MCA are in yellow ,UMNO are in read ,people say minyak dengan air memang tidak bolih bercampur .
Ther term referring to the Chinese in the West, yellow. Living up to expectation.The world is heading towards what it should have been.albeit slowly but surely. Could be they yearn for their own emperor who might have also considered yellow as their royal colour.
so, the lesson to me malay is that, mca also tak boleh percaya la? lol
and the lesson to chinese is, umno is bullying mca la.. kkk
What’s wrong with yellow?
Eugene
Donald Trump’s 5 year old grand-daughter can recite Chinese poems.
A Mat Salleh kid can learn to speak Mandarin (correction classical Mandarin)
However with 13 years of education, a Bangsa Malaysia can’t speak Malay, speaks poor English Speaks Mando-kian (Mandarin with lots of Hockien words and pronounced with a thick Hockien accent) or absolutely no Tamil.
1) This is old news ( posted on Ivanka Trump’s Insta months ago ) that The Star picked up ( obviously to ride on the election wave, which i find distasteful. I mean whats the point really to involve kids??)
2) “A Mat Salleh kid can learn to speak Mandarin (correction classical Mandarin)” Anyone can speak any non native language in the correct pronunciation with a good tutor/teacher. But so what?Many of my Chinese friends are bananas too :D. Are they lesser Malaysians ? Many of Malay kids cant even speak proper ( classical ) BM too. Bahasa rempit /street slang does not count :P. Are they lesser Malaysians because of that?
So Malaysian who can’t speak the national language are full Malaysians? In this case why countries require applicants for citizenship sit for national language exams.
I wonder would Clinton (if she won) accept new Americans who cannot speak English (and will never ever learn the language). Can one become a French national without learning French? Can China accept Cantonese as an alternative national language?
What is the point of spending money on schools when the result is poor language skills? What is the point of going to Chinese schools when one only uses Mando-kian? You can stay at home and learn Mando-kian from TV. It is also agony for the child to stay in school for language lessons, if all they get is no result. It is better for them to lepak at a mall or play video games because going to school is a waste of time.
Yes. Not making an effort to master the national language makes a person a lesser citizen.
If you bring a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.
re: “going to school is a waste of time”
Yes. More and more parents are looking at the home-schooling option.
dun show yr ignorance like the commentator call blue. i dun wan to waste my time on him bec his comment show he know very little of china. there r schools in china that cater for minority, they study many subjects in their own mother tongue. there r more than 30% chinese that cant speak putonghua, only 10% can speak std mandarin. ccp use the term putonghua instead of guoyu ie national language to show all languages r equal, however putonghua is used for the sake of communication among all. n of course there r some hanyu chauvinist who want to make mandarin the official language, this chauvinist is no diff with the american n french u mentioned. i hope u r not 1.
One country one language. If everyone can speak or not speak as they like it, the whole country will be in chaos. It is imperative that a citizen of a country learn and use the official language of the country. What is frustrating is that public funds is pumped into schools and the result is lousy outcome of learning. Bad command of BM and English and now in the Chinese schools, bad Mandarin.
I am for the importation of native speakers from the PRC to teach Mandarin in Chinese schools (like practiced at Mara) if Mando-kian continues to be spoken in school. Poor quality teaching must make way for good quality teaching.
I have a Malay colleague whose son doesn’t speak bahasa at all (he speaks English at home) and unable to communicate in bahasa with his little friends at the kindy. You may not realize that some middle class Malays actually speak English at home and has poor bahasa skill.
I think most Chinese can speak bahasa reasonably well *if* they take the initiative to speak more often and care to watch bahasa news or programs on tv. Language is just another form of skillset, if you don’t practice or use it, it will get rusty.
Well id like to hear your Malay Mulan ;)
Mulan,
re: So Malaysian who can’t speak the national language are full Malaysians? In this case why countries require applicants for citizenship sit for national language exams.
I am not sure what is the level of proficiency in Bahasa as a prerequisite to citizenship (whether by registration, naturalisation etc). But I am sure once citizenship is obtained, there is no legal requirement to maintain or improve such proficiency. Similarly, one need not use Bahasa in his daily lives (school, work etc) to retain his citizenship. Legally speaking, citizenship cannot be revoked on the basis of lack of mastery in Bahasa.
re: Yes. Not making an effort to master the national language makes a person a lesser citizen.
In what sense? Legal? Your personal opinion? Morality? Religion?
As stated above, a citizen with perfect mastery of Bahasa compare with another citizen with zero knowledge of Bahasa both will enjoy the same rights as Malaysian citizen. Right to vote, equal protection before the law, public healthcare, freedom of movement etc. If he is a Bumi, he will enjoy Bumi rights (discount in buying house) even if he has does not master the national language.
cepatla MUlan
takpa…kita nak sembang Utara pun boleh….East coast oun i boleh…
perak punya slang pun i boleh…
bahasa melayu sastera pun i boleh…pantun pun ok jugak
takyah pakai google pun…
:D
since we want to measure our “citizen”ness by language kan? ;)
Haiya, lu tak payah buli olang la kawan!
buli the buli is perfectly fine. btw lu bila balik kerala?
Helen Ang 
MCA are in yellow ,UMNO are in read ,people say minyak dengan air memang tidak bolih bercampur .
