Annie the middle-aged Malay male political reporter claims in his blogger profile to be a “little lady of the valley” employed in the “education” industry but “was on the ground there for the duration of the campaigning period” for the Sungai Limau by-election in late 2013.
The blogger Annie has repeatedly accused me of being a “DAP operative”. That’s an outright lie.
Protuns have no qualms whatsover fabricating stories just like how the Dapsters are so sneaky at concocting blatant lies. Annie, like the Dapsters, can simply say [boleh main cakap ikut suka].
BELOW: Taking the cue from Mama Dapster
There are no photographs of me at any DAP event or pictured with any DAP leaders because I don’t attend their party functions. I have never been involved with DAP in any way. I have never worked for any DAP leader.
I have never been a member of DAP or of any political party. I have never had any relationship with the DAP at all — zilch.
The sneaky bastards have been concocting stories to smear me like how they concoct stories to smear anyone critical of their Dear Leaders.
That’s what they do best. That’s how they got the 95 percent — through spinning and lying to promote hate. And now their target are the Protuns because the Chinese market is already maxed out.
Sidenote: I have never worked in the Malaysiakini office. In the past, the portal gave me a column, like how the NST gives Tunku Aziz a column. Tunku Aziz having a column in the NST does not mean that Tunku Aziz “works for” NST.
The Dapsters lie that I worked for Malaysiakini in order to try and tie me with the opposition.
Granted, my views were previously anti-establishment. But I soon realized that Umno is not half as bad as DAP. The DAP’s true colours as kaki buli began to show almost immediately after their spectacular victory in 2008 . See photo above — Kampung Buah Pala residents feel that the DAP sold them out
Malaysiakini axed my column when I began to get critical about the DAP, i.e. the tudung-wearing and Guan Eng’s anti-Hindraf stance. It seems that the editors in the portal’s Chinese language section were the ones most unhappy with me.
I was a researcher
Very recently, Annie put up a link to an older video of me. It can be heard quite clearly in the clip that I introduced myself to the reporters at the press conference, telling them my job was as a “researcher”.
The full extent of my “connection” to the DAP is only my act of pangkah Roket in the 2004 and 2008 general elections.
Oh ya, I once interviewed wunderkind Liew Chin Tong. I’ve also spoken to Teo Nie Ching before, I’ve heard Hannah Yeoh speak in public several times and I’ve questioned Guan Eng during open floor Q&A.
Around 2007-2010, I was in the NGO circuit. Many NGO events, including those by the Bar Council, are attended by the same crowd who staunchly support the opposition. The English and Chinese-speaking NGOs are, admittedly, pro-oppo.
I attended the Bersih 2.0 rally to show my support for the PSM people. Six of them had been arrested under the Emergency Ordinance, including Dr Jeyakumar (whom I had previously interviewed once). I also sympathized with his wife – a PSM exco – whose several articles I had processed for publication in a website.
I did not attend Bersih 3.0 because by then I was pretty convinced that the movement had deviated.
It is unfair to accuse me of “flip-flopping”
I changed my vote in 2013 to favour the BN.
How many of you have voted PAS/oppo before and switched to BN? Or voted Umno before and switched to oppo?
The ‘ubah’ message of the DAP is exactly that, i.e. asking voters to switch.
If MCA at the height of its popularity had commanded Chinese support in the high 40s percentage – see table above – then a significant number of Chinese (around 40 percent) have over the last eight years been successfully persuaded by the DAP to transfer their support to the opposition.
The only difference is that while the Chinese moved to the opposition en masse to effect the two tsunamis of 2008 and 2013, I moved in the opposite direction.
If I am to be accused of “flip-flopping”, then anyone who has ever shifted their vote between the two sides of the political divide stands to be accused of the same.
I withdrew my support for oppo because …
of they way they asyik kenakan orang.
The latest incident is the Anon and Alphabet Soup who are currently dominating Annie’s comment space. They keep repeating the same slurs against me. I’m sure discerning readers can sniff out that they’re the real Dapster operatives.
They recently accused me of spewing a “racist rant” against Indians.
They cited the story of a Chinese girl whose handphone was stolen. The girl had suspected it was an Indian who stole her phone. Although the thief is only one individual, the girl however ranted against the entire Indian community.
Anyone who has followed my blog knows that it is impossible that I would do such a thing (spew a racist rant against Indians). The episode, however, is real and the young Chinese woman who ranted is a blogger named Sammy. You can Google it.
What kind of people would deliberately invent lie to say that I was the blogger who ranted against Indians? A very malicious and sneaky kind of people — the Dapster operatives.
Hindraf had rebuked the blogger Sammy.
In my blog – as the archives would show – I have advocated for the Hindraf cause to help poor and marginalized Indians.
But do you know what sort of twisted story the Dapster operatives fabricated in Annie’s blog?
They said that I was being supportive of Hindraf only because I’m Sammy (blatant lie) and Hindraf threatened Sammy/me (another blatant lie). And so, to get into Hindraf’s good books because of the fallout from phone theft incident, I meeded to be nice to Hindraf (the Dapster warped version of their entire concocted storyline).
What kind of people are they?!
I really, truly think they’re dajjal.
The ultra kiasus can lie without batting an eyelid. And it was done in the most deliberate, calculated and sneaky manner by latching on to a truth, i.e. my empathy for the Hindraf cause.
I’m humbled and honoured that the Hindraf leaders had put their trust in me to advocate for them even though I’m not Indian.
The lie that the Dapster operatives concocted in Annie’s saying that Hindraf threatened me is vicious. They’ve concocted the most inventive (other) lies that had the potential of ruining my relationships with family and friends.
As one example, look at what they did to try and ruin Chew Mei Fun’s reputation. They spread the lie that she was having an affair with a married man. One innocent bloke who happened to be photographed beside YB Chew was fingered as her partner in adultery.
Now this was merely an out-and-out Dapster fitnah to help win the Kajang by-election (which Chew eventually lost).
What the Dapsters do to people!
Nonetheless, the Dapsters didn’t care if the man (in the group photo with YB Chew; the Dapsters cropped the pix to show only the two of them as a couple) might have a wife and kids who might have chanced across the malicious and false rumour the Dapsters spread about their husband/father.
The Dapsters are totally oblivious to about the devastating effect of their actions on people’s lives … as long as they’re able to spread hate and win through their politics of hate.
Dapsters are that kind of people – matlamat halalkan cara. Asalkan dapat memang. And they must win at all cost because they’re ultra kiasu. These people have no scruples whatsoever.
That’s why their RBA can blithely masquerade as Malays and Muslims.
BELOW: Kantoi! Imagine an RBA calling himself ‘Aku Melayu’ but not aware that the salutation for Allah is ‘swt’ and not ‘saw’

Protuns are like Dapsters, sama-sama no scruples
If the RBA have no scruples in masquerading as Malay and Muslim, the Protun pula puts on a charade as a mixed-race Chinese woman.
If Annie cannot even be truthful about the basics like his gender and his race, what credibility can you attach to the rest of what Annie says? His contrived, heartwarming grandmother stories are just a figment of the imagination, no?

Norman Fernandez also says Annie is “a fraudster” who will soon reinvent himself and shape-shift into another online persona
Annie was previously Bigcat.
BELOW: Norman says Annie is “a fraud”

The lies that the Protuns have been telling have been exposed by Lim Sian See, Gopal Raj Kumar, A Voice (Brick in the Wall), Big Dog, Azmi Arshad, Rahmat Omar, Rocky and many others.
You can detect Annie’s lies through the inherent contradictions in the Life of Annie blog. Like Annie said he would stop blogging about politics but he still does so albeit tangentially. Annie said he would stop mentioning me but he has dedicated his blog to become a daily hate site against me.
Contradiction is cakap tak serupa bikin. Annie pretended to be ‘nice’ by three times asking his readers not to leave any negative personal comments against me (itu sekadar Annie cakap).
Apa Annie bikin was to link and promote the writings of a Cina ultra blogger who is on a smear campaign against me. (Yes, they hate us the 5 percent for going against the current). Annie’s actions do not match Annie’s words about “neutrality” and “peace”.
It should not surprise anyone that the Protuns are willing to be in cahoots with the Dapsters. After all, Tun himself showed leadership by example in joining the Bersih 4.0 rally.
Everybody already has a fair idea of the kind of fitnah which the Dapsters are capable of.
If you examine the conduct of Annie, you can see the malice inherent in the Protuns. They’re hand in glove with the oppo now — you’d better believe it.
ms Helen.
u hv quoted me several times wth regards 2 yr misunderstanding wth this blogger ‘Annie’.
again I wil like 2 reiterate that I m neither ‘protun’ nor ‘projib’.
as I hv stressed many times in this blog, I M PRO TRUTH.
insya’allah, I will try 2 remain this way at all times.
When people have already made up their mind, then ‘Truth’ is in the eye of the beholder.
I’m not referring to you specifically but making a general statement about Dapsters and Protuns.
in that case all things can b in d eyes of d beholder including ‘lies’
wallahi ! there can b hundreds of lies being expounded abt n issue but eventually truth will conquer them all.
Unfortunately there’s the Orwellian twist, like the example I gave of how native Americans have been successfully portrayed by Hollywood movies as the bad guy Red Indian, and the white settlers and cowboys as heroes even though they evicted the original First Peoples from the land..
It’s the war of perception. DAP is winning this war because they’re willing to keep lying, and lying, and lying non-stop. Even on CNY eve, the Dapster cytros are smearing me in Annie’s blog.
Malays are losing because they have the concept of fitnah itu dosa. And Malays takut pada akhirat.
I just wished d s liow toing lai . he replied n wants 2 meet me after Chinese new yr. for goodness sake ! let us do something 2 bring back d Chinese support towards BN.
I had this idea since mid 2014. God willing, lets hope it will work.
Pemimpin MCA kena jujur dengan jujur dengan diri sendiri dan bangsa Cina. Jangan takutkan katakan yang benar walaupun pahit. MCA kalau duk asyik main linggo DAP sampai bila pun akan ditolak. Melayu kena mula tolak MCA. Kerusi majoriti Melayu, UMNO jangan bagi kat MCA lagi! MCA kena amalkan meritokrasi dan hentikan subsidi mentaliti already.
The current going on is getting ugly, don’t you think, almost like a war, reminds me of that quote regarding truth and war.
There is only one absolute truth.
Everybody dies.
The rest are what people choose to believe in based on things like emotions and evidence.
I resigned myself to accept I would never know the real facts behind most things. It’s depressing at times, but most of the time i just go on living my life.
When dealing and trying to figure out people I always like to know about their motives and methods. Sometimes they are admirable, sometimes they put me off. When it come to Malaysian politics in my opinion other than racial and religion based, it’s just a lucrative field to cari makan for some people and their friends and families. So I usually don’t like to get too attached or to dislike anyone too much, also every time somebody uses words like for the rakyat or some other idealistic thing I tend to be very cynical.
Don’t know any politicians personally, the few I met in person seems to have their fortunes drop afterwards, it’s some weird coincidence.
Helen, this write up was referred by Annie’s blog.
https://shuzheng.wordpress.com/2016/01/31/ultra-confessions/
I am not sure what is written there is exactly true.
If not then i think it is not fair to you!
Gomez,
Shuzheng, by Annie’s own admission, is a “Chinese ultra”. He’s an academician in his 60s and his writings are as ugly as his nervous tic.
I would categorize Shuzheng as a hate site. His tirades against Islam and the Malays are dripping with venom.
Aside from politicians, he’s got a lot of hate targets – RPK, Rocky, SAA, Apanama, Josh Hong (a long list). Even my regular commenter Shamshul Anuar is in Shuzheng’s gunsight.
And this is the blog that Annie is actively promoting and repeatedly linking.
That ‘Chinese’ ultra hates just about everyone. He thinks he’s above everyone else. His hanzi is the cut and paste variety. Repeatedly identifying himself as ‘Chinese’ yet he has to use the white man’s language to express himself. Truly ‘Chinese’ indeed.
He hates Anglo Malaysians. WIT, kau pun sama la tu!
Helen, keep on writing and keep exposing them to the core. We like the way you write and the stats that you showed are all backed by factual data and analysis. Dont you stop, dear.
I used to read that Annie blog but quit after a while as I found it to be utterly boring; devoid of substance and intelligence. I shared this story with my bff over breakfast this morning and she said she posted comments on Annie’s blog several times but never got published because her comments were critical of “him” and she even challenged her to reveal her true identity.
Don’t worry Helen, just move on… as my boss always say: ” We cannot idiot-proof everything… no matter how good you did, they will always be an idiot out there. “:)
Shuzheng is spot on about you.
You are one miserable cunt.
