DAP got strength in numbers
“Don’t talk. All the time talking May 13, May 13. Bring lah May 13.” — P. Ramasamy, DAP deputy secretary-general
“You think what? You think we’re scared, ah?”
Isma: “MCA sebakul dengan DAP”
Ustaz Mohd Hazizi Abd Rahman mengingatkan umat Islam supaya tidak wajar mempercayai “spin” yang dibuat oleh pihak pembangkang untuk bersangka baik dengan Ahli Parlimen DAP Serdang evangelista Ong Kian Ming yang kononnya sedang berpuasa itu.
Ustaz Mohd Hazizi, ahli exco Isma, berkata:
“…tiada ruang bersangka baik untuk DAP. Mana-mana jamaah Islam yang bersangka baik dengan DAP, sedangkan dasar perjuangannya kekal untuk meruntuhkan premis Islam bernegara di negara ini, maka tamatlah peranannya sebagai jamaah Islam kerana kebutaan terhadap musuh Islam, bahkan bersekongkol menjayakan agenda musuh. Ia hanya menipu masyarakat dengan imej Islamnya.
“MCA juga sekarang ini sudah menzahirkan ia boleh diletakkan sebakul dengan DAP.”
BAWAH: Cara puasa ikut hukum DAP
Umno masih tak sedar bahawa MCA sebakul dengan DAP?
CEO Bernama TV Ibrahim Yahaya menasihatkan MCA untuk “sedar diri”.
Kata beliau dalam blognya hari ini:
“Tulisan Tan Sri Zainuddin Maidin mengenai MCA baru-baru ini perlu dilihat oleh parti itu sebagai teguran seorang wartawan atau seorang Melayu yang melihat pemimpin parti itu yang bersikap seperti melepaskan anjing tersepit. Selepas dilepaskan anjing itu akan menggigit mereka yang membantunya.”
The question should be how Umno is going to deal with it
Updated in Tan Sri Zam’s blog:
IT.Scheiss: “Today it seems that whilst The Star is owned by the MCA, but its editorial content serve the interests of the DAP, so what’s the MCA going to do about this or how can it deal with it?”
My response: MCA is NOT going to do anything about this. Neither is MCA going to be able to deal with it. It will have to be Umno to carry out the job of neutralizing The J. But how can Umno do anything when among the ranks of the Umno Cabinet Ministers, you have Dapster Khairy who has a Scissorati press secretary?
Updated: 12.16am, 8 July 2014
162 thoughts on “Updated (1): You think we’re scared, ah? Bring it on”
On a separate note, I’ve just been informed that the former DAP Johor deputy chairman Norman Fernandez has quit the party today.
Norman was given a showcause letter to answer to the party disciplinary committee for his outspokenness.
He no longer has faith in the direction that the UBAH-DAP is taking.
It is my belief that Norman is most correct to leave the party now. They (the new DAP) are treading a path that is bad news for everybody and a catastrophe for the Chinese.
More news about Norman previously, HERE.
Wisdom fears no human artifice. Arrogance and avarice ambushes every soul that trades in politics.
Golongan BiaDAP memang pakar putar belit!
TPM LEBIH menekankan kepada isu isu yang boleh mencetuskan tragedy 13 Mei yang nampaknya semakin berlaku berleluasa sekarang.
Tetapi isu ini diputar belitkan seolah olah TPM menggalakkan peristiwa ini berlaku. Siap dengan respon sombong mereka,
‘ We are not scared.’😱
‘All of us better be scared.’
Tragedy seperti 13 May membawa kemudaratan kepada semua. Kalah jadi abu menang jadi arang!
Terutama sekali orang Cina, negara yang huru hara membunuh peluang untuk kamu buat lebih banyak wang.
Bangunan bangunan yang tinggi tinggi, ladang ladang yang luas luas, kenderan kenderaan yang mewah dan canggih canggih majoritinya milik kamu.
Apalah ertinya harta harta ini kalau semuanya telah hangus menjadi abu!!!😭
Fikir fikirkanlah. Jangan cakap ikut sedap mulut. Nenek moyang saya menasihati kami ‘ sebab pulut santan binasa sebab mulut badan merana! ‘🙀
Tambah sidikit lagi. Kalau terjadi peristiwa ala 13 Mei, percayalah kejadian itu bukan dimulai oleh orang orang Melayu Islam!
Seperti juga tragedy 13 Mei 69 api pergaduhan dicetuskan oleh ‘tokoh’ & co. yang masih hidup lagi!
Tapi dasar putar belit dan lidah bercabang mereka, mana mahu mengaku. Malah cuba pula menyalahkan pihak lain!
Tapi jangan lupa Tahun tahu. Malangnya golongan ini mana percaya pada Tuhan!
Go fuck yourself you useless piece of rent seeking shit
Many times I came across Chinese who blamed Tun Razak (meaning Malays) on May 13, 1969. I remembered vividly a Chinese shopkeeper who proudly told me before my American professor (in 1985) that Tun Razak created May 13, 1969 to force Tunku to retire.
The Chinese shopkeeper was simply dumbfounded when a customer (a Malay) who happened to be in his shop at that very moment asked him “Can you explain about a procession that went through Kg Baru and mocked the Malays”?
Later as a bachelor, I lived in Kg Baru. As I mentioned previously, several “Tok Lebai” who was youths at that time (1969) told me that they saw Kit Siang was on a lorry urging Malays to “balik kampung tanam jagung”.
Kit Siang often told us that he was in Sabah on May 13. What he did not tell us is what he did few days before May 13. In fact there was a White paper by Government that said Kit Siang’s destructive role that led to May 13.
As Malays, we do not want to “bising”. To us “itu cerita lama”. But to DAP, it secretly has been telling Chinese that UMNO played racial issues. That was the reason why almost all Chinese who blamed UMNO for racial riot was simply speechless when I told them about provocative behaviour of Chinese procession. THEY DID NOT ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
re: “They did not know anything about it.”
Not only the next generation Chinese don’t know but the Malays and Indians don’t know either.
The BN leadership took the approach to blanket all discussion. They meant well, in that May 13 should be consigned to the past and Malaysia should move forward and not be haunted by the bloody episode.
However the decision by Tun Razak (jangan disebut-sebut lagi, buang yang keruh) could prove to be a mistake because if we don’t learn from history, then we’re bound to repeat it.
However those of us who try to tell the “extremists” that their behaviour is reminiscent of the 12 May 1969 opposition procession are instead accused of “fear-mongering”.
UMNO leadership, I realise meant well when they discourage any analysis on May 13. What UMNO “terlepas pandang” is that DAP is telling its version of May 13 to young Chinese.
And its version has expected result: blaming Tun Razak (meaning Malays). And as Tun Razak passed away almost 40 years ago, he was not in position to defend himself.
And you are right. Even Malays too believe nonsense DAP is feeding them. That is why many Malay young men whom I met simply did not believe what I told them what Kit Siang did just few days before May 13.
re: “What UMNO ‘terlepas pandang’ is that DAP is telling its version of May 13 to young Chinese.”
Umno is PPTA. It is losing its pants in the propaganda war against the Red Army cadres. Tun is right to be worried. Very worried.
re: “And as Tun Razak passed away almost 40 years ago, he was not in position to defend himself.”
His son Ah Jib Gor should defend the father’s good name. Sigh, too much to hope for as he has not defended his wife’s reputation either.
re: “And you are right. Even Malays too believe nonsense DAP is feeding them.”
All it takes for the Malays to succumb is to hear the evangelistas ucap “Insya Allah”, mention “sahur” and wear tudung while paying a visit to the mosque.
But now the DAP has taken it one step further by recruiting Dyana, Rara and Melati.
re: “That is why many Malay young men whom I met simply did not believe what I told them what Kit Siang did just few days before May 13.”
Between listening to you and listening to Dyana, Rara and Melati, the many Malay young men might be more attentive to the DAP squad (no offence to you).
Maksudnya kamu takut peristiwa 13 Mei versi 2 ini akan membawa kepada kemudaratan ekonomi dan bukannya kecederaan tubuh badan?
Maksud saya, saya lebih rela tragedy 13 Mei versi 2 lebih kepada kemusnahan harta benda daripada nyawa.
Harta boleh dicari lagi tetapi nyawa tiada galang gantinya.
Tapi itu mustahil bukan? Bila terjadi huru hara mangsanya adalah manusia dan juga harta benda.
Cuma kalau kita ada kuasa ‘magic’ , SEMUA TOKOH’ yang pakar melakukan provokasi melampau yang membangkitkan pergaduhan antara kaum, dikumpulkan. Kemudian, fikir fikirlah apa yang patut dilakukan!.
Sebenarnya segelintar golongan kecil inilah yang menjadi PUAKA menghasut kebencian antara kaum. Terhapusnya mereka, selamatlah negara.
Sebenarnya tidak ada masalah untuk orang orang Melayu, Cina, India dll untuk hidup di Malaysia kalau tidak ada PENGHASUT.
Rumah saya hanya dipisahkan oleh parit dengan jiran Cina, Jaraknya, hanya kira kira 3 meter . Tidak ada pangar yang memisahkannya.
Kami telah berjiran bertahun tahun lamanya. Tidak ada masalah untuk berbual bual. bertukar tukar makanan bila hari kebesaran masing masing. Beri jiran hasil tanaman buah buahan yang telah berhasil dsb.
Sebagai manusia saya juga menajdi jadi terlalu amat marah dengan kata kata dan perbuatan perbuatan provokasi golongan tertentu!
Timbul rasa benci pada kaum itu.
