PAS’s tie-up with Ikatan is just a smokescreen

March 25, 2016 at 3:06 am 53 comments

The parti Islam’s real hook-up is with the parti Melayu.

You see, the seven years PAS spent in the Pakatan viper’s pit has not been entirely wasted. The Islamic party learned a thing or two — one of which is the “agree to disagree” convenient tactic whenever they [mainly the DAP snake] wanted to cop out.

The mosquito party Ikatan claims to be multiracial. This feature makes for a perfect excuse so that PAS can maintain a flexibility on contentious issues – say hudud – with the pretext that the matter is not contained in the pact’s “common policy framework”.

BELOW: Najib was right when he said back in 2012 that the oppo’s Buku Jingga was merely a laundry list of motherhood statements

http://www.malaysiandigest.com/news/36-local2/121991-pm-buku-jingga-not-worth-the-paper-its-printed-on.html

http://www.malaysiandigest.com/news/36-local2/121991-pm-buku-jingga-not-worth-the-paper-its-printed-on.html

Nobody can seriously believe that Ikatan is a party of any consequence.

There’s no advantage for PAS to ally itself with such a flea weight except that it provides a cover for the real co-operation that’s going on behind the scenes, i.e. PAS and Umno secretly dating but not yet making their engagement official or public.

BELOW: Najib’s charm offensive on PAS Youth; Nik Abduh was never seen to warm up to DAP or PKR’s head honchos

najib nik abduh

In the aftermath of PAS’s harrowing up close and personal experience with the DAP, the parti Islam has realized that, in contrast, hey Umno ain’t so bad after all.

I mean, how can working together with Umno be in any way worse than with the anti-Islam DAP? Akin to PAS, Umno is Malay and Muslim whereas DAP is full of Christians.

Furthermore, both PAS and Umno share the same grievances. The party presidents had their portraits (read: pijak kepala) diinjak-injak oleh Cina biadab.

PAS has also been treated by DAP  to the same deadly enmity that the evangelical party usually directs at Umno.

On the other hand, the tangible benefit of aligning with Umno is that combined, PAS and Umno between them have enough clout to impose a Malay-Muslim hegemony on the country. Retaining Putrajaya on a Malay tsunami will allow the Umno-PAS combo to do whatever they like in the interests of Agama dan Bangsa.

As one example of taking a course of action befitting the stature of a negara Islam, Dewan Pemuda PAS supports establishing a Parliamenary caucus to abolish legal gambling — see Nik Abduh’s latest press statement via his Facebook link above.

And here’s how they’re going to make the rest of the Malay hegemony happen.

Empat Sekawan frame

MCA buat bodoh jer when its party president emeritus Ling Liong Sik pulled the stunt above.

The BN Chinese component party similarly folded its arms and did nothing either when the media empire (Nest of Evangelistas) under its control subtly scratched a thousand little knife cuts in Najib and Umno’s back.

To return the favour, Umno can act like a bodoh sepat too when PAS contests the Malay-majority seats traditionally given to MCA to stand.

With Umno folding its arms and buat tak tahu, PAS is guaranteed to win the Malay-majority seats lost or held by MCA.

MCA juga gerenti bungkus PRU14 nanti. During that juncture, PAS can bring the raft of Parliament seats it won off the MCA to the negotiation table with BN.

Post GE14, there is no valid reason for MCA to be thick skinned and opting to remain within the BN fold when it has zero seats to show. By then, PAS can more than fittingly fill the vacancy.

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  • 1. Melayu Malaysia  |  March 25, 2016 at 5:37 am

    “With Umno folding its arms and buat tak tahu, PAS is guaranteed to win the Malay-majority seats lost or held by MCA.”

    Spot on, Ms Ang….

    dalam hati dah berbuku dengan perangai orang MCA, no different from their so-called foe, the DAP

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  • 2. Aku Melayu  |  March 25, 2016 at 5:54 am

    Syukur Alhamdulillah! Perpaduan ummah (UMNO & PAS) amat dialu-alukan. Biarkan Mahathir dan kuncu-kuncumya berkawan rapat dengan DAP. Sooner or later they realize they hate each other and Mahathir might die of a broken heart- his wish to see his beloved son Mukhriz to be the PM tak kesampaian.

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  • 3. Akim  |  March 25, 2016 at 7:28 am

    If the Malays can get united under UMNO and PAS, well and fine. The question is: can they? Will they?

    Nik Abduh is a promising figure in that respect. But there are those sceptical about it and even still holding vengeance against UMNO, the kind that Nik Abduh’s father, Nik Aziz, carried to his grave.

    And many in PAS must have seen the excesses of Najib and his administration in running the country. One cannot escape mentioning 1MDB and the RM2.6 billion scandal. They are so huge, bigger than the elephant in the room, and Projibs saying no proof, Apandi saying no wrong doing by Najib will not erase images of corruption that exist in the minds of PAS members.

