Soon hudud for all, warns ex-Johor DAP deputy chairman

March 19, 2015 at 1:19 pm 55 comments

PAS for All, Hudud for All.

Former Johor DAP deputy chairman Norman Fernandez strongly condemns the DAP leadership for deceiving Chinese voters into thinking that it was impossible for PAS to implement hudud.

The DAP had misled non-Malays that PAS would require a two-thirds Parliamentary majority to bring its hudud plan to fruition, he said in a press statement.

Truth is, explained Fernandez, the hudud amendment only requires a simple majority if brought to the Dewan Rakyat through a private member’s bill. Once the bill is passed into law by the MPs, hudud can be enforced in Kelantan.

BELOW: Sounded the alarm bell as far back as May 2013

Fernandez: “DAP hoodwinked the Chinese community to vote for PAS”

“All Chinese should remember what DAP did,” said the party’s ex-Johor deputy chief.

And seven future generations of Chinese must be reminded “of the role the DAP played in becoming the midwife who helped deliver the PAS hudud,” added Fernandez who holds the evangelical party guilty of betraying the trust of the non-Muslim electorate.

How ironic, therefore, to hear DAP national organizing secretary Anthony Loke (below) make the claim – in “a tersely worded statement” yesterday – that the Islamist party had purportedly “backstabbed” DAP over the hudud matter.

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It is in fact none other than the DAP which must be credited with “rebranding PAS” and selling the party to the Chinese as “the moderate and tolerant face of Islam”, said Fernandez.

He also highlighted how eagerly the DAP leaders had acted as the public relation officers and sales-and-marketing personal who peddled the ‘PAS for All’ product.

“DAP cannot now cry betrayal and untrustworthiness.”

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Hannah Yeoh looking like a PAS muslimah

We have traitorous DAP to thank for the Islamic state coming up

Our Parliament has 222 seats. Thus a simple majority is 112 ‘aye’ votes.

PAS has 21 MPs and Umno has 88. Combined they have 109 MPs, which is only two short of the minimum 111 MPs needed to obtain a simple majority. Surely it can’t be all that difficult to acquire the consent of just two more Muslim MPs from any of the other parties, whether in BN or PKR.

The Kelantan state government is blazing a trail. Who is to say that other Malay-majority states would not follow suit, asked Fernandez while noting that Kelantan has now prepared a template for the process which the other states can borrow.

According to Fernandez, past reassurances by the DAP lawmakers that hudud would not apply to non-Muslims ring hollow when provisions in the original Kelantan hudud enactment extended the Islamic criminal law to non-Muslims.

PAS president Hadi Awang, as Menteri Besar of Terengganu previously, was on record confirming that hudud would be extended to non-Muslims in his state when he tabled the Syariah Criminal Offences (Hudud and Qisas) bill in 2002, Fernandez reminds us.

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Fernandez: “DAP deceived the Chinese”

Fernandez further said the DAP had been disingenuous if not downright duplicitous when it continued to downplay the danger of hudud being imposed on non-Muslims.

Star hudud TerengganuAfter all, in our neighbouring country of Brunei, hudud is applicable to non-Muslims.

Aceh in Indonesia is another example brought up by Fernandez, who pointed out that the state government ruling the province had initially assured non-Muslims how hudud was only meant for Muslims. But soon enough the Qanun Jinayaat was amended so that non-Muslim Acehnese have, since last year, been subjected to hudud law too.

“Nothing precludes PAS from doing the same,” warned Fernandez.

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Fernandez is finally vindicated

Taking DAP leaders to task for placing their own “self interest and pecuniary interest” over and above the collective interest of the non-Muslims, Fernandez said for their salary and allowance as MP/Adun, these politicians have jeopardized the freedoms of non-Malays in this country.

He was however viciously vilified by the delusional Dapsters for his call on the eve of the last general election that non-Muslims ought to refrain from voting PAS.

And last year, Fernandez as well as the Johor DAP chairman Dr Boo Cheng Hau were ousted from their No.2 and No.1 positions respectively after a putsch by the Kit Siang faction.

