christianity – so many Selangor Harvesters? They just shake to the music like Ke$Ha.
And certainly with hudud, where goes our GAB (sorry dont drink – so cant spell beer names) factory in Shah Alam.
And I look forward to no double parking in front of Magnum shops. And no more stupid Hua Hee Dai sexy Hockien karaoke singing contests (sponsored by TOTO) at Berjaya Times Square).
Mr Kam and John Lee Like us PEACE and LOVing Malaysians, we wellcome Hudud.
“If you don’t believe me then check out Saudi Arabia.”
I know, there’s this Filipino rape victim who was sentenced to be lashed 100 times in Saudi Arabia back in 2010; I don’t know what’s the fate of this poor woman now.
“The maimed are the poor…”
That’s how the world works, then and now. You have money, you have the freedom to do whatever s**t you want. If you’re poor, too bad, nobody will bat an eyelid to whatever s**t befall on you.
“I just wish that the Muslims in Malaysia will just wake up.”
Don’t hold your breath; who knows Malaysia could be the first model country in the world with successful hudud implementation, belum cuba belum tau; don’t be too quick to judge ok, read more about hudud itself, can or not?
A lot of people already rubbing both their palms with glee, waiting to see how corrupt politicians becoming OKU while I’m having a palm on my forehead instead. First Kelantan, then Perlis (they’re mulling it already), next Terengganu or Kedah, finally whole Malaysia come 2020 (although I’m sure this isn’t part of what TDM think of his 2020 country- only a mere 6 years away).
Anyway msH, wat happen to the utube link, it dosn’t directed to the hudud link?
My apology. The link has been corrected now.
Anu sudah potong. Tangan mau kasi potong. Kenapa suka potong potong.
Religion holds us back, us especially Melayus.
Yes, the kind of religion that has no place for logical thinking, nor that which ridicules the disciplines of self-realization (mengenal diri) and moral culture (tazkiyah an-nafs). Everything which classical Islam is not.
Shut up you rat!! I don’t know if you melayu or not. Tell the truth religion don’t hold melayu back actually. See how many in prison.
If hold us back maybe gambling and drinking toddy in large number.
maybe apostasy too.
It is a tragedy to say the least. Our country, with these crooks leading the way, is surely on the way to failed state status. By crooks, I mean people who brainwash people into thinking that their saviors will save the day, people who paddle holy water, promises of paradise and so on. Is it any wonder why the thinking people, whether Malay, Chinese or Indian, have made their choice, that is by seeking permanent residency abroad and these people are not coming back. I see this at work at my office, smart, bright, young, regardless of ethnicity, they have made their decision, they are voting with their feet.
The exodus will intensified if come the next GE, the holy water party and her allies are swept into power and the unthinking folks, the people who outsource their thinking to these crook parties i.e the holy water gangs who took to the streets yesterday, good luck to them. They better pray that the looting will not be that severe once the holy water party and her allies come into power because the way I see it, no one is going to be around to stop them. The could not care less party, you know who I m referring to, they are riding into the sunset with every missteps every day.
“Is it any wonder why the thinking people, whether Malay, Chinese or Indian, have made their choice, that is by seeking permanent residency abroad and these people are not coming back. “
Those who could afford to do so will continue to do so , in droves, yup, in droves- no kidding. I’m hearing it almost every other few months. I can understand that and won’t berate them as I know some of them. I just realized yesterday one of my high school mates is now a blood cancer researcher somewhere in Oceania, winning grants from a cancer foundation to boot; truly impressive.
re: “I can understand that and won’t berate them”
The hypocrisy of someone whose own Permanent Residence application in Tasmania was rejected having the nerve to tell young people, “Don’t change ur country, change ur govt!”
Yeah … Dapsters please stay back and vote DAP and put the evangelista carpetbaggers in power so that Madame Speaker can enjoy her RM50k take-home pay and perks. Her groupies are lobotomized sheeple who strangely enough think it is the BN folks who are “stoopid”.
“Dapsters please stay back and vote DAP and put the evangelista carpetbaggers in power “
They can always come back to vote and leave the country once they have voted- they don’t have to be here permanently ;-) That’s what happened in wu yue wu (05/05/2013- 五月五,换政府).
If they “change their country” like the BOCs who tore up their passports, then they can’t.
