Penang tak nak, takut kat Rohingya phantom voters

May 25, 2015 at 12:24 pm 43 comments

Statement today by P. Ramasamy, Deputy Chief Minister II of Penang

Excerpts

[Not in our backyard]

“However, Penang Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng felt that, given the high population density in the state, the federal government should look elsewhere to place the migrants.

“Moreover, according to Lim, Penang is already having thousands of Rohingyas and other migrants, who are imposing a heavy economic toll on the state.

“Hospital and welfare services have been somewhat stretched in the state as result of these illegal immigrants.”

Aiyoyo Ramasamy, “have mercy” lah! So much for the DAP bleeding hearts earlier slamming those who “turned their head away” from the human tragedy

Have mercy

TWO-FACED HYPOCRITES

So now it’s called “harassment” when the shoe is on the other foot

When the BN government turned the boats back, it is instantly labelled “inhumane” and “cruel”. When Penang is asked to help the boat people, the DAP speedily complains of harassment.

DAP deputy sec-gen P. Ramasamy said in his statement:

“I think that the federal government should not play politics with migrants by harassing the Pakatan states like Penang.

“Penang, given its limited financial resources, cannot absorb the migrants as many of them are considered economic migrants, rather those fleeing ,harassment and discrimination by the regime in Myanmar. […]

“The federal government should not just impose a solution by by-passing the state government of Penang.”


Ooooi, why is Penang “punishing someone for being stateless”? His statelessness is “not an option for victim, got it by default upon birth”.

Have a heart, lah. Where’s your Christian charity?

stateless

Why is DAP politicizing the Rohingya issue now?

Didn’t its evangelista leaders say that MERCY and humanitarian relief should take priority over partisan politics? It’s a life-and-death crisis situation, they had declared when they were pressing Najib and the federal government to take in the boat people.

No “pregnant women” in the photo

rohingya mKini3

DAP deputy sec-gen P. Ramasamy said in his statement:

“Some quarters are concerned that the federal government might have an ulterior motive in locating these boat people in Penang.

“Some have even gone to argue that, given the nefarious Project IC in Sabah some years back, some unscrupulous leaders in Malaysia might be prone to start a similar project in Penang just to unseat the Penang government.

“Penangnites cannot forget how Parti Bersatu Sabah (PBS) lost in the elections because of the sudden increase in Muslim population in Sabah.” […]

“Penang people are concerned that one day these illegal immigrants might be used as ‘fifth column’ to seat their popularly-elected government!”


may God have mercy on the racists

DAP deputy sec-gen P. Ramasamy said in his statement:

“Malaysia is well-known for its contradictory stand on refugees. Years back, when Dr Mahathir Mohamad was in power, there was unwritten policy to welcome Bosnians affected by the civil war in Eastern Europe.

“The Bosnians were welcomed, given shelter and other benefits. But eventually, many of them left for their country when peace returned. However, when it comes to migrants from non-European countries, Malaysia can be very tough and cruel!”

[Racist! Racist! Racist! Racist! Racist! Racist! Racist! Racist! Racist!]

LoveDAP

rohingya mKini2

No “pregnant women” in the photo

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43 Comments Add your own

  • 1. Mulan of Malaysia  |  May 25, 2015 at 12:32 pm

    ““Hospital and welfare services have been somewhat stretched in the state as result of these illegal immigrants.”

    But General Hospital, Hospital Daerah, RMAF all under Federal Gommen. So OK lah.

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    • 2. Helen Ang  |  May 25, 2015 at 12:36 pm

      The evangelical Christian elites in Penang not familiar with Hospital Daerah. They go to private hospital like Adventist and Gleneagles.

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    • 3. afendihamat  |  May 25, 2015 at 1:00 pm

      Imagine a BN leader saying something similar…..

      These hypocrites would be on him/her in a matter of seconds, calling him/her various names while crying over Twitter/FB about their own bleeding hearts.

      Dont these DAP/evangelists have any shame at all?

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      • 4. Helen Ang  |  May 25, 2015 at 1:08 pm

        re: “Dont these DAP/evangelists have any shame at all?”

        Hanya BN saja yang didakwa memasang taktik basi dan lapuk.

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        • 5. islam1st  |  May 25, 2015 at 11:39 pm

          Prof Rama mungkin nak terima with open arms pengganas Tamil Tigers je kut??

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  • 6. fatimahkari  |  May 25, 2015 at 12:42 pm

    Sent from Samsung Mobile.

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    • 7. Helen Ang  |  May 25, 2015 at 12:59 pm

      Hantar ape Cik Imah? Hantaran tak sampai, ek.

