How did racist Umno allow so many Chinese to become so rich?

September 27, 2015 at 11:35 pm 90 comments

Our thanks to commenter Lousy.Engineer for alerting us to Forbes’ Richest Men in Malaysia 2015 ranking.

1, Robert Kuok, 91, $11.3B, diversified
2, Ananda Krishnan, 77, $9.7B, telecom
3, Quek Leng Chan, 74, $5.6B, banking & real estate
4, Lim Kok Thay, 64, $5.5B, casinos
5, Teh Hong Piow, 85, $5.4B, banking
6, Lee Shin Cheng, 76, $4.6B, palm oil & real estate
7, Yeoh Tiong Lay, 85, $3B, construction & real estate
8, Syed Mokhtar AlBukhary, 63, $2.9B, diversified
9, Goh Peng Ooi, 60, $1.6B, software
10, Lee Oi Hian & Lee Hau Hian, -, $1.5B, palm oil/chemicals/real estate
11, Tiong Hiew King, 80, $1.4B, timber/media
12, Surin Upatkoon, 66, $1.3B, telecoms/lotteries/insurance
13, Danny Tan Chee Sing, 60, $1.3B, real estate
14, Vincent Tan, 63, $1.2B, diversified
15, Lau Cho Kun, 80, $1.1B, palm oil/real estate
16, Tan Heng Chew, 68, $1B, motor vehicles
17, G. Gnanalingam, 71, $985M, ports
18, Kuan Kam Hon, 67, $980M, synthetic gloves
19, Jeffrey Cheah, 70, $950M, real estate
20, Azman Hashim, 76, $865M, banking
21, Shahril & Shahriman Shamsuddin, -, $860M, oil & gas
22, Yaw Teck Seng & Yaw Chee Ming, -, $820M, forestry
23, Desmond Lim Siew Choon, 54, $780M, real estate
24, Chen Lip Keong, 68, $750M, casinos
25, Syed Azman Ibrahim, 55, $740M, transport/motor vehicles
26, Mokhzani Mahathir, 54, $700M, oil & gas services
27, Lim Kang Hoo, 61, $650M, real estate
28, Ahmayuddin bin Ahmad, 59, $600M, ports
29, Chia Song Kun, 65, $560M, food production
30, Ninian Mogan Lourdenadin, 61, $550M, real estate/retail
31, Kamarudin Meranun, 54, $540M, airlines
32, Ngau Boon Keat, 67, $535M, oil & gas
33, Anthony Fernandes, 51, $530M, airlines
34, Lim Kuang Sia, 63, $510M, rubber gloves
35, Ong Leong Huat, 71, $435M, finance/real estate
36, Chong Chook Yew, 92, $380M, real estate
37, Ling Chiong Ho, 64, $350M, palm oil/ships
38, Lim Han Weng, 63, $340M, oil & gas
39, Loh Kian Chong, 39, $325M, motor vehicles/palm oil
40, Leong Hoy Kum, 58, $320M, real estate
41, Lim Wee Chai, 57, $315M, rubber gloves
42, Gooi Seong Lim, 65, $310M, property/construction
43, Kua Sian Kooi, 63, $305M, insurance
44, Khoo Kay Peng, 76, $300M, retail/hotels
45, Khoo Cheng Hai, 74, $285M, real estate
46, Lim Teck Meng, 78, $280M, Manufacturing
47, Ng Chin Heng, 66, $275M, real estate
48, Tan Chin Nam, 89, $270M, real estate
49, Abdul Hamed Sepawi, 66, $255M, timber
50. Kong Chong Soon, 74, $240M, real estate

But oh, when they’re billionaires, their race is Anak Bangsa Malaysia. Only when they go to the MCA service centre to seek Michael Chong’s help are they Chinese.

Hannah Yeoh colour blind

Racist! Racist! Racist!

The PM has been getting an overdose of bad press lately. There’s the Channel News Asia documentary that the Communications Minister complained only highlighted negative things about Malaysia and our race relations.

Then there was the Washington Post editorial last week that said Najib’s “repression and pandering to racists and Muslim extremists risks destroying the foundations of the alliance” between Washington and Putrajaya.

Today, there’s the shocking headline in The Sydney Morning Herald saying ‘Malaysian prime minister Najib Razak’s inevitable fall’. The reputable Australian newspaper quoted Tun Mahathir Mohamad via TMI as saying, “But what I see today is the government encouraging racist sentiments”.

Also today, there’s the editorial below by the J-Star CEO Wong Chun Wai.

Who has been happily slapping on the “racist” label?

The Najib administration has been getting whacked as “racist” left, right and centre by the international media.

Has Umno ever pondered on how and when the accusation gained traction? And who helped the ‘Umno-is-racist’ narrative gain traction?

It is Umno’s fault for letting them get away with it

Why has the clueless Najib administration allowed the opposition to seize control of public perception that frames Umno as racist?

Why the impression in the eyes of the foreign press that the red rally is racist while the yellow is not?

Why allow the nine percent love-love-love minority to successfully portray themselves as being persecuted by the Malay-led government labelled “racist” by the evangelical party and their Firster following?

This poisoning of the mind has been going on unimpeded for years due to Umno’s tidak apa attitude in allowing them to get away with their mud-slinging and slander.

BELOW: The newspaper that lacked any sense of moderation when its editors tweeted Hannah Yeoh’s appointment as Speaker a total of 10 times within a 24-hour span in the J-Star official Twitter timeline

WCW moderation

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Why is Najib so tidak apa?

A lot of Najib’s battered public image has been brought about by his own diffidence and indifference in allowing his purported allies to backstab him.

Most recently, we were thrown off kilter by the bombshell of the China ambassador doing his walkabout in Chinatown.

KOMA

Why is Najib not taking any action?

There’s little that Najib can do about the editorial contents of The Sydney Morning Herald, The New York Times, the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal but he can certainly rein in the Malaysian newspapers.

So why is he allowing the J-Star to channel the DAP and their evangelical agenda?

Why is Najib permitting the media empire that is owned by the MCA, which is a component of the BN, to sound and spin like a mouthpiece for the opposition?

All these stabs in the back are not only causing Najib alone to hemorrhage but very soon Umno and the BN too will start bleeding to death.

How long can Najib sustain the support of the Umno warlords should they begin to fear that the captain is unable to keep the Umno-BN ship afloat?

The Prime Minister must do something about the enemies within.

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  • 1. RINA  |  September 28, 2015 at 12:14 am

    Haiyaaa Cik Helen.

    These foreigners showed interest in Malaysia you think because want ti come here to eat nasi lemak, tempoyak or ikan terubok asin ke? Why did the Portugese, British and Japanese come here? To angkut whatever Allah gives to this blessed land la.

    Look at the list of top richest Malaysians? What business are they involved in? Mainly everything thats got to do with LAND..

    Why DAP want to goody goody with Sabah and Sarawak? You think they bother what the Muruts, Penans and Dayaks eat owh? They want their LAND maaaa. Penang and Selangor many bukits getting botak already. Even Kelantan was not spared, recent big floods huge logs also washed down from the mountains. LAND LAND LAND..

    Thousands of years mother nature gave this land those beautiful hills and mountains, all they kikis and tarah these national treasure turn into money and masuk dalam poket mereka ma.

    You think these people bother about what is left for our future generations? They kikis whatever they can from this land and chow someplace else lor!

    Make donno.. don’t layan all these foreign medias, they perasan as if in their own country everything is perfect?

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    • 2. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 12:28 am

      The foreign media use J-Star, Malaysiakini, TMI etc as their news source. They don’t use Utusan or Berita Harian.

      Najib is to be blamed for allowing a media empire owned by a BN component party to be a Nest of Evangelistas.

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      • 3. Shamshul anuar  |  September 28, 2015 at 8:27 am

        Helen,

        The list can go on and on.

        1) Reluctance to sack Saifudin though although all know his heart is not with UMNO.