“I resigned from DAP when I realised that the unprincipled and those with self and vested interest became the party,” Fernandez declared.

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New evangelical DAP greedy for Gold and Glory

Fernandez had always been able to speak his mind straightforwardly because he is a successful lawyer in his own right.

He was running his own big law firm employing dozens of staff and did not have to depend on politics to make a living, unlike some of the DAP young stars who had not built any sort of meaningful career for themselves when suddenly becoming YBs before they were 30.

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Hannah Yeoh

Ponder on the extent to which the DAP evangelista politicians have been willing to go in order to maintain their new-found fame and fortune.

“Today, more than ever, Chinese should hold all DAP leaders responsible,” concluded Fernandez.

“No amount of show of protest or objection now to PAS must absolve them of DAP’s greatest act of betrayal and sin to the Chinese community.”

Kalimah ‘Allah’ mahu dikongsi tapi yang lain ditolak ke tepi

Hannah Dont say I am Muslim

Updated: 8.30pm on 20 March 2015

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  • 1. Setem  |  March 19, 2015 at 1:38 pm

    Today the hudud bill is passed by Kelantan assembly, by unanimous votes! UMNO Kelantan support PAS wholeheartedly.

    DAP found itself in the losing end. Now they get what they sow. Padam muka.

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    • 2. islam1st  |  March 19, 2015 at 6:49 pm

      ‘by unanimous votes!’

      PKR pun tumpang sekaki kan?? Alhamdullilah…

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  • 3. mulanmalaysia  |  March 19, 2015 at 1:47 pm

    ‘We have traitorous DAP to thank for the Islamic state coming up’

    No. Who ask the Chinese to be so eager to Kill UMNO? Well the Chinese nampak bulan undi bulan and they got their UBAH. Ubah pada sistem menggantikam sistem UMNO yang korup.

    Why Jeff Ooi? Don’t be sad, rejoice.

    Apa Teng Lang mau lagi? Just explain to your dead relatives this Cheng Beng. Everything will be fine.

    Iklan. Hospital Bersalin Lim.

    And MCA and Gerakan should butt out. They have almost zero seats. Just shut up.

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    • 4. Helen Ang  |  March 19, 2015 at 1:56 pm

      re: “Why Jeff Ooi?”

      Not Jeff. It’s Anthony Loke. He previously said as long as we’re not criminals, there’s no need for anyone to fear hudud.

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      • 5. mulanmalaysia  |  March 19, 2015 at 2:02 pm

        http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/sever-all-ties-with-pas-now-dap-lawmaker-tells-pakatan-partners

        Jelutong MP Jeff Ooi said ties must be cut off from the state government to state excos’ aides, local government, village development and security committee, state constituency coordinators, all the way to the national party leadership level.

        The call comes after the Islamist party tabled the Kelantan Shariah Criminal Code II Enactment 1993 amendment yesterday.

        “PAS national has betrayed us. We don’t and cannot trust them any more,” he said today.

        Ooi also said DAP should not delay its censure against the PAS leadership or take sides to lend moral support to the pleadings from the so-called “liberal group” in the Islamist party.

        Ooi said DAP, too, should not be seen as meddling in the process of PAS’s party elections in

        – See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/sever-all-ties-with-pas-now-dap-lawmaker-tells-pakatan-partners#sthash.88tZSQ8s.dpuf

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        • 6. Helen Ang  |  March 19, 2015 at 2:14 pm

          Oh I see. Thanks for the link.

          re: “PAS national has betrayed us. We don’t and cannot trust them any more”

          Don’t think the 90 percent Chinese have got the mental capacity to realise how they’ve been betrayed by the DAP evangelistas. They will continue trusting the DAP, with only the difference that now they hate PAS on top of the hatred they harbour for Umno.

          So imagine these Dapsters hating on Umno (claiming 3.5 million members) as well as hating on the “Umnoputras” (Malays who benefited from NEP).

