10 questions for Umno

October 1, 2015 at 12:29 pm 30 comments

Najib Razak, in his speech titled ‘Countering and preventing the spread of violent extremism’ at a UN leaders’ summit (prelude to the UN general assembly debate), spoke two days ago about Malaysia’s determination to counter Muslim terrorists on the international front.

I shall mirror the PM’s speech – full text reproduced at bottom of page – to ask whether Umno is committed to battling Christian militants on our domestic front. The phrases I borrowed from Najib are rendered within quotation marks.

Questions for Umno

1. Is Umno even the least interested in “spearheading and galvanizing” the Malays to combat DAP which Jabatan Agama Islam Pahang and a substantial number of other religious figures believe to be anti-Islam?

2. Is Umno taking the evangelical party DAP “very seriously indeed” atau masih lagi bersikap paling tidak apa?

3. Will Umno give those evangelistas in DAP “a clear choice” ultimatum? – “Renounce your virulent creed” (of hate and extremism) and “be guided back towards the righteous path, or face the consequences”.

4. Will the Umno-led government “strengthen the administrative and operational capacities of the relevant law enforcement authorities” to deal with the rapid radicalisation of DAP evangelistas?

5. Will Umno prevent the Dapsters from inflicting “their barbarity” on Malaysians who do not support the DAP and in the process ruining whatever racial goodwill that’s left between the various ethnic communities?

6. It is known that DAP “has harnessed a highly effective approach to communications and messaging. The so-called online terrorists have been deployed to devastating effect, inspiring too many of the impressionable, the vulnerable and the excluded to join their ranks” in Jerusubang.

Will Umno work with “police and cyber security to deal with this insidious threat” from the Dapster-evangelistas?

7. Presumably Umno has by now realised that a “focused attempt to counter the narrative and online presence of [DAP] is required”. Is Umno addressing this severe lack of “an overarching programme” to fight the Dapster-evangelistas?

8. What can Umno do to shore up any “important bulwark at the forefront of [nation]wide efforts” that can block the DAP messaging from being amplified?

9. Umno is fully aware “the lies that [DAP] employs are insidious”. Is Umno able to help the Malay ground be aware that “humbleness, compassion and love for our fellow man … are noble virtues that [DAP evangelistas] and their fellow extremists are lack totally”.

10. Is Umno ever going to do anything about the Nest of Evangelistas?


Scissors

Gunting dalam Lipatan snips again

MCA and Gerakan finally stepped up to condemn the DAP for serving as inspiration and model for the Bersih 4.0 bad behaviour.

Utusan splashed the story today – above.

The J-Star has predictably buried it. The only coverage that the joint MCA-Gerakan press conference got in EvangeliSTAR Online was a short note yesterday accompanying a video embed – see below. There’s no coverage of the story today.

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Below are the J-Star‘s top stories currently.

Top stories Star Oct 1

The listing of J-Star news stories today – here (page 1, page 2, page 3 & page 4) – does not contain any article on the condemnation by MCA and Gerakan of the DAP vis-a-vis the behaviour at Bersih 4.0.

Sudah terang lagi bersuluh. It should now be beyond any shadow of a doubt that the Scissorati are stabbing a lethal gunting in the BN’s back.


Najib war

BELOW: Full text of Najib’s speech

More details at ‘84% J-Star readers “annoyed”, “amused” with Najib’s speech at UN summit

