Lim Kit Siang made five fudges when trying desperately to convince Malays that the DAP is meek, mild and mercifully disinterested in taking over the country.
Fudge #1
Lim Kit Siang declared that there are only 22 Chinese-majority Parliament seats in Peninsular Malaysia.
To downplay the threat posed by his party, Kit Siang conveniently omitted to mention the Chinese-majority seats in Sabah and Sarawak. They are:
- Kuching — 90.9% Chinese electorate
- Stampin — 73.2%
- Lanang — 72.1%
- Kota Kinabalu – 70.3%
- Sarikei — 65.7%
- Sibu — 64.6%
- Miri — 57.4%
- Sandakan — 53.5%
See GE13 table further below
The eight seats listed in Sabah and Sarawak are all absolute Chinese majority, seven of which are held by DAP.
Only Miri is not in DAP hands. The MP for Miri is a PKR Chinese.
So altogether there are 30 Chinese absolute majority Parliament seats in Malaysia. By “absolute”, it is meant that the Chinese electorate on its own exceeds 50 percent.
There are however dozens more Chinese majority seats where the number of Chinese voters are more than Malay and Indian voters, although the total Chinese electorate falls short of 50 percent.
An example is Taiping which has 47.9 percent Chinese voters, 37.1 percent Malay and 13.5 percent Indian voters. Taiping is one example of a Chinese-majority seat albeit it is not an “absolute” (i.e. >50%) Chinese-majority seat.
Fudge #2
Kit Siang claimed that “the Chinese, who are in the majority in only 13% of the parliamentary seats”.
There are 30 Chinese absolute majority seats out of 222 Parliament seats in the current Dewan. That’s 13.51 percent and the figure should correctly be rounded up to 14 percent, rather than rounded down to 13 percent as done by Kit Siang the fudger.
Taking Chinese-majority seats where there are more Chinese than Malay voters, we have the following 15 constituencies:
- Kluang — Chinese 49.3%, Malay 40.0%
- Bayan Baru — C 48.5%, M 39.1%
- Serdang — C 48.6%, M 39.6%
- Rasah — C 48.3%, M 27.8%
- Pandan — C 48.2%, M 44.4%
- Taiping — C 47.9%, M 37.1%
- Labis — C 46.6%, M 38.1%
- Gopeng — C 46.0%, M 42.9%
- Klang — C 45.8%, M 33.0%
- Segamat — C 45.6, M 44.3%
- Puchong — C 43.5%, M 39.4%
- Teluk Intan — C 41.9%, M 38.6%
- Kelana Jaya — C 41.7%, M 37.9%
- PJ Selatan — C 41.5%, M 40.3%
- Sungai Siput — C 39.2%, M 33.0%
Therefore, the number of Parliament constituencies where Chinese are the majority – either in absolute terms or relative to Malay and Indian voters – total altogether 45 seats or more.
Aside from those seats listed above, there are also others where the Malay and Chinese voters are almost equal such as Bentong where Chinese comprised 43.9 percent whereas Malays were 44.6 percent.
So calculating from 45/222, the Chinese are a majority (biggest ethnicity) in 20.3 percent of the Parliament seats, and not merely 13 percent as claimed by Kit Siang.
Fudge #3
Kit Siang alleged that “Najib … [is] entering Malaysian history as the first minority Prime Minister in the country”.
There is no such understanding of the term “minority government” or “minority PM” as the DAP has chosen to interpret it.
BN won a total of 133 Parliament seats in GE13. The closest rival is DAP with 38 seats. Going by the number of seats, BN is the “MAJORITY” government.
Going by the percentage of votes, BN had obtained 47.38 percent of the popular vote in GE13. PKR collected 20.39 percent whereas DAP got 15.71 percent and PAS had 14.77 percent.
Measuring by this criterion, BN is still the “MAJORITY” government.
It is the BN that got the ‘majority’ support. (This is because all the BN votes came under a single Dacing umbrella while the Pakatan votes were split to be under different logos — Rocket, Moon, Eye.)
Fudge #4
Kit Siang announced that, “the Malays in Malaysia will continue to exercise political power in Malaysia as there is no way they will lose their political power”.
The man is bluffing. Malays are admitedly more in number but under-registered as voters.
The voter turnout for the Chinese is super maximum whereas the Malays may decide to abstain from voting or spoil their votes in protest.
The Chinese votes are solidly behind DAP but the Malay votes are split.
Fudge #5
Finally, Kit Siang wants the rakyat to “save Malaysia from the present national trajectories towards a failed and rogue state”.
We’re not headed towards becoming “a failed and rogue state” lah. Kit Siang is bluffing recklessly again. No wonder he’s the Grandpapa Dapster of ’em all.
Updated: 10.22am
Helen Ang 
Helen, good that you did some quantitative analysis. Easier to discuss based on numbers rather than description. I lay down some facts. Correct me if wrong.
1. Parliament has 222 MPs.
2. DAP has 38 MPs.
3. In GE13, DAP contested 51 MP seats. As such, the winning rate is 75%.
Source: http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2013/11/27/dap-pas-and-pkr-achieved-their-best-parliamentary-and-state-assembly-results-during-their-tripartite-co-operation-in-the-1999-2008-and-2013-general-elections/
4. Assume a 100% winning rate, DAP would command only 23% seats in Parliament.
5. Come GE14, DAP will be unable to sustain the winning rate of 75% of GE13 as PAS may contest in some of their seats (I assume in seats where the Chinese electorate is less than 40%). In a 3 corner fight, BN will surely win.
Based on the above scenario, how can DAP take power? You have also forgotten on gerry-mandering. In GE13, BN won approx. 48% votes and Oppo parties 52%. Yet the result is BN commands 133 seats (60%) and Oppo parties 90 seats (40%). In order for PH to get simple majority in Parliament (i.e. 112 seats), I assume they would require perhaps 60% of votes, which is impossible for the time being. I would even make a wild guess that even if BN secures only 40% of votes in the coming GE, BN would still command a simple majority in Parliament.
So, how the Malays can lose political power to DAP?
How can the Israeli military kick ass in a sea of Arabs? Size is not necessarily everything. Sneaky strategies help a lot.
DAP banking on its politics of hate. Never underestimate the gullibility of Malaysians.
re: How can the Israeli military kick ass in a sea of Arabs? Size is not necessarily everything. Sneaky strategies help a lot.
Out of sudden, you bring out a point without an apple-to-apple comparison basis. I really don’t know how to rebut that. I take it that based on quantitative basis, you agreed with my prognosis?
Israel may kick ass in sea of Arabs. But has Israel took over political powers in any Arab countries?
re: “Out of sudden, you bring out a point without an apple-to-apple comparison basis.”
DAP are neo-Zionists. Vicious and cruel.
re: “I take it that based on quantitative basis, you agreed with my prognosis?”
I already answered you. DAP now setting its sights beyond the Chinese-majority seats alone. They’re going to be putting up Malay candidates like Dyana, Rara, Aziz Bari, the pol-secs/Personal Assistants and the Roketkini boys.