    And they surely would have read Mahathir suing Najib for corruption etc. Bear in mind that the rakyat did not benefit a cent from the RM2.6 billion that landed in Najib’s personal bank accounts.

    PAS may want to work with UMNO but not with Najib loaded with that kind of baggage. That’s why Tun’s “Save Malaysia” campaign is aimed at getting Najib withdraw or be replaced. Tun will have the means to ensure that the campaign will not go overboard and UMNO/BN will remain in power after Najib is out.

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    • 4. Helen Ang  |  March 25, 2016 at 11:06 am

      re: “If the Malays can get united under UMNO and PAS, well and fine. The question is: can they? Will they?”

      Malaysia Boleh!

      re: “Nik Abduh is a promising figure in that respect.”

      He looks youthful and fresh faced compared to KJ even though he’s older. Muka Khairy takde seri.

      re: “even still holding vengeance against UMNO, the kind that Nik Abduh’s father, Nik Aziz, carried to his grave”

      Janganlah hasad dengki dibawa ke kubur. Bottomline for PAS: Who is the bigger enemy (threat to Islam)? A Malay party whose members are Muslim or an evangelical party whose members are predominantly Chinese?

      re: “And many in PAS must have seen the excesses of Najib and his administration in running the country.”

      It was PAS and Harakah who called Tun the “mahafiraun”. Invoking the Egyptian pharaohs conveys the imagery of glittery gold excesses.

      re: “One cannot escape mentioning 1MDB and the RM2.6 billion scandal.”

      Tun was said by AWSJ editor Barry Wain to have squandered a total of RM100 billion (currency value between 1980s and 2000s). Tun’s scandals included speculation on forex, trying to corner the tin market, attempting to get into heavy industry (but Perwaja Steel flopped), etc, etc

      re: “They are so huge, bigger than the elephant in the room”

      Many elephants. In fact, woolly mammoths in the room.

      re: “and Projibs saying no proof”

      Show lah.

      re: “Apandi saying no wrong doing by Najib”

      Why distrust the AG? I hope the Protuns will not character assassinate the Auditor-General next.

      re: “And they surely would have read Mahathir suing Najib for corruption etc.”

      Anybody can sue anybody.

      Anwar sued Nalla – no case. Anwar sued Chandra – no case. LGE sued Tantawi, no case. LGE sued Dr Zuhdi … why are we waiting, why are we waiting? Dr Zuhdi is eager to see Guan Eng in court.

      re: “Bear in mind that the rakyat did not benefit a cent from the RM2.6 billion that landed in Najib’s personal bank accounts.”

      Maybe Umno Johor Bahru’s 27,000 members got RM37 each worth in kind (kenduri makan ke, T-shirt & cap ke ape), broadly speaking

      re: “PAS may want to work with UMNO but not with Najib loaded with that kind of baggage.”

      PAS did not want to work with Tun M and Tun Dol. So Najib is an improvement.

      re: That’s why Tun’s ‘Save Malaysia’ campaign is aimed at getting Najib withdraw or be replaced.”

      He should do it through proper channels. Either get the party delegates to vote out Najib as Umno president, move a vote of no confidence against the PM in Parliament or impeach him.

      Choosing to ‘Save Malaysia’ by helping hand over power to the DAP is a betrayal.

      re: “Tun will have the means to ensure that the campaign will not go overboard and UMNO/BN will remain in power after Najib is out.”

      How will he have the means? He does not hold any government posts. Not even a GLC post like advisor of Petronas. From the get-go, the campaign is controlled by the Christians as in the March 27 Easter Sunday date.

      Tun does not even have control over the event date nor venue.

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      • 5. tebing tinggi  |  March 25, 2016 at 10:30 pm

        PAS has said UMNO is ‘kafir’ and they haven’t retract it ,anyway why should they anyway ,with UMNO uncertain support from the Malays ,they can do on their own .

        Najib trying to be closer to PAS just for Malay base support ,that he might lose from UMNO Malays and other Malays .

        With UMNO election extended ,he need a broad Malay support to retain to power ,knowing very well the Chinese are not with BN.

        Is this a Perpaduan Umah ?, it’s about politic of power. All Muslim supposed to be brothers ,but PAS has thought different .

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        • 6. Helen Ang  |  March 25, 2016 at 10:44 pm

          re: “support that he might lose from UMNO Malays and other Malays”

          Realistically, yes. The Protun vote looks about as hostile as the Chinese vote.

          In GE13 (2013), Najib was still trying to woo the Chinese back. I believe he should learn from the tsunami experience and write off the Protun segment instead of wasting time and effort. Shift his efforts to getting the PAS-Islamist vote — lebih berbaloi.

          re: “With UMNO election extended, he need a broad Malay support to retain to power”

          Correct. And Tun is hell-bent on chipping away Malay support from Najib-Umno.

          re: “Is this a Perpaduan Ummah?”

          It is perpaduan Melayu. All Melayu in Malaysia are supposed to be Muslim. The opposition that is trying to grab power is being led by DAP evangelistas.

          re: “it’s about politic of power”

          Addin does not separate politics from religion.

          re: “All Muslim supposed to be brothers but PAS has thought different”

          The Quran taught 2:120.