        2) Reluctance to accept the ties with MCA and Gerakan are coming to its end. How can Ghani Othman lost Gelang Patah when MCA boasted that it has thousands of members in that constituency? The answer is very simple. MCA members voted for Kit Siang too.

        And MCA is rewarded with Ministerial post when it does nothing to counter DAP.

        3) Reluctance to be firm. BLACKOUT movement clearly wanted to topple BN or specifically UMNO. Yet Najib did not use the opportunity to topple the intransigent Selangor and Penang. In other countries, BLACKOUT would be deemed a treason and justify the paramount leader to whack the involved states.

        4) Refusal to accept time tested advices from grassroots but giving importances to destructive “advices” from overpaid consultants who wish to bury UMNO.

        5) REFUSAL TO ACT.

        WHY THE WHO’s WHO IN UMNO do not to repeatedly say that DAP is racist to its core. Why no one in UMNO hierarchy of importance refuses to tweet that Hannah is simply dumb and useless ADUN.

        WHY no one in UMNO Majlis Tertinggi deny What CEO of STAR said. Wong chided Jamal for Himpunan Baju Merah. He did not say anything about provocative behaviours of DAP lovers during baju Kuning demonstration.

        Why on earth no one such as Zahid, Hishamuddin chided again and again on such insulting behaviour during bahju Kuning demonstration.

        PLAYING dumb will not help.

        Why not UMNO now tells the whole world that it will contest Kulim, Alor Setar, Tanjung Malim, Alor Gajah , Padang serai seats. The announcement sends the signal to MCA that it must buck up to remain relevant.

        LAST BUT NOT LEAST, of all the people, the very PRESIDENT OF UMNO refuses to realise that despite total rejection by Chinese, his government survives .

        His government survives because of malay factor.

        YET HE underestimates it.

        Majlis Tertinggi UMNO needs a good whacking, Najib included literally speaking.

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        • 4. islam1st  |  September 30, 2015 at 2:58 am

          ‘YET HE underestimates it.’

          Apo nak dikato, the bangang gets to him?!

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    • 5. The Kineas  |  September 28, 2015 at 6:44 am

      So sue the b******s for their pants, wallets and everything else.

      Be it WSJ, Sarawak Report, New York Times, Channel NewsAsia, Sydney Morning Herald, The Star, The Edge dll.

      That also cannot do, ah?

      Where is the vaunted legal prowess that the government can harness? Sleeping at their jobs?

      As for the richest people in the country – did they make their money legally or illegally? Have they paid their fair share of taxes under the existing tax laws? Have they siphoned off funds overseas?

      Surely the Income Tax authorities, Bank Negara etc would have been all over their cases if there were any funnyman a business going on.

      That also you don’t know, ah?

      Plenty of things you don’t seem to know, lah.

      As they say, ignorance is bliss…..

      Hahaha…..

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  • 6. DenverJohn  |  September 28, 2015 at 12:57 am

    Sudahlah Helen. Tahu kenapa Najib tidak ambil sebarang tindakan? Kerana Najib Bugis Street Worrier ni top 6 dengan nilai rm4.010 billion iatu US$700 juta pada nilai US$ = rm4.3 Dan berbanding dengan kesemua dalam senarai, rm4.010 billion ini dalam matawang – CASH! Bermakna kemungkinan besar Najib Bugis Street Worrier yang terkaya diMalaysia. Sudahlah, kau ini umpama orang Melayu p. Kuning.

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    • 7. aku  |  September 28, 2015 at 7:22 am

      kak helen being atas pagar all this while..like..”berat mata memandang..berat lagi bahu yang memikul…” thanks

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    • 8. jentayu  |  September 28, 2015 at 9:04 am

      bodoh la ko ni. skandal najib berapa billion mahupun trillion tetap tak dapat nafikan yang cina2 kat Malaysia ni kaya raya. yang peliknya bila pegi kat luar pandai plak bohong cakap kena layan macam rakyat kelas kedua. melayu kat seberang jadi minority pun tak bising macam minority kat sini padahal mereka takde kuasa politik dan ekonomi pun. susah cakap dengan bangsa yang tak reti syukur ni. dapat plak kepala2 yang gangster, kaki buli dan kaki batu api.

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  • 9. tebing tinggi  |  September 28, 2015 at 6:54 am

    Chinese ambassador ding walkabout in China Town (Petaling Streets).

    How the Malay will see Chinese after this , the ambassador are adding more fuels to the burning fire ,adding to that he said ,it’s was for the interest of Chinese citizen .

    Hellen , do you have any idea how many China citizen are doing business in Petaling streets ?.

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    • 10. Orangkampung  |  September 28, 2015 at 9:23 am

      Going by looks and language if I were a foreigner who doesn’t know better, I would assume the whole place is run by Chinese just migrated from China.

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      • 11. islam1st  |  September 30, 2015 at 3:02 am

        ‘Chinese just migrated from China’

        Baru turun tongkang orang kata!

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  • 12. HH  |  September 28, 2015 at 8:49 am

    If the assumption our ruling government is not race centric because so many minorities are in the forbes’ rich list, then further correlation needs to be established to prove the fact these individuals made it because of our non-racist policies and not just their astuteness in foreign investments.

    Take for example Robert Kuok. He is at the top of the list. Is the bulk of Kuok’s wealth derived in Malaysia? Francis Yeoh’s? Lee Oi Hian’s?

    No.

    The list is based on the citizenship of the individuals but does not indicate where their wealth are dervied from. Only individuals with legit business front can make the list. So that basically eliminates people with no business front but with big accounts in Cayman Island and so on.

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    • 13. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 9:10 am

      If the government was racist, it would have expropriated the wealth and assets of the minorities and then expelled them, like how Idi Amin drove minority Indians out of Uganda with nothing more than the shirt on their back.

      Similarly earlier, Burma expelled the Indians (chettiars, merchant class) after World War Two.

      Racism means one (like Idi Amin and his ilk) simply does not like the colour of your skin or the look of your face, and certainly not to have the disliked Other be prosperous over one’s own kind. That’s racism.

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      • 14. mohd salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 10:29 am

        Kak Helen,

        As much as it would be nice to strip these guys like Amin did, it would set a dangerous precedent and would cause international business to pull away. We need to find alternative ways to get rid of them.

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        • 15. pure  |  September 28, 2015 at 1:35 pm

          Says the person who claims to be a Malay. What you’ve been saying are actually the tuduhan dan sangkaan golongan -as you always love to use- ‘pendatang’. We wanna get rid of them Chinese, wanna strip them from their wealth, wanna take back what is ours, bla bla look I’m a Malay I wanna do nasty things to others bla bla because this is what in a typical Malay mind.

          No sane Malay will utter such thing in the manner that you’ve posted here. Not even a so called ultra-Malay, if there’s one.

          Mohd Salim, konon.

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          • 16. mohd Salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 2:24 pm

            Bro,
            You are entitled to your opinion as I am mine. I did not just wake up suddenly and want to do this. But it has reached that point where they have grown too big for their boots. If not for Kak Helen and other blogs, I would not have been exposed to what these people really are like. Of course Bersih 4 was when they played their ultimate hand. So, tunggu apa lagi?
            I no longer see the need to be guarded and speak berlapik.
            But as I have always maintained, we just have to wait. With every decade, we will outpace them in terms of numbers until they are too small to be of concern.
            I am not advocating we do anything illegal. Just use our rightful powers.
            Also, my response to Helen was based on the Idi Amin example and why it woudnt work well for us.

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            • 17. Platea480  |  September 28, 2015 at 2:47 pm

              Assuming that the rest of the world will want to do business with you.

              There will always be China and India in the regional equation.

              Deal with it.

              As for what you seem to be advocating, there are enough laws on the rulebooks to deal with that.

              You wouldn’t want to put that to the test, would you?

              As for the use of “rightful powers”, it’s not the sole prerogative of one player, unless that player is delusional.