Change from a good govt to a lousy govt….. see Selangor……. perut sendiri ada jaga…. perut orang lain?
re: “perut sendiri ada jaga….”
Kenaikan gaji dia bagi kat diri sendiri 300 peratus.
Don’t be stupid like guan eng.
He proposed Christians to use Allah.
Allah says PRACTISE HUDUD.
Now he refused.
What is his hidden agenda than. ?
Perhaps MUJAHID CAN HELP TO EXPLAIN…
To be PM/DPM or whatever positions of political and econmoic power and to control Putrajaya and the country.
The same with the rest of the PR leaders. With great power comes more lusty power. Fullstop.
To the voters… who?
Q: What is the punishment in hudud for sodomy? Curious.
With great power comes the greater need to loot the nation.
In Iran the hudud punishment for sodomy is death. In Saudi the actual head gets chopped off.
Raja Petra Kamarudin said “Hence, Hudud is NOT a law for animals. It is a law for Judeo-Christians. But most Judeo-Christians have turned their backs on the Bible and have rejected these laws.”
Amen! In reality to be really good Christians, Christians should be subjected to hudud. The pagans have infiltrated Christianity and to go back then Christians should embrace and protect hudud.
Hence, hudud and syariah should cover non only Muslims but all Chriatians and Jews who stay in this country. Of course Buddhists Taoists, Hindu and others shoould be exempted. OKM, Madame as true believers should be subjected to hudud. Anwar included!
The answer is rather obvious. I’m not for but do not fear
Hudud. Given the traits demonstrated by the DAP elected members, I do not believe they can govern themselves let alone their other coalition partners and worse the nation. This I fear more.
Scary DAP!
An interesting article on OSTB that postulates that the translation of the cutting hands of thieves means for the thief to recompense the value of what was stolen with the work of his own hands.
Sounds more reasonable to me. ..
Ms H. IT IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD AND CRAZY FOR THE SINGAPOREAN TROJAN HORSE DAP TO BEHAVE NOW WITH THE MALAYS AS THOUGH THEY HAVE JUST ARRIVED FROM MARS AS TOURISTS. YOU AND ME HAVE FRATERNIZED WITH THE MALAYS AND INDIANS LONG LONG AGO. in my case, it was 1954 !
Helen Ang 
Hudud more scary because potong tangan & potong kepala are barbaric.
So shallow kah! Barbaric is when one makes accusations without studying the facts. Find the truth?
Religion & rational can not together. More religious means more irrational. Suicide bomber & potong tangan result from irrational belief.
There is nothing rational about Pas Islam and Pas Hudud and also there is no rational rational about your thinking of Islam.
Either you’re an adherent of rock-rock Christian with no historical roots or you’re just a follower of liberal any religion without a sound ‘wahyu’ religion.
Either way your opinions is not acceptable to me at least! Admit it that you are just an religious ignoramus who contradict just for the sake of contradicting.
Jews, Christian & Islam religions from same root Jews belief. Christian & Islam religions both belief Jesus (Isa) had ruhul qudus. The differ just the interpretation.
Certain hudud law copy Bible’s law such as stoning & kill apostate. Implement hudud aslo meaning implement Bible’s law.
re: “Implement hudud aslo meaning implement Bible’s law”
So there is no reason for the DAP evangelistas to object to hudud.
Potong tangan pun Bible juga ada. Love hudud = love Bible.
SERUPA TAPI TAK SAMA. Macam Brahmin dengan Non-Brahmin. both are Indians, but the later is considered as less than human according to report.
India’s “Untouchables” Face Violence, Discrimination
Hillary Mayell – for National Geographic News
June 2, 2003
More than 160 million people in India are considered “Untouchable”—people tainted by their birth into a caste system that deems them impure, less than human.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/06/0602_030602_untouchables.html
India’s Dalits still fighting untouchability
27 June 2012 Last updated at 04:53 GMT
“I am a Dalit,” Dr Sonkar said. “In that case, wash your glass when you are done,” the shop owner said. “He didn’t want to touch whatever I had touched. I made it impure. I am an untouchable,” says Dr Sonkar.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-18394914
P.S
That is the analogy.
