It was Anwar Ibrahim who empowered the evangelistas. However with ketum now in jail, the beleaguered Islamists can start to lift the seige.
With this Malay protector of the evangelical Christians out of the picture, besieged Muslims can also begin the process of reclaiming their kalimah Allah.
Malays need to beat back the evangelistas.
In a 1991 issue of Muslim World, Vol. LXXXI: 61, Michael S. Northcott wrote:
“Giving a sense of power and destiny to predominantly Chinese Christians in an increasingly Islamic society, the movement has also led to an interest in Malay evangelism … Charismatic preachers emphasize the need to evangelize among all people, including Muslims.”
Muslims don’t object Sikhs using ‘Allah’, only object the Christians
Chiding the Christians for attempting to drag the other races and religions into their acrimonious fight over kalimah Allah, Prof. Dr Mohamed Ajmal Abdul Razak Al-Aidrus (pix below) remonstrated, “It must be emphasized here that Muslim objection to the usage is to Christians and not the Sikhs”.
Prof. Ajmal, who is with the International Islamic University’s (IIU) Istac campus, said that the ties of Sikhism to Islam meant that the two faiths had some religious terms in common and more importantly, both share the concept that God is One.
With regard to the Christians, he insisted that “the objection of Muslims is valid and reasonable and cannot be dismissed and ignored”.
Prof. Ajmal: Muslims suspicious of aggressive and confrontational Christians
The Muslim argument is that Allah is a proper name and hence cannot be used by Christians since their concept of God is the Trinity as opposed to Islam’s tauhid, said Prof Ajmal reiterating what many other scholars and authorities on Islam have already clarified.
Prof. Ajmal, who is the author of seven books on Islam, explained that if Christians are allowed to use kalimah Allah, then we would not be able to easily discern whether a particular message comes from the Bible or the Quran, and whether it is about Christianity or Islam.
“We have pointed out that ‘Tuhan’, a truly Malay word, is at their disposal; however, they insist on wanting to use the word Allah.”
“Muslims view the aggressive and confrontational position of Christians in addressing this issue, expressed through individuals representing various religious organizations and associations, with suspicion,” he added.
Prof. Ajmal: Little concern shown for sensitivity of majority
According to Prof. Ajmal, the kalimah Allah issue should have been handled with more tact instead of the “disturbing and alarming rhetoric in the media”.
Unfortunately, it has “exploded on to the public scene where little concern is shown for the sensitivity of the majority” and not to mention that “the issue has been made to appear in the media by Christians as an infringement on their right to practice religion”.
He reminds us, “If anything, the hype surrounding this Allah issue has made us more wary of the costs of thoughtless provocations and the fragile nature of multi-religious and multiracial societies”.
“We praise Allah for the peace we enjoy in our country, and we must not assume that playing up the sentiments of the public on a religious issue with not have dire consequences,” he warned.
Prof. Ajmal‘s 2013 monograph titled Christians in Search of a Name for God: The Right to Allah is billed as “the most comprehensive study to date on this controversial subject”.
Published under the Istac imprimatur, it “answers all the questions that Christians have raised and more”.
Nonetheless, Prof. Ajmal accedes that the definitive answers, as to why kalimah Allah is exclusive to Islam, appear still not to satisfy the Christians.
Sneaky Christians bluffing again
The Christians have repeatedly and loudly trumpeted that ‘Allah’ was used 400 years ago in the Malay Bible and quoting the date 1612.
Prof. Ajmal disputes the strength of this claim.
BELOW: Tweet by evangelista Datuk Lee Hwa Beng, a former three-term MCA Adun of Subang Jaya
It is the evangelical politicians who have been at the forefront of inflaming the fiery polemics.
History of the translation of the Malay Bible
1612: Gospel of Mark and Gospel of Matthew translated by trader Cornelius Ruyl of the Dutch East India Company (EIC)
NOTE:
Mark and Matthew are merely two books. The New Testament in the Bible has 27 books and the Old Testament has 39 books. The Protestant Bible has a total of 66 books, the Catholic Bible has 73 books while the Greek Orthodox Bible has 78 books. Therefore the two books of Mark and Matthew translated in 1612 made up only a small fraction of the whole Bible.
1629: The Gospels of Mark & Matthew printed in Enkhuysen
1638: The Gospels of Mark & Matthew printed in Amsterdam
1646: The Gospels of Luke & John translated by Rev. M. van Hassel, a director of the East India Company
1651: The four Gospels and the Acts of the Apostles published
1668: The complete New Testament translated by Rev. Daniel Brouwerious into Malay but using a lot of Portuguese loan words
1733: The first complete Malay Bible comprising the Old and New Testaments translated by Melchior Leijdecker
While it is true that the kalimah Allah was first printed in Malay translation 386 years ago (limited to the two books of Mark and Matthew), it was nonetheless translated by East India Company traders who were here in Nusantara as European colonizers.