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    • 7. Mohd Salim  |  March 25, 2016 at 11:52 am

      Bro,
      If our mutual goal is perpaduan ummah, why are we bringing up issues that can defeat that goal. Shouldn’t we be trying to silence these issues? Let’s say for arguments sake that there is some truth to your pov of Najib, what good will it bring to us to highlight it further? If he is able to unite the Malays and give us the absolute control that we must have, why does it matter what he has (purportedly) done.
      Ultimately we will win because we can destroy the pendatang menace once and for all. Let’s put it this way, if you house is on fire and the only other people in the vicinity are a bunch of thieves, shouldn’t your focus be to first stop the fire? Why get into unnecessary moral arguments about working with a thief, when your very survival is at stake.

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      • 8. Selective amnesia  |  March 25, 2016 at 12:13 pm

        Perpaduan ummah? No points for guessing which islamists have been tearing at the fabric of Malay unity for the last 30 years.

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      • 9. MeorUSA  |  March 25, 2016 at 11:31 pm

        Fire was set by the household ,the thief.

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      • 10. Kung  |  March 26, 2016 at 12:21 am

        Re: “Ultimately we will win because we can destroy the pendatang menace once and for all.”

        I beg your pardon young man? If you are calling all the Chinese, Indians and others as “menace” that must be destroyed, then you must be morally stunted. Isn’t the prime importance for Malaysia to be multiculturally united in diversity? You musn’t allow bad elements in any racial or religious group to be an excuse for prejudicial attitudes and stereotyping….. I realize the country is going through a hard time so please let us all practice self-discipline. Wisdom also is considered by the sages as a fundamental virtue along with true courage, self-control and sense of justice. And I think such virtues – and their opposite evils – are universal characteristics among people of all groups. The good must be constantly cultivated.

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    • 11. Akim  |  March 26, 2016 at 7:49 am

      I would like to see perpaduan ummah in this country. But I cannot see it happening so long as Najib leads UMNO. However endearing Nik Abduh may appear in the photograph with Najib donning the ketayap.

      Hadi is a shrewd PAS leader. He appears to be listening to all sides, the Ulama, the Youth, and others. Of course, after most PAS members saw Mat Sabu and the so-called professionals group being “melampau”, Hadi ignored them, they were defeated at the PAS Muktamar. Imagine, the Muktamar delegates wanted Hadi to be PM and Hadi was elated beyond description.

      The vengeful-against-UMNO Nik Aziz is no more but his kafir mengkafir, sembahyang hajat KO UMNO and venomous accusations still reverberate in the minds of the old generation PAS members and supporters. Imagine. not long ago they even prayed in separate suraus and mosques with different Imams. The surau and kedai kopi chats sure make them fairly well informed of the many things wrong under Najib, notably corruption, the 1MDB and the RM2.6 billion. Hadi is aware of those, too, and, despite Najib’s nice gestures of visiting him and Haron Din when ill at the hospital, they have kept quiet on suggestions of UMNO-PAS teaming up.

      Of course, the suggestion is to wait until PRU14 and PAS contesting, with silent UMNO consent, the MCA seats. But the risk is too high – UMNO may kiok if anything happens to the seats now held by UMNO and the coalition in Sabah and Sarawak. It must be noted that many of the ummah on both sides of the divide have, due to the 1MDB and RM2.6 billion issue, said either not voting or even plainly voting the Oppo at PRU14. To avoid DAP being in Putrajaya by default, Najib needs to undur or be replaced.

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      • 12. Keris  |  March 26, 2016 at 1:18 pm

        It is unfortunately true that the PAS leaders in the last few decades have been trying to substitute the traditional understanding of Islam among the Malays with their Wahhabi islamism. They have been making takfir (accusing others of religious heresy) towards Muslims who have any association with the UMNO government. This constant political propaganda has caused much resentment and condemnation back and forth among the Malay people. It has psychologically polarized us to quarrel and fight for political power and favours.

        Narrated ‘Uqba bin ‘Amir: “One day the Prophet s.a.w. went out and offered the funeral prayers for the martyrs of Uhud and then he ascended the pulpit and said, “I will pave the way for you as your predecessor and will be a witness over you. By Allah! I see my Heavenly Spring (al-Kauthar) just now and I have been given the keys to all the treasures of the earth . By Allah! I am not afraid that you will worship others along with Allah Most High after my death, but I am afraid that you will fight one another for the things of the world!”

        (vol. 2, book 23, no. 428 Sahih Bukhari)

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        • 13. Abdullah  |  March 26, 2016 at 5:21 pm

          The Takfiris are a great curse upon the ummat of Muhammad s.a.w., and their terrible product nowadays as Islamic State’s uncivilized cruelty was what the blessed Prophet s.a.w. actually came upon earth to eradicate and change 1400 years ago.

