Isma must ask Hannah Yeoh about her “transforming this land” into God’s kingdom

June 5, 2015 at 9:42 am 86 comments

My predictions about the PAS election results were 100 percent correct.

Last week (30 May 2015), I blogged that we can “expect ulama to sweep the board“.

And lo and behold!

I had rightly forecast …

I’d written (screenshot below):

“Very soon PAS will hold its annual muktamar incorporating a triennial party election.

I forecast that Hadi Awang will retain his presidency of the Islamist party.

Tuan Ibrahim will win the PAS deputy presidency hands down. Ustaz Mohd Amar, Ustaz Idris Ahmad and Ustaz Iskandar Samad look set to coast to the three vice presidencies.

Nik Abduh will be victorious in the PAS Youth chief race by a mile. This charismatic son who has inherited his father Nik Aziz’s spiritual mantle is convinced that his party is being bullied by its coalition bedfellows – see Sinar Harian front page above.

The DAP evangelical politicians deserve a bouquet and Thank You note for helping the ulama regain their influence.”

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My scorecard

I predicted Hadi Awang would win. He did.

I predicted Tuan Ibrahim would win and he did too.

I predicted Ustaz Mohd Amar, Ustaz Idris Ahmad and Ustaz Iskandar Samad would win. They all did.

I predicted Nik Abduh would win. And so he did.

I’m able to read the Malay ground far more accurately than the 90 percent Chinese who support the opposition and were pinning their hopes on the Erdogans.

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I’ve been most honest, upfront and straightforward in my writings about our unfolding sociopolitical developments. For this critical analysis, I’m made the target and victim of the sneaky evangelista smear campaign. Because they simply cannot afford to allow the Pakatan-voting Chinese to hear the truth.

Yeah, truth hurts, doesn’t it?

For the DAP evangelistas, the pursuit of Gold, Self-Glory and Gospel tied in a bundle by their Greed trumps everything. And for the feral Chinese who support them so rabidly, well, good luck. You will need it for stirring the hornet’s nest.

See, ‘Dewan Ulama PAS: Cina DAP rata-rata Kristian, lawan hukum Allah

Hannah Yeoh Ugly Pendatang

Self-destructive behaviour of the Chinese

It’s very simple. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction and we are looking at it now.

What do the Chinese expect of PAS members after the way that the DAP evangelistas have been attacking the Islamist party and everything Malay Muslim?

Pihak berkuasa mesti bongkar, sekat gerakan kristiankan Malaysia‘ is the title of an Isma article yesterday.

The Muslim NGO is spooked by Take Johor for Jesus. Don’t forget the earlier Take Subang for Jesus and Take the city (KL) for Jesus either. And now they’re going full Monty with “Malaysia for Jesus”.

The Isma folks have been around since 1997. Tak bising dan tak kacau orang pun. Isma hanya bangkit sejak dua menjak ini sebagai suatu tindakbalas terhadap asakan bertubi-tubi oleh pelampau evangelis ke atas institusi Melayu dan Islam.

Isma: “Suatu masa lagi, pertembungan akan berlaku”

Referring to the Take Johor for Jesus event which went ahead despite objections from Malay Muslim members of the public, Isma vice president Abdul Rahman Mat Dali urged the authorities including the police to expose and curtail the covert movement to Christianize our country.

The last time UiTM tried to sound the alarm bell, the university as well as its forum speakers got a stack of police reports lodged against them.

The evangelistas are slick operators who are very good at playing the game of brinkmanship, perception and victimhood (“we’re only 9 percent, we’re meek and mild, peaceful and harmonious”) – gua tak ‘caya lu lah, puak pembelit dan pemfitnah.

Ustaz Rahman said to Ismaweb, “As only to be expected, the Christian evangelists do not fear and nor do they respect anyone, including the Johor Crown Prince who has already given a warning”.

“The evangelist mission is very dangerous for our national security. The Malays are rising up to oppose and in time to come, a confrontation will take place,” cautioned the Isma vice president.

Ustaz Rahman pointed to the MV Logos Hope which berthed in Kuching, Sarawak and will be soon visiting Penang as one of the subtle ways in which the Christianization agenda is being carried out.

Read also, ‘Jarum halus dakyah Kristianisasi dicucuk The Star

hannahyeoh fat gemuk

@KEVINLOO preach it! hannahyeoh

ABOVE: Hannah Yeoh tweets City Harvest Church pastor Kevin Loo who founded the CHC branch in Subang Jaya

Isma: Negara kacau-bilau bila Kristian Evangelis bertembung umat Islam kelak

Kata naib presiden Isma Abdul Rahman Mat Dali dalam satu kenyataan pada 3 Jun 2015:

“Apa yang mereka mahu anjurkan itu adalah sebahagian perancangan besar pihak evangelis untuk mengkristiankan Malaysia atau disebut ‘global Evangelist movement’.

“Kita kena halang kerana ia bercanggah dengan semangat Perlembagaan Negara dan menghakis identiti negara Islam yang bertahan sejak berkurun-kurun.

“Jika tidak, pasti negara akan menjadi kacau bilau apabila bilangan Kristian Evangelis menjadi bertambah kuat dan bertembung dengan umat Islam.”

Ustaz Rahman is right. The evangelistas are so aggressive even though they are in the minority. As it is, they’re already intimidating and bullying adherents of all the other faiths.

The DAP evangelistas are “moving from strength to strength, faith to faith and glory to glory”. See tweets below by DAP Subang Jaya and Hannah Yeoh.

DAP Subang Jaya glory to glory

Hannah Yeoh strength to strength

Hannah Kevin Strength

ABOVE: Hannah Yeoh tweeted to City Harvest Church pastor Kevin Loo, “May u continue to grow fr strength to strength as u lead a generation of young Msians in transforming this land”

See below, @hannahyeoh: “testimony of building His Kingdom really blesses my heart, from one church to another! Praise The Lord”

Isma must ask Hannah Yeoh what she is hoping the City Harvest Church to transform Malaysia into. “The Kingdom of God?” Whose God?

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PTL hannah

Go tell it on the mountain that Jesus Christ is Lord

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Dewan Ulama PAS: Cina DAP rata-rata Kristian, lawan hukum Allah How very sad

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  • 1. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 10:04 am

    The church-friendly PAS leaders – Khalid Samad, Mujahid, Dr Dzul – all failed to make it to the central committee.