When did you find out Annie was a Malay guy? Have you met him/her/it in real life? If what he/she /it writes is nonsense why are you so bothered about it?
Because he is slandering me. Are you okay with people slandering you? You will be unbothered and you will keep quiet?
But you had previously recommended his blog to your readers. If you knew that he is a man wasn’t it also deceitful of you to refer to him as a female in your previous recommendation?
And if he/she is slandering you why not take it to the courts?
(1) At that time, I did not know.
(2) He is very sneaky. He’s a cowardly Anon who refers to me as ‘Ah Soh’ and other demeaning name-calling, but not by ‘Helen Ang’.
Helen,
Could you PLEASE provide us with your own proof beyond reasonable doubt that Annie is an imposter as you claimed? Your claim is based on quotes from other commenters that you picked up.
Or else, you are just the in same boat with the people you hate who spread fitnah about their enemies. You should based your claim about Annie being a Malay guy, on facts, something you’ve been doing in your blogs when you presented your arguments.
I’m also beginning to doubt Annie’s authenticity when she(he?) consistently ignored my queries about her true identity. But there’s not much doubt about her knowledge about UMNO Johore politics as she wrote in her blogs since we could easily verify her stories. Why the mystery behind the real identity is for her to tell the readers.
I remember clearly that you took the first pot shot at her when you disagreed with her writing. And you increased your attacks against her lately when you accused her for colluding with DAP sympathisers and Protuns. I thought you just couldn’t handle differences of opinions, but somehow it turned out to be more than that, it turned to personal attacks. I don’t fault her for returning the same “favours” to you.
Now tell me what exactly that got on your nerves, about Annie?
1) that she is an imposter?
2) that she doesn’t agree with you all the time (I don’t agree with you all the times also)?
3) that she sleeps with your enemies; the dajjal DAP and proTubs?
4) that she turned the canon to you and shot back at you (after all you started the fight with her)?
Get it all out of your chest, so that you can have a relaxing and peaceful Chinese New Year celebration!
re: “Could you PLEASE provide us with your own proof beyond reasonable doubt that Annie is an imposter as you claimed?”
Why should you believe in the persona that Annie has created? Has Annie provided any proof? No picture profile as avatar. No photos of Annie himself. No photo of grandpa, only of grandpa’s pineapple.
re: “Your claim is based on quotes from other commenters that you picked up.”
Why should Syed Akbar lie? After all, he and Annie are on the same side, i.e. Protun.
re: “Or else, you are just the in same boat with the people you hate who spread fitnah about their enemies.”
It is Protuns who are in the same boat as Dapsters.
re: “You should based your claim about Annie being a Malay guy, on facts, something you’ve been doing in your blogs when you presented your arguments.”
You can put Annie through the test of inherent logic. For example, it is inherently illogical to claim that phantom voters were sent to Subang Jaya, simply because Hannah Yeoh won with such a whopping majority (close to 30k votes) that it makes no sense to believe that a few busloads of PVs would make any difference to the SJ result.
You don’t need the police and the Election Commission to inform you in particular that there were no phantom voters in SJ. Likewise Annie’s many grandmother stories cannot pass the sniff test if you apply it on your own (you don’t need proof from me).
re: “I’m also beginning to doubt Annie’s authenticity when she(he?) consistently ignored my queries about her true identity.”
Annie is ignoring because it is fudge that he knows he cannot get away with because too many people (Umno bloggers, editors, Media Prima bosses, pol-secs and press secs) are in the know. Ask you contacts/network point blank. I doubt that any one of them would bother to cover up for Annie now because Annie’s cuba tegakkan benang basah is getting too jijik.
Like one commenter Hasan said, it’s “geli” when guys really think about it after Annie’s cover is blown.
re: “But there’s not much doubt about her knowledge about UMNO Johore politics as she wrote in her blogs since we could easily verify her stories.”
Norman Fernandez has confirmed that Annie is a man. Norman is the former DAP chairman in J-O-H-O-R.
re: “Why the mystery behind the real identity is for her to tell the readers.”
Annie’s identity as in his name is no issue at all.
It’s the niat of the masquerade. What would you think of a middle-aged man if he were to pretend online to be a young teenager who’s befriending pre-pubescent girls? Would you not fear that he is a pedophile?
It’s the intention of the charade you must figure out. Even if Annie’s name is leaked (and it was by one of SAA’s commenters), it’s no big deal. The “mystery” is not the name (say, Kagum bin Ajaib) but the question why would a middle-aged political male blogger masquerade as an attractive young woman?
re: “I remember clearly that you took the first pot shot at her when you disagreed with her writing.”
Wrong! Annie took the first pot shot at me with the headline Sister Helen is “angry”. Merepek tu. Annie said I was angry that Annie said Tun was handsome. What bollocks.
re: “And you increased your attacks against her lately when you accused her for colluding with DAP sympathisers and Protuns.”
It was Annie who ramped up his attacks with “smelly” and accusing me of being a “former DAP operative” coupled with “Trojan horse” which is are blatant and complete lies.
re: “I thought you just couldn’t handle differences of opinions”
Why should you think that I could not handle differences of opinions when you yourself have had robust differences of opinions with me through the last several years?
re: “but somehow it turned out to be more than that, it turned to personal attacks”
Annie is not professional. Annie lies and hits below the belt with complete malice. I do not quarrel with the other Protun bloggers like SAA, Din Turtle, JMD, Apanama, etc.
re: “I don’t fault her for returning the same ‘favours’ to you.”
Then why should the pentaksub Tun fault me for returning the same favours to Annie?
Is it because they believe Annie is the younger, slimmer and more ‘cun’ looking woman? Annie is not young, Annie is not slim and Annie is not a woman.
Imagine the Annie fan club having red-blooded male fantasies of a cute “Little Lady of the Valley” … Hahaha, PROFILE: Likes K-Pop, Japanese anime and Chinese movies …
Most certainly the pentaksub Tun are not smart. Bodoh sombong people can be a menace. In this case, these bodoh sombongs are a threat to the BN in GE14.
re: “Now tell me what exactly that got on your nerves, about Annie? 1) that she is an imposter?
That he memfitnah, and he is petty and malicious. And faking.
re: “that she doesn’t agree with you all the time (I don’t agree with you all the times also)?”
Since you already know that you disagree with me vehemently over so many issues, and all your comments were allowed through, why should you think that I’m unable to handle disagreements of opinion over Johor politics with Annie?
Do I sound like I’m someone obsessed or having any deep interest over Johor politics? No, right? I simply presented a set of data over Johor election results. That’s what the statistics say. that’s all. You’re free to agree or disagree. It was Annie who went ballistic due to his big ego that he must be Umno’s unchallenged No.1 media pundit on the state.
It’s not difference that I don’t condone, it’s the putar-belit and especially when the intention is to kenakan orang.
re: “that she sleeps with your enemies; the dajjal DAP and proTubs?”
So you agree that a Protun is sleeping with the enemy?
re: “that she turned the canon to you and shot back at you (after all you started the fight with her)?”
It was Annie who started the fight and invited his readers to diss me. You can easily compare: How many of my readers make personal attacks on Annie (answer: none) in contrast to how many of Annie’s readers make personal attacks on me (answer: it’s a daily bloodsport in Annie’s blog for the DAP cytros).
Takkan you tak perasan this, Setem? Be honest. This illustration is an example of what I’ve suggested for you to put to the test – the inherent contradiction in Annie’s blog and whether cakap ada serupa bikin.
Annie even went to the extent of creating a popularity poll (see
herhis answer option number (4) to try and validate himself.re: “Get it all out of your chest, so that you can have a relaxing and peaceful Chinese New Year celebration!”
We will have a peaceful and harmonious country only when the threat of the Dapsters taking over Putrajaya has been crushed. Any country with so many dajjals running loose cannot be safe nor peaceful.
CORRECTION:
Norman is the former DEPUTY DAP chairman in Johor.
Dear Helen.
I agree with you that:-
“Dapsters are that kind of people – matlamat halalkan cara. Asalkan dapat memang. And they must win at all cost because they’re ultra kiasu. These people have no scruples whatsoever.”
“The ultra kiasus can lie without batting an eyelid.”
‘Vinnan’ is another example. He was actually Chinese. His bluff was revealed after he wrote ‘Laja’ instead of ‘Raja’ when venting displeasure against Malay Ruler. Guess you might have difficulties pronouncing R? By using an Indian name, obviously he was instigating animosity between Malays & Indians, just when Indians voters seems to favor BN. That as after Kg.Buah Pala incident.
I think you’ve gone too far by clamoring, “They’re hand in glove with the oppo now — you’d better believe it.”
I supported Najib during GE13, May 2013. Dr.M too, then. It was only after last UMNO election, Dec 2013 that I started to hate Najib. And that was before the exposure of RM2.6 Billion & RM2 million in his/Rosmah’s personal account. His penchant for utilizing middlemen (Razak Baginda, deepak, Jho Low) to nego on behalf of the Gomen/Rakyat are disgusting and runs counter to KPDNKK’s Jihad Memerangi Orang-tengah. There’re more, but after the ouster of Mukhriz, I’ve burnt the brige with Najib’s UMNO. However, I’ll never give my vote to DAP, PAN or PKR. Contemplating, giving it to PAS, unless Najib goes.
Therefore, calling your readers to ‘believe’ what you insinuated as Protuns, ” are hand in glove with the oppo now — you’d better believe it.” was out of line and unjustifiable.
Dr.M’s showing-up at Bersih does not mean he’s in cahorts or supporting DAP and the opposition. If he had not, that Bersih rally would be completely a Chinese affair against a Malay led gomen. At-least, the Malays are somewhat, taken aback after Dr.M showed-up twice. If he had not, that Baju-Merah’s turn-out, might be bigger than it was. Pocket-money not withstanding.
Did you saw any Chinese in Baju-Merah’s rally? Who do you think those ‘Baju-Merahs’ are supporting? You support these show of ‘strength’, just like the run-up to May 13, 1969?
And your ‘squabble’ with Annie is appalling. For all I know, Annie was against anyone ridiculing you in her blog. And that was before you accused her of being a he.
Did you really know her or him, personally? Why must you believe what people say about Annie in the internet? Gullible, no?
At-least those racist on both the divide, had reservation in their minds that, there are half-breeds among them who could not take sides in Malay-Chinese bashing/clash.
What’s wrong about Annie being neutral, anyway? Why must you take a ‘with me or against me’ stance, which does not bring any good to UMNO or BN?
re: “For all I know, Annie was against anyone ridiculing you in her blog.
‘His’ blog. “Annie was against anyone ridiculing” me — Not true.
He (Annie) has been promoting links to a hate site administered by a Chinese ultra who not disparages me but mocked my late mother and made up false stories about my long deceased grandmother.
You follow my blog. You know that I do not blog about my family. There’s no reason for the Chinese ultra to take his vendetta to the extent of deriding my mother and my grandmother who have already passed away many years and have nothing to do with Malaysian politics. That’s the kind of people they are.
re: “And that was before you accused her of being a he.”
The expose was done by Syed Akbar Ali. Now I and Norman Fernandez and SAA’s readers (in his blog) confirmed it.
re: “Did you really know her or him, personally?”
Yes.
re: “Why must you believe what people say about Annie in the internet? Gullible, no?”
It is Annie’s readers who are gullible. Like Norman said, the Pak Haji who calls Annie “adinda” is one example. It is Annie’s readers who so easily believe the crap in the Internet, such as the lie that Hindraf threatened me.
The warm relationship that I have with Hindraf could not have arisen from threats. It was based on trust and empathy.
re: “At-least those racist on both the divide, had reservation in their minds that, there are half-breeds among them who could not take sides in Malay-Chinese bashing/clash.”
If you have not seen Annie personally – and the blogger uses a cartoon avatar (not a real face) – plus Annie has not published photos of himself, and you do not even know Annie’s full Malay name … then why should you believe Annie’s claim that he is kacukan?
Norman said “Annie a Chinese woman? My arse!”
re: “What’s wrong about Annie being neutral, anyway?”
The Protuns are not neutral. They threw the Projibs off their blogrolls.
re: “Why must you take a ‘with me or against me’ stance”
Because there is only going to be one winner in GE14 – either it’s BN led by Umno or New Hope led by DAP.
re: “which does not bring any good to UMNO or BN?”
In the current situation, it is Tun who is not bringing any good to Umno or BN. Tun attacks Najib more than Tony Pua, Rafizi and Lim Kit Siang combined whereas Wan Azizah and Azmin hardly attack BN at all.
‘The Protuns are not neutral. They threw the Projibs off their blogrolls.’
Perhaps Annie exclusively. Tapi bukan semua Helen. Blogrolls Melayu divided into news sokong Tun dan sokong Najib. They are so tidak apa, they don’t bother to UBAH their used to be kawan2 lists.