The Indian should be more receptive towards hudud I think, for on annual basis Malaysians at large have witnessed the ‘barbaric’ and “self-masochist’ kavadi bearing ritual. Here are some examples;
https://www.google.com.my/search?q=kavadi&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=XUJjU7bMH8OKlQX0noDYDA&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=609
The kavadi carriers do not appear to suffer any permanent bodily injury from the carrying out of their vow.
A chopped-off hand (on the other hand) cannot grow back.
Let’s just say kavadi is some sort of preview or acclimatization process.
1. ‘God resides in cow dung,’ says Kesari Gumat, as he walks through his laboratory where researchers mix bovine excreta with medicinal herbs and monitor beakers of simmering cow urine.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/expatnews/7398029/Cow-dung-and-urine-healthy.html
2. India’s ‘prostitutes of God’
An ancient tradition which sees girls dedicated to a lifetime of ‘religious prostitution’ has become a big business on the streets of southern India. Sarah Harris, who spent two years uncovering the practice, explains what it means to be a devadasi in the twenty-first century.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/expatlife/8008562/Indias-prostitutes-of-God.html
How Sri Lanka’s Rebels Build a Suicide Bomber
Years before the world heard of Osama bin Laden or al-Qaeda, the Tigers were pioneering a new method of guerrilla warfare in their fight against Sri Lanka’s majority Sinhalese for a tiny separate state in the north of the small Indian Ocean island. The first Tiger killed himself attacking the Sri Lankan army in 1987. Hundreds followed, and when they signed a cease-fire with the Sri Lankan government in February 2002, the Tigers accounted for around a third of all suicide attacks in the world. A Western diplomat based in the Sri Lankan capital of Colombo describes the Tigers as “the most successful terrorist organization in the world.”
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1193862,00.html
Welcome back LOL!
Dowry deaths: One woman dies every hour
NEW DELHI: One woman dies every hour due to dowry related reasons on an average in the country, which has seen a steady rise in such cases between 2007 and 2011, according to official data.
National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB) figures state that 8,233 dowry deaths were reported in 2012 from various states. The statistics work out to one death per hour.
The number of deaths under this category of crime against women were 8,618 in 2011 but the overall conviction rate was 35.8 per cent, slightly above the 32 per cent conviction rate recorded in the latest data for 2012.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Dowry-deaths-One-woman-dies-every-hour/articleshow/22201659.cms
Mind you, my friend said after he potong, his wife scream louder than before.
LOL.
LOL, pity those who don’t, HOW RUGI!
The Benefits of Male Circumcision.
‘1 Many older men, who have bladder or prostate gland problems, also develop difficulties with their foreskins due to their surgeon’s handling, cleaning, and using instruments. Some of these patients will need circumcising. Afterwards it is often astonishing to find some who have never ever seen their glans (knob) exposed before!
2 Some older men develop cancer of the penis – about 1 in 1000 – fairly rare, but tragic if you or your son are in that small statistic. Infant circumcision gives almost 100% protection, and young adult circumcision also gives a large degree of protection.
3 Cancer of the cervix in women is due to the Human Papilloma Virus. It thrives under and on the foreskin from where it can be transmitted during intercourse. An article in the British Medical Journal in April 2002 suggested that at least 20% of cancer of the cervix would be avoided if all men were circumcised. Surely that alone makes it worth doing?
4 Protection against HIV and AIDS. Another British Medical Journal article in May 2000 suggested that circumcised men are 8 times less likely to contract the HIV virus. (It is very important here to say that the risk is still far too high and that condoms and safe sex must be used – this applies also to preventing cancer of the cervix in women who have several partners.)
A BBC television programme in November 2000 showed two Ugandan tribes across the valley from one another. One practised circumcision and had very little AIDS, whereas, it was common in the other tribe, who then also started circumcising. This programme showed how the infection thrived in the lining of the foreskin, making it much easier to pass on.
5 As with HIV, so some protection exists against other sexually transmitted infections. Accordingly, if a condom splits or comes off, there is some protection for the couple. However, the only safe sex is to stick to one partner or abstain.
6 Lots of men, and their partners, prefer the appearance of their penis after circumcision, It is odour-free, it feels cleaner, and they enjoy better sex. Awareness of a good body image is a very important factor in building self confidence.
7 Balanitis is an unpleasant, often recurring, inflammation of the glans. It is quite common and can be prevented by circumcision.
