Saya dah cakap lama dah DAP anti-Islam, kata Nasharudin

October 29, 2015 at 1:46 pm 37 comments

Dan Ustaz Nasha memang cakap betul.

Hannah Dont say I am Muslim

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Lagi munafik pula tu

“Pada hari ini, telah jelas terbukti bagaimana secara terbuka DAP menyerang kepimpinan PAS dan presiden. Bagi mereka bukan hanya sekadar anti-PAS, mereka juga anti-Islam,” kata bekas Timbalan Presiden PAS, Nasharudin Mat Isa seperti dilapor Sinar Harian pada 14 Jun 2015.

Mufti Pahang: Orang DAP “terang-terang menentang Islam”

Mufti Pahang Abdul Rahman Osman melahirkan rasa terkilannya terhadap Melayu DAP yang mengancam untuk menyaman JAIP berhubung dengan teks khutbah Aidiladha lalu – baca ‘Mufti Pahang terkilan dengan orang Islam dalam DAP‘ (Ismaweb, 29 Sep 2015)

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Cepat juga balasan yang diterima

Tengku Zulpuri tewas jawatan pengerusi DAP Pahang‘ (AIDC News, 28 Okt 2015)

Adun DAP Tanah Rata Leong Ngah Ngah baru saja dipilih sebagai pengerusi DAP Pahang untuk sesi 2015/2017.

Tengku Zulpuri yang menyandang jawatan pengerusi pada sesi 2013/2015 hanya mampu menduduki tempat tercorot dalam pemilihan parti beberapa hari lepas.

“Tengku Zulpuri nyaris tewas apabila beliau tersenarai sebagai 15 calon terakhir selepas memperoleh 109 undi berbanding dengan Leong yang mendapat 158 undi,” lapor AIDC.

DAP kafir supporters Occupy Masjid

Para pelatih Hannah Yeoh

Gerakan DAP untuk Occupy Masjid

Politikus evangelis DAP yang berupa sesumpah begitu pandai bermuka-muka.

Dah lah hari-hari pakai tudung dan nampak ghairah sekali naik turun masjid. Maka tidak hairan pun jika ada di kalangan awam yang menyangka Hannah Yeoh sudah masuk Islam.

Namun diugutnya barang siapa yang mendakwa Puan Speaker memeluk Islam akan dikenakan laporan polis oleh Adun Jerusubang tersebut, mengikut laporan ‘Hannah Yeoh nafi peluk Islam‘ (Sinar Harian, 11 Julai 2014).

Hannah Yeoh pergi ke masjid untuk ma

Hannah Yeoh pergi ke masjid untuk makan

Masih belum terang atau bersuluh

Rani Kulop dakwa jerebu hilang berkat laporan polisnya‘ (FMT, 28 Okt 2015)

Orang Melayu Islam juga ibarat sering diselubungi jerebu. Penglihatan mereka dikaburi tipu helah DAP yang pura-pura mesra Islam.

Ramai yang tidak sedar akan agenda gelap DAP. Ini kerana evangelista DAP begitu licik menanam tebu di tepi bibir.

Yang peliknya bukan Rani Kulup yang buat laporan polis atas DAP tetapi DAP pula yang mahu buat laporan polis atas Ustaz Nasha.

Dunia terbalik – si evangelista adalah pemangsa buas yang berlagak seolah-olah ia adalah mangsa kerdil yang ditindas Umno dan dianiaya PAS.

Rani Kulup jerebu

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  • 1. shamshul anuar  |  October 29, 2015 at 2:06 pm

    Helen,

    Though I agree with Nasharuddin statement, I must say that he too has a part in making PAS an ally of DAP.

    In interview after 2008, he proudly told that he(representing PAS) went on discussion with UMNO to form the Selangor state government while at the same time working quietly with PKR and DAP to form a government.

    he said openly he did that to give impression to UMNO that PAS actually did not mind forming a government with UMNO. Hatred towards UMNO like almost all PAS members blinded him too of the danger sleeping with DAP.

    The only difference between Nasharuddin and other PAS leaders is that he paid the price much earlier. that is all. Hadi on the other hand only realised the cruelty of DAP only this year.

    I mean no disrespect to Nasharuddin. But what he said about DAP was not surprising. My father when he was alive already warned me the danger of DAP.

