Please keep an eye out on how the Christians, particularly evangelistas, are moving the Bersih 4.0 street protest.
Columnist KJ John – below – urges Malaysiakini readers that Aug 29-30 is the “time to walk”.
Yup, it’s the Starbucks latte sippers and assorted CREEPY crawlies who are going to walk this time around.
Note to the navel-gazing keyboard warriors tapping away in their Bangsar bubble comfort zone: Do remember that cultivating this culture of street demos may open the door to Malaysia’s own Arab Spring, yah. Be careful what you wish for.
And below is KJ John with the National Evangelical Christian Fellowship (NECF)’s Rev. Wong Kim Kong and the DAP evangelistas.
KJ John is an evangelical activist.
Four days ago (Aug 9), he promoted Bersih 4.0 in his column in The Ant Daily that “street protests have merits too”.
Like I’ve been saying, these evangelistas all but control the voices of public opinion in the English-language media.
Extremely prejudiced and angry people taking to the streets
A few days before that (Aug 5), Rama was published in TMI saying Bersih 4.0 is “a rally of the people … [where] we can vote with our feet for integrity and institutional reform in our nation”.
Separately, writing in support for the Christian-friendly New Hopers, Rama said, “The goal of state-sponsored Islam and PAS-sponsored Islam in Malaysia appears more aligned to repression of the population a la Saudi Arabia…”.
He also revealed that “most” – in his circle of friends, obviously – consider PAS to be “Islamist” and Umno “racist” – see ‘My hopes for Gerakan Harapan Baru‘ (TMI, 30 July 2015).
BELOW: Rama standing behind Bersih chairman Maria Chin Abdullah and Toh Kin Woon
And here are Christians/Chinese publicly plugging Bersih
- ‘Bersih 4, Martin Luther King, Jr and justice matters‘ by Christopher Ling (Malaysiakini, 13 Aug 2015)
. - ‘Bersih 4 is about saving our country from the rot‘ by C.R. Lee (The Ant Daily, 7 Aug 2015)
. - ‘Fight for a free society‘ by Darren Nah (TMI, 6 Aug 2015)
And of course there are Hannah & the New Hopers who have promised to help mobilize a turnout for Bersih 4.0 in the absence of traditional organizers PAS.
Mereka ada di merata-rata … sungguh merimaskan
For a population of “only 9 percent”, the presence of the Christians sure is being felt everywhere.
It’s not true that a minority can’t dominate a majority, you know. If the rich and powerful minority is super sneaky of top of being uber aggressive, then of course they can.
BELOW: Bersih activists (from left) Lawyer-for-Liberty Michelle Yesudas, loyar burok S. Ambiga, “barely a lawyer” Adrian Lim Chee En, Mohd Faddhli Abdul Jaid and Maria.
Christian supremacists conquer vast lands
Portugal, a small Christian country, once conquered faraway Malacca with only a few ships.
The Netherlands, a small Christian country, colonized Indonesia, a sprawling archipelago.
Britain, a Christian country not all that ‘Great’ in size (the whole UK can fit into North America’s Great Lakes), ruled over the Indian sub-continent and had an empire spanning the globe.
Christian country Spain commanded an overseas empire too.
Christian country Germany had colonial possessions in Ghana, Mauritania and Benin.
Christian country Italy colonized Libya, a country almost six times bigger than itself.
Christian country France ruled over North Africa and still has territories in the Caribbean – Haiti, Trinidad and Tobago, among other islands in the West Indies, were former French colonies. France also conquered north and west Africa.
Compare the humongous size of the areas previously under French domination with the actual size of France.
Even the very small Christian country Belgium maintained colonies in Africa – Congo, Rwanda and Burundi. See map above.
Christian Europeans subdued China by making the Chinese addicted to opium. (The DAP evangelistas have subdued the Jerusubang Chinese by making them addicted to J-Juice.)
The weakened and debilitated China was famously said to have been “carved up like a melon” by the Christian powers. (No wonder China is today still so freaked out by her own emerging evangelistas.)
