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Liow is unrealistic

Some questions with regard to Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai’s 722-word statement on the loss of MH17.

 

LTL: “officials in the US and the Ukraine have indicated that Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was shot down. Should this be confirmed, it would contravene international law”

Maybe so, but the alleged perpetrators are rebels (meaning of “rebel” — one who does not obey). Or if you wish, they are Christian terrorists too. How can LTL expect rebels/terrorists to adhere to the law, international or otherwise?

LTL: “an outrage against human decency”

Why are you parroting Obama’s words?

Malaysian Transport Minister Liow speaks during a news conference at a hotel near Kuala Lumpur International Airport in Sepang

LTL:Malaysia … calls for those responsible to be swiftly brought to justice.”

Who is Malaysia calling upon, specifically to catch the shooter(s) and bring him to justice? Is Hisham going to swiftly send an elite team of commandos to Ukraine in order to bring the culprit to justice?

 

LTL:It is essential that the integrity of the crash site be preserved, out of respect for the investigation and for those who have died.”

Is Liow appealing to the rebels to respect the air passengers whom they killed and arising out of this respect, to preserve the integrity of the crash site? Last reported by Liow’s own party-controlled paper, the crash site is being looted as we speak. So it appears that Liow’s appeal is most naive and unrealistic.

 

LTL:In total, 62 people – 30 SMART team members, 15 medical staff, 10 Royal Malaysia Air Force representatives, 5 Malaysia Airlines staff, 2 Department of Civil Aviation staff – are travelling to Kiev.”

These 62 people presumably have their designated jobs to do in Kiev. But what will Datuk Seri Liow – UKM Bachelor of Science (Nutrition) – be usefully doing in Kiev? Just wondering.

Full text of LTL’s speech in NST (18 July 2014)

(285 words)

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23 thoughts on “Liow is unrealistic

  1. I like your pic of LTL. Very J-Star style.

    I find his pc stressful. He sounds apologetic when he should be more firm. And did you notice he doesn’t know how to refer to the dead. He mentioned “human bodies”, “human remains” and a few other terms with the word “human”, as opposed to what?

    And he’s going to Kiiiiev, for what reason?

    I mean at least we know KJ is in Glasgow to lend moral support to the M’sian team, because you know, semuanya di sana dah patah semangat bila dengar berita MAS. Bagus jugalah KJ pergi awal-awal untuk beri semangat.

    1. re: “He mentioned ‘human bodies’, ‘human remains’ and a few other terms with the word ‘human’, as opposed to what?”

      He was a nutritionist by academic training and is very much into organic food. Dunno if this explains anything tho’.

  2. Ukraine Christian terrorists use bombs. Malaysian Christian terrorist use mouth and Jstar.

  3. Well just hope he rises to the occasion and help get justice for the victims n their families.

    Lost of lives is not something to joke around. Hope he will give his best.

    Probably someone like Zahid should go there instead of him….

  4. Great. Now Helen is the go-to expert on aviation incidents and terror attacks?

    Maybe the US NTSB, FBI and the Ukraine Civil Aviation authorities should ask Helen to teach them how such investigations should be carried out

    Heck – maybe she should even call up Putin and read him the riot act, seeing as how she believes that Minister LTL etc are a bunch of amateur pansies!

    1. Great. Now Helen can copypaste the aviation experts (like the ex-Qantas safety chief) that have been trotted out by the established papers such as the Sydney Morning Herald.

      I am functioning in my area of expertise … reporting and collating information.

      Am I any less knowledgeable than the UKM Bachelor of Nutrition who was made Transport Minister less than a month ago? What is Liow’s qualification in aviation incidents and terror attacks for him to be going to Kiev?

      re: “Maybe the US NTSB, FBI and the Ukraine Civil Aviation authorities should ask Helen to teach them how such investigations should be carried out”

      Since when am I trying to teach the FBI their job? My questions are directed at the federal minister representing the party that I voted for in GE13.

      As a member of the 10 percent Chinese constituency who cast my ballot for BN (in my voting district, it happens to be MCA), it is fully within my rights to question the job performance of the politician that Najib installed in his cabinet as representing the Chinese pro-establishment vote.

      re: “Heck – maybe she should even call up Putin and read him the riot act”

      Tsk, tsk, tsk. I’m a good writer but you sure are a lousy reader with poor comprehension skill. Where in my short write-up above have I indicated that I wish to pick a fight with Putin?

      I said LTL is beating his chest in futility by issuing ultimatums, like saying the rebels must obey international law and respect the integrity of the crash site, which he has no capacity to compel compliance.

