Pahang mufti Abdul Rahman Osman yesterday invited Grandpa and his son Papa Lim to convert to Islam for national unity. (See story in the J-Star.),
Needless to say, it is Mama Dapster who should set the ball rolling on this matter. Why does she keep her Malay fan base waiting forever?
Helen Ang 
Ha ha ha , taken the bulls by the horns. Well done Mufti of Pahang.
All those who profess their love and willingly attire themselves in what is common wear among Muslims please do take up the challenge….
These entering and “occupying” mosques and Suraus mainly happen in Selangor but, surprisingly, the challenge came from Pahang…. Just think about it…..
Anyone from the occupier’s camp sahur this morning? Its your last chance. You may not get this opportunity next Ramadhan, if by the grace of Allah you are still around….
After U insulted them and wanted them to be KILLED,
now u invite them to convert. KIHKIHKIH.
Low mentality punya Mufti.
TAK HERAN PUN…………HEHEHE
Come on lah, RBA.
This mention of “killing” is an unfair and misleading extrapolation.
Suruh org lain letak jawatan tapi sendiri.kene tatak mao letak jawatan itu high mentality ma?
Another fanatic from Islam going over the top. When will these people stop being brainwashed and come up with their own ideas on how to live a decent life. No compulsion in religion my arse.
There is no such word as compulsion mentioned by the mufti. Only ‘invitation’. Get yr facts right, do not jump up and down at the mere mention of a fact not in yr favour.
The mufti is basing hs invitation on the eagerness of the munafiqs or harbi to portray their islamic inclination and interest. That is what you get when you conduct yrself such. It may not reveal the true intention but that is one of the assumptions people esp. Muslims could interpret their conduct.
Otherwise the conduct of continously intruding others place of worship wld arise suspicion as to the intention of the perpetrator.
You cannot blame the mufti, it is only natural fr a muslim to extend such an invitation based on the person’s conduct. It is a form of daawa greatly encouraged by the religion. It is only to be expected. He did not invade anybody’s privacy or any physical entity.
Luckily this happens in Malaysia. The situation might nt be that conducive or welcoming in other countries. Imagine, you going to peopke’s hs, first few days we welcome you warmly as guests. After 3 days, at least, yr overstay is not welcomed anymore and would be subjected to suspicipn by the host. You do not hv to dosplay yr twisted version of an interpretation of the situation.. You invade people’s place, it is only natural that yr conduct become the subject of suspicio.
Jangan lupa they began frequenting the masjids during the glory days of tahaluf siyasi with the Islamists led by al-Juburi. What Islam were the dapsters taught over kueh-mueh and teh tarik huh?
Formerly known as FHAAHD
Invites melayu kata jemput.. Lai lai ci peng.. No paksaan! Hai masakan jemput MAKAN saja pi melulu?
DAP tak henti2 seru ajak rakyat Bersih dan UBAH – FLEEDOM. Yang ketara kami nampak hasil seruan DAP yang berjaya adalah melahirkan generasi baru, tokoh2 hebat seperti Hannah, Teresa Kok, Monsterball, Namewee dan pasangan Alvivi ??? Haiyaaa yang elok2 tarak ke?
Ni kes bangarow tanpa seweming pull pulak.. nak brainwash, bersih dan UBAH otak2 pejawat awam juga ke? Bayangkan apa akan terjadi kalau mereka teladani cara LGE beli bangarow mulah2 tanpa seweming pull?
Payah nak ajak masyarakat Melayu dan kaum lain UBAH macam Hannah (preacher Agama yang gemar menghina olang), Teresa Kok (kaki saman) Monsterball (kaki mencarut), Namewee (anti establishment) pasangan Alvivi (kaki sex bebas) dan LGE (beli bangarow mulah) tau…
Elok juga Mufti buat jemputan..
U should convert, Helen.
Boleh jadi his 3rd wife…………….HEHEHEHE.
Sure hebok.
The open invitation by mufti is timely and historic. Islamic scholars and muslim in general will find great interest to know how the family will respond. They can choose to ignore it, or respond in kind and decline the invitation, or respond in kind and accept it, or respond aggressively and threaten to sue, or rally people for support, or intensify unauthorized fund raising activities.