Helen,
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“re: “Did you really know her or him, personally?”
Yes
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So, you knew Annie was a man all along?
Even when you were giving credit to the articles in her/his blog?
You mean, you were part and parcel of the deception???
Interesting.
Not all along. At some point along the way.
I doubt that SAA, who exposed him, knew that Annie was ‘Ai’ from as early as the Bigcat days.
How many people you think knew from the very start that LSS was a man? Not many, I reckon.
Helen,
re: “Not all along. At some point along the way.”
Oh, I see.
So, when you first met Annie, you did not really she/he was a man.
OK. :)
Helen, SAA quoted someone else when he said Annie was a man. I don’t think he has ever said that he knows Annie is a man.
To be clearer, it would appear that you have relied on the claims of one of your commentors who said SAA confirmed that Annie is a man. This is just hearsay evidence. Unless SAA himself says that he knows Annie in a man I don’t really know whom to believe.
I’m not relying on Syed Akbar Ali’s hearsay. Although I did not know at first that the man whom I was introduced to was operating the blog Life of Annie, later I found out.
It’s like I did not know that DAP could be so bad when I voted for the party in 2004 and 2008, but by around 2009 I began to see the party’s true colours and so I voted BN in 2013.
As other readers, incl. An Ordinary Malaysian has highlighted, Annie wrote in his blog that he has met me several times. I’m not relying on what SAA or Norman Fernandez is saying. I know. Many people know.
I’ve already challenged many times.
GO AND ASK KHALED NORDIN’S BOYS WHO ANNIE ANAKIN IS AND WHAT HE WANTED FROM THEM.
Ask the Umno bloggers. They know.
Ask the Ministry press secretaries and political secretaries. They know.
Ask the Media Prima senior execs. They know.
Ask the NST editors. They know.
If you have contacts in the PMO, you can ask them too.
If you don’t know how to find out, then you don’t have the political contacts or networking to help you make an informed decision. You can believe whatever you want to believe. Nobody can help your cluelessness.
RD, I agree with you except that despite Najib’s blunder in 1MDB, I still support UMNO and BN.
Helen, why don’t you reveal the true identity of Annie? What’s stopping you from doing that?
I already said, Annie can be Kagum bin Ajaib or Pelik bin Heran. Even if I told you, it doesn’t matter. His Malay male name is not the issue.
It’s his bizarre bermati-matian mahu juga tegakkan benang basah. That’s so very ultra kiasu — just like a Dapster.
Helen
Back in 2013 were you and Rocky aware of Annie’s true identity when both of you gave prominence and pimping to a new blog called ‘Life of Annie’?
I am asking because this is important.
If Rocky and you knew the blogger’s identity back then, to chastise Annie’s deceit today is moot when it is acceptable for you to pull a fast one over your readers when Annie was ‘se-hala’ with your objectives.
If you were not aware, then I rest my case.
I wasn’t aware then.
Helen,
re: “I wasn’t aware then.”
But you have met her after that during your pow-wows with other pro-UMNO bloggers :)
And you did not realise Annie was actually a man when you first met her/him :)
And you continued to promote his/her blog :)
When I was introduced to Annie, I was told the blogger’s (male and real) name, matching his male appearance :)
I was however not told his blog was called Life of Annie, so there’s no big mystery to the situation :)
Annie’s name has already been revealed/exposed in SAA’s blog. You must have missed it. :)
But unfortunately for you, SAA deletes his posts, so you can’t refer back to his archives :) :) :)
Helen,
Thank you for your explanation.
It is quite unbelievable that one could be introduced to another blogger without asking for verification like what is the name of the blog.
Like most Malaysians nowadays, I am becoming very skeptical of what political writers tell me is the truth :)
As far as I am aware, SAA has not named the blogger but then as you have said, SAA “deletes” his articles.
You may be interested to know that they are not “deleted, merely “switched off”, and there are privately held archives of SAA’s articles from when he began his “switching off” trick :)
Anyway, thank you for your explanations thus far.
re: “It is quite unbelievable that one could be introduced to another blogger without asking for verification like what is the name of the blog.”
Of course, it’s the most natural question to ask. But you can’t put a gun to the other person’s head to make him answer truthfully.
e.g. Say Raja Petra introduced us to each other.
So there. Upon being introduced to you, I’m asking for your job verification. Are you telling us? Nope, right? You’re not even using a name. And I can’t compel you to provide a more specific moniker than your generic “An Ordinary Malaysian”.
Hence, even if it was you who were introduced to him, would you be able to compel Encik ******* ******* to reveal to you that the name of his blog is Life of Annie?
And in any case, as I’ve been saying, Annie is a compulsive liar.
Below is a print screen of his Blogspot profile: (Note: Annie became very swollen headed after gaining popularity – Annie’s profile has been viewed close to 16k times!)
Annie claimed in his Blogger biodata that he works in the “education” industry and his occupation is as an “educator”.
Those of us know Annie’s identity – like Norman Fernandez (his comment here) – state that Annie is a reporter.
Judging from Annie’s blog content, which is more likely (a) “Little Lady of the Valley” an “educator” or (b) Annie the political journalist ex- NST, a company belonging to Media Prima which is under the control of Umno?
So you see, since Annie lies – as above – he could easily have fobbed off my question (what’s your work, what’s your blog?) with a yet another fake detail.
re: “Like most Malaysians nowadays, I am becoming very skeptical of what political writers tell me is the truth”
I’ve already suggested to use the internal logic and consistency test, e.g. Were there phantom voters in Subang Jaya? Logically no, ‘cos it’s an oppo stronghold where HY won with a majority of close to 30k votes and a few busloads of PVs wouldn’t make any difference at all.
Annie recently put a link in his blog to a video of me addressing a press conference. I’d introduced myself as a “researcher” to the reporters present.
Now, you can check for the internal consistency between my claim and my track record. I’ve got close to five years of archives in this blog. Is my output consistent with someone who does research?
re: “As far as I am aware, SAA has not named the blogger but then as you have said, SAA “deletes” his articles.”
Annie responded to SAA’s expose – “he [Syed] accused me of some nonsense in his blog … The guy can be quite a bastard”.
See Annie’s posting screenshot below, http://lifeofaannie.blogspot.com/2016/01/about-outsyedthebox.html.
re: “You may be interested to know that they are not ‘deleted, merely ‘switched off’…”
Regardless. Datuk Rahman contacted SAA, and “he confirmed that that blog owner ‘annie’ is actually a man”. There’s no issue. Syed Akbar stands by his expose.
https://helenang.wordpress.com/2016/01/31/perpaduan-ummah-is-the-most-important-objective-now/#comment-167981
re: “Anyway, thank you for your explanations thus far.”
I’ve explained because I’m telling the truth.
However, I don’t find you as someone interested in an honest discourse. The way you frame your loaded comments, bracketed with your smug smileys only signal an agent provocateur trying to cast doubt and aspersions.
There are several reasons why I like / prefer BN people. You’re one illustration of why I dislike pro-Pakatan people.
Helen,
re: “However, I don’t find you as someone interested in an honest discourse.”
You may say that you are being honest but the reality is that it is up to others to decide.
I find that many Malaysians have a propensity to make claims about themselves – “I am an expert”, “I am a good person”, “I am an honest person” :)
If doubts are raised in a discussion, it is because explanations have not been understood either because you have not explained it well, or that I am too dumb to understand your explanations.
You may consider my comments to be loaded but I consider my comments to structured in such a way that you have some wiggle room if you choose to take that path :)
After all, it is your blog and I don’t want you to jatuh muka in your own blog, hence the wiggle room.
You are right in a sort of way – I am a disgusting filthy flip-flopping voter :)
I am universally hated by all political parties because they cannot control how I vote.
I will vote who I please.
I don’t blame you for disliking me because there is very little you can say or do to make me vote one way or another :)
You, as a political writer for the incumbent BN government, can only, at best, give me your views on why I should give my vote to BN.
Don’t feel bad, though.
Pro-Pakatan supporters have exactly the same problems as you do. :)
I grant that, at the present moment, pro-Pakatan supporters have an easier task convincing me because, to me, there is compelling independent third-party evidence, that I should support calls for a cleaner and more transparent Government.
I take it that in general you support the concept of a cleaner and more transparent Government?
re: “You may say that you are being honest but the reality is that it is up to others to decide.”
The emphasis is not on my own ‘pious’ virtues. I’m highlighting your high nuisance value.
re: “I find that many Malaysians have a propensity to make claims about themselves – ‘I am an expert’, ‘I am a good person’, ‘I am an honest person’ :)
I find that many Malaysians who support DAP have a propensity to make a nuisance of themselves.
re: “If doubts are raised in a discussion, it is because explanations have not been understood”
Nope, it is because it’s the job of RBAs, e.g. like ‘Cik Kiah’, who have a deliberate agenda (Cik Kiah, for example) who has been blitzing blogosphere to try and spark a run on Tabung Haji.
Disclaimer: I’m not calling you an RBA. I’m calling Cik Kiah one.
re: “either because you have not explained it well, or that I am too dumb to understand your explanations”
It’s the latter reason, most definitely. That’s why all your retarded grins (the OD on smiley emoticons).
re: “You may consider my comments to be loaded but I consider my comments to structured in such a way that you have some wiggle room if you choose to take that path”
Your comment are structured in such a way that you’re allowing yourself more wiggle room to move left, right and centre, and further aggravate.
re: “After all, it is your blog and I don’t want you to jatuh muka in your own blog, hence the wiggle room.”
It’s my blog and as several regular readers have already commented, my blog is in Komtar’s gunsight.
re: “You are right in a sort of way – I am a disgusting filthy flip-flopping voter”
Whatever.
re: “I am universally hated by all political parties because they cannot control how I vote”
Not all votes are of the same value. If you’re registered in Seputeh, Cheras, Kepong or Subang Jaya, the BN parties don’t give a toss unless you transfer address to Bentong or Labis.
re: “I will vote who I please.”
Whatever.
re: “I don’t blame you for disliking me because there is very little you can say or do to make me vote one way or another”
It’s not your vote I’m concerned about. It’s your village that is the worry. They’re desperately searching for their idiot who wandered off.
re: “You, as a political writer for the incumbent BN government, can only, at best, give me your views on why I should give my vote to BN.”
The crux of the issue is not BN. It’s that the DAP is dajjal and we don’t want our country to fall into the hands of the Bintang Lima.
re: “Don’t feel bad, though.”
I feel fine. You should go home. Your village is looking for you.
re: “I grant that, at the present moment, pro-Pakatan supporters have an easier task convincing me …”
They’re piling on sneaky lies and mindless hate.
re: “I take it that in general you support the concept of a cleaner and more transparent Government?”
The concept of a cleaner and more transparent government does not square with DAP.
Dajjal means the Great Deceiver. The lifeblood of the dajjal is lies.
RD,
I’ve written several times to Annie asking for the truth whether she is actually a middle aged Malay man but none got posted. Why? I also used to be Tun M’s diehard supporter but not anymore. RPK has exposed a lot of Tun M’s many wrong doings including that he gave billions of RM to bail out Chinese companies (his cronies) but ciput to bail out Malay companies during the economic crisis. I will support Najib not because I like him but because he is the head/president of UMNO and the current PM. What DAP wants is for the Malays to be divided into smaller fractions because as we become smaller, we don’t have the strength while more than 95% Chinese are still solidly behind DAP. PAS is a good party but on its own cannot fight DAP as DAP plays dirty. Just think about it!
Why can’t UMNO, without Najib, fight DAP?
Was it because Najib also knows how to play ‘dirty’ like DAP? What if some wealthy businessman in Taiwan gives ‘derma’ in Guan Eng’s personal account? Would be charge by the AG, of-course upon MACC recommendation.
If “we don’t have the strength” why must we shoo-off those who are Protuns and those on-the-fence, like Annie?
Surely, UMNO cannot be just about Najib. Hence the ouster of Mukhriz; I cannot comprehend why it could make UMNO any stronger.
http://www.malaysia-today.net/those-who-say-they-are-neutral-are-frauds/
Thanks Helen. I’ve read that anyway.
To honest people like me, all I want is the truth. Paying billions of Rakyat’s money to middleman, such as Jho Low and Razak Baginda, doesn’t bode well, in terms of integrity. Credibility too. Hence that neutral stance.
I use to hate RPK, but that was when he made a SD, accusing Rosmah was at the scene where Altantuya was C4ed. Well, it must be ok, if RPK comes home, now.
Recently, RPK wrote that Najib, sort of ‘hit two birds with one stone’ with Muhkriz ouster. However, Salleh Syed Kruak said Najib was not involved in Kedah’s MB saga. Who are we suppose to believe? Both seems to be working very hard, to safeguard Najib’s ass.