Tapi bila saya lihat Ah Kong dan Ah Soh serta anak anak dan cucu yang menjadi jiran saya, timbul kesedaran dalam hati, apakah dosa mereka untuk dibenci?
Dari lahir hingga kini saya terus menetap di pekan kecil ini. Masyarakat pekan dan kampong kecil amat kenal mengenali antara satu sama lain tanpa mengira bangsa.
Malah ‘busy body’ mereka yang berlainan bangsa terhadap saya boleh dikatakan kadang kadang agak ‘over’ dari bangsa saya sendiri. Tapi saya tak kesah kerana semua itulah yang mengeratkan tali persahabatan.
Jadi kenapa kita biarkan ahli ahli politik kiasu dan cauvanist merosakan kehidupan harmoni antara kaum kerana ketamakan dan kerakusan mereka hendak berkuasa?
Untuk menyelamatkan rakyat dan negara Malaysia, golongan inilah yang perlu ‘dilenyapkan’
re: “Tapi bila saya lihat Ah Kong dan Ah Soh serta anak anak dan cucu yang menjadi jiran saya, timbul kesedaran dalam hati, apakah dosa mereka untuk dibenci?”
Saya kesian pada golongan Ah Pek dan Ah Por yang bakal menerima padah (apa-apa perkara yang tidak diingini) hanya kerana kerakusan dan nafsu pemimpin DAP yang diserahkan kepercayaan bulat-bulat oleh mereka.
Golongan Cina Bukit sebenarnya tak untung apa-apa pun.
Jawatan semua dibolot oleh lingkaran evangelista. Misalan, bekas Pembantu Peribadi Hannah Yeoh, Rajiv yang India-evangelista itu kini menjadi Adun Bukit Gasing. Seorang lagi PA-nya Ken Chia dilantik sebagai ahli MPSJ manakala Ng Sze Han, seorang kaunsilor MPSJ pula hari ini Adun Kinrara.
Guan Eng menaiki Mercedes-Benz S300L baru yang dibawa dreber, Ah Pek masih tunggang motosikal kapcai.
Cucu-cicit kaum Tionghua akan menyumpah seranah manusia tamak 3G yang bergelar evangelista DAP ini untuk tujuh keturunan.
Re Cucu-cicit kaum Tionghua akan menyumpah seranah manusia tamak 3G yang bergelar evangelista DAP ini untuk tujuh keturunan.
Woh ni bukan main main Helen. Tak baik cakap macam ni.
I don’t see how else to express the magnitude of what the DAP evangelistas are doing.
Ada caranya Helen. Moga moga ramai di kalangan Cina yang bersikap harmonis seperti Helen terus menulis untuk memberi kesedaran kepada mereka, bahaya mempercayai golongan kecil evangelista DAP .
Biasanya kata kata yang keluar dari bangsa sendiri lebih diyakini.
Cuma saya takut ‘backfire’. Helen dan mereka yang sependapat akan di’kerja’kan kaw kaw dari kiri, kanan, atas, bawah, belakang dan hadapan oleh golongan ini!
Mereka ini jenis yang sanggup menghalalkan apa sahaja cara asalkan hasrat mereka tercapai!
re: “Helen dan mereka yang sependapat akan di’kerja’kan kaw kaw dari kiri, kanan, atas, bawah, belakang dan hadapan oleh golongan ini!”
Yes, I’m being harassed and victim of dedicated smear campaign / fitnah. You can see their level of viciousness in the Alifah Ting episode.
What worries me is that goodwill is fast depleting. The truth is that I no longer trust Chinese (as a race).
No doubt I have quite a number of close Chinese friends. But last election taught me that what ever hope Malays have to have a genuine relationship with Chinese is misplaced.
I have enough of racist DAP that blames UMNO as racist when the opposite is the truth. That is why nowadays I adopt a blunt approach. I simply them off whenever they cross the line.
re: “The truth is that I no longer trust Chinese (as a race).”
DAP have got Malay recruits now. Dyana, Rara and Melati and others can gain the Malay community trust for the DAP.
Call a spade a spade. Helen just told the truth to the chinese. That DAP in its quest to power is bringing Chinese to confront the Malays.
DAP is telling the chinese that it is worth to be confrontational to the Malays. What it refuses to tell is that DAP is putting Chinese into firing line.
Chinese are led to believe they could outmanouvre the Malays through slandering, insulting Islam Malays, Malay rulers or anything to with the Malays. Chinese took the bait but the political power still with the Malays.
DAP is teaching the Chinese that they(Chinese) can take away everything for them. It is a dangerous political game.
Mudah mudahan ahli keluarga kau menjadi mangsa sekira berlakunya rusuhan kaum 2.0.
Ala hai kb… janganlah doakan yang tak baik pada bulan yang mulia ini… Taurat, Zabur, Injil dan Quran telah diturunkan di dalam bulan Ramadhan Al Mubaraq… kita doalah semoga peristiwa 13 Mei tidak akan berulang lagi di negara kita ini… dan kita doakan juga untuk keselamatan dan keamanan khas bagi mereka yang berada di semenanjung Gaza… Amin
No offense taken. Naturally youngsters who were born at time of prosperity and has maids to even wash their undergarments may not have the depth to understand how dangerous DAP is.
They are young. What differentiate you, me, my father, your mom from these idealists “budak budak muda” is “pengalaman”. Because of experience in real life I can see how dangerous DAP is and how cruel it will be if it has power.
But all is not lost. There are young people who understand. They are rationale, more than you find from narrow minded politicians like Hannah Yeoh, Mahfuz, Kit Siang, Khairi.
But of course it is difficult to reach “budak budak muda” with Zumba. Looks cool BUT DOES NOT BRING VOTE.
re: They (the new DAP) are treading a path that is bad news for everybody and a catastrophe for the Chinese
You mean May 13 version 2?
You all don’t believe that it will ever repeat, so why bother clarifying?
But lots of people said it will happen starting from after the 2008 election, but till now nothing has occur. Except for some small scale demo or protest. Bersih and Black May demo have more demonstrators. Even conflicts that created tensions like kalimah Allah, statement made by ISMA president, Rayer ‘celaka Umno’ statement and the subsequent trespassers into the Penang legislative buildings are being dealt by the court of laws and not by street demo.
So, how to believe that May 13 version 2 will happen? Unless you want to put an indefinite timeframe into your forecast of the ‘imminent May 13 version 2’? Like the coming 20 years? Or even 30 years?
re: “But lots of people said it will happen starting from after the 2008 election, but till now nothing has occur.”
Because BN took their losses reasonably and did not act (react) outside the law.
re: “Bersih and Black May demo have more demonstrators.”
By this are you saying that Pakatan has street support? Well yes, they received 51% of the popular vote after all. You’ll have to elaborate on where you’re going with your argument of Pakatan numbers.
re: “Even conflicts that created tensions like kalimah Allah, statement made by ISMA president, Rayer ‘celaka Umno’ statement and the subsequent trespassers into the Penang legislative buildings are being dealt by the court of laws and not by street demo.”
What do you think could have happened if the state and Islamic authorities lost the Federal Court hearing that day?
re: “So, how to believe that May 13 version 2 will happen?”
Would you have believed that barely a year after the last general election installed Khalid Ibrahim as MB Selangor his colleagues want to oust him? Until just a couple of months ago, wasn’t Khalid extensively touted as the best reason a Pakatan government is better than a BN government?
re: “Unless you want to put an indefinite timeframe into your forecast of the ‘imminent May 13 version 2’? Like the coming 20 years? Or even 30 years?”
Shall we play the time frame game on Khalid’s tenure first? It’s of more immediate interest.
re: Because BN took their losses reasonably and did not act (react) outside the law.
Yes. Disputes pertaining to elections are settled by the election court. Both BN and PR brought their cases to court.
re: By this are you saying that Pakatan has street support?
Not street support. I think more people are willing to attend street demo for causes like anti GST, free and fair election, Black May etc but not on religion/ethnic. Look at the Himpunan Sejuta Umat Islam. How many attended?
re: What do you think could have happened if the state and Islamic authorities lost the Federal Court hearing that day?
How to comment on something that has not happen? Even if it happened, I would say ‘respect the law’. Advocating riot is putting law into own hands.
re: Khalid ouster vs 13 May version 2
Is it reasonable to compare the above at the first place? Both are so distinct. For Khalid, we can see events like people opposing his handling of Kidex, water and BSM bibles etc. Yet the people didn’t use a ‘May 13’ method, i.e. riot to remove him.
re: Shall we play the time frame game on Khalid’s tenure first? It’s of more immediate interest.
Sure. I also want him to leave. MB may come and go. But the state admin is still in PR hands. But I am more interested with your ‘crystal ball’. When you think 13 May version 2 will happen? Mind to tell when you first developed the thought that it will happen? I guess since the 2008 election.
re: “I think more people are willing to attend street demo for causes like anti GST, free and fair election, Black May etc but not on religion/ethnic. Look at the Himpunan Sejuta Umat Islam. How many attended?”
Some Chinese demo for the very first time in their lives during Bersih 2.0 and it was an occasion for them to group huddle and Instagram their “Been there, done that” photos, and pat themselves on the back while hi-fiving away. The tear gas & water cannons during Bersih 2.0 were rather mild, comparatively and no (serious) violence to speak of.
The ones who support religious causes – even among Malaysians – are willing to take up arms and blow themselves up. In short, they are willing to die for Islam.
You may get the superficial huge numbers for the Kelana Jaya stadium blackout protest but can those wearing the slogan T-shirts match the jihadis in commitment?
re: “How to comment on something that has not happen?”