    Back then I only listened but not really bothered. Over the years I begin to appreciate the advice.

    Still i am happy PAS “dah sedar”. Better late than never.

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    • 2. tebing tinggi  |  October 29, 2015 at 6:03 pm

      It’s to early to say PAS dah sedar ,those who are observant enough could not forget how PAS has sold out religion for political advantage .

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  • 3. Qalam Qabut  |  October 29, 2015 at 2:39 pm

    Helen, boleh tolong jelaskan kepada saya kenapa DAP bermaki-makian menentang hukum hudud. Anggota orang DAP banyak nak kena dipotong ke kalau hudud dilaksanakan di Malaysia (ataupun Kelantan)?

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    • 4. Helen Ang  |  October 29, 2015 at 2:54 pm

      Tarbiyah Puan Speaker yang bertudung asyik duduk masjid itu belum berjalan lagi di kalangan rakan-rakan partinya.

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    • 5. Burung Kakak Tua  |  October 29, 2015 at 4:14 pm

      Business arak, judi, dan wanita (GRO , rumah urut, pelacur dsbnya) tenat jika hukum hudud di laksanakan. Penyumbang2 dana DAP kebanyakan dari towkay golongan tersebut.

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    • 6. Shamshul anuar  |  October 29, 2015 at 4:32 pm

      Qalam Qabut,

      DAP has managed to convince the Chinese that any alliance with UMNO Is deemed as submitting to Malays. There is no denying that UMNO reigns supreme in BN. The reason is expected and not surprising actually. UMNO just manages to earn the lion share of Malay votes. and Malays happen to be the largest racial group in Malaysia.

      As such DAP has drummed into Chinese mind it is more profitable to vote PR where DAP is the supremo.

      As for hudud, in all sincerity I believe Malays are not totally blameless. many Malays behave as if they are not afraid of God’s punishment. So, this give bad image to non Muslims.

      Hudud from my observation is just a tool for PAS for votes. Let s be real here. Have any one of us attended intellectual discussion with any PAS leaders on Hudud. They too are “vague” when it comes to Hudud.

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    • 7. drinho  |  October 29, 2015 at 6:41 pm

      Apa yang nak dihairankan? DAP bukan orang Islam. Sama juga dengan parti komponen BN yang lain seperti MCA, Gerakan dan parti Sabah/Sarawak. Hampir semua parti politik bukan Islam/Melayu menentang hudud.

      Yang lebih menghairankan adalah orang Islam sendiri menolak hudud. Umno sejak merdeka sehingga 2008 mempunyai majoriti 2/3 di Parlimen dan menjadi MB di semua negeri kecuali PP, Sarawak dan Kelantan. Langsung tidak ada usaha melaksanakan hudud sama ada di peringkat negeri atau negara. Usaha PAS di Kelantan pada 1993 untuk melaksanakan hudud ditentang Umno. Rang UU PAS di Kelantan tahun ini walaupun sudah diluluskan di DUN masih tiada sebarang perkembangan di Parlimen.

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      • 8. Keris  |  October 29, 2015 at 9:22 pm

        Ketiadaan budaya ilmu yang bersepadu dalam tamadun hari ini telah mengakibatkan peluasan bencana “kehilangan adab”. Kebiadaban ini telah melahirkan banyak kerosakan dalam pemikiran dan akhlak manusia serta alam tabii.

        Dalam pemikiran dan akhlak:
        1) kejahilan atau kebebalan dan kemalasan intelektual dikaitkan (sebagai alasan) dengan pengkhususan ilmu;
        2) kedayusan moral disebut sebagai toleransi dan kesederhanaan;
        3) pembaziran dimaknakan dengan rekreasi atau mempertahankan kedudukan;
        4) korupsi akhlak dan ekonomi atau kedua-duanya sekali dimaafkan sebagai lumrah kehidupan moden;
        5) dan penjahanaman alam sekitar disebut sebagai harga tabii kemajuan.

        – Prof. Wan Mohd. Nor Wan Daud
        (Centre for Advanced Studies in Islam, Science and Civilization, UTM)

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      • 9. shamshul Anuar  |  October 30, 2015 at 2:06 am

        Dri nho,

        ‘…orang Islam menolak Hudud…”

        Menolak Hudud atau menolak PAS? Ketaatan mutlak hanya pada Allah SWT dan Rasul. Orang melayu rata rata tak tolak Hudud. Cuma ramai tak percaya PAS.

