Isma: “Bahaya jika ekstremis anti-Islam kuasai politik Malaysia”

May 13, 2015 at 11:36 am 33 comments

Jika pemikiran anti-Islam yang ekstrim dibenarkan menguasai politik negara, ia pasti mendatangkan bahaya kepada kaum Muslim.

Rakyat Malaysia (mereka masih leka terhadap ancaman yang sedang menular ini) digesa untuk lebih peka mengenai perkembangan aliran politik memusuhi Islam yang didokong golongan ekstremis, pesan presiden Isma Ustaz Abdullah Zaik Abd Rahman semalam.

Sebelum ini naib presiden (I) Isma Ustaz Muhammad Fauzi Asmuni kesal dengan sikap orang Islam yang masih mengalah kepada tuntutan-tuntutan pelampau evangelista dan pihak-pihak pengancam yang lain. Lihat, ‘Islam diancam, kita perlu agresif – Naib presiden Isma‘ (IsmaWeb, 15 Feb 2015).

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  • 1. The Rithmatist  |  May 13, 2015 at 5:01 pm

    Amazing…..the ramblings of the severely deluded.

    They never met a shadow that they weren’t afraid of.

    Wherefore such pusillanimous paranoia? A lack of education, a lack of competitiveness, a history of being “spoon fed” or a deliberate agenda to whip up fear and loathing?

    If Isma is worried about “anti-Islam” extremists, should the rest of the community be worried about “Islamic” extremists coming into power, pulling the levers or calling the shots?

    I think that the US, Europe, Australia etc have pretty set views on this. About “extremists”, that is.

    But that is Isma’s forte – to pander to a domestic audience. Put them on an international stage and watch them shrivel away as the irrelevant nonentities that they really are.

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    • 2. Helen Ang  |  May 13, 2015 at 5:34 pm

      The Isma leaders are educated and certainly more so than many of the DAP leaders.

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      • 3. The Rithmatist  |  May 13, 2015 at 6:23 pm

        Can you rank paper qualifications against paper qualifications? Pedigrees of universities where these qualifications were obtained?

        If Isma is so convinced about the “rightness” of it’s message and agenda, it should take it on to the international stage where there are plenty of pro-Muslim and pro-Islam sympathisers.

        As you wrote, the “Isma leaders are educated”, so they should be able to argue their case convincingly to an international audience.

        Unless, of course, they are “a one-trick pony”!

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        • 4. Helen Ang  |  May 13, 2015 at 6:43 pm

          The Prez – Al-Azhar

          Wanita Chief – PhD, Dr Saleha (academician)

          Ulama chief- Dr Aznan Hasan (assistant prof. in Islamic law)

          Among their columnists are lawyers and other professionals

          Their young activists are undergrads

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        • 5. wawe  |  May 13, 2015 at 9:53 pm

          hey you, cowardly. why bother inviting foreign elements. this is my country. i don’t need others to dictate the ruling of this country. unless, you do not have any faith and respect for this country, that is why you need to invite others to meddle into the matters of this country.how unpatriotic.

          every country has its own set of rules and sovereignity.every country has its own basis and background. why is it difficult for people of your tribe to accept.

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          • 6. AC-DC  |  May 14, 2015 at 4:25 pm

            Why? Afraid of a little international scrutiny? Who is the coward then? ;-)

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            • 7. islam1st  |  May 15, 2015 at 12:42 am

              Apasal pula, ini sendiri punya negara sendiri urus la, apasal nak kena jawab sama international audience, orang luar, tak ada kena mengena dengan negara ni pun, kau orang ni orang Malaysia ke orang asing nih??? Atau masih fikir semua mat salleh hebat dan bangsa agung, insecurity complex ke brader????

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              • 8. The Rithmatist  |  May 15, 2015 at 12:18 pm

                Dunno, brudder….but it seems to me that the “mat salleh crusader countries” are calling the shots in the global political-economic order, with China and India also looking to join the party.

                Mana all the “Muslim/Islamic” countries? Semua “missing in action”, izzit?

                Ikut “domestic agenda” boleh, but when other countries (read “international audience”) comment, jangan buat bodoh or make stupid excuses.

                And who’s got the “insecurity complex”, eh brudder?

                Those who are ready, willing and able to compete in a globalised world or those who deliberately choose to be ” under tempurungs” and claim that they are “special” and hence require mandatory “special treatment”?

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                • 9. islam1st  |  May 15, 2015 at 3:36 pm

                  Kau yang terhegeh-hegeh nak please International Community, aku pula yang kau kata ada masalah inferiority Complex, biar betik???

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                  • 10. The Rithmatist  |  May 15, 2015 at 4:52 pm

                    Your point being what, exactly?

                    Who is having the “inferiority complex” here – those who can live, work, compete and manoeuvre in the “international community” and those who cannot or will not?

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        • 11. RINA  |  May 14, 2015 at 9:31 am

          Nak tanya sikit HH.

          You practise religion apa? Dah fasih dan mahir mengikuti dan practis semua ajaran Agama you ke. You graduan dari institusi Agama mana? I tengok you kalut sangat pasai hal2 Agama Islam?

