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May 29, 2015 at 6:18 am 45 comments

It’s raining meatballs …

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The Top 5 peoples in the Western world with the best social attitude and social behaviour are the Danes, Norwegians, Swedes, Finns and Canadians.

Their countries – Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland (collectively known as Scandinavia) followed by Canada – have the highest levels of social cohesion.

BELOW: Sweden’s most famous export

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Live together, work together

“Social cohesion is defined as the special quality how members of a community live and work together,” said the Bertelsmann Foundation.

  • Greater prosperity + less poverty = better social cohesion
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  • More social cohesion = more satisfaction with life + more happiness

Ikea Group CEO Mikael Ohlsson once said in 2011 that he wanted his “co-workers” to be happy and honest.

IKEA

Ikea’s worldwide business is good and Ingvar Kamprad, founder of the Swedish company, was previously among the world’s Top 5 richest billionaires although he has since dropped down the Forbes list.

 3 most important socio-economic factors

  1. National wealth (GDP)
  2. Income gap (Gini coefficient)
  3. Knowledge index

According to the Social Cohesion Radar by Bertelsmann Foundation and Jacobs University in Bremen, Germany, social cohesion can be measured – among other criteria – through the resilience of social relationships in the national community.


Sweden is usually among the top countries in international ranking lists for quality of life and economic clout.

Ikea meatballs

Powered by Swedish meatballs


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Flags of (from left) Denmark, Iceland, Sweden, Norway & Finland

Blondes have more fun?

The Bertelsmann-Jacobs report found three important socio-economic factors associated with social cohesion.

(1) Well-to-do and cohesive

“First, greater national wealth has a correlation to greater social cohesion.”

(2) Equal and cohesive

“Second, a country’s income gap has a moderately strong and inverse correlation to social cohesion, indicating that less equal societies tend to be less cohesive.”

(3) Smart and cohesive

“Third, a country’s level of development towards a modern information society has a more profound effect on social cohesion than national wealth. The higher a country’s ranking on the Knowledge Index, which measures the diffusion of modern communication technology, the more likely that country is to show high social cohesion.”

Source: http://www.gesellschaftlicher-zusammenhalt.de/en/news/newsdetail/artikel/beim-zusammenhalt-ist-deutschland-nur-mittelmass/59/

Social cohesion
http://www.gesellschaftlicher-zusammenhalt.de/fileadmin/Inhalte/Radar_Deutschlandstudie_2014_Summary_en.pdf

Respect the social rules, boleh tak?

According to the results of the study by Bertelsmann-Jacobs, “A cohesive society is characterized by resilient social relationships, a positive emotional connectedness between its members and the community, and a pronounced focus on the common good”.

A cohesive community knows how to respect social rules of coexistence.

See Venn graph above.

(1) Social relations – Trust in people

(2) Connectedness – Trust in institutions

(3) Focus on the common good – Civic participation

Let’s check out where the Dapster-evangelistas stand in this three areas.

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(1) Do they trust their fellow Malaysians?

Hannah Yeoh does not trust Utusan Malaysia. She accuses the Malay paper of selling lies daily – see her tweet above.

DAP supporters dubbed 3.5 million Umno members and their families as “Umnoputras”. Dapster-evangelistas also call the Malay party “Scumno”, i.e. comprising of scums. A scum is a dishonest and unkind person.

Red Bean Army cyber warfare has destroyed trust and goodwill in our society with hate propaganda, black ops psywar and conspiracy theories like the 40,000 Bangladeshi phantom voters (but they love the Rohingya and Bangladeshi boat people nonetheless).

hannahyeoh Very worried BN will send phantom

(2) Do they trust the institutions of state?

Hannah Yeoh was “very worried that BN will send phantom voters out” – see her tweet above. She has little faith in our electoral system and its fair conduct.

Dapster-evangelistas call the police “anjing Umno”.

They do not have confidence in the capability of the Malaysian armed forces and uniformed services. For example, DAP Segambut MP, the evangelista Lim Lip Eng had said that if opposition leaders were in charge of the Search & Rescue for MH370, the missing plane would have been found in a jiffy.

BELOW: YB Lim – a Christian who wants “to make Malaysia a better, happier place for all people”, konon

Blogger- User Profile- LIM LIP ENG


Yuki Tan is wife to DAP Tanjong MP Ng Wei Aik who is former political secretary to Lim Guan Eng.

Responding to the MH17 plane crash, Yuki wrote in her Facebook, “What kind of rotten country is this place!” See her Facebook comment in Chinese, reported by Malaysiakini – screenshot below.