    Exco list below,

    http://cenangau.blogspot.com/2015/06/keputusan-penuh-undi-setiap-calon.html

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    • 2. islam1st  |  June 5, 2015 at 3:11 pm

      Bagus maa, so instead of going to the masjids, they can now focus on masuk gereja bagi ‘khutbah’ maa!

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  • 3. C72  |  June 5, 2015 at 10:05 am

    Aye, “feral Chinese” is an apt description indeed, though it is a sad fact to swallow. They are out of control, perpetually angry and easily manipulated because of imbalanced life – chasing wealth with only a shallow practice of ethics, devotion and intellectual growth.

    The evangelists are more focused and assertive, they have the gumption to grab the leadership role and the rest just follow blindly.

    You see it happening in family units and on a larger scale.

    As an aside, I noticed that HK TVB series nowadays are promoting more Taoist and Buddhist elements in their story lines as opposed to previously where Christianity was portrayed as more positive and modern. Wonder if that is due to pressure from Beijing as one of their new policy directions is to go back to traditional (CPC approved) religion & customs to improve morality.

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    • 4. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 10:12 am

      re: “You see it happening in family units…”

      Yes!

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    • 5. bukan bangla  |  June 5, 2015 at 7:39 pm

      Correct, previously Chinese more friendly and respect nature, mutually working with sea people without any influences of evangelical.

      These mutants came from uncivilized one imported by British under divide and rule program.

      Even in China some billionaire remove Jesus statue and replace it with Confucius statue.
      many aware 3G game only fool game for flat face people.

      End of all we not worship Caucasian.

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    • 6. wawe  |  June 7, 2015 at 9:56 pm

      they are not smart or anything. they are just plain provocative and kuarng hajar. and those who believe them are desperados lacking self confidence resorting to ill tricks to gain suppport.

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  • 7. HH  |  June 5, 2015 at 10:41 am

    Helen

    What is your POV?

    Wouldn’t a hardcore ulama sweep in PAS benefit BN?

    1. Since the ulama has identified the DAP Christians standing in their way of Islamization, would they finally leave Pakatan?

    2. Since the Malay votes had always been split between UmNO and PAS, would the non-Malay votes now become more relevant?

    Cheers

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    • 8. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 11:00 am

      re: “Wouldn’t a hardcore ulama sweep in PAS benefit BN?”

      No. Umno will bleed votes. Ulamas have got a good reputation among the Malays. Cuba banding Nik Abduh dengan Khairy Jamaluddin, bagai langit dengan bumi.

      Earlier last week, I commented @ 2015/05/30 at 11:44 am, “If PAS leaves Pakatan, the party may grow stronger at the expense of Umno. It’s a zero sum game as PAS and Umno have always vied for the same demography.”

      In short, given the choice between the problem-ridden Umno and the now ‘purified’ PAS, fed-up Malay voters may just opt for the latter, esp. if Isma and Perkasa veer towards PAS.

      re: “Since the ulama has identified the DAP Christians standing in their way of Islamization, would they finally leave Pakatan?”

      We’ve always had Islamization. Malaysia is a Muslim country. It is this new Christianization that is a threat. It looks like Umno’s hope of PAS coming over to the BN side will not materialize. I believe PAS will remain in the opposition and give Umno the fight of its life.

      The DAP already has the Chinese and Christian in the palm of its hand. If PAS can woo enough Malay votes away from Umno, the BN will fall. I suppose this is what Tun (and Tun Daim and TS Zam and the rest) foresaw. Not very clued in of the PM to offend Perkasa and take the side of the Peace & Harmony evangelistas.

      re: “Since the Malay votes had always been split between UmNO and PAS, would the non-Malay votes now become more relevant?”

      How can the Chinese vote be any more relevant than the tsunami that has already happened? 90% are DAP’s fixed deposit. It can only go up some more for Pakatan. If I were a BN war room strategist, I plan my election campaign on the premise of getting 5% Chinese support.

      Christian votes? Let’s see Sarawak state election next year. It will be a good barometer.

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      • 9. tebing tinggi  |  June 5, 2015 at 11:19 am

        Should we blamed the evangelist ,for badmouthing the Majority Muslim on ,what had happened in PAS selection .

        In the DAP evangelist played a Major role ,in making the ulama fiction outstanding performance in that selection .
        If PAS is out from Pakatan ,it’s would be better for the Malays ,since they already loose hope on UMNO.

        If PAS is still in the Pakatan ,it’s looks like and most likely, they are still under controlled by the DAP’s .

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      • 10. HH  |  June 5, 2015 at 2:32 pm

        Helen

        Thank you for your quick assessment.

        Quote: In short, given the choice between the problem-ridden Umno and the now ‘purified’ PAS, fed-up Malay voters may just opt for the latter, esp. if Isma and Perkasa veer towards PAS.

        PAS had always their own core fan-base. So do UMNO.

        I think it is just too early to tell if PAS had won over the UMNO supporters with their Ulama victory. Young Khairy is not the face of UMNO, so using him as a gauge on Malay support is hardly reflective of the reality.

        Quote: I believe PAS will remain in the opposition and give Umno the fight of its life.

        I don’t know about this, Helen.

        How on earth could PAS reconcile their duplicity by telling the Muslims DAP is the devil and in a straight face, proceed to jump into bed with them? Surely their Muslim supporters would question the rationale for PAS to continue in the unholy alliance of Pakatan?

        Quote: How can the Chinese vote be any more relevant than the tsunami that has already happened? 90% are DAP’s fixed deposit.

        There are now lots of unhappy PR supporters having second thoughts about PAS. Many oppo supporters I spoke to much prefer if PAS would just leave the alliance.

        I would not say the die-hard Chinese supporters will totally turn their back on DAP, but, things will get interesting in mixed demography with a sizeable population of Chinese where PAS candidates are field. (assuming PAS stays in PR)

        In the last GE, the Chinese in mixed areas were assured by the DAP, PAS is our friend. I don’t think anyone is buying that anymore.

        That means PAS will continue to capture their usual domain, the religious rural folks, but in mixed demography, they won’t savor the unquestioning support from the Chinese as in the previous GE.

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        • 11. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 3:28 pm

          re: “PAS had always their own core fan-base. So do Umno.”

          There’s overlap. That’s how states like Kedah and Terengganu changed hands.

          re: “I think it is just too early to tell if PAS had won over the UMNO supporters with their Ulama victory.”

          You don’t have to tell today or this week. There are still three years to go until the next election, and the three-year term of the new PAS office bearers coincides with the run-up period. So we can say that PAS yesterday elected their Team GE14.

          re: “Young Khairy is not the face of UMNO, so using him as a gauge on Malay support is hardly reflective of the reality.”