Ther term referring to the Chinese in the West, yellow. Living up to expectation.The world is heading towards what it should have been.albeit slowly but surely. Could be they yearn for their own emperor who might have also considered yellow as their royal colour.
so, the lesson to me malay is that, mca also tak boleh percaya la? lol
and the lesson to chinese is, umno is bullying mca la.. kkk
What’s wrong with yellow?
Eugene
Donald Trump’s 5 year old grand-daughter can recite Chinese poems.
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/world/2016/11/14/video-of-donald-trumps-5-year-old-granddaughter-reciting-chinese-poetry-wins-hearts-of-chinese/
A Mat Salleh kid can learn to speak Mandarin (correction classical Mandarin)
However with 13 years of education, a Bangsa Malaysia can’t speak Malay, speaks poor English Speaks Mando-kian (Mandarin with lots of Hockien words and pronounced with a thick Hockien accent) or absolutely no Tamil.
1) This is old news ( posted on Ivanka Trump’s Insta months ago ) that The Star picked up ( obviously to ride on the election wave, which i find distasteful. I mean whats the point really to involve kids??)
2) “A Mat Salleh kid can learn to speak Mandarin (correction classical Mandarin)” Anyone can speak any non native language in the correct pronunciation with a good tutor/teacher. But so what?Many of my Chinese friends are bananas too :D. Are they lesser Malaysians ? Many of Malay kids cant even speak proper ( classical ) BM too. Bahasa rempit /street slang does not count :P. Are they lesser Malaysians because of that?
So Malaysian who can’t speak the national language are full Malaysians? In this case why countries require applicants for citizenship sit for national language exams.
I wonder would Clinton (if she won) accept new Americans who cannot speak English (and will never ever learn the language). Can one become a French national without learning French? Can China accept Cantonese as an alternative national language?
What is the point of spending money on schools when the result is poor language skills? What is the point of going to Chinese schools when one only uses Mando-kian? You can stay at home and learn Mando-kian from TV. It is also agony for the child to stay in school for language lessons, if all they get is no result. It is better for them to lepak at a mall or play video games because going to school is a waste of time.
Yes. Not making an effort to master the national language makes a person a lesser citizen.
If you bring a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.
re: “going to school is a waste of time”
Yes. More and more parents are looking at the home-schooling option.
dun show yr ignorance like the commentator call blue. i dun wan to waste my time on him bec his comment show he know very little of china. there r schools in china that cater for minority, they study many subjects in their own mother tongue. there r more than 30% chinese that cant speak putonghua, only 10% can speak std mandarin. ccp use the term putonghua instead of guoyu ie national language to show all languages r equal, however putonghua is used for the sake of communication among all. n of course there r some hanyu chauvinist who want to make mandarin the official language, this chauvinist is no diff with the american n french u mentioned. i hope u r not 1.
One country one language. If everyone can speak or not speak as they like it, the whole country will be in chaos. It is imperative that a citizen of a country learn and use the official language of the country. What is frustrating is that public funds is pumped into schools and the result is lousy outcome of learning. Bad command of BM and English and now in the Chinese schools, bad Mandarin.
I am for the importation of native speakers from the PRC to teach Mandarin in Chinese schools (like practiced at Mara) if Mando-kian continues to be spoken in school. Poor quality teaching must make way for good quality teaching.
I have a Malay colleague whose son doesn’t speak bahasa at all (he speaks English at home) and unable to communicate in bahasa with his little friends at the kindy. You may not realize that some middle class Malays actually speak English at home and has poor bahasa skill.
I think most Chinese can speak bahasa reasonably well *if* they take the initiative to speak more often and care to watch bahasa news or programs on tv. Language is just another form of skillset, if you don’t practice or use it, it will get rusty.
Well id like to hear your Malay Mulan ;)
Mulan,
re: So Malaysian who can’t speak the national language are full Malaysians? In this case why countries require applicants for citizenship sit for national language exams.
I am not sure what is the level of proficiency in Bahasa as a prerequisite to citizenship (whether by registration, naturalisation etc). But I am sure once citizenship is obtained, there is no legal requirement to maintain or improve such proficiency. Similarly, one need not use Bahasa in his daily lives (school, work etc) to retain his citizenship. Legally speaking, citizenship cannot be revoked on the basis of lack of mastery in Bahasa.
re: Yes. Not making an effort to master the national language makes a person a lesser citizen.
In what sense? Legal? Your personal opinion? Morality? Religion?
As stated above, a citizen with perfect mastery of Bahasa compare with another citizen with zero knowledge of Bahasa both will enjoy the same rights as Malaysian citizen. Right to vote, equal protection before the law, public healthcare, freedom of movement etc. If he is a Bumi, he will enjoy Bumi rights (discount in buying house) even if he has does not master the national language.
cepatla MUlan
takpa…kita nak sembang Utara pun boleh….East coast oun i boleh…
perak punya slang pun i boleh…
bahasa melayu sastera pun i boleh…pantun pun ok jugak
takyah pakai google pun…
:D
since we want to measure our “citizen”ness by language kan? ;)
Haiya, lu tak payah buli olang la kawan!
buli the buli is perfectly fine. btw lu bila balik kerala?