The Kadazan connection

August 27, 2015 at 3:29 pm 10 comments

Their costume and dance are uncannily similar to the natives of Sabah and Sarawak’s.

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  • 1. grkumar  |  August 27, 2015 at 3:33 pm

    Well if you look up the costumes and dances and the relationship to the hornbill of the natives of parts of Assam, Manipur and Tripura in North East India you will find an eerie similarity to those of the natives of Sarawak and Sabah and now it seems Taiwan as well.

    Question is this. Is the origins of man (and woman) to be found in Sabah and Sarawak.

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  • 2. Muhammad Muhammad  |  August 27, 2015 at 5:19 pm

    Tribal costumes tend to look the same because they draw a closer inspiration from nature. Whether they are similar or not does not proof that certain cultures are descendent from another.

    Parallel development is possible. Separate tribes could have come up with similar looking designs independently due to the similar source of inspiration: nature.

    Same goes for the Malaysia Vs Indonesia culture wars. Many things seem quite basic that it is possible that each culture developed it on its own. The kebab looks similar to sate. And basically many cultures had skewered barbequed meat. But it doesn’t mean one is descended from the earlier or some a superior culture.

    Perhaps, it was an obvious development after ancient people kept roasting slabs of meat with a skewer through it over a fire that they decided to experiment with a smaller cut of meat. Anything is possible.

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    • 3. Helen Ang  |  August 27, 2015 at 5:45 pm

      There are two theories about early migration, i.e. (1) from Nusantara to Formosa, or (2) from Formosa to Nusantara.

      The native costumes in the video are the Taiwan (formerly called Formosa) aboriginal hill tribe’s.

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      • 4. islam1st  |  August 29, 2015 at 12:55 pm

        ‘There are two theories about early migration, i.e. (1) from Nusantara to Formosa, or (2) from Formosa to Nusantara.’

        Helen, ada dua waves. (1) dan (2). Yang latest tu Melayu kata ‘Sirih Pulang Ke Gagang’.

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  • 5. PJ_W  |  August 28, 2015 at 4:30 am

    I cannot recall the reference but recent DNA analyses of both populace pointed to a possible migration from Nusantara to Formosa, therefore debunking previous theories about migration from the north to the south. For what it’s worth, that is.

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    • 6. grkumar  |  August 28, 2015 at 11:21 am

      That north south dichotomy is ages old. The Aryan invasion theory. Other say the Aryan originated from north central India and Afghanistan. But the fact remains that the Om putih’s ideas of history and the origins of mankind are severely flawed.

      If one accepts what the Om putih has to say about everything we know, the Chinese did not have maths or physics. The Indians did though it is called Arabic numerals. Their theorems were Greek and as for the Chinese, well they were simply just mongol hordes and largely uncivilized. (I suppose that also means they built the wall though trial and error rather than using plan and elevation which they did not refer to as plan and elevation so they missed out on being civilized).

      Thank god for youtube and free documentaries (although even there one has to remove that pinch or tonne of salt depending on whose documentary it is).

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      • 7. PJ_W  |  August 28, 2015 at 7:16 pm

        I was referring to mitochondrial DNA analysis of the migration in the Upper Paleolithic stone age, circa 150000 to 50000 years ago out of Africa, before agriculture. Some studies (of haplogroup O2a1) show a migration back West, circa 5000 years ago, from China as far West as India. Any development of math or physics or technology is most probably simultaneous, with varying degrees of advancement.

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  • 8. Kamal  |  August 28, 2015 at 11:39 pm

    They are all members of the Austronesian language family. Language and genetics aren’t necessarily the same but there is usually much overlap.

    1. I observe that whenever possible, Austronesians will try to emerge as the superior culture – become the ruling class, impose their language etc. They were successful in doing this in Madagascar (defeating native African people) and the Pacific Islands (defeating native Melanesians – native islanders).

    2. When unsuccessful, they blend in as is happening in Taiwan, South Africa, Sri Lanka. They adopt the superior culture and marry into them. I believe it is happening in Singapore too – successful Malay people marry out of the Malay community and speak a non-Malay language at home. In South Africa, Cape Malays speak Afrikaans – usually only spoken by white South Africans!

    The question is, is the current climate in Malaysia more conducive for 1. or 2. ?

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    • 9. islam1st  |  August 29, 2015 at 12:38 pm

      ‘I observe that whenever possible, Austronesians’

      Malay la brader.

      http://www.google.com.my/imgres?imgurl=http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gdwIRuRulm8/UCXfcFjYvaI/AAAAAAAAA-U/BMY8IbvjZ1o/s1600/Austronesia.jpg&imgrefurl=http://kapcai2bmw.blogspot.com/2012/08/bahasa-bahasa-austronesia-asal-usul.html&h=393&w=898&tbnid=8geod3mWqyOJxM:&docid=20ouUKKwjZPbOM&ei=UDXhVfLBDJKHuAT3koKIBQ&tbm=isch&ved=0CCkQMygOMA5qFQoTCPKp_L26zccCFZIDjgodd4kAUQ

      ‘will try to emerge as the superior culture – become the ruling class, impose their language etc.’

      We surely are. Ever read sejarah or not you?

      ‘Among the major ethnolinguistic groups in the world, the nusantarian family (also called “Malayo-Polynesian” or “Austronesian” by western authors) undeniably occupied the largest geographical territory prior the modern era. From east to west, this vast territory covered the area from Rapa-nui (Easter Island) to Madagascar, approximately 60% the circumference of the earth.

      From north to south, it included the island of Taiwan (Pekan, for the Nusantarian natives), the archipelago of Hawaii (from “Hava-iki” or “Little Java”, to recollect the ancestral homeland of the Polynesian), and New Zealand (Aotearoa in Maori language). Beyond this heartland, other regions were frequented by Nusantarians navigators, including the major part of the Pacific Ocean (to South America) and the Indonesian Ocean, as far as East Africa. [1]

      Today, there are approximately 300 million Nusantarians. Their communities are traditionally present in 34 officially recognized countries in Southeast Asia (including Taiwan and Hainan where the Cam Utsat people live), Oceania, and the Indonesian Ocean.’

      [1] Cf. BELLWOOD, Peter, Man’s Conquest of the Pacific. The Prehistory of Southeast Asia and Oceania, Auckland : Collins, 1978. SLAMETMULJANA. Asal Bangsa dan Bahasa Nusantara. Jakarta : Balai Pustaka, 1975. (Back to Text)

      ‘They were successful in doing this in Madagascar (defeating native African people) and the Pacific Islands (defeating native Melanesians – native islanders).

      HUH? WTF?!!

      ‘The question is, is the current climate in Malaysia more conducive for 1. or 2. ?’

      What, Ketuanan Cina in Malaysia? BOLEH BLAH!!!

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      • 10. islam1st  |  August 29, 2015 at 12:57 pm

        Nusantara 101 untuk ‘Kamal’

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