              There are several parties in our vicinity who also believe, as an article of faith, that they too have “rightful powers”.

              Sad, isn’t it – the limitations of “power”?

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              • 18. RINA  |  September 28, 2015 at 4:19 pm

                Haiyaa kamu ni..
                Topic here on depressed Chinese Malaysians who yearns to go back home to their tanah ibunda.

                Kamu ni PATI from China mainland ke?

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                • 19. Platea480  |  September 29, 2015 at 1:11 pm

                  Correction: the topic is “racist Umno and rich Chinese”…

                  That also you didn’t understand, ah?

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            • 20. pure  |  September 28, 2015 at 5:32 pm

              bq. “I no longer see the need to be guarded and speak berlapik.”

              I doubt you can even understand what ‘cakap berlapik’ really is. Without berlapik, you said “We need to find alternative ways to get rid of them.”. So can you give me an example how you can put it in a berlapik connotation without altering your (distorted) intention?

              Or you just think, ‘berlapik’ is actually ‘bermuka-muka’, like you had said in your another comment?

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              • 21. mohd Salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 7:02 pm

                meningkatkan kuasa ekonomi Bumiputra is an example. I have no distorted intention. MY pov is clear. Having bad pendatangs yields no long term benefit. But again, with time, this will be corrected. We must stay the course.

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                • 22. GG  |  September 29, 2015 at 7:15 am

                  Agreed with you abg Mohd Salim and i am really there is more malay out there will agree with your suggestion, tak boleh tahan ooooo dengan perangai mereka ni

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          • 23. Orangkampung  |  September 28, 2015 at 10:22 pm

            I thought I was alone in being suspicious of this Salim guy. He does try too hard to sound like a malay. Janggal sikit tulisannya.

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            • 24. mohd Salim  |  September 29, 2015 at 5:58 am

              Apa yang janggal sangat?

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      • 25. HH  |  September 28, 2015 at 1:50 pm

        HA

        The expulsion you talked about tilts more towards the likes of ethnic cleansing.

        Quote: “This poisoning of the mind has been going on unimpeded for years due to Umno’s tidak apa attitude in allowing them to get away”

        You construed UMNO’s nonchalance in face of accusations as tidak apa, many (especially non-Malays) see it as arrogance. UMNO is not nonchalant, they are simply happy to wear their racist label as bragging rights. Worn with pride and a testament to the Malay community UMNO’s commitment to champion their race.

        Deny? Why should UMNO?

        No point for you to attempt refuting allegations of racism on their behalf when it is the very thing they are selling to their supporters.

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    • 26. Lousy.Engineer  |  September 28, 2015 at 8:17 pm

      “Is the bulk of Kuok’s wealth derived in Malaysia? Francis Yeoh’s? Lee Oi Hian’s?
      No.”

      True dat. But still, they made their first pot of gold here nonetheless. Without that, they won’t be able to take the risk to expand and diversify their biz overseas.

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      • 27. HH  |  September 29, 2015 at 12:02 am

        Lousy Engineer

        And that is supposed to refute the existence of racist policies?

        By your same logic the Wonowidjojo ( 蔡) family in Indonesia finding their name into Forbe’s list way back in 1997, meant there is no discrimination against the Chinese despite the 1998 unrests?

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        • 28. Lousy.Engineer  |  September 29, 2015 at 9:45 pm

          You may want to re-read my earlier comment, I’m not refuting anything ; just pointing out that the rich Chinese did make it big here in M’sia first before venturing out to make more money.

          PS: I’m having brain lethargy nowadays hence no time to discuss about “racist policy”. We’re now also living in an uncertain , potentially turbulent times (i.e. economic slowdown, very poor race relationship, religious issue, etc), so we all may want to exercise restrain in virtual world and in every action we take.

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          • 29. HH  |  September 30, 2015 at 9:03 am

            Lousy Engineer

            Ok. Point taken.

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  • 30. Mulan Malaysia  |  September 28, 2015 at 10:01 am

    “may God have mercy on the racists for they love not others who are also made in God’s image.”

    may God have mercy for the dog killing church members who take delight in killing all dogs whether they bite or not.

    https://i1.wp.com/imageprocessor.websimages.com/width/500/crop/0,0,500×331/fccbm.webs.com/FCC.JPG?zoom=2

    One dog bites one church goer, so it is justifiable to kill all dogs. What would Jesus do? Amen.

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    • 31. Mulan Malaysia  |  September 28, 2015 at 11:08 am

      Adolph Lim knows that the church is the best way to halalkan the killing of dogs. No Buddhist, Taoist or Hindu temple will endorse and halalkan his actions because of the fear of karma.

      Political Christianity has its use. Use a case of a church goer who was bitten by a dog and sell his point to obliterate dogs. Is the dog a rabid dog or just a dog? The point is halalkan the kill. Amen.

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  • 32. Mulan Malaysia  |  September 28, 2015 at 10:20 am

    The Adolph Lim is justifying why he must kill.Earlier he used the church. Now a blog. Chief Murderer.

    Anyway eat moon cake first. Baru ada energy kill dogs.

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    • 33. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 10:28 am

      re: “Earlier he used the church. Now a blog.”

      That blogger is @hannahyeoh’s BFF.

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  • 34. mohd salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 10:32 am

    Kak Helen,

    You cannot blame UMNO entirely. As made clear in this blog, the Chinese are a sneaky bunch. Despite our best efforts to take back what is ours, these guys have found ways to make money and they will continue to do so.

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  • 35. mohd salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 10:40 am

    While I applaud you for raising the awareness of the evangelistas, let us also be vigilant of the other pendatang. The Buddhist monks have been the chief troublemakers in both Sri Lanka and Myanmar. They too sell their ‘non-violent’ love juice. The Hindus have their Shiv Senna. They were the ones behind the Babri mosque incident.

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    • 36. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 1:02 pm

      Nonetheless only the Church was visibly backing Bersih 4.0.

      Even during GE13, the other religionists were lower profile.

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      • 37. mohd Salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 1:16 pm

        yes, but if we are not to repeat the mistakes of the past, we must keep a close watch on the other religions as well. The Hindus especially with their flagrant disrespect by erecting temples at every other junction and tree. Remember, it was the temple in Selangor that offended the Muslims so much it triggered the ‘cow head’ incident.

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        • 38. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 1:49 pm

          re: “Remember, it was the temple in Selangor that offended the Muslims so much it triggered the ‘cow head’ incident.”

          Muslims oughtn’t take offence so easily when Hindu priests do not try to convert Malays to Hinduism.

          e.g. Firstly, Wira Perkasa had objected to the construction of a Hindu temple in Putrajaya.

          Then they backpedaled to say that the movement objected to the temple’s main entrance facing Putrajaya the symbol of Muslim pride where 94 percent of the residents are Malay. Perkasa wanted the temple door to face Banting instead.

          Nonetheless, that one Hindu temple being built in Putrajaya was a ‘compensation’ (restitution/replacement) for 15 Hindu temples that earlier had to make way when estate land was developed to raise our new administrative capital.

          Remember that Putrajaya is standing on former rubber and oil palm plantations, and a lot of rubber tappers and estate workers were displaced (evicted from their quarters) and lost their jobs.

          When you look at things in perspective – one new Hindu temple to replace 15 demolished temples which were old and of sentimental value – then the Malays should not begrudge the Indians their sole temple in Putrajaya.

          Next example is the refurbishment of a historical Hindu temple in Port Klang town. Isma had complained that the amount spent would make the 130-year-old temple too grand.

          Dr Chandra Muzaffar defended the temple, and this was my turning point that made me like and respect the man. See, http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/intolerance-and-disrespect-prevalent-among-communities-in-malaysia

          As for the ‘cow head’ incident, the behaviour of the Muslims was most intolerant and disrespectful.

          Why should Indians be deprived of a decent place of worship just because there is a local Muslim population? After all, the Indians were there first and then marginalized due to the rapid property developments.

