What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?

April 13, 2015 at 12:05 am 46 comments

The unstoppable force =  M

The immovable object = N

What do you think will happen?

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  • 1. Cosmic Forces  |  April 13, 2015 at 1:46 am

    When the “M” force hits inert object “N” all the beans will be spilled, and things won’t be looking elegant when dark secrets come to light.

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  • 2. IT.Scheiss  |  April 13, 2015 at 3:31 am

    An unstoppable force and an immovable object cannot exist at the same time, If the object cannot move when impacted by the unstoppable force it will shatter, or if the force is due to the momentum of a moving object such as a cannon ball hitting an immovable object the moving object would shatter.

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  • 3. badaruddin  |  April 13, 2015 at 4:59 am

    The unstoppable force of M is

    Where M= the rakyat who will determine the tipping of the scale which will have serious implication on the

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  • 4. badaruddin  |  April 13, 2015 at 5:03 am

    N = an individual’s interest defended by superficial group of supporters which will have far reaching consequences on the rakyat and the country

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  • 5. grkumar  |  April 13, 2015 at 6:26 am

    Depends on what the final object of the unstoppable force is. If it is something behind the immovable object, it will then circumvent it but not without threatening the direct confrontation first.

    The unstoppable force is an intelligent one. The immovable one is stuck in a time warp.

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  • 6. badaruddin  |  April 13, 2015 at 8:07 am

    Kepada Najib dan seluruh ahli umno,

    Malam yang gelap diterangi cahaya bulan
    Nun jauh di sana kelihatan cahaya pelita
    Sesal dahulu sangatlah berpendapatan
    Sesal kemudian air mata darahpun tak berguna

    Mempertahankan individu ada batasan
    Dengar dan lihat jangan membuta tuli
    Yang betul disokong salah diperbetulkan
    Tersalah langkah rakyat metana dan rugi

    Melayu Islam Malaysia Timur

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  • 7. Dandy  |  April 13, 2015 at 10:13 am

    What crap is this?. It’s all about Money and building their dynasties for friends and cronies. That’s real and not cerita dongeng Hang Tu Ah atau Hang Ye Fatt.

    The rest of the Rakyat can continue listening to the old record of demi Bangsa, Agama Dan Tanah Air.

    Mamakutty has finally found someone of his own match and no easy pushover. He forgot women are equal to man and when it comes to money, they will never give it up without a big big fight. Power begets Money and Money begets Power.

    Mamakutty dah mudah lupa segala tindakan beliau menghancurkan pembahagian kuasa antara kerajaan, Parlimen, Raja-raja, Kehakiman, Polis Dan Tentera kini dah terkumpul dibawah PM dimana sesiapa yang menjadi PM kini adalah “King of Kings” atau “Queen of Kings”.

    Mamakutty ingat Dia masih PM ke? Dia masih ingat lagu “My way” tu ciptaan beliau sahaja ke? Orang lain pun gemar lagu tu.

    Silap langkah lagi, Mamakutty mungkin ibarat filem “The last 300 Spartans”. Merengkok bersama Anwar kerana mengancam kekuasaan Persia.

    Mamakutty ni dah nyanyok. Dia lupa soldadunya dah semua serupa beliau, tua dan tak berdaya lagi untuk berperang besar. Ada yang terus tak ambil pot tentang apa yang beliau bebelkan.

    Orang-orang muda sekarang dah bijak dan lebih sofistikated. Mereka senang dapat maklumat sebelum membuat sesuatu tindakan dan lebih inginkan Kebebasan bersuara Dan berfikir sendiri seperti mana negara-negara maju.

    M tu kuasa apa? Ada 3 juta ahli dibelakang atau 190 Ketua Bahagian menyokong ke? Nak jadi Ketua Cawangan pun belum tentu boleh menang.

    N tu dah kebal, hasil jasa bakti peninggalan dinasti Mamakutty kepada sesiapa yang mengambil tampok pemerintahan PM.