YukiMalaysia

Yuki Tan apologize

Following a public outcry, Yuki apologized (see screenshot above) and said, “Sorry! Let’s pray for MH17!

Evangelistas pray a lot in public. Public prayer is the badge they wear.


BELOW: Hannah Yeoh speaking on her party’s ‘Ubah Sekarang, Bersihkan Malaysia’ podium

HannahYeoh Bersih

Do the Dapster-evangelistas trust the institutions of state?

They think the Election Commission is dirty and that’s why they had to have all those Bersih mega rallies.

They are convinced that judiciary is bought whenever judgment on a public interest case goes against the outcome they desire

They believe the anti-corruption agency will not arrest any Umno big fish. They believe the entire bureaucracy is tainted too.

They do not trust the national education system and are just short of saying teachers in Sekolah Kebangasaan are stupid.

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(3) Do they participate in civic activities?

Which community is the most dead set against National Service training?

During the Malaysia Day 2013 celebration in Kuantan, a little Malay girl had to dress up in the traditional samfu costume because no Chinese child deigned to take part – see photo above.

No Chinese community leader with the exception of a handful from the Chamber of Commerce participated in Pahang’s state-level celebration of Malaysia Day on 16 Sept 2013 either.

But it’s hilarious how their media mouthpiece can and will spin, such as the sleight of hand parleyed by the J-Star‘s coverage of the pro-Palestinian gathering at Dataran Merdeka last August.

The MCA paper, reporting on the event, had titled their article, ‘Malaysians of all faiths and races gather to condemn Israel’s actions’. Which is far from the truth. It was the Malays and the Muslims mostly who bothered to turn up to stand with Gaza – see my previous article where I’ve compiled dozens of photos of the crowd.

The EvangeliSTAR sneakily misrepresented in the very first paragraph of its report by insisting “Malaysians of various faiths and races braved the sweltering heat at Dataran Merdeka” to support the Palestinians.

BELOW: You can see for yourself if the sea of faces comprised almost all whom belonged to only one faith and only one race

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Evangelista’s role in social cohesion

Going by the social cohesion yardstick, what do you think is the contribution of the evangelistas and their evangelical churches to our national identity and solidarity? What is their outlook on Islam as the Religion of the Federation?

Are they connected or alienated from the larger Muslim community? What is their level of civic participation and are they focused on attaining a common good for the country?

On the Rohingya issue, are the evangelistas trying to pit Muslims against Buddhists by exploiting the social rift in Burma and carrying over the religious ill-will from there?

Their loud condemnations of the Burman majority in the name of Human Rights is beginning to foment a distrust and hatred of Buddhists in Malaysia.


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  • 1. Kung  |  May 29, 2015 at 7:41 am

    re: “On the Rohingya issue, are the evangelistas trying to pit Muslims against Buddhists by exploiting the social rift in Burma and carrying over the religious ill-will from there? Their loud condemnations of the Burman majority in the name of Human Rights is beginning to foment a distrust and hatred of Buddhists in Malaysia.”

    >There was once a pair of acrobats. The teacher was a poor widower and the student was a young girl by the name of Osho. They performed each day on the streets to earn enough to eat.

    Their act consisted of the teacher balancing a tall bamboo pole on his head while the little girl climbed slowly to the top. She would remain at the top while the teacher walked along the ground. Both performers had to maintain complete focus and balance in order to prevent any injury from occurring and to complete the performance. One day, the teacher said to the pupil:

    ‘Listen Osho, I will watch you and you watch me, so that we help each other maintain concentration and balance and prevent an accident. Then we’ll surely earn enough to eat.’

    But the wise little girl answered, ‘Dear master, I think it would be better for each of us to watch ourselves. To look after oneself is to look after both of us. That way I am sure we will avoid accidents and earn enough to eat.’

    >This story is said to have been told by the Buddha himself. It is to show that taking care of yourself is the most important thing you can do to take care of others.

    By learning how to nourish our minds and bodies we naturally begin to treat those around us with more compassion, love, and kindness thus creating a more positive impact on the world around us as a whole. And there is no division:- taking care of oneself (in a spiritual sense, not in a materialistic “buy myself things” kind of sense) equals taking care of others.

    Specifically, by taking care of oneself, the Buddha was referring to mindfulness. The Buddha also said that conversely by taking care of others, through compassion and loving-kindness, we ultimately take care of ourselves.

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    • 2. Helen Ang  |  May 29, 2015 at 8:09 am

      re: “mindfulness”

      The best concept ever.