The moral of our history lesson is that “size does not matter” where bullying is concerned. The Christian supremacists are very aggressive conquistadors who have been bullying the natives everywhere in the world for the last half a millennia.
I hope the Malays realise by now that the onset of anarchy will lead to the unravelling of their special “privileges”.
On our home front, Education Minister Mahdzir Khalid has been getting flak daily from Malaysian Christians for his statement four days ago (Aug 9) that foreign Christians are pushing an agenda to destabilize Malaysia in the vein of how Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Tunisia, Algeria, Egypt and other Muslim countries are presently thrown into turmoil.
The Malaysian Church is demanding an apology from Mahdzir while some Christians have asked for him to be sacked from the cabinet. I’m waiting for Perkasa to come out in support of their new-found evangelical sweethearts on this issue. Cat got your tongue, Ibrahim Ali?
Helen Ang 
“For a population of “only 9 percent”, the presence of the Christians sure is being felt everywhere.”
Not true the really bising Christians in Malaysia are the latte sipping urbanite Chinese Christians. The Bumiputera Christians of Sabah and Sarawak are not interested in the Bersih BS.
It is the population of less than 9%.
They are not real christian. They are new born christian, liberal support LBG. and western civilisation. Probably funded by NED or something similar.
As for the new education minister, *** according to TDM. So he is fundamentally flawed.
Hi allabih,
I asterisked your revelation. Readers will have to go elsewhere to find out what TDM reportedly said :)
KJ John is a generational Christian.
Rama Ramanathan would be conventionally classed as a Born Again – his evangelical faith is something he wrote about in one of his earlier columns.
Postscript:
KJ John – Syrian Mar Thoma church, Malayalee (not ‘Indian’), elitist wor.
‘Rama Ramanathan’
Huh dia ni ingat Sri Wijaya tu sejarah kegemilangan empayar ‘India’.
Rasis tak bertempat. Sejarah Bangsa Melayu pun nak songlap! Dia ni kira version India bagi Shuzeng la.
Thanks for info
Expect the puteri lilin, umbrella carrying, latte sipping protester this time. I don’t think the PAS supporters to turn up.
Here is one such protester. Throwback to Bersih Part 3.
The AhSoh of Bersih 3.0 got her EDM fans. Enjoy this cool EDM remix of her.
#throwbackBersih
The Chritianizing Europeans can now get a taste of what they did to the rest of the world. There is a reverse migration from Africa to Europe. Soon enough, Europe will be forced to absorb a sizeabale African/Arab population that will be giving them problems.
Sheer numbers can overcome the White Man’s prejudices. Whilst once they dictated to the colonized, they will probably be colonized by the new migrants. Christians beware.
And the evangelizing Christians in Malaysia who have been goading the Muslims here should also beware. People in the cities may not be responding to their provocations but outside of the city boundaries there are already distant murmurings.
I lived through 13 May 1969 in Sentul. I don’t want to go through that again. Those who stoke the fires will be far away from any trouble but the ones who will suffer are those innocent ones. I remember the killings and the burning so close to Sentul. Can you remember where Lim Kit Siang and Goh Hock Guan were when the troubles started?
So let us stop all this nonsense once and for all.
re: “Those who stoke the fires will be far away from any trouble”
Yes.
re: “but the ones who will suffer are those innocent ones”
Yes.
Dajjal. I pray that karma will repay them in cash.
And the Melayu yang bodoh will support, nay, join them come what may. The likes of “Pus” Ma and the great “dap” hope…You can see their faces soon.
Raja Petra wrote in his Malaysia Today column today:
@ http://www.malaysia-today.net/yes-let-us-change-the-government/
Depa ni kecik2 I wonder attended which missionary schools? Wonder if they attended any formal religious schools or just being preached by people like Hannah and Hubby? Sigh
Kalau my Reverend Mother dulu and our teachers (Nuns from Europe semuanya) these fellas sure kena stand at a corner sampai makayah datang jemput balik. Depa cukup pantang kalau tingkah laku kurang ajar, melampau, perangai riak dan tak sopan. Mana kasi mulut keluar kata2 kesat even among us classmates.
