Tun’s mistake

August 3, 2015 at 9:22 pm 64 comments

He did not throw away the key after he had Lim Kit Siang locked up in 1987’s Ops Lalang.

Dr Mahathir repeated Tun Razak’s error of 1969 when Malaysia was under Emergency rule by the National Operations Council. Tun Razak, as the NOC chair, too forgot to throw away the key after detaining Kit Siang under ISA for instigating May 13.

If only Najib’s dad had thrown away the key, us younger generation Malaysians would have been spared Grandpapa Dapster’s sickening antics for the subsequent 46 years.

Instead Kit Siang, his son and their proteges have been left footloose to plague us over the last five decades (since May 1969). And Kit Siang did it again today.

His latest press statement is long-windedly titled ‘Although Najib has succeeded in frightening off Mahathir in not talking about 1MDB scandal, there are still enough patriotic and public-spirited Malaysians who still insist on their rights to demand proper accountability and not to be fobbed off by Najib’s delaying tactics’.

(1) I doubt that Tun was frightened off by Najib as Kit Siang is alleging. Tun is as close to untouchable as you can get. And he stands his ground.

(2) Even if Tun appears to be less vocal than before, the most straightforward explanation would be a tactical reason and not a matter of being scared away.

Quite simply, with Muhyiddin’s sudden sacking, there is just nobody else within the ranks of Umno that can now be offered up as a viable replacement for Najib. Hence given this development, Tun might have practically opted for a strategic retreat, and perhaps only temporarily.

(3) How to describe Kit Siang’s opportunist behaviour? It was just a few weeks ago that he was trying to make use of Tun by proposing the nonagenarian as head of an RCI to investigate 1MDB.

Kit Siang also suggested for Tun, alongside Tun Abdullah Badawi and Tun Musa Hitam, to form a triumvirate to run a caretaker government after forcing Najib to step down.

It wasn’t too long ago either that Kit Siang mooted a ‘Save Malaysia’ pact along with Tun’s participation that was to bring pressure to bear upon Najib to resign. ????????????????????????????????????

Yet today, just as quickly as Kit Siang had flipped over from being Tun’s lifelong nemesis to becoming Tun’s overnight cheerleader, he flipped back – without even breaking a stride – to mock that “Najib has succeeded in frightening off Mahathir in not talking about 1MDB scandal”.

It beats me how the Dapsters can hero worship the Grandpapa. The perception gap between the Chinese and the Malay in the field of politics is a mile wide.

This anomaly can be discerned in the polar opposite ways in which the Chinese and the Malays view Zaid Ibrahim. The Chinese see him as saviour and PM material. The Malays are not impressed. Given Zaid’s track record, the Malay appraisal is closer to the mark.

Someone like Kit Siang who is a hero to the Dapster is the man with egg on his face to the rest of us who are level-headed. There’s no doubt that the Dapsters are living on another planet.

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  • 1. RINA  |  August 3, 2015 at 10:41 pm

    Sebenarnya CikHelen Melayu ni sekarang bukan la bodoh macam depa buat kami pada zaman2 penjajah. Sekadar kerja peon, buat bendang dan bikin sampan2.

    1960s kalau sorang budak kampung dapat masuk University, satu kampung hantaq dia pi stesyen keretapi pasai terlalu happy. Tak tau kalo kampung Zaid pun macam in juga dulu? Dapat belajaq kat KL pun rasa teramat bertuah.

    Those were the days. Just take UiTM enrollment since early 70’s. Hundreds of thousands graduated since, lekeh2 pun Diploma yang cerdik2 sikit jadi la lawyer macam Zaid dan Dyana (?).

    Lapisan Atok Nenek kami sekarang bukan lagi asyik kacip buah pinang kunyah daun sireh lagi dah. Sekarang berhubung dengan cicit pun ramai guna wa, chat, atau fb etc etc, call overseas pun free dah sekarang.

    LKS buka mulut depa akan laju tekan butang to get confirmations dgn groups mereka yang terdiri dari ex this and ex yang pernah berkhidmat dalam dan luaq negara. Kalau yang berumur 5tahun keatas sekarang tak payah cerita la.

    Zaman kelentong Melayu dah nak pupus. Mungkin masih ada sedikit saki baki, golongan yang masih keliru pasai depa suka pi jalan sana sini tak payah bawa dompet.

    Hadi all the way gave his support to Najib in this issue, why? Pasai sesama Islam fitnah itu berat dosanya.

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    • 2. shamshul anuar  |  August 3, 2015 at 11:29 pm

      RINA,

      One defining character of malays( and translated by UMNO rule) is mercifulness.

      As such, we seldom see harsh treatment by any Malay led government to its opponents. When Anwar lied to the whole world about Sept 16, then PM, Abdullah did not treat him harshly.

      In other parts of the planet, Anwar’s intransigence( in declaring Sept 16) is enough for any paramount leader to justify public execution on him.

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      • 3. AC-DC  |  August 5, 2015 at 4:14 pm

        “In other parts of the planet, Anwar’s intransigence( in declaring Sept 16) is enough for any paramount leader to justify public execution on him.”

        Really? Please let us know which parts of the planet aside from Saudi Arabia, Iran, North Korea, and some other autocratic states, proscribes public execution for members of the Opposition attempting to bring down their rivals through a vote of no-confidence?