Mr Chairman,
Excellencies,
Ladies and gentlemen,
  1. I join earlier speakers in expressing my appreciation to President Obama for spearheading and galvanising the international community’s campaign to combat and ultimately eradicate – Insh’Allah – the spread of the so-called Islamic State.
  1. We must give those in IS a clear choice. Renounce your virulent creed of hate, violence and extremism and be guided back towards the righteous path, or face the consequences.
  1. Malaysia completely and unequivocally rejects any attempt to associate the wicked crimes they perpetrate with Islam.
  1. We condemn their blatant misrepresentation of the Deen when they say that their sadistic brutality, torture and murder of innocent men, women and children – Muslims and non-Muslims alike – is justified in the name of a religion that is truly one of peace, justice, tolerance and compassion.
  1. My region – Southeast Asia – has not been spared this threat, and to counter this we have taken proactive steps, both nationally and within the framework of ASEAN, the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.
  1. As Chair of ASEAN this year, Malaysia will be hosting two key ministerial-level meetings on transnational crime, and on the rise of radicalisation and violent extremism, in Kuala Lumpur over the next few days.
  1. Later this year, ASEAN Heads of State and Government will also deliberate on these issues. Let me assure everyone present that we take them very seriously indeed.
  1. At the national level, we have strengthened the legal framework by updating and, where necessary, enacting new legislation. We have also undertaken measures to strengthen the administrative and operational capacities of the relevant law enforcement authorities. We must make pre-emptive arrests if necessary, and if there is irrefutable evidence, to save innocent lives.
  1. Because we have fortunately not suffered a major terrorist outrage in Malaysia, some appear to believe that we are not afflicted by this scourge. Nothing could be further from the truth. The work done by the relevant authorities is largely unsung, for reasons of security.
  1. But our counter-terrorism forces have been unceasing in their attempts to identify extremists who wish to travel to the Middle East via Malaysia – and stopped many from ruining their lives and the lives of others. They have also arrested over 100 suspected of links with IS. There are those who wish to bring their barbarity and bombings to Malaysia. We will not let them.
  1. These successes would not have been possible without close collaboration at the international level, and we will continue to deepen our cooperation with like minded nations, sharing timely intelligence, working with relevant military, police and cyber security to deal with this insidious threat.
  1. However, these efforts are only part of what is necessary. IS has harnessed a highly effective approach to communications and messaging. The so-called online terrorists have been deployed to devastating effect, inspiring too many of the impressionable, the vulnerable and the excluded to join their ranks.
  1. A focused attempt to counter the narrative and online presence of IS is required. Southeast Asia currently lacks an overarching programme to do this, so we must address this and efforts are underway.
  1. I believe that with the necessary support and participation, this could become an important bulwark at the forefront of region-wide efforts to amplify anti-IS messaging.
  1. This work could not be more important. For the lies that IS employs are insidious. For instance, they claim that it is their duty to destroy historical sites, because the Prophet Muhammad destroyed the idols that had been introduced into the Ka`ba in Mecca.
  1. This is based on a false analogy. The Ka`ba was built by the Prophet Ibrahim for the worship of the One True God, and later generations added the idols. The Prophet Muhammad was commanded to purify the Ka`ba of these idols for its use by his followers, to bring it back to its original form.
  1. The historical sites being destroyed by ISIS were never used for the worship of the One God and then later desecrated; so the argument for destroying them does not and cannot apply. Moreover, God informs us that these sites we travel by, and which denote past civilizations — some of which were global superpowers of their time, but are now no more — are signs to remind us not to be arrogant, but to walk the earth humbly.
  1. Moderation, or “wasatiyyah” in Islam, and its associated values such as humbleness, compassion and love for our fellow man – these are noble virtues that IS and their fellow extremists are lack totally. Retelling the narrative of the true Islam that elevates these virtues is as vital in countering extremism as putting a stop to the barbarities that these misguided people perpetrate.
  1. Let me say again: Malaysia stands with all present today to redouble these efforts. We will not allow imposters to besmirch the name of a religion which, in its true form – if interpreted correctly – is a light to mankind.
Thank you.
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  • 1. Platea480  |  October 1, 2015 at 1:15 pm

    As long as the US & the West are focused on fighting ISIS/ISIL/Daesh, your fond hopes will be a “non-starter”!

    Accept the reality – Christian “evangelistas” are not a significant issue in the global scheme of things. Neither are they on the radar of major intelligence and security agencies.

    It’s only in Malaysia, it seems, that certain people whip themselves into a froth of foaming frenzy and angst about “Christian evangelistas”, while the rest of the region and the world has a collective yawn.

    Anyway, how would the government’s BFFs in the US and elsewhere react to a campaign to “demonise” Christian evangelistas?

    Sorry, Helen – it’s Islamic/Muslim terrorism that has been clearly labelled as a “global threat”.

    So, instead of haranguing the PM and Umno, you might want to direct your rhetoric at the Western media, Al Jazeera etc.

    Let’s see how much “mileage” your views can clock up.