          Lesson from Abu Huraira r.a. the prophetic companion who transmitted the most hadith about Prophet Muhammad s.a.w.:

          “We were sitting in a circle in Kufa with Abu Hurayra whereupon a young man passed by. A man sitting amongst us said: ‘This is a Kafir belonging to the people of the Fire.’
          So Abu Hurayra rose and went to the young man, asking him: ‘Who are you?’ He replied: Son of so-and-so.’ Abu Hurayra said: ‘Allah have mercy on your father!’ The young man was looking around, so Abu Hurayra asked him: ‘What are you looking for?’ He replied: ‘I have not prayed yet.’ Abu Hurayra said: ‘So you pray?’ The young man replied: ‘Subhan Allah!’ (Allah Most Sublime!) Abu Hurayra: ‘And you say Subhan Allah?’ He added: ‘La Ilaha illAllah!!’ Abu Hurayra: ‘And you say La Ilaha illAllah?’ The young man said: “I would not leave Salat (daily prayers) even if I were offered all there is on the face of the earth.” Abu Hurayra exclaimed: “Allah have mercy on you. Allah have mercy on you. Allah have mercy on you!”
          Then he came back to his seat in the circle and said: ‘I heard the Messenger of Allah say: “Whoever bears testimony against a Muslim about which the latter is innocent, let the accuser prepare himself for a place in the Hell-Fire.”
          [Imam Ibn Asakir in Tibyan al-Kadhib al-Muftari]

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    • 14. Akim  |  March 26, 2016 at 8:23 am

      It’s nonsense for anyone to say that the Mahathir-led assembly to morrow 27 March is designed to be an Arab Spring. It’s held indoors, at the Convention Centre, Shah Alam – it’s not even a street demonstration.

      On top of those, Zaid has notified the Police a month ago and the venue – indoors – is one that, like a stadium, the Police have always preferred in the past. The IGP yesterday said the Police have not been notified of the April 2 gathering calling on Najib to step down as the PM but that’s over a month away. He has acknowledged that to-morrow’s 27 March assembly has been given permission by advising the speakers not to utter seditious remarks. So, it’s ok to attend to-morrow’s assembly, folks.

      17 speakers have been scheduled to say more about the 47 Deklarasi Rakyat. There must be interesting revelations and reiterations of the wrongs done by and under Najib. A huge part must be on the 1MDB and the RM2.6 billion.

      Presumably, there would be much more than the 40 “Questionable Answers” on the RM2.6 billion that a disenchanted rakyat has listed out some time back. And more of the kind that’ll shoot down lame excuses like the Saudi Foreign Minister using the words “I believe” when denying that the RM2.6 billion was a donation by an Arab royal family. Bank Negara Malaysia and MACC have evidence, submitted to the previous AG, but ignored by Apandi who told them to cease investigations and now even the former Chief Justice Tun Zaki has said it was wrong for him to do that.

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      • 15. Helen Ang  |  March 26, 2016 at 11:42 am

        re: “It’s nonsense for anyone to say that the Mahathir-led assembly to morrow 27 March is designed to be an Arab Spring.”

        The Mahathir-led assembly to morrow 27 March is designed to be an Arab Spring CATALYST.

        re: “The IGP yesterday said the Police have not been notified of the April 2 gathering calling on Najib to step down as the PM but that’s over a month away.”

        The April 2 demo is supposedly anti-GST.

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  • 16. Akim  |  March 25, 2016 at 7:46 am

    “how can working together with Umno be in any way worse than with the anti-Islam DAP?” –

    Tun Mahathir working together with Lim Kit Siang is not on a permanent basis. Nobody has said so. Everybody knows DAP has been and will continue to be anti-Malay, anti-Islam and caused the race riots of 1969.

    But the situation is dire now. PRU14 is just 2 years away. Najib already got the worst election results of all UMNO Presidents in history. He even lost the popular vote at PRU13. Then the 1MDB and the RM2.6 billion scandal blew up in his face. Voters’ perception of Najib is so bad that UMNO/BN will lose at PRU14. This has to be repeated again and again.

    The Deklarasi Rakyat is not a pact among political parties. It’s among leaders of groups and the citizenry who see no other way to improve the situation in the country except by Najib withdrawing or be replaced. That’s what to-morrow.s 27 March assembly is all about.

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    • 17. Helen Ang  |  March 25, 2016 at 10:21 am

      re: “That’s what tomorrow’s 27 March assembly is all about.”

      There are 365 days in a year. This year – being a leap year having Feb 29 – has got 366 days.

      Out of the 366 days of 2016, the liberal Zaid Ibrahim has to choose the one day that is Easter Sunday marking Kristian bangkit (the rising again of Jesus Christ).

      I agree that Tun himself has nothing to do with the date selection but his agreeing to lead the event – its Christian date notwithstanding – shows that at 91, he’s no longer on the ball.

      Same as when Tun was persuaded to sing John Lennon’s Imagine at a public function.