        Saya pun tak percaya PAS. Bukan menolak Islam.

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        • 10. drinho  |  October 30, 2015 at 9:40 am

          Dalam Rang UU Hudud yang dikemukakan PAS, seksyen mana yang tidak menepati rukun hudud Islam? Setahu saya, tiada. Sebab itu Adun Umno di Dun Kelantan turut menyokong Rang tersebut. Cuma sekarang perkara ini tergantung di Parlimen. Kalau BN sanggup bersidang sehingga awal pagi untuk meluluskan undang2 tertentu seperti Sosma, mengapa tiada kesungguhan yang sama untuk melaksanakan hudud?

          Kalau Umno ikhlas dalam menegakkan hukum Allah, dari awal-awal lagi hudud sudah dilaksanakan di Msia. Tak payah tunggu PAS. Umno sendiri akan kemukakan rang undang2 untuk dibahas dan diluluskan. Bukan prejudis, tetapi setelah menilai semua tingkah laku Umno amat jelas Umno tiada niat untuk melaksanakan hudud.

          Sokongan di DUN Kelantan adalah wayang sahaja kerana penentu adalah di Parlimen. Apa guna melaungkan retorik ‘sokong hudud’ tetapi tidak direalisasikan melalui tindakan? Talk is cheap.

          Kesimpulan, Umno sememangnya menolak hudud.

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          • 11. Chris  |  October 30, 2015 at 12:26 pm

            Since your pas hudud will affect every Malaysian across the various races, I don’t think it is fair for you to restrict this controversial subject amongst Malay speakers only. Please convince us that your hudud is vastly different from the hudud which ISIS has put into deadly effect. Please do peruse the report below. Didn’t the PAS chiefs condemn Dr. Mahathir as a non-Muslim?

            http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-publishes-penal-code-listing-amputation-crucifixion-and-stoning-as-punishments-and-vows-to-9994878.html

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            • 12. HH  |  October 30, 2015 at 6:19 pm

              Chris

              Haha commentator drinho is hardly the right person you should be addressing your ..er.. hudud concerns. He/she was merely making a point regarding non-Muslims rejecting hudud to be expected and even Muslims (UMNO) are not too zealous.

              Why not pose your question to the hudud protagonists?

              Plenty around…

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            • 13. Keris  |  October 31, 2015 at 12:21 pm

              http://WWW.lettertobaghdadi.com

              Imam al-Haramayn, Al-Juwayni, (Al-Ghazali’s teacher) says in “Al-Burhan fi Usul Al-Fiqh”[Demonstrative Proofs in Principles of Jurisprudence]:

              “Regarding the qualities of a mufti and the disciplines that he must master: … it is imperative that the mufti must be a scholar of language, for the Shari’ah is in Arabic. … it is imperative that he be a scholar of syntax and (semantics) parsing … it is imperative that he be a scholar of the Qur’an, for the Qur’an is the basis of all rulings … Knowledge of textual abrogation is indispensable; and the science of the fundamentals of jurisprudence (usul ) is the cornerstone of the whole subject … He should also know the various degrees of proofs and arguments … as well as their histories. [He should also know] the science of Hadith so that he can distinguish the authentic from the weak; and the acceptable from the apocryphal … [He should also know] jurisprudence.… *Moreover, having ‘legal intuition’ (fiqh al-nafs) is needed: it is the capital of anyone who derives legal rulings … scholars have summarized all this by saying that a mufti is “someone who independently knows all the texts and arguments for legal rulings”. “Texts” refers to mastering language, Qura’nic exegesis and Hadith; while “arguments” indicates mastering legal theory, analogical reasoning of the various kinds, as well as “legal intuition” (fiqh al-nafs).
              Al-Ghazali has said similar things in Al-Mustasfa (vol. 1, p.342), as did Al-Suyuti in Al-Itqan fi Ulum Al-Qur’an (vol. 4, p.213).
              _______
              The PAS chiefs who authored their 1993 hudud bill have not demonstrated that that are of the intellectual calibre requisite for formulating such a major jurisprudential motion. Thus, despite the many challenges from several Islamic scholars of authority from various quarters, the PAS leadership have not been able to develop their original presumptions in their jurisprudential claims up to this day.