      Aung San Suu Kyi has been silent on the Rohingya issue but every Tom, Dick and Harry is pressuring her to issue a harsh condemnation.

      Daw Suu Kyi meditates daily. She’s a mindful Buddhist who grew up in a devout Buddhist household. And she’s already explained that the situation in her country is “not simple but very complicated”.

      It’s a minefield she has to navigate. It’s so rash for outsiders who see Myanmar in simplistic terms (even tho’ the country is so complex that it has 135 recognized ‘national races’) to demand that she condemn the Sangha.

      There are nearly 400,000 Buddhist monks in the Land of Pagodas.

      Foreigners and non-Buddhists are simply unable to comprehend how Buddhism defines Burmese life just like how many non-Muslims fail to understand that Islam is addin. Not only that, the monks and their Buddhism also shaped Burmese politics – remember the Saffron Revolution?

      She is practising mindfulness and taking the long view. Surely she knows her country and her people better than those who interfere and are trying to dictate to her how she should respond.

      It’s so hypocritical, like DAP condemning Putrajaya but then refusing to let the refugees shelter in Penang. The Western countries preach human rights and force Malaysia to kowtow to their ideology but Australia and the European countries are turning back and towing away those refugee boats that try to land on their shores.

      It’s do as I say, not do as I do.

      The phrase “world’s most persecuted minority” is being repeatedly tossed to describe the Rohingya. But at the same time, they are the “world’s least-wanted minority” too, don;t forget. Those wailing loudest about the Rohingyan plight are not offering asylum, are they?!

      The only countries to step up to the plate are the 90-plus percent Muslim population countries such as Turkey and teeny-weeny Gambia. We haven’t heard of the rich, comfy Christian countries offering citizenship to the “stateless” Rohingya yet, have we?

      Malaysia being the soft touch will end up taking the Rohingya just like Malaya ended up taking the Chinese and the Indian immigrants.

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      • 3. Helen Ang  |  May 29, 2015 at 8:20 am

        Or in simpler terms:

        Do you think Aung San Suu Kyi is mindfully considering what is the best for her country or you reckon that the giving advice freely foreigners like Ambiga and Eric Paulsen know best?

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        • 4. jentayu  |  May 29, 2015 at 9:02 am

          Malaysia would be a lackey boy to the western powers should dapsters succeed in their game of throne. even najib administration seems to bow down on the might of the superpower but dapsters will bring us to a higher level.

          those tok lebai and ustaz in pas are too weak to control the resilient and aggressiveness of dapsters when it comes to exercising power (if the pakatan still exist after winning the prize, of course). they will only be manipulated by the dapsters to control unrest among malay group and society.

          this country will embrace globalization at full scale to the expense of her people. I bet more consultants will be hired by dynasty lim including from Israel as a mean to create a new republic of Malaysia, free from the influence of malay and Islamic sphere.

          rohingya? nah. they are muslim and wouldn’t be a good investment. maybe can take one or two people to show how humane the new republic of malaysia in terms of humanitarian assistance to the world. like how iguana eng always brag how he went to jail trying to defend a malay girl.

          what he doesn’t tell is how malays were drove from the island and the heart of development once he gets into power. better import millions of people from Taiwan, hong kong, mainland china or Singapore to outnumber the existing bumiputra.

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          • 5. islam1st  |  May 30, 2015 at 12:20 am

            Tu la Mimpi Singapore tapi kena import daripada Mainland China nak outnumber local Malays yang beranak ramai. Just to keep the Bumiputera in check.

            I thought gomen Singapore tak praktis institutionalized racism maa?

            Meritocracy My Malay Ass!

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          • 6. Chris  |  May 30, 2015 at 8:03 am

            http://www.tremeritus.com/2015/05/29/singapore-going-down-under/

            Don’t imagine it’s about Malays being sidelined in Singapore sir. Those are stories of yesteryears. Every true blue Singaporean is feeling the squeeze of 2 million foreigners on the little island.

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      • 7. AC-DC  |  May 29, 2015 at 3:36 pm

        We haven’t heard of the rich, comfy Christian countries offering citizenship to the “stateless” Rohingya yet, have we?

        http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/1805003/safe-haven-us-vows-take-leading-role-resettle-rohingya

        http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/19/philippines-offers-refuge-to-desperate-asylum-seekers-trapped-on-boats

        And even the Philippines is hardly a rich comfy country.

        Meanwhile, what does Helen Ang do? She urges the boat people to be pushed back to sea while talking about ‘mindfulness’ and ‘taking the long view’, and speaking ill.