Whichever response they take, there is a significant bearing on the characters, moral values and principles. It is wise that the invitees seek advice from religious scholars and think deeply of their decision.
Afterall, he is a human being. With all the issues surrounding him, there must be tremendous pressure that can impair decision making. If the party truly love, emphatize and understand the gravity of the problems, they should follow the advice of professionals.
The open invitation should also be extended to her. If she accepted in sincerity, all masjids are open for to be frequented.
“Another fanatic from Islam going over the top”
Only Islam???? You must be from Pluto or maybe “my arse” Uranus.
Please keep your stupidity to yourself and keep our society sane
Yeah, the other loons are at least somewhat tolerable, and generally don’t shove their archaic beliefs on the rest of us. Islam on the other hand has gone out of control, and Muslims are not capable of being critical of the damage their religion has caused society, especially right now.
I keep on harping on about the hypocrisy of your faith as it claims to have no compulsion, but we all know what the penalty for apostasy is in many middle eastern countries, and we certainly know that conversion is prohibited to other religions over here. How you guys can accept living under these terms is beyond logic.
My stupidity? I am not the brainwashed one who is so incredibly stupid to belief that unless you were be born into this faith, you are not going to be save. So the other 5.5 billion are all doomed to hell as the mufti is alluding to in the star article? Allah is really warped if this is what you guys actually believe about him.
re: “the brainwashed one who is so incredibly stupid to belief that unless you were be born into this faith, you are not going to be save”
It sounds to me like you’re talking about the doctrine of Original Sin. That’s within the rubric of Christianity.
“It sounds to me like you’re talking about the doctrine of Original Sin. That’s within the rubric of Christianity.”
And now you have become an authority on Christianity as well, have you? No, I am referring to the ridiculous teachings of Islam that states that unless, by some accident of birth you are born as a Muslim, you are destined for the fires of hell. You have to be seriously delusional to believe such drivel.
While I think Christianity is also not the way forward for the human race (how psychologically damaging and cruel is it to tell your children that they are going to go to hell unless they do X,Y and Z), I at least know that traditional Christians, namely the Catholics, Orthodox and Anglicans don’t hold on to this warped view that all non Christians are doomed for eternity.
re: “And now you have become an authority on Christianity as well, have you?”
As much as you’re an ‘authority’ on Islam.
re: “No, I am referring to the ridiculous teachings of Islam …’
Are you speaking as an ‘expert’?
re: “…that states that unless, by some accident of birth you are born as a Muslim, you are destined for the fires of hell.”
You’re definitely talking about Christianity.
re: “You have to be seriously delusional to believe such drivel.”
Why don’t you go say this to your Christian friends?
re: “While I think Christianity is also not the way forward for the human race (how psychologically damaging and cruel is it to tell your children that they are going to go to hell unless they do X,Y and Z), I at least know that traditional Christians, namely the Catholics, Orthodox and Anglicans don’t hold on to this warped view that all non Christians are doomed for eternity.”
Er, they don’t? When was the last time you dropped in on a church service?
You really are clueless. Read the Catechism of the Catholic Church, it’s free to view online. They talk about baptism of fire, water and desire and clearly state that all who seek to do good, regardless of religious affiliation, will be spared. While I am not supporting Christianity, I think the fact that you blatantly misrepresent what that religion teaches, and conveniently ignore the near barbaric teachings of Islam reflects more on you and the fact that you clearly are on UMNO’s payroll. Yes, you are not fooling anyone.
re: “You really are clueless.”
You really are Islamophobic.
re: “Read the Catechism of the Catholic Church, it’s free to view online.”
Wow. Instant noodles preacher?
re: “They talk about baptism of fire, water and desire and clearly state that all who seek to do good, regardless of religious affiliation, will be spared.”