Some Protuns are willing to bersekongkol dengan Cina ultra. Don’t forget, the Tun factor was one of the causes contributing to Sleepy Dollah’s washout in 2008.
re: “Israel may kick ass in sea of Arabs. But has Israel took over political powers in any Arab countries?”
They’ve occupied West Bank and Jerusalem, i.e. taking over Palestinian territory through illegal settlements.
Also militarily occupied Golan Heights which Israel captured in war before returning it to Egypt under peace accord.
Israeli tanks have rolled into Lebanon right to the gates of Beirut. Under Israel’s watch, its ally – the Christian Phalangist militia – massacred Palestinians in the Sabra and Shatila refugees camps, Lebanon.
And Israel has alleged ties to DAP and helped train the DAP dajjals – I’m waiting to Dr Zuhdi to furnish his proof … tick tock, tick tock.
Typo:
I’m waiting FOR Dr Zuhdi … to kick ass.
re: DAP are neo-Zionists. Vicious and cruel.
How convenient to simply throw accusation without providing evidence? I am not going to comment further.
re: I already answered you. DAP now setting its sights beyond the Chinese-majority seats alone.
These non-Chinese majority/mixed seats are currently contested by PAS. Due to PR break-up, PAS and DAP will cross contest in each other seats. DAP can field Malay candidates. But with 3 cornered fights, the oppo votes will split and BN will win for sure.
re: I’m waiting to Dr Zuhdi to furnish his proof … tick tock, tick tock.
It will be an endless wait. If he has real solid proof, he would have made police reports. Anyway, just wait for the outcome of the defamation suit by DAP against Zuhdi. Let Zuhdi answer in court and see whether his so-called proof is substantial enough or otherwise. Perhaps in 2-3 years time.
Back in 2006, Perak Mufti alleged that up to 100k Muslims have renounced Islam with no proof. I am not sure if there was any investigation, but for sure there was no prosecution in court and let alone conviction.
re: “How convenient to simply throw accusation without providing evidence?”
Bintang Lima are the cucu-cicit of Bintang Tiga. Enough said.
re: “But with 3 cornered fights, the oppo votes will split and BN will win for sure.”
I wish I had your confidence that BN will win for sure ‘)
What I’ve seen – e.g. during the recent “bickering” between a Protun and Projib blogger – I wouldn’t so confidently under-estimate the gullibility of the voting public. A gullible electorate is susceptible to the party that has mastered the art of dirty tricks and fitnah.
re: “If he has real solid proof, he would have made police reports.”
I believe police reports, and counter reports, had been made during the first round of accusations by Mohd Razali. Wonder if Rani Kulup had also made a police report back then. If not, he can still catch up.
re: “Anyway, just wait for the outcome of the defamation suit by DAP against Zuhdi.”
Dr Zuhdi already said, Bring it on.
re: “Let Zuhdi answer in court and see whether his so-called proof is substantial enough or otherwise. Perhaps in 2-3 years time.”
Our SB might know.
re: “Back in 2006, Perak Mufti alleged that up to 100k Muslims have renounced Islam with no proof. I am not sure if there was any investigation, but for sure there was no prosecution in court and let alone conviction.”
The number can’t be pinned down but the ‘ancaman Kristianisasi’ roadshows and forums are exposing some.
This ancaman is even greater on the Chinese community. Who knows how many Chinese are involved with this cult especially the Chinese youth.
Pantau lah gereja evangelis yang melambak-lambak tu.
Yang menjadi perantaraan pihak DAP neo-Zionis dengan puak Zionis adalah orang tengah – si Kristian Zionis yang kuat sokong Israel.
http://www.lampuislam.org/2013/08/paulus-sang-perusak-ajaran-asli-yesus.html?m=1
Memang pun Kit Siang dan anaknya cuba memutarbelitkan ragam politik Malaysia melalui cara dakwah bidaah agama yang tersandar kepada Nabi Isa a.s.. Sebagaimana Paulus al-Tarsus pada zaman awal telah memesongkan ajaran Rasulullah Isa a.s. dari yang asli kepada ajaran syiriknya, iaitu mengtuhankan nabi dan menganuti kultus pengorbanan darah dewa.
re: Dr Zuhdi already said, Bring it on.
Why wait for court case to reveal proof? If proof is genuine, the court will at most dismiss DAP’s defamation suit against him. DAP has nothing to lose (except legal fees and costs).
Zuhdi should reveal proof to the public and make police reports (with publicity). Then only DAP can be criminally indicted. Look at what Rafizi did with the NFC evidence. Public exposure. Zuhdi’s allegation is a matter of national security. Israel offering 1.2 bil to build army base should DAP wins Putrajaya. In fact, police can start to arrest DAP leaders using POTA, SOSMA etc.
re: “Then only DAP can be criminally indicted.”
I wish. Still waiting for some news on the police report made by Penyimpan Mohor Besar Di-Raja against TMI.
re: “Look at what Rafizi did with the NFC evidence. Public exposure.”
He breached the banking act.
re: “Zuhdi’s allegation is a matter of national security.”
This could perhaps be the reason he has to tread with caution.
re: “In fact, police can start to arrest DAP leaders using POTA, SOSMA etc.”
Still waiting for police action against Tong Kooi Ong and Ho Kay Tat vis-a-vis Justo.
If DAP fascists were sitting in Putrajaya, half the BN-supporting population would already be rotting in jail.
re: ……. police report made by Penyimpan Mohor Besar Di-Raja against TMI.
What it has got to do with Zuhdi’s allegation against DAP?
re: He breached the banking act.
What law will Zuhdi breach if he reveal his proof publicly?
re: This could perhaps be the reason he has to tread with caution.
Under the Sosma and Pota (if not mistaken), a slightest suspicion will prompt the police to act. Even under criminal laws, the police can still take statement from DAP leaders vis-a-vis Zuhdi’s allegation as part of investigation process. I have not seen such process being initiated.
re: Still waiting for police action against Tong Kooi Ong and Ho Kay Tat vis-a-vis Justo.
What it has got to do with Zuhdi’s allegation against DAP?
re: “What it has got to do with Zuhdi’s allegation against DAP?”
The report by the Keeper of the Royal Seal to the police precedes Zuhdi. Take your queue number and wait in line.
re: “What law will Zuhdi breach if he reveal his proof publicly?”
How do you know that he does not prefer to cooperate quietly with the police to ensure that the evidence is watertight? The Justo case is also unraveling but it takes time, esp. when foreign governments are (indirectly) involved.
re: “Under the Sosma and Pota (if not mistaken), a slightest suspicion will prompt the police to act.”
The police have not acted against TMI or Datuk Tong and Mr Ho as yet. Take your queue number and wait in line.
re: “I have not seen such process being initiated.”
Take your queue number and wait in line.
re: “What it has got to do with Zuhdi’s allegation against DAP?”
Take your queue number and wait in line. Who are you to impose your timeline and LIFO (Last in, first out) on the police?
re: queue number
How many times you want to mention? Anyway, a seditious crime is very easy to investigate. The ingredients are simple. Intention is irrelevant. The most important is the evidence/proof of the statement or speech made by the alleged offender.