          And hating on PAS (one million members) and their Islamist families. And hating on Perkasa and Isma and the Muslim NGOs.

          And hating the police force because it is predominantly Malay. Hating the civil service because it is dominated by Malays. Hating the mamaks. Hating the mualaf for converting to Islam.

          How to live in this country? Where to pour all that abundant love-love-love that they possess?

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          • 7. Setem  |  March 19, 2015 at 2:20 pm

            Helen, you were right in your pre-GE13 many premonitions.

            Chinese rejection of UMNO had made UMNO shifted further to the right (or is it left?) in order to maintain and keep the Malay rural support.

            I still hope some of the 90% Chinese got the mental capacity to see what you’ve foreseen earlier.

            Ubah lah….lagi.

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            • 8. shamshul anuar  |  March 19, 2015 at 5:22 pm

              Setem,

              “…chinese rejection…”

              There is a blessing in disguise. PRU13 shows the magnitude of chinese rejection of UMNO. But it too shows to the Malays that that chinese votes cant bring down UMNO

              So why bother on what Chinese say on Hudud.

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              • 9. islam1st  |  March 19, 2015 at 6:55 pm

                Absolutely abang Shamsul and Setem, apparently UMNO dah sedar skit kut? Kalau tak sampai bila pun UMNO duk takut2 nak make a stand to benefit the ummah! Alhamdulillah.

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                • 10. shamshul anuar  |  March 19, 2015 at 10:07 pm

                  Islam 1st,

                  Dah sedar. Cuma Najib masih berharap orang Cina sokong BN walaupun semua orang dalam planet ini tahu perkara ini mustahil berlaku.

                  Selama ni UMNO kata hudud sukar dilksanakn di negara bangsa tapi PRU13 tunjukkan orang cina sokong PAS, bukannya UMNO. Jadi pada saya orang Cina tak kisah dengan hudud.

                  Yang menentang hudud adalah pemimpin DAP, bukan orang Cina. Termasuk yg menentang adalah PKR. Melayu lain dari UMNO dan PAS (kecuali species macam Khalid Samad). Jadi tiada masalah untuk Hudud dilaksanakan.

                  Apa mesej yg UMNO tunjukkan bila sokong hudud? Mesejnya adalah UMNO dah tak kisah dengan pendapat MCA, Gerakan atau orang Cina. Sebab kalau ikut pendapat MCA (yg tolak hudud) pun orang Cina masih mahu kuburkan UMNO.

                  Lagi pun pilihanraya lepas tunjukkan yg UMNO masih kekal walaupun hampir semua orang Cina tolak UMNO. Jadi buat apa perlu sensitif dengan apa orang Cina atau MCA ke Gerakan cakap.

                  Lebih baik jaga hati orang Melayu.

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                  • 11. shamshul anuar  |  March 19, 2015 at 10:17 pm

                    helen,

                    By supporting Hudud, UMNO manages to “penetrate’ PAS forte: RELIGION.

                    Now PAS cant blame UMNO anymore if it faces challenges on implementing Hudud.

                    The mood is changing in Kelantan. In last election despite winning only 12 seats in Kelantan DUN, UMNO manages to get 46% votes. A mere change of less than 5% of voting pattern will see UMNO taking over Kelantan.

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          • 12. Faizal  |  March 19, 2015 at 2:39 pm

            All that love-love-love and they forgot: “for whatever a man shall sow, that also shall he reap.”

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            • 13. Mati azi  |  March 19, 2015 at 7:56 pm

              Yes. The Pakatoons had prayed for a just and incorruptible system, and to Allah they have prayed, so they get His HUDUD.

              Now when they get what they have prayed for, they become upset pulak?

              ED (Encik Duck)

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          • 14. MCA.8481  |  March 19, 2015 at 3:07 pm

            haiyya, so full of hatred. Poor marginalized & smarter people hahaha. Better ship out lah

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            • 15. islam1st  |  March 19, 2015 at 6:56 pm

              ‘Better ship out lah’

              The sooner the better. Ala tol tambak johor berapa sen je kut!