8 Urinary tract infections sometimes occur in babies and can be quite serious. Circumcision in infancy makes it 10 times less likely.’
http://www.circinfo.com/benefits/bmc.html
LOL really LOL
Re. Potong
India’s Supreme Court creates official third sex for eunuchs and transgenders
After two thousand years of persecution, India’s two million eunuchs to be formally recognised as third sex and listed as ‘backward’ caste entitled to reserved government jobs and university places
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/10767555/Indias-Supreme-Court-creates-official-third-sex-for-eunuchs-and-transgenders.html
The hand of non-muslim thieves will NOT be cut.
Coz hudud will affect Muslims only.
Ordinary people live like usual.
So not so scary la.
It’s not fair that a Chinese thief is punished with 6 months jail while a Malay thief is punished potong tangan.
Since the Chinese are screaming for EQUALITY all the time, then they should be given the equality that they keep asking for.
Zack commented @ 2014/04/28 at 12:43 pm that “a fair law is color blind and religion blind“.
The DAP evangelistas are “colour blind”. They are also “religion blind” and always insisting that they are the Christian Brothers and Sisters of the Malays whose god ‘Allah’ they share.
Hudud must be shared with the DAP Chinese.
Tak adil di mata manusia tapi adil di mata Tuhan, Manusia jadi Tuhan.
curi RM50, dipotong tangan. curi RM5 juta juga dipotong tangan. Adil ke?
re: “curi RM5 juta juga dipotong tangan”
Tu bukan mencuri. Kalu jumlahnya RM5j, it would be called creative accounting via asset transfer to a [slush] fund in order to park disposable capital for the facilitation of better return on investment in the futures market.
Mencuri is if you kidnap a goat.
Dear Aunty Helen,
Good idea. I agree with you. If they want equality, give them equality :)
re:Tolong fikir masak-masak sebelum anda memangkah jawapan.
I don’t have to think hard because I know the answer right away :D
I doubt anyone will lose his hand when hudud is implemented.
All a thief need to do is to declare he has repented or he steal coz he has hungry mouth to feed. We have so many lawyers to help him bullshit.
Scary untuk pencuri sahaja. By the way … kalau tak mencuri tak boleh ke?
i think UMNO-BN government will allow non-Muslim to use kalimah Allah in bible etc if non-Muslim can accept Hudud imposed on them too
Dalam hukum hakam agama Islam tiada istilah ‘trade of’ tentang isu-isu berkaitan syirik dan non-syariah compliance.
Ms H. It is very clear that the Singaporean Trojan Horse DAP supports HUDUD ISLAM.
can mr ED be more specific about ‘Singaporean Trojan Horse DAP’, who are they?
Mechanical Arm. The Singaporean Trojan Horse DAP has its origins in the Raffles College, Singapore days of the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew with his 15th failed Policies for Singapore. Even in those early days, the Chinese were on one side and the Malays on the other.
With the entry of Singapore into Malaysia in 1963, thereafter there was an audacious attempt by the PAP to wrest power from the UMNO in 1964 with the cheeky slogan, ‘Malaysia for Malaysians’. PAP failed and Singapore left Malaysia in 1965. The Singaporean Trojan Horse DAP was founded in 1966 by the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew as the Singaporeans were retreating, just like the Greeks at Troy.
The DAP preferred to be in the Opposition for over 48 years without doing anything for the Malays, Chinese or Indians. Why ?
It is the TPPA.
At the turn of the 21st Century, Singapore was hit by the DOT.com crash and Pax America’s ‘Globalization, Free Trade, Human Rights.’ The 7% GDP fizz of the 20th Century dropped to below 5% with 100,000 souls unemployed. The dysfunctional meritocrats (now disbanded) proposed 2 casino licences to fill in temporarily and the TPPA for the longer term to conquer and control Malaysia. The TPPA is a creation of the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew in 2006. It only garnered Brunei, Chile and New Zealand in 2006. Washington DC was not listening. However, after the October 2008 Crash, Washington DC was receptive.
Hence, with the OK from Washington DC in his pocket, in June 2009, the brilliant Lee Kuan Yew at 85 made his ill-advised Grand Tour of the Ulus to exhort his minions, digits, cohorts, spies, swallows, ducks, journalists (commonly used as spies by all nations), tycoons, embedded crypto Singaporeans in Malaysia’s very own Ministry dealing with the TPPA, etc.