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          • 14. shamshul Anuar  |  October 30, 2015 at 4:02 pm

            Drinho,

            Jadi apa yg awak mahu UMNO buat?

            Jika tak sokong dituduh pula menolak Islam. Bila sokong dituduh pula main wayang.

            Dalam kepala otak awak cuma ada “hudud” saja kah? Tak ada perkara lain seperti bagaimana untuk tolong orang yg hadapi banjir. Bagaimana nak bersihkan Kota baru yg tak sebersih Kuching, sarawak atau Negeri Melaka?

            Bagaimana nak hadapi masalah dadah yg parah di Kelantan mengatasi negeri lain. Tak boleh luangkan masa sedikit pun pasal penduduk Kelantan yg tiada tanah sdelepas banjir.

            Talk is cheap. betul la. Sejak bila pAS nak kan Hudud ni. Kalau tengok perangai pemimpin PAS, ramai putar belit. Duku kata Hudud 0.00001% dari Islam. sekarang tyidak. Dulu kata haram undi bukan Mealyu. Kemudian dia sendiri menyembah DAP . akhir sekali kena terajang dengan DAP.

            PAS menyerang dan menyerang. Tak berhenti henti menyerang saudara cseugama. Kemudian tanya kenapa ye susah Hudud nak dilaksanakan.

            JIKA MAHUKAN HUDUD, maka carilah kerjasama dengan parti Melayu terbesar ini. Sebab UMNO ada 88 kerusi dalam parlimen.

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            • 15. drinho  |  November 2, 2015 at 2:02 pm

              Apa yang saya mahu Umno buat? Senang sahaja. Rujuk di bawah:-

              1. Segera minta mana-mana parti komponen BN yang menentang hudud dan menggunakan mahkamah untuk menghalang hudud untuk menarik kenyataan tersebut dan menarik kes.

              2. Bentang hudud di Parlimen melalui bil kerajaan. Sekarang ini, Hadi bentang melalui private member’s bill. Minta Speaker dahulukan giliran bil hudud di depan agenda untuk debat dan undi.

              3. Kalau bil hudud yang dibentang PAS ada mana-mana seksyen yang tidak mengikut hukum Islam, boleh pinda terus.

              4. Arahkan semua parti BN sokong bil hudud ini termasuk apa-apa pindaan perlembagaan yang memerlukan sokongan 2/3.

              Hakikatnya, PAS dari tahun 1993 ingin laksana hudud di Kelantan tapi dihalang Umno/BN. Sekarang halangan yang sama berlaku di peringkat Parlimen. PAS sudah buat apa yang terdaya. Bentang dan lulus di Dun Kelantan dan keluar daripada Pakatan Rakyat. Sekarang PAS nak bentang di Parlimen tetapi Speaker Umno yang tidak memberi keutamaan.

              The ball is in BN/Umno’s court. Not PAS.

              PS:- Sila baca prosedur mengubal undang-undang di Malaysia. Awak akan sedar yang menangguhkan pelaksanaan hudud adalah Umno/BN dan bukannya PAS.

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              • 16. marigold  |  November 2, 2015 at 9:58 pm

                drinho, mu duk gatal nak sangat kecek-kecek saje. Cuba mu keluarkan hujjah usul fikah sikit tentang hudud jenis diorang itu.

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              • 17. Abdullah  |  November 3, 2015 at 5:26 am

                “Apakah niat PAS ketika mereka memperkenalkan undang-undang hudud ini? Bukan soal Islam. Ia mengenai soal bagaimana hendak menang pilihan raya. Bagaimana anda hendak memenangi pilihan raya? ‘Oh kita mesti menjadi lebih Islam daripada orang Umno’,” kata Dr Mahathir.

                Beliau berkata, Presiden PAS Datuk Seri Abdul Hadi Awang sebelum ini menyatakan parti Islam itu perlu “melambatkan” cadangan memperkenalkan hudud dan cita-cita mewujudkan negara Islam kerana rakan pakatan tidak menyukainya.

                “Jadi kamu berfikir tentang politik, kamu tidak berfikir tentang Islam. Kerana tujuan kamu, niat kamu adalah tentang politik, ia tidak lagi Islamik,” kata Dr Mahathir.