Achilles heel of our PMs:
(1) Tunku – his ‘Happy Prince’ lifestyle and his Chinese friends
(2) Tun Razak – his health (leukemia)
(3) Tun Hussein Onn – known for his impeccable integrity but being a thin-skinned gentleman (just like his father Dato’ Onn) is probably a human virtue that is unfortunately a drawback in the cutthroat world of politics
(4) The Tun of Tuns – his billionaire sons and the bailouts of cronies
(5) Tun Dol – KJ & the 4th Floor Boys
(6) Datuk Seri Najib – Rosmah & as you say, the middlemen
No.4 helped the oppo knock No.5 off his perch. This opening the floodgates made Umno-BN vulnerable after losing its 2/3 majority.
No.6 is probably the most vulnerable incumbent after losing the popular vote.
To borrow your phrase “safeguarding Najib” is necessary to safeguard the position of Umno to safeguard this land as Muslim.
Can you see why Najib has to be a war general? In war there will, alas, have to be collateral damage.
Don’t forget that Number (6) also had a big hand in kicking out Number (5) so that Number (6) can get keys to the executive toilet. If Number (4) doing that to Number (5) opened the floodgates and made BN weaker, then Number (6) should have known enough to say no.
But of course, Number (6) didn’t. So much for integrity.
Can you point me to a write-up (give us the article url, pls) that says No.6 plotted against No.5?
That No.4 threw a tantrum is fact – he cut his Umno membership card in half.
And he went on air in the BBC Hardtalk interview vowing that as a physician, his prescription is to amputate the patient (Umno) of its gangrenous leg (Sleepy Dollah) even without anesthesia if he must.
There has not been a single sovereign loan taken out by Malaysia or any other nation that is free from the intercession of middle men. Thats how the system works, Australia today has a prime minister that made his millions as a middle man with Goldman Sachs. The Whitlam government in Australia got into trouble with a middleman from Pakistan living in London by the name of Tirath Khemlani. He brought the Whitlam government down following a similar ‘riot’ as that which surrounds the Saudi loan and the 1MDB Jho Lo revelation. Nothing wrong with middlemen.
It is quite clear from the methods being used that Australians are behind the efforts to destabilise government in Malaysia in furtherance of John Howards great plan to break up Indonesia and south east Asia into small manageable states and create an Anglosphere in the region.
Australia he said would play “deputy Sheriff” to the USA.
But with the likes of Ambiga “Ammah” Mariah Chin Abdullah and the Malaysian Bar, the opposition would be lucky enough to launch Malaysia’s first locally produced children’s bedtime stories.
They have no strategy, no plan, no policies and no hope.
Thanks GRK.
So there nothing wrong, anywhere on planet earth about “the intercession of middle men” in government’s sovereign loan. Coming from a lawyer, that’s quite refreshing. But, Razak Baginda, Deepak Carpet and Jho Low have nothing to do with sovereign loan.
Still, its a bad precedent set by Najib. That ‘donation’ into personal account too.
For you, RD.
Tolong baca, https://helenang.wordpress.com/2014/11/01/maid-abusers-and-their-most-astounding-saka/
So what are you going to do about it then? what law are you going to charge him for breaching? We are dealing with one country and its laws, not the entire planet earth.
What if I placed money into your personal account instead of into your business account? what control have you over what I do? It happens every day.
What purpose does it serve keep looking for problems where none exist?
Your ignorance and your terribly simplistic mind like that of those others here who keep pursuing this matter is not the problem of a more sophisticated element of society like those who educate themselves about these things.
An ignorant man can only enlighten himself when he chooses to change.
Don’t scour the earth, begin with understanding your own backyard first.
“What if I placed money into your personal account instead of into your business account? what control have you over what I do? It happens every day.”
sure happens every day? no control? really?
Yep no control really. Show me how you would do otherwise and more importantly what law is broken that has no remedy by that transaction
If you place money meant for business in my personal account, i will simply transfer it to my business account, even pay for the transfer fee myself… Why la so hard? Wont this be the course of action taken by a person with integrity? Let just put it this way, najib is cleared of any criminal intent but could be charged for severely lacking in integrity IF there is a law for that. Politician are all liars, let them lie for themselves. Dont damage your brain trying to lie for them…unless you get paid.
grk, u mean it is common to give yr personal account to everyone, so that everyone would from time to time place money into yr account? i never claim any law is broken, my question is exactly the words i put in my comment. i am not one that tell this halpen every day.
ae, dun sound like a smartass with all yr if. but i am sure many would pay u for yr ass n not yr brain.
Gkumar
Quote: “no control”
Yes, there is. When large amount is received, local banks are required to report to BNM. (Especially when it is remitted to a personal account.)
If an explanation by the ac holder is acceptable to BNM, then all is fine. If not, BNM is expected to report to MACC for further investigations.
Since certain money source originated from a Swiss bank, the Swiss authorities are currently launching an investigation into the said transaction amidst report of alleged wrong doing.
So whats your point?
” Since certain money source originated from a Swiss bank, the Swiss authorities are currently launching an investigation into the said transaction amidst report of alleged wrong doing.”
what do you mean by the above statement? The Swiss like any other authority are required but not obliged to launch an investigation on an official complaint only to the extent that the complaint alleges something illegal about the money or the transaction.
I repeat my earlier question. Regardless of what findings the Swiss come up with, what is the alleged illegality attached to the transaction and under what law?
Since 9/11 when the US and European intelligence communities first learned of Hawalla (a form of money transaction across borders which do not pass through the reserve or commercial banking systems of any country) practiced by the Indians and the Arabs, any transaction (including domestic withdrawal of $10,000 or more) must be reported and the subject of scrutiny by all reserve banks wherever they are. To suggest the Swiss who are themselves the subject of scrutiny by others where money and banking transactions are concerned is as relevant and noteworthy as saying a bank issues a receipt everytime a transaction passes through it.
gkumar
Quote: “what do you mean by the above statement? The Swiss like any other authority are required but not obliged to launch an investigation on an official complaint only to the extent that the complaint alleges something illegal about the money or the transaction.”
So, you are saying it is standard SOP for the Swiss authorities to probe 1MDB (or any other) transactions whenever there is allegations of irregularity.
Did my original comment inferred anything else?
Quote: “Swiss officials said they became interested in the activities around 1MDB due to concerns the country’s banking system may have been used for illegal activities.”
source: http://www.wsj.com/articles/swiss-attorney-general-expresses-concern-over-halt-of-malaysian-1mdb-probe-1454083061
Further confirmation by DPM Hamidi there is indeed an ongoing investigation by the Swiss authorities…
– http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/swiss-should-have-kept-1mdb-request-private-zahid-hamidi?&utm_source=email&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany
You having trouble with my comment?
Quote: “Regardless of what findings the Swiss come up with, what is the alleged illegality attached to the transaction and under what law?”
What law to be applied IF there are evidence of illegality attached to the transaction is a question that hardly falls under the purview of my comment. I make no conclusions nor allegations. I chose my words wisely.
I AM pretty sure your ass would fetch a better price HY. Lighter skinned prostitute always more expensive. Why so bitter btw, not getting paid?
To answer your stupid smartass question. 1) it can happen everyday if you let it – give out personal acct like some DAP does when they are out asking for fund this and that or another example is when rosmah aide got caught depositing 2 mill cash in her account, people do deposit 1 ringgit to her account to make sure it is HER acct. You cant stop people from depositing money into your acct if they know the number. 2) no control, until it is already in your account, then you have control and can do anything you like with the money or you can close your account. 3) really? REALLY!.
Why ask question when you do not want an answer huh whiteass? Might as well go do something productive in jln alor.
Seeing as working your ass is what you know about and do best it is best that I stay out of this conversation. I wold much prefer to deal with legal and constitutional issues and matters relating to banking and finance which I also have a special interest in.
ae, i sound bitter bec i got to reply to a daft n his daft comment, thats a no fun job. the pm let the entire world know his personal acct kah? u cant close the acct or report what happened in advance kah? u r really a daft, no more give me daft reply pls if u have no answer, bolih kah?
n oso pls tell the other guy (not as daft as u yet as he is smart enough to evade a straight-forward question) my intention is to expose his special interest for the stupidity they represent. what he prefer to do, and what he prefer not to do, r of absolutely no consequence to me.
Ali Baba hid all stolen treasures inside a cave. “Open sesame” baru dapat masuk dalam gua tau dak? Payah nak cari hidden treasures dia.
A Prime Minister cum Finance Minister masakan bahalol sangat to put into his personal Malaysian bank account knowingly those are “wang rasuah”? Don’t tell me since small dia tak pernah baca buku cerita Ali Baba and the forty thieves?
Please la.. Nak bikin cerita biaq bagi convincing sikit. If its wang rasuah, he can just rent a storage container kat Negara Timbaktu and ask the PakArab tu just send those monies there.
Haiyaaa apa la semua olang kalut sangat ni?
mana ada i kata pasal wang rasuah dalam soalan i, lu rina kalu tak tahu membaca, duduk diam diam la, atau join ko punya sibling masuk srjkc. jangan tunjuk kebodohan kat sini.
lagi pun bukan ali baba yg simpan hasil curian dalam gua, dia ni sama juga dengan pencuri yg lain, seorang pencuri yg mencuri dari pencuri. abang dia kassim, seorang lagi pencuri, dah lupa password thats y kena bunuh. itu pencuri ali baba pun same bodoh, jemput pencuri taiko masuk rumah, the lesson is, pencuri kadang kadang pun nyanyuk ingat perbuatan kotor tak ada orang tahu, hakikat nya semua tahu.
kalu cerita arab tak tahu, tanya apek jiran la.
HY
Yang dok gaduh2 kuat tu semua dah puak2 tua belaka. Faham2 aje la. Sekarang kalut Najib konon boh duit “rasuah” dalam personal Malaysian bank acct..
Tak lama lagi kita dengaq cerita Najib ada ekoq dan tanduk pula..Rasa2 itu pun nanti you sure mati matian akan percaya. Nak tanya you, dragon terbang semboq api you percaya ujud atau tidak?
Haiyaa.. Apek2 jiran saya sambil hulur rasuah sambil maki hamun sipenerima, melalak kat semua olang lia baru saja kasi wang rasuah tanpa sedaq diri yang dia dok bagi tu juga dia pun kira merasuah. When I asked why give in the first place?.. pasai mau kasi proses jalan lajuuuu, tak payah rugi masanya?
grkumar,
re: “What if I placed money into your personal account instead of into your business account? what control have you over what I do? It happens every day.”
RM2.6billion can be “accidentally” transferred in my personal account instead of my business account?
And it happens every day, does it? :)
Gosh, I can hardly wait until tomorrow to check my bank account balance :)
Mmmmmm… RM2.6billion…..
And, of cos, I would return the money, too :)
Ordinary Malaysian,
James Bond 007 dah berapa series, you tak pernah tengok ke cara dia dok spy? Peti besi bilik tidoq oghang pun dia boleh masuk dn curi benda dalam tu. Inikan pula personal account Najib, kacang putih aje bagi dia.
Sekarang agen 007 pasti lagi canggih, mesti pandai hacking mana2 program dia pilih. Isssh. Kena rajin tengok movie tau, esp Chinese movies, oghang pun boleh terbang tau..
An idiot like you will never have that experience at all so don’t hold your breath or embellish your otherwise idiotic comments with smileys. Give me something to comment on that has some substance.
Nothing was accidentally transferred. The fact is it is known and acknowledged by the transferor that they transferred a large amount into an account for the benefit of…. It is up to the bank if it so chooses to determine whether or not the amount into a personal account is within its rules. Clearly there are no rules that prohibit a bank from receiving any amount into any account unless there is a court order in place in the relevant jurisdiction of the transfer prohibiting any crediting into the account the amount transferred. There was none in this case. No offence was committed. No law was broken.
GR Kumar,
re: “embellish your otherwise idiotic comments with smileys”
They’re the equivalent of the poor fler’s retarded grin. If we’re feeling extra kind and patient, we can humour him by smiling back before sending him back to his village that’s missing its prize idiot.
grkumar,
some people raise questions not because they seek answers. You can provide them with answers but so what ? The scum will come back for more. It’s not the answers. They just want to have a fun time.
Helen, there are other ways to deal with that idiot. You can start by ignoring him. After a few comments he will give up. It is precisely because you keep entertaining him that he comes back for more.
Keep at it girl. The veneer has begun to peel off and the its a bit hot in the kitchen for some. Keep at it.
Give as good as you get and multiply it by 10 then some more. After nearly 20 years with all the American, German, French and English money they still struggle and resort to lies. Why? they have no strategy, no tactics and no idea.