          Apart from No.1 and No.2, KJ is no less the face of Umno than the other party vice presidents (Zahid, Shafie, Hisham). KJ is an Umno VP by virtue of his Youth post, as is the Wanita chief. Plus Bersih has estimated that 4 million young M’sians will be reaching voting age. FYI, in the last election, 11 million M’sians voted. So the youth segment will play a big role in GE14.

          re: “Quote: I believe PAS will remain in the opposition and give Umno the fight of its life.” / “I don’t know about this, Helen.”

          Why? You think PAS will be joining BN?

          re: “How on earth could PAS reconcile their duplicity by telling the Muslims DAP is the devil and in a straight face, proceed to jump into bed with them?”

          Dewan Ulama passed has passed a motion to cut ties with DAP at the recent muktamar.

          re: “Surely their Muslim supporters would question the rationale for PAS to continue in the unholy alliance of Pakatan?”

          Maybe. The new team just got voted in yesterday. Wait for the dust to settle.

          re: “Many oppo supporters I spoke to much prefer if PAS would just leave the alliance.”

          Why not DAP just pull out?

          re: “I would not say the die-hard Chinese supporters will totally turn their back on DAP, but, things will get interesting in mixed demography with a sizeable population of Chinese where PAS candidates are field. (assuming PAS stays in PR)”

          Yeah, PAS could lose some of its semi-urban/semi-rural seats which the Nons helped the party to win like Hulu Langat, Sepang and Kota Raja.

          re: “In the last GE, the Chinese in mixed areas were assured by the DAP, PAS is our friend. I don’t think anyone is buying that anymore.”

          Yah lor. DAP tipu orang Cina. SNEAKY BASTARDS.

          re: “That means PAS will continue to capture their usual domain, the religious rural folks, but in mixed demography, they won’t savor the unquestioning support from the Chinese as in the previous GE.”

          I agree that PAS will not be getting Chinese votes in future. The thing is how many Umno seats will PAS manage to take away.

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          • 12. shamshul anuar  |  June 5, 2015 at 6:35 pm

            Helen,

            Many of my Chinese friends are baffled at the development in PAS. Few asked me how on earth politicians like Mohd Sabu was swept away in PAS Muktamar.

            I asked them how do they get information on Malay Muslim community. Which newspapers do they read. How many Malay friends do they have .Real friends, not mere office mates.

            I told them that those Malays deemed as good by DAP are ussually “reject item” in Malay politics. examples are Mohd Sabu. He lost 3 times consecutively, the last bei ng in PAS stronghold itself, Pendang. It speaks volume on how Malay perceive him. He is popular BUT NOT TRUSTED. He is another version of Maharajalawak. sort of court jester. Entertaining but not taken seriously.

            Another being Saifudin. He too being rejected in UMNO. And these are the voices that DAP accords respect.

            How shallow is their understanding of Malay. Most of Chinese do not read Malay newspaper. Their understanding of Malay and whatever Malay aspirations is superficial.

            Chinese are actually are playing a very dangerous political game. If they have not realised it, they better start realising it. They must start using their brain that DAP style of politics that is massive provocation soon will hit them eventually.

            They must stop thinking they alone can dictate political scenario. Last time they tried to wrest control, they ended up being themselves out of government they tried to topple.

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            • 13. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 6:55 pm

              Shamshul,

              The Great Wall of Chinese is impenetrable. No hope, no cure.

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              • 14. islam1st  |  June 6, 2015 at 12:30 am

                ‘Is China still the ‘motherland’ for Chinese Malaysians? – See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/opinion/zan-azlee/article/is-china-still-the-motherland-for-chinese-malaysians#sthash.SHBsDSGw.dpuf

                Zan Azlee should ask his Mandarin-speaking-bahasa-motherland-non-functioning friends instead!

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                • 15. Helen Ang  |  June 6, 2015 at 12:42 am

                  Having been exposed to Rohingya history recently, the idea of ‘motherland’ isn’t all that preposterous as the Firsters like to make out.

                  The Rohingya would have been up to six generations in the Rakhine state through the earliest mass emigration. They “balik Bangladesh” in a mass exodus several times over that period.

                  And furthermore, they’ve intermixed at the border areas.

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                  • 16. islam1st  |  June 6, 2015 at 1:13 am

                    Betul Helen, my Bengali kawan baru2 ni asal Chittagong cakap these people are Myanmarese. Not Bengali. Ramai kat Chittagong sana.

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            • 17. HH  |  June 5, 2015 at 7:09 pm

              Shamshul anuar

              If DAP is so despised, why aren’t PAS supporters exerting more pressure on PAS to leave the alliance?

              Surely an Islamic party like PAS that prides itself carrying out the almighty’s mandate can’t tell their faithfuls; DAP is evil, but heck, if the end justifies the means, we(PAS) can live with it.

              What is your take?

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              • 18. Chris  |  June 5, 2015 at 10:02 pm

                That’s exactly the stuff of Hadi Awang’s politically expedient “tahaluf siyasi” when it benefited him and Anwar Ibrahim to join ventures with the “evangelico-communist” oxymoron that is the DAP.

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              • 19. shamshul anuar  |  June 5, 2015 at 11:59 pm

                HH,

                Make no mistake PAS members hate DAP. The result can be seen at recent Muktamar PAS. those PAS members who are deemed too “obedient” of DAP like Mohd Sabu lost . and lost terribly. And I can list names of rejected PAS leaders. among them Nizar, Khalid Samad, Hanipa Maidin, Husam.

                But the thing with PAS is that its mind boggling hatred towards UMNO surpassed its anger to DAP. I believe that is culmination of decades of PAS teaching that anything to do with UMNO is sinful.

                Its existence is to topple UMNO. and it has one potent weapon: ISLAM. Just like Popes of medieval times who used Christianity to control intransigent european Kings, PAS uses Islam to its benefit.

                It teaches its members that challenging PAS is tantamount to rejecting islam. Hudud is mere “alat” to achieve its mortal ambition: POWER.

                If Hudud is the objective, PAS would be too happy when UMNO shows readiness to support Hudud draft. But PAS instead says that UMNO’s support is mere ploy to trap it(PAS).

                And knowing malay psyche who are able to accept being cheated by those “berjubah berserban”, PAS has no qualm in abusing islam.

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                • 20. HH  |  June 6, 2015 at 12:25 am

                  Shamshul anuar

                  Thanks

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                • 21. islam1st  |  June 6, 2015 at 12:34 am

                  ‘But PAS instead says that UMNO’s support is mere ploy to trap it(PAS).’