        “On the Rohingya issue, are the evangelistas trying to pit Muslims against Buddhists by exploiting the social rift in Burma and carrying over the religious ill-will from there?
        Their loud condemnations of the Burman majority in the name of Human Rights is beginning to foment a distrust and hatred of Buddhists in Malaysia.”

        Prove it. It is the likes of Isma (your favourite darlings) that are printing articles attacking the Myanmar Buddhist majority.

        http://www.ismaweb.net/2015/05/amerika-syarikat-beri-dana-bantu-suu-kyi-hapus-rohingya/

        How ironic that you suggest the Christians are attempting to pit Muslims against Buddhists, while you try to pit Muslims against Christians in the paragraphs above using ‘social cohesion’.

        Mind you, Sweden has one of the world’s strongest freedom of speech and freedom of religion. They have low corruption and strong functional institutions.

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        • 8. Helen Ang  |  May 29, 2015 at 3:58 pm

          We haven’t heard of the rich, comfy Christian countries offering citizenship to the “stateless” Rohingya yet, have we?

          (i) Philippines offering “refuge” is not offering “citizenship”. They’re two separate words. Are you stupid or what?

          (ii) The SCMP article was one-and-half weeks ago. Where’s the follow-up? Where in the Philippine did a refugee boat land?

          (iii) Are you sure the offer is from Christian Philippines or is it from Muslim Mindanao?

          As for the USA, okay, it’s possible. Wonder if the Rohingya or Alvin Tan will get their green card first.

          re: “Meanwhile, what does Helen Ang do? She urges the boat people to be pushed back to sea while talking about ‘mindfulness’ and ‘taking the long view’, and speaking ill.”

          The long view is that there are a quarter of a million Rohingya camping in Bangladesh. The question is whether the Rohingya will continue streaming out as they’ve done several times in past history, or are they staying put in Rakhine. UN estimates 140,000 left in the last three years alone.

          If they decide on exodus, it is not far-fetched that up to even a half million could be taking to the high seas, esp. after Myanmar’s move to rescind their White Card.

          Is Malaysia gonna be taking 100,000? 200,000? Camp them in the Jerusubang mega churches, can or not?

          re: “Prove it. It is the likes of Isma (your favourite darlings) that are printing articles attacking the Myanmar Buddhist majority.”

          Yup, Isma are. Then the Buddhists like pelanduk mati di tengah.

          re: “How ironic that you suggest the Christians are attempting to pit Muslims against Buddhists”

          As the saying goes: Those who eat the chilli feel the heat.

          re: “while you try to pit Muslims against Christians in the paragraphs above using ‘social cohesion’.”

          The social cohesion article above does not mention “Christian” or “Muslim” or any religion at all. As the saying goes: Those who eat the chilli feel the heat.

          re: “Mind you, Sweden has one of the world’s strongest freedom of speech and freedom of religion. They have low corruption and strong functional institutions.”

          And they have great social cohesion, as the study has indicated. Arhe Hamednaca is an immigrant from Eritrea who has become an MP in Sweden. He speaks his country’s national language unlike some of the DAP YBs.

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        • 9. AC-DC  |  May 29, 2015 at 4:24 pm

          “Philippines offering “refuge” is not offering “citizenship”. They’re two separate words. Are you stupid or what?”

          It is better than Helen Ang’s “push them away” strategy.

          “Are you sure the offer is from Christian Philippines or is it from Muslim Mindanao?”

          The offer is from the Filipino government. Did you read the Guardian article?

          “…said Herminio Coloma, a spokesman for the president, Benigno Aquino.”

          “The long view is that there are a quarter of a million Rohingya camping in Bangladesh. The question is whether the Rohingya will continue streaming out as they’ve done several times in past history, or are they staying put in Rakhine. UN estimates 140,000 left in the last three years alone.”

          The long view is can Myanmar be made to find an amicable solution to the Rakhine crisis, instead of continuing to oppress the Rohingya (the push factor which causes them to flee)?

          “The social cohesion article above does not mention “Christian” or “Muslim””

          Did you actually bother to read your own article?


          BELOW: YB Lim – a Christian who wants “to make Malaysia a better, happier place for all people”, konon

          Are they connected or alienated from the larger Muslim community?

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          • 10. Helen Ang  |  May 29, 2015 at 4:45 pm

            re: “It is better than Helen Ang’s ‘push them away’ strategy.”

            Whatever my stand, it does not make you any less stupid for failing to distinguish between offering “refuge” and offering “citizenship”.

            re: “…said Herminio Coloma, a spokesman for the president, Benigno Aquino.”