Helen,
I wish you ‘HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR!’
TQ … 12 minutes before the firecrackers go off ,)
This is for you Helen, I felt so tenang listening to this song…walaupun tak faham sepatah haram! Hahaha
Helen silap lagu, youtube link tu tersilap…ni yang betul…sorry
“If Annie cannot even be truthful about the basics like his gender and his race, what credibility can you attach to the rest of what Annie says? His contrived, heartwarming grandmother stories are just a figment of the imagination, no?”
Don’t forget, for a long time the one known as Lim Sian See also claimed he was a middle aged nyonya. Does the caution above also apply to “Lim Sian See”?
Does LSS come on to male readers like Annie who posts suggestive pictures?
e.g. Annie said he needed a sauna and uploaded a photo of a naked woman (back view) sitting in a hot tub. Annie said he was on a beach holiday and posted a photo of a girl (face hidden) in a bikini on the sand.
Annie said he was sleepy and going to bed but it’s a hot night and said something about not wearing something (a piece of garment) which made some readers give free rein to their imagination.
Did LSS play all coy and Little Lady of the Valley with his readers? Did LSS’s readers come on to him with sexual propositions?
In any case, we now know LSS is a man and we’ve also seen LSS’s male face (photo published in Malaysia Today). He’s come clean by changing his FB avatar from female to male, without piling on the desperate denials and concocting more grandmother stories like Annie is doing.
Why do you think LSS first claimed to be a nyonya, do you think? Why the deceit? And for how long?
He usually trotted it out as a final defence when things get too hot and he’s on the verge of losing an argument. “I am just a sweet middle aged semi-retired nyonya”, sounds to me as duplicitious as pretending to be a sweet naive young thing.
And let’s not forget, LSS declared himself a man only after he was outed by others. How long did he play the “sweet semi retired nyonya” card before that?
Come on, you were the one who laid down the guidelines. Just because someone whom you are in favour of falls under the same guideline doesn’t mean you should move the goalpost. That’s what pro Najib people do.
re: “Why do you think LSS first claimed to be a nyonya, do you think? Why the deceit? And for how long?”
Will you specify how you interpret or use the term ‘nyonya’ and did LSS actually use that term?
One of my regular commenters Mulan is nyonya. I, on the other hand, would call myself Chinese. But since HY (another commenter) insists that I’m not Chinese enough to meet his standards, you can sub-classify me as a Peranakan (a offshoot group which the pure hanzi Chinese like HY seem to despise).
While I would consider both my grandmothers and my aunties Nyonya, I can’t claim the same for myself because I cannot cook Nyonya dishes well, haha.
re: “He usually trotted it out as a final defence when things get too hot and he’s on the verge of losing an argument. ‘I am just a sweet middle aged semi-retired nyonya’, sounds to me as duplicitious as pretending to be a sweet naive young thing.”
Well, at least the description of “middle-aged and semi-retired” fits LSS’s actual age and vocation whereas “naive SYT” does not at all fit Annie who’s middle-aged but trying to arouse red-blooded male fantasies.
Disclaimer: Although I read LSS’s blog, I’m not on Facebook so I’ve not followed the saga of his FB. I read LSS in Mynation portal or whenever he’s aggregated by Malaysia Today or tweeted.
re: “And let’s not forget, LSS declared himself a man only after he was outed by others.”
Who outed him and when?
Annie has been outed by Syed Akbar Ali and the rest of us have confirmed the info. But unlike LSS, Annie does not have the prudence to pull back but instead is upping the ante in his charade. Take it from me, he’s making those Umno bloggers who know rasa geli.
re: “How long did he play the “sweet semi retired nyonya” card before that?”
I dunno. Please tell us.
Nonetheless, there is a pivotal difference between LSS and Annie. Was LSS coming on to his male readers like Annie is? I don’t think so.
Guys having wet dreams about “The Little Lady of the Valley” but now realising that he looks more or less like (FB below) his fellow Dapster K-Pop, anime and Chinese movie fan … well, that’s kinda geli, like everybody has been saying.
re: “Come on, you were the one who laid down the guidelines. Just because someone whom you are in favour of falls under the same guideline doesn’t mean you should move the goalpost. That’s what pro Najib people do.”
Look at the outcome. Was there much fallout from the LSS outing? People still read LSS because his writings have substance. That hasn’t changed whether he’s a man or woman.
Annie, in contrast, has little substance (no “fascinating data” and “impressive charts”) but has instead gone on an overkill in his feminine masquerade – always tired, sickly, headachy, period/mentrual pains, mysterious serious ailment (heart disease?), imaginary father on imaginary deathbed … .
His whinge/playcard is I’m a little lady “writing from my heart”.
People who buy into the fake Annie persona believe that it is a woman’s heart speaking. Male writers do not take pride in such a claim. They prefer macho, like Ernest Hemmingway or cocky like F. Scott Fitzgerald.
But then, Annie’s really one screwed-up dude. He’s like the Dapsters who begin to believe in theoir own propaganda. A good friend of mine said he’s never heard a man moan and bitch so much.
“But since HY (another commenter) insists that I’m not Chinese enough to meet his standards”
sorry i always assume u understand me n my write albeit a short one, i mean i perceive u n me as no diff, we r chinese msian. i am not saying u n mulan r no diff. it seem u become a bit sensitive whenever I talk abt nyonya, otoh i rarely get geram when u call me a zombie since i am one of the 95%.
re: “i mean i perceive u n me as no diff, we r chinese msian.”
Noted.
re: “i am not saying u n mulan r no diff.”
I misunderstood. It happens when brusque commenters shoot off one liners.
re: “it seem u become a bit sensitive whenever I talk abt nyonya”
They’ve died off. If I recall, our friend AK47 donated stuff (his collections) to the Baba Nyonya Museum in S’pore or something like that. The Baba Nyonya culture is more or less museum pieces. And I don’t like to wallow in nostalgia.
We the descendants, I feel, don’t qualify to call ourselves that. I don’t keep my hair in a sanggul like my grandmothers and my aunties. I don’t wear kebaya pendek pinned together with the kerongsang.
I doubt that anyone of the current generation X, Y or millennial sleep anymore on tikar mengkuang and using a wooden headrest (which I remember from my childhood).
Yes, I’m annoyed at you. Someone once asked me in this blog if I feel that the Baba Nyonyas should be given bumiputera status. My answer back then was already ‘No’. It’s the past. Better to move on.
re: “otoh i rarely get geram when u call me a zombie”
I very, very rarely call Dapsters “zombie”. My preferred word is “sneaky”.
To avoid any misunderstanding, I don’t think you’re sneaky. However I do find the Dapster blogmaster of that other blog wherein you comment (who “admires” LGE) is despicable. You don’t have to believe his stories either. He’s about as trustworthy as the Cina ultra – two sides of the same coin.
You, I can tolerate :D
To wit:
“It’s the niat of the masquerade. What would you think of a middle-aged man if he were to pretend online to be a young teenager(or sweet middle aged semi retired nyonya) who’s befriending pre-pubescent girls? Would you not fear that he is a pedophile?”
In your own words. What was LSS’s niat?
“Middle-aged and semi-retired” is not the object of male sexual fantasies.
It’s a far cry from the naked (back view) and bikini beach shots that Annie posted, coupled with all his bitching about the fictional Chinese ex-BF who’s a “bastard’. That was one helluva melodrama script. Perhaps Annie missed his vocation. He’s better off working with the production houses than trying to dabble as a political pundit.
In politic analysis, one has to be grounded (example Joceline Tan whose a consummate professional and compared with Annie, like chalk and cheese) and not be such a drama king and so emo.
And the sneaky imposture (the sexy photography lifted from the Net) was done by with as much deliberation as Annie’s decision now to collude with the Dapsters and Chinese ultra in their smear campaign against me.
Malam Lunar New Year ni bagi aku jadi melakonli semacam…
“Annie the fraud”, the the classic case of how “Melayu mudah ditipu”. Here is a person who was encouraged to blog and be a blogger by the “doyen” of the local blogging community. So, this Malay Male took on the persona of a female. Next, potrayed as someone who is half Chinese and or having Chinese lineage.
Starting with bigcatrambleon he then moved on to lifeofannie claiming that the previous blog is now run by tinselcat who incidentally was his sister. With lifeofannie, he successfully conned all with his postings including one Haji Zin from Alor Gajah (wonder if Hj Zin is also him). Embolden, he began to attack Johor Menteri Besar, Khalid Nordin and that was his Waterloo. It riled up his bosses in the grossly discredited and poorly circulating English newspaper and in the process got booted out.
Now, without a job he went back to his handler and has moled in there, albeit temporarily. Anyway, he is for certain to morph into another persona. So, don’t be surprised if the next time he is “Apu the Indian”.
So, who is annie the fraud? Well, we in Johor know who who this fart face is, the journalists knows who he is, his name has been exposed in outsyedtheblog. So who is annie the fraud? Well, the fraudster is ****** ******. Ok, here is a clue. It starts with an “S” ( oh he sure is one filthy ass).
“Never mind the material just feel the width” Groucho Marx.
In this case I would turn it round to “Never mind the width just feel the material”.
Who cares what or who they really are. Is it not the substance (or the absence of it) that matters?
Many ‘characters’ that every now and then appear in “Life of a Annie”, such as ‘lufang’, ‘hj Zin of Alor Gajah’, etc. seems to only visit the same blog. They wouldn’t appear in other blogs.
‘Annie’, ‘lufang’ and ‘hj Zin of Alor Gajah’ must be the same one person.
That’s real funny and disgusting in the same time. Haha.
re: “‘Annie’, ‘lufang’ and ‘hj Zin of Alor Gajah’ must be the same one person.”
I think they are all different persons. Lufang and Hj Zin have commented in my blig before, once in a blue moon.
The Tok Haji tak teruja dengan saya sepertimana beliau tmapak menaruh hati pada “adindanya” yang seorang itu.
Tuan Haji MD Zin of Alor Gajah is a regular commenter in RPK’s blog Malaysia Today.net. Sometimes we can tell a person by reading his/her and one such person is this Tuan Haji. Methinks he is a decent man and I very much doubt he uses any other names.
I agree with your assessment of the Tok Haji, ‘Aku Melayu’.
But people are laughing at him for being hoodwinked.
Well he wasn’t the only one who got fooled.
How did that guy got outed anyway?That article against Norman Fernandez incurred Norman Fernandez wrath and subsequent backlash?Or SAA gloating at Najib’s prepaid bloggers quitting or something like that?
For the former it’s interesting that a former DAP deputy chairman knows, for the latter, it’s ironic that SAA of Dr Mahathir camp detests that blog that’s trying to get on the good side of both Mahathir and Najib.
I guess RPK got a point about neutrality. Either pick a side or risk having both sides turn against you. No wonder no other component party in BN try at being mediator.
Either way, your blog is just a bystander and yet that guy chose to make you the main target for some reason, instead of the two persons I mentioned above. Unless all those times you argued against his opinion he’s been silently keeping a grudge.
re: “Well he wasn’t the only one who got fooled.”
There are more suckers among the Protuns than there among the Projibs.
That’s because the Protuns are emo – they love (cium tangan, call him “ayahanda”) Tun intensely and hate anyone the old man hates.
Since the Projibs do not love Ah Jib Gor intensely, they’re pragmatically choosing ‘the lesser of the two evils’ so to speak (it’s a proverb, I’m not saying Najib is ‘evil’) because they can understand how destructive, double standards and two-faced the other side is.
The opposition sells holy water and hot air whereas the ruling party has its track record (where we already know their bad and good) to showcase.
The oppo posture themselves as Mother Teresa but look at what they do when power is in the hands. It took the BN (2016-1955=) 60 years, counting from the first national election, to deteriorate to its present stage of decay.
The DAP took only 19 days to sell out the Kampung Pala Villagers.
re: “How did that guy got outed anyway? That article against Norman Fernandez incurred Norman Fernandez wrath and subsequent backlash? Or SAA gloating at Najib’s prepaid bloggers quitting or something like that?”
SAA “gloating”, you’re correct.
re: “For the former it’s interesting that a former DAP deputy chairman knows”
Johor politics. Annie was based in Johor.
re: “for the latter, it’s ironic that SAA of Dr Mahathir camp detests that blog that’s trying to get on the good side of both Mahathir and Najib.”
Trying to kissy-kissy both will end up with you falling between two stools, especially if you were the employee of a media company owned by Umno and one (male) prima donna who’s so big headed as to take potshots at the Menteri Besar of the state with the most number of Umno members, i.e. Johor.
Reconciliation is impossible. Here’s the realpolitik scenario:
(1) Tun wants Najib to either step down or be toppled.