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    • 2. Helen Ang  |  October 1, 2015 at 2:20 pm

      re: “Anyway, how would the government’s BFFs in the US and elsewhere react to a campaign to ‘demonise’ Christian evangelistas?”

      Depends on whether Malaysia is more BFF with Uncle Sam or China.

      On the one hand, there was the PM’s golf game with Potus, and on the other we have Xing Xing and Liang Liang and their panda cub in our zoo, and Nor Ashman Najib has a Chinese version of his name.

      The rubble of hundreds of demolished churches and the thousands of missing crosses from the rooftops in China and the arrests of Christian activists are evidence of the country’s hardline policy on evangelistas.

      Evangelistas are considered as subversive and anti-Chinese.

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      • 3. Platea480  |  October 1, 2015 at 3:41 pm

        Yes, but is that stopping the spread of evangelical Christianity in China? Demolished churches, missing crosses and the arrest of (Chinese) Christian activists notwithstanding?

        It is interesting that you seem to be waxing gleeful about the anti-Christian “pogrom” in China.

        While complaining about what the Chinese Ambassador in Malaysia did recently in KL.

        Which “face” of the Chinese government are you supporting? The “crackdown on Christian evangelistas” face or the “Huaqiao and Huaren” face?

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        • 4. Helen Ang  |  October 1, 2015 at 3:46 pm

          re: “While complaining about what the Chinese Ambassador in Malaysia did recently in KL.”

          Can you cite the sentences where you claim that I (allegedly) complained about the ambassador’s actions?

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          • 5. Platea480  |  October 1, 2015 at 5:03 pm

            “Ambassadors don’t do this kind of thing”, for starters? Didn’t you start a thread with that title?

            I suppose the words were plucked out of thin air?

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            • 6. Helen Ang  |  October 1, 2015 at 5:11 pm

              The words were a direct quote “plucked” from Wong Chin Huat’s interview with Asia Sentinel. I was reporting Wong’s position since he is a fellow with Guan Eng’s state think-tank.

              Try again, Platea480.

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              • 7. The Kineas  |  October 1, 2015 at 9:51 pm

                Too clever by half, Helen?

                If you were trying to show up Wong Chin Huat, you could have titled your post differently.

                Why mention “Ambassadors”?

                But that’s the typical modus operandi for you, isn’t it? When cornered and put on the spot, you try to wiggle out by giving all sorts of extemporaneous excuses.

                How pathetic is that?

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                • 8. Helen Ang  |  October 1, 2015 at 10:00 pm

                  You’re the wriggler.

                  Earlier you were ‘Platea480’. Now you’ve wriggled into ‘The Kineas’. Lulz.

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                  • 9. Platea480  |  October 2, 2015 at 6:45 am

                    “wiggle”, not “wriggle”…there’s a difference if you aren’t up to speed with your English vocabulary….hahaha.

                    #Platea480, #Kineas – the references to Greek history are purely coincidental….lol.

                    And your point is…..?

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        • 10. Helen Ang  |  October 1, 2015 at 3:55 pm

          re: “It is interesting that you seem to be waxing gleeful about the anti-Christian ‘pogrom’ in China.”

          The word ‘pogrom’ means massacre, slaughter, mass murder, annihilation, extermination, decimation, carnage, bloodbath, bloodletting, butchery, genocide, etc.

          Please point me to any news report relating to the purported slaughter or bloodbath of evangelical Christians in China that you’re accusing took place.

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          • 11. Platea480  |  October 1, 2015 at 5:07 pm

            Well, “pogrom” can also mean “a systematic and selective process of abuse and targetted and selective persecution”.

            By your accounts, isn’t that what’s happening in China to evangelical Christian churches and Uighurs?

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            • 12. Helen Ang  |  October 1, 2015 at 5:22 pm

              Okay, thanks for clarifying what you meant by ‘pogrom’.

              I can agree that the action by the Chinese authorities are ‘systematic’, ‘selective’ and ‘targetted’.

              As to whether they amount to ‘persecution’ is debatable.

              What’s clear – whether you’re looking at it from communist or Christian eyes – is that the demolitions and arrests are a very serious course of action to take.

              Since it is such a serious thing to do, I’m interpreting that the Chinese authorities feel that their country is under serious threat. If so, I am in full agreement with Beijing, Zhejiang and several other Chinese provinces with a sizeable Christian minority wrt the seriousness of the threat.