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          • 16. The Rithmatist  |  March 19, 2015 at 3:16 pm

            Singapore is looking more and more attractive…lol.

            Maybe the “brain drain” will intensify if hudud comes to pass.

            The “smart money” is already diversifying out of Malaysia.

            The more “cosmopolitan” and “liberal” Malays with the education and wherewithal may also be tempted to leg it too in search of more hospitable climes.

            Maybe the DAP has done all a favour by forcing Malaysians to look for alternatives.

            Oh, btw, if hudud does become the law of the land, will foreign diplomats, embassies and high commissions be subject to it? Does hudud accept “diplomatic immunity”?

            I’d dearly love to see PAS and/or Umno try to enforce hudud laws on the staff of the US Embassy, for instance.

            Uncle Sam will definitely not be amused.

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            • 17. islam1st  |  March 19, 2015 at 6:58 pm

              ‘Maybe the DAP has done all a favour by forcing Malaysians to look for alternatives.’

              Sulking nampak???

              ‘Uncle Sam’

              Unlike you, KIASI, kita orang tak takut la brader. Bring it on!

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              • 18. Kineas  |  March 19, 2015 at 10:06 pm

                Ooh…I can see the US Marine guards at the US Embassy trembling in their shoes…

                Bring it on? The RMN versus the US Seventh Fleet?

                Hardly a contest there, I think…lol.

                But some folks have delusions of grandeur.

                It must come from years of being “pampered”!

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                • 19. islam1st  |  March 20, 2015 at 4:23 am

                  ‘But some folks have delusions of grandeur.’

                  I bet. Too much Hollywood flicks lately? Tak pernah dengar Vietnam ke brader?

                  ‘It must come from years of being “pampered”!’

                  Better than makan ‘taik’!

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          • 20. jentayu  |  March 19, 2015 at 4:14 pm

            In simple words : they hate malay and islam.

            DAP and PAS is two of the biggest party in malaysia aside umno. put pkr in the mix and you get 3 parties with inflated ego.

            Never in the history of politic in any part of the world will the left wing team up with a right wing to form a coalition. Because a sane political party will always think of the future in case they might get elected to the big prize ie the throne.

            Sharing it with someone with totally different ideology and wavelength would create haywire to the government system. But these oppos never seems to care about the system as long as its ABU. What happens after that let event takes its courses.

            Although we have witnessed again and again incompetencies of oppos government in state and public shaming between the same camp in the media. Oppos started this silly politics and consequently BN dance to its tune. Great.

            What boggles me most is majority of voters pick a short sighted coalition to rule the country. Are malaysians indeed stupid?

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    • 23. Faizal  |  March 19, 2015 at 2:42 pm

      RE: “No. Who ask the Chinese to be so eager to Kill UMNO? Well the Chinese nampak bulan undi bulan and they got their UBAH. Ubah pada sistem menggantikam sistem UMNO yang korup.”

      That’s the folly in ABU. They thought that nothing can be worse than UMNO, therefore anything else is better than UMNO.

      Whenever someone says, “nothing can be worse than our present situation,” that just reflects a failure of imagination.

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    • 25. MCA.8481  |  March 19, 2015 at 3:04 pm

      and they said that the chinese are smarter ? all 90% of them….. hahaha

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      • 26. islam1st  |  March 19, 2015 at 7:06 pm

        Depa lupa bahawa Allah lagi hebat merancang…

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  • 27. grkumar  |  March 19, 2015 at 1:53 pm

    A bit late for DAP (or former DAP MP’s) to find their common sense after sitting on it for so long for no good reason. Someone ought to tell them what we all know. “Careful about what you ask for. You might just get it”

    Once you’ve let the wolf in through the door you better pray you have a good strong wood cutter coming to visit you for tea who could kill it.

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  • 28. RINA  |  March 19, 2015 at 2:11 pm

    I am with TDM on this.. Islam Hudud not PAS hudud.