          The Indians do apply to the government (state and federal) for land to rebuild their temples which were forced to relocate, but they’re sometimes given unsuitable areas like beside power stations or near sewage ponds.

          If there is constant objection – such as by the Cow Head group – who do not want Indians to have recourse to regulated and legal buildings, then we will certainly get the problem of illegal construction such as the shrines under big trees.

          It is better to allow the Indians to have proper temples they can take pride in as their community centres (including to conduct traditional weddings) rather than to have them pray ad hoc here and there, and inappropriately taking over public space.

          If the Indians generally do not interfere with Muslim worship, then the Muslims should leave them alone.

          I do not see any outcry from Malays over munafiq DAP evangelistas donning tudung (dan tak tahu pun dema ada ambil wuduk atau mandi hadas) tramping all over the prayer halls in the mosques.

          Some Malays have got their priorities all wrong. No wonder the triumphalist DAP evangelistas think the Malay race are suckers. Mudah jer telan madah berhelah.

          BELOW: Hannah Yeoh’s interns Occupy Masjid. JAIS or MAIS not gonna do anything about this, meh?

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          • 39. mohd Salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 2:05 pm

            Kak Helen,
            No one is denying their right to pray but if the majority is uncomfortable, then deal with it. They are looking the gift horse in the mouth if they turn down whatever space we give them. They should feel grateful that they are allowed the level of religious freedom they get here. Look at what we allow them for Thaipusam and Batu Caves. They even get 2 public holidays a year!! I don’t see Deepavali as a national holiday in the US or Australia…………..and there’s a sizeable Indian population there.
            Also as a non-Muslim, I respectfully state that you cannot presume to speak about what offends us, or not.
            If there are enough Muslims, be it Perkasa or ISMA, who find something offensive to the kedaulatan of Islam then the others must respect it. It is enshrined in the constitution about Islam special position.

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            • 40. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 2:31 pm

              Kak Helen,

              re: “No one is denying their right to pray but if the majority is uncomfortable, then deal with it.”

              Malays had a tradition of religious accommodation in the past. The number of Buddhist temples in Tumpat, Kelantan is testament to this.

              Please evaluate which other faith it is that Muslims here today are feeling threatened by. Is it Hinduism, Buddhism or Christianity? Tolong jangan pukul rata.

              re: “They are looking the gift horse in the mouth if they turn down whatever space we give them. They should feel grateful that they are allowed the level of religious freedom they get here.”

              The actions of the Cow Head group and those like-minded to them has alienated the Indian community. This behaviour is just driving a pivotal voter segment, especially in the West Coast and don’t forget a key swing state Johor, into the arms of the love-love-love evangelical party.

              re: “Look at what we allow them for Thaipusam and Batu Caves.”

              Tu sekali setahun jer.

              re: “They even get 2 public holidays a year!! I don’t see Deepavali as a national holiday in the US or Australia…………..and there’s a sizeable Indian population there.”

              This is a good argument in favour of Umno’s moderation. But the nonchalant party does not know how to sell itself and tak pasal-pasal losing voters to the sneaky but slick self-marketers DAP.

              re: “Also as a non-Muslim, I respectfully state that you cannot presume to speak about what offends us, or not. If there are enough Muslims, be it Perkasa or ISMA, who find something offensive to the kedaulatan of Islam then the others must respect it.”

              You must also respect the rights of the minorities as citizens of this country under the Freedom of Religion Article 11.

              The following is one example of a dispute taken to court in the battle between legality and causing offence. It’s the case of the transgender cross-dressing in Negeri Sembilan. The orthodox Muslims find men dressing up as women to be offensive (and perhaps ‘wrong’ under Muslim law – I can’t be sure on this point.)

              However our civil court ruled that it is the right and their freedom within the boundaries of the law for the transgenders (albeit they’re Muslim men) to dress in a feminine manner. Taking offence does not make your objection legal as long as we’re not an Islamic state.

              re: “It is enshrined in the constitution about Islam special position.”

              Islam’s position as Religion of the Federation – I take it – does not condone the boorish behaviour of the Cow Head group to treat a religious symbol that is sacred to Hindus with such contempt.

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              • 41. mohd Salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 2:41 pm

                Re: Malays had a tradition of religious accommodation in the past. The number of Buddhist temples in Tumpat, Kelantan is testament to this.

                I am not saying no to all temples so am happy to continue accommodating.

                Please evaluate which other faith it is that Muslims here today are feeling threatened by. Is it Hinduism, Buddhism or Christianity? Tolong jangan pukul rata.

                As I said in my follow-up comment, the Christians are the ones in the cross hair but let’s also be mindful lest the rest start to take their cue

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                • 42. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 2:53 pm

                  re: “let’s also be mindful lest the rest start to take their cue”

                  This is unfortunately tied to politics. If you want to prevent a religious conflagration, then you have to stop the DAP evangelistas in their track.

                  An estimated 90 percent of the Chinese politically support the evangelical party. This means that Chinese Buddhists and Taoists also support the DAP which is led by the evangelistas who are preachers of hate.

                  Likewise the percentage of Indian voters who support the opposition similarly indicates that Hindus support the DAP too.

                  DAP is playing political Christianity. The history of mankind tells us that the great rivalry has always been between Christianity and Islam. It is the Clash of Civilizations. It is crusades vs. jihad.

                  If the evangelical DAP is not stopped, then their Politics of Hate will drag Buddhists, Taoists, Hindus and Sikhs into the quagmire of the party’s greedy power grab and manipulation of Islam (such as their pura-pura puasa/tweeting #sahur, mengucap ayat-ayat suci Al-Quran dan memetik Hadith, and of course, the tudung camouflage).

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                  • 43. mohd Salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 2:57 pm

                    exactly my point…………..let’s make a lesson of them so that the others will learn not to try to do the same

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              • 44. mohd Salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 2:46 pm

                Re: The actions of the Cow Head group and those like-minded to them has alienated the Indian community. This behaviour is just driving a pivotal voter segment, especially in the West Coast and don’t forget a key swing state Johor, into the arms of the love-love-love evangelical party

                Yes, we may lose what little Indian support the BN still has but to pander to them for short term gains wont make the problem go away. We need to draw a line in the sand.

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              • 45. mohd Salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 2:52 pm

                Re: You must also respect the rights of the minorities as citizens of this country under the Freedom of Religion Article 11.

                You may not be aware but this verdict has really angered the ground. Read the web to see what people are saying about the judge behind this. In any case, the Lina Joy, the Indian lady whose husband converted – are some of the case that proves Syariah law can take precedence in some cases.

                We are not saying ‘don’t build a temple’. just don’t build it where it might offend us and the position of Islam

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                • 46. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 3:02 pm

                  re: “this verdict has really angered the ground”

                  Noted. But the judgment was based on the Yang Arif-Yang Arif’s strict interpretation of the law. They were just doing their job professionally in upholding the Constitution.

                  re: “some of the case that proves Syariah law can take precedence in some cases”

                  In the balance of things, if public order is threatened – then yes. This is why I understand the rationale of the apex court is finding against the Christian publication The Herald in the ‘Allah’ case.

                  The evangelistas trying to kebas kalimah ‘Allah’ is an attack on the core ideology of Islam. Hence I support the decision of the court.

                  The above, however, is different from the issue of the location of a Hindu temple where it concerns the sensitivities of the local Malay-Muslim residents who feel offended by a proposed building to serve the adherents of another religion.

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                  • 47. mohd Salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 3:36 pm

                    Sorry Kak Helen, I think when it comes to religion and the position of Islam, there can be no ‘grey’ areas or room for interpretation. if ‘public order was threatened’ as in the case of the cow head, then based on the cases you have stated, the rule is clear. Do not anger the Muslims. The only difference is, one was a localized incident while the other was across the country.