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              • 13. The Kineas  |  October 1, 2015 at 9:48 pm

                What about the Uighurs, the majority of whom just happen to be Muslims?

                Is that a “sensitive” topic to be avoided, while you “gleefully” seize upon what the Chinese authorities are trying to do to the evangelical Christian churches in China?

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                • 14. Helen Ang  |  October 1, 2015 at 10:01 pm

                  Please provide us a link (news report) that says any mosque in Xinjiang has been demolished or crescent removed from minarets.

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                  • 15. Platea480  |  October 2, 2015 at 6:42 am

                    Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle….

                    Why is there an exodus of Uighurs from Xinjiang?

                    Are you denying that the Uighur minority in China being discriminated against?

                    Why were there protests from the Turkish government when Thailand repatriated some Uighurs back from Thailand to China?

                    What about the Chinese authorities banning the use of the hijab and burqua by the Uighurs?

                    There are plenty of ways to discriminate against a minority without physically targetting their places of worship.

                    Or are you denying this also?

                    Like I wrote – wiggle, wiggle, wiggle…..

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                    • 16. Helen Ang  |  October 2, 2015 at 9:35 am

                      Like you wrote “wiggle, wiggle, wiggle” from Platea480 to The Kineas to writing under other wiggly monikers.

                      re: “There are plenty of ways to discriminate against a minority without physically targetting their places of worship. Or are you denying this also?”

                      Try harder. I’m not the sort to live in denial like you lot. See my post two days ago ‘China knows what she is doing‘. I wrote:

                      “As a communist country, China is wary of religions. It suppresses the Muslim Uighurs in Xinjiang and the Buddhists in Tibet. But China’s biggest fear by far is the Christian evangelists in its own densely populated and advanced coastal cities.”

                    • 17. Platea480  |  October 2, 2015 at 1:33 pm

                      Where and when has China expressly and unequivocally stated that it’s “biggest fear by far is the Christian evangelistas in its own densely populated and advanced coastal cities”?

                      Can you provide the relevant links or references?

                    • 18. Helen Ang  |  October 2, 2015 at 1:52 pm

                      Uncle Sam expressly and unequivocally stated that the reason for the US of A invading Iraq was Saddam Hussein’s WMDs. How very evangelista of the White House.

                      The China ambassador-to-Malaysia’s visit to KL Chinatown upset a lot of quarters, right?

                      Whether His Excellency expressly and unequivocally stated the reason for his visit (or whether he did not), would the grievance/agitation on the part of Malaysians be allayed by his words, i.e. whatever he said as opposed to his actual action, i.e. venue/location, timing of his visit.

                      On the religion front, is China’s “biggest fear by far is the Christian evangelistas” compared to the Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang and the Buddhists in Tibet? You bet.

                      Rather than asking me to provide Beijing’s express and unequivocal statement on why the churches have been demolished, why not look at the results. Have mosques been demolished in Xinjiang? Have monasteries been demolished in Tibet?

                      Has Xi Jinping ever expressly and unequivocally stated any fear of Buddhist philosophy?

                    • 19. Platea480  |  October 2, 2015 at 3:47 pm

                      You are evading the point, Helen. Like in wiggle, wiggle, wiggle….

                      Are you now claiming that there’s no documented reports of the Chinese government explicitly saying that it is targetting Christian evangelistas and their houses of worship in China?

                      Whereas Chinese officials have made several unfavourable remarks about the Uighurs.

                      So, which is the Chinese government’s biggest fear – Christian evangelistas, “contagion” from the freedom movement in Hong Kong or Islamic militants/terrorists?

                      Or are they paranoid about all three?

                    • 20. Helen Ang  |  October 2, 2015 at 4:31 pm

                      You are the archetypal Mr Wiggle Wiggle. I’m sure regular readers like islam1st can figure out which moniker you wriggle from – from one (Platea480) to the next (Kineas) to the next.

                      re: “… there’s no documented reports of the Chinese government explicitly saying that it is targetting Christian evangelistas and their houses of worship in China?”