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  • 8. Pwincess  |  May 25, 2015 at 1:05 pm

    Hahahahahah, best la Kak Helen! You know kak, even if you pointed out such double-tongue talk by the Fu*katan people on a daily basis, especially DAP, their “politically-mature” and “moderate” supporters will never see it that way. Atuk Anwar cannot locate the 40,000 Banglas he claimed were phantom voters but the Fu*katan supporters blamed the media instead. So many examples la kak.

    Can’t wait to see Speaker Hannah “Soalan Mulut” Yeoh to start labelling the Deputy Khalifah Tokong of Pulau Pinang, P. Ramasamy as “racist”, “bigots”, “low-class politicians”, “stupid” and sugar and spice and everything nice. Then the akhbar Bintang will tweet that 20 times in 24 hours. Hahahahahah, have mercy lah.

    “Avoid Divisive Views, Dangerous Ideas”

    Love,
    Pwincess.

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    • 9. Helen Ang  |  May 25, 2015 at 1:13 pm

      re: “even if you pointed out such double-tongue talk by the Fu*katan people on a daily basis…”

      I do. I’m like Energizer Bunny who refuses to let go its juicy carrot on this. But I need to shake off this habit. Not good for my mental health.

      re: “Then the akhbar Bintang will tweet that 20 times in 24 hours. Hahahahahah, have mercy lah.”

      Hahaha.

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    • 10. Helen Ang  |  May 25, 2015 at 1:13 pm

      re: “even if you pointed out such double-tongue talk by the Fu*katan people on a daily basis…”

      I do. I’m like Energizer Bunny who refuses to let go its juicy carrot on this. But I need to shake off this habit. Not good for my mental health.

      re: “Then the akhbar Bintang will tweet that 20 times in 24 hours. Hahahahahah, have mercy lah.”

      Hahaha.

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  • 11. Abd Manan Ishak  |  May 25, 2015 at 1:06 pm

    All of us must believe in God the Almighty. God is fair to everybody as He is the One who created all of us. So if today you help other people, the next day God will help you. We should not find all sorts of reasons for not helping others who are in need of help.

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  • 12. tebing tinggi  |  May 25, 2015 at 1:10 pm

    When the government trying to chase away those boat’s people ,they says the government should have mercy ,on this ‘stateless people’ but when the government gave in ,they say they cannot accommodate them .
    They are just bunch of hypocrite and keturunan lidah bercabang .

    I would suggest that ,every Rohingas and bangladishe ,taking in should be in exchange with those, who felt being deprive Malaysian , any seconder ?.

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    • 13. islam1st  |  May 25, 2015 at 11:42 pm

      Hah, HH, Rithmatist, ACDC pergi la volunteer, the grass is always greener kat luar Malaysia maa…

      Reply
  • 14. bnm  |  May 25, 2015 at 1:39 pm

    Please have a clear understanding on the duties of federal and state government. Issues like maritime security, land security, illegal migrant/refugee, hospitals etc are under federal obligations. Even if Penang is chosen as the place to shelter the migrants, the federal government cannot ‘delegate’ the functions to the state government.

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    • 15. Helen Ang  |  May 25, 2015 at 1:57 pm

      The federal gomen has not provided any details as yet except the suggestion to locate the shelters in Penang.

      CM and DCM (II) are jumping the gun b’cos they don’t want the Rohingyan camps to be occupying any Penang state land.

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      • 16. orangkampung  |  May 25, 2015 at 2:02 pm

        Someone mentioned this before – the Federal government does not need the consent of the Penang state. They can just open up camps on Federal land in Penang.

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        • 17. bnm  |  May 26, 2015 at 9:04 am

          Bear in mind that Fed Gov may own land in Penang. But in order to build shelters, still require permission from state gov. Just like you have a landed corner house. You want to build extension. For sure you need the permission from local authority.

          State gov may reject such construction of shelters. Just like how Selangor gov cancelled the Kidex project (a Federal gov project) because land is under state jurisdiction.

          To put things in perspective, Fed gov may undertake to send back the refugees to their home countries in a time frame in exchange for permission to shelter them in Penang. If the former refuses to commit to such undertaking, why would Penang want to allow the shelter? After all, national security (i.e. sending back the refugees) is under the jurisdiction of Federal gov.

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          • 18. islam1st  |  May 26, 2015 at 11:19 pm

            ‘Just like you have a landed corner house. You want to build extension. For sure you need the permission from local authority.’