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                    • 48. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 3:43 pm

                      If the Cow Head group felt that their akidah was threatened, they should have applied for a legal remedy (e.g. prevention order) through the courts.

                      Don’t take the law into your own hands.

                      Until and unless Malaysia becomes a full-fledged Islamic state, civil law in Malaysia still supercedes Islamic law. The Constitution reigns supreme.

              • 49. mohd Salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 2:55 pm

                Re: Islam’s position as Religion of the Federation – I take it – does not condone the boorish behaviour of the Cow Head group to treat a religious symbol that is sacred to Hindus with such contempt.

                Islam’s position means it takes precedence over the other religions. If the residents felt that their akidah was being threatened, it was their right to protest. The same way that they stood up to the church in Kg Medan.

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                • 50. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 3:37 pm

                  re: “If the residents felt that their akidah was being threatened, it was their right to protest.”

                  Again, I reiterate – Muslims must appraise whether their ‘territory’ – be it spatial or spiritual – has been breached or invaded.

                  In the case of the DAP evangelical Christians, the evangelistas have clearly been entering mosques and suraus at will. This is an incursion into Muslim space in defiance of MAIS’s circular and the Sultan of Selangor’s expressed displeasure.

                  Do the Hindu YBs and their operatives enter mosques to do their politicking? The answer is ‘No’.

                  Secondly, the evangelistas are being socially intrusive in extending their political agenda. Such as entering the mosques to distribute Mandarin oranges during CNY.

                  Do the Hindu YBs and their operatives enter mosques to distribute muruku during Deepavali? The answer is ‘No’.

                  Do the Hindus claim that Lord Brahma is ‘Allah’? No.

                  Do the Hindus go around quoting the Quran and Hadith to gain political mileage? No.

                  Do the Hindus don tudung to Occupy Masjid? No.

                  Do the Hindus pull all kinds of cheap gimmicks in the name of building interfaith bridges? No.

                  Do the Hindus organize forums that say that it is alright for Muslims to murtad? No. But the evangelistas did. The Tabernacle church – a big evangelical church in Subang Jaya pastored by the influential NECF chairman – organized a talk where Mujahid Yusof Rawa was one of the speakers.

                  It was also this event (organized by a big evangelical church) where Nurul Izzah as invited speaker made a faux pas of saying that Malays should be accorded “freedom of religion” too, which taken to its logical conclusion infers that they are allowed to freely leave Islam.

                  So my dear Muslims, please lah — F-O-C-U-S!

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                  • 51. mohd Salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 3:44 pm

                    Agree on all points Kak Helen. But doesn’t take away from the cow head temple or the Putajaya temple or the Port Klang one. Whether they be Christians, Hindus, Buddhists or Scientologists, if Muslims feel threatened, there is a problem. While completely recognizing the Christian attack, it doesn’t reduce the abovementioned situations. Respectfully, you cannot tell Muslims what to be offended about.

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                    • 52. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 3:57 pm

                      re: “if Muslims feel threatened, there is a problem”

                      The Muslims will feel more threatened when the Malays are being fiercely threatened in their political dominance by the evangelical party DAP.

                      The 90 percent Chinese who support the DAP and the smaller percentage who are rabid Dapsters fail to grasp that there will certainly be a blowback in reaction to the way they keep pushing and pushing – no holds barred – to take over Putrajaya.

                      re: “Respectfully, you cannot tell Muslims what to be offended about.”

                      Believe me, I do take on board the feedback that I get from my blog readers and I try as best I can to understand the sensitivities.

                      I shall take this opportunity to all those who have sincerely tried to explain the Muslim point of view in controversies such as korban lembu di perkarangan sekolah, kes murtad mualaf keturunan India, dsb.

                      It is because I empathize that I side with the Muslims on the ‘Allah’ issue and I did not wear the #Je suis Charlie badge.

                      However, I maintain that the actions of the Cow Head group was offensive and an over-reaction.

                  • 53. mohd Salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 3:55 pm

                    The Indians have no economic power nor are they as organized as the Chinese. They just cakap banyak as shown from Bar Council. In any case, they are no threat to the Bumiputera and I have no problem with them if they stay in their current positions. Of course the few who do make it really ‘riuh sekampung’…eg. Ambiga, Tony Fernandes,…..

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                  • 54. mohd Salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 4:12 pm

                    In any case Kak Helen, principally, we are in agreement. You keep the ‘big gun’ focused on the Christians and I’ll play sniper to watch out for the other straggler pendatangs who are starting to having delusions of grandeur… :)

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                    • 55. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 6:57 pm

                      Speak for yourself.

                    • 56. mohd Salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 7:13 pm

                      Sorry Kak Helen, did I say something wrong?

                • 57. Platea480  |  September 28, 2015 at 3:54 pm

                  I would love to see #mohd Salim trying to peddle his views elsewhere, say in Singapore.

                  It’s only in Malaysia that he can twist and bamboozle the credulous.

                  It is interesting that his views are tinged with an ample of amount of condescension towards other religions in Malaysia – like count your blessings, be thankful for what you are allowed and don’t question the status quo.

                  Blah, blah and more blah.

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                  • 58. mohd Salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 4:05 pm

                    Platea, no condescension towards any religion. Just stating the facts……………as non- Muslims, the constitution gives you certain rights…but not if they threaten the position of Islam.
                    And, why cant I expect some gratitude. As Helen, pointed out, which other country would be so generous to give an entire immigrant population citizenship, just like that. Do not take our kindness for granted.

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                    • 59. Platea480  |  September 29, 2015 at 8:44 am

                      Hmm…Australia, the US, Canada, the UK, Singapore….?

                      And what “kindness” are you talking about?

                      It’s risible that you have the gall to talk about Islam being “threatened”. I suggest you bone up on current affairs such as the Sunni-Shia divide, ISIS and the refugees flooding into Europe. What “threat” are the latter fleeing from?

                      And who is an existential threat in the eyes of security agencies worldwide – ISIS or evangelical Christians?

                      “Threats”? Let’s talk about “threats”, including your puerile attempts to whitewash the status quo.

                • 60. drinho  |  September 28, 2015 at 7:03 pm

                  Kg Medan church? What happens now? Protest already done. But church still operates as usual. Not sure if cross is restored. Police investigated some protesters. Not sure of the outcome. Guess no wrong doing found. So what is the point of protest? Status quo remained.

                  Akidah threatened. If we allow 100 odd people to protest and force the church to close down, what next? Another 100 odd people protest and we need to close everything deemed to be unIslamic. Close down Genting, cinemas, massage parlour, bar, pubs, Carlsberg factory, conventional banks etc etc. Where do we draw the line?

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            • 61. drinho  |  September 28, 2015 at 7:06 pm

              Why ‘jealous’ with Deepavali as a holiday? After all, the Muslims also get holiday during Deepavali right? You can complaint if on Deepavali, the Malays/Muslims have no right to enjoy the same as holiday.

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          • 62. mohd Salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 2:13 pm

            P.S. Not trying to take away from our main focus which is to get the Christians and prevent them from the mayhem you have proved they are trying to cause. For recognizing and highlighting their insidious agenda, I do thank you. Just want to ensure that the other pendatangs stay in line. Otherwise they might be emboldened to start speaking up as well. Yes, we don’t see the Hindu samis trying to sell their idolism nor step into the mosque.

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            • 63. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 2:41 pm

              re: “Yes, we don’t see the Hindu samis trying to sell their idolism nor step into the mosque.”

              Just stick to our present reality, please. No Hindu priests or pendakwah are trying to convert Malays to Hinduism.

              On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence that the DAP evangelistas are not only stepping into the mosque but invited by some puak pengkhianat to deliver tazkirah at the mimbar.

              Furthermore I’m convinced that the evangelistas are covertly converting Malays to Christianity, only it has been hushed up like in the Damansara Utama Methodist Church (DUMC) case.