                  AS, ni yang puak2 Anwarinas yang tak mau tengok kerjasama PAS dan UMNO ie Hudud berjaya. Yang kat atas macam dan akar umbi nampak kebaikan kalau bersatu.

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      • 22. islam1st  |  June 5, 2015 at 3:15 pm

        ‘I believe PAS will remain in the opposition and give Umno the fight of its life.’

        Hadi on record cakap tak akan tinggalkan Pakatan. PAS tak payah masuk BN pun untuk kerjasama dengan UMNO. Tengok kes Hudud.

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      • 23. AC-DC  |  June 5, 2015 at 4:27 pm

        “In short, given the choice between the problem-ridden Umno and the now ‘purified’ PAS, fed-up Malay voters may just opt for the latter, esp. if Isma and Perkasa veer towards PAS.”

        That would endanger the number of seats held by Umno. In short, the other Coalition parties will have even greater bargaining power than they do now.

        “If PAS can woo enough Malay votes away from Umno, the BN will fall. I suppose this is what Tun (and Tun Daim and TS Zam and the rest) foresaw. Not very clued in of the PM to offend Perkasa and take the side of the Peace & Harmony evangelistas.”

        Barisan Nasional needs the votes of East Malaysians to form the government. Peninsula-style race and religion politics do not work on that side. It is not wise for Umno to try to out-do PAS at the expense of its Coalition partners.

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        • 24. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 4:35 pm

          re: “That would endanger the number of seats held by Umno. In short, the other Coalition parties will have even greater bargaining power than they do now.”

          Logically, the East Malaysia parties should get increased leverage, even to the point of the DPM to come from Umno Sabah. MCA and Gerakan do not have any bargain chip.

          re: “Barisan Nasional needs the votes of East Malaysians to form the government. Peninsula-style race and religion politics do not work on that side. It is not wise for Umno to try to out-do PAS at the expense of its Coalition partners.”

          On this I can agree with you. No point in deliberately alienating Christians in general.

          Nonetheless, there was no reason for PM to embarrass Perkasa. Why antagonize the Malay NGOs (mereka-mereka yang sewaktu dengan Perkasa juga)? Tak untung pun dan bukannya boleh mendapat kembali undi Cina atau undi Kristian.

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      • 25. bnm  |  June 5, 2015 at 10:49 pm

        re: Malaysia is a Muslim country

        How you arrive at the statement? What parameter you use?

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        • 26. Helen Ang  |  June 6, 2015 at 12:06 am

          How do you come to ask stupid questions? Which part of your brain don’t you use?

          Malaysia is a Muslim country because Article 3 of the Federal Constitution says Islam is the Religion of the Federation. And the fact that the Yang Pertuan Agong takes an oath to be the protector of Islam while the rulers are head of Islam in their respective states.

          Our national emblem has a crescent which is the symbol of Islam. The crescent is also on our national flag and on the tengkolok of the YDP.

          We have a state Mufti in each state. We have a Syariah Court system. In our declaration of Independence, we invoke Allah s.w.t. the Most Merciful and Compassionate and say salawat for Prophet Muhammad s.a.w.

          We have the National Mosque, we have the kadi’s office, we have Jakim and all the state Islamic agencies (MAIS, MAIWP, etc), a national Tabung Haji, Article 12(2) of the FedCon allows the state to fund Islamic institutions and activities.

          We have Islamic TV and radio stations (we don’t have Christian channels), Islamic education is compulsory for Muslims, practising Islam is a pre‐requisite to be the MB of Selangor, Perak and other states, and there is also this clamour for hudud.

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          • 27. islam1st  |  June 6, 2015 at 12:40 am

            Betul tu Helen. Wah dulu you tak argue details macam ni. Been reading a lot ke lately? Unlike some people kan…asyik Fox News tak habis2

            ‘(MAIS, MAIWP, etc)’

            Majlis Agama Islam Negeri yang buat dasar reports to Sultan Selangor, Ketua Agama Islam Negeri Selangor dan bukan MB.

            Nampak tak bnm?

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            • 28. Helen Ang  |  June 6, 2015 at 12:45 am

              re: “Wah dulu you tak argue details macam ni.”

              Got. Just that I’ve refined my presentation through practice.

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            • 29. Helen Ang  |  June 6, 2015 at 12:45 am

              re: “Wah dulu you tak argue details macam ni.”

              Got. Just that I’ve refined my presentation through practice.

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          • 30. The Rithmatist  |  June 8, 2015 at 3:33 pm

            So, if by definition, Malaysia is a Muslim country, then the US and the West would be entitled to treat it as an “unfriendly” country in the event of any untoward happenings?

            Maybe it is all theoretical at this stage, but would the Isma intelligentsia care to comment on the ramifications of such a perception by countries who may not be particularly sympathetic towards Islam and Muslim countries?

            After all, there is such a thing as biting off more than you can chew or digest.

            It may apply nationally, but it applies even more so internationally.

            The picking and choosing of sides in any possible upcoming “culture wars” should be an interesting spectacle.

            As for the PAS move to increasing conservatism and religiosity, it is appropriate to note what Dr James Chin, director of the Asia Institute at the University of Tasmania, has said about Datuk Seri Abdul Hadi Awang – “he is a strong believer in Malay and Islamic supremacy, thus he is willing to talk about cooperating with Umno to rule. He does not believe in pluralism or multiculturalism… He does not believe in giving political rights to non-Muslims (Singapore Straits Time report “What drives PAS leader’s religiosity” June 8, 2015).

            Enough said.

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  • 31. Jeff  |  June 5, 2015 at 10:48 am

    “The evangelist mission is very dangerous for our national security. The Malays are rising up to oppose and in time to come, a confrontation will take place,” cautioned the Isma vice president.

    A clear threat by this weak minded individual. Is this how a civilised society behaves? Say what you want about the evangelicals, and I am not a fan of theirs either, but at least they have not reverted to such juvenile behaviour. Najib, do us all a favour and lock up this idiot from Isma and throw away the key.

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    • 32. islam1st  |  June 5, 2015 at 3:20 pm

      ‘Najib, do us all a favour and lock up this idiot from Isma and throw away the key.’

      Wow, how civilised?!

      ‘Is this how a civilised society behaves?’

      No this is how… [YouTube]

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      • 33. The Rithmatist  |  June 8, 2015 at 3:45 pm

        Heh, heh….black ops, extreme rendition and undisclosed prison locations, anyone?