            Tapi buka gereja tak payah wor according to Elizabeth Wong of HESI of PKR of Pakatan Rakyat???

            Dahsyat ini baru dah betul2 1st Class punya citizen! Undang2 pun boleh langgar ikut suka hati!

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            • 19. bnm  |  May 27, 2015 at 9:03 am

              State gov has the power to relax or even exempt rules pertaining to usage of land. You may own the land/property. But it does not mean that you may use it in a manner as you wish. Unless the state gov gives permission/exemption.

              Anyway back to my point, the Fed gov should have no problem to shelter the Rohingya in any parts of Msia provided the Fed gov undertakes to shelter them on a temporary basis (i.e. will deport them back to Myanmar) within a time period. We already have 2 mil registered foreign workers. Maybe a few more mil illegal foreign workers. Do we need more?

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      • 20. Pwincess  |  May 25, 2015 at 4:46 pm

        If Penang is too small, then Selangor should help out. It is easy to get thousands of rohingyas to disembark in Selangor, i.e via Port Klang and other ports in Selangor. The Madam Speaker Hannah “Soalan Mulut-Have Mercy” Yeoh would be the first one to camp in Port Klang, in order to welcome and shelter the rohingyas, all for the love of God.

        Kan Kak Helen?

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        • 21. Helen Ang  |  May 25, 2015 at 4:51 pm

          Hallelujah.

          May God’s blessing be upon Hannah (His child of grace, as what her name means) as she brings succour, Nasi Lemak Ayam and J-Juice to the needy.

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  • 22. calvinsankaran  |  May 25, 2015 at 1:50 pm

    This guy is a snake-tongued hypocritical politician. Look at what he said previously…
    ———————————————————————
    PETALING JAYA: Penang Deputy Chief Minister P Ramasamy hopes that the Indonesian government will not sent back the 89 Tamil refugees from Sri Lanka who were detained in Indonesia.

    The 89 Tamil refugees from Sri Lanka were detained by the Indonesian authorities in the waters of New Galan as the refugees were attempting to reach New Zealand.

    “While Indonesia has the right to protect its territorial integrity, it is hoped that the government would exercise humanitarian care in dealing with these refugees,” Ramasamy said today.
    ————————————————————————-

    This clearly shows that despite having “Malaysian Malaysia” motto, DAP is racist to the core.

    This Prof Rama is a known supporter of LTTE the Tamil Tiger an organization classified as a terrorist group.

    You might recall this is the same guy who challenged the Malays saying, “bring on May 13”.

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  • 24. orangkampung  |  May 25, 2015 at 2:00 pm

    Helen, why are you harassing HY about refugees? She got bigger problems than Rohingya today. She got a giant rat of a problem! ;)

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    • 25. Helen Ang  |  May 25, 2015 at 2:09 pm

      Aiyah, giant rat not a problem for HY lah. They belong to the same species.

      How did that Subang Jaya rat get so big? It boggles the mind.

      But then again, this grotesque size is similarly mind-boggling.

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      • 26. orangkampung  |  May 25, 2015 at 2:18 pm

        It’s all about the base, oops sorry, angle, according to HY. (https://twitter.com/hannahyeoh)

        See the pic you posted. If you switched the angle, put the guy in front and HY in the back, then …hmmm never mind. I don’t think it will work with this pic. She was big.

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        • 27. AC-DC  |  May 25, 2015 at 3:35 pm

          Have to also consider that she has had a couple of children. That does not work well for one’s body image. In any case it is funny that Helen makes fun of Hannah’s body weight when she herself is not any slimmer. Hannah has childbearing as an excuse. Helen has, what? Junk food? Spending too much time on the computer with nary a minute to cook healthy meals?

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          • 28. Helen Ang  |  May 25, 2015 at 3:50 pm

            Such a blatant diversionary tactic, lulz.

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          • 29. calvinsankaran  |  May 25, 2015 at 5:03 pm

            The difference is HY is a public servant that is being paid by the public money… putting on weight just a few years in power clearly indicates that power not only corrupts it also fattens.

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  • 30. orangkampung  |  May 25, 2015 at 2:12 pm

    “However, when it comes to migrants from non-European countries, Malaysia can be very tough and cruel!” I didn’t know Somalia and Afghanistan are European countries.

    The main reason TDM agreed to Bosnia is because he knew the Bosnians will not stay for long. He knew the west would not let the Serbs (who were aligned with Russia) win and the west would back Bosnia. Bosnia would get their country back and if we can help them along so that when they get it back they can get to work immediately, why not?