Christianity 101
http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/billy-graham-when-unsaved-sinner-dies-they-go-hell
re: “While I am not supporting Christianity, I think the fact that you blatantly misrepresent what that religion teaches”
YOU are the one blatantly misrepresenting what that religion teaches.
re: “and conveniently ignore the near barbaric teachings of Islam”
Your Islamophobia is showing again.
re: “reflects more on you”
It reflects on you that you can’t stop picking on Islam, even on the eve of Hari Raya.
re: “and the fact that you clearly are on UMNO’s payroll”
When one can’t argue, one plucks accusation from Annie’s blog.
re: “Yes, you are not fooling anyone.”
I have a publicly known identity, track record and employment history. You’re the Anon.
“Christianity 101”
http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/billy-graham-when-unsaved-sinner-dies-they-go-hell
Nice, posting a link of Billy Graham, who is an Evangelical to represent what the Catholic Church teaches. Stop being so deceitful, you clearly have no idea about what the Catholic Church teaches. FYI, mainstream Protestantism and Catholicism are miles apart in their core beliefs. I on the other hand, have not misrepresented Islam, and the best you can do is to issue out the cop out label of “Islamophobia”. Why is it ok to be homophobic the way most Muslims tend to be but being Islamophobic gets your knickers in a twist?
re: “Nice, posting a link of Billy Graham, who is an Evangelical to represent what the Catholic Church teaches.”
The link is posted to reflect how the Born Agains (who are the majority/most aggressive, i.e. Jerusubang preachers) conduct their Christianity 101 faith in Malaysia.
re: “you clearly have no idea about what the Catholic Church teaches.”
I blog about evangelistas. They are not Catholics.
In fact, some of the evangelistas don’t even consider Catholics to be ‘proper’ Christians — something you should know but are not telling this blog’s Malay readers.
And neither are Catholic churches proliferating in Jerusubang (a location I blog about) which is the hub for evangelical churches.
re: “FYI, mainstream Protestantism and Catholicism are miles apart in their core beliefs.”
In Malaysia, evangelism or pentecostal churches are the today most dominant denomination.
Go read the Catholic Herald. I’m sure the publication has talked before about how the youngsters are being lured to the evangelical churches and how the Catholics are losing their Gen Y flock.
re: “Why is it ok to be homophobic the way most Muslims tend to be but being Islamophobic gets your knickers in a twist?”
Why is it ok for the evangelistas to diss the Catholics but when it comes to exposing the evangelistas, you Christians of different feathers still flock together and get your collective persecution complex twitching?
POSTSCRIPT:
In fact, some of the evangelistas don’t even consider Catholics to be ‘proper’ Christians.
Explanation: Because Catholics pray to statue of the Virgin Mary. Some also pray to icons of the saints as well venerate relics.
Thus Protestants consider Catholics to be guilty of idolatry.
Since you are obviously trying to be difficult, here the paragraph from the Catechism that proves you are talking out of your arse as usual.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_P29.HTM
“847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:
Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience – those too may achieve eternal salvation”
Pardon me brother, but which teachings of Islam do you find to be “barbaric”? And what “barbaric” practices of UMNO are you associating with the religion of Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him?
Ustaz, this FHAAHD fellow is probably so pissed off with the gargantuan misdemeanors of Mr. Najib and the hollow holier-than-thou exegetics of Mr. Hadi that he lumps one and all Muslims into one unflattering stereotype in his “barbaric” brain.
Helen,
I have encountered Islam practised in many ways.
I am sorry to have to say this but this Mufti of Pahang is an absolute moron.
I would never want to convert to his version of Islam.
His version of Islam encourages hate towards anybody who is not a Muslim.
His version of Islam demands respect without giving any to others.
His version of Islam is so sensitive to criticism that he will want to kill his critics if they do not stop criticising him after he tells them to stop.
I piss on the Mufti of Pahang and his version of Islam.
An Ordinary Malaysian
……I piss on the Mufti of Pahang and his version of Islam….
Ada video viral aritu, a woman pissing inside the elevator in Penang and recently a male doing same in a basket next to
a ticket vending machine. Ni pasti kamu gemar kencing meghata tempat macam anjing! Woof woof..
RINA,
Kalau I ada anjing, I’ll get the anjing to piss on the Mufti of Pahang and his version of Islam as well.