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    • 4. Mujahid  |  August 4, 2015 at 1:58 am

      Mungkin juga Hadi Awang ni ulama yang suka bagi sesama Islam benefit of the doubt. Misalnya kes Anwar. Dah terang-terang ada video, Hadi kata video tak boleh guna sebagai saksi. Malah, sebab tu dia tak nak tengok pun video tersebut.

      Untuk manusia keluaran DEB pulak, seperti dikatakan, dah boleh berfikir sendiri la ni. Jadi ianya bukan fitnah lagi, bila semua benda yang dok kalut sekarang semuanya datang dari 1MDB sendiri.

      Misalnya: cash dah tengok dengan mata kepala sendiri. Bukan Sarawak Report cakap. Arul Kanda cakap. Dan ada dalam rekod rasmi di laman web 1MDB sendiri.

      Misalnya: bukan cash, tapi units. Just units. Bukan Sarawak Report cakap. Keluar dari mulut Husni Hanadzlah sendiri. Malah ada video pun di mana dia tengah menyebut perkara tersebut.

      Misalnya: WSJ kata USD700 million masuk akaun peribadi Perdana Menteri. Tak perlu tunggu JPM saman WSJ. Bukan Sarawak Report cakap! Bekas AG dah sebut. Dan sekarang SPRM sendiri sahkan, memang ada duit tersebut dalam akaun peribadi Perdana Menteri. Cuma, ianya bukan duit dari 1MDB (WSJ tak pernah cakapun sumber wang tersebut ultimately dari mana), tapi sekadar “derma”. Jadi bubarkan sajalah SPRM, kan. Duit masuk dalam akaun peribadi mana-mana ahli politik dah tak jadi masalah lagi. Waima berbilion sekalipun.

      Seperti yang dikata. Melayu hari ini sudah cerdik dan mampu berfikir sendiri. Sayang sekali majoriti pemimpinnya tak develop in tandem. Dia ingat Melayu macam dulu juga lagi: bagi kain pelikat, ang paw BR1M, semua settle.

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    • 5. Keris  |  August 4, 2015 at 8:47 am

      Memfitnahkan seseorang umpama membunuh nya seperti firman Allah Ta’ Ala: “Dan berbuat fitnah lebih dahsyat daripada membunuh. Mereka tidak henti-hentinya memerangi kamu sampai mereka mengembalikan kamu dari agamamu (kepada percayaan mereka) … {Quran 2:217}

      Amanat Hadi Awang yang mengkafirkan sebahagian besar orang-orang Melayu yang berkaitan dengan UMNO adalah “fitnah al-kubra”. Ramai keluarga Muslim telah di pecah-belahkan oleh fatwa ulama Islamist itu, dan perpaduan orang Melayu pada zaman Dr. Mahathir hingga hari ini sudah di gantikan dengan pergaduhan politik berterusan dan perselisihan akidah tanpa rujuk dan dalil yang munasabah.

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      • 6. islam1st  |  August 4, 2015 at 11:59 am

        OK.

        So kita ‘takfiri’ kan balik hadi sampai masuk kubur? Atau kita hukum dia di dunia dengan hukuman yang kita rasa paling afdal, dan paling tidak islamis sekali?

        Dan apa bezanya pula kita, yang baik2 ni dengan dia dan kumpulannya yang jahat2 tu, bila kita saling menjatuhi ‘menghukum’ sesama kita, sama seperti apa yang sering buat, semasa kita sepatutnya bersatu-padu?

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        • 7. islam1st  |  August 5, 2015 at 9:29 pm

          Muzakharah Perpaduan Ummah – TPPA – Wakil MTEM

          http://www.ismaweb.net/2015/08/muzakharah-perpaduan-ummah-tppa-wakil-mtem/

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          • 8. Helen Ang  |  August 5, 2015 at 9:31 pm

            And what is the gist of his hour-long presentation?

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            • 9. islam1st  |  August 6, 2015 at 1:21 pm

              TPPA amat bahaya untuk Malaysia. Perbincangan TPPA super rahsia. NGO tempatan pun sudah tidak dijemput untuk penjelasan atak bberi input etc. Kita semua harus bersatu tolak TPPA secara TOTAL.

              Helen promote sikit http://janganjualnegara.com/#/

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        • 10. Keris  |  August 6, 2015 at 5:02 pm

          Tidak akan kita bertindak balas setimpal kepada Ustaz Hadi – mengkafirkan sesama muslim yang tidak berjenayah dengan nyata, samasekali bukan daripada ajaran Nabi Muhammad s.a.w. Hanyasanya Ustaz Hadi masih memegang kepada fatwa amanat takfirnya yang berpuluh tahun itu – dan inilah yang ahl sunnah wal jamaah pasti menolak sebagai penyelewengan dari akidah yang hakiki.

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  • 11. katasayang  |  August 4, 2015 at 3:32 am

    > detaining Kit Siang under ISA for instigating May 13.
    Is this substantiated? This blog entry is seditious.

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    • 12. Helen Ang  |  August 4, 2015 at 8:12 am

      He was ISA-ed one-and-a-half years immediately after May 13. Are you saying that Tun Razak was an oppressive ruler who kept an innocent man under detention?