    Now if Myanmar were part of Russia or China, then maybe the US and Nato would suddenly be very involved in the Rohingya issue. As it is they backed Aung San Suu Kyi as she was (like Anwar) a key player who will enable them to get a foot in the local politics.

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    • 31. Pwincess  |  May 25, 2015 at 5:01 pm

      You know, that Aung San Suu Kyi is just like Anwar Ibrahim. All talk no action. Apparently, she was reported to have said that she’s a politician, not a welfare worker but I know she has been elegantly silent for certain. Well, it’s because that she’s a Nobel-prize winning politician that she failed this rohingya issue BIG TIME. She failed to work her way in Myanmar political landscape to deal with the issue and search for an amicable solution. Mind you, she’s the ONLY politician in ASEAN if not in Asia who won a Nobel Peace Prize and what is she capable of doing? Nada, only talk cock. Is that the quality of a person who aspires to be the President of Myanmar? Berlakon lawa je tapi satu sen pun tak guna. Now, Malaysia and Indonesia has to mop up her country’s problem for her?

      That’s why I said she can only talk, play victim and no real substance. Just like Brother Anwar. I really don’t understand why the Nobel Peace Prize Committee felt necessary to award the prize to a woman who was just sitting in her house for many years but when it’s time for real action, she claimed not to be a welfare worker as reported and stays silent.

      The Nobel Committee announced that “to honour this woman for her unflagging efforts and to show its support for the many people throughout the world who are striving to attain democracy, human rights and ethnic conciliation by peaceful means…….an important symbol in the struggle against oppression” when they awarded her the prize. Hahahahahha, bull shit big time!! Perjuangan la sangat!

      Love,
      Pwincess.

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      • 32. islam1st  |  May 25, 2015 at 11:46 pm

        ‘That’s why I said she can only talk, play victim and no real substance. Just like Brother Anwar.’

        Dua2 Agen tu!

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        • 33. Pwincess  |  May 26, 2015 at 6:44 pm

          Kan? Ejen Singapore pon ramai jugak kat Malaysia ni, bersepah2.

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          • 34. islam1st  |  May 26, 2015 at 11:20 pm

            Ramai. Ramai sangat!

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      • 35. orangkampung  |  May 26, 2015 at 12:11 am

        The last time Aung San Suu Kyi spoke on the Rohingya issue was in an interview in Japan in 2013. She sounds like a true politician.

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        • 36. Helen Ang  |  May 26, 2015 at 3:35 am

          It is ALL about politics.

          Whether Malaysia and other countries decide to accommodate or to turn away the Rohingya is ultimately a political decision. Humanitarian concern is not the foremost factor.

          I understand that the first instinct of the Malay is sympathy for his fellow Muslim.

          But realpolitik trumps all. Even when a Nobel Peace laureate is pragmatically weighing the situation from an insider’s point of view – knowing the real sentiments and constraints (i.e. rule by military junta) in her country.

          Politics require hard and firm decisions which are sometimes unavoidably ruthless and even callous. That’s why Lee Kuan Yew was a successful politician. And maybe it’s for the same reason that the Chinese admire strongmen or authoritarian figures. It took an uber dictator Shih Huang Ti to forge China into a ‘nation state’.

          Or else how to deal with such a vast population, and one where 18 passersby/motorists in a city in Guangdong ignored the little girl who was twice run over (first by a van, then by a mini lorry) who was lying on the street injured and bleeding?

          It’s easier for me to understand Daw Aung San Suu Kyi’s video than for you to do the same. It’s because I come from an immigrant culture and China has a teeming population of over one billion. Human rights is not a big thing with Beijing after all.

          I and my fellow Malaysian Chinese are still being asked by some people to “balik Tongsan”. Similarly, the Rohingya are being asked by the Burmese to balik Chittagong.

          The cut-off date/year used to demarcate qualification for Burmese citizenship is 1823 – a year before Britain won the First Anglo-Burmese War in 1824. That means the Rohingya would easily have resided in Arakan for six generations. Yes they remain stateless and are totally rejected by the host country’s native population.

          Despite a six-generation separation from Chittagong, the Rohingya are still viewed as Bengali by the native Rakhine. In parallel, I think “we” remain more Chinese than we are Malaysian. Isn’t that the truth which the Dapsters so adamantly refuse to acknowledge?

          I think realpolitik is the most realistic discipline. Play the hand that you have and the chips as they fall. And that’s why I believe that rationality is the most important trait for an effective politician to have. And that’s also the reason that most sickening polemicist Hannah Yeoh so grates on my nerves.