Why ? WITH THE SIGNING OF THE TPPA BY MALAYSIA, IT IS THE DEATH KNELL FOR OUR BELOVED MALAYSIA AND THE MALAYS WHO EITHER BE LIKE THE RED INDIANS OF NORTH AMERICA OR DISPERSED IN A DIASPORA. There willl be no more MalaysIA WITHOUT THE MALAYS WHO WOULD ALSO LOSE THE ROYALTY, POLITICS, HISTORY, RELIGION, CULTURE ETC WHICH GOES WITH LEGACY AND HERITAGE.
HABIS FOR THE MALAYSIA AND THE MALAYS with the TPPA.
How ? The TPPA opens up the MALAYSIAN MART TO SINGAPORE THE MAIN BENEFICIARY OF THE TPPA. MALAYSIA HAS NOTHING TO OFFER OR TRADE OFF AT THE MOMENT. All the Malay controlled business will go to the wall. Revenue and trade accrue to Singapore.
IF MALAYSIA SIGNS THE TPPA NOW IT IS A DEATH WARRANT FOR MALAYSIA AND THE MALAYS WHO ARE IN THE MAJORITY AND THEIR ONLY HOMELAND !
Therefore it makes a lot of sense for the main purpose of the SINGAPOREAN TROJAN HORSE DAP TO USE ITS FRONT LINE TROOPS TO DISTRACT AND LULL THE HOSPITABLE AND FRIENDLY MALAYS INTO A STATE OF STUPOR whilst the digits of Singapore surreptitiously prepare the ground FOR MALAYSIA TO SIGN HER OWN DEATH WARRANT. MALAYSIA DIES, SINGAPORE LIVES.
THIS IS WHY THE BRILLIANT LEE KUAN YEW WITH HIS FAILED 15 POLICIES FOR SINGAPORE IS OBSESSED TO CONQUER AND CONTROL MALAYSIA BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY VIABLE AND ENDURING LEGACY HE CAN LEAVE TO THE SINGAPOREANS WHO WERE SCREWED BY HIM 15 TIMES.
NOW SINGAPORE HAS ONLY INDIFFERENT BRAIN CELLS. BUT OUR BELOVED MALAYSIA HAS HUMAN AND NATURAL RESOURCES. SHE HAS TO CONTROL MALAYSIA TO AVOID BEING A FAILED STATE. History dictates that whoever controls MALAYSIA CONTROLS SINGAPORE- Japanese Imperial Army conquered British Malaya first.
Vide Wikileaks- Singapore spies on Malaysia.
especially the New Straits Times, Page 8, March 8 2014. Colour pics with full description. Please read carefully and you will be enlightened WHY I HAVE SAID THAT KUALA LUMPUR IS NOW THE MOST ACTIVE ESPIONAGE CENTRE OF THE WORLD AND CONFIRMS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL THE TIME !
tq mr ED for your lengthy comments, as a rakyat I’m very much aware of the TPPA disadvantages to our country
setuju dengan mr ed…tolak tppa
See vdo, hukum sebat cara hudud… bandingkan dgn hukum sebat dipenjara Msia.
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Xynal,
We need prison reform and should also strive to make the conditions of the Malaysian jail more humane. Look to how the most peaceful and stable countries — e.g. in Scandinavia plus Denmark – operate their penal system.
Hudud is different.
Once we open our door to religious law, we’ve placed ourselves at a point of no return because the mullahs will impose their will on everyone that religious law is God’s word. And nobody is allowed to question it, even though the implementation is carried out by men.
Look at Iran. The Iranians are finding it impossible to shake off the Ayatollahs. Is Iran better today than it was 50 years ago? Are her people living happier lives?
There are handfuls of countries that today have hudud. Which of them are models for other countries to emulate?
‘the mullahs’
We are not governed by the Mullahs.
‘Look at Iran.’
We are not Syiah to begin with!
‘There are handfuls of countries that today have hudud. Which of them are models for other countries to emulate?’
BRUNEI DARUSSALAM!!!
re: “We are not governed by the Mullahs.”
Some of the Malaysian leaders are mullahs. I consider the MP of Temerloh one. There are others in the current line-up.
re: “We are not Syiah to begin with!”