Those lovely Catholic nuns bonded not only students of all races and religion from our wonderful convent but pulled our parents together too. They really left such great impressions.
Haiyaaa..Heran betoi tengok whats happening today, depa jenis Christianity yang mai dari ceghoq mana ni?
re: “depa jenis Christianity yang mai dari ceghoq mana ni?”
From the Little Red Dot, City Harvest.
Religion hijacked,
Ransom? Peace and Harmony AND our beloved Nation
And their followers are growing. And our leaders maintained their elegant silence.
Too bad, the ISA is deep down in the Mindanao Trench.
Malays have to compel Umno to urgently shed its Tidak Apa attitude. Umno must go on a war footing now, like how Najib has declared against the RBA but not just confining the battle to fighting against Dapsters alone. The evangelistas are way more insidious.
The most honourable struggle that Mr. Najib should engage in today for the sake of Malaysia is to free his own conscience from the shackles of his wanton desires.
What happened to “love is in the air”? Where did all that love go?
I don’t read the papers, I just breeze through the headlines. I also breeze through the online papers. The online media are worse than the published ones. If we had taken MI, MKini and the rest seriously, we would have experienced May 13th many times over since these media started. Instead of calming the masses, the publications like The Star, MM joined in to feed the anxiety, the phobias, the uneasiness to create a greater sense of disquiet among their readers.
There doesn’t seem to be any calming influence, not from the government or the opposition. We have people like Zeti saying the economy is controllable and her voice is drowned by the new “experts” who tell you every chance they get that Malaysia is the next Greece.
And now Bersih 4. This rally or for that matter any rally held in the city, we the kampung folks are disconnected from it. We look at it as the city folks problem. The talk around the warung would be “Apalah depa ni, tak ada kerja lain ke?”
Your Bersih and whatever rally is not for the general populace. We did not ask you to go to streets for us. We do not want you to create havoc in our name. You are not happy with the PM, that is your problem. We are not happy with the PM, we wait for the elections. We do not want Najib, we talk to the Umno people to do something, because we know that is the most peaceful way to go about it.
So do not go to Bersih and say that you are fighting for the masses. Be honest and say you really want to topple Umno.
re: “What happened to ‘love is in the air’?”
There never was any in the first place. Puak evangelista sekadar menjaja air liur / menanam tebu di tepi bibir.
re: “Where did all that love go?”
If they had really given love, they’d also have gotten love back. Instead what they have received in return is a fear of the cross – which is an instinctual recompense for the poisoned fruit of the evangelistas.
re: “Instead of calming the masses, the publications like The Star, MM joined in to feed the anxiety”
The J-Star is the Nest of Evangelistas. MM is full of Christians who mass migrated from TMI.
Look at what MM did to Isma.
Exhibit A: The Malay Mail headline
Exhibit B: What Isma actually said
re: “We have people like Zeti saying the economy is controllable and her voice is drowned by the new ‘experts’ who tell you every chance they get that Malaysia is the next Greece.”
Look at their hysterical response to what Zeti did NOT say @ http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/308485
re: “The talk around the warung would be ‘Apalah depa ni, tak ada kerja lain ke’?”
They’re consumed by the idee fixe that BN is evil and wicked, and Najib is the Dark Lord (the title previously bestowed by them on Tun but his past sins have since been washed clean/Bersih by their holy water).
re: “We do not want you to create havoc in our name.”
They claim they’re doing it in the name of Justice, Transparency and Accountability.
re: “You are not happy with the PM, that is your problem. We are not happy with the PM, we wait for the elections.”
Sabar itu separuh daripada iman. Solat mereka tu berkiblatkan City Harvest – yang dikehendaki ialah instant gratification.
re: “We do not want Najib, we talk to the Umno people to do something, because we know that is the most peaceful way to go about it.”
Ya lor. Why Malaysia’s most Peaceful & Harmonious group of people don’t wanna adopt the ways of peace?
re: “Be honest and say you really want to topple Umno.”
Bak Kut Teh is not pork.
re: We are not happy with the PM, we wait for the elections.
Pointless. Due to gerrymandering and tainted electoral role, even if the people voted 70% against BN, the latter will still command 50% + 1 seats in the Parliament.