          Methinks Najib is a good enough politician to roll with the punches. He’s be a great politician if only he can become a war general.

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        • 37. Helen Ang  |  May 26, 2015 at 8:06 am

          Thanks for the vid. I’ve uploaded it here, https://helenang.wordpress.com/2015/05/26/why-exodus-of-one-million-rohingya-refugees-is-a-real-possibility/

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  • 38. islam1st  |  May 25, 2015 at 11:33 pm

    ‘“Some have even gone to argue that, given the nefarious Project IC in Sabah some years back, some unscrupulous leaders in Malaysia might be prone to start a similar project in Penang just to unseat the Penang government.’

    LOL. Laughable. Is Hannah Yeoh laughing yet???

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  • 39. mfma  |  May 26, 2015 at 11:08 am

    I think Perlis will and have the capacity to accommodate the Rohingyan. Perlis’s Mufti have scathingly criticize Malaysian Muslim as greedy for not accepting Rohingyan. http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/because-of-greed-malaysian-muslims-would-rather-watch-rohingya-die-perlis-m

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    • 40. Helen Ang  |  May 26, 2015 at 11:23 am

      I don’t understand the kind of accusation being levelled saying ‘No’ sayers would rather the boat people die.

      When the silent majority is allowed to secretly (anonymously) and quietly vote, as in my poll, then the result shows that 60 percent actually don’t want the Rohingya to stay.

      But if this silent majority were to voice out our opinion, then we’d be castigated by peer pressure or opinion leaders like the Perlis Mufti as being selfish and greedy Muslims, murderers by default, inhumane, racist, xenophobic etc.

      Here is where I blame the media for failing to provide a balanced view and equal platform for the dissenters to have their say. Most of the views and the opinion editorials in the English media is skewed to ‘Yes’ rather than ‘No’ and the Marina Mahathirs, Azrul Mohd Khalibs and their ilk run riot in the columns.

      On the other hand, facts/material like what I’ve been putting out on the Rohingya issue or the angles that I’ve presented do not see the light of day in the media, bukan gitu?

      Furthermore, writers who say the things I have are personally attacked compared to the pats on the back for the “have mercy” Hannahs. This kind of reaction (public opprobrium) is a deterrent to free speech and the expression of contrary opinions.

      In some issues, I believe it is important for our politicians to have the room (insulated space) to be able to make rational decisions to our strategic advantage or protection (in cases of national security) rather than succumbing to the pressure exerted by clamouring populists and demagogues.

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      • 41. mfma  |  May 26, 2015 at 12:01 pm

        I agree about the imbalance of media.

        I believe that there are angles that we are not exposed yet. Up to this point, I overwhelmingly heard two opposing views about the Rohingyan – outright not native (Myanmar’s govt) and outright native (I heard from mostly Muslim). The reality might be somewhere between these two views.

        Tai Zee Kin ask a question a while back. Would any of those who are asking Govt. to take in Rohingyan and Bangladeshi on board take 2-5 Rohingyan as a guest in their house? give them education, work etc for 5 years?

        I asked two of my overly emotional FB friend. One of it say she can’t and one of them just don’t answer. Most of the comment on TZK entry were answering “NO”.

        As for the Perlis’s Mufti, it is because of his criticism that I hope he can put his words into action and let Perlis host All the immigrant/ refugees.

        Re: In some issues, I believe it is important for our politicians to have the room (insulated space) to be able to make rational decisions to our strategic advantage or protection (in cases of national security) rather than succumbing to the pressure exerted by clamouring populists and demagogues.

        I concur

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        • 42. Helen Ang  |  May 26, 2015 at 12:25 pm

          re: “The reality might be somewhere between these two views.”

          Correct. The parameters are contested like what is the definition of “national race” and how valid is the cut-off year which seems designed specifically to exclude the Rohingya.

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        • 43. Pwincess  |  May 26, 2015 at 6:50 pm

          I think that Mufti Perlis tu gila glamour, tengok apa dia buat pasal Ustaz Kazim? Semua benda pon nak komen, dia pon setakat jual air liur sahaja. Turun padang la kalau berani, kalau asyik nak duduk dalam office baca kitab, pastu meroyan dalam media sosial macam Abby Abadi, Pwincess punya bibik pon boleh buat mcm tu. So sekarang dah jumpa kubur mega kat Perlis, apasal Mufti tak turun padang tolong gali ke, baca talkin ke, angkat guni ke apa?

          Seriously, I’m quickly losing respect towards that Mufti Perlis.

          Love,
          Pwincess.

          Reply

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