    Mamakutty bukan Doktor lagi. Sebaliknya, dengan usia bagini, dia yang lebih memerlukan beberapa doktor untuk merawat kesakitan mental, jiwa dan ego.

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    • 8. Bangang so Bengong  |  April 13, 2015 at 12:46 pm

      Dandy si Pengumpat dan Pengadu Domba oink oink oink!

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  • 9. peacecombe  |  April 13, 2015 at 10:28 am

    This brings us to the crux of the matter.

    The success of the BN’s s polices have created problems. Once we are opulent, we forget our success due more to God’s graces than our efforts. Our integrity standards which includes not too much interference with God’s choices has resulted in abuse of power.

    But I don’t think the power base of the economy has changed very much, that, is the power base of the economy properly and legitimately acquired. It is the sector which has improperly acquired wealth that’s providing the theatrics, on shaky foundations.

    The opposition parties have no sound economic base, and their ideology is authoritarian, not democratic in the rue sense, and have no sense of what it means to run an economy, even as China is emerging as a model of wisdom.

    Statistically unlikely good leaders will follow good., So, will deception tilt our wisdom?

    Will we have go through sheol and wait another 40 years to mature as a nation?

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  • 10. calvinsankaran  |  April 13, 2015 at 10:30 am

    I don’t want to be judgmental on either of these forces. But I am looking at the big picture here. There is an old Tamil saying that goes something like this – if the village is divided, the only one who will be celebrating is the local troupe.

    DAP strategists know that they need to split the Malays into 3 groups (UMNO, PAS & PKR) so they can emerge the strongest. In fact they are also starting a Malay faction to further split the community using the awek cun strategy.

    The M vs N fight now is splitting the community into even smaller pieces and making it even weaker.

    Whatever grievances that M has should be discussed internally and resolved either at UMNO Supreme Council or BN Council level.

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    • 11. IT.Scheiss  |  April 13, 2015 at 8:08 pm

      DAP will need at least one of the Malay parties as an ally or coalition partner to be able to have over 51% of the seats to be able to rule effectively.

      Also, with the pole shift in Malaysian politics from an ethno-religio towards a religio-ethno axis which is taking place right now, such as can be seen in how PAS is distancing itself from Pakatan whilst becoming more collaborative with Barisan, will the scenario you describe come to pass or will the pole shift bring the Malays back into unity on grounds of Islam despite their political differences.

      You can also see this pole shift happening in Helen’s subsequent blog post on how the former Menteri Besar lost to an Ulama as head of the PAS Kampar division, a shift which Helen interprets as a shift towards greater conservatism amongst the Malays.

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      • 12. Helen Ang  |  April 13, 2015 at 9:53 pm

        Nizar lost badly, btw.

        I see the DAP rabble-rousing the native Christians. DAP has already got the peninsula Christians eating out of their hand.

        Therefore, my forecast is that the DAP evangelistas will precipitate a religious conflict. Malaysia has always been afraid of another race riot recurring. I don’t reckon the fight will be over race. It will be over Islam between non-Muslims and Muslims.

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        • 13. islam1st  |  April 13, 2015 at 10:10 pm

          Malaysia another Lebanon?

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        • 14. calvinsankaran  |  April 14, 2015 at 9:47 am

          DAP sees nothing wrong in invoking religion in garnering political support for themselves but when PAS or UMNO do the same, they start kicking and screaming murder.

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      • 15. calvinsankaran  |  April 14, 2015 at 9:45 am

        I agree about DAP needing a Malay/Muslim partner to be able to attain power at the Federal level. But they will need a junior partner rather than someone who is assertive.

        They are pragmatic enough to know that they cannot be seen as the head of govt so they will be contend with a role in the background dictating policies and making decisions with a Malay head of state basically functioning as a symbol without any decision making /executive powers.