And it was nowhere near being a complete Bible and one that was widely used by Malayan Christians because we’re really talking about a piece of Dutch work that was created for ‘Indonesians’ (and not for Tanah Melayu residents).
“No consent was given by the Muslims or sought by the colonizers to use the [Allah] word. They took as they desired and gave as they saw fit,” exclaimed Prof. Ajmal.
Hullo, who’s the one who is confused here?
It is Hannah Yeoh who’s one confused woman (see her tweet above) and it figures – given how she arbitrarily BLOCKS any contrary or dissenting views.
In his monograph, Prof. Ajmal proceeds to debunk some favourite arguments put forth by the Christians.
Whinge #1: But the Arab Christians say ‘Allah’ too
Yes, but Arab Christians and Arab Muslims use the word differently.
The Arab Christians use the word ‘Allah’ to mean God generally while Muslims – in Arabia and globally – use the word to call upon Him by name.
The Arab Christians say God the Father (Allah al-Ab), God the Son (Allah al-Ibn) and God the Holy Spirit (Allah al-Ruhul al-Quddus).
Between the Arabic language speakers themselves, there is an understanding of the different denotations.
Prof. Ajmal pointedly brought up the fact that the very vocal Bishop Paul Tan “does not have a congregation that consists of Arabs. However, the fervour with which he is fighting to use the word would make one think that he did”.
Whinge #2: ‘Allah’ is a Malay word what, our bahasa kebangsaan what
The Malays use the expression “Ya Allah Ya Tuhanku” – Oh Allah (proper name), Ye my God (noun).
Malays don’t say “Ya Tuhanku, Ya Allah”. This goes to show that ‘Allah’, which is a proper name, cannot be simply substituted to mean god as in a common noun.
In Malay, Allah is never translated. Allah is always Allah, now and for evermore.
Thus the excuse by the Christians – those who are non-native and non-Malay speakers (such as the Bishop Paul Tan) – trying to finagle kalimah Allah by pretending that they love our national language just doesn’t wash.
Prof. Ajmal suggests that if Christians were sincere about finding a solution to the impasse, they should consider the “more amicable options” with impeccable pedigree like Eloi, Eli, Eloah, Elohim, Yahweh or Jehovah.
Nonetheless, there is doubt as to their sincerity because Christianity is, after all, a proselytizing religion.
“The openly expressed statements of missionaries from the days of Albuquerque [Portuguese conqueror of Malacca in 1511] to the British about converting Malays bear testimony to this,” said Prof. Ajmal, reflecting on how “the intent was clear from the very beginning”.
Race between the Cross and the Crescent
Why this imperative to convert the Malays, you might ask?
G.E. Marisson, writing in The Muslim World quarterly journal Vol. XLVII: 296, said:
“Without the Malays, the Church of this land [Malaya] must ever wear an immigrant and foreign aspect; without the Malays, the Church cannot claim to be true to its universal message; without the Malays, we are only partially serving the ideal of the unity of all men in Christ”.
Prof. Ajmal noted that apart from Marisson, other reverends had arrived at the same conclusion too.
This is how I [this blogger] interpret it. The Church in the peninsula wants to shed its pendatang baggage and image. By snagging the Malays, the missionaries hope that Christianity can eventually acquire bumiputera status and be legitimatized to take its place as the religion of the land.
The lengths to which missionaries will go
Prof. Ajmal brought up the matter of the Christian leaders in the 1950s who had proposed to the Reid Commission that a secular state would ensure religious freedom for all and such implications stemming from the unfettered liberties.
As to what the Church elders had wanted from the Reid Commission, please refer to my earlier article, ‘Perjuangan gereja yang belum selesai mahukan Melayu diberi kebebasan beragama‘.
“We can see from this that no stone was left unturned to convert, and missionaries examined every facet of Malay life to influence their faith,” revealed Prof. Ajmal.
The tutup aurat facet of Malay life is appropriated by evangelista Hannah
Advantage to Christianity – Love, Game
- Churches have large funds at their disposal
- Chinese Christians can flex their economic muscle
- The evangelical movement is a counter to resurgent Islam
- They’re brimming with Love, their rival is painted as “extremists”
- Missionary work has made inroads in Indonesia
- The needy and the poor have been converted
Citing the writings of Michael S. Northcott, Prof. Ajmal comes to a conclusion that the Malay worry about apostasy is not imagined nor an exaggeration as we can all see how the evangelical movement has been successful in appealing to the youths through its “American oriented Western popular culture of the urban middle class with its pop music style”.