If it has not happened, how can you be sure that it/something won’t happen?
re: Khalid ouster vs 13 May version 2
re: “Yet the people didn’t use a ‘May 13’ method, i.e. riot to remove him.”
A ‘May 13’ riot to remove a corporate man such as the former chairman of Guthrie just doesn’t gel.
re: “Mind to tell when you first developed the thought that it will happen? I guess since the 2008 election.”
I’m not someone who has memories of May 13. But when I look at the behaviour of the Dapster-evangelistas, I see that it matches the historical description (from the White Paper and May 13 books, anecdotes, oral history) of the behaviour of the Chinese and Indians in May 1969.
Not 2008. Everyone was in shock then and the cockiness was yet to develop because the DAP hadn’t tasted power.
Why do you think someone like Norman Fernandez from DAP 1.0 is calling it quits?
re: The tear gas & water cannons during Bersih 2.0 were rather mild, comparatively and no (serious) violence to speak of.
Then why Himpunan Sejuta Umat Islam which has no ‘authority threats’ at all failed to gather mass crowd?
When I use the yardstick of the number of crowds, you dismissed them as “group huddle and Instagram………..”. I am not able to comment/rebut as I am not a mind reader. I would stick to the more observable measurement, i.e. number of attendees.
re: The ones who support religious causes – even among Malaysians – are willing to take up arms and blow themselves up. In short, they are willing to die for Islam.
Which local Msian Muslim has done that in Msia?
re: If it has not happened, how can you be sure that it/something won’t happen?
Your comment was referring to the Federal Court decision of kalimah Allah right? We all know that leave was not granted. The case ended there itself. The Herald lost its case. So, how can ‘Muslims run amok’ with the Federal Court decision that favours them?
re: But when I look at the behaviour of the Dapster-evangelistas, I see that it matches the historical description (from the White Paper and May 13 books, anecdotes, oral history) of the behaviour of the Chinese and Indians in May 1969.
Let us straight to the point. Tell us now. When you foresee May 13 version 2 to happen? Why not put a timer at the top/header of your blog and test your crystal ball?
Let me start first: I would bet that from now until the coming 14th general election, there will be no RACIAL RIOT of the same scale as 13th May 1969.
re: “Then why Himpunan Sejuta Umat Islam which has no ‘authority threats’ at all failed to gather mass crowd?”
Sebab sabar separuh daripada iman. Also Himpunan Sejuta Umat predated the rise and rise of Isma.
re: “When I use the yardstick of the number of crowds, you dismissed them as “group huddle and Instagram………..”. I am not able to comment/rebut as I am not a mind reader. I would stick to the more observable measurement, i.e. number of attendees.”
I was trying to avoid sticking the adjective “quality” to the jihadis. I grant the “quantity” of the huge numbers attending the Blackout 505 rally but in terms of commitment to the cause, how do you think they match up to the other side of the ‘Allah’ contestation?
re: “Which local Msian Muslim has done that in Msia?”
We’ve had a Malaysian suicide bomber already and yesterday the J-Star happily frontpaged the confessions of a Malaysian militant.
re: “So, how can ‘Muslims run amok’ with the Federal Court decision that favours them?”
What if it hadn’t?
re: “Why not put a timer at the top/header of your blog and test your crystal ball?”
If I did that my blog would be reported to the MCMC for sedition.
re: “Let me start first: I would bet that from now until the coming 14th general election, there will be no RACIAL RIOT of the same scale as 13th May 1969.”
A negative (not happening) prediction is fine. Making a positive (forecast date) prediction will invite all kinds of accusations and curses on my head.
re: If I did that my blog would be reported to the MCMC for sedition.
re: Making a positive (forecast date) prediction will invite all kinds of accusations and curses on my head.
That is my point. You finally got it. You have respect to the law. We have laws in Msia. At this modern age, disputes will be settled according to the law. I repeat here: kalimah Allah, trespassers to Penang legislative building, the statement made by Isma president, ‘celaka umno’ remark, BSM bibles etc. All these are handled according to the legal system, i.e. the police, the AG and the Court. Even Zul Nordin and Ibrahim Ali made ‘seditious statements’ and no legal action taken against them, they lost in elections.
re: “That is my point. You finally got it. You have respect to the law.”
I respect the law. It is the Christians who don’t.
I said if the Christians don’t like the law, they should ask their evangelista reps to move an amendment to the Selangor Enactment 1988 because Aduns are legislators by job function.
But instead when the Federal Court gave their judgment, the Church immediately made their defiance clear.
re: “All these are handled according to the legal system, i.e. the police, the AG and the Court.”
Until such a point where the system fails. The police were supposed to have executed the civil court order and recovered custody of the child for the Hindu mother from the Indian convert father. They’re not doing it.
JAIS were supposed to have returned the Bibles. The AG’s Chamber said as much. JAIS is refusing to do so.
re: Sebab sabar separuh daripada iman.
The gathering is a peaceful affair held at a stadium on weekend. Plenty of seats, plenty of parking lots, no traffic jam and held at Shah Alam (a Muslim Malay majority area).
Is the Muslims really ‘sabar’ or simply ‘tak kisah’?
I think the Malays are sabar and you could be right “simply ‘tak kisah’.”
If the ‘Allah’ issue had cropped up in say, Pakistan, I do not reckon that the Muslims there would have exercised the same restraint.
re: If the ‘Allah’ issue had cropped up in say, Pakistan,
Pakistan? What if Saudi? Will the Muslims there react the same like Muslims here?
For some reason, the Muslim countries in the Indian sub-continent has seen the most deadly riots and surpassing the Arab countries.
re: ………. the Church immediately made their defiance clear.
What defiance? The court decision is binding on The Herald. The minister is now legally empowered to restrict the use of kalimah Allah. As long as the minister has not impose such restriction outside the scope of The Herald, Christians are free to use the word in the practise of their faiths.
re: Until such a point where the system fails.
The law is clear. Too bad the enforcers are blur. PDRM being a body estalished under civill law must obey the civil court order.
For JAIS, they are state level enforcers. If AG (a federal level prosecutor) said no case, the seized alkitab must be returned.
As simple as that. Problem is we have warlords in these departments, i.e. PDRM and JAIS that refused to follow the law.
1st class law but 3rd class enforcement.
Guess how long it takes you to be an armchair critic to type out your comments and give ‘dumb’ label. You are a keyboard warrior.
Helen took the effort to answer my comments. I may disagree with her but I salute your replies. For you, if you have points bring it out here. I will respond accordingly.
“When you think 13 May version 2 will happen?”- abc
Just to chip in; are you active in social media (Facebook) and other form of Internet avenues like lowyat, cari forums etc? Most of the ugly racial / religion “firebombings” happen in virtual world at this moment. The question is, will all these cause big enough rift and resentment among people of different races and which in turn manifested into actual violence on the street? I don’t know, but Raja Petra seems to think so as well.
If I may chip in too …
re: “will all these cause big enough rift and resentment among people of different races and which in turn manifested into actual violence on the street?”
Anons are real people with 10 fingers tapping the keyboard or tablet or smart phone. The ugly words don’t write themselves. They come from an individual’s mind — feeling and thinking.
Can this cyber persona be separated from the flesh and blood individual when – say – he’s queuing up for his KFC and picking a fight with the cashier? A Beanie (or his Malay/Indian equivalent) who’s foul mouth and short-tempered in the virtual world will carry over the same personality traits to the real world too.
It’s the same person after all.
this abc fella is dumb, shortsighted, immature and lives under a tempurung. So shallow in thought. So much time, effort and have been wasted answering him . For his information, highly inflammable materials are scattered all over the country now. It only needs a very small spark to set it on fire, a big fire!
Raja petra the political pariah? Oh common, ever since his son got arrested for stealing motorbike, he has been supporting BN. So much respect we had for a political pariah, a true shame to the kerabat.
ISMA President was charged while Rayer was practically left scot-free. One wonders whether PR’s (read DAP) agenda has penetrated the deepest echelon of the present Government!
It’s not a crime to insult a political party. DAP is insulted all the time by the Umno right wingers.
Under the Sedition Act, however, the right of citizenship as well as the Malay special position and the status of the monarchy are off limits. Hence Abdullah Zaik falls under the ambit of the Sedition Act whereas Rayer doesn’t.
Let me be more explicit. The Malay special position, status of the monarchy, right of citizenship and BM as national language became protected topics following amendments made to the Federal Constitution post-May 13, and the restriction enforced via the Sedition Act.
It was Tun Razak’s way of preserving peace by tightening the scope of what was permissible in public discourse in the aftermath of the race riots. After the May 13 date itself, there were still small outbreaks of violence here and there in the subsequent months.
How UMNO to deal with it(to deal with MCA).
How about UMNO stops baby sitting MCA. A political party must stay relevant. MCA must fight DAP in Chinese majority areas to earn respect. Go fight and defeat DAP. than you earn the respect.
Just like UMNO can claim to be voice of the malays. It fights PAS, PKR in malay areas.
How about Najjib using the time tested method used by anyone on this planet. that is to give priority to those who support his government. Instead Najib treats lightly those who defend his government.
Worse still, he supports those literally want him dead. How to explain Dr Mujahid, Saifudin, Marina, Wardina in Majlis Konsultasi Perpaduan Negara.
wassup with all the sexy ads. monetising your blog?
it’s about time. bills need to be paid i guess.
What browser are you using? Why don’t you save a screenshot and show me?
re: “monetising your blog? it’s about time. bills need to be paid i guess.”
Typical Dapster. Charging in with accusations. What proof do you have that I’m collecting any ad revenue? It’s the way you people talk that makes you disliked. A pro-establishment reader would not have commented using your tone nor your choice of words.