        This is the model DAP adapted in Perak using Nizar as the MB. Nga and Ngeh were the puppet masters to the extend that they were instructing Nizar and the Indian Speaker in real time using in-house communication network. They even instructed what to say and the words to use.

        As for Nizar’s loss, I am not surprised at all. I cannot say I am familiar with PAS politics but I do have some old uni friends who are relatively high positions that I used to talk to occasionally.

        Many people underestimate PAS but they are as cunning as DAP when it comes to mass manipulation and PR. People think PAS as some unsophisticated kampong party with not much financial muscle. It is not so.

        For the last 2 GEs, PAS have been very careful to cultivate an image of a progressive party that embraces the idea of multi religious and multi ethnic society. They have strategized well and this was demonstrated via many means.

        One was in issuing statements. Instead of shooting from mouth, they use different leaders to address different audiences and issues. They send the so-called the Erdogan faction to churches and temples while the conservatives prowled the mosques in the Malay belt preaching their Wahhabi principles.

        Even their line-up was carefully selected by the top to allow the moderates to rise up with being challenged by the more popular conservatives or mullahs. People like Nizar, Khalid Samad and the rest of the moderates gang have very little support from the grass root but allowed to be in leadership positions due to leadership’s support.

        Now that PAS has realises that there is no hope with Pakatan, they have decided to strike their own path. The election contests will be now free for all and you will see the entire Erdogan faction will be wiped out.

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        • 16. IT.Scheiss  |  April 15, 2015 at 5:29 am

          “But they will need a junior partner rather than someone who is assertive. ”

          And which party is most likely to be that junior partner?

          I guess it will be the PKR which shares similar secular ideals as the DAP, though the PSM could join in too, since it too shares similar ideals with the left wing of the PKR, many of whom came over with the merge or the Parti Keadilan Malaysia and members of the Parti Rakyat of Malaysia who joined to form the Parti Keadilan Rakyat.

          BTW. since the PRM was not deregistered, the party still exists as a rump with a small number of members.

          Also, let us not forget what members of the Gerakan and PPP would do or the parties themselves, as well as members of the MCA and MIC.

          As I stated in my other comment, there is a process of consolidation taking place in Malaysia’s political landscape right now.

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  • 17. Ph  |  April 13, 2015 at 11:35 am

    Crashhh….menang jadi arang kalah jadi abu.

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    • 18. Helen Ang  |  April 13, 2015 at 12:08 pm

      Collateral damage

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  • 19. maae  |  April 13, 2015 at 11:43 am

    U see, when newton’s head “knocked” by an apple, he started thinking seriously and “the transformation” of gravity and force came into picture, with the time frame calculated.

    Later enstein theory proved the mass destruction of nuclear energy in Hiroshima that changed the whole world.

    M an N formely, existed in compound nature. Now it is being separated by the formula 1= MD / B where 1 is diety, M and D the constant existed whereas B is variable.

    Just fill in the values, we may get the right answer. Agree ?

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  • 20. RINA  |  April 13, 2015 at 12:00 pm

    Proven over the years and voters support, M let rakyat taste the cake, well some getting huge chunks and many others the crumbs..

    N we can see how he celebrated his first child’s marriage ceremonies. Rakyat biasa nak peep tengok cake pun tidak di izinkan… only fit fir the eyes of very selected few…

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  • 21. kamarul  |  April 13, 2015 at 12:19 pm

    N will win.

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  • 22. C72  |  April 13, 2015 at 12:22 pm

    I reckon the fall out will impact most on N’s inner circle and sycophants – which is probably M’s intended target all along.

    I believe he’s always had a personal soft spot for N but disappointed with his actions that are influenced by those around him.

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  • 23. rocky the great brown unused dick  |  April 13, 2015 at 2:16 pm

    both are now having erection problems; they should find ways to get visual assist immediate erection to trigger sensibility glands to function harmoniously and judiciously.. HA, never get too much into this, or you may suffer dryness soon! pity you.. ha ha ha

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  • 24. albi  |  April 13, 2015 at 3:07 pm

    When M and N clashes you are going to get NPM or new PM.