              Even as we speak, the Christian missionary ship MV Logos Hope is berthed in the Penang port. Malays are duped into going to the world’s biggest floating book fair without realising the organizer’s secret agenda.

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    • 64. Indian  |  September 28, 2015 at 2:58 pm

      I’ve yet to hear of a single incident where Malaysian Buddhists and/or Hindus initiated any kind of trouble against Malay Muslims or invaded any mosque, much less lay claim to “Allah.”

      Kalau nak jadi paranoid tak pasai pasai pun, bagi la ada sebab yang munasabah.

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      • 65. mohd Salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 3:31 pm

        Indian,

        I have not made any such accusation. The Sikhs do, btw. In any case, I am just advocating vigilance. Religion is a dangerous tool in the wrong hands. Once you open that door, you will be inviting the others to start grumbling also. 30 years ago we didn’t have a Christian problem.

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  • 66. drinho  |  September 28, 2015 at 11:00 am

    Helen,

    Wealth may be owned by Chinese. But given by Malay elites. Heard of the term ‘crony capitalism index’? Read here:

    http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/malaysia-ranks-third-in-the-economists-crony-capitalism-index

    To summarise, the wealth of billionaires in Malaysia is given, guaranteed and protected by the ruling government. Look at the nature of their business i.e. crony sectors. All require some form of government protection like exclusive license, concession, monopoly/oligopoly, non-competition etc.

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    • 67. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 1:00 pm

      Given the nexus of crony capitalism, how is it that Pakatan/Harapan, i.e. the camp opposed to the government, has 90 percent Chinese support?

      The Chinese billionaires are hedging their bet by backing both sides of the political fence.

      I believe the war chest was beginning to dry up for the BN in the last election. Thus BN will go into the next election with the consideration that the opposition is getting much greater funding than they’ve ever procured before.

      Given the (lack of, or equality of) cash flow, there’s no guarantee that Umno-BN will prevail in GE14. There’s a possibility that the ruling party could lose.

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      • 68. drinho  |  September 28, 2015 at 6:55 pm

        My observation is that only the elite Chinese will continue to support BN, politically and financially. These are billionaires or businessmen that rely on the ruling party for survival. However, winning election is always a perception or numbers game. BN may have billions of fundings (eg. Najib’s 2.6 bil). But it will not necessarily translate into votes.

        Just an example. A Chinese tycoon owns a multi billion company with tens of thousands of employees. When it comes to voting, the value of vote for this tycoon and his low ranking employees are the same i.e. one head one vote. At most he and his board of directors and top management will vote BN. But these numbers are very small compare to the middle/low management and non-executive employees that vote for oppo. That is why you have 90% voting oppo and 10% voting BN. Of course the 10% includes ordinary/average Chinese.

        Can you imagine the consequence if electoral system is fair (i.e. no gerrymandering) and oppo has similar strength of political funding (eg. equivalent of Najib’s 2.6 bil)?

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        • 69. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 7:01 pm

          re: “Can you imagine the consequence if electoral system is fair (i.e. no gerrymandering) and oppo has similar strength of political funding (eg. equivalent of Najib’s 2.6 bil)?”

          Same reason we have Article 153. Tun has said more than once that the Malays need to be protected.

          The things that Dapsters are capable of doing. It’s one of the reason I’m not on Twitter or Facebook. The evangelista sniper squad will troll me to death.

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          • 70. drinho  |  September 28, 2015 at 7:14 pm

            Are you trying to say that gerrymandering and accepting donation without accountability is ok as long as it protects the Malay (read: as long as Umno is in power)?

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            • 71. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 7:45 pm

              At the time that our Constitution was drawn up, the Reid Commission did agree to a weightage of 15 percent in favour of rural constituencies. Off-hand I cannot recall if there was a sunset clause attached.

              The 15% cap was later removed through a constitutional amendment. Nonetheless, in principle our Constitution allowed the deliberate bias. It was not ‘one man one vote’ in terms of headcount vs value of each vote.

              Some of the overly big urban Parliament constituencies (relatively speaking) were BN ones too such as Shah Alam and Serdang prior to 2008.

              Putrajaya is an outlier (due to its special status), I suppose, like Washington DC. However, I agree that Kapar is too big.

              As for the ‘donation’, we do not have regulations on political funding. And he does not appear to have broken any existing law. He has pledged that the amount is not for his personal use and he may be speaking the truth because obviously the BN requires a war chest.

              About the ‘PROTECTION’, oh most definitely. I’m convinced that all decent human beings need to be shielded from the DAP dajjal.

              Pro-DAP individuals who criticize Pakatan (say Wong Chin Huat as one example) do not need any protection because there is no BN mob to attack him for it. However anyone who criticizes the DAP will be instantly set upon by the Dapster family shock troops.

              See the tweet by this young lass who complained that LGE “sent a troop of cybertroopers to bully me”. There was the other young lady (Shen Yee Aun’s friend) who was threatened with rape for uploading a homemade video of her campaign ad for the BN – this was in 2013.

              And Uncle Simon Thong of Taman Kaya, Ipoh was not only bullied (as recorded in the photos I uploaded earlier) but he was also harassed in a concerted online campaign. His bullies were DAP lower-level leaders.

              Then there was Dr Looi who was also vilified, harassed and bullied through the social media when he disputed the DAP-linked Himpunan Hijau’s claim on (alleged) radioactivity from the Lynas plant.

              Like I said, decent human beings – all races – need protection from the unhinged agents of the evangelical party. So I can understand the intent of Article 153.

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              • 72. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 7:54 pm

                Add:

                “the other young lady (Shen Yee Aun’s friend) who was threatened with rape”

                She was not only threatened with rape by one demented Dapster but by several. Also murder threats. You can see screenshots of the FB timeline – google in Dr Novandri Basri’s blog.

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              • 73. drinho  |  September 29, 2015 at 9:32 am

                Good Helen. Let us talk based on facts.

                1. Overall GE 13 results. BN won 47% of votes but command 60% of seats. PR won 52% but only command 40% of seats. I postulate that in order for the Oppo party to win the a simple majority in Parliament (i.e. 50% seats plus 1), it would require them winning 60-65% of votes. Isn’t this a clear case of excessive gerrymandering?

                2. Our Constitution originally provided the permissible difference in no. of voters between the largest and smallest constituency shall be max 15%. It was later raised to 33% and thereafter removed altogether. That is why we have Kapar vs Putrajaya or 9:1 but both produce one MP each. Try compare Putrajaya with Serdang and Gombak as well.

                Read here if you have the time: http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/229578

                And do try to read New Sin Yew’s article on the gerrymandering of FT seats. http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/sideviews/article/why-we-should-not-celebrate-federal-territories-day-new-sin-yew

                4. Read S. 3 of MACC Act. ‘Donation’ is a form of bribe. Our MACC has conveniently close the case as “Not all donations are bribes”. You know what is the consequence? Any bribe can be given to government officers and politicians under the pretext of donation in order to circumvent bribery. We are setting a very dangerous precedent.

                5. Buruk sangka? The article by Waytha of Hindraf said it precisely on the corrupted state of our government agencies. Not to mention the selective persecution under the Sedition Act on certain Oppo politicians, academicians and activists.

                6. Ali Tinju. AG dropped the charge citing lack of evidence. How can that be? The video of him making the speech is widely available. If really lack of evidence, why file the charge at the first place? The act of Ali Tinju may not amount to sedition. Yet it may fall under less severe crime, e.g. Penal Code sections 506 (criminal intimidation), 504 (breach of peace) or 505 (public mischief). Definitely not scot-free and ‘lack of evidence’.

                7. “Gweilo and other expats and their MNCs pay a lot of taxes too.” I suppose this is the same treatment used by any other country in the world. Voting rights are given to citizens. But taxes are imposed on income earned in Malaysia irrespective of whether the earner is a citizen or not.

                BTW, what happened to the police report that Perkasa lodged against you? No further action?