You have to see the origin of the advertiser. Like other ordinary WordPress users, I’m using this service free of charge. WordPress belongs to Google. So Google have the right to place their ads here.
If you watch YouTube, you’re also using the YouTube service for free. The people who post their videos on YouTube similarly cannot control what ads appear with their videos and nor are they collecting advertisement income. It is YouTube’s prerogative.
The kind of comments you make indicate the kind of idiot you are.
maaf zahir dan batin.
ana punya pc kena malware rupe-rupenya.
my sincerest apologies for the defamation and slanderous, baseless accusations.
yes, i am an idiot.
Its her blog la. Even if she did, why you susah? You go and start your own blog la, see whether it can monetized or not?
maaf tuan buat susah comment defend your favourite blogger.
kita semua berkunjung ke blog ini pun sebab kita tak suka pimpinan 1MPM6 DSNTR dan juga Dapsters, scissorati, dsb..
In the 70s and 80s, there was this tv show hosted by comedian Rich Little where viewers would write in about their wishes. The tag line was “You asked for it!”
This Ramasamy better pray someone doesn’t take him up on his offer, with him being the opening act. Then he’ll be squealing on the other side of his face.
Only mule-headed ostriches with their heads buried somewhere where the sun don’t shine believe they can continue prodding and trying the patience of Muslims and Malays.
On another note, was talking to my mum about the increasing number of moths this past few weeks. She said it’s a harbinger of bad news. She said my grandma said a few weeks before the Japanese attacked in 1941, there was a pond where Puduraya is. It was suddenly covered with hundreds of moths.
And before May 13, there was also hundreds of moths in the Petaling St area where my great grandma lived.
Cue Twilight Zone theme…..
Perpatah Melayu ada mengatakan, ‘kalau orang sngup menjual, maka sanguplah kita membelinya’.
Walaupon perbalahan kaum itu burok akibatnya tetapi sampai bila sesuatu kaum itu harus beralah, bagi mengelekannya sedangkan kaum yang lagi satu sentiasa memberikan tekanan demi tekanan.
Just wait for the last straw.
kontrovesi dan sesuatu yg menghancurkan negara dap memang juara…….
Gerakan menghancurkan negara bermula sudah lama…
‘Surat ini jugalah yang membuka jalan kepada 14 tuntutan IFC yang mengambil sikap konfrontasi terhadap Islam dan umatnya. Berikut 14 Tuntutan IFC bagi mereka yang telah terlupa :
Berikut merupakan 14 tuntutan IFC :
Seseorang anak yang dilahirkan oleh ibu bapa orang Islam tidak seharusnya secara terus menjadi orang Islam.
Orang-orang bukan Islam yang telah memeluk agama Islam hendaklah diberikan kebebasan untuk kembali kepada agama asal mereka (murtad) dan tidak boleh dikenakan tindakan undang-undang.
Sebarang kes pertukaran agama orang Islam kepada bukan Islam tidak sepatutnya dikendalikan oleh Mahkamah Syariah tetapi dikendalikan oleh Mahkamah Sivil.
Tidak perlu dicatatkan didalm kad pengenalan seseorang Muslim bahawa ia beragama Islam.
Orang bukan Islam tidak perlu dikehendaki menagnut agama Islam sekiranya ingin berkahwin dengan orang Islam. Orang Islam hendaklah dibenarkan keluar daripada Islam (murtad) sekiranya ingin berkahwin dengan orang bukan Islam tanpa boleh dikenakan apa-apa tindakan undang-undang.
Seseorang atau pasangan suami isteri yang menukar agamanya dengan memeluk agama Islam tidak patut diberikan hak jagaan anak.
Orang-orang bukan Islam yang mempunyai hubungan kekeluargaan dengan seseorang yang memeluk Islam hendaklah diberi hak menuntut harta pusakanya selepas kematiannya.
Kerajaan hendaklah menyediakan dana yang mencukupi untuk membina dan menyelenggara rumah-rumah ibadah orang bukan Islam sebagimana kerajaan menyediakan dana yang serupa untuk masjid.
Orang-orang bukan Islam hendaklah dibenarkan dan tidak boleh dihalang daripada menggunakan perkataan-perkataan suci Islam dalam percakapan dan sebagainya.
Bible dalam bahasa Malaysia dan Bahasa Indonesia sepatutnya dibenarkan untuk diedarkan kepada umum secara terbuka.
Pelajaran agama bukan Islam untuk penganut agam itu hendaklah diajar disemua sekolah.
Program-program berunsur Islam dalam bahasa ibunda sesuatu kaum hendaklah ditiadakan. Program dakwah agama lain selain Islam pula hendaklah dibenarkan untuk disiarkan dalam bahasa ibunda masing-masing.
Orang-orang Islam yang membayar zakat tidak sepatutnya dikecualikan daripada membayar cukai pendapatan dan wang hasil zakat sepatutnya digunakan juga untuk keperluan orang-orang bukan Islam.
Sepatutnya Islam tidak disebut sebagai pilihan pertama masyarakat Malaysia seperti dalam soal pakaian menutup aurat kepada pelajar sekolah.’
re: “Orang-orang Islam yang membayar zakat tidak sepatutnya dikecualikan daripada membayar cukai pendapatan dan wang hasil zakat sepatutnya digunakan juga untuk keperluan orang-orang bukan Islam.”
According to what Bangkit said above a Muslim pays zakat ONLY (and is exempted from income tax) and as we know, zakat is only used for the Muslim community …
… whereas a Malaysian belonging to the other religions pays income tax and his tax is used for state purposes – which includes for Islamic institutions/buildings and activities as per article 12(2) …
then it’s not fair, is it?
Thus I said again and again, Islam is the Religion of the Federation. So you see, why it is not fair, to begin with?
For one, other religion are not even mentioned in the Federal Constitution. Atheists are not even welcomed in this part of the world, so to speak. So there you go.
Yes, religion-to-religion comparison favouring Islam are described in the rest of the 13 points, like how there are Agama classes in the school curriculum but no Buddhism/Hinduism classes, like how there are Islamic dakwah programmes over TV and radio but not for other religions, etc.
But income tax payment is a purely secular matter!
‘But income tax payment is a purely secular matter!’
The country is NOT! Look at Putrajaya town building and architectural works! For once the Istana Kehakiman was facing directly towards the Masjid besi, facing the kiblah. I bet you don’t know this either?!
re: “I bet you don’t know this either?!”
No, I wasn’t aware. Was it Dr M’s decision?
I don’t know. Maybe you could ask him? He might answer you like last time.
Like I said, Dr M extended a grave courtesy which Wong Chun Wai failed to display in the case of Tan Sri Zam.
For the Tan Sri, who was Tokoh Wartawan Negara (2006), to be dismissed by The EvangeliSTAR as a nameless “blogger” is just too much. It goes to show the level of Penang-Chinese-Christian Johnny-Come-Lately arrogance.
Maybe it is arrogance. Maybe Wong Chun Wai thinks he is more kaya and more influential than the retired Menteri, being selected by the PM etc. theStar is not known to practice anonymity out of respect as in the case of naming Utusan and the recently Malaysia to NZ defence attache.
theStar the only paper that had choose to playdown Siti Nurhaliza’s wedding by refusing to front page it simply because she being an SPM holder kampung Malay girl made big. Very big!
But the paper quick to front page a Cina proposing to another Cina for a marriage on a billboard. What else so special about the Cina guy again despite the expensive stunts? Nothing. So there you go.
theStar is too Cina centric. Sorry I can’t stand it, it has became weird too with spreads promoting the Halloween that is alien to us here. We already had Hungry Ghosts celebration don’t we?
re: “Maybe Wong Chun Wai thinks he is more kaya and more influential than the retired Menteri”
Utusan has not been profitable in ads and vendor sales whereas The J-Star enjoying very lucrative revenue.
WCW’s executive director fee for sitting on the Star Board is said to be RM2 million per annum. Itu belum kira lagi gaji bulanannya sebagai CEO serta dicampur sekali dengan bonus melambak-lambak yang dibayar oleh suratkhabarnya itu.
re: theStar is too Cina centric.
Of course. The paper is majority owned by MCA which is ‘Cina centric’.
Ya lor kepala dia sudah besar! BTW Helen, Istana Kehakiman google maps, zoom out if you must…
On another note, have you read the piece by Nathaniel Tan on MB Khalid? I can see what being written. PKR and PR simply don’t walk the talk. Good politician is a bad one. A goody to shoe like Khalid, simply won’t last. And why do they want us to ubah BN again?
Yes, I thought it was an insightful article.
The oppo people have been calling Nat Tan a traitor to the cause and saying he’s writing like this now only out of spite after losing his job with the Selangor state government.
re: “Istana Kehakiman was facing directly towards the Masjid besi, facing the kiblah”.
What about the law that is being practised in the Istana Kehakiman and the Judges? Are they civil or islamic laws?
the highest law of the country says, Islam is the Religion of the Federation. Which part of it you can’t understand again?
Exactly. It was the FedCon that protects the position of Islam. Not the other way round. If not for FedCon, Islam will not have such position in Msia.
If the highest law of the land is man-made and the syariah law of Allah derives its legitimacy in Msia under the FedCon, how do you define Msia? Secular or Islamic? Or hybrid?
re: other religion are not even mentioned in the Federal Constitution.
Wrong. The FedCon clearly says that other religion may be practised.
What do you mean by “Atheists are not even welcomed in this part of the world”. As far as I am aware, being an Atheist is not an offence in Msia.
Does it say what religion? No. That was my point!
I would agree with the point made by islam1st.
Islam is specified in the Constitution.