(2) If Najib falls, he will be at the complete mercy of his enemies. Think what will they do to him – and Rosmah (especially Rosmah) – once he’s powerless?
(3) Since he’s still got power, why should he make himself vulnerable to (2)? Of course, he’ll fight back. Any rational person in his shoes would do the same.
(4) Now post-Mukhriz, Tun wants not only for Najib to be brought down but to be hung and quartered. And pieces of the corpse fed to the keli in a Kedah fish farm.
(5) Thus Najib’s man in Johor, YB Kempas Tengku Putra Jumat, was quite correct to foreshadow – “Take no prisoners”.
re: “I guess RPK got a point about neutrality. Either pick a side or risk having both sides turn against you.”
Tun did not directly pick DAP to be his side, but they’re quick to capitalize. Similarly with Protuns like Annie who’s being manipulated by Dapsters. You can see that his commenters are the arch DAP cytro Alphabet Soup and his sidekick (Anon) – or they could be one and the same – repeatedly hammering the stale recycled canards against me.
Do check out those new commenters in Annie who are linked to blogspot. You can see that their profiles are freshly baked – only signed up in Jan 2016.
re: “Either way, your blog is just a bystander and yet that guy chose to make you the main target for some reason, instead of the two persons I mentioned above.”
Because SAA and Norman are men. Annie is the type to bully a woman (me).
re: “Unless all those times you argued against his opinion he’s been silently keeping a grudge.”
Oh yes, obviously. He bitches worse than a woman after all. He said he wouldn’t blog about politics but can’t keep his word.
He said he doesn’t want any mention of me to sully his blog anymore but ke keeps picking at the scab and churning up fresh blog entries about me, and name-calling “Ah Soh lar”, “old spinster” lah. “wet dog” lah, “smelly” lah etc.
And essentially setting me up as a target for a duck shoot by the vindictive Dapster cytros who’ve now taken control of Annie’s comment space.
Life of Annie is turning into a hate site but some of the Protuns are still hanging around.
That’s why my initial recommendation (and my first instincts are usually good) is to write off the Protuns as votes that cannot be recovered by the BN, just like Chinese votes.
The BN war room should assign a figure for the amount of Malay votes anticipated lost due to Tun (and the DAP cytros masquerading as Protuns to spread venom) and crunch the numbers from there. Then work on replacing the loss by drawing from PAS support.
‘There are more suckers among the Protuns than there among the Projibs.’
Tak setuju Helen, how la you quantify this? Do we really know how many, out there of Protuns and Projibs around?
‘That’s because the Protuns are emo – they love (cium tangan, call him “ayahanda”) Tun intensely and hate anyone the old man hates.’
I disagree Helen. I love Tun M but that does not mean that I hates whomever he hates. Like Tun M himself, I have my own worldview on things.
The same goes to you, yes?
re: quote: There are more suckers among the Protuns than there among the Projibs. / “Tak setuju Helen, how la you quantify this?”
Suckers are readers gullible enough to swallow a sneaky con. The Protuns support Annie’s fraudulent blog. The Projibs – I hope – support my blog. (Note: I’d already declared quite early and openly that I picked Najib over Tun in a posting I did last July, https://helenang.wordpress.com/2015/07/27/my-ten-either-or-choices/ )
I’ve been frank and straightforward that I’m Projib. Unlike Annie, I don’t bullshit about being “neutral”.
Those supporting Life of Annie have a herd mentality, i.e. pro-Tun, so mesti sokong the Protun blogger instead of appraising separately the merits of Annie vs Helen.
Annie’s blog has become a hate site in collusion with Cina ultra.
His commenters are a string of Anons (same jer seorang DAP cytro tu yang asyik kiasu mengulangi komen fitnahnya terhadap saya), Mr Alphabet Soup, i.e. ‘mdzfrs’ who used the moniker ‘zofreis’ in my blog (Google him here and see how vicious he is), ‘Cik Kiah’ and new commenters who have only very recently registered their profile with Blogspot, e.g. the account (screenshot below) of Annie’s new commenter.
They’re fake (cytros) with a Black Ops agenda to fling mud at me.
My commenters here are genuine – the ones you yourself have been ‘acquainted’ with for the last few years.
I’m sure you can agree with the argument I’ve made above. Annie’s credibility has plummeted ever since he chose to bersekongkol with the Dapsters. Some Protuns cannot see this. Why? Because they’re gullible.
Why are they gullible? Because they’re blinded by hatred for Najib. I’m Projib but I do not hate Tun. I still refer to him by his honorific and I don’t call him nicknames like “mamak” whereas the Protuns always spit at Najib with the most degrading insults.
Haters lose their capacity for thinking straight. Quantify the hate to see which side is more gullible (suckers).
How to quantify? Go by the amount of name-calling, disrespect and vilification.
Do the Projibs show more hate for Tun? Or do the Protuns show more hate for Najib?
re: “Do we really know how many, out there of Protuns and Projibs around?”
Among the sopo bloggers, yes. Can roughly make a list of the two sides.
Rocky blogged today, “… I was actually defending the Prime Minister on my blog”.
So we can take it that Rocky is Projib.
Rocky blogged on Jan 31, and put himself together with Lim Sian See, Big Dog, A Voice and RPK … so these are the Projibs.
Rocky listed Jebat Must Die, Clare Rewcastle, OutSyed The Box and Din Turtle as belonging to the other camp … the Protuns.
Actually, a good comparison of credibility is between Annie and Lim Sian See.
Both of them are men who had created a fictional female online persona, the only difference being that Annie portrayed himself as a young, cute “Little Lady of the Valley” Cina kacukan who has a bikini bod and a “bastard ex-boyfriend” whereas LSS described himself as a middle-aged and semi-retired Chinese woman.
So both Annie and Lim Sian See are equally guilty of gender deception. Yet Annie – who pretends to be a SWEET young thing – had the gall to label LSS as “Lim Spin Spin”. (Annie’s name-calling got him into the PMO’s bad books, I’m guessing, because LSS is the chief blogger defending 1MDB).
Putting their masquerade aside for a minute, whose writings are more credible – the Protun Annie or the Projib LSS?
Another similarity between Annie and LSS is that both have been outed. The Protuns who still believe Annie are suckers, I maintain. Hahaha, Annie claims to have a Chinese grandpa but all he uploaded in his blog of his ‘CNY celebration’ – konon – was a pix of grandpa’s “pineapple”, ROTFL.
re: “I disagree Helen. I love Tun M …”
There you go. It’s the cult of personality. A cult is a cult – members are brainwashed. That’s why Protuns attack like a lynch mob. Projibs don’t do that.
Compared to the love that you and others have for Tun, I doubt the public loves Najib all that much with the exception perhaps of Umno warlords whom Najib has cultivated since their Umno Youth days and rising up together through the ranks. Those are Najib’s genuine comrades.
The Utar boys and girls who waved the banner ‘We love you, Ah Jib Gor” and “Ah Jib Gor, you’re our inspiration” and those waving the placards ‘I love PM’ – tu semua cinta palsu. On the other hand, I grant that the adoration for Tun is real and from the heart.
People who support the status quo (hence necessitating support for the leader maintaining the status quo) don’t love Najib. We’re making our decision based on clear-headed thinking. If Najib falls, the current regime will unravel because the centre holding it is fragile.
In the ensuing chaos, the DAP will step in and take over. Protuns ikut rasa. Projib buat perhitungan ikut logik. Protuns are easily swayed by fiery and emotional rhetoric and hence, as I’ve argued, they’re gullible. Or in the case of Annie’s diehard fan base, suckers.
re: “… but that does not mean that I hates whomever he hates. Like Tun M himself, I have my own worldview on things.”
I tengok Protuns ikut jer rentak Tun. He’s thrown everything and the kitchen sink at Najib. As Kak Rina says, some people can even believe Najib has grown a pair of horns (and a spiky devil’s tail).
Look at how Tun has shifted his attack from A – Z.
Initially, it was faulting Najib for the Chinese tsunami, saying that Najib terlalu bagi muka dan madu dibalas dengan tuba.
Next, Tun went on the Malay nationalism tack along with his Perkasa gang, blaming Najib kerana membiar Cina pijak kepala and complaining that the bumiputeras are being left behind. To which Najib had to counter by introducing dasar pemerkasaan BEEP (Bumiputera Economic Empowerment Programme).
Then Tun attacked BRIM.
He also attacked Najib for not supporting Proton.
He attacked Najib’s stepson’s Hollywood movie, he attacked Najib’s daughter’s “Wedding of the Century”. Perihal attacking Rosmah, tak ‘yah cakap lah – she’s the low hanging fruit that’s easy picking.
Tun even went as far as to meet convicted murderer Sirul to resuscitate Altantuya’s ghost.
Then he hopped on the 1MDB and “Mana RM2.6b?” bandwagon, and now it’s up close and very personal – vengeance for Mukhriz (and perhaps something cooking with Mokhzani).
Looking at the wide array of Tun’s attacks, and including his attendance at Bersih, it’s not solely the 1MDB that Tun is interested in.
Tun’s overarching objective is to depose Najib, not to ascertain the truth of 1MDB. Kalau takde 1MDB pun, Tun pasti akan cari alasan lain.
If you ikut Tun and query 1MDB but disagree with some of his other actions, that I can accept that you have a mind of your own.
But if you ikut jer, e.g. when Tun is pro-Bersih, then ‘you’ – not you specifically islam1st but Protuns in general – also find excuses to defend the Yellow Rally, and when Tun takes a belated interest in Sirul (why not years ago when the court verdict was delivered?), then ‘you’ also agree that the court judgment is flawed … meaning seiring sejalan dengan Tun setiap langkah … then, I refuse to credit that ‘you’ are not a pentaksub.
i am not here to defend whatever1st but I think his disagreement on so called protun r emo, may apply to the so called projib as well. they/u defend najib as if he did nothing wrong, no? I dun see any diff, everyone r just being partisan in his/her own way.
re: “u defend najib as if he did nothing wrong, no?”
Unlike Annie cluck-cluck who vociferously defended Rosmah, I have not defended Rosmelda.
And if I defend Najib, the reason is … if DAP is so eager to get rid of him, then the oppo must be convinced that with Najib leading BN to fight GE14, it makes things harder for New Hope to wrest Putrajaya than if it were (Muhyiddin / Zahid / Hisham) leading the ruling party in 2018.
Yet that 95% can keep on supporting the opposition is ironic.
This one, I agree with you.
It has been a while since I last posted any comments here. Work seems to pile up sky high but could not resist penning down my thoughts.
We can speculate the reasons why the blogger chose the Annie persona, but please remember that the message is always more important than the messenger. In Life of Annie’s case, it is the tale of a political operator who found himself / herself on the wrong side of the fence. The rest is all just fluff. Note that this doesn’t make the message of known messengers any more credible, honest or truthful. As a case in point, just read Malaysia Today and watch RPK does gymnastics with words.
I find it strange that people label themselves (or each other) as pro-Tun or pro-Najib. My father taught me that politicians are scoundrels and politics make good people do bad things. I just think politicians or otherwise, people will do anything for fame, power or money.
It should be clear as day that democracy does not pick the most intelligent leader to run the country (nor the most virtuous). To harbor such hopes is not only unrealistic and naïve, but also insane. It is not about the flaws in character of our party leaders, from Najib to Guan Eng to Mat Sabu or Hadi, it is about the system in which they work their magic. We know they are scoundrels and the masses are idiots. The key here is how do we get everyone to play ball?
I hope Tun Mahathir keeps it up. The more the elites claw at each other, the more the average joes can open their eyes and think about the lies those in power keep telling everyone else.
re: “It has been a while since I last posted any comments here.”
Happy New Year and all the best for the year ahead then.
re: “Work seems to pile up sky high but could not resist penning down my thoughts.”
Good that you’ve found the time.
re: “We can speculate the reasons why the blogger chose the Annie persona, but please remember that the message is always more important than the messenger.”
Largely true. But then there’s the matter of the expertise of the messenger.
E.g. I did not give my opinion on the 1980 national football team but when I mentioned the movie Ola Bola, the DAP cytros took the chance to immediately pounce and accuse me of knowing nuts about football when in fact I was only drawing readers to give their own take on whether the film producer/director was merely milking a multiracial nostalgia among the delusional Firsters. After all, the Chinese today don’t play football general.
In my case above, I’m the messenger but because I don’t follow the football leagues, and even though I do intend to watch the film this week, my review of the film’s socio-politico content would surely be attacked for the reason of my not being a football fan.
So you see, who delivers the message does have a bearing too.
re: “In Life of Annie’s case, it is the tale of a political operator who found himself / herself on the wrong side of the fence.”