                      Right, genius. You expect Beijing put in black and white, and stamp with its official seal, the reason why hundreds of churches have been demolished.

                      re: “So, which is the Chinese government’s biggest fear – Christian evangelistas, ‘contagion’ from the freedom movement in Hong Kong or Islamic militants/terrorists?”

                      Hong Kong’s Umbrella Revolution was led by Christian evangelistas too.

                      re: “Or are they paranoid about all three?”

                      Paranoia is something irrational. Fear of the evangelical movement is logical and reasonable.

                    • 21. Platea480  |  October 2, 2015 at 5:12 pm

                      #islam1st? Pfft….he has been reduced into stuttering incoherence.

                      Has the targetting of evangelical Christians in China deterred the growth of the evangelical churches and and put a halt to the numbers of Christians there?

                      Statistics to support that, if you please.

                    • 22. Helen Ang  |  October 2, 2015 at 5:20 pm

                      re: “Has the targetting of evangelical Christians in China deterred the growth of the evangelical churches and and put a halt to the numbers of Christians there?”

                      China recognizes the problem. Malaysia is still clueless.

    • 24. danontheroad  |  October 1, 2015 at 2:32 pm

      ISIS & Muslim fundamentalists are undeniably a serious threat even to Malaysia and we should thank PDRM’s counter-terrorism and intelligence units in apprehending these terrorists before they could even think about striking our nation.

      But this does not negate the fact that there are minorities here in Malaysia who are incendiary in nature and you really need to understand propaganda to see how sneaky they are, like what Ms Helen has been pointing out so far.

      If you still feel that “evangelistas” are not a threat, I’d recommend you two to read:

      1. Ms Helen’s previous posting on the rise of evangelism in China that is spooking out their government

      2. The Israel Lobby & US Foreign Policy by Mearsheimer & Walt with regards to the powerful backing of Christian Zionists to the preservation of the state of Israel.

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    • 25. RINA  |  October 1, 2015 at 4:59 pm

      Platea480
      …… it’s Islamic/Muslim terrorism that has been clearly labelled as a “global threat”…… Bush and Blair apa kurangnya, some may consider them “bapa kepada segala terrorist”.

      What is happening is nothing new kalau rajin baca sejarah. Terrorist or whatever names pi mai pi mai tang tu la…

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

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      • 26. Platea480  |  October 2, 2015 at 6:50 am

        So – are you saying that what ISIS has done/is doing is acceptable and 100% in accordance with the principles and teachings of Islam?

        Answer that straight up, without any obfuscating or “wiggling”.

        And are you saying that the Malaysian government is wrong in identifying ISIS as an existential threat?

        And that the PM was wrong when he spoke about combating ISIS in his speech at the UN General Assembly?

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        • 27. RINA  |  October 2, 2015 at 8:54 pm

          Platea480
          Wriggle wriggling what is the difference between Bush and Blair and ISIS? What Israel is doing to the Palestinians

          These are all acts of extremists

          Same same la..

          itu pun you cannot figure out?

          Reply
  • 28. multi-faceted corruption  |  October 1, 2015 at 3:43 pm

    ISIS says its mission is to wipe out corruption in the land, but it is itself morally corrupted. While Najib’s extensive corruption itself threatens the well-being of this land.

    Reply
  • 29. amir yusof  |  October 1, 2015 at 5:27 pm

    ???

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/going-after-the-islamic-state/5401439

    Reply
  • 30. Orangkampung  |  October 1, 2015 at 10:49 pm

    I love questionnaires and quizes so let me try to answer the 10 Qs for Umno.

    1. No, let’s leave Dap to MCA & Gerakan. Nanti Umno kena tuduh racists, hilang semua undi bukan melayu.
    2. Tak apa
    3. Huh? Don’t understand the big words.
    4. Yes to the first part, the Dap part wait and see
    5. No lah cannot do that. Umno ni daridulu bertolak ansur. Dap dah tolak Umno kena ansur la
    6. Of course. The police will investigate and recommend further action. Full stop.
    7. Umno is trying, you know. Tapi susah sikit, can’t even get positive news on PM on front page of any search engine.
    8. Susah lah soalan ni. Kita dah tukar internet minister berapa kali dah tapi semuanya macam buntu saja bab ni.
    9. Yes to the first Q. Second part, pass.
    10. No.

    Reply

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