Zumba, zumba, zumba in the church
Clash of civilizations
The Muslim concern has a sound basis, said Prof. Ajmal, and “[t]hose who are familiar with Islam know fully well that the physical and intellectual clashes between Islam and Christianity are centuries old. In this region, conversion attempts have been going on since the 16th century”.
“If the evidence presented in this case stays antiquated, one could argue that Muslims are paranoid and suspicious. However, the more recent enunciation of Malaysian Christians about conversion and the aggressive nature of their stand cause even more reason for concern,” said Prof. Ajmal in his monograph.
“Akin to requesting the govt to sanction the Christianization of Islam”
The sneaky mis-translation in the Malay Bible is an invention of the European colonizers.
“The position of Muslims is not an emotional outburst,” averred Prof. Ajmal. It is instead the Christians who are making an unreasonable demand.
“This unreasonable demand of Christians, that is, to use the word Allah, is akin to requesting the government to sanction the Christianization of Islam. Hence we’re saying NO to the use of the word Allah by Christians because we place peace and harmony in this multiracial and multi-religious country above all else,” he said.
“Christians must not [feign] victimization by invoking Article 11, especially since this is not an issue about the prohibition of worship, when history bears witness that their designs are less than noble.”
~ YHWH ~
My name is Yahweh forever
In the Quran, God has described Himself as Allah while in the Bible, God named himself Yahweh.
Exodus 3:15
15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.
READ! Iqra!
God clearly said He is Yahweh. He said so a total of 6,807 times in the Bible! And that is exactly what Christians should call Him.
The evangelistas in Malaysia are blind and see not, deaf and hear not, and provocative and heed not.
Apasal dengan si evangelis yang bodoh sombong pelampau ni?!
You can buy Prof. Ajmal’s monograph at the Universiti Malaya bookshop, or at Istac, or order via email at kalimahallah2013@gmail.com.
There is also a Malay version, Mencari Nama Tuhan: Penganut Kristian dan Hak Penggunaan Kalimah Allah
Helen,
Whatever you said or any Muslim scholars views will be rejected by DAP and those submitting to it.
Par excellence Helen. I am truly disgusted with these people- hypocrites of the highest order.
Keyakinan dan kerperchayaan yang jitu , tidak akan berubah , hanya kerperchayaan yang berpura sahaja yang sangup merubah .
Very good write up Helen, might want this for your next sticky.
Ms H. The new Christians think they can run off to Western lands after creating all their nonsense in our beloved Malaysia. Stupid !
‘The new Christians think they can run off to Western lands after creating all their nonsense in our beloved Malaysia.’
Uncle ED, I say they should already!
Get Talent Corpse to find placements for them in Tasmania, at a fee of course.
Talent Corpse
Speaking of the devil (a bangang one that is) Helen, what do you think of this ad?? Tak RASIS ke??
http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/simgad/10465933105796392705
It reads-‘They may not say it, but home is where they want you to be.’
WHO? The Malays? Malaysians?
By having muka cinas ony on the add does not really help for my otak melayu to see otherwise, does it??
Siapa yang approve copy dan editorial macam ni??? I don’t care the person could be the next Yasmin Ahmad, or wannabe, but for me this is racists to the core!
But hey, DAP taknak menjerit melalak ke? Kit-the country gone to the dogs-Siang?? Tak nak komen? Ini kalilah komen nanti masuk ICU macam LKY kan susah oredi…
Wrt the ad, it’s aimed at bringing back Dapsters.
The responsibility for Talent Corpse and Pemandu lies at Najib Razak’s door. Both Talent Corpse and Pemandu are as disastrous as 1MDB.
Helen,
It was Prof. Syed Muhammad Naquib Al-Attas who designed the ISTAC buildings in your photo and he was the original director of the International Institute of Islamic Thought and Civilization, which had graduated many fine scholars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syed_Muhammad_Naquib_al-Attas
Love the Istac building.
Compare the towering figure of Syed Naquib with the pea and midget brains who bask in the limelight today, sigh.
re: “It was Anwar Ibrahim who empowered the evangelistas. However with ketum now in jail, the beleaguered Islamists can start to lift the seige. With this Malay protector of the evangelical Christians out of the picture, besieged Muslims can also begin the process of reclaiming their kalimah Allah.”