‘Due to gerrymandering and tainted electoral role’
Bila PR menang besar takdak masalah pulak no. Yang PR kalah saja yang hampa bising gilababi. Nampak sangat.
Saw this article on Ismaweb. Really F-U_N-N-Y
http://www.ismaweb.net/2015/07/elok-masuk-gereja-pakai-seluar-dalam-sahaja-ridhuan-tee/
“BANGI, Rabu – Pendakwah dan juga pensyarah, Prof Dr Mohd Ridhuan Tee Abdullah hari ini mencabar puak ultra kiasu dan pihak yang tidak bersetuju dengan etika pemakaian, untuk masuk ke gereja dengan hanya berseluar dalam.
Menyifatkan puak yang membantah kod etika itu sebagai tidak bertamadun, beliau berkata tidak ada agama yang membenarkan penganut mereka berpakaian mencolok mata.
“Puak-puak jenis ini manusia tak bertamadun. Tidak ada agama yang membenarkan pakaian mencolok mata.
“Elok juga mereka-mereka ini masuk ke gereja atau tokong dengan berseluar dalam sahaja selepas ini jika tidak percaya kepada etika pakaian,” katanya ketika dihubungi ISMAweb.”\
“Beliau diminta mengulas tindakan pemimpin parti cauvinis DAP, Ng Sze Han, yang sengaja menyindir kod etika pemakaian ketika berurusan di pejabat kerajaan.
Ahli Dewan Undangan Negeri (ADUN) Kinrara itu kelmarin mengeluarkan satu notis di facebooknya, membenarkan orang yang mahu berurusan di Pusat Khidmat Kinrara memakai apa saja jenis pakaian, kecuali berbogel.”
‘Christian supremacists conquer vast lands’
No wonder their country so kaya-raya one! Jajah dan Songlap kekayaan orang lain!
Nak belajar apa from the West again?
“No wonder their country so kaya-raya one! Jajah dan Songlap kekayaan orang lain!”
Nah, it’s more likely because the vast majority of their population is literate and educated, they have functional systems and proper rule of law. People like Najib won’t be able to get away with a donation explanation in a western country, he would be forced to resign. See Bronwyn Bishop.
Nice aah your tempurung!
The topics here bore me now. Same old Helen hissy fits and her unresolved teenage like angst towards Hannah. If you scan back to what she was posting six months ago and compare it to today’s postings, they are pretty much the same. It’s all regurgitated articles with zero substance. I just come on for the odd troll posting every now and again.
Ah, our Jerusubang troll returns.
re: “The topics here bore me now.”
You bored us from ‘Hello’ (with apology to the Jerry McGuire line). Only the commenters here, who are mostly Malay, have been too polite to tell you off.
re: “Same old Helen hissy fits and her unresolved teenage like angst towards Hannah.”
It is Hannah Yeoh who is behaving like a teenager. She’s jealous of the Kardashian girls – lolz
And why would I have “teenage-like angst towards Hannah” when Madame Speaker is so lacking in maturity? She has shown no intellectual growth. The only thing about her that’s grown is her chin (now double going on triple) and her expanded waistline (latest photo here).
re: “If you scan back to what she was posting six months ago and compare it to today’s postings, they are pretty much the same.”
If you scan back to what @hannahyeoh was tweeting six years ago and compare it to today’s tweets, they are pretty much the same. Her 24/7 craving for this food and that food memang tak ubah-ubah – see her Twitter timeline below.
No wonder she has a weight problem.
re: “It’s all regurgitated articles with zero substance.”
Yucks, I don’t want to know how Hannah Yeoh chews and drools all that she keeps stuffing in her face. But wrt her mind and her expressions, yup, they definitely lack substance. She’s too food-obsessed to think about much else.
re: “I just come on for the odd troll posting every now and again.”
We already know you’re a troll. Your standard is very clear to us all. You were in @hannahyeoh’s timeline and you called me a “nutjob” over there.
“You were in @hannahyeoh’s timeline and you called me a “nutjob” over there.”