            So where’s the follow-up? Was the offer taken up?

            re: “The long view is can Myanmar be made to find an amicable solution to the Rakhine crisis, instead of continuing to oppress the Rohingya (the push factor which causes them to flee)?”

            And how is AC-DC going to MAKE the Myanmar gomen to do that? Pls share your amicable solution.

            re: “The social cohesion article above does not mention “Christian” or “Muslim” / “Did you actually bother to read your own article?”

            My mistake. I’d meant that I did not extract any “Christian” or “Muslim” content from the Bertelsmann-Jacobs study.

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          • 11. AC-DC  |  May 30, 2015 at 12:45 pm

            “Whatever my stand, it does not make you any less stupid for failing to distinguish between offering “refuge” and offering “citizenship”.”

            Both are still offers of sanctuary to the refugees, at various degrees.
            Both are still much more humane than your willingness to let them die on the high seas, while feigning sympathy for animals.

            “So where’s the follow-up? Was the offer taken up?”

            We shall see. The Filipinos have expressed their willingness to provide refuge. If a man offers shelter to a beggar, it is to the beggar’s decision to take up the offer.

            “And how is AC-DC going to MAKE the Myanmar gomen to do that? Pls share your amicable solution.”

            Negotiations with the involvement of the United Nations and other countries. Peace talks. Ending discrimination and oppression to the Rohingyas. The Rohingyas must disarm radical and extremist elements that target the ethnic Rakhines. A little bit of strong-arming the Myanmar government might help; such as suspension of membership in Asean and sanctions.

            What is YOUR solution?

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            • 12. Helen Ang  |  May 30, 2015 at 1:39 pm

              re: “Both are still much more humane than your willingness to let them die on the high seas, while feigning sympathy for animals.”

              If I need to feign sympathy, then why don’t I just pretend that my heart is “troubled”, “heartached”, “heartbreaking” over all the popular causes like boat people, Palestinians and plane crash victims? After all, it’s not as if animals can favourite my blog pages.

              re: “We shall see. The Filipinos have expressed their willingness to provide refuge. If a man offers shelter to a beggar, it is to the beggar’s decision to take up the offer.”

              Good that we know how you regard the Rohingya – as “beggars”.

              re: “Negotiations with the involvement of the United Nations and other countries. Peace talks. Ending discrimination and oppression to the Rohingyas.”

              A pity that you’re not female. Else you can join a beauty contest and tell the judges how you can help the planet achieve “world peace”.

              re: “What is YOUR solution?”

              If I do not have solutions, at least I don’t make squawking noises like “have mercy” or yelp “the killing has to stop!”

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  • 13. orangkampung  |  May 29, 2015 at 9:07 am

    I would assume that Japan would top the list (unless it is not in the study).

    Anyway the totally insincere apology from Yuki Tan never fail to make me cringe.

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    • 14. Helen Ang  |  May 29, 2015 at 9:11 am

      Sorry, I forgot to mention – the study only examines 34 countries in the EU and the OECD.

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    • 15. Helen Ang  |  May 29, 2015 at 9:14 am

      Postscript:

      Agree. I believe Japan ought to top the list if it was a global survey.

      Have you read about the Okinawa suicides?

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      • 16. orangkampung  |  May 29, 2015 at 5:06 pm

        You’re referring to the WW2 battle in Okinawa that resulted in hundreds of thousands death of which a large number were suicides by the Japanese residents who were encouraged to do so by the Japanese military, right?

        Read through quite a few articles a few years back when that became an issue as there were some who wanted to remove that piece of history from their text books. It somehow cemented my belief that the Japanese, especially of old, have a very rigid idea of loyalty, honour and nationhood

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        • 17. Helen Ang  |  May 29, 2015 at 5:21 pm

          More so that they were the Ryukyuan ethnic minority but they chose (or were compelled) to abide by the ‘Japanese’ code of honour.

          The Chinese in Malaysia are in denial big time about the responsibilities of nationhood. Dan bukan takat tu, boleh pula berpaling dan cakap berbelit-belit and being so sneaky about it.

          There will come a point when the fed-up majority will just decide that it is quite pointless to try to argue with people yang lidah bercabang dan tak bertulang.

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  • 18. The Pragmathist  |  May 29, 2015 at 11:05 am

    Thai cartoon on the English Language Daily in Bangkok. What a hypocrite!!!
    http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2015/05/29/dont-visit-msia-if-youre-a-rohingya-says-thai-cartoon/

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  • 19. C72  |  May 29, 2015 at 2:27 pm

    In a perverse way, I rather welcome their attempts to create a negative view of Buddhists here.