The Syiah have Islamic state. The Sunni have Islamic state too.
re: Brunei
Sultan Haji Hassanal Bolkiah Mu’izzaddin Waddaulah ibni Al-Marhum Sultan Haji Omar ‘Ali Saifuddien Sa’adul Khairi Waddien sudah dikurniakan hidayah.
Di negara kita, belum lagi.
‘Di negara kita, belum lagi.’
Sudah!
‘Menurut Prof Syed Muhammad Naquib, Islam mula diterima di Melaka pada tahun 812 hijrah (1409 Masihi). Ini menjadikan Melaka sebagai kesultanan Melayu Islam pertama di tanah air ini. Parameswara telah memeluk Islam dan menukar namanya kepada Sultan Iskandar Syah. Baginda diIslam kan oleh seorang pendakwah dari Jeddah yang bernama Sayyid Abd Aziz.
Ketahuilah bahawa, Kesultanan Melayu Melaka ini telah menjadikan Undang-Undang Islam sebagai undang-undang negara. Dan usaha untuk mengkanunkan undang-undang ini telah dimulakan sejak pemerintahan Sultan Muhammad Syah (1422 – 1444) dan dilengkapkan di dalam zaman Sultan Muzaffar Syah (1445 – 1450). Hukum kanun Melaka meliputi bidang yang luas termasuklah jenayah, mu’amalah, keluarga, acara, keterangan, adab alqadi dan undang-undang pentadbiran dan pemerintahan. Hukuman keseksaan pula berdasarkan kepada bentuk hudud, qisas, diat dan ta’zir.’
http://detikislam.blogspot.com/2014/03/hukum-islam-telah-dijalankan-pada-zaman.html#
‘Menurut beberapa orang pengkaji barat, seperti William R. Roff dan Alfred R. Rubin bahawa Undang-undang Melaka itu pada dasarnya berasaskan Undang-undang Islam di samping Hukum Akal dan Hukum Adat. Pendapat mereka ini adalah menepati kenyataan yang terdapat di dalam qanun tersebut;
“Mengikut hukum Allah, pada hukum Allah, menurut dalil AlQuran dan menurut amar bil ma’ruf wa nahi munkar”
Berdasarkan kepada teks Hukum Qanun Melaka yang diselenggarakan oleh Dr Ph. S. Rankel mengandungi 27 fasal , Kitab Undang-undang Melaka dari Muzium British, mengandungi 44 fasal dan Undang-undang Melaka yang diselenggarakan oleh Liaw Yock Fang , mengandungi 44 fasal, setelah diteliti dan dikaji, dapatlah disimpulkan bahawa , Undang-undang Qanun Melaka ini adalah pada keseluruhannya berdasarkan Undang-undang Islam menurut Mazhab Syafie.
Walaupun tidak dinafikan bahawa di dalamnya terdapat juga unsur-unsur Undang-undang Adat Melayu, namun demikian ianya tidaklah menjejaskan sifat keIslamannya. Peruntukan-peruntukan undang-undang yang terdapat di dalamnya adalah menyeluruh dan luas, ianya mencakupi keseluruhan undang-undang Islam.’
http://www.carigold.com/portal/forums/archive/index.php/t-406258.html
‘kesultanan Melayu Islam’ is similar to Brunei’s Malay Islamic Monarchy!
‘Responding to a rare outbreak of dissent on social media, the sultan warned in February that anyone criticising the new laws could be punished under their provisions. Strengthening the governing principle of “Malay Islamic Monarchy”, he said, was a crucial “firewall” against globalisation, he said.’
http://www.malaysia-today.net/brunei-adopts-shariah-law-others-in-region-consider-it/
So Helen, please look no further.
Nik Aziz tu bukan mullah ka? or moolah kot?
“Look at Iran. The Iranians are finding it impossible to shake off the Ayatollahs. Is Iran better today than it was 50 years ago? Are her people living happier lives?”
Do you know why there are so many Iranians and Arab expats here esp KL? Because we are an extremely liberal Muslim country.
I have one Iranian girlfriend and she told me the freedom she has in KL. She loves to dress trendy (at times sexy) and loves to party. In iran with all her money she can’t enjoy it. She has to mind the p & qs.
By being more religious the second wave of expat will run away (i.e. the Arabs – the Chinese cabut because of the MH hoohaa and one tour agent in Penang told me so – it is very serious.). The next wave will be the kweilos.