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                • 74. Helen Ang  |  September 29, 2015 at 10:18 am

                  Good drinho. Let us talk based on reality.

                  re: “I postulate that in order for the Oppo party to win the a simple majority in Parliament (i.e. 50% seats plus 1), it would require them winning 60-65% of votes. Isn’t this a clear case of excessive gerrymandering?”

                  We had the 15 percent rural weightage written on our birth certificate, remember?

                  And you’re also telling us that the figure was raised to 33 percent in our childhood years.

                  It appears that even in adulthood, the ‘protection’ is still needed. So, it looks like this is a case of reflecting the intent of the Constitution and Article 153, i.e. protecting the Malays from xyz.

                  re: “That is why we have Kapar vs Putrajaya or 9:1 but both produce one MP each. Try compare Putrajaya with Serdang and Gombak as well.”

                  Why are you being so anal retentive about Putrajaya and comparing with Kapar, Serdang and Gombak?

                  It’s one seat out of 222, and as I’ve repeatedly said Putrajaya is a special (outlier, anomaly) because it is our administrative capital. If you will take a glance at the USA, Washington DC too is neither here nor there when Americans vote.

                  Taking the ‘worst case scenario’ in the peninsula, the biggest variance is Langkawi to Kapar at 1 to 3.8. This is a far cry from the 1:10 soundbite that the opposition has falsely propagandized.

                  And for heaven’s sake, Langkawi is a whole island further offshore and bigger than Penang, and which has only got one MP serving all of the island’s inhabitants.

                  re: “And do try to read New Sin Yew’s article on the gerrymandering of FT seats.”

                  Granted, KL and the Klang Valley is the most densely populated while Sabah and Sarawak are sparsely populated relative to the size of both states and their still remaining largely ‘rural’ (interior, jungle, rainforest).

                  Which view do you hold? Is Malaysia comprised of 14 states or of three blocs – Malaya, Sabah and Sarawak (with Singapore as the fourth bloc at the time of Malaysia’s formation in 1963)?

                  If you hold the latter view of 1+1+1, then of course the weightage is advantageous to Sabah and Sarawak. Just compare Sarawak’s sheer size to Perlis, Penang, Malacca and Negeri. Are Perlis and Sarawak to be “equal”, with both being 1/14? Tak, kan?

                  So the apportionment of seats (Sarawak has a lot) reflects a compromise along the continuum of 1/14 and 1/3.

                  In fact, this guarantee to Sabah and Sarawak is contained in the Malaysia Act, just like the 15 percent protection was written into our 1957 birth cert.

                  re: “We are setting a very dangerous precedent.”

                  DAP is dangerously playing with fire and risking our country going up in flames with their evangelical attempt to topple Najib on account/excuse of the ‘donation’.

                  re: “The article by Waytha of Hindraf said it precisely on the corrupted state of our government agencies.”

                  Unfortunately, neither the ruling party nor the opposition are paying attention to him. Pity.

                  re: “AG dropped the charge citing lack of evidence.”

                  We’re still waiting for the AG’s chamber to charge TMI for sedition. The inaction relates to both sides of the political divide.

                  re: “Voting rights are given to citizens. But taxes are imposed on income earned in Malaysia irrespective of whether the earner is a citizen or not.”

                  Irrespective of whether the Chinese pays more personal income tax and the Malay/Indian less, their voting right is the same going by locality – say a Gombak Chinese or Gombak Malay or Gombak Indian. So why ungkit the amount of tax paid by individual Malaysian citizens?

                  re: “BTW, what happened to the police report that Perkasa lodged against you? No further action?”

                  Perkasa’s countless police reports are next in frivolity only to Rani Kulup.

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            • 75. drinho  |  September 28, 2015 at 9:25 pm

              “One man one vote”. This should be the correct principle in election system. Eg. urban vs rural. Urban no. of votes is 10 times more than rural. I agree that rural requires more attention in term of development. However, it is the urban voters that paid more taxes and contribute more to the economy. “One man one vote” is too idealistic. Instead of a ratio of 1:10 (urban:rural), perhaps can normalise to ratio 1:2-3. The representatives in Parliament must reflect the urban vs rural divide. Government can give more financial allocation to rural areas. But not excessive political weightage.

              ‘Putrajaya vs Kapar’. BN will not rectify such discrepancy. In fact, they will create even more.

              For the impact of gerrymandering of FT seats, read here: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/sideviews/article/why-we-should-not-celebrate-federal-territories-day-new-sin-yew

              ‘Donation’. I concede we have no laws on political funding. But we do have laws on corruption. But our enforcers are corrupted. From the police/MACC to AG to judiciary. MACC can dismiss the donation as having no corruption element. Just compare the case of Khir Toyo with sardine thief. Link: http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2015/09/24/waytha-sardine-thief-10-years-khir-toyo-a-year/

              The AG can simply drop the charge against Ali Tinju without citing reasons despite the clear indication of sedition in his speech.

              Another example is the remand of Khairuddin based on Penal Code and Sosma. Where is the crime in lodging police reports in various countries? After all, let the police in these respective countries investigate. If no case, it ends there. There is no obligation on the lodger to ensure that his report really have basis that can lead to prosecution. Anyone can lodge a report and police will investigate to decide whether the report has basis or otherwise. In Msia, we have ‘King of Police Report’, Abdul Rani Kulup. Thousands of reports were lodged by him but zero prosecution. Why no action taken against him?

              ‘Intimidation by DAP’. Please ask all the affected parties to lodge police reports. We have laws on intimidation. After all, police would love to find faults with DAP.

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              • 76. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 10:24 pm

                re: “Instead of a ratio of 1:10 (urban:rural), perhaps can normalise to ratio 1:2-3.”

                There are no any two seats at the ratio of 1:10, excluding Putrajaya which, as I’ve said, is a special case because it’s our administrative capital.

                The biggest Parliament seat is Kapar – 144,159 voters. The smallest is Langkawi – 37,536 but do note that this seat covers a whole island that is bigger than Penang.

                A ferry trip from Kuah jetty to Langkawi takes one hour 15 minutes compared to a Penang-Butterworth ferry crossing which takes 20 minutes. Comparison of journey time is for an indication of accessibility.

                Thus one man’s vote in Langkawi is worth 3.8 votes in Kapar but then again, it is a ‘remote’ (relatively speaking) island after all and its MP has to cover an area bigger than the whole of Penang island.

                The next smallest seats are Mersing (44,497) and Masjid Tanah (45,952), both rural seats but surprisingly – to me, at least – the latter rural seat is in Malacca. I mean I know MT is in Malacca but I’m surprised it’s categorized as rural and surprised to learn that Malacca still has rural areas.

                The ratio between Kapar and Mersing is only 1: 3.2 hence it’s not the alarmist 1:10 that you signalled. See, when we dig into real facts, we discover that we’ve been fed a lot of opposition propaganda.

                re: “Government can give more financial allocation to rural areas. But not excessive political weightage.”

                Back in 1957, the political weightage was part of the Article 153 package.

                re: “Putrajaya vs Kapar. BN will not rectify such discrepancy. In fact, they will create even more.”

                You ni buruk sangka. Quite frankly, I don’t have this knee-jerk prejudice against the BN.

                re: “For the impact of gerrymandering of FT seats, read here”

                Will do.

                re: “But we do have laws on corruption.”

                How to prove that receiving RM2.6 billion is corrupt? It’s a flabbergasting question :) and rather out-of-this-world (mind-boggling) in many respects. Which law to charge under?

                re: “But our enforcers are corrupted.”

                There you go again – berburuk sangka.

                re: “From the police/MACC to AG to judiciary.”

                More buruk sangka. Hey, Utusan has been losing, and Lim Guan Eng has been winning a series of libel suits.

                re: “Just compare the case of Khir Toyo with sardine thief.”

                If Waytha says so. Of course I feel for the Hindraf issues.

                re: “The AG can simply drop the charge against Ali Tinju without citing reasons despite the clear indication of sedition in his speech.”