Re: police report made by Penyimpan Mohor Besar Di-Raja against TMI
The alleged TMI news was made like 9 months ago. I trust the police would have handed the investigation papers to AG. It could be the AG that decided not to prosecute. Try google other sedition trials like Azmi Sharom, Eric Paulsen etc. Compare the time difference between the date they made the alleged seditious statement and the date when they were charged. Surely not 9 months.
If you are still waiting for TMI to be charged, how long more you want to wait?
Looking at the latest retraction of defamatory statement of Nasruddin against LGE, I am willing to bet that Zuhdi will soon retract his allegation of Israel-DAP conspiracy. Time will tell.
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/1669063
re: I wish I had your confidence that BN will win for sure ‘)
Off-hand I can’t tell you precisely. But based on GE 13 precedents, a few seats had 3 corner fights BN-DAP-PKR/PAS. These seats were won by BN.
So imagine the DAP’s fear that PAS and Umno are hooking up.
It explains why the evangelistas have been going all out to demonize the Malay-Muslim polity (in context of Umno-PAS cooperation) and flooring the pedal on their lies and slander campaign.
We fear the hookers PAS and JIB-NO
You should fear the dajjal more as the Holy Book has warned.
One would think these people would send operatives of substance but after so many years its still the same. The vulgarity hasn’t toned down a bit. Words like hookers are so easy coming from them. Their mind must be so intoxicated that all these are dirt.
Their selves are for the taking at a price, while they display their wares.
http://masud.co.uk/ISLAM/ahm/cardiff.htm
“The name of Adam’s ancient enemy, Iblis, signals his ability to invert and overturn – “yulabbis”; he confuses and muddles mankind. And the Dajjal is in this sense a physical materialisation of Iblis (Lucifer): he is the Great Deceiver insofar as he dresses up virtue as vice, and vice-versa.
Examples spring all too readily to mind. For instance: Once upon a time the old were respected and admired more than the young; today, it is the other way around. Once unnatural vice was despised, now it is the only practice that cannot be criticized in the films or in polite society. Once humility was praised, and pride was a sin; today there has been a complete inversion. No longer are we asked to control ourselves, instead we are urged to “discover” ourselves. The “nafs” (instinctual self) is king of the millennium.
Those of you who perchance saw the Queen forced to watch the orgy at the Greenwich Dome, a celebration of mindless erotic and athletic display that had nothing to do with the man whom the Millennium supposedly marked, will know this well enough.
It is the principle of the Dajjal that brings about this kind of evil. It is an evil that is worse than the traditional sort, which was simply the failure to practice commonly-respected virtues; because the new evil “yulabbis” – it inverts; it turns virtue into vice. It is, in this sense, one-eyed and without perspective. The sight by which we observe the outward world is composed of information from two separate instruments.
When we speak of religious understanding we speak of “basira” – perception guided by wisdom. And it is characteristic of Islam that wisdom consists in recognising and establishing the correct balance between the two great principles of existence: ie. the outward – the form, and the inward – the content. “Zahir” and “batin”, to use the Qur’anic terms.
The Dajjal sees with one eye. In this understanding, we would say that he is therefore a man of zahir, or of batin, but never of both. Either he is a literalist, or he is free in the spirit.
The most glorious achievement of Islam, which is to reveal a pattern of human life which explores and celebrates the physical possibilities of man in a way that does not obstruct but rather enhances and deepens his metaphysical capacities, is hence negated. The miscreant at the end of time is, therefore, the exact inversion of the Islamic ideal.”
drinho, who do you even bother to reply? She keeps on shifting the goalposts whenever you try to make a point. I am sure I am going to be skewered by her for this post but what the hell she is totally and absolutely entitled to her own opinions
Why you bother to even visited her blog and post your grouses? You think we care meh?
He’s a cytro, yawn. Doggedly carrying on with the smear campaign against me.
Kevin, another new name. What’s next ? Kelvin ?
I think you are being a little simplistic and perhaps, naïve even. As I have said earlier, the grand strategy of DAP is this. They know that with 25% Chinese votes they cannot hope to take over the country on their own, despite their 95% control over the Chinese electorate. They need the votes of Orang Aslis, Indians, bumis of Sabah and Sarawak and most importantly the Malays.
Since they know that the Malays won’t vote for them, they enter into marriages of convenience with PKR and PAS/PAN. They know that they need to split the Malay votes so to reduce the Malay power so they form their own Malay wing. So now effectively Malays are split among UMNO, PKR, PAS and now PAN. In this scenario, they will emerge as the strongest party. And by forming a coalition with PKR and PAN they will form the government. And just like it was in Perak after 2008, the govt will be helmed by PKR/PAN but controlled and micro-managed by DAP.
So Perak 2008 is DAP’s blueprint for Malaysia of the future.
As for you hypothesis of PH needing to get 60% to win, I think this is being silly. There is no gerrymandering as there were no changes in the parliamentary and state seats for decades. So how can there be any gerrymandering? PH can also win the GE with 48% of votes. The reason why PR won 52% of votes but lost the election is because they won big in highly dense urban areas populated by Chinese voters while in less dense Sabah and Sarawak they lost big.
cs,
re: They know that they need to split the Malay votes so to reduce the Malay power so they form their own Malay wing.
Malay votes already split ever since the formation of PAS way back in the 1960s. Malays have also witness many splits like Ku Li’s Semangat 46 and Anwar’s PKR.
re: There is no gerrymandering as there were no changes in the parliamentary and state seats for decades
That is because gerrymandering has happened for decades. People like Shahidan Kassim, Ismail Sabri and Former EC chief have admitted to gerrymandering.
What is your comment on the below:-
a) the removal of the court’s jurisdiction to review and rectify electoral role;
b) removal of the allowable difference between the largest and smallest constituency.
drinho,
1. I didn’t say that DAP caused the Malay votes to be split. True PAS and PKR were formed some years back and the Malay votes were split among them. However so were the Chinese votes split among DAP, MCA and Gerakan. However after the 2008 GE DAP managed to attract 95% of Chinese votes. When this happened, DAP and the Chinese realised that the whole political equation changed and the dream of DAP to replace the Ketuanan Melayu seemed within reach.
That’s why DAP became the main driver behind PR and keeping the unlikely bedfellows PAS/PKR & DAP desperately together even when it was clear that PAS was all for hudud. Remember after the 1999 GE, DAP decided to ditch the Opposition coalition because of PAS’ Islamic ambitions.
So for DAP, the objective was no less than political control of the country by splitting the Malay votes and using PAS and PKR as vehicles. So they bankroll PKR and PAN to keep them alive as they need them to split the Malays.
2. Gerrymandering : I didn’t say there were never gerrymandering but rather in the context of your claim that in the 13GE PR lost out despite getting 52% votes due to gerrymandering. Since there were no changes to the voting districts obviously BN couldn’t engineer their victory in 2013. I admit there were gerrymandering previously, but the political situation in the country has changed so much that these changes no longer helped BN in 2013. The real reason why PR lost is because of Sabah and Sarawak. This is not due to gerrymandering but due to the Malaysia Agreement, these states need to keep 1/3 of seats in the parliament. You see you Dapsters tend to throw accusations without thinking or analysis – just recycle whatever baseline accusations your DAP leaders throw out at BN.