      The fact that you accuse my blog entry of being seditious shows you’re cacing kepanasan. But you’re really cacing yang naik ke mata.

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      • 13. katasayang  |  August 5, 2015 at 12:19 am

        @Helen I did not say Tun Razak is oppressive.

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        • 14. Helen Ang  |  August 5, 2015 at 12:29 am

          Then how would you describe Tun Razak (as the NOC chief) and the fact of Kit Siang being ISA-ed during the Emergency rule by the NOC post-May 13, since you seem to disagree with the government’s decision to lock him up.

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          • 15. katasayang  |  August 5, 2015 at 2:14 am

            @Helen
            The fact that someone is detained under ISA doesn’t mean any given individual instigated the May 13 incident. Until appropriate authority opens up official record, I cannot see how you could back your statement that Lim Kit Siang instigated May 13. You, as a mere citizen, would not have had the access to any of the needed classified documents which could lead us to suggest why Lim Kit Siang has been detained for 18 months in 1969.

            I have no opinion on Tun Razak’s involvement in Lim Kit Siang’s being detained and released under Tun Razak’s rule. We have no ground to make the statements you have made about Tun Razak.

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            • 16. Helen Ang  |  August 5, 2015 at 8:51 am

              re: “I cannot see how you could back your statement that Lim Kit Siang instigated May 13.”

              Than why was Kit Siang detained one-and-a-half years if he was an innocent man.

              re: “You, as a mere citizen, would not have had the access to any of the needed classified documents which could lead us to suggest why Lim Kit Siang has been detained for 18 months in 1969.”

              I have read the NOC White Paper. It’s an public document. I would suggest that you do the same before pushing this any further.

              re: “I have no opinion on Tun Razak’s involvement in Lim Kit Siang’s being detained and released under Tun Razak’s rule. We have no ground to make the statements you have made about Tun Razak.”

              I did not make “statements” about Tun Razak. I had put it in the form of questions to you.

              Let me repeat my questions to you again. I said Kit Siang is guilty. You claim he is innocent. I said Tun Razak (as NOC head) had Kit Siang locked up for one-and-a-half years.

              Tell me:

              Do you believe that Tun Razak did the right and conscionable thing by locking Kit Siang up?

              Do you disagree or object to Tun Razak’s decision? If so, do you think that Tun Razak did a wrong/bad thing?

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      • 17. AC-DC  |  August 5, 2015 at 4:22 pm

        Was Lim Kit Siang ever charged in court and found guilty of instigating May 13?

        “Instead Kit Siang, his son and their proteges have been left footloose to plague us over the last five decades (since May 1969). And Kit Siang did it again today.
        His latest press statement is long-windedly titled ‘Although Najib has succeeded in frightening off Mahathir in not talking about 1MDB scandal, there are still enough patriotic and public-spirited Malaysians who still insist on their rights to demand proper accountability and not to be fobbed off by Najib’s delaying tactics’.”

        The whole issue regarding 1MDB and the RM2.6 billion in Najib Razak’s own personal accounts is the dead elephant that cannot be covered up with mere coconut palm leaves.

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        • 18. Helen Ang  |  August 5, 2015 at 4:28 pm

          The ISA did not require court charge(s).

          Split hairs how you like, you still can’t change the historical fact that Kit Siang was detained from 18 May 1969 to 1 Oct 1970, i.e. one year + 4-and-1/2 months.

          If he was innocent, he should have sued the government.

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        • 19. AC-DC  |  August 5, 2015 at 4:40 pm

          “The ISA did not require court charge(s).”

          The ISA is not proof of guilt as it permits detention without trial in a court of law. For instance, the government could detain you for years under the ISA for “attempting to create religious conflict” even though you are innocent.

          “Split hairs how you like, you still can’t change the historical fact that Kit Siang was detained from 18 May 1969 to 1 Oct 1970, i.e. one year + 4-and-1/2 months.
          If he was innocent, he should have sued the government.”

          If he was guilty, he would have been convicted in court and sentenced. Why was this not done?

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          • 20. Helen Ang  |  August 5, 2015 at 4:48 pm

            re: “The ISA is not proof of guilt as it permits detention without trial in a court of law.”

            The inescapable fact of the matter is that Kit Siang spent that period in detention because the authorities held the view that he was guilty of instigating May 13. With the benefit of hindsight and looking at the behaviour of the Dapster family mafia today, I believe that the government/NOC was correct in its decision.

            re: “For instance, the government could detain you for years under the ISA for “attempting to create religious conflict” even though you are innocent.”

            They can’t. The ISA has been abolished.

            re: “If he was guilty, he would have been convicted in court and sentenced. Why was this not done?”

            Because Malaysia was under Emergency law.

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          • 21. AC-DC  |  August 5, 2015 at 5:20 pm

            “The inescapable fact of the matter is that Kit Siang spent that period in detention because the authorities held the view that he was guilty of instigating May 13. With the benefit of hindsight and looking at the behaviour of the Dapster family mafia today, I believe that the government/NOC was correct in its decision.”

            The inescapable fact is he was never charged and convicted in court of instigating the May 13 riots.

            “They can’t. The ISA has been abolished.”

            Now abolished. But they could have done that.