        Guantanamo Bay is still around.

        A US Republican President, backed by a right-wing US Congress, would be more than inclined to confront those “idiots”, with the tacit, if not explicit, backing from the usual parties who subscribe to the notion of “culture wars” et al.

        It’s a nice little conundrum, isn’t it? An increasingly assertive and militarised China that is not particularly sympathetic towards any religion, a Hindu-nationalist India, a Japan looking to relive the glory days of Shintoism and a nascent right-wing US Administration – none of which are likely to be sympathetic to wannabe upstart “powers” in the region who subscribe to antagonistic notions of religiosity.

        Who will be the first to blink?

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  • 34. orangkampung  |  June 5, 2015 at 11:04 am

    I read this and the first person I thought of was HY. Somehow I think she is our version of Christian –

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  • 35. islam1st  |  June 5, 2015 at 3:07 pm

    ‘The Isma folks have been around since 1997. Tak bising dan tak kacau orang pun.’

    Kalau diam dikatakan bodo maa. Orang yang kuat buat bising dipandang tinggi maa. Cakap suara mesti jerit-jerit kasi orang lain tengok, takut, hormat. Tapi bila orang lain buat perkara yang sama, especially the ‘stupid Malays’, tak bley-tak bley. Sampai sanggup menipu macam Eli, Kim Kong, Chin Huat dan Chun Wai.

    Apa lagi Cina mahu?

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    • 36. The Rithmatist  |  June 8, 2015 at 4:54 pm

      When you run out of ideas to enthuse and motivate your grassroots, what do you do?

      Trot out the spectre of the “Christian bogeyman”, that’s what you do.

      Or, in the Helen-parlance, should that be “Christian bogeywoman”?

      If the Isma folks have been around since 1997, they haven’t gained very much knowledge about how the modern world functions.

      Or, maybe, they have quickly adapted to using the Internet and the tools of social media (the works of Satan, anyone?) to spread their beliefs and to convince others to join their movement (I was about to write “cult”, but that would be hitting below the belt – as when Helen took umbrage when I wrote about Rohingya women refugees being raped).

      There’s nothing like using the technology “spawned” by the “crusader mat salleh nations” to further your own objectives and to turn the “oppressed” against the “oppressors”)!

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      • 37. afendihamat  |  June 8, 2015 at 9:33 pm

        Trout out the specter of the “Muslim fundamentalist” or “Malay racist”…
        Familiar?

        Make the loudest noise, bang up the catch words…”justice”, “equality”, “universal human rights” etc..
        Familiar?

        Flood the media, control the discourse, rework history….the “meek and oppressed” can paint others who disagree as “backwards”, “oppressive”, “divisive”..
        Familiar?

        Stop the hypocrisy please, it’s nauseating.

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  • 38. EVLee  |  June 5, 2015 at 3:28 pm

    Out of Topic – sorry Boss Helen
    My entry: https://helenang.wordpress.com/2015/05/23/i-love-pm-pusingan-ke-2/
    Based on a much older news:
    1. “It was then Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad who recommended to Mandela to hire Lim for the massive exercise … ”
    I’m pretty sure that Tun M did not recommend LKW to DSN, this time around.

    You’ll get the rest of the story ref: http://chedet.cc/?p=1737
    Just to keep you updated … bye.

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  • 39. KOJEK  |  June 5, 2015 at 4:41 pm

    Madam Helen, beside being a blogger, you really a talented fortune teller! Gua caya lah!!

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    • 40. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 4:50 pm

      Okay, gazing into my crystal ball, Madam Helen can see that Hannah Yeoh will put on at least 15 lbs more by the end of the year. ‘Caya tak?

      And by next year, she’ll probably be taking Botox for all those sagging folds around her neck.

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  • 41. Surrhead  |  June 5, 2015 at 4:51 pm

    umno needs the minority christians to keep the rural muslims afraid and stupid….a muslim’s boogeyman are christians

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    • 42. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 5:11 pm

      Umno creating a bogeyman? Hullo?! It is PAS and Isma and many Muslim NGOs that are upset.

      The president of Umno, on the other hand, sat down for a banquet at a bintang lima hotel with the evangelistas just a few nights ago.

      Also how do you explain the actions of the China authorities against any display of the cross on churches, and the demolition of at least a hundred churches in China’s most Christian province in 2014 (over the last year)?

      Can’t cry “racism” in this instance as it’s directive from Chinese officials on action to be taken against fellow Chinese. And it’s not a bogeyman either.

      The Chinese communist leadership is more wary of some religions than others. They crack down on the Buddhists in Tibet and the Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang but they are most freaked out by the evangelical Christians.

      Definition:

      “Evangelicals are Christians who (1) believe in the centrality of the conversion or ‘born again’ experience in receiving salvation; (2) believe in the authority of the Bible as God’s revelation to humanity; and (3) have a strong commitment to evangelism or sharing the Christian message.” http://www.pewforum.org/2011/12/19/global-christianity-movements-and-denominations/

      Today the evangelical Christians make up more than a quarter of the world Christian population.

      Evangelism is spreading like wildfire worldwide. The traditional Christians in Latin America who are Catholics are being creeped out too by the evangelical Christians.

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      • 43. Surrhead  |  June 5, 2015 at 6:58 pm

        It’s Isma and other umno directed NGOs are causing the upset.

        BTW, testicless najib did attend with evangelistas and announced that the “pendatang” issue should be put to rest. Dare he says it in perhimpunan agung umno? or the main stream media?? hullo, najib being a slimeball…, sorry, slime is just being another politician with trying to garner support with rhetoric talks.

        Let’s not worry about china….we are malaysians

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        • 44. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 7:06 pm

          re: “It’s Isma and other umno directed NGOs are causing the upset.”

          Firstly, it is the Dewan Ulama PAS that is upset with the DAP evangelistas and its Timbalan Ketua said so at the muktamar. Beyond the Dewan Ulama, other PAS people too are freaked out by the DAP evangelistas, for example Hadi Awang and his supporters.

          Secondly, what J-Juice have you been drinking to claim that Isma is an Umno-directed NGO? I’ve not seen any report of any public function held that has Isma together with Najib, or even with the other Umno VPs like Zahid & Co. Furthermore, Khairy likened Isma to Boko Haram.

          And pray tell, which Muslim NGOs are “Umno-directed”? I can agree with you that some NGOs are aligned with Umno but we’re talking here specifically the “Islamic” ones with whom evangelistas are an issue. I’ve so far never heard any significant Umno politician talk about evangelistas.