On the other hand, the Constitution does not mention by name Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism or other faiths.
islam1st and Helen,
No doubt other religion is not specified in the FedCon. But the word ‘other religion’ is wide enough to cover Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism or other faiths. Anyway, my point is the FedCon recognised the rights of other religion to be practised in Msia.
re: “Anyway, my point is the FedCon recognised the rights of other religion to be practised in Msia.”
Why wouldn’t Malaysia recognise the rights of other religions to be practised here? We’re not a totalitarian state.
FedCon allows the authority to limit such rights, i.e. to prevent the proselytisation of Muslims. As per the Federal Court decision of Allah case, it looks like the minister may impose restrictions on non-Islamic religions without having to proof proselytisation. Alleging ‘confusion’ is enough.
Given what you say, how far would you put our hybrid FedCon along the secular or Islamic scale?
‘But the word ‘other religion’ is wide enough to cover Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism or other faiths.’
Says who? Says you!
The Federal Constitution does not say so. It appears mute on religion other than Islam. We can also read it as officially not recognising the religion other than Islam. But of course we can argue till the cows come home and not agree with one another.
I would also read that the religion other than Islam can ONLY be practised ‘in peace and harmony’. which is not the case, these last few years with evangelistas running wild!
re: We can also read it as officially not recognising the religion other than Islam.
What you mean by ‘not recognising’? In what context? As far as the wording of the FedCon is concerned, other religion may be practised in peace and harmony. You have acknowledged the same. No body denies that Islam is the religion of the Federation. The wording is clear. But it does not mean that anything which is unIslamic is illegal in Msia. Eg. non Islamic religions like Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism or other faiths.
Same for things like gambling, alcohol manufacturing and riba based banking. These are no doubt haram in Islam but not specifically mentioned in any part of the FedCon as legal or otherwise. Does it mean that these industries are illegal?
re: “But it does not mean that anything which is unIslamic is illegal in Msia.”
Wouldn’t you interpret the Court of Appeal judgment as saying that the use of the “Allah” word by the Herald goes against the allowance for Christianity to be “practised in peace and harmony” (quoted phrase contained in Article 3, FedCon) because it may give rise to public disorder?
‘Same for things like gambling, alcohol manufacturing and riba based banking. These are no doubt haram in Islam but not specifically mentioned in any part of the FedCon as legal or otherwise. Does it mean that these industries are illegal?’
Lets just say that the Muslims, over here, are wayyyyy generous!
re: Lets just say that the Muslims, over here, are wayyyyy generous!
Why sidestep my question?
I would say the existence of industries like gambling, alcohol manufacturing and riba based banking are due to the ‘generosity’ of the FedCon. Not the generosity of Muslims. No doubt FedCon may be amended to outlaw these ‘sinful’ industries. But it will not happen.
FYI, Muslims may even use riba based banking and this is perfectly legal even though the teaching of Islam said haram.
Got my point?
But i pay both tax and zakat. Fair atau tidak.
More than fair :)
re: “Orang-orang Islam yang membayar zakat tidak sepatutnya dikecualikan daripada membayar cukai pendapatan dan wang hasil zakat sepatutnya digunakan juga untuk keperluan orang-orang bukan Islam.”
Certain churches force their attendees to give 10% of their earnings. To may this is even higher than Income tax for the lower brackets.
How many percent is zakat towards yearly income? Very small, unlike the Lembaga Hasil Dalam Evengelista. A full 10%. No deduction for kids, wife, OKU etc.
If the sheeple, whose income is RM10k say, dutifully forks over RM1,000 every month (the 10% tithe) to the evangelista church, then the brainwashing must be very effective indeed.
Now imagine this kind and level of mind control applied over our opposition political landscape.
How about sheeples who are told what they can or cannot believe from birth, not giving them a choice at all?
Yes, I definitely feel this isn’t fair and it’s an issue that will cause resentment among the non-Muslims in the long run. That Islam is the official religion of the country should not be invoked to justify this act. I, as a Muslim, am ashamed. Muslims who pay zakat got exempt from income tax proportionate to the amount of zakat they pay. Non-Muslims don’t enjoy this but tax money paid by non-Muslim is used for “Islamic” purposes with impunity.
Are we Muslims not ashamed? No doubt, donations to certain non-Muslims charitable organization also got tax exempt but so do donations to certain Muslim charitable organizations. The imbalance is still massive.
Zakat money should be used for Islamic projects to ensure its purity, to a certain extent, even though 100%. Tax money must be used for common purposes (which includes funding for Bumiputras’ special privileges). Actually there’s enough zakat money to support Islamic projects 100%, especially for Islamic schools, mosques and dakwah activities but sadly, all zakat authorities brag about how much zakat money they have accumulated over the years when zakat money must be zerorized every year so that rewards from Allah (pahala) for contributors could multiply. And zakat money will not dry up, believe me!
But the worst part is, I heard [not verified], in Selangor, 80% of those who received zakat aids are not qualified/deserving.
Pergi mampos lah kau Ramasamy ****** ****** tak sedar diri.
Tambysamy blowing hot air thru his ass, dia ni nak copy style tamil movie ler, typical lah indian guy with a bit of clout given to him by the chinaman would want to model himself as the Rajinikanth of Penang.
And who is this “we’re scared” ……spirits of Mount Eskrine.!
Only way to discribe this so called professor India Bodoh.
Helen, allow me to rephrase my earlier comment .
You Ramasamy, and your chinese chauvinist DAP BANGSAT can go to HELL.
How’s that Helen? :-)
Wow itu tamby ramasamy cakap banyak sombong kalau jadi betul ini lah orang pertama yang akan cabut hilang kemudian bila keadaan dah normal mula buka cerita spin sana sini, lepas tu si bahalol penyokong mereka akan percaya, selalu begini la cara DAP hidup, dulu 13 mei saya ingat lagi bila berlaku semua pemimpin DAP entah pi mana yang berbunuh si bangang orang-orang bawahan rakyat biasa yang kena spin jadi mangsa, kemudian bila nomal baru nampak muka kemudian nak salah orang lain, daiii!!! pooorah!!!
‘Wow itu tamby ramasamy cakap banyak sombong’
Dia sama RAYER celaka p.dog banyak sangat tengok cerita Kollywood!
Demi Ramamadhan Mubarak, i’ve had to seriously water-down my language.
This is the end product of an unbridled immigration engineered by the british.
All other countries in the world get to choose who to give citizenship to but we were not. We did not get artists, poets & intellectuals but rather the opposite end.
Being nice & tolerant malayans that we are, we elect them as leaders for the sake of nation building. Alas, they cant help being themselves & sometimes it shows.
How true the adages of old;
1. you can take the boy out of the farm;
2. biting the hand that feeds you;
3. let sleeping dogs lie;
4. an eye for an eye.
This Dr Ramasamy openly supports the LTTE (the Tamil Tigers) – the renown terrorist group – on his FB page.
When Lim Sian See called him out on this, she got banned from his page as did many of her friends who questioned him.
So much for a “Democratic Action Party” huh? As in, action as democratic only but in reality?
Norman Fernandez is better off leaving – I would suggest to him to set up a party on his own, I’m sure it will be a better alternative!
The death of the Great Soul, Mahatma Gandhi – Father of the Ahimsa (non-violence) Independence movement for democratic India, at the hands of Brahmin aggressors.
Depa ni pun rata rata dia kacau. Di Afrika (Uganda) dia kacau; di Fiji dia kacau, di Sri Lanka dia kacau, di India sendiri pun dia kacau. Di negara ini lagi lagilah.
Tengoklah sejauh mana Rama2samy ni nak pergi.
‘Tengoklah sejauh mana Rama2samy ni nak pergi.’
Dia sudah kena tinggal kapal!
‘DAP vice-chairman Teresa Kok said Dr P. Ramasamy’s response to Muhyiddin, who had reportedly warned that the deadly inter-ethnic clashes could happen again, was unwise and should not have been said.’
‘PKR vice-president Nurul Izzah Anwar said the Batu Kawan MP’s remarks were “rather hasty and unnecessary”.’
memang sah politicians are all the same. dua2 pemerintah, bezanya satu dari federal & lagi satu dari negeri. anyway, part of the statement made by the penang’s dcm i.e. ‘this will be the first time the government starts May 13’. so, who started the riot?
Well just hope this fella don’t follow the late Bala style.. Create all nonsense and quietly disappear with his family to you all know where la..
Later, crept back to sue for RM@&#$*# as compensation for having to live in forced self exile.
saya teringat seorang presiden dengan angkuhnya berkata “Bring it on!” dan sehingga kini negaranya masih berdepan dengan kemelut di Iraq. Dr Rama ini percakapannya senada dengan presiden itu. Persoalannya sanggupkah Dr Rama menerima padahnya jika ada pihak menerima cabarannya?
ramasamy really know how to fix a broken mp3, my salute.
HY. Your salute is worthless.
Hua Yong. Don’t you think the signature is very artistic?
I find it somewhat weird to see an Indian talking so emotionally about 13 May.
IMO, his boss the CM is using him. At least he didn’t need to have his boss standing behind him to take over in case he mess up like LKS had to do with Dyana. Or did he? Didn’t watch the press conference.
Well at least LGE had tactics passed down from his father unlike DS Najib.
re: IMO, his boss the CM is using him.
Just like he used Rayer (now vulnerable with the Don dead).
Seems like Tokong’s manipulative towkay mentality is showing in how he relegates the dirty work to the klinga kia and then sits back to watch the fireworks gleefully one minute and then feign pity on them the next – while exploiting the issue to the max.
So predictable yet these fools have no choice but to toe the line and chiak sai or risk falling out of favor with the Tokong.