            “Because Malaysia was under Emergency law.”

            Does Emergency Law prevent one from being charged in court afterwards? Especially for such as serious charge as instigating a deadly riot?

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            • 22. Helen Ang  |  August 5, 2015 at 5:28 pm

              re: “The inescapable fact is he was never charged and convicted in court of instigating the May 13 riots.”

              History records that he did.

              re: “Now abolished. But they could have done that.”

              Yeah, in AC-DC’s if … if … if world.

              re: “Does Emergency Law prevent one from being charged in court afterwards?”

              If Kit Siang was wrongly detained and had close to 1.5 years of his life unjustly taken away from him, he should have sued the government for wrongful imprisonment.

              re: “Especially for such as serious charge as instigating a deadly riot?”

              Especially for such as serious charge as instigating a deadly riot, Kit Siang should have sued the government and cleared his name instead of having the Malays – like Shamshul Anwar’s elders in Kampung Baru – continuing to believe that he is responsible.

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            • 23. AC-DC  |  August 5, 2015 at 5:59 pm

              “History records that he did.”

              Proof please. Bottom line is he never was charged in court for it.

              “re: “Now abolished. But they could have done that.”
              Yeah, in AC-DC’s if … if … if world.”

              If Helen Ang’s blog is cyberattacked by the government… that did not happen, or did it? ;)

              Of course, your first reaction was to accuse the opposition without proof. Until I pointed out that other pro-Barisan anti-Najib blogs were under attack at the same period.

              https://helenang.wordpress.com/2014/01/29/my-blog-under-attack
              https://helenang.wordpress.com/2014/01/31/my-blog-is-still-under-attack/

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              • 24. Helen Ang  |  August 5, 2015 at 6:03 pm

                Ha ha ha.

                Thank you for pointing out the possibility. So at least your presence here serves some purpose.

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                • 25. AC-DC  |  August 5, 2015 at 6:14 pm

                  “So at least your presence here serves some purpose.”

                  Rebutting your hysterical rubbish. Not that difficult to do.

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                  • 26. Helen Ang  |  August 5, 2015 at 6:17 pm

                    Naah. You’re here to Show & Tell how alternating current sometimes short circuits itself.

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                  • 27. AC-DC  |  August 5, 2015 at 6:20 pm

                    Deleted

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                    • 28. Helen Ang  |  August 5, 2015 at 6:29 pm

                      Tsk, tsk, tsk … I told you already. No low blows. It is very bad form considering how much aggravation I have put up with from you as it is.

                    • 29. AC-DC  |  August 5, 2015 at 6:42 pm

                      “Tsk, tsk, tsk … I told you already. No low blows. It is very bad form considering how much aggravation I have put up with from you as it is.”

                      Translation: “I use disparaging terms like ‘creepy Christian’, ‘bastard’, ‘hannah banana’, ‘porky’ etc. but get hysterical when other people makes a pun of my name”.

                    • 30. Helen Ang  |  August 5, 2015 at 6:49 pm

                      If you say so. But I don’t go to your Facebook to aggravate you. And if I went to Hannah’s Twitter, I’d have been banned before I can even spell Hannah Ba-

    • 31. shamshul anuar  |  August 4, 2015 at 9:46 am

      Katasayang,

      Yup. Read the White Paper.

      Also read “Before and after May 13” by none other than Tunku himself.

      But why Malaysians are not aware of this. It has to do with Malay attitude. “yang lepas tu sudah la. tak payah dikenang”.

      Unfortunately, among Chinese community, they were told that Tun Razak engineered May 13. Imagine their surprise when I told them on a Chinese procession into heart of malay settlement, KG Baru.

      I am amazed that they are unaware about the provocation to the malays.

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      • 32. islam1st  |  August 4, 2015 at 12:01 pm

        ‘Unfortunately, among Chinese community, they were told that Tun Razak engineered May 13.’

        Kua Kia Soong PNPU!

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      • 33. katasayang  |  August 5, 2015 at 12:33 am

        @shamsul I have not come across any suggestion amongst Chinese community that Tun Razak engineered May 13. I have read ‘Before and after May 13’ by Tunku. Please advise your source. I have also read John Slimming’s ‘Death of a democracy’ in reputable university library.

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        • 34. shamshul anuar  |  August 5, 2015 at 1:33 am

          Katasayang,

          I said DAP has been drumming into Chinese mind that Tun Razak engineered May 13 as a way to force Tunku into retirement.

          You need to be more observant. As I have quite a number of close friends from Chinese community, I have the privellege to know their views on May 13. that is what they told me. Only they knew nothing about Chinese procession right in heart of Kg Baru.

          This view is common among Chinese. Even one rude Deputy chief Minister of Penang challenged UMNO to engineer another May 13. So, what we can infer from that provocation?

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          • 35. katasayang  |  August 5, 2015 at 1:47 am

            > I said DAP has been drumming into Chinese mind that Tun Razak engineered May 13 as a way to force Tunku into retirement.

            Any reference to that statement that DAP has been drumming this into the Chinese mind? Blog entry, news clipping, youtube or voice recording?

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              • 37. katasayang  |  August 5, 2015 at 5:34 am

                @Helen: Read the 3 articles, and the reference articles. None of them mentioned DAP suggesting Tun Razak engineered May 13.