    Up to this day, implementation and enforcements of simple cases on halal haram, nafkah kpd anak isteri, pembahagian harta pesaka simati dan sbgnya pun tak begitu kemas dan jelas.

    Kelantan is definitely out of bounce where my family is concerned. Pilih menantu dari Kelantan pun no way..

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    • 29. orangkampung  |  March 19, 2015 at 3:40 pm

      Let’s hope the new hudud syaria system that Pas is implementing will be better, that’s all we can do as it’s already gone through.

      What I find interesting is that most of the coverage on hudud pointed out the death penalty for apostasy. I don’t know but is apostasy such a common occurrence in this country that it needed to be highlighted? In their shoes, I’d be more worried if there’s punishment for, say, being the “agent” bringing about apostasy.

      I know the non-Muslims think that hudud should not apply to them but I agree with Fernandez, sooner or later they’ll make it universal.

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      • 30. RINA  |  March 19, 2015 at 6:46 pm

        Implementasi dan enforcement..

        Ini yg membimbangkan. Will the real victims be protected? Takut nanti timbul kes2 macam Aishah, yg dirogol kena rejam sampai mati.

        Klo PAS yg akan implement, seram juga.. Silap2 kes macam Saiful.. atau mangsa rogol lain, berani ke depa buat laporan?

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        • 31. islam1st  |  March 19, 2015 at 7:11 pm

          ‘Let’s hope the new hudud syaria system that Pas is implementing will be better’

          Saya setuju. Kita pun sebagai stake holder boleh bagi input supaya ianya menjadi seperti yang sepatutnya. Sebagai Muslim ini adalah tanggungjawab kita semua supaya agama ini tidak mudah lagi difitnah musuh2 Islam.

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        • 32. orangkampung  |  March 19, 2015 at 11:15 pm

          A lot of work to be done. I don’t think PAS will work this on their own. I’m sure they must have put together some kind of committee on the actual laws, what constitutes the crime, what’s required and what punishment applies and how the punishment will be carried out, etc.

          I’m hoping they’ll be smart about it and get a really good mix of civil/syariah lawyers, scholars and administrators for a committee. I guess we’ll see soon enough if this is a well-thought out and well-formulated enactment or something that’s doomed to crash before take-off.

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    • 33. islam1st  |  March 19, 2015 at 7:09 pm

      ‘Up to this day, implementation and enforcements of simple cases on halal haram, nafkah kpd anak isteri, pembahagian harta pesaka simati dan sbgnya pun tak begitu kemas dan jelas.’

      Kak Rina, saya setuju dan apa yang saya tahu sekarang ni diaorang sedang usahakan supaya hal-hal sebegini dapat diselesaikan once and for all. Sama2 la kita doakan.

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  • 35. Melayu MAlaysia  |  March 19, 2015 at 2:15 pm

    For once, Thank you DAP…and can we expect the next 7 generations of Chinese to remember it?

    “And seven future generations of Chinese must be reminded “of the role the DAP played in becoming the midwife who helped deliver the PAS hudud,” added Fernandez

    Seriously…they will all be busy with making money, in Penang or Selangor and they just pack their backs off to another country if they can’t take the heat…only to come back during GE to, again vote in their “midwife who helped deliver the PAS hudud,”

    Mr. Fernandez, with due respect, DAP is the most racist party in our country….just look at what you have been thru…..no point barking Tuan…only selected “coloureds” will taste the seat of power, and even that from only one family…..

    I hope DAP will continue to deliver such goodies…..such a good and efficient midwife…..

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    • 36. islam1st  |  March 19, 2015 at 7:13 pm

      ‘Mr. Fernandez, with due respect, DAP is the most racist party in our country….just look at what you have been thru’

      DAP cuma nak bagi Cina jadi warga kelas satu, yang lain2 tu faham2 sajala…

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  • 37. Mulan of Malaysia  |  March 19, 2015 at 2:36 pm

    Throwback!

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  • 38. SABBAS48  |  March 19, 2015 at 3:35 pm

    Helen.
    Now no more excuse. Once undang-undang hudud diwartakan, maka semua kena didakwa dan dihukum mengikut undang-undang tersebut.