    It’s about time … most Buddhists here need a kick in the pants to wake up and be aware of what’s going on.

    Let the chips fall as they may, although I’m guessing it will backfire on the instigator. So please, carry on.

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    • 20. Helen Ang  |  May 29, 2015 at 2:42 pm

      Buddhists and Muslims both rugi, and having our religions tagged with terrorism. You never hear the media say “Christian terrorist”. Now they wanna laga-lagakan the Muslims and Buddhists here on account of the Rohingya.

      The plight of the Rohingya is causing blood feuds in Malaysia and a negative perception of Buddhists and Buddhism.

      Check out the tinyurl below,

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      Buddhists riot in Rakhine and Buddhism is accused of violence. Uncle Sam bombs Afghanistan and Iraq back into the 19th century but the media does not accuse Christianity of violence.

      http://www.ismaweb.net/2015/05/sami-wirathu-mahu-islam-lenyap-dari-bumi-myanmar/

      https://ms-my.facebook.com/DrMAZA/posts/10153362393502990

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      • 21. islam1st  |  May 29, 2015 at 3:01 pm

        ‘most Buddhists here need a kick in the pants’

        I agree. Melayu sudah lama berBuddhaya!

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        • 22. Helen Ang  |  May 29, 2015 at 3:02 pm

          islam1st,

          What do you want BUddhists to be kicked in the pants for?

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          • 23. islam1st  |  May 29, 2015 at 3:15 pm

            Helen, itu C72 berkias maa. So wa agree wor dengan dia punya kiasan. At most I mau depa lebih berBuddhaya macam orang-orang Melayu kat Malaysia ni. Is that too much to ask fellow countrymen?

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            • 24. Helen Ang  |  May 29, 2015 at 3:20 pm

              Maybe we’re all three exasperated at different things (grouses).

              For myself, I’m upset that the Chinese Buddhists are permitting the evengelista agenda because of their ABU & UBAH solidarity with the evangelical Christians.

              The evengelista agenda is at odds with Article 3 and Article 11 (4) & 11 (5) of the FedCon.

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              • 25. islam1st  |  May 29, 2015 at 3:42 pm

                Sebab tu la I mau depa lebih berBuddhaya macam orang-orang Melayu kat negara kita ni Helen.

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              • 26. C72  |  May 29, 2015 at 4:25 pm

                My grouses are manifold lol!

                Mainly stemming from the emphasis on devotional & charitable works (which are good, don’t get me wrong) at the expense of the mental cultivation aspect. It is this lack that leads to a wrong kind of passivity that allows the exploitation that Helen speaks about vis-a-vis the evangelists and Chinese politicians using strong negative emotions to gain support.

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                • 27. Helen Ang  |  May 29, 2015 at 4:36 pm

                  That wrong kind of passivity means by default they are on the side of the evangelistas. There will be hell to pay. And that’s so tak pasal-pasal kena because all the benefits are accruing to the evangelical Christian group and not to the Buddhist (or even the Chinese) group.

                  e.g. Rajiv Rishyakaran was Hannah Yeoh’s Personal Assistant. In 2013, he was given the sure-win Bukit Gasing DUN seat in PJ to contest.

                  You can’t fault DAP for race favouritism there as he’s Indian and not Chinese. Nonetheless there was the religious bias in favour of a fellow evangelista.

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              • 28. What Is This  |  May 30, 2015 at 10:23 am

                Re For myself, I’m upset that the Chinese Buddhists are permitting the evengelista agenda because of their ABU & UBAH solidarity with the evangelical Christians.

                No they are not permitting. They are in cahoots with the evangelists.

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    • 29. Lousy.Engineer  |  May 29, 2015 at 6:54 pm

      “In a perverse way, I rather welcome their attempts to create a negative view of Buddhists here.”

      Why would you want to link Buddhist followers here with whatever conflict that’s now happening in Rakhine or even elsewhere?

      Buddhist organizations and leaders here have never bask into any political limelight locally or outside the country. There’s no need, it’s not the nature of Buddhism; there’s already enough problem here. And there are certainly no equivalent vocal Buddhist leaders in the form of Eu Hong Seng, Abdullah Zaik, Abdul Rahman Mat Dali, Hermen Shastri and Dr Maza.

      There’s also no ummah thing that bind all Buddhists together like Islam. So Buddhists here don’t see Burmese Buddhists as brothers-sisters like Malays who probably see Rohingyas / Bosnians/ Palestinians as fellow Muslims brothers and sisters.