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                • 38. katasayang  |  August 5, 2015 at 5:41 am

                  https://jebatmustdie.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/13-may-1969-analysis-by-jmd.pdf
                  Only reference is from jebatmustdie himself in above link who came to the conclusion, without referencing quote from Dr Kua’s work.

                  Do read up Dr Kua’s work @Helen and find the exact quote yourself. I have read Dr Kua’s work, and find no similar claim nor conclusion.

                  In any case, I don’t believe Dr Kua is a DAP official, just like we would not regard what you have claimed in this blog as something UMNO would claim.

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                  • 39. Helen Ang  |  August 5, 2015 at 9:54 am

                    re: “Only reference is from jebatmustdie himself in above link who came to the conclusion”

                    I pointed you to JMD because he wrote a series of articles explaining why he came to the conclusion. Rather than I reinvent the wheel and start from scratch.

                    re: “without referencing quote from Dr Kua’s work. Do read up Dr Kua’s work @Helen and find the exact quote yourself. I have read Dr Kua’s work, and find no similar claim nor conclusion.”

                    Dr Kua’s book – Intro – he wrote: “It exposed the reality that many Malaysians do not believe the official version of this dark episode of Malaysian history which had pinned the blame on the opposition parties for inciting the post-1969 election riots”.

                    _________________________________________________________________________________________

                    To revert to Kit Siang’s ISA detention post-May 13, you (Kata Sayang “loving words”) dispute my (Helen) claim that he was locked up for inciting May 13.

                    Dr Kua – quote above – says that the official version blamed the oppo parties for inciting the riots. Kit Siang was one of the key leaders of the oppo. The NOC chose to put him under arrest. That means that the govt considered Kit Siang to be (one of the DAP leaders) most instrumental in instigating the riots.

                    re: “In any case, I don’t believe Dr Kua is a DAP official”

                    He was a DAP Member of Parliament. But his book does not speak for the DAP, granted. Nonetheless, it is used by many Chinese as their ‘Bible’ to refute the government’s account of May 13 as well as to claim that the event was engineered by people in Umno.

                    For the record, I do not believe that it was engineered by the ruling party. I’m more inclined to go with the ‘official’ version that the Malays ran amok because the behaviour of the opposition Chinese was too provocative and insulting.

                    re: “just like we would not regard what you have claimed in this blog as something UMNO would claim”

                    Now this hit is below the belt, ain’t it? You keep reaffirming my belief that it is the evangelistas who are the sneakiest operators.

                    *** *** ***

                    I’m flipping through Dr Kua’s May 13 book now and will get back to you on the quotes that you demanded.

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                  • 40. Helen Ang  |  August 5, 2015 at 10:36 am

                    Dr Kua’s book:

                    “The author maintains that the ‘May 13 incident’ was above all, a coup d’etat by then then emergent Malay state capitalist class to depose the Tunku who represented the outdated Malay aristocracy”. (page 3)

                    Helen’s remark: Dr Kua is introducing the conspiracy theory that May 13 was a coup with the objective of deposing Tunku rather than being a spontaneous outbreak of Sino-Malay violence. For the record, I believe tensions exploded because the Malays could not tahan the Chinese behaviour anymore.

                    Dr Kua’s book. He quotes veteran journalist Sukby Latif as writing:

                    “The May 13 Incident did not occur spontaneously. It was planned quickly and purposely.” (page 3)

                    Helen’s remark: So Dr Kua is telling his readers that it was engineered (“did not occur spontaneously” / “planned”)

                    Dr Kua writes on page 4:

                    “The eclipse of the Alliance’s predominance in the Malaysian political landscape at the 1969 general elections and the perceived threat to Umno’s supremacy provided the signal for the state capitalists to implement their plan to seize state power in the name of ‘Malay dominance’.”

                    Helen’s remark: Dr Kua is making it very clear that he believes May 13 was staged. That’s what some/an alarming number of Chinese believe – anecdotal evidence, see the comments feedback in JMD blog itself and elsewhere where Jebat’s articles were reproduced or discussed.

                    Dr Kua writes on pages 7-9:

                    “In 1987, as the Umno leaders orchestrated racial tension …”

                    “This trend and the persistent threats by Umno leaders whenever their monopoly of political and economic privileges is questioned have at least established one thing, and that is, the May 13 riots in 1969 were by no means a spontaneous outbreak if violence between ordinary Malaysians in the street.”

                    Helen’s remark: The ‘everything-blame-Umno’ syndrome is clearly demonstrated.

                    Dr Kua writes in summary on page 123:

                    “It is clear that the riots of May 13 1969 had led to the ascendance of the state capitalist class which controlled the National Operations Council. It was also evident that the old aristocratic class under the Tunku had been eclipsed by the new Malay elite under the leadership of Razak. [..] The racial bloodbath and the state of emergency under military rule was intended to serve as a deterrent to any challenge to Umno’s dominance of the post-1969 Malaysian political landscape.”

                    Helen’s remark: Dr Kua’s hypothesis has become an article of faith among ‘many’ (anecdotal, to the best of my knowledge) Chinese. They parrot his theory that May 13 was engineered in the same way that they swallowed the 40,000 Bangla phantom voters and blackout stories.