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  • 31. Jeff  |  April 13, 2015 at 4:28 pm

    UMNO are corrupt. DAP are not to be trusted and Evangelical. PKR are out of the question as you get DAP as well in a package deal. PAS are religious morons. MCA, MIC and Gerakan are irrelevant.

    Just who to vote for? Malaysia’s future is certainly looking bleak.

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    • 32. Jade Emperor  |  April 13, 2015 at 7:36 pm

      Elect those who give you more than you ask for, and who take less from you than what you give. And above all, stand for election yourself.

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    • 33. Yoyoi  |  April 13, 2015 at 8:15 pm

      I’ll vote for Pwincess!!

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    • 34. IT.Scheiss  |  April 15, 2015 at 5:18 am

      Malaysia’s 17 party system with 13 in the BN, three in Paktan and the PSM is consolidating, with weaker parties on both sides falling into irrelevance, especially in Peninsular Malaysia, so I see a consolidation towards UMNO as the top gun in Barisan, DAP in Pakatan, PKR as a junior partner, PAS and PSM on the outside, though it is possible that PSM could either join what’s left of the Pakatan or remain independent outside.

      So a 17 party system could consolidate down to a five party system initially and maybe down to a four or three party system later on.

      After all, this happens in industries which have matured, as weaker players lose out and are acquired, just as Alcatel acquired Lucent to become Alcatel-Lucent, which is now being acquired by Nokia and the new giant entity will now compete with Ericsson.

      Most countries have two or three major parties plus several relatively minor fringe parties which gain relatively few seats in parliament unless some serious situation arises, such in Greece where Syriza defeated the traditional big parties to form the government or like how the Nazis came to power in Weimar Germany at the height of very tough economic conditions which the big parties could do nothing to resolve or did not have the will to resolve.

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      • 35. Helen Ang  |  April 15, 2015 at 11:32 am

        re: “UMNO as the top gun in Barisan, DAP in Pakatan, PKR as a junior partner, PAS and PSM on the outside”

        PAS and PSM will probably remain outside as you assess while DAP (no.2) fights Umno (no.1).

        So Chinese vs Malay, lah.

        re: “like how the Nazis came to power in Weimar Germany at the height of very tough economic conditions which the big parties could do nothing to resolve”

        DAP could come to power with PKR as a junior partner and bolstered by a few more toddler partners. Then like the Nazis, once power is secure and strengthened, the partners can be downgraded then eliminated.

        Zamkata the minute DAP comes to power, there will be a witch hunt on Tun and other Umno stalwarts whom the Dapsters hate. In fact, during the DAP campaign, their followers were promised Mahathir’s head should Pakatan take Putrajaya.

        As you can see from the rantings in cyberspace, the oppo supporters are a real bloodthirsty lot. Fail to understand the sneaky bastards (evangelistas) and the nature of their blood lust (Dapsters) at our own peril.

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        • 36. calvinsankaran  |  April 15, 2015 at 1:28 pm

          I think what DAP is trying to do is to create a Muslim vs .Non Muslim divide. This will allow them to latch on the non Muslim votes will let UMNO, PKR and PAS to split the Muslim voters among them.

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          • 37. Helen Ang  |  April 15, 2015 at 1:35 pm

            And sneak past the goalpost Obama style.

            6/10 of the white votes went to Romney-Republican but Obama’s rainbow approach got 9.5/10 of the black votes, 7/10 of the Asian votes, 7/10 of the Latino votes and close to 8/10 of the gay votes.

            So did the white man (majority race) or did the minority race candidate win the American presidential election?

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            • 38. calvinsankaran  |  April 15, 2015 at 2:59 pm

              Agreed about Obama-style strategy. Did you hear about PKR and DAP sending their people to the US to be taught about election campaigning ? It was sponsored by some suspicious sounding NGOs (probably backed by people like Soros).