          (3) How is it that you people can so divorce yourself from reality and simply make any claim or allegation as you please?

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          • 45. islam1st  |  June 6, 2015 at 12:51 am

            ‘How is it that you people can so divorce yourself from reality and simply make any claim or allegation as you please?’

            Eli kata HESI lebih tinggi daripada undang-undang sedia ada. Lebih tinggi daripada akta kanun tanah negara. Ini tipu!

            Kim Kong kata, kat Malaysia penganut Kristian boleh bina gereja kat mana-mana saja sebab Malaysia ada kebebasan beragama lebih tinggi daripada Singapura dan US. Ini tipu!

            Pasal dua lagi Wong tu, rasa Helen pun kenal macam mana kan?

            sneaky bastards and they expect the Malays to be reasonable. Kelakar. Sebelum ini belum reasonable enough ke? 2 MILLION WOR!

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            • 46. Helen Ang  |  June 6, 2015 at 12:54 am

              re: “Sebelum ini belum reasonable enough ke? 2 MILLION WOR!”

              Any regrets?

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              • 47. islam1st  |  June 6, 2015 at 1:16 am

                Bitter sweets. Regrets? Sad.

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        • 48. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 7:06 pm

          re: “It’s Isma and other umno directed NGOs are causing the upset.”

          Firstly, it is the Dewan Ulama PAS that is upset with the DAP evangelistas and its Timbalan Ketua said so at the muktamar. Beyond the Dewan Ulama, other PAS people too are freaked out by the DAP evangelistas, for example Hadi Awang and his supporters.

          Secondly, what J-Juice have you been drinking to claim that Isma is an Umno-directed NGO? I’ve not seen any report of any public function held that has Isma together with Najib, or even with the other Umno VPs like Zahid & Co. Furthermore, Khairy likened Isma to Boko Haram.

          And pray tell, which Muslim NGOs are “Umno-directed”? I can agree with you that some NGOs are aligned with Umno but we’re talking here specifically the “Islamic” ones with whom evangelistas are an issue. I’ve so far never heard any significant Umno politician talk about evangelistas.

          (3) How is it that you people can so divorce yourself from reality and simply make any claim or allegation as you please?

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    • 49. orangkampung  |  June 5, 2015 at 5:40 pm

      The rural older muslims do not need christian boogeyman. We still have strong memories of the communists, and not surprisingly many still equate DAP with the communists.

      Urbanites have this strange views of the rural (kampung) people. It’s like we are a totally different species from another dimension who are totally out of touch with what is happening in the rest of the world. They speak of the rural folks like we are some hillbillies who sit around and chew sireh and roll rokok daun and totally lost in mat jenin land.

      Hello, the rural folks are not under a tempurung anymore but you urbanites sure live under a glass dome. You can see out but your view seems to be skewed.

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      • 50. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 5:42 pm

        re: “We still have strong memories of the communists”

        Share pls.

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        • 51. orangkampung  |  June 5, 2015 at 6:40 pm

          This is from my mom. She was about 10 during the Bintang Tiga 14-day reign. They erected a platform in the centre of town. It was near the market. Everyday there would be men and women tied up on the platform, almost all Chinese. The Bintang Tiga in uniform would prod them and smack them and kick at them. At times she saw them stubbing those people with burning cigarettes. They would be telling the crowds about the crimes of those people in their dialect.

          At night the young women would go for a sleepover at some other place where they feel secured. She recalled some young male family members who were taken away at night never to be seen again. In my kampung almost every elder person has a family member or two who were killed or maimed or kidnapped by the communists. And for my mom’s generation, LKS is the face of the communist Bintang Tiga.

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          • 52. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 7:17 pm

            re: “Every day there would be men and women tied up on the platform, almost all Chinese. The Bintang Tiga in uniform would prod them and smack them and kick at them. At times she saw them stubbing those people with burning cigarettes.”

            The Bintang Lima do the same. Only they don’t use bayonets but digital gadgets. But the same brutality is there. And likewise they’re angrier at fellow Chinese who refuse to toe their line.

            re: “They would be telling the crowds about the crimes of those people in their dialect.”

            Like HY and HH writing in hanzi (Chinese characters) sniping at Mulan.

            re: “In my kampung almost every elder person has a family member or two who were killed or maimed or kidnapped by the communists.”

            Uh-huh. A menace to society.

            re: “And for my mom’s generation, LKS is the face of the communist Bintang Tiga.”

            I’m aware of this phenomenon but I find it strange (not making sense) nonetheless. There must be a missing link or trick of memory. Emergency ended 1960. Kit Siang won a seat for the first time in 1969, I believe.

            But the Dapsterism trait in Grandpapa, Papa and Mama is without doubt.

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            • 53. HH  |  June 5, 2015 at 7:43 pm

              Helen

              Quote: Like HY and HH writing in hanzi (Chinese characters) sniping at Mulan

              Taking sides eh?

              Perhaps you should ask why Mulan in bad faith posted Joshua Wong’s Chinese fb comment and lied about the contents being detrimental about Malaysia?

              i’ve asked her to point out where in the article did JW scolded Malaysia as she alleged. She never did.

              You have no problem commentators knowingly disseminate lies on your blog but adamant about truths being told by not ‘your kind’.?

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              • 54. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 7:49 pm

                re: “Taking sides eh?”

                Has she ever been as nasty to you in her comments?

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                • 55. HH  |  June 5, 2015 at 8:29 pm

                  Is applying chengyu (Chinese idioms) meaning ‘batu api’ on her really that nasty?

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                  • 56. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 8:30 pm

                    What about HY’s comment in your exchange?

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                    • 57. HY  |  June 5, 2015 at 10:07 pm

                      helen, my exchanged / name calling with mulan n ak47 start not yesterday. unlike u, mulan do read hanzi.

                    • 58. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 10:15 pm

                      I think your sneering is nasty.

                    • 59. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 10:15 pm

                      I think your sneering is nasty.

                    • 60. HY  |  June 5, 2015 at 10:29 pm

                      yes i am. bec her many writes are very insulting, from a chinese historical, cultural and language context. i would refraint from doing the same if u think i am too much. my bad.

                    • 61. islam1st  |  June 6, 2015 at 12:56 am

                      ‘Like HY and HH writing in hanzi (Chinese characters) sniping at Mulan.’

                      Tu la siap panggil dia nyonya, perhaps not Cina enough, eh, like them. Helen pun dulu pernah kena label nyonya juga. Ye la got some Malay blood, sure stupid etc etc kan..