3. The decision of the court is correct as they are based on the law. Bersih and PH are just trying to create confusion on the issue by making accusations without foundations so it is no surprise that their case got thrown out.
re: This is not due to gerrymandering but due to the Malaysia Agreement, these states need to keep 1/3 of seats in the parliament.
1. Is Malaysia Agreement binding?
2. Do Sabah & Sarawak Parliament seats really account for 1/3 if the current Parliament?
re: The decision of the court is correct as they are based on the law.
Of course correct. Court decided based on law. BN amended election laws. Prior to amendment, court has power to review and order EC to rectify defective electoral role (e.g. phantom voters, incorrect voters’ info). After the amendment, such power was removed. As long as the electoral role is gazetted by EC, the role is final and binding. EC can gazette a defective role and no one can challenge it.
As for Malaysia Agreement, of course it is binding and the seats are allocated based on it. What you mean it is not binding ? Are you saying that Pakatan would not honour the 1/3 allocation ? Why not DAP go out and say so during the upcoming Sarawak State election?
You are talking as though the amendments to the Election Act was made just in time for the GE. Actually the Section 9A (the section related this issue) was made back in 2002. The problem is Pakatoons only realise this when Charles Santiago’s idiotic law suit was thrown out by court in 2013.
These electoral laws are nothing new or special to Malaysia. There are already mechanisms to address issues of defective rolls and these are displayed for public viewing and objection. Also bear in mind that EC is not responsible for the accuracy of the rolls as they are merely register the names as long as the conditions are met. so it makes no sense for courts to review the accuracy of the rolls and then challenge EC. So there is nothing sinister in this law.
The point is you don’t have to wait for the election to be over before challenging the accuracy of the electoral roll. You can do it well before and the process for it does exist. As EC has mentioned many times before, the job of cleaning up the electoral rolls does not depend on them alone but other agencies and even political parties too. The EC has not made any claims that the rolls are 100% as it is not within their legal responsibilities or capabilities to ensure that.
In any case, after all the hype about phantom voters none was caught by Pakatan or their macai NGOs during the GE. This only goes to show that what the Pakatan leaders and supporters being claiming all the while was just pure unadulterated BS.
Calvin/Drinho,
re: “Are you saying that Pakatan would not honour the 1/3 allocation?”
DAP has already indicated that it would break the Malaysia Agreement. They’re advocating ‘one man, one vote, one value’, and reducing the ratio of rural Borneo seats.
Under our present weighted circumstances, rural votes in the peninsula have more value than the urban votes in sardine-packed constituencies. Likewise, Sabah and Sarawak votes have more value than peninsular votes.
re: “In any case, after all the hype about phantom voters none was caught by Pakatan or their macai NGOs during the GE.”
None of the election petition filed by the opposition included ‘blackout’ and ‘phantom voter’ charges either. They’re sneaky bastards, that’s all.
re: “This only goes to show that what the Pakatan leaders and supporters being claiming all the while was just pure unadulterated BS.”
The Pakatoons swallow the shit dished out to them, lick their chops and say sweet, “yum yum”.
Helen,
I would love to see LKS and LGE go to Sarawak and declare their cherished notion of ‘one man, one vote, one value’ during the state election. But being the Super Biawaks, they will as usual offer their BS excuses and tell the Sarawakians a different story.
Calvin, before they can go to Sarawak, one question you must ask is, will the Sarawak gov allow them to enter the state ? Cheers ! l o l
Why even ask ? They have been to Sarawak so many times. I am sure that as long as they don’t make any racially/ religiously offensive statements, the Sarawak CM will allow them to visit the state.
l o l
re: As for Malaysia Agreement, of course it is binding and the seats are allocated based on it.
That agreement is not legally binding. EC chairman has said the same. Refer here: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/not-bound-by-1963-accord-to-allocate-one-third-seats-to-sabah-sarawak-says
Current Sabah & Sarawak seats in Parliament are 57 only (26%). 1/3 means 74 seats. Deficit of 17 seats. What is so binding?
re: Actually the Section 9A (the section related this issue) was made back in 2002. The problem is Pakatoons only realise this when Charles Santiago’s idiotic law suit was thrown out by court in 2013.
The fact remains that the amendment has been passed and legally enforced. It will continue to remain so for many elections to come.
re: There are already mechanisms to address issues of defective rolls and these are displayed for public viewing and objection. Also bear in mind that EC is not responsible for the accuracy of the rolls as they are merely register the names as long as the conditions are met. so it makes no sense for courts to review the accuracy of the rolls and then challenge EC. So there is nothing sinister in this law.
No one is saying there is no process to rectify the roll. EC has its own procedure. The real question is: what is the remedy for an aggrieved party if the EC refuse to rectify the defective role? None.
re: The EC has not made any claims that the rolls are 100% as it is not within their legal responsibilities or capabilities to ensure that.
EC is not perfect. That is why it must open itself (or the electoral role) to be reviewed by judiciary. If such review is removed, shouldn’t EC be doing a perfect job as it is the ultimate authority when it comes to electoral role.
EC is a Commission established by law like SPAD, SPRM, SSM, SC etc. Can you imagine what will happen if the authority of the court is removed from this Commission? Take SC – Securities Commission as example. It has the power to prosecute. Let say you are charged for insider trading. No trial before an impartial judge as the judiciary is removed from deciding the veracity of the charge. You are automatically convicted and sentenced. Do you want this to happen?
1. I can’t fathom the Pakatoon’s thought process. Do you think the Malaysia Agreement is binding or not? At one side you claim it is not binding and a form of gerrymandering but on the other hand LKS is claiming to support for it. Biawakism at its best.
2. Section 9A : The problem with you Pakatoons is that you don’t understand what you talking about and base your arguments on what you pick up on DAP/PKR websites or their propaganda sites such as MI, Mkini, etc.
This section does not say anything about election result cannot be changed. Please go and read the Act before you proceed further. The courts can hear and even nullify the election results and there were several suits since 2013. The Section 9 A only concerns about voters roll.
BTW Even EC themselves were subjected to many legal suits by PR. There is no such thing as being above the law.
re: Do you think the Malaysia Agreement is binding or not?
What politicians think is not really important. Legally speaking, the agreement is not binding.
re: Section 9A
The clause says:
“After an electoral roll has been certified or re-certified, as the case may be, and notice of the certification or re-certification has been published in the Gazette as prescribed by regulations made under this Act, the electoral roll shall be deemed to be final and binding and shall not be questioned or appealed against in, or reviewed, quashed or set aside by, any court.”
This is what we call an ouster clause, i.e. judicial scrutiny is removed. The decision of a public authority is final and cannot be challenged in court. For Section 9A, the court is powerless to review the decision of the EC in relation to electoral roll.
re: This section does not say anything about election result cannot be changed.
Since when I said such thing? From the very beginning, I have been talking on EC’s absolute powers in relation to electoral roll due to removal of judicial scrutiny.
re: There is no such thing as being above the law.