First of all, Anwar himself was a pioneer Islamist in conjuction with Ikhwanul Muslimin’s (Muslim Brotherhood) radical political dialectics. He then “deviated” into “progressive/liberal Islam” when it suited his political ambition to work with American neo-conservative organisations with Zionist sympathies. Anwar is presently a strong advocate of ideological religious pluralism.
http://ww1.utusan.com.my/utusan/Rencana/20121010/re_06/AntaraSyedNaquibdanAnwar
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http://www.globalmbwatch.com/2013/10/16/anwar-ibrahim-praises-cair-report/
[excerpt]: “Anwar Ibrahim has many known ties to the global U.S Muslim Brotherhood including helping to found the “International Institute of Islamic Thought” (IIIT) where he serves as a director; also acting as a trustee for the World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY) during the 1970’s and early 1980’s, and appearances at numerous Brotherhood-linked conferences. In 2011, he was a participant in the 2011 U.S.-Islamic World Forum, held in the US for the first time and which included a large number of individuals tied to the Global Muslim Brotherhood as well as their supporters. Media coverage on Ibrahim generally ignores this history which may be explained by a 2008 article from the Malaysian media on how Ibrahim has reinvented himself.”
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Inilah pendirian ahli hukama Ahl Sunnah wal Jamaah menangani ancaman pihak “kesamarataan agama”
PLURALISME DAN KESATUAN AGAMA : TANGGAPAN KRITIS
Click to access Pluralisme-agama-1.pdf
Dr. Khalif Muammar is associated with Prof. Syed Muhammad Naquib, and lectures at the “Centre for Advanced Studies on Islam, Science and Civilisation”, UTM, KL.
* Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim *
I’ve heard about this global movement called Transcendental Unity of Religions which basically says that all religious teachings are same in essence. Looking around the world and what men do and do not do, in the name of their religions, I think it is rational to believe otherwise. Buddhists believe instead that all Humanity is the same as its core.
https://bhikkhu.wordpress.com/2006/08/27/a-buddhist-perspective-do-all-religions-say-the-same-thing/
thanks so much Helen for bringing up this issue.
the invocation of the 400 year old translation to justify to the use of kalimah Allah by the present day fake christians is absolutely out of place. that translation was never and will never ever be a binding precedent.
it probably was done innocently or unconsciously but most likely as sneakily as it is done today. innocent or by design, it was wrong and will remain wrong. it cannot and must not be allowed to be followed. wrong cannot be made right just because there was a precedent.
in the legal milieu, a wrong committed by a lower court will be corrected by a higher court and even the highest court is compelled to correct its own wrong by way of review to avoid the wrong being perpetuated.
having run out of counter-arguments, those christian zealots are now fighting for pride. being arrogant & pea and midget brained beings, they will not back down by persuasion. they will get more pesky and dangerous.
only brute force will do the trick because more people are willing to die fighting for pride than fighting for right.
‘it was wrong and will remain wrong.’
Absolutely, takkan the native speakers, the Melayus nak take cue from a confuse ferringhi or two for their daily amal ibadat?? Ridiculous to say the least. This is literally melampau to the high heaven!
The Christians relentless and shameless pursuit of kalimah Allah is part of the plot to claim Sarawak and Sabah for the opposition. They hope to win sympathy votes from the large Christian demography there. Shameless deceivers and manipulators. This a very very dangerous game.
Agree with you. The continuous fight for Putrajaya by the opposition is ruining this country.
‘Shameless’
One of my favourite TV series… [YouTube]
the evangelistas are never this fuck up are they??
In a similar vein, here’s an interesting (and really civilised) discussion on religion and its role in conflicts.
[YouTube]
Since its 23 Feb, lets take a moment to remember Bukit Kepong and those who lost their lives and family members and friends on that day.
http://www.rmp.gov.my/infor-korporate/polis-diraja-malaysia/sejarah/bukit-kepong
I wonder what would Mat Sabu and his, khalifah Tokong bff would say about this??
Mat Sabu foot-in-mouth Bukit Kepong comment – mempercayai bahawa 180 hingga 200 penyerang Balai Polis Bukit Kepong pada 23 Februari, 1950 termasuk lelaki Melayu Muhammad Indera yang menyerang dan membunuh anggota polis dan keluarga mereka itu sebagai hero dan pejuang kemerdekaan yang sebenar.
(http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/sideviews/article/mat-sabu-bukit-kepong-dan-dap-fauziah-arof#sthash.M1OijFo3.dpuf)
If the communists had succeeded in taking over, they’d have abolished the monarchy – no more Raja-Raja Melayu. China is a republic.