                    In the DAP lala land, the Chinese is never at fault. Not one iota of the blame is too be shouldered by the Chinese. For them, semua salah Umno, salah Melayu.

                    There is something very wrong with such a mindset among the Chinese DAP supporters who are drunk on J-Juice.

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                    • 41. shamshul anuar  |  August 5, 2015 at 5:13 pm

                      Helen,

                      I did write once on May 13. In early 1990s as a bachelor, i lived in Kg baru, KL

                      I mixed around with elders at that time. They told me what happened in Kg baru just after the election. KL was then part of Selangor. and the residence of MB Selangor is in kg Baru.

                      They told me they saw Kit Siang in Kg Baru. Kit Siang was provoking malays. He chided that malays saying unprintable words.

                      But there was no mobile phone back then. Camera was a luxury item in 1960s.

                      It is a fallacy to say that Perikatan was in danger of losing power in 1969. It still ruled all the states except Penang.

                      The truth is that Kit siang has a role in it and he conveniently blames UMNO(meaning malays) with regards to may 13. Tunku did not blame Tun Razak on May 13.

                      He realised that his time was over. So he handed over the premiership to Tun Razak. Tunku, Tun Razak, Harun Idris passed away years later. And they would not be able to defend themselves against DAP’s slander.

                      Whenever those worshipping DAP accuses UMNO of engineering May 13, I never fail to mention Chinese procession in heart of Kg Baru. that triggered May 13.

                      I notice they “tend” to be “speechless’ whenever I mentioned the procession.

                    • 42. Helen Ang  |  August 5, 2015 at 5:22 pm

                      re: “It still ruled all the states except Penang.”

                      Then opposition party PPP, led by the redoubtable Seenivasagam brothers, was the biggest single party winner in Perak in the May 1969 election.

                      In Selangor the seats were deadlocked at 14-14. Alliance had Umno’s 12, MCA (1), MIC (1) while the opposition had DAP (9), Gerakan (4), Independent (1).

                      PAS won Kelantan.

                • 43. Helen Ang  |  August 5, 2015 at 8:43 am

                  Even if Jebat did not mention DAP as suggesting Tun Razak engineered May 13 but nonetheless, he did pinpoint Dr Kua’s hypothesis as doing so. And Dr Kua’s book was being widely promoted by the Chinese thought leaders.

                  If you can avoid splitting hairs on semantics, you would be able to see where Shamshul is coming from, i.e. that ‘some’ Chinese believe Tun Razak and people around him engineered the event.

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    • 44. AC-DC  |  August 5, 2015 at 4:16 pm

      It is not seditious. But ridiculous, yes.

      And the ridiculousness would apply to the entire blog, not just this entry.

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      • 45. Helen Ang  |  August 5, 2015 at 4:18 pm

        re: “the ridiculousness would apply to the entire blog”

        Why do you keep coming here then? Birds of a feather flock together?

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  • 46. grkumar  |  August 4, 2015 at 6:49 am

    It is not Kit Siang alone. Notice how Ambiga has arisen from her winter of discontent hibernation to announce Bersih 4. [deleted]

    Yuri Bezmenov the late former KGB propaganda master defector referred to these people as “useful idiots”. They carry the causes of others and are eventually discarded, sent to the wall or forever banished after the event.

    Notice how none of the Bersih, Christians, DAP or PKR have outlined details of any policies once they achieve government as they believe they will soon.

    Its been over a decade since this loose raft of opposition groups whose causes swing from Anwar’s behind to cleaner elections, transparency and racial equality.

    If transparency is an issue why do they not open their own books for an independent examination as they demand of government.

    Ambiga in a now heavily censored interview on Malaysia Kini admitted to receiving foreign funding, Selangor government money (without it having been tabled in parliament) for “other projects”.

    These other projects include the eventual toppling of an elected government via street demonstrations and a carefully choreographed social media campaign of lies and half truths.

    Dr. Mahathir is misinformed that somehow he is only dealing with UMNO here. He appears to be pouring oil into a fire which will likely consume him in the end.

    Regardless of the bravado that he is willing to open his accounts for inspection, this is no logical or rational crowd he is dealing with here.

    Butross Butross Galil and former Nuclear Non Proliferation front man Mohammed El Baradei were funded by the Neo Cons to prop up the disparate groups that comprised the Tahrir Square protesters.

    Like the Ambigas they too were funded to spearhead the regime change in Egypt. Many have not been since since. Blame the army. How convenient. El Baradei had to flee for his life. Ghalil has been silenced. Baradei too has been told not to open his mouth. They have both served their purposes.

    Getting back to Dr. Mahathir he is their primary target. He always was and Wolfowitz and his mates would like to see him lynched.

    These are not interesting but dangerous times we live in.

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    • 47. Helen Ang  |  August 4, 2015 at 8:35 am

      Note:

      Wrt one sentence which I didn’t approve in GR Kumar’s comment above, it is about the consequences on the streets which he anticipates to arise from Bersih 4.0.

      I feel that it ought to have been worded more cautiously as in our present climate, the Enemies of the State are in hyperdrive to try and get the messengers (be it GR Kumar, me or other pro-establishment writers) lined up against the wall and shot.