No. You are wrong. The electoral role once gazetted by EC is conclusive despite irregularities. Any judicial attempt to rectify/review the roll is futile.
Read that section again, it says very clearly it only concerned about gazetted electoral rolls, not about election in general. Perhaps you should start to expand your reading to non-Pakatan propaganda sites. There were a few suits challenging the election results and in none of these cases the judges cited this Section and refused to make deliver a judgment.
CS,
re: Read that section again, it says very clearly it only concerned about gazetted electoral rolls, not about election in general.
Yes, gazetted electoral rolls. I repeat. I have never said anything about ‘election in general’. Perhaps you will understand better with an example.
Consider the scenario below:-
1. You are thinking of contesting a parliament seat in GE14.
2. You checked the electoral role of the constituency.
3. You found some irregularities (eg. a house address have more then 30 registered voters).
4. You initiated a court case against the SPR, demanding that the said roll be cleaned up (or at least the 30 names).
5. Court refused to review the roll citing section 9A, i.e. court has no jurisdiction to review upon the roll being gazetted.
6. Election comes and the tainted roll is used by SPR for voting in the constituency that you are contesting.
Irrespective of whether you win or lose, is the above a fair election?
Ps. In relation to Charles Santiago case, the court dismissed his application in March 2013 (i.e. before GE 13 was held in May 2013). There is a difference between:-
a) challenging the election results after the election;
b) seeking judicial review on the veracity of gazetted electoral roll before an election.
Helen, appreciate if you may share your thoughts.
BTW, I am still awaiting your reply on my post in “Update on the Umno-PAS-DAP situation”:
10. drinho | January 8, 2016 at 9:50 am
Link here: https://helenang.wordpress.com/2016/01/06/update-on-the-umno-pas-dap-situation/
……Liaw: ‘The whole market is very quiet, like we expected. Market performance has been impacted between 10% to 30% compared…..
I was fm a boarding school from as early as 11yrs old, same same my hubby, both my parents, other friends, siblings and kids. Huge networking. And there are thousands out there same same like me.
Since 2008 ABCD dah mula terap dalam jiwa kami, this Liaw or the Star did not put this into consideration. Kami dah tak segan silu..direct tanya… ini perniagaan milik siapa and just walk away kecuali kalau terdesak/terpaksa. Even those fake ‘halal’ certs we alert everyone. Alahai ABCD tu sebenarnya kami ikut cara you all, nothing new.
30 seats kira banyak la and that most of the major towns are won by them.
My Apek neighbours mengeluh tak renti these past few years their business are doing very bad, anak2 no job opportunities payah mau cari makan..I ticked him off apasal sekarang baru banyak komplen?.
Selangor, Penang and Kelantan so many years already under Pakatan why blame BN for your misfortunes? Apa lu olang punya Aduns and MPs doing all these years? Masih mau tunggu usaha BN lagi juga ke?
And on UiTM. Always unhappy about UiTM. Kenapa? Cannot panetrate and tap business opportunities with “UiTM huge community” ke?
‘Cannot panetrate and tap business opportunities with “UiTM huge community” ke?’
So much of meritocracy! Tapi butthurt tak habis2…
1st
Brudder, what has this got to do with meritocracy?
Harlequin,
Meritocracy hang baca dan faham kat sini, then go explain to thise BM/BI illiterates;
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_153_of_the_Constitution_of_Malaysia
Back to loss of potential business opportunities. Let me also include IPTAs. Cuba you berangan sikit?
My Apek neighbour spent thousands each month to send his 5 SJKC kids for extra tiusyen classes 7days a week. After SPM, not confident of Malaysian education system (including IPTS), he sent his kids to further donno what studies in Singapore.
You think these types are interested to send their kids to UiTM ke? Haiyaaa saya businesswoman ma. Nak sangat masuk UiTM bukan untuk anak2 mereka tapi untuk mak ayah nak bikin business lor. Kekekeke
Dear Rina
To debate whether your unsuspecting Ah Pek neighbor would send his kids to UiTM is moot when they cannot even fulfill the fundamental race requirement of UiTM.
You did not bring up the meritocracy bit, 1st did.
So my meritocracy question was directed at 1st.
You do see the irony of using the word meritocracy in context to UiTM and its business model when the establishment was unapologetically designed to be the antithesis of meritocracy.
Haiya, Rina was talking about ‘Orang Tinggi’ jual la sesuatu kat the UiTM grads. A lot of them you know?
Why still butthurt pasal UiTM. Lousy U what? Run by stupid and malas dumno?!
1st
Butthurt?
No.
C’mon lah brudder, you all pun jangan sensitive sangat.
One of the entry requirement to UiTM is race-based, no need to feel adamant when others call a spade a spade.
Cheers
“After SPM, not confident of Malaysian education system (including IPTS), he sent his kids to further donno what studies in Singapore.”
And the population is dropping, with the birth rate drop, choosy women and migration. Why bitch about having low enrollments at the SKJC?
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016/01/12/chinese-numbers-shrinking-decline-reflected-in-enrolment-at-vernacular-schools-reports-daily/
While the number of Chinese pupils has declined, the number of non-Chinese pupils increased from 72,443 in 2010 to 87,463 in 2014, according to figures from the Education Ministry.
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016/01/13/varied-approach-on-low-birth-rate/
“However, Penang Hokkien Kongsi secretary Datuk Khoo Kay Hock said having a child in a modern society was an economic decision that parents needed to weigh carefully.
“Chinese women have become highly educated in the past 30 years.
“If they become doctors, then they will at least want to marry a doctor. ”
In fact the survival of the SKJC are the Malays and Indians. When they are few Chinese in the SKJC, it is the Malays and Indians that make the numbers.
http://www.thestar.com.my/~/media/online/2016/01/11/22/58/fertility-rate-chinese-drop.ashx?h=369&w=620&la=en
But if you look at the article, the Chinese are not really dropping. Indians are. But why is the Star making a fuss.?
re: Selangor, Penang and Kelantan so many years already under Pakatan why blame BN for your misfortunes? Apa lu olang punya Aduns and MPs doing all these years? Masih mau tunggu usaha BN lagi juga ke?
For a typical business, the jurisdiction of Federal Government affects more than the State Government. The former is responsible for things like GST, toll hike, electric tariff hike, subsidy, currency exchange, interest rate, foreign workers etc. The latter is responsible for matters like business license, assessment, permits, potholes, water tariff etc.
Ask any business owners like mamak restaurant, grocery shops or car repair workshop, they will most probably tell you that the policies of Federal Government affects their business significantly. Not so much affected by policies of State Government.
drinho
You ni kalut lebih.. Kawasan saya ada 3 24hr-mamak, 4 famous Chinese restaurants (seafood, western), 2 Malay famous restaurants and one big KFC.
One of the Mamak is opening another branch 2km away… One Apek just bought his own building, 7yrs renting the present premise. Kena beratur tau, packed most days, 1.5K fresh telapia sold each day.
GST and whatever price hikes make no difference, business as usual aje. Restaurant2 kamu cakap tak sedap kot?