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      • 30. Helen Ang  |  May 29, 2015 at 7:06 pm

        re: “Why would you want to link Buddhist followers here with whatever conflict that’s now happening in Rakhine or even elsewhere?”

        Dr Maza expects Buddhists here to own the Burmese conflict like how Muslims here are sometimes apologetic for acts of terrorism elsewhere that have no connection with Malaysia. See his Facebook below.

        re: “in the form of Eu Hong Seng, Abdullah Zaik, Abdul Rahman Mat Dali, Hermen Shastri and Dr Maza”

        Pls don’t forget Bishop Ng Moon Hing and Father Lawrence Andrew.

        https://ms-my.facebook.com/DrMAZA/posts/10153362393502990

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        • 31. Lousy.Engineer  |  May 29, 2015 at 7:56 pm

          I’m aware of what Dr Maza has said. I understand where he’s coming from but does being apologetic ever going to solve the problem or merely putting up a show of moral obligation? Typical useless Facebook comments would be “This is not the real teaching of this religion… bla bla bla… I condemn their action, bla bla bla… I’m ashamed… bla bla bla”. How would that help?

          “Harap mereka juga ada sikap tegas.”
          Sikap tegas with whom? Does the Burmese government care what Ali, Ah Chong and Muthu here thinks? While we commoners menyibuk with this issue, big corporations all over the world including the ones from Malaysia (i.e. Petronas) are making good money there; it’s a gold mine in Burma right now.

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          • 32. Helen Ang  |  May 29, 2015 at 8:14 pm

            re: “merely putting up a show of moral obligation? Typical useless Facebook comments would be … How would that help?

            Exactly like Hannah Yeoh’s “have mercy” and “The killing has to stop! Heartache …” yadda yadda

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      • 33. The International Jew  |  May 30, 2015 at 10:29 am

        Re Buddhist organizations and leaders here have never bask into any political limelight locally or outside the country

        Buddhist organizations and leaders contribute a lot to social courses here and abroad. They are commendable and worth emulating.

        It’s those lay Buddhists, people who are identified as Buddhists in their identification but who know nothing about Buddhism and who do not practices the faith yet continue to say they are followers of the faith that are the problematic ones. I believe that’s what Lousy Engineer tried to convey.

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        • 34. C72  |  May 30, 2015 at 10:53 am

          “It’s those lay Buddhists, people who are identified as Buddhists in their identification but who know nothing about Buddhism and who do not practices the faith yet continue to say they are followers of the faith that are the problematic ones.”

          Hence, pants to be kicked in. Thanks.

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          • 35. islam1st  |  May 31, 2015 at 1:15 am

            Hence, saya setuju!

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  • 36. islam1st  |  May 29, 2015 at 3:00 pm

    non-Muslims fail to understand that Islam is addin. Not only that, the monks and their Buddhism also shaped Burmese politics – remember the Saffron Revolution?

    Betul tu Helen, tapi Islam’s Addin struggling dengan serangan daripada badan2 seperti NED yang tak mahu tengok ianya didaulatkan.

    Berbeza dengan Saffron Revolution wor.

    ‘Tidak jauh berbeza dengan gerakan Color Revolution yang berlaku di negara lain, gerakan Saffron Revolution di Myammar dipersembahkan kepada seluruh masyarakat dunia sebagai gerakan ultra-liberal prodemokrasi yang paling progressif, disokong dengan watak antagonis ciptaan Barat yang paling berjaya – Aung San Suu Kyi – yang dilihat sebagai duta ‘keamanan’ mempromosi nilai demokrasi dan neo-liberalisme di negara terbabit.’

    http://www.ismaweb.net/2015/05/amerika-syarikat-beri-dana-bantu-suu-kyi-hapus-rohingya/

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  • 37. Mulan of Malaysia  |  May 29, 2015 at 3:27 pm

    Talking about the evangelista Lim Lip Eng. Here is some news from Lim Sian See.

    This is funny.

    Last week, PDRM started Ops Warta to catch people with outstanding traffic summons.

    And DAP MP for Segambut Lim Lip Eng (the guy who famously said that if Pakatan was given control of RMAF, they will find MH370) had so much time on his hand to kaypoh and check MCA President and Minister of Transport Liow Tiong Lay for outstanding summons.

    He then held a press conference to proudly show that Liow had 3 outstanding summons – which Liow promptly paid and thanked YB Lim Lip Eng for reminding him.