                – see more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/bahasa/article/hudud-pas-tidak-islamik-hanya-politik-kata-dr-mahathir#sthash.oyKEXkaX.dpuf

                Penceramah terkenal Ustaz Kazim Elias memberikan pendapatnya mengenai hukum hudud dan perlaksanaannya di Malaysia. Dakwaan yang menyatakan Tun Mahathir menolak hudud disanggah sama sekali oleh Ustaz Kazim dan ia mendakwa bahawa Tun Mahathir mohon kerajaan Kelantan (PAS) ketika itu untuk menyemak semula draf perlaksanaan hudud di Kelantan kerana baginya ianya terdapat beberapa kelemahan.

                Forum Perdana yang berlangsung di SMK Geting, Pengkalan Kubor, Kelantan dalam video dengan kehadiran sekitar 3000 orang peserta. Dua orang panel iaitu Ustaz Kazim bersama Dr. Asyraf Wajdi Dasuki membincangkan beberapa perkara mengenai hudud di Malaysia dan pengertian Assobiyah (budaya perkauman).

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          • 18. marigold  |  October 31, 2015 at 9:35 pm

            drinho, mu ni dahaga hukum menghukum syiok retorik sendiri kah? Kalau mu ni terpelajar sangat mu cuba jawab diorang. Atawapun kalau tak faham kecek Inggeris pun mu cuba guna Arab.

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    • 19. Keris  |  October 29, 2015 at 6:48 pm

      Adapun ramai manusia yang bukan beragama Islam tidak mengerti falsafah perundangan dalam fiqh Islamiyyah, iaitu yang disebut sebagai maqasid al-shariah. Bahkan bukan sedikit orang yang mengikut ajaran Islam itu jelas fahamannya tentang hal tersebut.

      TUJUAN UNDANG-UNDANG SYARIAT
      1. Membawa sebuah kehidupan yang baik dan sejahtera untuk semua.
      2. Membentuk individu dan masyarakat berdisiplin dan bertanggungjawab.
      3. Memupuk nilai kehidupan murni dan norma budaya luhur.
      4. Menjamin keadilan & kebaikan sejagat (al-a’dl wa al-ikhsan)
      5. Menyelamatkan manusia dari kesesatan melampaui batas ketamadunan.
      6. Melahirkan masyarakat yang mencinta kebaikan serta membenci kemungkaran.

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  • 20. Kineas1067  |  October 29, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    Anti-Islam?

    How, then, does Pak Nasharudin categorise the US and the anti-immigrant movements in Europe, the UK and Australia – all of whom have made clear their opposition to creeping “Islamicisation”, the defacto introduction of Shari’a laws and the increasingly strident assertiveness of Muslim immigrant and refugee communities in these countries?

    Or, closer to home, the attitude towards Islam and Muslims adopted by the governments of India, China and Russia?

    Pak N is apparently fond of “demonising” convenient targets while ignoring more blatant deliberate anti-Islam and anti-Muslim campaigns elsewhere.

    Par for the course, apparently.

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    • 21. Helen Ang  |  October 29, 2015 at 7:56 pm

      re: “creeping Islamicisation

      ‘Creeping’, as in movement by stealth? You must be referring to the DAP evangelistas in their faux Muslim attire and their fake behaviour reciting Quran and quoting Hadith, and their laying ambush to the mosques and surau to stir empty pots for photo ops.

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      • 22. Kineas1067  |  October 30, 2015 at 6:46 am

        No, I am referring to, among other things, ISIS’s use of social media to influence Malaysians to join their cause and wage jihad against infidels.

        Are you attempting to tar the “DAP evangelistas” with the same brush?

        It seems to me to be curiously one-track minded, what you are espousing. Maybe you have an agenda here.

        Is the West more concerned about “creeping Islamicisation” or “creeping Christian evangelisation”? Or countries in Asia, for that matter?

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        • 23. Helen Ang  |  October 30, 2015 at 8:11 am

          The evangelistas’ use of social media to influence Malaysians to join their cause and wage a crusade against Muslims?

          Let’s tick against the checklist.

          Item 1: Use of social media. Yup, they’re the champs in this dept. The Fat Lady of Jerusubang has 120,000 Twitter followers.

          Item 2: Influence Malaysians to join their cause. Yup, achieved 95 percent saturation already.

          Item 3: Wage a crusade against Muslims. Yup. Why do you think we’re having religious tensions today when in the past we only had to deal with racial tensions.