      Again I agree that the song title was not chosen by Tun himself and it probably did not strike him that there could be any adverse connotations to the lyrics, i.e.

      “Imagine there’s no heaven
      It’s easy if you try
      No hell below us
      Above us only sky
      Imagine all the people
      Living for today

      Imagine there’s no countries
      It isn’t hard to do
      Nothing to kill or die for
      And no religion too”

      But still, it all shows that the grand old man is being taken advantage of. It’s actually sad to see them making use of Tun and in the process destroying his legacy among the ex-premier’s formerly ardent fans such as Big Dog and many other nationalist Malays.

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      • 18. HY  |  March 26, 2016 at 10:42 am

        “But still, it all shows that the grand old man is being taken advantage of.” – apa bolih buat, sudah senile lagi mahu buat bising, tapi aku sokong juga.

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  • 19. Mohd Salim  |  March 25, 2016 at 9:49 am

    Helen,
    You are right. This is a very positive development and can only spell good news for bangsa dan agama. In a sense, it is a return to its roots when you consider that PAS was a breakaway faction from UMNO consisting of those who were more Islamic leaning. The ground has shifted greatly as the ‘centre’ today is far more Islamic. Think about popular culture and the behaviour of Malays in the 60s and 70s. Yesterday’s ultra-conservative is today ‘s ‘new normal’ while the old moderate by todays standard is probably just short of being murtad(thankfully!).
    As such, it will not be difficult for UMNO and PAS to close ranks as they are no longer diametrically opposed. In fact a nice symbiosis of sorts could happen with UMNO focusing on bangsa and PAS on ugama.
    UMNO should leave MCA and MIC to take on PAS and no longer mollycoddle them. If they lose, it’s no real loss for UMNO really. In this way, UMNO can hedge it bets. If there is enough pendatang support -great; otherwise no loss for UMNO.
    This is indeed a very good development. Thank you for making my weekend :)

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  • 20. truth  |  March 25, 2016 at 10:56 am

    ramai orang melayu tak tau yang dikatakan TANAH MELAYU bukan setakat semenanjung saja. SUMATERA, KALIMANTAN dan SELATAN THAI juga adalah sebagian daripada tanah melayu.

    pattani, yala, narathiwat, satun, songkla adalah sebahagian daripada tanah melayu before they were given away to thailand under the Anglo-Siamese Treaty of 1909.

    kesultanan melayu pattani telah berkecai dan lenyap. dulu-dulu masa kat sekolah ada la sikit cerita pasal kesultanan melayu pattani tapi kalau pasal kesultanan melayu di sumatera dan borneo-kalimantan hampir2 / langsung takde. empat kesultanan melayu sumatera iaitu negeri langkat darul aman, kesultanan deli, kesultanan serdang dan kesultanan asahan, semua kerajaan melayu ni lenyap dalam tempoh satu malam saja pada 1 mac 1946 apabila istana2 sultan di 4 negeri ni diserang oleh pandatang jawa yang semakin banyak berhijrah ke sumatera. para sultan dan kerabat dibunuh dan dirogol. orang melayu hilang ketuanan-nya.

    1946 is not so long ago for us to forget, just 11 years before merdeka. the remaining malay decendants di sumatra sekarang ibarat melukut di tepi gantang di tanah tumpah darah sendiri.

    di borneo yang tinggal hanyalah kesultanan brunei yang lain2 habis berkecai lenyap.

    bila baca wikipedia baru tau. hebatnya melayu menyembunyikan sejarah sendiri.

    singapura dah bukan lagi tanah melayu yg tinggal hanya sejarah.

    so melayu ! yang tinggal sekarang hanyalah tanah semenanjung yang kecik ni NAK BAGI JUGAK KAT DAP LEPAS NI ???

    tak betul-lah kata2 hang tuah “TAKKAN MELAYU HILANG DI DUNIA”.

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    • 21. Helen Ang  |  March 25, 2016 at 11:14 am

      re: “hebatnya melayu menyembunyikan sejarah sendiri”

      Hahahahahahaha!

      Like the Umno members who are not aware that their party founder is this country’s greatest statesman.

      They should rightly be kagum of Dato’ Onn who’s orang istana.

      Kalau sejarah DAP, memanglah diorang mahu sembunyi. Lim Kit Siang is a second generation pendatang whose father came from China and worked in a pig farm.

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      • 22. truth  |  March 25, 2016 at 11:25 am

        i love dato onn. he is ‘wira bangsa’ yang mengorbankan diri demi bangsa dan negara tak seperti yang seorang tu mengorbankan bangsa dan negara demi diri sendiri.

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        • 23. Helen Ang  |  March 25, 2016 at 11:33 am

          Nowadays people join politics to get jawatan, like Madam Speaker yang gaji diletakkannya sendiri setara dengan gaji Perdana Menteri.

          Dato’ Onn lepaskan jawatannya sebagai Menteri Besar Johor demi untuk membina Umno. Waktu tu, Umno parti pokai.