An Ordinary Malaysian
I pun nak jemput you pi kelas2 Agama belajaq2 sikit pasai Agama Islam, lebih elok lagi kalau you convert. Then you dapat mendalami apa yang tuan Mufti huraikan.
SPM dulu BM and BI fail ke? You tak faham ke? Takut satni Betis you terjemah as Peha, Rice pula silap ingat oghang hari2 makan Lice?
RINA,
re : “I pun nak jemput you pi kelas2 Agama”
No thanks, I prefer not to rot my brain.
Convert to Islam? Nope, not interested. I’m fine thank you
……and have a nice day
“I would never want to convert to his version of Islam.”
Kit Siang, Joseph, Hannah and OKM (periuk kosong fame) should convert and show us their version of Islam. We can judge for ourselves whether their new version is a true version or not. Apa tunggu lagi?
Well. To the Mufti… I will press the LIKE icon!
why not you ask fat soh Helen Ang to show them the way?
tiap tiap hari cakap pasal perpaduan ummah. tapi belum convert.
siapa yang munafik actually?
Di atas adalah contoh sekor pembangkang biaDAP pentaksub blog Annie.
Mulan,
re : “Kit Siang, Joseph, Hannah and OKM (periuk kosong fame) should convert and show us their version of Islam.?”
You need someone to convert to Islam to show you what Islam is?
You don’t already have a one-to-one relationship with your Allah?
You need somebody else to tell you what your Allah should be like?
Aiyoh!
Maybe that is why you think your Allah wants you to go around killing kafir harbi.
So, what is next?
Will you go around with a big bucket of shit on your head if someone told you that your Allah wants you to do that?
Come to think of it, maybe you might.
Religion makes people stupid.
re: “Maybe that is why you think your Allah wants you to go around killing kafir harbi”
Come on lah, going on this track is unnecessary DAP-type provocation.
Just to gain political capital, DAP has been very irresponsible to divert its incendiary rhetoric in the direction that the mufti never intended.
Neither the mufti nor Rina advocated any killing. You bait Muslims with this line of challenge and misrepresentation, then you will turn around and play victim.
Helen,
re : “going on this track is unnecessary DAP-type provocation.”
My apologies.
I am just not very good at getting that point across that religion has not served Malaysia well.
The kafir harbi comments by the Mufti of Pahang have not been very helpful.
An Ordinary Malaysian
Ajak pi kelas sekadar untuk mendalami Agama Islam pun you tak mau, habistu macam mana dah rasa cerdik pandai sangat pasai Agama Islam, tuan Mufti pun kami boleh nak hina? Haiyaaa..malu la sikit!
Pasai tak faham Agama oghang lain tapi busybody, tambah2 pula “tak faham bahasa” bukan saja you look stupid tapi TOO DESPERATE nak buat modal cali galuh2! Is that all what you people are worth of as Malaysians?
Religion makes you into a zombie, where you are trained not to have a mind of your own and just follow the words of morons!
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So far the best statement from a religious leader, that’s the Pahang mufti. He cooly invited those DAP leaders to convert to Islam for national unity and that’s when the DAP ” cacing” got so entangled and heated up, they started to cursed and accused in your blog Helen.
Imagine, just “an invitation to convert “, and those DAP dogs jumped up and down as if they have been taken for slaughter like in Longkang Lim’s culling of dogs. It shows how sensitive they are against Islam, and that indicates how they are being brainwashed in their churches. Hate, hate, hate…
Equalizer,
The only reason why Mufti can whack DAP is what he (Mufti) said is in line with what malays feel about DAP.
Let us get real. Many muslims (meaning malays)agree with what the Mufti said.
Masih ingat satu ketika dulu, ada pemakan dedak DAP pernah berkata masa berkempen lebih kurang bunyinya “boboi tak mau declare masuk Islam dulu sebab papa masih hidup. Bila papa dah “jalan” baru dia nak declare.”
Papa pun tak jalan-jalan lagi, kalau boleh nak kekal jadi supremo sampai kiamat. Berlakon aje la macam orang Islam.