          Doksah sekadar pasang cross kat leher you, ukir tatoo cross kat badan, gi church on Sundays you dah nak ngaku you expert dlm Agama you sendiri? Macam ada sorang wakil rakyat.. ngaku diri preacher entah formally bertauliah atau tidak dok gi preaching sana sini?

          Ada masa lapang banyak sangat ke asyik dok intai aje apa Isma, Taliban etc buat?

          Kalau takde formal religious qualification, don’t think of even mentioning Isma bole tak? Satni malu sampai terkancing gigi payah pula ya.

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          • 12. AC-DC  |  May 14, 2015 at 4:29 pm

            “Ada masa lapang banyak sangat ke asyik dok intai aje apa Isma, Taliban etc buat?
            Kalau takde formal religious qualification, don’t think of even mentioning Isma bole tak?”

            Kalau Isma, Asma, atau spesis -a ni usah menyibuk budaya, kaum, dan agama orang lain… buat bising tentang kuil yang dilulus kerajaan, dll. orang lain takkan peduli.

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            • 13. islam1st  |  May 15, 2015 at 12:43 am

              Islam, Agama Persekutuan. yang lain-lain kena harmoni dan aman dengan Islam.

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          • 14. HH  |  May 14, 2015 at 5:36 pm

            AC-DC said it all.

            Thank you.

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            • 15. RINA  |  May 14, 2015 at 9:00 pm

              AC-DC / HH

              Kalau tak ada angin masakan pokok bergoyang.

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    • 16. tebing tinggi  |  May 13, 2015 at 5:56 pm

      Most people would like to labelled Islam with extremism ,that very handy isn’t , but most likely to forget extremist are in other religion too .
      Isma view has the basis to ponder especially in Malaysian prospective .

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      • 17. Jeff  |  May 13, 2015 at 6:14 pm

        Most people are extremely cautions about going to most Islamic dominated countries. Other countries don’t evoke such trepidation. Wonder why?

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        • 18. islam1st  |  May 15, 2015 at 12:44 am

          BERAMBUS kan baik, datang pun tak berjemput la brader!!!

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      • 19. The Rithmatist  |  May 15, 2015 at 2:03 pm

        Maybe so, but what’s the common denominator for ISIS/IS/Al-Qaeda/Taliban/Jemaah Islamiya etc?

        And what’s the Malaysian “prospective” (sic) got to do with it?

        Perhaps you mean “perspective”?

        And isn’t Isma just beating the drum for extremist views that have been propounded in the past?

        In other words, no original thinking, but a tired rehash of past notions and “perspectives”!

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    • 20. wawe  |  May 13, 2015 at 9:39 pm

      hey you. you are outdated. here is the latest happening in europe…
      the westerners are also heading towards the other direction. they are just behaving the way isma is here.

      the aliens are never to be trusted. during my last journey in ukay, the slitted-eyed monsters were so noisy on the train. so, unlike the brits. even as a tourist i felt disgusted about their uncivilised behaviour.

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  • 21. HH  |  May 13, 2015 at 6:45 pm

    With reference to the Isma excerpt above, the recipient of their wrath was COMANGO.

    I do not doubt there are religious extremists in other faiths, but state sanctioned ones are pretty much limited to Islam. Don’t take this the wrong way. Just stating the facts.

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    • 22. Abdullah  |  May 14, 2015 at 11:00 am

      CNN Interview with Shaykh Abdallah Bin Bayyah
      President of the Forum for Promoting Peace in Muslim Societies, UAE

      Interviewed by Becky Anderson – translated into English

      Question 1: Why are we seeing such extreme violence in Muslim countries?

      Shaykh Bin Bayyah: This question, I believe, is one that is put forward by everyone, including journalists, politicians, and even international organizations. I believe every individual and every group has their own answer for it. The response can refer back to historical conditions or to special interests, or it could go back to some religious explanation. For this reason, the answer that I’m going to present is my opinion about the matter: the Islamic world is experiencing a great deal of violence, and, at times, this violence is blind: In other words, the violence does not distinguish among people – neither enemies nor friends.

      The question is complex; consequently, the answer to it has to be complex; it is not simple. The Muslim world has experienced different conditions in many historical stages – at one point it witnessed occupation, then relative independence, and then it moved to a condition that we could call “in decline” because of the poor conditions it was in, and because of internal and external conflicts. It is also a part of the world that experiences a lot of poverty and regression economically, industrially, scientifically, and intellectually, and for this reason, we see the ideological differences that arise sometimes. Those differences sometimes vary greatly. For instance, sometimes there are government systems in the Muslim world that correspond to the systems that we see in Europe, which the Western societies have adopted, and this has led to ideological Western winds alighting upon them offering alternatives.

      So this complex picture is what has led to the current conditions. It involves historical grievances, unemployment, poverty, political and social conditions, as well as an “extreme religious element”. Most likely, this question is being directed at that last element – the “extreme religious element”. But the other elements are what form the basis of these revolutionary conditions. For that reason, it is not possible for a cleric to respond or even to put forward solutions to all of the problems, but we can at least attempt to address the problem [of radicalism] at hand – despite its complexity and its relationship to the other problems – in order to convince those who stir up the violence that their methodology and their vision is not a sound one from the religious perspective.