                      Tapi bila orang sebut pendatang jer, meroyan satu dunia!

                    • 62. Helen Ang  |  June 6, 2015 at 1:13 am

                      Peranakan and Nyonya are used interchangeably. But as far as I’m aware, I’ve no Malacca connections.

                      HY does appear to dislike the Baba-Nyonyas as much as some people dislike the mamaks.

                    • 63. islam1st  |  June 6, 2015 at 1:23 am

                      ‘HY does appear to dislike the Baba-Nyonyas as much as some people dislike the mamaks.’

                      And these are the Malaysian Firsters mind you. How laughable.

                      And the mamak bashing-mana kita boleh lupa sama itu Casey!

                      While the Malays dah berkurun kahwin campur kat motherland dengan macam2 bangsa, some people wants everything of themselves ony. Undi included!

                    • 64. HH  |  June 6, 2015 at 9:45 am

                      Helen, Islam1st

                      What are all these disingenuous intimations HY and I discriminating the Nyonyas and Babas?

                      Mulan has never attempted to hide her contempt and disdain for the Chinese.

                      So, no point for you 2 to try to be her apologist.

                      If Islam1st knows what he is talking about, he would know M never thought of herself as Chinese, the Chinese according to her are ldescendants from low class coolies.

                      https://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/11/17/kenapa-mca-mahu-mengheret-orang-cina-masuk-persengketaan-allah/

                    • 65. Helen Ang  |  June 6, 2015 at 9:54 am

                      (1) I did not say you, I only said HY.

                      (2) With HY, I don’t feel that his animus is directed at Mulan alone. On some occasions, his ‘Nyonya’ snipes were aimed at me as well. Maybe if there was a Baba on this forum, de poor fler will kena too.

              • 66. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 8:28 pm

                I’ve just checked on your beef. I wish Mulan had answered you herself but never mind, I will do so since you accuse me of having “no problem [with] commentators knowingly disseminate lies on your blog”.

                Your accusation is too much.

                In Mulan’s comment @ 2015/06/01 at 5:08 pm,
                she linked an FB and she said it was “Joshua Wong scolding Malaysian government”.

                In effect (apart from the link and copypaste), Mulan’s comment was only 5 words.

                The closest I can find to her description scolding gomen is JW’s complaint that he’s blacklisted and Malaysia will not let him in, caused him a lot of inconvenience, and his opinion that the ruling party in Malaysia continues to suppress opposition and that some governments are still between semi-democratic and totalitarian.

                How far off is it, if Mulan had said – JW voicing his dissatisfaction with the M’sian gomen (over the way he was sent back)?

                So it’s Mulan’s opinion that his long-winded grumbling is a “scold”. And you allege that she’s “knowingly disseminat[ing] lies on [my] blog?”

                Does the distance between understanding the meaning of /scolding/ and /grumbling/ constitute “knowingly disseminating lies” to you? It smell more like your taste for BKT.

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                • 67. HH  |  June 5, 2015 at 9:46 pm

                  This is the part Mulan translated ..

                  坦白說,我對馬來西亞的民主運動還是一知半解,但也大概知道執政黨不斷打壓反對黨,至少民主國家慣運看到政黨輪替還是在馬來西亞難以遇見,但六四按道理又跟馬來西亞政府無關,雨傘運動表面來看也跟馬來西亞政府沒甚麼利益衝突,不管人大831決定會否被撤回,也對你們的威模管治沒絲毫直接影響(當然你說間接激發當地人堅持抗爭則另作別論),但結論就是本來在雨傘運動拋頭露面的學生,只去不到中國大陸和澳門,但今天便新增了一個地方:馬來西亞。”

                  Frankly speaking, I do not know much about the democratic movements in Malaysia, but from what I gather, the ruling party has been coming down hard on the oppositions.
                  The continuance of having one ruling party in power all these years is quite a rarity in a democratic system, but by reasoning, the Tianamen Square protest has nothing to do with the Malaysian government, neither does the (HK) Umbrella Movement pose any direct conflict, (with the Malaysian government. ) nor the possible dissolution of NPC 831 (HK), has any impact on them. (Malaysian government) (Of course if these movements may indirectly inspire the locals is another question)
                  In conclusion, those faces in the forefront of the Umbrella Movement are not allowed into China and Macao, but today there is an addition to the restriction list: Malaysia.

                  This is my direct translation.

                  When someone says some Chinese kid (albeit from HK) is scolding their country, (which is hardly true) what purpose does that serve apart from adding fuel to the rage the Malay commentators already had against the Chinese?

                  Have you written about JW? No. How many times had Mulan kept pushing the JW agenda in her numerous comments? You tell me. You’re the one with ‘photographic memory.’ [sic]

                  Batu api is an apt description.

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                  • 68. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 10:09 pm

                    (1) JW’s complaint: “… Umbrella Movement are not allowed into China and Macao, but today there is an addition to the restriction list: Malaysia”

                    (2) JW: “the ruling party has been coming down hard on the oppositions. The continuance of having one ruling party in power all these years is quite a rarity in a democratic system”

                    So JW made a negative assessment of current ruling party which Mulan has interpreted as to “scold”.

                    The Dapster-evangelistas whom I said were “stalking” me had labelled my writing a “rant“.

                    We all use subjective words. Not everyone will agree with the user’s opinion that the subject/object falls within the ambit of “scold” or “stalk” or “rant”.

                    When I approved Mulan’s comment, the word “scold” did not strike me as contentious. Obviously with so many commenters, these individuals would be of varying degrees on the subjectivity scale. I really don’t have the energy to project or appraise at what level each commenter means for the words he/she uses.

                    Sometime this month, I censored one word “sembelih” (the rest of the comment was however passed) which I thought might cause some detractors to take issue or to contend that the word was meant literally.

                    But I wouldn’t go so far as to accuse Mulan of deliberately/knowingly disseminating lies just because she used the word “scold” to describe JW’s Facebook entry. As to pushing an agenda on JW, I will agree with you that she has.

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                    • 69. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 10:13 pm

                      POSTSCRIPT:

                      I will shoulder part of the blame for JW’s frequent appearance in the comment section because I had responded to Mulan’s link by saying that he looked “creepy”, and I also found Mulan’s reference to JW as Tian Chua’s “mini me” witty and hilarious.

                      So if Mulan made numerous comments, it’s also because the blog admin (me) responded to her comments. My fault. It takes two to clap.