Of course thanks to PR! With water and MH, let us look out what next big this the KooKoo Chiao UBAH bird will bring. (The bird is more lethal that they flying flesh hungry dinosaur bird.)
If you wish to see Malaysia ditimpa malapetaka, do implement the sectarian hudud of PAS. Why do I say that? Because under that law the weak and the poor will be maimed (& killed) and the rich and the powerful will get away scot free. When there are no justice, God will send his wrath. Malaysia will then be in fire like most of Muslim countries.
If you don’t believe me then check out Saudi Arabia. The maimed are the poor (& migrants) but the rich who stole millions get away with a mere fine and a few years jail term.
Even in Malaysia you can see already how PAS head honchos defended his powerful allies even when there are authentic video evidence of the wrong doing. I bet you if that video evidence is of a normal rakyat, they will not hesitate to use it to make an example of them.
I just wish that the Muslims in Malaysia will just wake up. PAS version of hudud is not God’s law. How can an unjust law be God’s law? If you believe that unjust law is God’s law, then you are basically saying that God is unjust. Then why on earth that you keep on reciting that God is all Merciful and Forgiving? Isn’t it an oxymoron?
To fellow Malaysians, you like to see your countrymen being maimed? Why are you so blood thirsty? Human without compassion is worse than animals. Don’t you believe in second chance? Is there second chance when you already lost the function of your hands? Is there second chance after you are dead when you committed adultery and apostasy?
re: “I just wish that the Muslims in Malaysia will just wake up.”
Why are you asking just the Muslims alone to wake up?
Many Chinese support hudud because the DAP has assured them that it does not affect non-Muslims.
Many Christians are looking forward to see the hand of Umno leaders and Umno members chopped off.
See sample comment below:
Dear Mr Kam and Mr John Lee
If there was Hudud tommorow, I wonder what would be given Anwar since the two sodomy charges. I dont what will happen to his famous birdbird.
And for Evangelism to convert to Christianity – so many Selangor Harvesters? They just shake to the music like Ke$Ha.
And certainly with hudud, where goes our GAB (sorry dont drink – so cant spell beer names) factory in Shah Alam.
And I look forward to no double parking in front of Magnum shops. And no more stupid Hua Hee Dai sexy Hockien karaoke singing contests (sponsored by TOTO) at Berjaya Times Square).
Mr Kam and John Lee Like us PEACE and LOVing Malaysians, we wellcome Hudud.
“If you don’t believe me then check out Saudi Arabia.”
I know, there’s this Filipino rape victim who was sentenced to be lashed 100 times in Saudi Arabia back in 2010; I don’t know what’s the fate of this poor woman now.
“The maimed are the poor…”
That’s how the world works, then and now. You have money, you have the freedom to do whatever s**t you want. If you’re poor, too bad, nobody will bat an eyelid to whatever s**t befall on you.
“I just wish that the Muslims in Malaysia will just wake up.”
Don’t hold your breath; who knows Malaysia could be the first model country in the world with successful hudud implementation, belum cuba belum tau; don’t be too quick to judge ok, read more about hudud itself, can or not?
A lot of people already rubbing both their palms with glee, waiting to see how corrupt politicians becoming OKU while I’m having a palm on my forehead instead. First Kelantan, then Perlis (they’re mulling it already), next Terengganu or Kedah, finally whole Malaysia come 2020 (although I’m sure this isn’t part of what TDM think of his 2020 country- only a mere 6 years away).
Anyway msH, wat happen to the utube link, it dosn’t directed to the hudud link?
My apology. The link has been corrected now.
Anu sudah potong. Tangan mau kasi potong. Kenapa suka potong potong.
Religion holds us back, us especially Melayus.
Yes, the kind of religion that has no place for logical thinking, nor that which ridicules the disciplines of self-realization (mengenal diri) and moral culture (tazkiyah an-nafs). Everything which classical Islam is not.
Shut up you rat!! I don’t know if you melayu or not. Tell the truth religion don’t hold melayu back actually. See how many in prison.
If hold us back maybe gambling and drinking toddy in large number.
maybe apostasy too.