Tokong has already gone through 2 Malay DCM 1’s. Ramasamy has somehow survived the purges but could be Tokong is getting tired of this “or kau” and the one in Delima and is thinking maybe the color contrast at Komtar is too stark and needs more uniformity.
With Tokong, its never about race, just performance or the lack of it – or so he will say if he kicks Ramasamy out on his ass and replaces him with a Chinese DCM2.
If so, padan muka.
Just remember Mr. R…… Dont show your stupidity… or your “braveness” simply because you think that you are strong enough.,.. and got the support of every non-Muslim Malaysian….. Remember your late Chairman…. “Over my dead body… if wanted to implement the Hudud….” Now what happened? Its not the matter of over or not….but now there was a body… and whose body is it?
RE: Ustaz Mohd Hazizi, ahli exco Isma, berkata:
“…tiada ruang bersangka baik untuk DAP. Mana-mana jamaah Islam yang bersangka baik dengan DAP, sedangkan dasar perjuangannya kekal untuk meruntuhkan premis Islam bernegara di negara ini, maka tamatlah peranannya sebagai jamaah Islam kerana kebutaan terhadap musuh Islam, bahkan bersekongkol menjayakan agenda musuh. Ia hanya menipu masyarakat dengan imej Islamnya.”
Surely this official ISMA statement must be directed at the PAS ulama – political allies of the DAP in the “New Politics” of Mujahid Yusuf Rawa.
‘……But how can Umno do anything when among the ranks of the Umno Cabinet Ministers, you have Dapster Khairy who has a Scissorati press secretary?…….’
Itulah sebab semakin hari semakin ramai Melayu Islam yang menyokong ISMA dan Perkasa.
Mereka telah hilang kepercayaan dengan kebolehan UMNO mempertahankan agenda agama, bangsa dan negara.
Jangan terkejut dalam menghadapi PRU 2018 badan bandan NGO ini menjadi parti politik mewakili Melayu Islam!
KJ adalah ‘gone case’ Saya yakin dia menyertai UMNO bukan kerana alif, ba, ta, tapi jalan singkat untuk jadi PM termuda di Malaysia malah di dunia. Kahwin lagi dengan anak PM ketika itu!
Tapi dengan keadaan UMNO kini, entah lah tercapai atau tidak hasrat KJ.!
Saya tidak kesah kalau UMNO lingkup asalkan kuasa dominan politik masih di tangan Melayu Islam!
Saya juga amat bersyukur kalau ISMA dan Perkasa atau yang sekelas dengannya menjadi wadah alternatif Melayu Islam. Saya yakin KJ tidak akan ‘sebulu’ dengan golongan ini!
Tapi kalau PR yang ditakdirkan menang, ( NAUZUBILAH MIN ZALIK ) bersedia untuk meneri KJ sebagai PM. Saya memang tidak Nampak tokoh Melayu yang berkelibar dan popular selain Anwar.
Pada tahun 2018, Anwar sudah jadi surat khabar lama, Sudah Tua!
Jadi KJ yang sesuai dinobatkan sebagai PM oleh Lim dinasti.
Orang Cina memang praktikal. Dia tahu agak sukar bagi kaum Cina diterima masyarakat majority sebagai PM Malaysia.
So, why not, lantik boneka Melayu jadi PM ( macam kes Nizar di Perak ) dan The Cinabeng ( Lim dinasti ) menjadi ‘the real power behind the throne”
Bijak, bijak! lebih bijak dari KJ
A mamak on Mashable, haters eat your heart out! [YouTube]
[deleted] ..Bring it on Dap!!
careful what you wish for ramasamy. only stupid malays believe that your message is delivered to umno people only. whereas we know that it is targeted towards the Malay masses.
Po da lu, ******. hindu memang macam tu. Kuat gempaq keling. TPM was cautioning bukan challenging. Benggong punya hindu. Punya nak bodek
Look at Norman Fernadez rantings on LKS.
(from Liew Chin Tong FB)
LKS is called a penis by Norman. A penis hahaha. And LCT… a pig.
Ms H. Do you know how long is 48 years ? The DAP was founded in 1966 by the retreating PAP. It is 2014 today. Do the supporters of the DAP realise that TIME AND TIDE WAIT FOR NO MAN OR WOMAN ? Are they prepared to wait for another 48 years ? For what ? Making a nuisance of themselves – these people who never DIE !
‘Making a nuisance of themselves’
Soon they will die and forever become the curse of the nation!
Ms H. DAP has got strength in numbers but no brains !
The “political correctness” paradigm which they have adopted is a manifestation of the “cultural marxism” which has left the US social fabric tattered and torn. At best it is highly polemicized thinking; worst still it is downright politicking. How are the rakyat to be served by feeble intellects and ideologues with vested interests?
Ms H. The DAP could not even conquer Putrajaya in 3 EASY STEPS !
1. In 1997, if the DPM had taken a holiday in Disneyland, he would have returned as the Honourable Prime Minister. ONE EASY STEP
2. In 2008, if the 32 seats had been sorted out BEFORE the 12th General Elections and not AFTER, the DAP would have won 2 General Elections by now. ONE EASY STEP.
3. In 2013, if the DAP had declared a 100 day fast and boycotted the 13th General Elections, the BN would have won 100% of the seats with 47% of the general votes. The World would have condemned this and they would have been in Putrajaya for over 13 months. ONE EASY STEP. See how the Thais do it !
When a party like DAP is loaded with free-loaders like the smelly HY, what do we expect ?
Ms H. The only recourse is for the DAP to revert back to little pin pricks hopefully to irritate the BN to take a wrong step. As I said before, as long as the BN follows the Rule of the Laws, implements policies that are fair and transparent. maintains a bureaucracy that is normal and eschews from doing business with the GLCs, THERE IS NOTHING THE DAP CAN DO UNTIL THE 14TH GENERAL ELECTIONS ! Smelly HY or no smelly HY !
The P(censored)Mak artist from Penang is revealed.
Is he an evangelista (from photo)?
Saya ada 1 soalan. Dia ni dari SK atau SRJK ? Ada orang boleh bagi jawapan ?
I find this tweet from Ong kean Ming about Puasa very insulting.
I find EVERYTHING to do with OKM relating to puasa insulting!
Me too. Especially with the Insya Allah bagai! Enough of the mocking OKM, we know what are you!
Wonder 83 strong MP’s and one state rule they got for free why the whole bunch still bearing an agitated stale of mind seolah-olah dirasuk hantu jembalang tragidi 13 Mei neither of them were around or took part I supposed except one and only stalwart none other than melancholic LKS and….
Ms H. I look upon the whole DAP antics as a charade which only the unaware take notice. The dressing up in unfamiliar costumes, trying to hoodwink courteous hosts or hostesses, making absurd suggestions like fasting for solidarity etc. WHY DID’NT THE DAP DO THIS BEFORE 48 YEARS AGO INSTEAD OF THEIR DIVISIVE MALAYSIA FOR MALAYSIANS SLOGAN ? WHY NOW ? Now over 40% of the Singaporeans want ‘ SINGAPORE FOR SINGAPOREANS.’ I suppose DAP has not heard of the saying what goes round comes around !
‘WHY DID’NT THE DAP DO THIS BEFORE 48 YEARS AGO INSTEAD OF THEIR DIVISIVE MALAYSIA FOR MALAYSIANS SLOGAN ? WHY NOW ?’
Good one AK, these bunch of kakis are coming from calling for no baca doa in SK to puasa soldarity. Wawawa. The big question is, why now? DAP sudah insaf, I don’t think so! Not in a million years! Sorry OKM its not working for me!
islam 1st. These DAP fellows are only delivering pin-pricks which they have done all these 48 years. What a pollitical party ! At best, these are just social workers just like TSLLThye ! And the revulsion and disdain they have caused is all the more laughable in Tanah Melayu. If only the mindless mass of these very young folks stop to ponder what actually they are doing and how their present actions fit into the pantheon of Malaysian history. Look at the money and time wasting Bersihs. All came to nought. And now the Opposition are fighting amongst themselves all over INSTEAD OF SOUGHTING OUT THE RAKYAT’S PROBLEMS WHICH ARE JOBS AND INCOME ! Don’t ever listen to them !
islam1st. Again the once not ennobled Indian lady is playing with new NGOs having failed with the Bersihs. I really do not understand the rationale behind all these ‘MIDDLE INCOME GROUP TYPE ‘ of expressing themselves. Why did’nt they do this last year ? Please remember the 1969 caper involved NO MIDDLE INCOME GROUP ONLY THE WORKING/MANUAL GROUP and gangsters.
Ms H. It is indeed remarkable that an aged DAP leadership could be like the Pied Piper of Hamelin and led these enchanted fakes with their cohorts or digits to batter their heads or numbskulls against odds which are stacked up against them. As the tide of opportunity to conquer Putrajaya weakens, and with a brainless leadership, we can only see more and more pin-pricks or nit-picking as time passes by. What a waste of talent for the National Effort ! Precious young energy being utilised for NOTHING ! Even in Singapore, over 40% of the population now shout increasingly, ‘Singapore for Singaporeans.’ But here, we have only 20% in a half empty glass doing so.
Haters will hate!
“7. Dan saya bersetuju dengan pendapat pakar-pakar orang cina dari SERI dan RAM Holdings. Orang yang tidak ada kualiti tidak ada tempat di Malaysia kita yang Merdeka. Mereka harus tahu nikmat kemerdekaan bukan untuk mereka. Nikmat ini hanya untuk yang mempunyai merit walaupun orang cina tidak berjuang langsung untuk membebaskan Malaysia dari penjajah.”