    I don’t know why the Rakyat is paying RM16,000 per month (excluding allowances) to our Member Of Parliaments for them to check other people’s traffic summons and then hold press conference to proudly announce to the world they have found others have three outstanding summons.

    I guess this pissed-off MCA’s Penang Youth head and National youth Treasurer, Michael Lee Beng Seng who then got his team (Michael and his team are not elected reps and hence not paid by Rakyat on a ADUN or MP salary) to briefly check a few of the DAP and PKR’s elected leaders for outstanding summonses.

    Turns out the following jokers have outstanding police summons which YB Lim Lip Eng forgot to check.

    – DAP deputy Secretary-General and Beruas MP Ngeh Koo Ham – 76 outstanding summons since 2004, !!!
    – DAP acting chairman and Cheras MP Tan Kok Wai – 70 summons!!!
    – DAP National Publicity Chief Tony Pua – 16;
    – DAP Perak chairman Nga Kor Ming at 12;
    – DAP Treasurer-General and MP Fong Kui Lun – 5
    – DAP National Vice Chairman Teresa Kok – 3
    – DAP Kepong MP Dr Tan Seng Giau – 3

    – PKR Vice Chairman Tian Chua – 53 outstanding summons
    – PKR Vice Chairman Nurul Izzah- 14.

    Maybe YB Lim Lip Eng should also hold a press conference to remind the persons above to pay up their traffic summons.

    Better yet, YB Lim should quit as a Member of Parliament and apply for a job as Official Summons Collection agent for PDRM or JPJ.

    I am sure Liow Tiong Lay and Michael Lee can help YB Lim submit his resume and application form.

    NOTE: Ops Warta: Dispatch rider gets 28 days’ jail for 14 traffic offences

    http://english.astroawani.com/…/ops-warta-dispatch-rider-ge…

    If 14 saman gets 28 days jail, I guess YB Ngeh Koo Ham (who is a lawyer) 76 outstanding saman can get him 152 days free food and lodging courtesy of govt…

    Ngeh ngeh ngeh Nga Nga Nga….

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    • 38. Kuda Besar  |  May 29, 2015 at 4:55 pm

      Those are untouchables in Malaysia.

      Nothing could be done to them, and nothing will be done to them.

      That’s why Ops Warta would not have a dateline. Why?

      Because if there is a dateline, after the dateline people will check those prophets of DAP’s traffic summonses and will find that none has been paid, then it would be embarrassing to the mati pucuk enforcement people.

      Carry gun but mati pucuk.

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    • 39. orangkampung  |  May 29, 2015 at 5:11 pm

      I got really into following that whole traffic summons saga over at someone’s blog. I’m hoping the pro-BN media (ada lagi ke?) will pick up the story and run with it everyday with follow ups until those people are shamed into paying or the police arrests them.

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    • 40. shamshul anuar  |  May 29, 2015 at 7:00 pm

      Mulan,

      The sad part is that the seemingly hugh outstanding of “samans” collected by PRs MPs is not given prominence.

      Typical of UMNO and BN leniency. Why not make a big fuss about it. why not show it prominently in all media. Why not PM or DPM not chiding them.

      Remember, Rafizi is all too happy to cite PM for misleading Parliament over some semantics on 1MDB. Why cant BN got Anwar be scrutinized by parliamentary committee for saying a lot of Banglasia during voting time. He was the MP for Permatang Pauh. Why cant BN play the same game back then before he was jailed.

      Guan Eng said any Chinese who is an UMNO ally is not Chinese. Is that not seditious? Cant BN play it out day and night and turn the table on Guan Eng.

      What is the point for MCA just to publish outstanding samans by racist DAP. Why cant we play the very same game that is DAP’s forte and turn the table on them. HOW? By making it big? HOW? By making it news for weeks.

      SUSAH SANGAT KE

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      • 41. Helen Ang  |  May 29, 2015 at 7:07 pm

        You should be the DG of JASA :D

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        • 42. shamshul anuar  |  May 29, 2015 at 8:04 pm

          Helen,

          Judging from the performance of the current DG of JASA, I believe I can fit in.

          One thing about Najib administration is that he often appoints wrong people.

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          • 43. Helen Ang  |  May 29, 2015 at 8:08 pm

            You’d do swell. Just like we need a war general.

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            • 44. Jade Emperor  |  May 29, 2015 at 9:14 pm

              Najib is fighting a moral battle within his own breast – he is not inclined towards the right side.

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            • 45. shamshul anuar  |  May 29, 2015 at 9:43 pm

              Helen,

              And hiring me will save some money. I will give advices rooted in reality. He he

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