If the communists had succeeded in taking over, they’d have suppressed Islam. The communist ideology is anti-religion.
If the communists had succeeded in taking over, the colour of their reign is already foreshadowed by the behaviour of the Bintang Tiga terrorists.
Pejuangan untuk kemerdekaan – from the frying pan (British rule) into the fire (Chinese rule).
And today their cucu-cicit teramat pandai pula berputar-belit.
Let the idiot rot and be dead in jail.
Peace Malaysia.
let’s see what allah swt proclaimed thru the tongue of his beloved rasul saw:
‘And [there are] those [hypocrites] who took for themselves a mosque for causing harm and disbelief and division among the believers and as a station for whoever had warred against Allah and His Messenger before. And they will surely swear, “We INTENDED only the best.” And Allah testifies that indeed they are liars’. (The Repentance: 107)
orang tua2 kata niat baik dapat pahala, (niat saja baik, kalau tidak diikuti dgn perbuatan, tak jadi juga kot?) but is bad intention a crime? just asking.
I believe the growing divide in Pakatan on hudud in Kelantan may bring help the Malays to close the gap on the Allah issue.
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/dap-reminds-pas-of-consequences-of-pushing-through-hudud-bill
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/pas-not-breaking-pakatan-agreement-with-hudud-push-kelantan-tells-dap
18th March is going to be interesting.
Beware the Ides of March?
Prof. Ajmal pointedly brought up the fact that the very vocal Bishop Paul Tan “does not have a congregation that consists of Arabs. However, the fervour with which he is fighting to use the word would make one think that he did”.
I say in Malaysia, the Cina Kristians wanted to be Arabs too! Jangan asyik tudung jari to the Malays ony!!!
Thus the excuse by the Christians – those who are non-native and non-Malay speakers (such as the Bishop Paul Tan) – trying to finagle kalimah Allah by pretending that they love our national language just doesn’t wash.
The can ony say ‘makan’ perfectly, yang lain-lain they tatau wor?!
The ones who makan all the time, and spend the rest of their hours “craving” for this and that food, know how to say “soalan mulut”.
This is how I [this blogger] interpret it. The Church in the peninsula wants to shed its pendatang baggage and image. By snagging the Malays, the missionaries hope that Christianity can eventually acquire bumiputera status and be legitimatized to take its place as the religion of the land.
Betul lah tu Helen, sebab tu la depa sibuk duk covert orang Asli, the so called Orang Asal of tanah Melayu.
Hence we’re saying NO to the use of the word Allah by Christians because we place peace and harmony in this multiracial and multi-religious country above all else,” he said.
With THAT, I bet prof Ajmal can never be a progressive Muslim can he?? By now someone is already working behind closed door to discredit the guy. ‘Fundamentalist Muslim’ anyone??
‘How many times is God called “Yahweh” in the Bible?’
Helen, the link above tak cakap pun berapa kali ‘Allah’ disebut dalam Bible? Tak pernah sebut ke Helen? Zero is it??? Then how come the evangelistas are so gungho crazy about it??
The evangelistas in Malaysia are blind and see not, deaf and hear not, and provocative and heed not.
dan PENIPU BESAR, Helen!
You can buy Prof. Ajmal’s monograph at the Universiti Malaya bookshop, or at Istac
Yes we all should. May Allah SWT bless the guy. Thank you Helen, for the write up. Kalau tak wa pun tatau wor pasai buku ni. Tuhan saja yang dapat balas akan perkara2 baik yang cik Helen buat.
Helen, any chance you boleh tanya Hannah Yeoh or Paul Tan for that matter, saya nak derma buku ni??
Thank you Helen.
I have read Prof Ajmal’s monograph as well.
Ini hasil tulisan yang baik dan bersungguh-sungguh. :)
Helen, there is an interesting write up about DAP’s strategy to split the Malay vote to gain power in the Unspinners’ blog. You should read this interesting piece.
http://theunspinners.blogspot.hk/2015/02/sekolah-demokrasi-strategi-dap-lalaikan.html
China in the past was the ViCTIM of christian agenda.
Mao hate religion “due to Western use Christianity tool” for invasion.
-Taiping rebel, Boxer (involved muslim too) caused more than 20 million citizen & warrior death, China in debt/ weak and finally invaded by Japan.
He saw a long term plot since Opium War, and during Taiping rebel all China strength has been spied & reduced by 50%.
In 2015
Of course when tea & silk no longer commodity – the focus now shifted to Middle East, probably again in SEA for domination race with China. maybe instability or religion war is the easiest tool. No need much money only FAITH feeling.