    Kita tidak harus anggap bahawa hudud hanya untuk orang Islam sahaja.

    Di dalam agama lain pun ada terkandung hukum-hukum hudud. Bagi bukan Islam yang melakukan jenayah yang dikategorikan sebagai jenayah yang boleh dikenakan hukum hudud mereka boleh diberi pilihan untuk menjalani hukuman di bawah hudud Islam atau hudud yang terdapat didalam kitab agama mereka seperti yang terdapat di dalam posting Helen yang terdahulu.

    Jadi kepada orang-orang bukan Islam, you are now welcome into the hudud world.

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  • 39. canon  |  March 19, 2015 at 5:04 pm

    Need clarification from experts. Thus far, I have read 3 opinions.

    1. PAS said no FedCon amendment is needed. Only need to amend Syariah Courts (Criminal Jurisdiction) Act 1965 that requires simple majority of 112. As Helen said, 21+88 = 109, short of 2. Very doable.

    2. Some lawyers said FedCon amended is needed. Eg. to amend the Art on equality in order to implement Hudud in Kelantan. Merely amend the Act 1965 is insufficient as it will contradict FedCon, thus rendering it unconstitutional. As such 2/3 majority is needed and PAS/UMNO is really short of it.

    3. The doctrine of basic structure of FedCon, i.e. certain provisions in the FedCon are so important that they cannot be amended irrespective of the majority (whether 2/3 or even 100%). Eg. election to be held every 5 years. To abolish the same or amend as ‘every 10 years’ are illegal. Hudud will contravene FedCon in many important aspects of FedCon that are deemed as basic structure, i.e. Msia is a secular nation, criminal law is a Federal jurisdiction and Art. 8 on equality.

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    • 40. orangkampung  |  March 19, 2015 at 7:00 pm

      This Prof from IIUM is someone TV Al-hijrah invites when they need to consult on FedCon. I’ve heard her speak on quite a few issues including Hudud and this is the link to Utusan where she pointed out that “(hudud) perlu diteliti dengan lebih terperinci kerana membabitkan banyak persoalan Perlembagaan yang perlu diselesaikan sebelum dapat dilaksanakan.”

      http://www.utusan.com.my/berita/nasional/teliti-hukum-hudud-terlebih-dahulu-sebelum-dilaksanakan-1.71148#sthash.aCa4mZdK.dpuf

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      • 41. canon  |  March 19, 2015 at 8:18 pm

        Thanks for the link.

        I found another one:
        http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v8/po/newspolitics.php?id=1116726

        Based on my understanding, FedCon needs to be amended. If not mistaken, it will require 2/3 majority. If that is the case, 148 MPs are needed. But Muslim MPs are 132 only. Short of 16. Moreover, not all Muslim MPs will support the amendment. Like those from PKR, DAP and some Sabah/Sarawak parties.

        For the Syariah Courts (Criminal Jurisdiction) Act 1965, the amendment is to increase the punishment that can be meted out by Syariah Courts.

        Both FedCon and the Act 1965 have to be amended accordingly in order to validate the Kelantan Hudud law.

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      • 42. canon  |  March 19, 2015 at 9:32 pm

        If UMNO is really supportive of hudud at federal level, they can immediately allow the private member’s bill of PAS to be tabled ASAP. After all, the speaker of Parliament is an UMNO man. The speaker can allow the notice period relating to hudud to be cut short in order to ‘jump queue’.

        http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/bahasa/2015/03/19/hudud-mungkin-tidak-dibentangkan-pada-sidang-ini-shahidan/

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        • 43. orangkampung  |  March 19, 2015 at 11:33 pm

          Umno is supportive but the PM has too much on his plate right now what with his daughter’s wedding (almost became a Parliament issue), 1MDB, etc, to pile on the Hudud issue.