              There was also allegations some German NGOs with similarly dirty background providing funds to on-line media and also conducting political training.

              I also think DAP took some lessons from the Nazis (ironically the word Nazi comes from the German words National Socialists) in dividing the nation and fishing in the muddy waters.

              In Peninsular Malaysia they use religion. In Sabah and Sarawak, they will fan fire over secession to divide BN parties.

              I read Joceline’s interesting observation about the Chinese in Sarawak. Apparently the dislike race politics and the control by Pen. Malaysia political parties yet vote 95% to DAP.

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              • 39. Helen Ang  |  April 15, 2015 at 3:20 pm

                Nazi German name = DAP / Deutsche Arbeiter Partei

                Deutsche = German, arbeit = work, partei = party

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      • 40. calvinsankaran  |  April 15, 2015 at 1:26 pm

        I think your hypothesis makes sense based on Malaysian scenario as well as the global historical trends.

        For PR, DAP will be the top dog supported by PKR and most likely PasMa. PKR is never really a political party and I don’t think they command any supporters based on their ideals (which I think doesn’t exist and changes according to the whims of the unelected Ketum). Basically PKR is where people go when they cannot get into leadership positions in UMNO/BN or DAP.

        PSM is more of a NGO than a real political party with very little support. I respect them for their principles but they are basically socialist (= Marxist) in disguise and I find it hard to fathom their association with PR.

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        • 41. IT.Scheiss  |  April 16, 2015 at 12:36 pm

          Both Arul and Dr. Nasir are or were members of SUARAM, and much of the PSM’s work involves collaboration with NGOs, some of which openly admit to having accepted funds from the likes of the NED and Soros.

          Other members or past members of Suaram include the likes of Elizabeth Wong, Sivarasa, Tian Chua, Dr. Kua Kia Soong, Dr. Syed Husin Ali, Premesh Chandran of Malaysiakini, human rights and wowen’s rights NGOs amongst others, so no surprise the close relationship between PSM, PKR and Malaysiakini

          I regard PSM as a party of the petty bourgeois (middle-class) NGO-tariat, rather than a party of the proletariat and peasantry, which has close ties to political NGOs, some of whose members are an eclectic mix of left-liberals, confused Marxists and Anarchists.

          On the international front, the PSM backed the recent “Occupy Central” student protestors in Hong Kong, the leaders of which are known to have close ties to imperialist NGOs associated with US-imperialist government interests, whilst some of the more well established far left parties in the west condemned the Occupy Central protestors as stooges of U.S. imperialism, just as I do.

          Amongst them, this lengthy article by Sara Flounders of the Workers’ World Party in the U.S. exposes the roles of the Occupy Central protestors in detail:-

          “Hong Kong protests: Why imperialists support ‘democracy’ movement”

          http://www.workers.org/articles/2014/10/07/hong-kong-protests-imperialists-support-democracy-movement/

          When was the last time the PSM came out with as cogent and critical an expose of the methods of modern western imperialism as the Worker’s World Party did?

          As stated earlier, I have often noticed an incestuous relationship between certain political NGOs, alternative media and seemingly radical parties and that incestuous relationship is pretty much apparent in the PSM’s solidarity with Occupy Central.

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  • 42. Mat Rempit Hubris  |  April 13, 2015 at 8:25 pm

    Dear Ms Ang,

    U ask what happens when unstoppable force (TDM) meets immovable object (PM) ?

    Answer: Simple…BN kalah. Pakatan menang. Anwar keluar jail. Nurul, Kit Siang jadi Menteri kanan. Rafizi jadi Menteri Kewangan 1 dan Tony Pua jadi Menteri Kewangan 2. Iguana Eng jd Menteri Dalam Negeri. Hannah Yeoh jadi menteri undang2. Than they will orchestrate a by-election ala the Kajang Move to get Anwar back as MP. After that they will go on a rampage of vindictive politics and persecution.