      We can also convince others to not look at the Islamic religion as monolithic and to not make generalizations that thrust upon it the accusation that this [radicalism] represents all of the Islamic religion so that we may persuade them that these people [the radicals] and their behavior do not represent the Muslim religion.

      I express my gratitude to you for what you said at the outset: that you want to see true Islam presented to those who are ignorant of the true Islam. I sense that the American people are in need of having the Islamic religion presented to them, and we are doing so – not falsely – but are presenting to them what we actually believe is the true religion of Islam. Just as we present it here, we present it there the same way. This is the understanding of the scholars – or rather of the vast majority of the scholars, in order to be fair.

      Furthermore, it is also the understanding of the majority of the common people in the Muslim world, despite the amplification of the voice of violence and extremism above the voice of moderation, and despite the excessive justifications of violence over the justifications for peace. Despite all of that, we believe that what we are saying truly represents Islam. So we gathered a large number of scholars with this perspective to clarify this vision to people here internally and to the world in general . . .

      http://binbayyah.net/english/islamic-insights/

      Shaykh Hamza Yusuf – Who is Shaykh Abdullah bin Bayyah?

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      • 23. HH  |  May 15, 2015 at 11:00 am

        Thanks for the link.

        I will go through later. Am having problem with my internet connection.

        Cheers

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  • 24. Mulan of Malaysia  |  May 14, 2015 at 11:57 am

    There is a good new sitcom on Fox HD that all Malays and Peranakans like me must watch.
    It is called “Fresh Off the Boat” .
    I think it is a good show that for all students to watch especially those doing “Hubungan Ethnik”.
    I believe at the end of the season, the Malays and I would understand better the Jalan Perak Cina, Balakong Cina, Jinjang Cina and the Kampung Baru Cina.
    Good job Astro (PS My ancestors came from the boat carrying Puteri Hang Li Po.)

    http://asiapacificarts.usc.edu/w_apa/showarticle.aspx?articleID=19929&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

    http://www.astro.com.my/whats-on/show/fresh-off-the-boat/55223409ae240d4847e92f86

    Jangan lupa tengok Astro Channel 418. tapi kena beli TV HD tau. (Ada sarikata Melayu dan Cina juga)

    May 17th, Sun, 6:05 am – 6:30 am

    May 17th, Sun, 6:30 am – 6:55 am

    May 17th, Sun, 9:55 pm – 10:20 pm

    May 17th, Sun, 10:20 pm – 10:45 pm

    May 18th, Mon, 5:40 am – 6:05 am

    May 19th, Tue, 5:40 am – 6:05 am

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    • 25. HH  |  May 14, 2015 at 9:00 pm

      You might want to talk to historian Prof Emeritus Khoo. The good professor is saying Hang Li Po is a myth. The Ming dynasty records concurred with him.

      In view of the fact your predigree is on the line lest you lose your bragging rights, better sort it out fast.

      http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2012/01/16/Prof-Khoo-No-record-of-the-existance-of-Princess-Hang-Li-Po-its-a-myth/

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      • 26. islam1st  |  May 15, 2015 at 12:47 am

        Best Mulan memang best. Ala online pun ada…free lagi Mulan!

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      • 27. Mulan of Malaysia  |  May 15, 2015 at 10:19 am

        Chill out lah. Hang Li Po itu kisah lama.
        “Fresh Off the Boat” cuma hiburan sahaja. Macam Hantu Gangster atau Banglasia.
        Tengok ketawa sikit, release tension.

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        • 28. islam1st  |  May 15, 2015 at 3:34 pm

          Hang Li Po takdak takpa maa, itu FOTB ada Huangs famili boleh kasi tonton dulu….gelak banyak2

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  • 29. Mulan of Malaysia  |  May 14, 2015 at 2:32 pm

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  • 30. Mulan of Malaysia  |  May 14, 2015 at 3:16 pm

    Australia are so unkind to dogs. Johnny Depp’s dogs would be killed if they don’t go back to USA.
    http://www.nst.com.my/node/84202
    “Joyce said the Agriculture Department would be responsible for putting the dogs down if they do not leave Australia. “After that, I don’t expect to be invited to the opening of Pirates of the Caribbean,” he said.–AFP”

    But Australians can go to Indonesia and sell drugs but when Indonesia wants to putting the Aussies down, Indonesia is barbaric.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-29/22cruel-and-barbaric223a-distress-in-western-new-south-wales/6429768

    “The Vicar-General of the Catholic Diocese of Bathurst, Paul Devitt, told the ABC’s Central West Morning show presenter Tim Brunero that many Christians will be aghast at last night’s events in Indonesia.

    “It’s very distressing,” Father Devitt said.

    “It’s just a cruel and barbaric act to be honest with you.”

    They will be aghast…. hmmm. But for the lives of Indons destroyed by Aussie druggies it is OK.
    Real Islamphobia.

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