          I think he’ll play it safe. Sit on it for a while. Probably checking on the people’s sentiment, which will definitely confuse him because his Malay kampung supporters are for, while his much-favored Cina supporters are against. So he’ll have to wait for his consultants to consult.

          So don’t worry, I think it’ll be sometime before it’s tabled in Parliament.

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    • 44. shamshul anuar  |  March 19, 2015 at 10:12 pm

      Canon,

      Some basic constitution matters are beyond the jurisdiction of parliament. It requires the consent of Raja Raja Melayu . Among structures that cant be removed by act of parliament is article 153.

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  • 45. islam1st  |  March 19, 2015 at 6:44 pm

    ‘that the Islamist party had purportedly “backstabbed” DAP over the hudud matter.’

    Helen, kebelakangan ini DAP dan MCA dan banyak quotes you la!

    Itu hari MCA kata DAP yang jual Hudud kat bukan Muslim! Hahaha

    Any chance you advises both of them? Hahaha

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    • 46. shamshul anuar  |  March 19, 2015 at 10:12 pm

      islam1st,

      it is the other way around.

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  • 47. islam1st  |  March 19, 2015 at 6:47 pm

    “I resigned from DAP when I realised that the unprincipled and those with self and vested interest became the party,” Fernandez declared.’

    Melayu sudah tau DAP tipu maa!

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  • 48. islam1st  |  March 19, 2015 at 6:50 pm

    ‘No. Who ask the Chinese to be so eager to Kill UMNO? Well the Chinese nampak bulan undi bulan and they got their UBAH. Ubah pada sistem menggantikam sistem UMNO yang korup’

    Betul maa. ABU all the way!!! Hahahaha

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  • 49. islam1st  |  March 19, 2015 at 6:53 pm

    ‘with only the difference that now they hate PAS on top of the hatred they harbour for Umno.’

    Mirror2 on the wall, siapa yang 90% paling benci sekarang, UMNO ke PAS? So will ABU be Ubah to ABP next? Hahaha!

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  • 50. Mulan  |  March 19, 2015 at 7:12 pm

    Actually I am enjoying this. The rewards from ‘I told you so’.
    In just two year the UBAH Chinese has changed 50 years of political dialogue and harmony.
    Huat!

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    • 51. islam1st  |  March 19, 2015 at 9:14 pm

      ‘In just two year the UBAH Chinese has changed 50 years of political dialogue and harmony’

      Kiasu maa. Everyone else is so stupid what!

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    • 52. Chris  |  March 19, 2015 at 9:23 pm

      Could we say the Christian Zionists who are not truly following the way of Jesus the Messiah has been collaborating with the Wahhabi Islamists who are not truly following the way of Muhammad the Messenger of Allah, to seize control of this democratic nation of Malaysia. In our unfolding pages of political intrigues the Maoists and the Zionists have indeed co-opted the prophetic traditions of Jesus and Muhammad with the utmost cunning such as could not have been inspired by any dark power other than the Archdevil Lucifer. What ends do you think Satan has on its mind?

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  • 53. ED  |  March 19, 2015 at 7:32 pm

    Ms H. PAS should thank the Singaporean Trojan Horse DAP for their support all these years to gain so many Federal and State seats. The DAP should have no complaints as it was all done voluntarily.

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  • 54. islam1st  |  March 19, 2015 at 9:43 pm

    Pemimpin Cina kelirukan masyarakat mengenai hukum hudud

    http://www.ismaweb.net/2015/03/pemimpin-cina-kelirukan-masyarakat-mengenai-hukum-hudud/

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  • 55. mimkasrah  |  March 20, 2015 at 1:14 am

    Ms Helen, pertanyaan adakah hudud akan menyeberangi titiwangsa menampakan berkemungkinan akan berlaku seperti alasan Ex Dap Johor Chief.

    Orang-orang muslim awam juga menanti bagaimanakah perlaksanaan hudud juga. Perhatikan perbezaan antara kerajaan MelayuIslam Malaysia (termasuk Brunei) dengan negara-negara Timur Tengah dalam implimentasi hukum hudud.

    +ive note

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