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      • 48. Where's the Justice  |  August 4, 2015 at 9:33 am

        “the Enemies of the State are in hyperdrive to try and get the messengers (be it GR Kumar, me or other pro-establishment writers) lined up against the wall and shot.”

        With your constant attacks on Christianity etc, we could have reported you a long time ago on the grounds of seditious comments made to incite hate. Luckily for you, we are a loving and forgiving group, and respect the free will of others to say whatever they want to. Poor Eric Paulsen was not offered this luxury.

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        • 49. Helen Ang  |  August 4, 2015 at 10:03 am

          re: “With your constant attacks on Christianity”

          Show me where in my blog I’ve ever attacked God, Jesus, the Pope, the gospel, Christmas, Santa, the Easter Bunny?

          In what way does the born again DAP evangelistas represent Christianity? It’s like saying Al-Arqam (deviant sect founded by Ashaari Mohammad) represents Islam or the Ayah Pin commune represents Muslims.

          It is you evangelistas who are considered threats to peace and social order in other parts of the world, and in history (read about the action taken by the Tokugawa Shogunate).

          Your ‘churches’ in Malaysia are not even properly registered as houses of worship. They are RM2 companies. In the eyes of the law, you evangelistas are not a legitimate religious group. You’re a registered “business” group like the multi-level marketeers.

          Below: Kingdom Christian Fellowship “BERHAD”

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          re: “made to incite hate”

          You’re not gonna convince anyone here where restraint and decorum is observed in the Comment section. You wanna see how haters hate, then take a look at the kind of comments your lot make about Ridhuan Tee and Alifah Ting Abdullah or any other Chinese/Indian convert to Islam.

          re: “we could have reported you a long time ago”

          You did. Your report was treated as frivolous and malicious, like the report by the Red Beanies to try and get Lim Sian See’s Facebook suspended. He published the photo of a super-sized Subang Jaya rat. The DAP operatives reported him to Facebook for ‘graphic image’ (i.e. violent picture). You people and your kind of lowdown dirty tricks.

          re: “Luckily for you, we are a loving and forgiving group”

          Oh really? Love begets love, right? And what goes around comes around, so if you give love, you should be getting lots of love back in return, right?

          And you’re claiming that you lavish and exude all that love but what you get is Muslims freaking out at the sight of the cross. So are you quite, quite sure that you’re genuinely “loving and forgiving”? Luckily for you, the Malays banyak bersabar.

          re: “respect the free will of others to say whatever they want to”

          What you evangelistas say are laced with hate and dripping with contempt. The Quran has already forewarned in 2:120.

          re: “Poor Eric Paulsen was not offered this luxury.”

          He won’t stop.

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          • 50. The Dictator  |  August 4, 2015 at 10:20 am

            Re “With your constant attacks on Christianity”

            There you go again.

            Re “made to incite hate”

            There you go again. Accusing someone of the thing you yourself is culpable of.

            Re “we could have reported you a long time ago”

            This is hilarious. Your lot already did.

            Re “Luckily for you, we are a loving and forgiving group”

            Ah yes, your love. Tell you what, as Franklin Roosevelt said, and I quote, “and I welcome their hatred”, after all your love is hate right ? l o l !

            Re “respect the free will of others to say whatever they want to”

            Now this is something bordering on the absurd. When did your lot ever respect the free will of others ?

            Re “Poor Eric Paulsen was not offered this luxury.”

            There you have it.

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            • 51. The Dictator  |  August 4, 2015 at 10:22 am

              Sorry Helen, the above comment is meant for the person who goes by the name Where’s The Justice.

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          • 52. Where's the Justice  |  August 4, 2015 at 10:47 am

            ”In what way does the born again DAP evangelistas represent Christianity?”

            The fact that you are constantly using the term ”creepy Christians” clearly suggests that your consider the evangelicals to be legitimate Christians. Or perhaps you are referring to Christians in general?

            ”You did. Your report was treated as frivolous and malicious”

            I was referring to you. Have you ever been reported? But we all know that BN people are afforded some extra protection from the sneaky rat aka the IGP.

            ”What you evangelistas say are laced with hate and dripping with contempt. The Quran has already forewarned in 2:120.”

            What surprises me is the fact that your loyal followers are not insulted or annoyed by the fact that you are using their holy book to drive your agenda. It’s clear to most of us that you don’t think too highly of either Christianity or Islam.

            ”He won’t stop.”

            Get a mirror.

            The Dictator,

            All I got from your mad ramblings was blah, blah, blah…

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            • 53. Helen Ang  |  August 4, 2015 at 11:20 am

              re: “The fact that you are constantly using the term ”creepy Christians” […] Or perhaps you are referring to Christians in general?”

              I was clearly referring to specific individuals, i.e. the ones who stalk me at Annie’s, Rocky’s and a few other sopo blogs. Since I’m the victim of their 24/7 stalking, of course I find them creepy!

              And in context, such as the evangelistas who beat a woman to death in a McD restaurant in China. (Btw, they’ve been found guilty by the court of murder and executed/death penalty.)

              re: “I was referring to you. Have you ever been reported?”

              As far as I’ve been made aware – Yes – so don’t bother trying again. Your report will be considered frivolous and ridiculous too, like the Subang Jaya super rat alleged by Red Beanies to Facebook to be a “graphic image”.

              re: “But we all know that BN people are afforded some extra protection from the sneaky rat aka the IGP.”