HIMself. This can be confirmed by enough people in the political circles.
re: “The rest is all just fluff.”
We have a comparison. Lim Sian See was outed for the same gender charade. He manned up and moved on. Annie, on the other, is embellishing more and more feminine grandmother stories. The guy is practically schizo in his dual gender roles.
re: “Note that this doesn’t make the message of known messengers any more credible, honest or truthful.”
If you want to say that Annie’s message on Johor politics is credible, I would say both ‘Yes’ and ‘No’. Largely yes, insofar as he and others in the state can observe the scene.
‘No’ because his take was still wrong on some crucial matter, for example Ghani Othman’s chances in Gelang Patah, and the extent to which DAP would make its spectacular inroad – winning 13 out of 14 DUNs contested (13 calon Cina DAP menang, sorang calon DAP India tu kalah).
In the second place, Annie boasted of his work with the (presumably) Umno Johor team under Ghani. Well, Johor was one of the states worst-hit by the Chinese tsunami.
In Selangor, Umno was still telling No.1 that BN would be able to recover the state. And Najib, looking at the mega turnout at the MCA makan busat harboured some hope that the Chinese vote was not all lost. Obviously BN Selangor was in their own Lalaland, ‘cos from a 2/3 majority in the S’gor DUN, Pakatan increased its dominance to 4/5.
That’s Selangor. In Johor too, they were too optimistic that the BN fortress would hold when the reality was that DAP managed to take away a further 9 DUN seats from BN (mostly if not all from MCA).
And for all of Annie’s boasts about being on the ground in Johor, his write-ups during the GE13 did not reflect that he even saw the Chinese tsunami coming either. Hence Annie’s aftershock the ‘morning after’, and groaning about how the Chinese had killed Ghani and killing the BN moderation and ‘kongsi’ politics.
So you see, Annie was off side. When I compiled the Johor election results 2-and-1/2 years after the fact, it was with the benefit of hindsight. The elections were over, the data available and when tabulated gave us the stats.
I wasn’t claiming that I’m better or more insightful than Annie in political acumen. I was merely presenting the spreadsheet, so to speak, and saying hey look, “These are the stats, and this is what the stats say”. I used the data to back up my support of the Umno Kempas Adun who advised his boss “to take no prisoners”. It’s an approach that I agree with.
So we had
It was a simple matter put forward to readers of our respective blogs, i.e.
Ultimately, Helen is correct because Khaled Nordin announced that he is open to the idea of cooperation with PAS (and BN wants PAS Malay votes to ganti the lost Protun votes, even though in Johor PAS is not a force to be reckoned with but please bear the whole national landscape in mind).
And Helen is further correct because now, with the move on Mukhriz, Tun is all out for vengeance and reconciliation off the table. I’m not claiming that I’m “correct” in terms of ultimate truth but I’m certainly correct in my forecast of which approach the Najib administration would adopt, i.e. “either you’re with us or against us”.
However Annie’s BIG EGO couldn’t accept my difference of opinion because he regarded himself as the chief Umno pundit on Johor politics on the ground compared to a pen pusher crunching data who does not racially qualify to become a member of Wanita Umno.
(Oh ya, Annie also fired the cheap shot that I dunno how to sing the Umno Johor song. Question: Does everyone who comments on Penang or Selangor politics know how to sing the respective state anthems?)
Bottomline: Annie is a sore loser who can’t accept that he didn’t get the Johor-Khaled-take no prisoners and Mukhriz outcome forecasts
re: “I find it strange that people label themselves (or each other) as pro-Tun or pro-Najib.”
The Protuns really are intensely pro-Tun. They would go to sembahyang Jumaat in the National Mosque in the hope of getting a chance to bersalam and cium tangan. They go, “Ayahanda this and Ayahanda that” and believe he’s the best invention since slice bread. Bet they go to Loaf and happily pay the overpriced menu too.
Projibs see the necessity of helping him keep the seat in order to maintain status quo, and not let DAP grab Putrajaya. It’s a rational outlook, unlike the pnetaksub Tun.
I really doubt that many Projibs taksub but the warlords are loyal and the Umno members (remember, not a single Umno division leader has memberontak except Jerlun and Pagoh) intuitively know that the DAP-led opposition is the much, much, much greater evil.
re: “My father taught me that politicians are scoundrels and politics make good people do bad things.”
At least Umno started off on a high footing with Dato’ Onn and his son Hussein Onn. I believe that Tun Razak deserves the title of a ‘statesmen’ as well.
DAP, on the other hand, have only been under the thumb of the Kims (and now their evangelistas proteges). Like North Korea, which calls itself the “Democratic” republic, DAP too calls itself the Democratic party.
If you wanna know how bad the Dapsters are, read this about what they did to kenakan Chew Mei Fun during the Kajang by-election — https://helenang.wordpress.com/2014/11/01/maid-abusers-and-their-most-astounding-saka/
re: “I just think politicians or otherwise, people will do anything for fame, power or money.”
Umno has had fame, power and money for decades already. It is the DAP that is power-crazed and money-hungry.
Najib has been an MP since 1976. His involvement in politics is 40 years. Back during the brouhaha over the Selangor exco pay hike, Hannah Yeoh approved a salary hike for herself with the state Speaker matching the PM’s salary of RM22k.
When the tamak haloba S’gor Speaker gave herself that whopping RM22k salary increase in 2013, she had been in politics only 5-and-1/2 years.
And DAP has proven it is not adverse to creating redundant positions just so that their leaders can collect easy money. During the MB Khalid ouster, DAP Selangor demanded a Deputy Speaker (II) post for Ng Suee Lim (its Adun Sekinchan who’s senior to Hannah) as payback during Azmin’s exco reshuffle.
re: “It should be clear as day that democracy does not pick the most intelligent leader to run the country (nor the most virtuous).”
Fortunately the DAP has yet to come to power although they came to within a whisker on 10 May 1969.
re: “To harbor such hopes is not only unrealistic and naïve, but also insane.”
The Singapore roving ambassador labelled young Malaysian Chinese DAP supporters (Firtsers) as “delusional”. His Excellency is spot on.
re: “It is not about the flaws in character of our party leaders, from Najib to Guan Eng to Mat Sabu or Hadi, it is about the system in which they work their magic.”
Tun is larger than life. Najib to Guan Eng to Mat Sabu to Hadi can’t compare in terms of the ketaksuban which the Tun diehards have for their ayahanda maksum. That’s why my recommendation is to write-off the Protun votes and go for Perpaduan Ummah.
re: “We know they are scoundrels and the masses are idiots.”
DAP evangelistas are bigger scoundrels, and the (small sliver of the) masses who are still clinging on to their delusion that Annie is an awek cun are truly idiots.
re: “The key here is how do we get everyone to play ball?”
Have a National Prayer Day to telegram to God to make Malaysians more discerning and not swallow black propaganda hook, line and sinker.
re: “I hope Tun Mahathir keeps it up. The more the elites claw at each other, the more the average joes can open their eyes and think about the lies those in power keep telling everyone else.”
I don’t agree. DAP lies and lies and lies and lies. In the scenario of Tun and Najib tearing each other apart, DAP gains the advantage of injecting their venom deep into the national bloodstream.
Najib must go for the jugular now to contain Tun and hopefully BN will be able to recover in time to face GE14 without the dangerous distraction of Tun and MCA stabbing from within the fold.
Correction, one missing word:
Annie is a sore loser who can’t accept that he didn’t get the Johor-Khaled-take no prisoners and Mukhriz outcome forecasts CORRECT.
There are a few other minor typos above but I’ll leave them for you to pardon since my reply is rather long, whereby tapping fingers failed to keep up with brain speed.
Happy Chinese New Year to you too Helen!
In hindsight everything is 20/20. Perhaps Annie was too thick in the false optimism and euphoria at the time that he (and his colleagues) didn’t see the bus coming. I think that would be a fair assessment of the state of mind of the political operatives in Johor. And boy did UMNO almost paid the ultimate price for it.
I think it is logical that the cult of Tun is larger than Najib’s. The grand old man was in power for over two decades. RPK (and many others) now declare his influence is spent with Mukhriz undone. I think that’s silly and premature.
You’re a marked woman for the DAP cybertroopers. That comes with the territory. Don’t let them spoil your day. I have personally interacted with Mei Fun on a number of occasions. Decent enough person, but politics will drag her through mud again when she contests (if she does). Never saw a clean campaign in my life so far. Come to think of it, never saw a smart one either.
People fed on the sainthood of the opposition party will come to a rude awakening when the clowns win office. However, I believe the longer Najib stays, the brighter the chance Pakatan has in the next general elections. That to me is way too obvious. It is not that perpaduan ummah is too far fetched, it is because the people are sick of the extravagance. The new rich will be crass, but that should shake up the elite gravy train a little.
re: “You’re a marked woman for the DAP cybertroopers. That comes with the territory.”
On a micro level, looking at how the DAP cytros have turned Life of Annie into an obsessive and demented hate site should provide a clue on the macro level as to what the evangelical party will do to our country.
Anyway, do enjoy the rest of the fortnight. I’m going to (try to) cook Joo Hoo Char mother’s recipe on Chap Goh Meh, fingers crossed.
Cheers to you.
By the way, on the issue of DAP/Chinese killed off Ghani Othman in Gelang Patah. Once it was made known that Khalid Nordin was going to be the new Menteri Besar of Johor after the election, UMNO members and others in the party, moved to “kill him off”. You just had to be in Gelang Patah to watch the lack lustre campaigning by BN for Ghani to get the impression there was a tacit understanding to make sure he losses. The local UMNO was ambivalent, MCA was indifferent and MIC and PPP well little said is better. The message sent out was you cannot have two tigers in a mountain, so you cannot have Khalid as the MB and an influential Ghani in Johor at Federal level.
I still recall one function in Stadium Mini Tun Aminah, Ghani looked forlorn and lost and those BN members would hardly clap to whatever being spoken by Ghani to the crowd.
In short, Kit Siang won because UMNO and Malays and BN parties simply hedged and moved to Khalid. Annie the Fraud, well he knows nuts.
re: “You just had to be in Gelang Patah to watch the lack lustre campaigning by BN for Ghani to get the impression there was a tacit understanding to make sure he losses.”
So I heard too, Norman. But Annie the Fraud on the ground seem to have missed it all, being Ghani’s loudest cheerleader as he was.
re: “Annie the Fraud, well he knows nuts.”
A case of the person on ground level being only able to look as far as the eye can see, while the person with the benefit of hindsight has an aerial perspective.
That is why man created a profession known today as a lobbyist. That’s what The Fraud does, only this time The Fraud is a lobbyist for the opposition since he was outed.
The established elites have the fame, the wealth, the power for a very long time, so they tend to behave better whereas the newly rich, the new elites, since they are of the ‘uncouth’ stock, we can safely say these newbies will ‘misbehave’. Hannah’s antics, and those of her ilk, well, no surprises really. Dirty ‘stocks’ tend to do that.
Most people will believe what they want to believe. That’s why they will only hear what they want to hear, see what they want to see. It’s just to confirm what they believe all along.
When it comes to politics, all politicians are scoundrels. The question is, whose scoundrels ? Najib, despite all his flaws, his ‘scandals’, is still a high class scoundrel. No uncouth demeanour, foul language. Then you look at what people like Hannah have been serving the nation for the past 7, 8 years and ask yourself, who’s the ‘better’ person ? I m simply saying that people of ‘dirty’ stock are not fit to lead. And guess what ? Today’s DAP are full of people of ‘dirty’ stock.
The only fraud here is a pathetic smelly failed blogger. And that’s you fatso Ang. And oh yes – your groupies like gr and Norman have the same amount of credibility as you
This is Annie favourite WW 2 fighter aeroplane.”She”‘made an article on it. Excuse me for being such a stereotype, but checks don’t dog those kind of things. I begin to have doubt after that. I stop read her blog after. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152
I’m lost for words. Just simply accusing like that. Walao !! https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/329882
Kan dia tu Raja Fitnah.
In the mean time, go read RPK’s latest deep throat expose. Get your Shandong groundnuts ready with Bundaberg root beer.
Dear Cik Helen,
Majority of us women are not politically active. Esp Muslim women, we have our responsibilities all laid out in the Quran, you baca sendiri and you will understand why many Muslim women just steer away from politics.Tengok saja dalam Cabinet berapa kerat women Ministers/Dep Ministers representing us?
However when it comes to votes, our one vote is as powerful as a man’s one vote.
I came from an all girls’ school. We meet regularly, however politic is one taboo topic.. we keep that out of our conversations, thts how our bond over the years remained intact. So if this “Annie” is a male (as claimed) and also once a reporter in NST..I am sure he is aware of this situation.