          Sekitar awal tahun 1950-an, Umno (di’bankroll’) bergantung kepada parti tauke DAP untuk membiayai kempen pilihanrayanya.

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      • 24. Tehtarik  |  March 25, 2016 at 7:20 pm

        So do you mean to say you are not decendant of pendatangs?
        How sure are you ancestors did not work in pig farm before?

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        • 25. Helen Ang  |  March 25, 2016 at 10:48 pm

          re: “So do you mean to say you are not decendant of pendatangs?”

          I’m Peranakan. I’m descended from Baba Nyonya.

          re: “How sure are you ancestors did not work in pig farm before?”

          Not that I’ve heard of.

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    • 26. tebing tinggi  |  March 25, 2016 at 10:42 pm

      truth,
      Apa yang belaku kapada ke Sultanan Melayu di Sumatra ,Borneo dan selatan Thiland ,adalah tidak mustahil bolih belaku di Tanah Melayu .

      Malaysia sekarang ramai pendatang ,sebab itu UMNO pon sudah hilang jiwa Melayu nya .

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      • 27. truth  |  March 26, 2016 at 6:47 pm

        tebing tinggi,

        i rasa you tau sejarah kesultanan melayu di sumatera, sebab tu you tak kutuk i. bukan setakat wikipedia saja yg i baca ada jugak kat tangisanmelayu.blogspot.com dan lagi satu blogger dari johor tapi i tak igt nama blog dia. i presume their sources and articles are very reliable. org kat bawah ni ‘arrogant’ tak nak mengaku kelemahan diri yg diri sendiri x tau.

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    • 28. Akim  |  March 26, 2016 at 1:40 pm

      truth,

      I seriously doubt your “truth”. You sound like a non-Malay trying to make fun of the Malays and kata kata Hang Tuah sehingga di ketawakan dek pendatang. You deserve to be dragged to the seaside, pushed to the sand face downwards and your assol shoved with a sharpened bamboo. Di sula, cara Kesultanan Melayu Melaka.

      Jangan bergantung kapada Wikipedia sebab kamu boleh di gantung. Sesiapa saja boleh menulis di Wikipedia. Tak nampak ke kamu tanda tanda di ruang tepi rencana Wikipedia itu meminta penerangan lanjut, mahukan punca maalumat yang di keluarkan dan bermacam lagi yang menunjukkan penulisan di Wikipedia itu tak boleh di percayai sepenuhnya?

      Ingat, DAP Red Beans telah menggunakan Wikipedia bagi coba “menukarkan sejarah negara ini” saperti suatu rencana yang mengatakan Perang Larut I,II,III&IV di abad 19 telah di sebabkan oleh Melayu. Bedebah ungrateful ingrate ultra kiasu pendatang DAP tak berterima kasih kapada Menteri Larut Ngah Ibrahim yang membawa Cina dari Penang masuk ke Larut untuk kerja di lombong2 bijih timah nya, dan ada yang di pinjamkan nya modal untuk membuka lombong lombong bahru supaya dia boleh cukai untuk membina jalan dsb nya. Tetapi bedebah2 itu membawa kongsi gelap Ghee Hin dan Hai San yang berlawan berbunuh nakkan lebih lombong sehingga mencetuskan perang tersebut.

      Kamu tak tahu pun asal usul Melayu, Rumpun Melayu dan Keluarga Besar Melayu yang merangkumi semua di Gugusan Pulau Pulau Melayu (The Malay Archipelago). Jika kamu Melayu, baca lah “Tamadun Alam Melayu” dan “The Malay Civilization” terbitan Persatuan Sejarah Malaysia yang menerangkan penulisan berpuluh professor berbagai bidang pengajian berkenaan asal usul Melayu dan Rumpun Melayu itu. Jika kamu bukan Melayu, aku akan sentiasa awasi apa yang kamu tulis dan tibai kamu setiap kali kamu mengarut berkenaan Melayu.

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      • 29. Helen Ang  |  March 26, 2016 at 2:03 pm

        Akim,

        re: “You deserve to be dragged to the seaside, pushed to the sand face downwards and your assol shoved with a sharpened bamboo.”

        Exercise some self-restraint lah and mind your language. You’re being too rude to my other commenters.

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        • 30. Akim  |  March 26, 2016 at 3:05 pm

          Helen,

          I disagree that saying so is too rude. Just like you said the word “bitch” was rude. Yet googling it produced articles saying that it is not so and I have explained in the subsequent comment.

          The word “sula” exists in Kamus Dewan Bahasa Dan Pustaka 1970. The punishment :sula” had existed during the Malacca Sultanate and elsewhere – http://www.thepatriots.my/hukuman-sula/

          And the following link even mentions the Sultan “…. adil terhadap hukuman sula ke atas anak perempuannya kerana fitnah” –
          Bab 6 Kemerosotan dan Kejatuhan Kota Madani Melayu … studentsrepo.um.edu.my/644/7/BAB6.pdf …. hayat Kesultanan Melayu Melaka … telah mencapai zaman kegemilangannya ketika pemerintahan Sultan …. adil terhadap hukuman sula ke atas anak perempuannya kerana fitnah.