              Go on, continue your Show & Tell and reveal to us your entrenched biases.

              re: “you are using their holy book to drive your agenda”

              2:120 is a reminder from Jakim in khutbah Jumaat. Are you like Clare Rewcastle and making accusations against Jakim?

              re: “It’s clear to most of us that you don’t think too highly of either Christianity or Islam.”

              What’s clear is your antagonistic views.

              re: “Get a mirror.”

              Fair enough. You think I won’t stop just like Eric Paulsen won’t stop. Go and look up the perpatah about the durian and mentimun mengolek.

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            • 54. The Dictator  |  August 4, 2015 at 11:26 am

              Re All I got from your mad ramblings was blah, blah, blah…

              l o l !

              You don’t have to say it here. I know. I know. You’re angry. I understand.

              You love evangelists don’t you ? You go ballistic when someone picks on them. You one of them ?

              Your hatred of anything and everything that’s contradictory of your worldview is so brazen that you didn’t even bother to hide them anymore.

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              • 55. alwieabdullah  |  August 4, 2015 at 12:32 pm

                The Dictator…. mamat tu ibarat dicubit paha kanan, dia lah paha kiri yang terasa….!

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              • 56. Where's the Justice  |  August 4, 2015 at 12:53 pm

                ”You don’t have to say it here. I know. I know. You’re angry. I understand. ”

                No shit Sherlock. Anyone who is interested in even a sliver of justice will not be happy living under the current regime, unless you are a privileged Malay of course and stand to benefit from the numerous schemes designed to lift you up at the expense of someone else.

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            • 57. AC-DC  |  August 5, 2015 at 4:34 pm

              That is typical Helen Ang strategy. She will berbelit-belit, twist and turn, and shift goalposts to worm her way out of a hole she dug herself out of.

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              • 58. Helen Ang  |  August 5, 2015 at 4:38 pm

                It is the evangelistas who berbelit-belit, twist and turn, and shift goalposts to worm their way out of a hole they dug themselves into.

                Who created the “Bak Kut Teh is not pork” classic excuse?

                It is the evangelistas who contributed largely to the almost complete wipe-out of the Erdogans at the recent PAS election. The purge was one tangible outcome of how people react to the evangelistas and their duplicity.

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                • 59. islam1st  |  August 5, 2015 at 9:20 pm

                  ‘It is the evangelistas who contributed largely to the almost complete wipe-out of the Erdogans at the recent PAS election.’

                  Yet they blame the Melayus again. How convenient!

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      • 60. The Dictator  |  August 4, 2015 at 10:13 am

        What you said is nothing new. These people, they want mob rule. But what they cannot understand, or rather, refuse to understand, is that they will be the first to face the consequences. Lining up people against the wall and be shot ? They will be the first to face the firing squad. They really think the men in uniform will just stand by idly and let them have a great time. These people, that’s what holy juicy juice can do to your faculty.

        There is nothing much for you do to anyway with regards to these people. It has really got to them, to their heads, they think they are delivering salvation to the nation.

        On Egypt, people had better realize that the military, or to be more precise, the army is now back in power and the repression is much worse than it was before, all thanks to those suckers buying into the promises of the conspirators.

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    • 61. Orang Perlis  |  August 4, 2015 at 10:03 am

      So in other words, grkumar, what other choices do we, the non pro opposition/pro establishment folks have ? Swallow the bitter pill? Accept the fact and move on?

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      • 62. Mujahid  |  August 4, 2015 at 10:56 am

        I think we’re supposed to grin and bear it while raising our hands to the Heavens and saying alhamdulillah, while thieves come into our homes in the brazen daylight and steal the roofs over our heads.

        I agree, the Opposition is hopeless and the majority of them are not to be trusted. Yet it in no way gives the present Government free license to embark on shenanigans like shifting billions (and a couple of millions) into personal accounts.

        For the good of the many, is the pill we are supposed to swallow. This, when even the party’s left hand (and both legs, and the rest of the body) didn’t have a clue what the right hand was doing until some foreign media came in and lifted the tudung saji for all to see.

        Dah kantoi baru nak cari excuse. And for something that was apparently so innocent, it took them the better of a month to come up with a good-sounding “reason”. Feh.

        I cannot, in all conscience, support the current leadership of this country. For the exact same reasons I have been so vocal against the Opposition.

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  • 63. AYAH  |  August 4, 2015 at 7:42 am

    Tang kes Kit Siang ni, baru “2 strikes”. Kita tunggu tengok apa jadi lepas “3 strikes”. Bila yang tu berlaku tengok Zahid Hamidi ada benda tu ka tak.

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  • 64. sirimuda  |  August 4, 2015 at 9:34 am

    its too subtle as a subject but to the many the Malaysian no matter who they are were mysterious on a subject and make it looks ruthless and worn out or no mention of it.
    Like the imposition of rules and laws its to protect life or avoid humiliation what does got to do with scandalize of the pemimpin not allowing public speaking to his subject kalau mahu diialihkan sebagai mengancam kedudukan sesaorang itu datang dari sikap sub judis dan baginya pemimpin yang kourp.

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