Belajar adapt to situation sikit drinho, live within your means. Hutang credit card you banyak sangat ke yg you mengelabah sangat ni? Jangan beli barang2 tak perlu. Life and economy is a cycle, there are good times and bad times..
Rina, saya tak kata dasar kerajaan di negeri yang dikuasai pembangkang tidak membawa masalah kepada perniagaan. Apa yang saya kata adalah di antara dasar kerajaan persekutuan dan dasar kerajaan negeri, dasar kerajaan persekutuan lebih mendatangkan impak kepada perniagaan.
re: One of the Mamak is opening another branch 2km away…………..GST and whatever price hikes make no difference, business as usual aje.
Betul ke GST tiada apa-apa perbesaan? Awak bagi contoh kawasan setempat untuk apa? Ada pengesahan? Mari saya bagi contoh yang ‘real’ yang berlaku di seluruh negara.
http://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2015/05/02/gst-effects-beginning-to-be-felt/
GST is nothing new. Kalau yang seumur hidup tak pernah bayar cukai or zakat memang kesan macam nak gila bagi mereka nih drinho. They think what they earn is all theirs kemudahan lain semua magic jatuh dari langit.
Yg tak mampu or takmau bayar GST try not to commit using/buying GST related products/services. Kena pandai ukur baju dibadan sendiri la. NOTHING is free in this world.
Kamu berlagak macam dari keturunan tak pernah merasai kepayahan hidup. Probably 1st or 2nd generation pendatang. Zaman Jepun dulu elders kami makan ubi kayu, tu pun kalau dapat tau.. Zaman British nak pi sekolah pun payah tau.
Lama I have been asking for list of huge projects brought in solely by Pakatan in Penang, Selangor and Kelantan tapi none answered. Now faham tak nape tokong kepit Tokpa kalau boleh nak suap makanan dalam mulut dia?
re: Yg tak mampu or takmau bayar GST try not to commit using/buying GST related products/services.
How the hell to do that especially for the lower income that consumer basic necessities? One example for you. Do you know that canned sardine has GST but fresh lobster has none? Why the poor has to pay GST eating sardine (a common food) whereas the rich need no pay GST for lobster?
Another example: Mamak food. Surely this is not luxurious and frequented by many low income earners. Mamak charges GST. How to avoid GST?
re: Kamu berlagak macam dari keturunan tak pernah merasai kepayahan hidup.
Looks like you are the one “tak pernah merasai kepayahan hidup”. Tak faham kesusahan B40 yang perlu membayar GST. Cuba bagi satu link berita yang mengatakan B40 tidak terbeban dengan GST langsung.
…Due to the general rise in prices of goods and services after the GST implementation, RHB Research …
Ni pun tak amik ABCD into consideration. Huge impact tau.
Clinics, Legal firms, property-insurance bla bla agents, vehicle-property maintainance etc etc whatever we need to spend sikalang kami really2 scrutinize tau. Tunggu la another 10yrs..
Drinho, Klo min salary 1K, the most they can afford to spend with theur earnings and pay GST is RM60. Amboi mak..mereka ni yg dok merana atau poket businessman yang merana?
Sardines considered a luxury food today tau.. cheaper to get fresh fish or chicken for same value, lagi nutritious. Amboi mak..kamu ni tak pernah pergi pasar ke? Even my maid shops at different pasaraya to gain on their ‘special’ knockdown offers.
Mamak shops my area cerdik belaka. They offer smaller portions for same price. Glasses pun kecik sikit dari dulu. Yang mengada2 naik prices kami boikot. Senang, hantar gambaq kedai masuk WA or fb..done!
re: Even my maid shops at different pasaraya to gain on their ‘special’ knockdown offers.
Oh, ada maid ye? Sah dan confirm you ni orang senang. Bukan dalam jenis Bottom 40% (B40). Mestilah tak faham kesempitan B40. Kalau ada maid, buat apa you masih mahu hunting for knockdown offers?
re: Sardines considered a luxury food today tau
Kalau sardine = luxury, habis tu ikan salmon dan lobster kita nak panggil apa?
re: cheaper to get fresh fish or chicken for same value, lagi nutritious
Kalau dah ada maid, mestilah beli fresh fish or chicken. Tak payah sendiri beli. Maid yang keluar belikan. Tak payah sendiri masak. Maid yang masak. You hanya duduk makan saja. Lepas makan pun, maid yang cuci pinggan. Orang B40 makan sardine sebab simple dan jimat masa. Itupun nak kena GST.
drinho, kalau bracket M40 (RM3,689 – RM8,320) dah kira dari golongan pintar2 so kena cerdik sikit adapt to situations.
..dulu sakit sikit kami just need to walk 30steps dah masuk klinik sebelah. Minimum charge for simple flu and sembang2 RM70. Ubat darah tinggi dia charge RM130.00. Today, we drive to klinik gomen, kena RM1 only.. for the same pills I paid only RM90 at the nearest pharmacy. Also because we are strong ABCD supporters we don’t want to waste our money kasi itu clinic sebelah.
Pasai kamu pemalas you don’t make an effort to cook at home, silap gomen juga ke? My son learns cooking via internet and no sardines nonsense, he does not fancy food sold in Singapore restaurants. He is in T20 bracket, pretty busy everyday yet he still find time to cook at home. My sister a doctor (administrator) also under T20 bracket, bekal home cooked meal to office. Not that both cannot afford tapi sikap rajin and jaga diet for health reasons the extra savings they send regular (monthly) donations to the old folks OKU homes.
Income tax kena, zakat bayar and GST pun kena tapi tak komplen banyak macam kamu.
Rina,
Segala perbuatan seperti:-
1. pergi klinik kerajaan bukan klink swasta;
2. KR1M bukan kedai runcit atau Tesco/Giant;
3. free legal aid bukan peguam persendirian;
4. dll bantuan kerajaan (biasiswa, rumah mampu milik)
sudah pun dilakukan oleh golongan B40. Tetapi mereka masih dihimpit kenaikan kos sara hidup. Kepada yang kaya, makan sekali RM50 bukan masalah. Tetapi kepada yang miskin, RM5 sudah dikira banyak.
re: Today, we drive to klinik gomen, kena RM1 only.
Hello, kalau you dah kaya (ada maid di rumah, ada anak yang mungkin belajar/bekerja di Singapura dan tinggal di neighbourhood yang ada jiran apek ada 5 biji kereta import), janganlah tayang kekayaan you di sini. Buat apa you pergi klinik kerajaan? Tak boleh ke bagi peluang pada B40 menikmati kemudahan ini?
Baca survey berkaitan GST di mana rakyat dihimpit:
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/majority-of-malaysian-workforce-cant-cope-with-gst-survey-finds
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/1585275
Loss of RM60 x 12 plus sikit year end bonus gomen dah awal2 introduce BRIM to help these people.
….pi clinik pun bayar RM1 aje tau. Nak kena beli alat2 takde duit, hospital ada special unit to help them obtain funds. Warga Mas and OKU just check their benefits. Tak kira bangsa, Agama semua sama rata.
…Kedai 1Malaysia. Go shop there la..basic semua ada.