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          • 24. jentayu  |  October 30, 2015 at 8:51 am

            fellas like kineas loves to hype things like isis, jihadis, islamisation and anything regarding the word islam.

            truth be told, our government have been more merciful and lenient to evangelistas than islamist activists like Jemaah islamiah, al maunah, arqam and now isis.

            I would like to praise evangelistas though who appear more subtle and deceitful on their approach like masses brainwashing, playing the victim card and propaganda via various aid. they really learned from the past.

            but Chinese government have also learned from the past. which is why crackdown is executed even though there is no trace of violence by the lamb of god fellas.

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            • 25. Helen Ang  |  October 30, 2015 at 9:56 am

              re: “fellas like kineas loves to hype things like isis, jihadis, islamisation and anything regarding the word islam.”

              True. The evangelistas are in our midst. Jerusubang is not even far away from where we live.

              Kineas, on the other hand, chooses to talk about events happening in Syria. They’re not something that he himself is experiencing first hand unlike how we here subjected to the machinations of the sneaky bastards.

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              • 26. HH  |  October 30, 2015 at 11:12 am

                Commentator Kineas bringing up events unfolding in Syria is apt. Crackdowns on religion, though Christianity is singled out to be highlighted on this blog, by the Chinese authorities are world events brought up to be discussed and compared in the Malaysian context.

                We don’t live in China or Singapore either, but that has not deter certain comparisons to be made. So, what’s up with the proposed exclusion of Middleast into our discussion?

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                • 27. Kineas1067  |  October 30, 2015 at 2:43 pm

                  Easy…. Helen is fond of pleading the Fifth when she’s backed into a corner or when her views have been shown up to be self-serving and shallow.

                  She emotes about “Jerusbang”, but neglects to mention if the hyper-vigilant SB and counter-terrorism authorities have tagged it as a “clear and present danger”.

                  All the public utterances don’t seem to show this.

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                  • 28. Helen Ang  |  October 30, 2015 at 2:53 pm

                    Kineas is fond of building straw men when he’s found to have shifted the goalpost or when his views have been shown up to be Islamophobic.

                    He emotes about “ISIS”, but conveniently sidesteps that the evangelical churches, incl. Singapore’s City Harvest, are deemed a “clear and present danger” not because they’re considered terrorist outfits but because they pose a threat to public and societal order.

                    It took a full dozen years before even the super efficient S’pore authorities managed to send the City Harvest crooks to the slammer.

                    As for Malaysia’s hyper-vigilant SB, granted there have so far been no public utterances. M’sian authorities cut a lot of slack to Christian deviants compared to their Muslim counterparts, e.g. Ayah Pin’s Sky Kingdom commune that was demolished and the Al-Arqam sect that was squashed.

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                    • 29. Kineas1067  |  October 30, 2015 at 5:11 pm

                      “Islamophobic”? Really? Show me the “straw men” that I have allegedly constructed to support an “Islamophobic agenda”.

                      It’s funny that you have mentioned “evangelical churches” in Singapore.

                      A report in the Singapore Straits Times, October 28, 2015: “Church builds $50m arts hub in Bukit Merah”. The church is the Faith Community Baptist Church. “Costing about $50 million, the nine-storey building will house facilities similar to those in major performance venues such as the Esplanade…. Called Gateway Theatre, it will be rented out to arts groups on weekdays. Church services will take place on weekends…. The new building…is largely funded by church members, who have contributed more than $29.5 million to the project so far. Work started in April last year… Gateway Theatre will bring the arts to the western part of Singapore and give performing groups the option of staging shows at an affordable mid-size space…”

                      The same report noted: “In 2012, New Creation Church’s business arm, Rock Productions, opened the $500 million Star Performing Arts Centre in Buona Vista, with fund contributions from members. It has a 5,000-seat auditorium, which is also a venue for hire”.

                      It seems to be that the “megachurches” are doing ok in Singapore. Of course, this might be unpalatable to Helen, seeing as how she’s been going on and on about the CHC case.

                      Which is why the editorial “Preserving faith in the rule of law” in the Singapore Straits Times today (October 30, 2015) should be read and digested.

                      To quote from the editorial:

                      “The guilty verdict in the City Harvest Church case shows that financial wrongdoing in a religious setting is no different from a secular one. This is how it should be if Singapore is to remain a country where the rule of law takes its impartial course….