….Jadi macam mana nak libatkan wanita dalam pentas politic and the most crucial of them all, how to influence and lure women and get them to vote for “your” team?. We don’t have many women bloggers right?.
I visited Annie’s blog few times before, don’t like it as some visitors, aduh mak..bahasa mereka guna agak kurang manis/sopan.. I am not surprise if Annie is actually a male.
Annie ni pasti minat kdrama cerita2 macam “you are beautiful”. An aspiring nun who hoidwinked her housemates, team and kpop world into believing she is a male singer!
Helen,
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From 35. Helen Ang | February 11, 2016 at 11:07 am
re : “The emphasis is not on my own ‘pious’ virtues. I’m highlighting your high nuisance value.”
re: “It’s the latter reason, most definitely. That’s why all your retarded grins (the OD on smiley emoticons).”
re: “It’s not your vote I’m concerned about. It’s your village that is the worry. They’re desperately searching for their idiot who wandered off.”
re: “I feel fine. You should go home. Your village is looking for you.”
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Hmm… this is not like you, Helen. :(
I am quite surprised to get such a emotional response from you :(
I do not think that any of my responses to you have been rude or out of line.
I believe my commentary has always given due regard to you as the blog owner whilst retaining my own independent view.
I have since noticed some other rather rude responses towards my commentary from other commentators.
For example,
“63. grkumar | February 10, 2016 at 4:55 pm
An idiot like you will never have that experience at all so don’t hold your breath or embellish your otherwise idiotic comments with smiley”
But you will note that I do not respond in kind to them because the tone and tenor of their response indicates that I have picked them up in their point, in this case, the fantastical claim that amounts like RM2.6billion gets mistakenly transferred into the wrong accounts every day!!
Well, anyway, it was an interesting response from you.
Thank you :)
Ms H. With your permission, I seek to remind all that the dysfunctional elites of Singapore, Bilahari Kausikan and his non-delusional crew have already labelled your Dapsters and Anne as ‘DELUSIONAL CHINESE’ in their non-delusional opus published in the Straits Times, Singapore on 5 October 2015 with the delusional title “Singapore is not an island”!
Wish you’d use your AK47 on the complex-stricken and always-in-denial them.
Good of you to call them “dysfunctional elites of Singapore”, though the words “ultra kiasus” should replace “elites”.
Kak, berkali2 akak menyerang Annie, ada apa2 ke kak seperti yang Syed outside the box katakan tu?
Kami tak kesah Annie tu lelaki ke, perempuan ke, sekadar identiti samarannya di alam maya, Nora sasterawan negara juga mengunakan samaran nama perempuan.
Yang penting dia tak bunuh orang, tak simen orang dalam tong dram tak letupkan mana2 perempuan, dan tak menyusahkan rakyat marhain macam kami dengan kenaikan kos sara hidup.
re: “Kak, berkali2 akak menyerang Annie”
Annie si pendusta dan pemfitnah yang hari-hari serang saya. Sampai Tahun Baru Cina (perayaan yang orang Cina macam saya menyambutnya) pun dia tak menghormati. Saya cuti dan juga sakit batuk – seminggu tak berblogging tapi Annie masih terus serang saya sepanjang minggu CNY.
re: “ada apa2 ke kak seperti yang Syed outside the box katakan tu?”
SAA tidak berkata apa-apa tentang saya. Sebaliknya beliau mendedahkan bahawa Annie Anakin seorang “prepaid” selain lelaki menyamar sebagai awek cun.
re: “Kami tak kesah Annie tu lelaki ke, perempuan ke”
Annie Anakin seorang pembohong dan penipu beserta pemfitnah. Annie akan menerima azab dan balasan daripada Tuhan atas dosanya yang banyak itu.
re: “sekadar identiti samarannya di alam maya, Nora sasterawan negara juga mengunakan samaran nama perempuan”
Itu penulis novel dan rekaan fiksyennya dari segi hasil karya. Ini Annie Anakin menipu dan terus tipu tak habis-habis para pembacanya. Pembohongan Annie bukan berpaut kepada watak-watak fiksyen tetapi merupakan cerita ciptaan dan fitnah terhadap rakan dan juga seteru blogger.
Ramai dari kalangan blogger, wartawan dan orang politik yang kenal identiti Annie Anakin yang sebenarnya. Lebih ramai lagi yang sudah jelek dengan karenah Annie. Sebab itulah tidak ada seorang pun blogger Melayu atau Umno yang rela tampil untuk mempertahankannya.
Hanya pentaksub Tun yang buta hati saja yang tak boleh nampak kerana sudah ditutup hidayah.
re: “Yang penting dia tak bunuh orang, tak simen orang dalam tong dram tak letupkan mana2 perempuan”
Sirul yang bunuh orang kini dibela oleh Tun Mahathir.
re: “dan tak menyusahkan rakyat marhain macam kami dengan kenaikan kos sara hidup”
Kedai kopi Cina di Subang Jaya naikkan harga secawan kopi pun boleh pembaca Malaysiakini salahkan Umno, http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/331612
With much respect on your writing i really dont see why the labelling such as protun pronajib or prowhatever should be in the article written by one as reputable as yourself. I like your blog and i even used it as yardstick to bash Hannah Yeoh every time.
Nevertheless
Everyone deserve to voice their opinion and such with tremendous issues bogging down our dearly pm cause by none other except himself you as genuine writer should be more professional in this issues.
Those who voices their opinion as seems fit via consumption of related facts and trails of event especially the standing of the accused from the accuser did little justice to prevent them from being accused as the culprits in the whole conundrum.
Instead lies after lies denial after denials that unfortunately proven otherwise doesn’t seems to be on their side either.
Now the big question why are those whose clearly voicing their opinion from the expose after expose been labelled as protuns? Is it because tun a champion in this course?
Do you really think general public or Malaysian in general have no conscience or remotely no sense of belonging to upheld and seek and demand the truth?
Are we that low to the eyes of your group with those fancy writers and bloggers because we merely seeking and stand by the truth exposed but denied and lied and twist by you writers without conscience? Shall we labelled you by calling names too?
One last question do you really know what happen in 1mdb src and all those cases? Really? Do you or are you willing to stand witness that you know about the whole transaction and stand correct beside the accused that you know he is innocent?
Unless and until you truly convince please refrain from labelling others. Be yourself Helen so i able to respect and read your blog again.
Thank you.
re: “i really dont see why the labelling such as protun pronajib or prowhatever should be in the article written by one as reputable as yourself.”
It is an accurate categorization.
re: “I like your blog and i even used it as yardstick to bash Hannah Yeoh every time.”
Hannah Yeoh may be mildly malicious but she is nowhere in the league of the Protun and their DAP goaders/handlers.
In all the years HY has been covered in my blog, I’ve never called her unequivocally a “liar” or a “fraud” (hypocritical, yes).
re: “Everyone deserve to voice their opinion”
They do but they do not deserve a free pass to distort facts, concoct lies and label anyone remotely supporting the status quo with all kinds of names (“corrupt”, “prepaid”, “pemakan dedak”).
re: “and such with tremendous issues bogging down our dearly pm”
All the more reason those spinmeisters plotting to topple him through faking ‘evidence’ – such as the fabricated ‘charge sheet’ and the lie about MACC preferring (recommended) charges published by TMI which the panel advisors denied – should be held to account.
The opposition tell lies 24/7. On a separate issue, Tabung Haji has made a police report against Rafizi.
re: “cause by none other except himself you as genuine writer should be more professional in this issues”
I do not blog about 1MDB. However, I try to respond as best I can when readers bring up the topic. It is the oppo who are being dastardly (unprofessional). Justo is in jail in Thailand for industrial espionage.
And he claimed that bosses of The Edge cheated him. He alleged that they offered to pay him for the stolen e-mail – a crime of buying stolen data – but when he delivered the pen drive, they reneged on the promised payment (no honour among thieves and crooks).
Justo has claimed they doctored the e-mail used by Sarawak Report.
You’re so concerned about any potential wrongdoing by 1MDB and Najib but you don’t care about the truth wrt the wrongdoings of the opposition which have been proven … after all, Justo is in jail as he has pleaded guilty.
re: “Those who voices their opinion as seems fit via consumption of related facts and trails of event”
Opinions are not fact. And when we counter their false opinions and outright lies with real facts, we’re labelled “pemakan dedak”. As an unrelated (to 1MDB) example, the smear campaign against Najib and Rosmah over their purported RM20,000 dinner of wagyu beef which the oppo Black Ops viralled in social media recently.
re: “especially the standing of the accused from the accuser did little justice to prevent them from being accused as the culprits in the whole conundrum”
It is the Protuns who have been piling on accusation after accusation, and throwing everything and the kitchen sink. Even the hantaran to a young newlywed (Najib’s daughter) was the subject of fitnah by Tun requiring a rare public clarification and rebuke by the Kazakh bridegroom.
re: “Instead lies after lies denial after denials that unfortunately proven otherwise doesn’t seems to be on their side either.”
From my experience of observing politics the past 10 years, the “lies after lies” and “denial after denials” proliferate among the DAP and PKR. I used to have a negative opinion of Umno but at least I never thought that Umno is dajjal.
re: “Now the big question why are those whose clearly voicing their opinion from the expose after expose been labelled as protuns?”
An example of a Protun is the blogger Annie Anakin. He is a liar and a fraud and he’s been slandering non-stop.
Other Protuns, through their actions, will cause BN to lose the next election, e.g. Muhyiddin and the band of Protun bloggers.
re: “Is it because tun a champion in this course?”
Tun is just using 1MDB as a means to oust Najib.
He is willing to grab at anything that he can use as a stick to wallop Najib — be it the PM’s stepson in Hollywood, the PM’s daughter’s extravagant “Wedding of the Century” (description coined by Tun) or even championing convicted killer Sirul. As things stand, 1MDB happens to be the best weapon at hand.
Abdullah Badawi did not have 1MDB or RM2.6b donation but Tun whacked him black-and-blue anyway, and palyed a role in BN’s loss of 2/3 majority. Once Tun is determined that PM no.5 and PM no.6 had to go, he’d find any excuse to get at them.
re: “Do you really think general public or Malaysian in general have no conscience or remotely no sense of belonging to upheld and seek and demand the truth?”
Do you really think the section of the public who desire to maintain the status quo have no conscience or interest in the well-being of our country? Has it not occurred to you that we have rationally evaluated the situation and our considered appraisal is that the DAP is the bigger evil menacing our country’s future compared to Najib’s Umno?
re: “Are we that low to the eyes of your group with those fancy writers and bloggers because we merely seeking and stand by the truth exposed”
‘You’ (not you specifically but some Protuns) are the ones menghina us with the cluck, cluck, cluck “pemakan dedak” label.
re: “but denied and lied and twist by you writers without conscience?”
It is the writers of the oppo media who have been questioned for sedition and their publications blocked. They are the ones who lie and twist without any compunction, so much so that action by police and other regulatory/enforcement authorities have to be taken against them.
re: “Shall we labelled you by calling names too?”
I’m one of the chief targets of the DAP smear campaign and dirty tactics. The names they’ve been calling me can fill a Goebbels guidebook on ‘How to Demonize Your Opponent’.
re: “One last question do you really know what happen in 1mdb src and all those cases? Really?”
If I choose not to blog about these issues, why put the onus on me to know the details?
re: “Do you or are you willing to stand witness that you know about the whole transaction and stand correct beside the accused that you know he is innocent?”
From my experience, it is the opposition who are the liars.
Unrelated to 1MDB but The Malaysian Inciter is a proven liar even to the extent of doctoring a photograph to kenakan Hadi Awang. TMI also kenakan the Majlis Fatwa by concocting a non-existent fatwa (falsely claiming that the Fatwa Council forbade Muslims from wishing Karpal Singh RIP).
I have a very clear idea of what kind of fitnah the opposition spread and what they’re capable of doing. I know that BN still has some scruples. I’m convinced that the oppo has none.
PAS has realised the same after seven years of up-close-and-personal with the DAP. That’s the reason PAS is softening towards its traditional nemesis Umno. Compared with the mendajjal (dajjal behaviour) of the DAP which PAS got many nasty doses of, Umno has begun to appear like a tame pussycat to PAS.
re: “Unless and until you truly convince please refrain from labelling others.”
Those labelled ‘Protun’ deserve to be called so. It is nothing compared to the malicious and demeaning names that the oppo have heaped on the establishment.
re: “Be yourself Helen so i able to respect and read your blog again.”
Like I said, at this juncture we have to pick our side. My opinion is that the Dapsters are no hope, no cure. If the Protuns still want to bersekongkol (collude) with them, then the Protuns should also expect to be marginalized from the national mainstream.
There can only be one side winning GE14 and retaining Putrajaya.