Another unsubstantiated claim just like “the majority of young Malaysian Chinese are Christian” line you spouted a few months ago. But I guess you appeal to your viewers who aren’t exactly known for their objectivity, so good luck to you.
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Deny, deny, deny … good luck to you ‘cos you all can keep up for only so long the ‘Bak Kut Teh is Pork’ (general idiom, so don’t bother to complain that you’re not Chinese – I believe you when you say you’re not Chinese) sneakiness before people wise up to the pretense.
Btw, your tweet below. Don’t bother to delete it.
I guess you did it again Helen. Itu orang AKAN HILANG lagi sekali. Abracadabra. Macam biskut Chipsmore. Now you see, now you don’t!
‘If you scan back to what she was posting six months ago’
Scan back 6 months konon. Wey thambi, aku dah ada sini bertahun la!
“Scan back 6 months konon. Wey thambi, aku dah ada sini bertahun la!”
So you are a sucker for bs, just as I thought.
And what are you doing here again? Mabok is it?
re: People like Najib won’t be able to get away with a donation explanation in a western country, he would be forced to resign.
Agree with you. Western countries have a clear distinction between party/private and public matters. One Umno leader said that 2.6 bil donation was given to Najib due to his effort in fighting ISIS. Whose resources are being used to fight ISIS? The police and army (read as government resources) or UMNO’s members (read as private resources). Shouldn’t the 2.6 bil donation be given to Malaysian government instead?
Helen, you asked me a point blank question the other day about Rev. Wong Kim Kong.
Let me give you a straight answer – Yes, I can and will vouch for him.
Please note also that the photo that you keep using to show Rev. Wong Kim Kong with LGE & KJ John is actually an old photo circa late 2007 or early 2008 before GE12. That was a dialogue which NECF organised with the Opposition, the DAP. But please note that a month earlier, the NECF also organised a similar dialogue with the MCA as well. Kim Kong was then the NECF Sec-Gen and obviously he has to be in the photo. But in May 2008, he was replaced and
re-designated Executive Advisor with immediate effect after serving 11 years as secretary-general, while former NECF Honorary Secretary Sam Ang takes over as Acting Secretary-General.
For the record, during Kim Kong’s tenure as Sec-Gen, the NECF actually maintained good relationships with the Government and both the Prime Ministers Dr. M and Pak Lah. Dr M opened the World Evangelical Fellowship Conference in Malaysia in 2001 and that relationship was not confrontational. many issues were resolved through consultation.
Rev. Eu Hong Seng then step up as Chairman in May 2008 and the entire direction and approach of the NECF changed and is evident today. Suffice to say that the new NECF did not see eye-to-eye with Rev. Wong Kim Kong on many issues and Kim Kong quit as Executive Advisor shortly thereafter.
When CPHM was mooted, the approach was to emphasise on peace and harmony and adopting a non-confrontational approach to resolving issues. This is very much in line with the thinking and mindset of Kim Kong and Lee Min Choon.Not all Christians have the same mindset that is being dictated by some very dominant pastors – there are still many rational, peace loving and non-confrontational christians in Malaysia.
re: “Yes, I can and will vouch for him”
Okay Jason, thanks for stepping up to the plate.
re: “is actually an old photo circa late 2007 or early 2008”
Yes, obviously. Hannah Yeoh was slim in that photo.
re: “Not all Christians have the same mindset that is being dictated by some very dominant pastors”
For all our sakes, I hope so.
re: “there are still many rational, peace loving and non-confrontational Christians in Malaysia”
Among the Chinese Christians in the peninsula, what’s the percentage? 10 %?
We isolate the radicals, educate the idealists and cultivate the realists – it will take some time but there is progress. Let’s not put numbers here as you are being watched……
re: “Let’s not put numbers here as you are being watched……”
I’m not only being watched by ‘them’, I’m being stalked.
Not only here, and not only at Rocky’s, Annie’s and other blogs (but the alpha bloggers have started to block the evangelista smear campaigners) but they track where my writing is being picked up.
They’re very well organized, ruthless and vicious. I’m predicting your friend LMC will soon be a target, if he is not already.