                Which part? Pls cite.

                re: “Another example is the remand of Khairuddin based on Penal Code and Sosma. Where is the crime in lodging police reports in various countries?”

                I dunno. I’ll wait for Salleh Said Keruak to explain.

                re: “Anyone can lodge a report and police will investigate to decide whether the report has basis or otherwise. In Msia, we have ‘King of Police Report’, Abdul Rani Kulup. Thousands of reports were lodged by him but zero prosecution.”

                Precisely! Perkasa lodged one measly police report against me, and this fact has been spun by the Dapsters to build a whole flaming straw man of fitnah and their own conspiracy theories against me.

                re: “Please ask all the affected parties to lodge police reports.”

                It’s possible that Shen Yee Aun’s friend did lodge a police report. When I next meet him, I’ll ask about the outcome. But Chew Mei Fun similarly lodged a police report wrt the fitnah ‘they’ kenakan her during the Kajang by-election campaign, and I don’t recall any follow-up news.

                Heck, even the police report lodged by the Penyimpan Mohor Besar di-Raja (vis-a-vis the TMI article) has not resulted in any prosecution as yet.

                As for Dr Looi’s trauma, it could be more the nature of libel suit. But how to trace the Anon character assassins? (You can google in my blog Comments section to find out details of Dr Looi’s complaint/story).

                re: “We have laws on intimidation. After all, police would love to find faults with DAP.”

                The DAP Adun for Sri Delima (YB Rayer) was supposedly to be charged under sedition, remember? His case seems to have fallen off the radar too.

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                • 77. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 10:35 pm

                  TO ADD

                  Helen said: “See, when we dig into real facts, we discover that we’ve been fed a lot of opposition FALSE propaganda.”

                  _____________________________________

                  Separately,

                  You said, “However, it is the urban voters that paid more taxes and contribute more to the economy.”

                  I just wish to highlight and point out your materialistic streak.

                  Gweilo and other expats and their MNCs pay a lot of taxes too. Despite being big taxpayers, they have zero direct say in our sociopolitical policies.

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                • 78. Orangkampung  |  September 28, 2015 at 11:04 pm

                  “Where is the crime in lodging police reports in various country?”
                  It doesn’t sound like a criminal act, and yet doesn’t it seem just a tad treasonous? Khairuddin seemed to be inviting foreign inteference in our judiciary.

                  It is kinda like the China ambassador issue. If he was invited by our citizen to say what he did, I uphold that that person should be hauled up for questioning. But if the ambassador did it on his own, I can assume he was misguided.

                  The end should never justify the means.

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  • 79. Ibu Zain  |  September 28, 2015 at 11:45 am

    UMNO have everything to win should it as an organization is able to galvanize the sentiments which is currently being circulated; be it within the borders of Malaysia or Internationally.

    One of the predominant characteristic of being a cina is elevating oneself to the level of being super-intelligent. Everyone else is inferior thus there is a need to portray this “intelligence” by creating “physical demonstration” to prove a point. Bersih4.0 is a good example. The full-blown entourage with the china ambassador roaming the sacred area is another good piece of example.

    UMNO proxy has done a well co-ordinated counter-attack for the Bersih4.0 event. The playing field has been level in this area. The risk-assessment has been done well with issues pertinent to the Melayu is being published openly for debate. The organizer of the Merah Rally might not be aware of this. Academically speaking they have provided an “intervention tool” that should there be a follow-up done could skewed the history of our nation.

    The most talked about and revered topic amongst the cina is the presence of the super-power in this tumultuous race-relation period in Malaysia. The online media is abuzz with excitement from the cina community. I believed this community felt very secure with the knowledge that their fate would always be a priority with PRC government. They should not have any fear of the Melayu who is not only economically crippled but would never be in the same league of their super-intelligent self. Right?

    How wrong could this be. UMNO could now turn the table around. US as a country with alliances and intelligence that penetrate all over the globe is watching every statement and movement. It would be much more safer for the US to bet their money and loyalty with a group of Melayu Marhaen whom would gave their all to protect their Islam, dignity and tanahair. On the other hand, cina community has send a strong signal that they would not hesitate to revolt at every corner should they be challenged by sending SOS to their motherland. Should US be investing and providing support to this community?

    Australia, with their direct allegiance to US would also not hesitate to support the Melayu Marhaen once they received the cue.

    The Middle East countries is now smacked in their own predicament of war. However, there are also countries example Saudi Arabia whom would not be in hesitation to support the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama’ah world wide and the Melayu Marhaen is the exact epitome of this Jama’ah.

    UMNO must position itself in the most strategic position to fully utilize the racist remarks that has been bestowed on the organization. If this slogan could propel the organization to leap forward as a winner in the PRU14 than it is worth the struggle for them.

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    • 80. mohd Salim  |  September 28, 2015 at 1:19 pm

      So true. In realpolitik terms, who do you think the US would rather back? This is a great opportunity because the sneaky Chinese have just played their hand.

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      • 81. Platea480  |  September 29, 2015 at 8:47 am

        And how about the US’s unwavering support for Israel?

        That also you dunno, ah?

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    • 82. Platea480  |  September 29, 2015 at 1:24 pm

      Btw, there are plenty of Asian-Americans in the US who are ethnic Chinese. Quite an effective lobby for China, don’t you think?

      Plus the US allows dual citizenship.

      Why would the US want to back “Melayu Marhaen” when they see militant Islam as one of their greatest security threats?

      Unless these same Melayu Marhaen espouse “moderate” Islam that allows full freedom of religion, as the US sees it?

      Do you think that’s going to happen in Malaysia.

      If you understand global realpolitik, the US and China will “cut a deal” that will take care of their respective national interests. The rest of the region will just have to deal with the fait accompli.

      I doubt that Umno has the forward-looking strategists who understand such realities.

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      • 83. islam1st  |  September 30, 2015 at 6:35 pm

        ‘I doubt that Umno has the forward-looking strategists who understand such realities.’

        Ya lor, Malays what? Must be stupid one! Ony Cina can lead the country to greater height, kan?

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  • 84. the punisher  |  September 28, 2015 at 2:50 pm

    Helen….orang Melayu bukan rasis, saya kawan dengan semua bangsa…saya dulu duduk di taman, jiran sebelah saya china, india dan sy ada kawan sekolah berketurunan sikh.. dan saya juga ada kawan di sabah dan sarawak dan orang asli…tak ada masalah pun…boleh duduk semeja bersama…orang Melayu boleh toleran..tapi ingat ya,…jangan buat kami sampai ke dinding dan jangan melampaui batas…

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    • 85. Helen Ang  |  September 28, 2015 at 3:06 pm

      re: “jangan buat kami sampai ke dinding dan jangan melampaui batas…”

      Ada baik diperjelaskan ‘SIAPA’ itu yang buat orang Melayu sampai ke dinding dan siapa yang melampaui batas, bukan gitu? Kalau tidak, nanti angkara seekor kerbau, satu kandang pula terpalit lumpur.

      Reply
  • 86. wanb  |  September 29, 2015 at 9:55 am

    https://shuzheng.wordpress.com/2015/09/29/red-shirts-china-dennis-the-menace/ – interesting last para

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    • 87. islam1st  |  September 30, 2015 at 3:22 am

      Comment not approved.

      [That vicious man is speculating about bloodshed. Kita udah ikut rentak atau layan dia. – Helen]

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      • 88. islam1st  |  September 30, 2015 at 6:34 pm

        Haiya Helen, the rest of the komen ok what? Ony last ayat i ulang tanya kesahihan tuduhan Shuzeng jelmaan China citizen yang Huang cakap tu. kut ya pun komen yang lain tu legit. Tak ke?

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        • 89. Helen Ang  |  September 30, 2015 at 7:35 pm

          Tak yah lah ikut rentak si dia yang tuduh melulu tu.

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