…Free legal aid
Lobster tu tak heran tau. Kampung2 poors fm interiors dapat free saja fresh udang galah. Berangan aje la makan lobsters. Tak banyak beza pun.
Apala you ni. My Apek neighbour ada 5 biji imported cars, hari2 condemn gomen jahat and Melayu enjoying tongkat sakti. Cuba you kira how much gomen is subsidicing their family on petrol consumption each month? They are getting bigger ‘tongkat’ compared to the poors – nak pakai motosikal pun tak mampu.
Apa lagi you tak puas hati, mai habaq sini!
What Kit Siang is telling that the Malays should gave more support to DAP if they want to have better and well organize government in the future.
Should the Malays throw their support behind DAP ?, well!, with what present UMNO leadership is doing ,there is much expected that the Malays will .
Many Malays are now feel ashamed of their Malay lead government .
No pity for LKS for singing the same old tunes, over and over again. Boring lah.
Your perjuangan is to take over this Tanah Melayu into a very liberal, Christian leaning and capitalist heaven.
And you think Melayus will want to go thru it all over again? Some, like your PAN President and his band of losers from PAS election will of course lick your arse-holes, but not the rest….
Maybe high time LKS should take a rest….and rest in peace, too
This old freak is business tak laku. Why is it that people continue to layan his cerita ? For hiburan ?
Ms H. Our venerable leader of the Singaporean Trojan Horse DAP who dreamt for 50 years could only produce 5 Fudges !
Lim Kit Siang is bluffing relentlessly to become Lee Kuan Yew. But anachronisms do not solve real world problems.
Jade Emperor, Your Majesty ! This venerable fellow was only a brief case carrying aide to his Boss when he was 26 years of age. Vide. The Boss Biography Vol. 1
Ms H. Irony of all ironies ! Is this venerable leader who perchance to dream for 50 years preparing his motley crew to join the BN in view of being kicked in the butt by the non-delusional Bilahari Kausikan (in Cantonese, ‘play the Devil to death’ and his dysfunctional crew ? In politics, a week is a long time ! Another 50 years perhaps ? What say ye all ye the die-hard tom-tom types ?
So Ah Wong has quit the GMM.
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016/01/12/key-figures-of-gmm-quit/
Cannot sit at the same table dengan ustaz. Ustaz = conservative Islam = extremist.
Now he’s no longer obliged to write nice things on the organization.
And another of their friend Lim Kok Wing.
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2016/01/12/many-dont-get-your-dress-sense-either-lim-kok-wing/
Roasted by remarks about David Bowie. hahaha
Wow. The Lim Kok Wing Bowie tweets are fun!
https://twitter.com/limkokwing/status/686567925117890560
When the critics come in, then the repartee.
https://twitter.com/limkokwing/status/686675380996943872
Then more.
https://twitter.com/limkokwing/status/686840742057095168
Even more
https://twitter.com/limkokwing/status/686846420482002944
He’s such an internet virgin, trying to reason with people who dropped rude comments. And it’s probably the same one guy who’s posting nasty comments under different pseudonyms. Lol.
He is the headmaster type, he thinks people have to be respectful to one another. Then there are Malaysians who are clueless as to what is really going on in the real world. It looks like only those who have a decent command of the English language know what is really happening in the real world. The SK with the Malay language, the SJKC and SJKT with Mandarin and Tamil respectively, they are clueless. Is it any wonder why ministers, the wealthy send their children to private and international schools ?
Article tu habaq…..It is understood that Wong and his fellow moderation partner Anas Zubedy will be focusing their resources on reaching out to Malay youths, especially in rural areas….
Apa depa ingat minda anak2 muda Melayu kampung kami lekeh sangat ke? Nenek kami dikampung pun cekap dgn facebook, blogging, WA dan chat dgn cucu2 depa sedunia 24/7 apakan lagi generasi muda.
Kena mendalam memahami AlQuran, kalau boleh amalkan moderasi in their own ways of life dulu jeh-bahl, then baru berangan nak pi ajaq anak-cucu2 oghang lain OK?.
Kalau sendiri jalan macam ketam buang masa saja masuk kampung nak ajaq generasi muda kami jalan straight?
I hope you are not that Malay guy posing as a Chinese girl. What a rubbish blog this is.
……Finally, Kit Siang wants the rakyat to “save Malaysia from the present national trajectories towards a failed and rogue state”….
Before 2008 kurang dengar semua nih.. After Pakatan took over few states (Perak kejap aje jadi rogue state when they added another ‘9’ jadi ‘999’ years pajakan hehehehe), and after tsunami MCA we started hearing “save Malaysia” bullshits.
Save Malaysia or save “Penang, Selangor and Kelantan?”. Mujuq lagi Perak dah dselamatkan!
Ms H. Here are the references to the venerable Opposition Leader’s 50 year long dream and his apparent angst as a SOCIAL WORKER.
1. Bilahari Kausikan ( in Cantonese, When you play the Devil to death ?) and his dysfunctional crew’s non-delusional opus published in the non-naive, unfriendly and inhospitable Straits Times Singapore ( as opposed to the naive, friendly and hospitable UMNO owned New Straits Times ) on 5 October 2015 with the delusional title, ‘ Singapore is not an island’ in which the ‘DELUSIONAL CHINESE’ were properly kicked in the butt.
2. Bilahari Kausikan. ” Lee Kuan Yew’s Legacy ” Forum at Fitzwilliam College, Cambridge 31 October 2015. In his speech of 6 pages, only one sentence is meaningful !
Helen,
Uncle Kit nak tambah lagi sebab dia suka chocolate fudge.
http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2016/01/14/pakatan-harapan-must-immediately-plan-to-win-back-the-perak-state-government-and-to-ensure-that-the-people-of-perak-are-not-denied-a-third-time-to-have-a-government-of-the-choice-of-the-majority-of-vo/
My reaction:
Please, please, please not my state, NOOOooooooooo
I actually wanted to link this:
http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2016/01/13/why-ibrahim-ali-did-not-find-me-objectionable-as-anti-malay-and-anti-islam-when-he-sought-my-help-in-the-seventies-to-escape-detention-under-isa-as-a-student-leader/#more-33920
He has such a sense of humour. LKS said because of Umno, it is now that he is suddenly anti-Malay, anti-Islam. Selama ni dia pekak ke buta?
I am Woman,
DAP is anti Malay, anti Islam. Period. As simple as that.
Anyone who is willing to listen, to observe and to be fair will see it. Some Malays choose to submit to DAP for personal reasons. and there are quite a number of Malays who feel “ashamed” as they feel race has no bearing in life.
Get real la
You don’t think I’m a fan of LKS, do you? lol
Anyway, the reason I follow LKS blog is to see what he spins and what issues they are going to play up. It’s an indicator of things to come.
Like right now, if you read his blog you will be thinking that we are in the midst of GE14 campaigning. He’s been writing non-stop about popular votes and how important it is to change the government in GE14.
His blog article today is about “Malaysia is seriously sick and the only way for the country to be healthy, vibrant and vigorous again and stop being the “Sick Man of ASEAN” is the cure of a change of government in the 14GE”.