      Your childish retort, Kineas, is hitting below the belt by making personal attacks mentioning me 4 times in 3 short paragraphs and very ridiculously linking my name to US NTSB, FBI, Ukraine Civil Aviation and Putin.

      Grow up and try to argue better. You’re showing yourself at par with the annoying fella who has been commenting here under the name of (fake) “Isma”.

      1. Postscript

        How is my discussing this issue in my blog any different from Lim Kit Siang demanding an emergency sitting on MH17 in Parliament?

        Is Kit Siang an aviation expert or are Tony Pua/Teresa Kok anti-terrorism experts? If they’re not, there is about as much point for the opposition MPs to be talking about this in Parliament as there is for us to be talking in this forum here.

        At least my blog for open public discussion doesn’t cost the taxpayer a single sen unlike LKS, Tony and Teresa whom the taxpayers are required to maintain in the 5-figures each every month.

        1. Well, Helen – Kit Siang and the others are elected MPs. And Parliament is the supreme forum in the country.

          So, yes – they have every right to ask that the MH17 incident be discussed in Parliament. Whether the Speaker will accept their request on grounds of public interest and urgency remains to be seen.

          I might also add that Kit Siang, Tony, Teresa etc had the guts to enter the political hustings, fight an election and win.

          Have you done likewise or do you believe that “freedom of speech” is your sacrosanct right as a card-carrying Malaysian?

          In that case, maybe you may want to tone down your “dissing” of those whose views you don’t agree with – including evangelistas and all.

          1. re: “they have every right to ask that the MH17 incident be discussed in Parliament”

            You raised the issue of “experts”. Fine, I’m not an aviation expert. Neither are Kit Siang, Tony, Teresa and the lot of them aviation experts either.

            So if I do not have the technical expertise qualifying me to talk about MH17, then neither do they.

            But if they have every right, as you say, to raise the MH17 issue in Parliament, then I too have every right to talk about MH17 in my blog.

            As elected representatives, their views are of importance to the general public … well, that’s fine with me. Who are you to determine whether my views of of any interest to my blog audience?

            re: “I might also add that Kit Siang, Tony, Teresa etc had the guts to enter the political hustings, fight an election and win. Have you done likewise …”

            So you’re saying that the DAP politicians have earned their right to speak and I need to do likewise (earn my stripes) by venturing into politics. Can I say the same to you?

            I have the guts to start my own blog so that I can have a public platform and I’ve had to fight off the harassment, threats, continuous slander and smear campaign targetted at me by the evangelistas and Dapster machinery. Do you?

            I’m just mirroring your challenge for me to have “the guts to enter the political hustings [and] fight an election”. And when you’ve matched me in blogosphere just like you’re challenging me to match Kit Siang, Tony, Teresa etc in the world of politics, then maybe I might lend more weight to your whining.

            If you think that I don’t deserve to voice my opinion, why don’t you venture into the blogging world and say whatever you want to say instead of dictating what I can or cannot say here in my own blog? As it is, you’re not even willing to divulge your real name or use your Facebook profile to comment.

      2. If I were to be rude, I could also ask what in Hishamuddin’s resume qualified him to be an Acting Transport Minister (MH370) or Defence Minister?

        Are our Ministers appointed to their portfolios on the basis of their qualifications, knowledge and work experience?

        Are you better qualified to navigate the seas of international law, aviation incidents investigations, jurisdictional responsibilities, terrorism concerns and international sensitivities?

        Is the Transport Minister supposed to be an expert in any or all of the above, or does he call upon the services of experts and professionals to advise him?

        Like when Obama or Tony Abbott opine – do they do that as experts in that particular field, or because they have a whole bunch of qualified experts and advisors to consult beforehand?

        1. re: “Are our Ministers appointed to their portfolios on the basis of their qualifications, knowledge and work experience?”

          Dr Chua Soi Lek was Health Minister and S. Subramaniam is the current Health Minister. Both are medical doctors.

          re: “Is the Transport Minister supposed to be an expert in any or all of the above, or does he call upon the services of experts and professionals to advise him?”

          So if you can give LTL the leeway to call upon the services of experts, why cannot I copypaste what the former air safety chief of Qantas said in his interview with Sydney Morning Herald? He’s the expert. I never claimed to be one. I was a journo. I’m reporting in my blog now. What’s your beef?

          1. You are twisting in the wind, Helen.

            So, according to your standards, is LTL a good Minister of Transport or a bad one?

            There – it can’t get any simpler, can it?