It is a tragedy to say the least. Our country, with these crooks leading the way, is surely on the way to failed state status. By crooks, I mean people who brainwash people into thinking that their saviors will save the day, people who paddle holy water, promises of paradise and so on. Is it any wonder why the thinking people, whether Malay, Chinese or Indian, have made their choice, that is by seeking permanent residency abroad and these people are not coming back. I see this at work at my office, smart, bright, young, regardless of ethnicity, they have made their decision, they are voting with their feet.
The exodus will intensified if come the next GE, the holy water party and her allies are swept into power and the unthinking folks, the people who outsource their thinking to these crook parties i.e the holy water gangs who took to the streets yesterday, good luck to them. They better pray that the looting will not be that severe once the holy water party and her allies come into power because the way I see it, no one is going to be around to stop them. The could not care less party, you know who I m referring to, they are riding into the sunset with every missteps every day.
“Is it any wonder why the thinking people, whether Malay, Chinese or Indian, have made their choice, that is by seeking permanent residency abroad and these people are not coming back. “
Those who could afford to do so will continue to do so , in droves, yup, in droves- no kidding. I’m hearing it almost every other few months. I can understand that and won’t berate them as I know some of them. I just realized yesterday one of my high school mates is now a blood cancer researcher somewhere in Oceania, winning grants from a cancer foundation to boot; truly impressive.
re: “I can understand that and won’t berate them”
The hypocrisy of someone whose own Permanent Residence application in Tasmania was rejected having the nerve to tell young people, “Don’t change ur country, change ur govt!”
Yeah … Dapsters please stay back and vote DAP and put the evangelista carpetbaggers in power so that Madame Speaker can enjoy her RM50k take-home pay and perks. Her groupies are lobotomized sheeple who strangely enough think it is the BN folks who are “stoopid”.
“Dapsters please stay back and vote DAP and put the evangelista carpetbaggers in power “
They can always come back to vote and leave the country once they have voted- they don’t have to be here permanently ;-) That’s what happened in wu yue wu (05/05/2013- 五月五,换政府).
If they “change their country” like the BOCs who tore up their passports, then they can’t.
Change from a good govt to a lousy govt….. see Selangor……. perut sendiri ada jaga…. perut orang lain?
re: “perut sendiri ada jaga….”
Kenaikan gaji dia bagi kat diri sendiri 300 peratus.
Don’t be stupid like guan eng.
He proposed Christians to use Allah.
Allah says PRACTISE HUDUD.
Now he refused.
What is his hidden agenda than. ?
Perhaps MUJAHID CAN HELP TO EXPLAIN…
To be PM/DPM or whatever positions of political and econmoic power and to control Putrajaya and the country.
The same with the rest of the PR leaders. With great power comes more lusty power. Fullstop.
To the voters… who?
Q: What is the punishment in hudud for sodomy? Curious.
With great power comes the greater need to loot the nation.
In Iran the hudud punishment for sodomy is death. In Saudi the actual head gets chopped off.
Raja Petra Kamarudin said “Hence, Hudud is NOT a law for animals. It is a law for Judeo-Christians. But most Judeo-Christians have turned their backs on the Bible and have rejected these laws.”
http://www.malaysia-today.net/hudud-is-for-animals-happy-good-friday/
Amen! In reality to be really good Christians, Christians should be subjected to hudud. The pagans have infiltrated Christianity and to go back then Christians should embrace and protect hudud.
Hence, hudud and syariah should cover non only Muslims but all Chriatians and Jews who stay in this country. Of course Buddhists Taoists, Hindu and others shoould be exempted. OKM, Madame as true believers should be subjected to hudud. Anwar included!
The answer is rather obvious. I’m not for but do not fear
Hudud. Given the traits demonstrated by the DAP elected members, I do not believe they can govern themselves let alone their other coalition partners and worse the nation. This I fear more.
Scary DAP!
An interesting article on OSTB that postulates that the translation of the cutting hands of thieves means for the thief to recompense the value of what was stolen with the work of his own hands.
Sounds more reasonable to me. ..
Ms H. IT IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD AND CRAZY FOR THE SINGAPOREAN TROJAN HORSE DAP TO BEHAVE NOW WITH THE MALAYS AS THOUGH THEY HAVE JUST ARRIVED FROM MARS AS TOURISTS. YOU AND ME HAVE FRATERNIZED WITH THE MALAYS AND INDIANS LONG LONG AGO. in my case, it was 1954 !
DAP is now doing an exercise in FUTILITY !
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