It’s amazing how much campaign ground he’s covering since he’s on “vacation” from Parliament.
The DAP holy trinity:
What a collective piece of heavenly work.
He knows that if the oppo can’t get to Putrajaya in GE14 then that’s it for them. Game over. That’s why he’s still talking batshit. He will continue with his batshit until GE14. But from the looks of it, the oppo has no chance of getting to Putrajaya. This is not to say that they will not win the GE14. I actually believe they will win the GE but strange things have happened before.
Of course, just like a Snake-oil Salesman he will claim that you are sick and his oil will cure all the ills in the world.
I am woman,
I mean no disrespect. I apologize if you are hurt with my comment.
The political equation has changed. And the big change takes place when DAP, true to its character of wanting to overlord every other parties, unilaterally kicked PAS out PR.
And such act opens Malay eyes ( those who for reason known to them choose to be dictated by DAP) that DAP is ruthless. Finally it dawns to them that what UMNO has been warning about futility of PAS sleeping with DAP is actually is true after all.
PAS short of admitting the blunder of sleeping with the enemy realises that too. That explains the real reason Mohd Sabu was dumped out. and that too explains the reason PAS “soften” its stand towards UMNO.
DAP too underestimates PAS. DAP initially though Mohd Sabu can bring in the Malay votes. But it does not happen. No doubt many PAS MPs crossed over. But the reality is that they won the last election using PAS banner. Crossing over means huge number of malays who voted them in will no longer choose them in next election.
Without malay votes no way DAP or even PKR win big. Though the Chinese still today reject BN or UMNO, they will no longer whole heartedly support DAP again.
DAP I believe still has Chinese votes. But Chinese may not be that enthusiastic as they too may not want to be out of government next time around. Meaning some seats may actually return back to BN though I could not care less about it.
The truth is that no matter what Najib does or says, DAP hard core lovers will reject him. Even if World bank says Malaysian economy is stable though nothing spectacular, DAP will paint otherwise.
DAP will go on and on saying Malaysia is doomed. Kit siang will continue saying Malaysia is viewed negatively due to 1Mdb problem. Actually all countries are facing problems ranging from political turmoil, slowdown in Chinese demand, low oil price etc etc.
Diplomats will tell host countries about Malaysia. But nothing more. as long as the Malaysian government is perceived in control, all other countries will maintain ties and try their best to get construction contracts the way our corporate sectors winning a tender to build a highway in India or managing an airport in Turkey or managing Mekah Metro.
There is no denying Najib creates problems partly by over relying to paid consultants over timed tested competent civil service. AND THERE IS NO DENYING that an attack on Najib is actually an attack to overthrow UMNO.
Warts and all, it is the only humanly force standing between DAP and total control. I would think 100 times before kicking UMNO out.
No worries. No apologies necessary. You are entitled to your opinion; I do not take disagreements on politics personally. Too much stress over nothing.
But like him or hate him, I recommend you follow his writing. It is full of drama at times and (warped?) humor on other occasions and just full of entertainment value.
He has an opinion on everything, he complains a lot, offers no solutions that he can reveal until he’s in Putrajaya and finds fault with every Umno leader. Today he likened Idris Jusoh to Marie Antoinette as he “was sufficiently unsympathetic to the students’ problems as to approximate Marie Antoinette in callousness and indifference to social sufferings among the people.” Amazing!
re: “He has an opinion on everything, he complains a lot, offers no solutions that he can reveal until he’s in Putrajaya and finds fault with every Umno leader.”
His mentee the Tasmania reject is just like him.
She has an opinion on everything including the running of states outside of Selangor, complains a lot, offers no solutions until Malaysia becomes a righteous kingdom of God (and the DAP), and finds fault additionally with the MCA and Gerakan Youth leaders – particularly Tan Keng Liang.
I am Woman,
I call that “deflection”. He preaches on transparency, meritocracy when the concepts are alien in DAP. He chided long serving politicians from UMNO by reminding them when they will resign.
But he ignores the fact that UMNO has changes 5 Presidents . yet he is still there overlording DAP for the past 40 years.
As for his comparison Idris with Marie Antoinnette, Kit Siang must be crazy. I find Idris as soft spoken and humble leader. The right comparison would be Kit Siang is male version of marie ntoinette.
Kit siang behaves as if “Malaysia ni mak bapa dia yg punya”.
Efforts by the DAP to attract more Malays, Sabahans and Sarawakians to the party is meeting with some resistance from several DAP leaders and members who are not favourable to the idea, said party strategist Ong Kian Ming.
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Isn’t this is rather ironic coming from a party that claims to represent all Malaysians and colour-blind?
This clearly shows that DAP is a racist, anti-Malay/Islam party. And Ong Kian Ming admits this.
And OKM went from Gerakan to MCA before entering politics through DAP.
Lim Kit Siang’s failure to maintain POWER and his inability to widen the base of his operations even with his son Lim Guan Eng as the Minister of Finance, disappoints. He failed to match TDM’s manoeuvres and was caught flat-footed by going for the wrong target – POWER which he already had. . Lim a person who was once respected to be the one who could do something for all failed to deliver when at the height of his POWER being having his whole team and that of his best friend’s in the Cabinet headed by our political icon TDM. What failed Lim Kit Siang who used to be the King of the Hill but now turned out to be only a Knight in rusty armour ? Lim could have done nothing. He could have done everything in the Malaysian Politics Playbook, our revered Constitution by calming down his best friend. But what he was alleged to have done was actually a verboten option. With this act, the DAP was thrown out lock stock and barrel. So simple ! This shameful event was probably not foreseen or considered by Lim who must now take the blame for bad general-ship after 54 years at the helm. Lim now has no credibility or trustworthiness anymore in politics after leading the DAP into a disgraceful oblivion. The writing is already on the wall at the next GE for the DAP even without a young colonels’ revolt. Why vote DAP when they could not deliver EVEN IN POWER ?
Some readers must be wondering what is my stance ? The fact is I am a CONSTITUTIONALIST since 1954. NEVER A COMMUNALIST. I always support the incumbent Government of the day according to our revered CONSTITUTION as safeguarded by DYMM Yang Di Pertuan Agong and the Royal Sultans. I am a student of Malaysian Politics since 1954 especially the fables and foibles of its politicians. Tun Abdul Razak offered me the best exco State seat for a Chinese in 1969 – the Kuala Kubu seat. My advisers told me not to stand. I recommended Datuk Chan Keong Hon who won with only a majority of 450 votes which was 5,000 previously. In 1973, Tun Abdul Razak again offered me Tun Tan Siew Sin’s Federal Seat of Batu Berendum with the post of Deputy Minister of Finance.. I did not accept as my friends YBM Tengku Razaleigh and Tan Sri Lee San Choon were ready to go. Also, I prefer to deliver directly in a socio-economic way which was more effective. I delivered the horses, Sime Darby, Renong and many others. They never asked me, the trainer, how to ride them and ran all into the ground .through lack of discipline, self-indulgence and corruption. The Chinese delivered big-time – 1982-2020. If fellas don’t know how to ride. Don’t blame us !