          Suggesting “sula” be applied merely indicates the severity of the offence a person has committed. Not as bad as burning to death that was said to have happened during Mao Zedong’s time in China in the 1860s – of books and professors.

          But I understand your need to protect your readers. You have my assurance that I will explain anything that you have reservations on.

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          • 31. Helen Ang  |  March 26, 2016 at 3:20 pm

            re: “You have my assurance that I will explain anything that you have reservations on.”

            Don’t explain. Just refrain.

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      • 32. truth  |  March 26, 2016 at 7:12 pm

        you think you are not rude by using those words on people. then you brought all kind of terminologies you find online to justify it.

        in the name of Allah the most high, the most powerful, the most just…if you insist to do what you had intended to do may Allah inflicts your own evils on yourself, humiliated you while you are in this world and hereafter…ameen ya Rabb al-‘alameen.

        semoga Rabb sekalian alam maqbulkan doa i, because it is very difficult for me to utter this kind of doa.

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  • 33. Phobia  |  March 25, 2016 at 11:01 am

    There you go, another example where their agenda primarily involves controlling others. No freedom to exercise willpower, moderation, and self-control, everything will be imposed by people who primarily only know one book.
    The stated aim might be to set up a theocracy but I suspect its objective is to set up moral police regiments to mop up all the graduates with useless degrees.

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    • 34. Helen Ang  |  March 25, 2016 at 11:09 am

      re: “everything will be imposed by people who primarily only know one book.”

      The Bible? You’re talking about the evangelistas, right?

      re: “its objective is to set up moral police regiments to mop up…”

      The cadre hit squads terrorizing cyberspace and the Purple Shirts on the ground are established by the DAP.

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      • 35. Phobia  |  March 25, 2016 at 11:30 am

        Yes, certainly, if we are talking about Singapore, those Christians are the ones marching around and demanding that the government fully enforce the law on people who are not really hurting anybody. Luckily the Singapore government has stopped enforcing some archaic laws, while it also recognizes how difficult it is to repeal those laws in a socially conservative society. Its a good mix for now, the law is there to appease religious nuts, but is not enforced so people of different lifestlyes can live in peace and contribute in their own way.

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        • 36. Helen Ang  |  March 25, 2016 at 11:57 am

          The Christians took control of the boards (NGO) to impose their values and moral policing even though in Singapore, it is the Buddhists who are a slight religious majority at 34 percent.

          The evangelistas are doing the same (being pushy and bossy) here despite that in Malaysia, they’re a minority. The majority religion won’t stand for their behaviour when push comes to shove.

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    • 37. Mohd Salim  |  March 25, 2016 at 11:22 am

      you are missing the key point…..regardless of whatever aspersions you cast as to the ‘right’ of our agenda, we represent the majority. This is MALAYsia and Islam is the religion of the Federation. You may see it as ‘controlling’ but we don’t. If you find it inhospitable, move along. After all, your ancestors did it – when they thought they could get a better life elsewhere, they moved. They didn’t sit and complain. On an evolutionary scale, they were clearly much more competent than what followed.

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    • 38. Mohd Salim  |  March 25, 2016 at 11:42 am

      you seem to be missing the point. Regardless of how you view our agenda, we are the majority. This is MALAYsia and Islam is religion of the federation. What you may see as ‘controlling’ is our way of life and because Islam is the religion of the federation, this ‘controlling’ is something you cannot question. If you don’t ike it, please by all means leave. Afterall, that’s what your ancestors did. When they found conditions to be inhospitable, they moved on. They didn’t sit and whine. From an evolutionary perspective, you seem to be moving backwards……

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  • 39. Surrhead  |  March 25, 2016 at 5:15 pm

    yayaya, PAS should join up with umno, then “Retaining Putrajaya on a Malay tsunami will allow the Umno-PAS combo to do whatever they like in the interests of Agama dan Bangsa.”…..would like to see that happen, where PAS would lose whatever credibility it has now, and along time umno is sure to take PAS for another ride, as it did before…..

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    • 40. RINA  |  March 25, 2016 at 11:52 pm

      Surrhead,
      ….“Retaining Putrajaya on a Malay tsunami will allow the Umno-PAS combo to do whatever they like in the interests of Agama dan Bangsa.”….

      You must be a pendatang or baru datang Malaysia. UMNO and PAS ujud sejak zaman pak kaduk lagi. Kalau UMNO and PAS want to do whatever they like in the interests of Agama dan Bangsa sejak Merdeka, mungkin people like Hannah Yeoh dah lama migrate to Timbuktu (tiap hari desperate terpaksa apply for citizenship all over the world).

      You cakap syiok sendiri ke?

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      • 41. HY  |  March 26, 2016 at 10:50 am

        i can agree with kak rina, umno under najib dan pas under hadi lebih mementingkan donation dari agama dan bangsa la, even a blind one can see. perpaduan pencuri kot.