                    • 70. islam1st  |  June 6, 2015 at 1:02 am

                      Helen, bukan ke puak2 ni dulu yang cakap kebebasan berekspresi itu paramount. Cakap apa pun boleh. Hina Nabi, hina agama etc. Case in point masa Charlie Hebdo dulu?

                      Tapi Mulan ‘hyperbole’ kan sikit pasal so Joshua, apasal depa marah sangat? Kena batang hidung ke? Sakit hati sebab tak boleh breakfast dengan Joshua?

                    • 71. HH  |  June 6, 2015 at 10:11 am

                      Islam1st

                      I’m all for free speech.

                      You constantly troll me but did I mengamuk? Did I try to curtail your trolling one liners?

                      Sila, sila….

                      Cheers

                    • 72. islam1st  |  June 6, 2015 at 6:40 pm

                      ‘ Did I try to curtail your trolling one liners? ‘

                      Apasat, butthurt ke, you cerdik pandai kakis can’t handle my oneliner is it?

    • 73. islam1st  |  June 6, 2015 at 12:45 am

      ‘rural muslims afraid and stupid’

      OK duk kat rural pun tapi nampak macam lagi bijak macam ko. Tak tabik juga kat kau sebab dah tukar label, melayu tu kepada muslims.

      Dulu kata ‘rural malays afraid and stupid’. Baguih2

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      • 74. Helen Ang  |  June 6, 2015 at 12:52 am

        Words that the Dapster-evangelistas like to apply on Malays – “Dumno”, “stupid”, “moron”, “ignoramus”.

        Leadership by example

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        • 75. islam1st  |  June 6, 2015 at 1:04 am

          Saya dah masak sangat dengan puak2 ni Helen. Stupid tu keyword for Malays. Sama macam lazy and many others. Kalau tak, tentulah itu Lim Lip Eng tak buat statement bijaksana dia tu!

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          • 76. Helen Ang  |  June 6, 2015 at 1:18 am

            If they hate Malays, just be honest about it. All this “we’re brothers and sisters” hypocrisy is nauseating.

            What even more puke-inducing is their blatant loathing for mamak but pretending to be warm-hearted humanitarians over the fate of the Rohingya. These evanglistas leave one speechless.

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            • 77. islam1st  |  June 6, 2015 at 1:45 am

              ‘What even more puke-inducing’

              To me is Zan Azlee and some like him trying to bahasakan the Malays instead. Dia ingat dia sorang je ke mixed blood? Kawan saya kat asal Kampung Dodoi, Penang, siap ada Cina, campur Acheh, campur Benggali lagi. Tak bising pun?

              To me (my paternal tokwan ada darah Cina, my maternal tokwan is Sam Sam ok) and him (my penang kawan) people like him is a joke!

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  • 78. Abdullah  |  June 5, 2015 at 4:58 pm

    from the apocryphal GOSPEL OF THOMAS :

    Jesus said, “If those who lead you say to you, “See, the kingdom is in the sky,” then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, “It is in the sea,” then the fish will precede you.
    Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you.
    When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty [even for all your worldly riches].”

    The Muslim Sufis hold three important spiritual maxims: (One) that the foremost goal in religion is to strive to know the Lord God Creator and Sustainer of the Universe. (Two) that he who understands his own soul, will thereby come to recognize his Lord. (Three) The Kingdom of Heaven is the abode of those who know and love Allah, and who befriend and serve their fellow creatures.

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  • 79. Urb  |  June 5, 2015 at 6:15 pm

    If the status quo remain with Najib still with his stupid ways, I’d refrain from voting in the future GE.

    I will only vote for PAS if they leave DAP and Pakatan.

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  • 80. onsleuth  |  June 5, 2015 at 7:36 pm

    helen, you got to love this

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    • 81. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 7:51 pm

      I’m not on Facebook. Can’t login to view.

      Reply
  • 82. grandmarquis  |  June 5, 2015 at 7:42 pm

    Those Ulama fraction must be thankful to DAP, especially LGE and LKS. The constant attack, whether at political or personal level at Hadi has made many meluat with DAP and anything related to DAP, which include PasMa.

    Many may not like Hadi very much. But when you attack him like you don’t give a damn respect for him as president of Pas, what more as an Ulama adored by many of Pas followers, you make people sick of you. UMNO people also hates Hadi. They like to play the card of Amanat Haji Hadi. But then they turn blind and support Hadi against PasMa. It is like you have a father who may not be a good role model. But then, when someone which you regard as friend attack your father like he doesn’t give a damn that he is still your father, then mau tak mau, you will loath him.

    So the Ulama fraction in Pas should be thankful to LGE and LKS. They are the one who gave you your victory. And as I told again and again, LGE is one of the least political savvy politician. He is just lucky to be the son of LKS.

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    • 83. Helen Ang  |  June 5, 2015 at 7:56 pm

      re: “many meluat with DAP and anything related to DAP”

      I am one of the many who is meluat with DAP and many things related to their evangelistas. But the 90 percent Chinese find it “unnatural” that a Chinese can refuse to (blindly) support their representative party.

      Those Dapsters are kononnya colour blind and beyond race but they still think a Chinese voter MUST support the DAP.

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      • 84. jentayu  |  June 5, 2015 at 10:48 pm

        this is because najib kowtow with the chinese and evangelist. As i said before najib is a bad investor. Naturally you wont invest on something that does not give at least a decent return, let alone a loss. So why does the chinese community feel the need to change their collective vote?

        Pas on the other hand has managed to wipe all the dirt in the party. This sounds more trouble for umno as the lineup for pas is what majority malay especially pas supporters want.

        Ahjibgor is not so well loved on the ground compared to ayah cik. The only problem with pas is those liberal church lovers that has been dealt with. At the present methink pas has a better lineup than umno. The only thing is can the current lineup deal with the never ending onslaught of dapsters that is sure to double up after the recent muktamar.

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        • 85. Helen Ang  |  June 6, 2015 at 12:09 am

          re: “the never-ending onslaught of Dapsters”

          Any suggestions as to how to deal with them?

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  • 86. ahmadalikarim  |  June 5, 2015 at 9:18 pm

    Dear Aunty Helen,

    Please read this poem – BANGSAKU SEDANG ME-LAYU, written by Uncle Zul Noordin.

    Like PAS, UMNO must kick away the trojan horses and remember that it is the Malay votes that made them win the GE 13 and it is the Malay votes that can make them win again. I do hope that UMNO and PAS can find a way to work together to maintain the stability of our country and to uphold our Federal Constitution.

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