                      “… All institutions of public trust need to abide by the laws of the land and by common standards of probity in the management of charitable funds. It is up to the public authorities to ensure that this is the case, particularly if religious followers are likely to put blind faith in leaders and are not inclined to scrutinise accounts, unlike people who have a financial stake in a secular organisation…

                      “Reassuringly, it is because of Singapore’s earned reputation for intolerance of corruption that the CHC verdict is being received with the equanimity extended to legal judgements in general. No serious observer would question the investigation and trial as was the response when Buddhist monk Shi Ming Yi was convicted several years ago of misappropriating funds and falsifying accounts, and when Catholic priest Joachim Kang was jailed for misappropriating over $5 million in church funds.

                      “Religious followers of all faiths can take heart from the fact that religion has a precious and protected place in the laws of Singapore. Religious leaders, in turn, must uphold standards of law at their end…..indeed, its (the state’s) basic responsibility to ensure that the same yardstick – of what’s right and wrong in the use of charitable funds – applies to all citizens equally, irrespective of their religious or political standing”.

            • 30. Kineas1067  |  October 30, 2015 at 5:14 pm

              Hype or facts?

              ISIS is hype? Wahhabism is hype? The Shi’a-Sunni divide is hype? Anti-Christian mob violence in Pakistan and Indonesia is hype?

              Or facts, based on published reports?

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    • 31. I am Woman  |  October 29, 2015 at 8:19 pm

      Nasha is being pragmatic. How can he go up against, as you say Europe, UK and Australia, if we are unable to curb these sentiments in our own country? So it is only right that he should make a firm stand here and now.

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      • 32. Kineas1067  |  October 30, 2015 at 6:49 am

        Why can’t he “go up against” the countries you mentioned?

        Doesn’t he have the power of his faith to sustain him and guide him?

        Or is he being supremely pragmatic and realistic in not biting off more than he can chew?

        Or is he targetting those who he thinks can be easily bullied or intimidated?

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        • 33. wawe  |  October 30, 2015 at 9:57 am

          ….but Chinese government have also learned from the past. which is why crackdown is executed even though there is no trace of violence by the lamb of god fellas….Read this and digest it before you proceed.

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          • 34. Kineas1067  |  October 30, 2015 at 2:46 pm

            Also applicable to Tibetan Buddhists and Muslim Uighurs?

            Why don’t you ask the Dalai Lama and the World Uighur Congress about this?

            What else do you need to digest before posting statements that can be easily rubbished?

            Before you proceed further…..hahaha.

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        • 35. I am Woman  |  October 30, 2015 at 1:44 pm

          Dapsters are easily bullied? No, Dapsters are easily the bullies, let’s not kid ourselves.

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  • 36. Anti delusional dapsters  |  October 30, 2015 at 9:21 am

    Haiya kineas,why must ustaz nasha be overambitious.he needs to clean up our own backyard first la!

    moderation in msia means getting the evangelistas esp the likes of wong chun wai n hannah yeoh to stop their hypocrisy esp in the name of love n peace propaganda by their one bangsa hypocrisy n intrusion into mosques with their baju kurungs tudungs. To be fair, umno never disturbs the mosques unlike pas is brainwashing the minds of muslims with politics in their tszkirah, n mca n mic had the courtesy to be themselves without parading in baju melayus n tudungs

    I miss my 1980s schooldays where we in sekolah kebangsaan identify ourselves as malay chinese indians babas portugeese so as to understand n appreciate our different cultures n religions better.now we are ‘forced’ to be bangsa msia with rasicm blossoming.

    we are msians with various identities.we shud be proud n thats what
    Makes msia unique n special.when opposition becomes strong,dap strengthens the racial card divide whilst pas zooms on religious propaganda.i really really miss the 1980s where moderation really existed..

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  • 37. Anti delusional dapsters  |  October 30, 2015 at 9:41 am

    Btw helen,doesn’t it give you much pleasure thinking of wong chun wai working ‘closely’ with ustaz nasha as he did with saifuddin abdullah on moderation, with the likes of marina mahathir etc n promoting moderation via bracelets n placards in the jstar?hahaha…typical evangelistas style of propaganda…wcw must be cursing that his n hannah’s evangelism ‘hard’ work is going downhill.. great move by saifuddin abdullah, good riddance!
    Next….wong chun wai…!

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