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        • 42. RINA  |  March 26, 2016 at 2:16 pm

          Hmmm..HY.

          Talking to the mirror ke?…lebih mementingkan donation dari agama dan bangsa la…

          Baru2 ni my Apek2 jiran shops, almost 3hrs lions came dancing punya jenuh nari dan palu gendang.. golek2 naik tangga2 kutip derma. Kasi lions main soccer dgn mandarin oranges pulak tu?

          My whole office penuh asap mercun!

          Yearly affair.

          You apa cerita ni?

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          • 43. HY  |  March 27, 2016 at 11:12 am

            no cerita, i never deny or to retort when the comment n opinion is to me, objective n correct, unless the intention is to insult.

            i know no one is perfect, i think i know the chinese well, n i oso know dap well, from a chinese educated chinese perspective. i dun defend chinese n dap without any reservation. i disagree with helen almost 95%, n the rest 5% is perhaps on dap. i despise dap fanboy the way i despise umno n pas under hadi admirers. look at the 2.8m n the 2.6b case, whats the diff with their reaction, but dap fanboy is worst, bec they often talk as if they can do no wrong.

            i dun need a mirror, i believe u n yr projib fren here need one badly. dap fanboy no need mirror, let them rot.

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            • 44. Helen Ang  |  March 27, 2016 at 11:31 am

              re: “i disagree with helen almost 95%”

              Well, if you disagree with me almost 95% and still remain a semi-regular commenter, then it shows that my blog is open to differing or contrary viewpoints.

              Annie Anakin made a false accusation when he claimed that I took issue with him because I disagreed with his Protun slant.

              After all, I don’t feud with the other staunch Protun bloggers such as JMD, Din Turtle, SAA or Kadir Jasin.

              Annie is objectionable to me because he has been lying like the RBAs on top of permitting the RBAs to push lies in his blog.

              And both the Protun (singular & referring specifically to Annie) and the Dapsters/Cina ultra (plural) don’t bat an eyelid to fitnah orang kerana bagi mereka, matlamat menghalalkan cara.

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  • 45. MeorUSA  |  March 25, 2016 at 11:16 pm

    “On the other hand, the tangible benefit of aligning with Umno is that combined, PAS and Umno between them have enough clout to impose a Malay-Muslim hegemony on the country. Retaining Putrajaya on a Malay tsunami will allow the Umno-PAS combo to do whatever they like in the interests of Agama dan Bangsa.”

    Wow Helen I hope you are not wishing for that.!!!

    The good thing (maybe that came out of stupid ” resident advisor ” -Najib of not the omputih kind this time) is there are other resident advisors that can take his place.This time we are madder because Najib is of our own kind.Get the rope.!!!

    Today realignments is for the betterment of all race not for Malays,not for Chinese not for else.Same realignments in religious matters.Go ahead some will gravitate to the old PAS-UMNO axis some to the new multicultural axis.

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    • 46. Helen Ang  |  March 25, 2016 at 11:21 pm

      re: “some will gravitate to the old PAS-UMNO axis some to the new multicultural axis”

      You’re correct. There are some parallels to Republicans vs Democrats.

      So which side will have the numbers to win in the Mother of All Elections (GE14)?

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      • 47. MeorUSA  |  March 25, 2016 at 11:43 pm

        side track.
        Sometime-i am sorry all the time, -its is good to listen to others grievances.Today on NPR(national public radio) i listened to a Trump supporter comments that resonates with my experience here.
        What is left for my four teenage children here are work at the likes of MacDonalds.The manufacturing jobs had disappeared from the face of USA-exaggerating but true.!!!
        They are day to day moms and dads concerned.
        Trump is a fascist regardless.
        Thank Helen for your insights.

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  • 48. HY  |  March 26, 2016 at 10:39 am

    pas under hadi is just a bunch of hypocrite. wanna share donation tapi guise macam pious believer. umno suit tis hypo 100%.

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    • 49. biaDAP  |  March 26, 2016 at 1:57 pm

      Malaysian Chinese under Christianity is even more than just hypocrites, everything they do is below market price 100%

      Reply
  • 50. truth  |  March 26, 2016 at 7:18 pm

    you think you are not rude by using those words on people. then you brought all kind of terminologies you find online to justify it.

    in the name of Allah the most high, the most powerful, the most just…if you insist to do what you had intended to do may Allah inflicts your own evils on yourself, humiliates you while you are in this world and hereafter…ameen ya Rabb al-‘alameen.

    semoga Rabb sekalian alam maqbulkan doa i, because it is very difficult for me to utter this kind of doa.

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    • 51. Mad Hatter  |  March 26, 2016 at 10:52 pm

      Not very wise to curse someone in God’s name

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    • 52. truth  |  March 26, 2016 at 11:40 pm

      helen,

      sorry, this one dbl posted.

      Reply
      • 53. Helen Ang  |  March 27, 2016 at 12:02 am

        No worries. It happens to me too.

        Reply

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