Let’s see LKS jumping up and down screaming Racist! at TDM.
Orangkampung. I support you ! All these elected representatives at the State and Federal level are paid handsomely by the Government. They have a vested interested to do the most zaniest things to show their ignorant supporters that they are doing a good job which is provocative and intimidating. If they are not, why are they in DAP ?
Sudah beberapa kali saya dah komen, tahap pemahaman BM dan BI kebanyakan Apek2 Dapsters amat memilukan. Dalam article blogger DrMiM gitu jelas kita lihat macam mana LKS translated what was said by our TPM.
Malaysian Mandarin dan bahasa2 ibunda lain kaum Cina biasanya bila buat direct translation perkataan tersebut perlu disusun kalo tidak terputar belit la jadinya. Tu pasai saya amat seghiau bila Teresa Kok cuba memandai2 keluarkan apa saja dari mulut dia, seram sejuk pasai pronunciation dia macam pelat budak 4 tahun.
Kalo India pula they rolling rolling non-stop.. siapa tak tersasau bila dengar mereka cakap. Hissshh ghaku diri Malaysians dan puluhan tahun Merdeka apasal tak fasih dalam Bahasa Kebangsaan Negara sendiri nih?
Saya masih tak faham kenapa Malaysian Chinese namakan Malaysian Mandarin sebagai bahasa ibunda mereka.
Masa adik2 serta anak2 sedara belajar kat SJKC, ramai rakan2 Cina depa tak tau cakap atau tulis dalam Bahasa Malaysian Mandarin. TokNek MakAyah mereka pon ramai yang tak pi sekolah SJKC tak tau dan tak faham..
Pi Beijing pon kena adjust2, teliang dan pedo baru selesa berkomunikasi. Yang mai Malaya dulu dan di beri kerakyatan Malaysia lepaih kemerdekaan, berapa kerat sangat yang asal dari Peking/Beijing. Jadi depa ni semua duk belajar bahasa ibunda siapa sebenarnya owh?
The Chinese writing/script (hanzi) is standardized across dialects.
e.g. parallel to English
“duty” (spelled D-U-T-Y) might be pronounced “doody” by Americans, “dewty” by the British, and perhaps slightly differently in the Welsh, Scottish or Irish accents.
‘“duty” (spelled D-U-T-Y) might be pronounced “doody” by Americans, “dewty” by the British, and perhaps slightly differently in the Welsh, Scottish or Irish accents.’
I disagree. Mandarin and Hokien sounds different. Some words are similar but not all. Kantonis sounds quite distinctive too. The South speaks differently than the North. Only in Malaysia, with Dong Zong institutionalized racism subsidized by the Malay Gomen, Cinas speak Mandarin. Kat China dulu tok nenek depa mana belajar, kerja maa, hidup susah maa, bukannya taraf2 mantrin semua!
Whereas English is standardized through out. Americans, Britishs and Australians all speaks the same language, English, with very minor spelling differences.
China 中国, it’s spelled in standardized pinyin as zhong guo
国 country is pronounced in Mandarin as – sounds like – kuor
Hokkien – kok
Cantonese – kwok
Hakka – koek
The writing is one. As to pronunciation, the Mandarin, Hokkien, Cantonese, Hakka speakers would still be able to make out when the other dialect speakers say this word.
Just like someone in Manhattan would be able to make out someone in Brisbane pronouncing the word “mait” in the Aussie drawl.
In reality Hockien, Cantonese and Mandarin share common characters but not common meaning.
” Mandarin and Hokien sounds different. Some words are similar but not all. Kantonis sounds quite distinctive too” – Islam 1st is right. He knows his Chinese well.
For example eat (verb) is 吃 in Mandarin. In Cantonese 食 is used as eat (verb). In Mandarin 食 is food (noun).
In Hockien, usage of のis used. (Pronounce ay) This is non existant in Mandarin or Cantonese but prevalent in Japanese. Instead the pronoun 的 is used which is not available in Hockien. (Hockien is propouned lay)
As in the swear phrase.
Damade is Mandarin.
Lay-ma-lay in Hockien.
No Cantonese equivalent.
男人 (is male in Mandarin( nanren) and Cantonese (lam yan) but ta poh is the word in Hockien.
To say Hockien, Cantonese and Mandarin is one is not true. Written text in Mandarin will seem strange if read in Cantonese or Hockien. Try reading aloud in Cantonese the subtitles of a Hockien show. You will get giggles.
This is like French and English. “Library” (English) is bookshop in French while biblotheque is library in French.
China is one of the biggest (landmass) countries in the world with a population of 1,351,000,000. Across so many provinces, needless to say, there would be dialect / regional differences.
re: “Written text in Mandarin will seem strange if read in Cantonese or Hockien.”
What you call the “written text” is hanzi, and the script is only one and uniform. If you speak American-English, or British-English or Australian-English, you still use only one and the same set of alphabets … A, B, C, D, E.
We use hanyu pinyin to render Mandarin pronunciation.
I – personally – agree that it does feel somewhat “strange”/kekok (to me) to render Hokkien or Cantonese pronunciation in pinyin. What the experts/grammarians will say about this, I don’t know.
But the writing is nonetheless CHINESE script. It is not called MANDARIN script. That why our schools are called Sekolah Rendah Jenis Kebangsaan (Cina) and not Sekolah Rendah Jenis Kebangsaan Mandarin.
It is SRJK(C).
We can use the other vernacular school to augment my illustration. In Malaysia, we have Sekolah Rendah Jenis Kebangsaan (Tamil). We do not have Sekolah Rendah Jenis Kebangsaan (Indian) or Sekolah Rendah Jenis Kebangsaan (Hindi).
It is SRJK(T).
Let’s take the example you cite 吃 “eat”. In Mandarin, it sounds like ch‘ih . In Hokkien, it sounds like ch’iah. They are not that different in sound as to make you mistake them for two different words when used in context, e.g. “Have you eaten yet?”
It’s like the “makan” in the BM pronunciation we’re taught in school, and “make” as pronounced by the Kelantanese.
Chinese is the language. Cantonese, Hokkien, Teochew, etc are the dialects.
I’m sure the trend in China, as it has been in Singapore, is towards homogenization and subsumed under Mandarin. With the writing/script being standard, it will be accomplished eventually over time.
Additional note on SRJK(T).
There are those like KJ John who insists he’s not “Indian” but a Malayalee. To him, Malayalees are not Indian.
I’m Hokkien. I’m Chinese.
A fella who’s Cantonese will admit he’s Chinese.
A Hakka, a Teochew, etc, will admit they’re Chinese.
I reckon that’s why vernacular schools for Chinese kids are SRJK(C) but vernacular schools for kids who can trace their forefathers to India are not called SRJK (I) but instead SRJK (T) specific to Tamils who admit they’re Indians.
I’m assuming that Tamil script is not standardized with Hindi script and nor with Punjabi script.
Herein lies the difference between the written form in China and the written form in India.
‘China is one of the biggest (landmass) countries in the world with a population of 1,351,000,000. Across so many provinces, needless to say, there would be dialect / regional differences.’
Thus the difference. The hanzi may be one, but my point is, Mandarin as a bahasa penyatuan for Malaysian Chinese is a new convention decided by some racist bigots at the expense of us all.
Just look at what have we become?!
re: “Mandarin as a bahasa penyatuan for Malaysian Chinese is a new convention”
Fair comment. I have no quarrel with what you say.
The way I look at it, those with money will send their children to private and international schools that teach in English. Those that barely get by will send their children to vernacular schools. It comes down to money. Money buys you the education you want for your kids. Thus money also perpetuates inequality among the Chinese in Malaysia.
I used to work in the banking and financial services sector, and mind you, I worked for a foreign bank, most of my Malaysian Chinese colleagues are those who got their education from private and international schools. Just like old times, just like British colonial times, those that got their education from English medium schools tend to benefit the most, and not just Chinese. The same applies to Malays and Indians as well.
there is such possibility but do u have any fact to substantiate this assertion? i would say it is more likely a natural development when kmt and ccp adopt mandarin as common language.
is kecek kelate a language by itself?
What’s inaccurate about the statement “Mandarin as a bahasa penyatuan for Malaysian Chinese is a new convention”? Is it unfair to say so?
KMT and CCP adopting Mandarin as common language isn’t all that long ago.
If you wish to dispute, then you’ll have to pin down islam1st on a date (year/period) as to when it is that he reckons Mandarin became the convention and whether there’s merit for him to apply the adjective “new” to the particular development along the timeline.
re: “is kecek kelate a language by itself?”