            Incidentally, there’s such a thing as “selective copypasting”. In other words, choosing what to quote in order to support your own views/agenda.

            And please don’t give the excuse that you are collating and reporting ” facts”. Just what are the facts in the MH17 crash?

            1. re: “You are twisting in the wind, Helen.”

              I stick to one name. Even in your self-identification in my blog, you twist from one pseudonym to another to another. Your current choice is most impudent.

              Are you badmouthing me in the other alpha blogs, btw?

              re: “So, according to your standards, is LTL a good Minister of Transport or a bad one?”

              I haven’t decided yet. After all, he’s been barely a month in the job. However, the newspaper owned by his party splashed on their front page that (1) He is weak
              (2) He is indecisive (3) He is not a fighter. See, http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/243707

              re: “Just what are the facts in the MH17 crash?”

              There are plenty of facts. Every one and his neighbour’s cat are collecting them.

              1. Oops, so I offended your feelings, izzit?

                Now, what’s so “impudent” about using the nick “Phallus Impudicus”? It’s not original – far from it. I borrowed it from Robert Galbraith’s latest book “The Silkworm”. A good read, if I do say so myself, though the crime genre may not be your cup of tea.

                Anyway, you went into a tizzy about SQ. To what purpose isn’t clear, because for all intents and purposes, SQ is doing better than MH, although it is facing competition from the likes of EK and the rest of the Gulf triumvirate.

                Next, you took on the job of “collating and copy pasting” the views of aviation industry analysts and experts. Which achieved what, precisely.

                The pundits agree (most of them anyway) that MAS is not to blame for the MH17 tragedy. Fingers are being pointed all over the place, but it remains to be seen if the victims receive justice in a fair and transparent manner.

                Now, it seems that we are debating about the current Transport Minister and if he’s up to the job. What yardstick are you judging him against – Hishamuddin’s handling of MH370?

                In MH17, the PM came in front and centre. Which is the way it should be.

                Unfortunately, the international media don’t have to kow-tow to Malaysian sensibilities and sensitivities. And threatening them with law suits isn’t going to work either, unless, like the PRC, you set up your own Internet and blocking mechanisms.

                1. re: “Oops, so I offended your feelings, izzit?”

                  You have still not answered my question whether you’ve been badmouthing me in the other alpha blogs?

                  re: “Anyway, you went into a tizzy about SQ.”

                  My posting on SQ totalled altogether 7 words: “So now the corridor is considered risky?”

                  You can have another look to refresh your memory, https://helenang.wordpress.com/2014/07/19/sq/

                  How is a 7-word posting to be considered getting “into a tizzy”?

                  re: “Next, you took on the job of “collating and copy pasting” the views of aviation industry analysts and experts. Which achieved what, precisely.”

                  Obviously I have to copypaste the views of the aviation experts since I’m no aviation expert. Do you think that a reporter who interviews a nuclear scientist himself holds a PhD in nuclear science?

                  re: “The pundits agree (most of them anyway) that MAS is not to blame for the MH17 tragedy.”

                  Nope. A significant number a questioning why a number of the major airlines like Qantas, British Airway, Cathay Pacific etc decided not to overflow the route that MAS took.

                  re: “Now, it seems that we are debating about the current Transport Minister and if he’s up to the job.”

                  He should be put under scrutiny considering that his own party-controllled newspaper splashed on its front page that he is “weak” and “indecisive”. Why do you seek to excuse him from being evaluated on his job performance?

  5. Give him a chance to prove that he’s better than Hisham on handling this Plane crisis. PS Between MCA and UMNO who’s better on handling crisis.

  6. Aiyo, his english very teruk lor. And yesterday, he was going Keef, Keef — cringe-making, didn’t even know how to pronounce Kiev. And why’s he adding “s” to lots of words?

    Should bring back Hisham for the pressers with foreign media around. We need someone with clear good English, otherwise we’ll have another Balotelli misunderstanding.

  7. The anarchists in BESIH demo are still walking free. The Lahad Datu invaders also no story now.

    The Filipinos kidnappers still not caught and still killing and kidnapping people.

    Dalam negeri pun tak boleh tangkap dan hukum orang ini pulak luar negara. Cakap tak serupa bikin!!!

    1. Oh dont forget Court hearing pun boleh di tunda beratus kali oleh Anwar. The only thing Ahjibgor punya goverment berani buat adalah tangkap KIKI dengan stering lock dia.

      1. Itupun entah akan ada apa-apa tindakan susulan selepas disoalsiasat ataupun senyap aje lepas ni.

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