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Ali Tinju and Jamal Sekinchan feuding

So now the Red Shirts gonna split into Baju Merah Delima and Baju Merah Saga, is it?

shades of red

Both Ali Tinju and Jamal Sekinchan are badass names closely associated with the Red Shirt movement. The two men now fighting is like the left foot and the right foot shooting each other.

Already the Malays are berpecah belah. This is a further subdivision.

The Red Shirts need “perpaduan(haha). Seorang tokoh yang berwibawa perlu tampil untuk ‘satukan’ kedua-dua pihak yang sedang berperang saudara ni.

Who, ah?

Ali Rustam? Tajuddin Pasir Salak? Ismail Sabri? Someone from Perkasa?

Doesn’t anyone more credible wanna step up and take ownership of the nascent movement? He will surely be the power broker of the future.

The world is shifting to the right. After all, Donald Trump is on his way to becoming the next Potus.

Himpunan Merah has strong potential as a force to be reckoned with. A smart and ambitious fella would do well to seize the moment.


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18 thoughts on “Ali Tinju and Jamal Sekinchan feuding

    1. Where ‘Cash is King’ and when religion is used to conceal misdeeds, the Malay are even more susceptible to split. PAN is the obvious best example.

      1. The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said: “When two parties revile each other, [the sin of] what they say is borne by the one who started it, as long as the one who is wronged does not transgress [the bounds of defending himself, by scolding back with worse]” (Sahih Muslim).
        And when a group of Jews covertly cursed the Prophet (pbuh) by playing on the words “as-Salamu ‘alaykum,” ‘A’isha noticed it and gave them a scolding, but theProphet said, “Enough, ‘A’isha; for Allah does not like vulgarity or making a display of it” (Sahih Muslim, 1707: 2165(4). S). And in another version of this hadith, he said, “O ‘A’isha, you must have gentleness, and always shun harsh words and vulgarity” (Sahih Bukhari, 8.15: 6030. S).

        This is the adab of Islam with hardened enemies, so how should it not apply to our fellow Muslims, let alone family and loved ones? But the Wahhabi Islamists have made “takfir” of other muslims and judgementalism their trademarks in the course of their politicized religion. Wahhabism is broken up all over the world, and its perverse sectarianism has been bloody and vile in many places.

      2. Even among the Chinese there are those who worship the money god. I suppose Mr. Jholow and his persecuted cohorts in Singapore serve as examples. Here is a famous zen story to remind us of our human values. It is called “the moon cannot be stolen”

        Ryokan, a buddhist master, lived the simplest kind of life in a little hut at the foot of a mountain. One evening a thief ransacked the hut only to discover there was nothing in it to steal.

        Ryokan returned and caught him. “You may have come a long way to visit me,” he told the robber, “so you should not return empty-handed. Here, take my clothes as a gift.”

        The thief was bewildered as he took the clothes and slunk away into the darkness.

        Ryokan sat naked, watching the moon. “Poor fellow,” he mused, “I wish I could give him this beautiful moon.”

        1. When the money god makes the worshipper a king there is no end to his innovation. This is how Mulla Nasrudin teaches men about ego. It is called “the guarantee” :

          One day in his court, the King turned to Nasrudin and said, “Mulla. Since you are constantly reminding us of how clever and wise you are, tell me this: can you teach your donkey to read?”

          “Absolutely,” replied Nasrudin. “A task like that presents me no problems whatsoever.”

          “Do not be two-faced with me,” said the King. “Seriously, can you do it?”

          “Yes, I mean it,” Nasrudin replied, “Your majesty, just give me fifty thousand dollars right now, and I’ll guarantee this donkey will read within 8 years.”

          “OK,” said the King. “But if that donkey isn’t reading by then, I’ll put you in prison and have you tortured daily.” So it was agreed, and Nasrudin left the court.

          The next day, Nasrudin’s friend asked about what had happened.
          “Are you out of your mind?” he said. “You can barely teach your donkey to stand still, and you’ve guaranteed that it’ll be reading within 8 years? Nasrudin, I don’t see how you will escape a long prison sentence for this.”

          “Listen,” the Mulla replied with composure, “several years from now, our King will probably be dead or ousted from power. Even if he manages to last as King for that long, odds are my donkey will have died by then. And in the unlikely event that neither my king nor my donkey is finished by 7 years time, I’ll still have an entire year to plan my way out of getting punished.”

          1. We call this kind of mind the “monkey-mind” which is obsessed with anything of the world – money, fame, or women and intoxicant. The human intelligence wasted on useless preoccupations of fancy and whims. Such behaviour leads inevitably to mental depression and personal anguish. It is self-inflicted suffering which kings and common people are similarly affected.

          2. “Do not overrate what you have received, nor envy others. He who envies others does not obtain peace of mind.”
            – Gautama Buddha

  1. wayang je lah semua nie Helen…. mark my words :)

    kalau tak wayang pun…bagus lah…let the stupid the shrewd destroy each other, if you are an UMNO supporter you know UMNO dont need all this goons lah :D

  2. Ali tinju is jealous, cos jamal is making all the money using “Baju Merah”…..jamal has become rich in just a few years, but Ali is still the same guy from KG Baru…..and moreover, Noh Omar has made Jamal in charge of all umno aligned NGO’s, which includes ali’s team…..there are even video clips on ali explaining how jamal capitalized on HImpunan Merah, made a lot of money while exploiting the dumb ones…..this is what umno is all about in a nutshell…’s all about money, not the people….you want to nurture perpaduan in umno, throw them some dedak…that should keep them quiet

    1. re: “there are even video clips on ali explaining how jamal capitalized on HImpunan Merah”

      Really? Give a url pls.

        1. Orang Perlis commented on this page, “wayang je lah semua nie Helen…. mark my words”.

          It’s not too difficult to guess at the subtle sandiwara. Think about it.

          1. helen, u being a pendatang, would not understand a malay who’s high on a dengki issue…..this is one of it….but, it’s not wrong to have a wishful thinking like OP…….and what do i care if these two goons kill each other except there’s 2 less problems in Malaysia

            1. re: “helen, u being a pendatang”

              My Malay readers don’t call me ‘pendatang’. I’m keturunan Baba Nyonya.

              re: “a malay who’s high on a dengki issue…..this is one of it”

              Aiyah, sharpen your political acumen sikit lah. ‘Think’ again as to why Ali Tinju is shooting Jamal Sekinchan. Orang Perlis has a theory on the reason for the Umno “sandiwara”.

              1. I thought you call yourself a chinese in the Field Jamal Sekinchan write up.
                You are not sure of your identity, pendatang?

                1. (1) I have no problem with my identity. Being of Baba-Nyonya descent does not make me unChinese just like being Cantonese/Teochew or whatever does not mean you’re denying that you’re a Chinese. It’s just a sub-group.

                  (2) You’ve got an attitude problem insisting to call me “pendatang”. Other people rarely call me “pendatang” and neither do I call other people “pendatang” as a slur.

                  (3) The people whose self-identity are screwed up are those who live in your imagined neighbourhood Jerusubang. They think there are “zero Chinese” in Malaysia and believe their own race to be “Anak Malaysia”.

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