Depends on whether you think that the Kelantanese, like Penangites, believe they’re living in a country of their own separate from us.
did i say inaccurate? i said there is such possibilities, but since u seem to agree with 1st, i asked u a question. if u dun know, that is fine.
if u read 1st sentence in entirety, the date is quite clear, it is of course after kmt and ccp adopt mandarin as common language. my bone of contention is i believe it is a natural progress rather than to serve penyatuan.
if u read mulan that try to assert that our dielect is sort of diff language, i cite bahasa kelantan to imply the similarlity. not sure how penang as a country is relevant.
yr tone r combative. i hope you wont label me as whatever ster as justification
re: “yr tone r combative. i hope you wont label me as whatever ster as justification”
Your tone is more often than not insolent. You get what you give. // Obviously no, since you’re a PKR supporter.
re: “but since u seem to agree with 1st, i asked u a question. if u dun know, that is fine.”
islam1st stated: “Mandarin as a bahasa penyatuan for Malaysian Chinese is a new convention”. I have no issues with his statement. What’s your beef with what he said?
re: “the date is quite clear, it is of course after kmt and ccp adopt mandarin as common language”
Your date is clear enough. I had suggested that you clarify with islam1st as to the date (period) he had in mind when he said “new” convention.
re: “my bone of contention is i believe it is a natural progress rather than to serve penyatuan”
You disagree that Mandarin is a unity language?
re: “if u read mulan that try to assert that our dialect is sort of diff language, i cite bahasa kelantan to imply the similarlity”
I similarly cited the Kelantanese dialect. Isn’t it more relevant that you direct your query to Mulan?
i am perfectly fine if u wish to debate in a combative style, it is yr prerogative. n it’s very kind of u not to label me anything yet.
i know u have no issues with 1st statement, i therefore asked u a question. r u not capable of the common courtesy of reading before writing? n that’s the second time, i hope i dun have to repeat a 3rd time.
i think me n 1st r quite clear what period we talked about, u r one that confuse when he use the term ‘new’, u shd clarify with him, not me.
zzzzz i repeat again, there is such possibilities that mandarin is a unity language, but in our msia context, the impetus of penyatuan for chinese is we r chinese, they r malay n vice versa. dun forget u r one that very often use the term anglophile. it would be interesting to see how u could twist n spin on this one next.
if u insist penang is relevent, i can only say i respect yr interesting view.
re: “dun forget u r one that very often use the term anglophile”
I doubt that many readers would agree with you that I use the term Anglophile “very often”. The term I use very often is “evangelista”.
As for your “zzzzz” and saying “i hope i dun have to repeat a 3rd time” / “i repeat again” and the tone of the rest of your comment, they merely reflect who is being “combative” here.
‘He knows his Chinese well.’
Mulan, my Cina kawans kept bragging, telling me for the longest time that they can speak more than 5 languages!
BM, English, Mandarin, Hockien and Kantonis!
re: “5 languages! BM, English, Mandarin, Hockien and Kantonis!”
Yes, they are indeed linguistically gifted esp. if they’re vendors, traders or doing business where they are required to interact will a wide clientele.
…….The majority of immigrants were speakers of Hokkien (Min Nan), Cantonese, Hakka, Teochew, and Hainanese. In the 19th century, Qing immigrants to Malaya had no single common dialect and were mostly uneducated peasants, and they tended to cluster themselves according to the ethno-linguistic group, usually corresponding to their place of origin, and worked with relatives and other speakers of the same dialect.
In 1879, according to Isabella Bird, a visitor to the tin mining boomtown of Taiping, Perak, “five dialects of Chinese are spoken, and Chinamen constantly communicate with each other in MALAY, because they can’t understand each other’s Chinese”.
.. Source Wiki
Agreed. “five dialects of Chinese are spoken, and Chinamen constantly communicate with each other in MALAY, because they can’t understand each other’s Chinese”.
You will see the lowly educated Chinese like my mechanic, hawker will text each other in broken Malay. Not everyone can hanyu pinyin.
You need quite a lot of schooling to do hanyu pinyin.
‘ Chinamen constantly communicate with each other in MALAY’
The last wave of ‘pendatangs’ decided to have mandarin sebagai bahasa unity! Think Dong Zong, Hua Zong, Jia Zong and the likes!
So too for us in Malaysia..Dayak, kadazan, Melanau, Jakun, Bajau, Penan, Dusun, Melayu, Cocos, Jakun… 100s more ethnic races, “Bahasa Kebangsaanlah yang menyatukan kita semua, marilah amalkan ramai2.”
Years ago I heard similar song being played early in the mornings kat Indonesian TVs/ radios (sekarang tak tau la) and with 100s of ethnic bangsa and languages spoken there, Bahasa Indonesia menyatukan mereka semua.
This Malaysian Mandarin bukan le bahasa Ibunda mereka.. Just like Singaporean Mandarin tak ingat, was introduced in the late sixties dSingapore TO MENYATUKAN mereka2 ni (CHINESE) semua. Even today elderly Bais and India tho from India bila communicate use Bahasa Malaysia.
My point is, we are having serious miscommunication issues hence in many instances, creating so much TENSION in this country. Many Chinese and Indians here are not fluent, and many too tak faham Bahasa Kebangsaan yang boleh menyatukan kita semua. Are they of PATI origins?
Islam memerlukan ummat belajar membaca dan menulis jawi dan yg lebih baik lagi pemahaman etc bahasa Arab, kerana satu dunia kita MENGGUNA Kitab AlQuran yang sama (standadised). Untuk mengejapkan lagi kita hantaq anak2 attend special schools/classes.. TAPI bahasa Kebangsaan negara ini tetap diUTAMAKAN.
Tetapi Apek2 kat Negara ini lain sikit. Nak menyatukan dengan semua bangsa dalam Negara ini is not their main priority.. Sama2 Cina dulu, lepaih tu lantak le nak bahasa pasar ke, tak faham bahasa Kebangsaan itu bukan lagi masalah mereka.
Bangla mai sini hanya satu tahun ramai yang dah fasih. KENAPA gini?
I agree with Tan Sri Muhyiddin that Malaysia is about to experience its worst violent upheaval. .
The westerners may get what they had wished for soon! Get the camera rolling fast! Mr Lopez, by any chance you will be parachuting in, then?
I have prepared this reply to IT.Scheiss but Zam’s blog’s comment section could not accommodate because it’s to lengthy …….a newspaper, being pro-opposition and advancing the opposition’s agendas AND subverting its owner and subsequently, the nation are 2 different things. The former, although generally acceptable, is perfectly fine to me, if, and only if, objectivity is maintained. National newspapers serve to educate the masses, not to poison their minds, especially in a nation like ours, where the level of knowledge and civility is still disappointingly low.
He commented that; “anti-establishment stance could also be commercial (sic), since partisan political positions seem to sell papers and attract eyeballs [only eyeballs, not the hearts? In that case, it’s out of sight, out of mind] to websites”…”Today it seems that whilst The Star is owned by the MCA, but its editorial contents serve the interests of the DAP……..”……”Yes, it could set a firm and clear editorial policy, rein in the editors and require them to strictly abide by the editorial policy.”…..”However, the drawback here is that many of its readers will defect to the other publications, which the Star can ill afford….”
If the last part of his comment was true, then The Star readers must be a fickle bunch. But the worse and worst part is, they feed their souls with hate, nothing else. Without hate, nothing is worth reading.
Losing readership due to defecting readers is only a short term drawback but such fear (of losing readership for reasons espoused by The Star main people) only reflects the shortsightedness and lack of wisdom of the newspaper’s management. Newspapers that maintain balanced and objective views, i.e. willing to criticize its own patron or owner, where appropriate, even though with lower intensity, will prosper in the long term and will have longer profitable lives. As the population gets more mature, biased and sensational reporting will lose its appeal. But The Star wants it readers to remain immature and uncivilized forever.
However, in the case of The Star, it’s a straight forward case of evil minds at work. Minds full of racism, chauvinism, racism, bigotry, hatred AND all things ugly! Any other political parties would incur costs and suffer losses to maintain its mouthpiece so that its political agendas can be promoted and the party’s objectives achieved because a nationwide publication is among a political party’s most potent propaganda tool. What kind of a mind would kill its owner, purportedly for profitability sake but actually, to advance the agendas of its owner’s nemesis?
The real, simple and straightforward truth here is that the MCA is working hands in glove with the DAP via the Star to achieve the common Chinese and evangelists’ chauvinistic, racist and bigoted, among others, objectives. That’s why the MCA is willing to self-destruct or sacrifice itself. Ultimately, when those objectives are achieved, both parties will merge or either one dissolved, its members crossing over to the side of their co-conspirators.
In a society like ours, where the religious, racial and cultural mix, is volatile, a seemingly benign issue can become very explosive if not properly handled, even if innocently. Knowledge and wisdom are required. And there are issues that are untouchable as far as public discourses are concerned but they can be discussed through proper channels in responsible ways. This way calls for plenty of patient, wisdom, honesty and sacrifices. And finally there are issues that are totally beyond reproach, totally non- negotiable. Unfortunately, the second and third type of issues are the management of the Star is making its staple diet of and has been tossing those issues about in the most irresponsible of manners.
The Chinese and evangelists are probably emboldened by PM Najib’s total inertia and supports from those so-called liberal Muslims, led by PAS leaders in general, followed by PKR. But their most vocal and tenacious supporters are none other than the “Songsang Twin” of Zainah Anuar and Marina Mahathir. In any issue at all, where Muslims are pitted against the nons, they both would get so hysterically worked up against the Muslims. To them, the MusIims can do nothing right as though they, the Muslims, have no right!
Ms H. Why don’t the fervent and die-hard supporters of the DAP wake-up and realise that they are just a group of social workers with a political bent. They are actually leaderless because the leadership could not think out options on how to gain power with their spiel, ‘ Malaysia for Malaysians.’ In Singapore, the refrain ‘ Singapore for Singaporeans ‘ is now often heard all over. What goes round, comes around !
maaf…saya tak faham kenapa semua bangsa kata muslims yg bayar zakat dikecualikan bayar cukai pendapatan…yg saya faham muslims yg bayar zakat akan dikurangkan cukai pendapatan dr amaun yg sepatutnya dibayar….mungkin dikira dr jumlah zakat yg dibayar…saya tak tao…dlm isalam ada mcm2 jenis zakat ada zakat pendapatan zakat simpanan zakat fitrah zakat perniagaan zakat emas dan perak yg dimiliki…zakat yg mana yg dikatakan dikecualikan dr membayar cukai pendapatan….zakat pendapatan cukai pendapatan pon kena bayar….
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