    TDM, Najib, TSMY put on trial for any and all misdeeds. Samada betul atau tidak tuduhan tersebut tidak penting. Its not only a trial by the courts but more importantly a trial by the media. Bloggers and other writers who were a pain in their arse will be harassed and persecuted.Helen Ang pun mungkin terkena…especially looking at how LGE and Hannah see her. In TDM’s case they will probably not throw him in jail; the whole idea is to humiliate and emotionally torture the old man. Of course, being the snakes that they are, they will do this while preaching to the public compassionate politics and the need for national reconciliation. To give their rhetoric plausibility, they will probably appoint Ku Li as a Cabinet Minister and call the cabinat either Cabinet Rakyat ataupun Unity Cabinat

    After that, the pillaging of the nation. And once the economy is reeling frm their mismangement, they will say its all due to BN’s fifty years of mismanagement.

    Infact, it wont be beyond them to try and get rid of the royals.Kalau tak serta-merta, than setting the narrative in that directive

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  • 43. IT.Scheiss  |  April 15, 2015 at 5:00 am

    Helen wrote.

    “Therefore, my forecast is that the DAP evangelistas will precipitate a religious conflict. Malaysia has always been afraid of another race riot recurring. I don’t reckon the fight will be over race. It will be over Islam between non-Muslims and Muslims.”

    Not a happy prediction though a possibility but given the relatively small number of Christians in Malaysia, it could turn out to be instances of attacks against churches, like the firebombings of churches which happened after the court first ruled in favour of The Herald’s use of the word “Allah” for God.

    I also expect that if that should happen, the government would respond by declaring an emergency of martial law.

    On another note, what do you think could be the possibility that the DAP would eventually strike a deal with UMNO to concede to certain demands which favour the interests of the Chinese community who largely support the DAP, since the DAP has more or less maxed out its vote base and as long as it remains in opposition party, it can gain nothing for the Chinese, unlike the MCA could as a partner in the BN.

    Also note that as many Chinese businessmen are now its supporters and funders, if it continues to be unable to serve their interests, they will very likely eventually revert back to the MCA, so the DAP will have to do something to satisfy them.

    There already are some signs of that, with Lim Kit Siang’s proposal for a cross party alliance between more secular inclined elected representatives on both political sides who are opposed to hudud.

    In short, what is the possibility of the DAP playingthe role of a “new MCA”?

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    • 44. Helen Ang  |  April 15, 2015 at 12:01 pm

      When MCA hooked up with Umno in 1952, Sino-Malay political cooperation was yet untried and untested. So the Malays were willing to give it a go.

      The Malays were made to believe that the consociational compact was necessary in order for independence to be achieved, i.e. that ruling the country necessitated a multi-racial government.

      It lasted until 1969, broke and was renewed when the Alliance was replaced by the BN.

      The Chinese tsunami again broke the “social contract” in the peninsula. This time there’s a difference. The Malays discovered that they can actually rule without any Chinese participation as shown in Perak – state government comprising 30 Umno & 1 MCA Adun.

      There’s also another difference. The Malays also realised how sneaky the Chinese Christians are.

      The J-Star tried so desperately to whitewash the Chinese tsunami as an urban tsunami (‘urban’ tidal wave is true but it’s still a subset of the Chinese tsunami because the urban areas have always been DAP domain whereas in 2013, MCA lost its Chinese suburban and semi-rural Chinese seats). The main factor was the Chinese swing which in the aftermath of 5 May 2013, the Chinese spinmasters attempted to obscure.

      The Malay experience post-tsunami is a dawning awareness that they’re dealing with a duplicitous and deceitful opposition political leadership that specialises in tegakkan benang basah (“Bak Kut Teh is not pork”, “if you don’t intend to commit any crime, there’s no need for non-Muslims to fear hudud”).

      To answer your question – “what do you think could be the possibility that the DAP would eventually strike a deal with Umno” …

      … I believe that the bend-to-expediency DAP will indeed want to strike such a deal. However the Umno grassroots will have nothing of it. I’ve heard responses like “over my dead body”.

      re: “Lim Kit Siang’s proposal for a cross party alliance between more secular inclined elected representatives on both political sides who are opposed to hudud”

      His method will result in Christians + Others vs Muslims.

      There’s enough support in Umno for hudud. KuLi and Mustapa Mohamed support (they’re Kelantanese and bowing to the climate in their state). Muhyiddin will support. I suspect Zahid may too. Mahathir does not support its implementation but he’s not an office holder and is at loggerheads with the party president.

      Below is the result of my blog hudud poll.


      re: “what is the possibility of the DAP playing the role of a ‘new MCA’?”

      Will Umno members embrace the lynch mob that calls them corrupt, racists, extremists, bigots, haters, stupid Dumno, crooks Scumno, lazy Bumno?

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      • 45. IT.Scheiss  |  April 15, 2015 at 1:39 pm

        “Will Umno members embrace the lynch mob that calls them corrupt, racists, extremists, bigots, haters, stupid Dumno, crooks Scumno, lazy Bumno?”

        Given your explanation of the background to it, probably not, unless UMNO needs the Chinese votes against opposition from other Malay majority parties.

        That said, to what extent do you think the Teoh Beng Hock case has swung most Chinese towards the DAP and if so, how long will the “Teoh Beng Hock effect” last?

        For example, why did the vote in the Teluk Intan byelection swing from a 7,000 majority for Pakatan to a slim majority for Gerakan. Was it because most voters who are Pakatan supporters were working in the bigger towns and cities and could not return? Was it because Dyana Sofea is Malay despite Lim Kit Siang’s endorsement of her and the Chinese voters could not stomach voting for a Malay? Or was it because Mah was a local person, whilst Sofea was an outsider?

        You have spoken before about the more traditional non-Christian Chinese being different from the Christian Chinese and to what extent do you feel this difference exist in today’s political scenario and how do you see this difference affecting Chinese support for the DAP in the longer term?

        Also if some Chinese businessmen who now support the DAP feel that they are unable to get any concessions from the government if DAP remains in opposition, would they not eventually swing back to the MCA or Gerakan in the hope that these parties still have some goodwill and leverage with UMNO?

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        • 46. Helen Ang  |  April 15, 2015 at 3:31 pm

          re: “to what extent do you think the Teoh Beng Hock case has swung most Chinese towards the DAP”

          Immensely. The appeal is very emotive. There’s the son that never saw his father.

          re: “how long will the ‘Teoh Beng Hock effect’ last?”

          Have the Dapsters ever let the public forget about CSL’s sex video or Rahim Thamby Chik’s alleged affair?

          re: “For example, why did the vote in the Teluk Intan byelection swing from a 7,000 majority for Pakatan to a slim majority for Gerakan.”

          All the reasons you stated. But don’t forget internal sabotage. Dyana was leapfrogged over the more senior contenders.

          re: “You have spoken before about the more traditional non-Christian Chinese being different from the Christian Chinese and to what extent do you feel this difference exist in today’s political scenario and how do you see this difference affecting Chinese support for the DAP in the longer term?”

          Difference is one is Christian and one is non-Christian. Commonality is anti-government sentiment and visceral hatred of Umno, resentment against Malay privileges and suspicion of Islam. Methinks what they have in common is much stronger than the departure in religion.

          re: “Also if some Chinese businessmen who now support the DAP feel that they are unable to get any concessions from the government if DAP remains in opposition, would they not eventually swing back to the MCA or Gerakan in the hope that these parties still have some goodwill and leverage with UMNO?”

          Not enough pie slices to go around anymore.

          MCA has lost Umno’s goodwill. That’s why there was no Malay condemnation of Ismail Sabri.

          The Chinese have no choice but to go for broke and put DAP in power.

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