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Adakah Jais, Mais akan menguatkuasa titah larangan sultan?

Sehari sebelum umat Islam berpuasa, perdana menteri Najib Razak meminta supaya masjid tidak digunakan untuk menabur kebencian, lapor Berita Harian dalam rencana bertajuk ‘Usah guna masjid untuk sebar fitnah’.

PM berkata kesucian masjid tidak harus dicemari semata-mata mahu mendapat keuntungan kerana masjid bukan gelanggang mencari pengaruh.

Upacara pengebumian Teoh Beng Hock dihadiri Lim Guan Eng dan  ahli-ahli exco DAP

Sewaktu upacara keagamaan dijalankan untuk arwah Teoh Beng Hock, ramai jurugambar yang mengerumuni tempat letaknya gambar mendiang serta merebut-rebut memanjat kerusi kerana mahu menangkap gambar Lim Guan Eng.

Dalam majlis pengebumian (‘tahlil’) tersebut, ucapan berbaur politik juga disampaikan oleh jawatankuasa kerja pusat DAP .

Komentar oleh Joceline Tan dalam The Star:

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“There was widespread sympathy from all races when Teoh died in such tragic circumstances.

“Everybody wanted justice for him, they felt for his family, especially for his mother whose tears were pure and sincere. But when the DAP leaders continued to reject the findings of the Commission of Inquiry report, there was a turning point in opinion among the Malays.

They were asking: “What more do the Chinese want? Will the Chinese be satisfied only if Teoh Beng Hock comes back to life?”

It was a telling sign that things had gone too far.

At some point, the issue had become less about Teoh than it was about the DAP, less about justice than about scoring political points.

The relentless attacks against the MACC also came across as an attack against the Malays because the MACC, like the civil service, is predominantly Malay.

Yet, few DAP politicians could see the issue had acquired a racial tone and some of them are still going on about it, dragging out Teoh’s sister every now and then to make demands, to sob and to accuse.

The furore the DAP whipped up over the police shooting of Shah Alam teenager Aminulrasyid Amzah was another instance of how a fine line was crossed in the quest for justice for the boy and his family.

The DAP politicians went to town with the issue at their political ceramah and the way they condemned and ridiculed the police must have made Malays in the audience feel stupid and inferior.

Almost every Malay family has a relative or friend who is a civil servant, policeman or in the military. But DAP politicians cannot seem to make that distinction. They know the Chinese like the fighting cock style, so they go for the jugular.

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DAPsters yang asyik hendak menentang dan melawan sahaja adakala tidak tahu tempat.

Christian Fellowship Subang Jaya @ Subang Rally 2009

Blogger-juruvideo Tony Yew – juga setiausaha Blog House Malaysia – mengisahkan pengalamannya berdepan dengan segerombolan DAPster di acara perbahasan 2.0 Chua Soi Lek-Lim Guan Eng.

Coretan Tony Yew:

“I witnessed an account whereby a videographer/blogger was jeered at and called names at the DAP section. He was labelled a ‘Running Dog’ (literal translation from the term ‘Chou kow’ in Chinese which basically means a dog that turns against his own pack) and shoved out of the section where DAP supporters were sitting at.

“I was ushered in to the wrong door and ended up sitting amongst Lim Guan Eng’s office employees (one named Adrian and another lady ‘Wei Yee – I think). Each time Soi Lek made a point, there would be exchanges and sniggers amongst them. I am sure that this happened [too] amongst MCA supporters, but [still] where is the decorum from [Penang] State officials in such an event?

“I eventually left that section as I too was pointed out to be to be a non supporter.

“If anything, I am more driven to stand out against any form of injustice. In fact, some time last week, a Christian blogger pointed out to me a ‘Christian blog’ which fanned religious sentiment and deft against the government.

“There is nothing wrong to be anti establishment, but to do so with such hatred and vile to the effect of using religion as an excuse is downright disgusting.”

Nota: Tony Yew ialah seorang Kristian tetapi beliau orang Kristian ‘lama’.

Gereja City Harvest di Subang Jaya, misalnya, ialah Kristian baru dan ditubuhkan di Malaysia hanya pada 7 Julai 2001.

Acara Christian Fellowship di mana Hannah Yeoh memberi ucapan
prayed for her and her assistants, gambar di http://subangrally.blogspot.com

Di Gereja City Harvest Singapura pula, paderi didakwa menipu para pengikutnya yang memberi sumbangan derma berpuluh juta.

Saya pun hairan bagaimana orangramai boleh begitu taksub kepada paderi evangelis and bagaimana si DAPster-DAPster boleh mahu menyembah politikus evangelis mereka.

Masjid diperkudakan

Pada tahun lepas ada dilaporkan berita ‘Tazkirah’ Teo: Sultan murka, Mais ambil alih surau.

Hannah berucap di Subang Rally, perhimpunan budak-budak Kristian sekolah dan kolej

Pengerusi Majlis Agama Islam Selangor, Mohamad Adzib Mohd Isa berkata:

“Mais memandang serius berhubung isu ini memandangkan ini merupakan kes kedua seumpamanya yang melibatkan ahli politik dan orang bukan Islam memberikan ucapan di dalam masjid/surau di negeri Selangor.”

“Mais juga mengingatkan mana-mana wakil rakyat bukan Islam untuk tidak mengulangi perbuatan yang sama dan tidak menggunakan masjid/surau.”

“Pihak Mais juga menggesa supaya semua pihak termasuk parti-parti politik agar lebih sensitif kepada perasaan umat Islam amnya dan hendaklah menjunjung titah perintah DYMM Sultan Selangor bagi menjaga kesucian institusi masjid dan surau di negeri Selangor.”

Seperti yang diketahui umum, Hannah Yeoh yang terlalu suka panjat naik pentas itu memang mempunyai reputasi selalu berkhutbah di gereja – bukan sekadar di Gereja City Harvest tetapi juga di gereja-gereja lain malah di merata-rata.

Kalau sudah menjadi tabiat seseorang itu berkhutbah …

Adakah jiwa kariah begitu murah dibeli dengan RM1,000 sahaja?

Kumpulan tarian City Harvest Church memberi persembahan di Subang Rally

Peringatan:

Majlis Agama Islam Selangor pernah mengeluarkan Pekeliling (MAIS Bil 4/2009) tentang arahan Sultan Selangor supaya masjid di seluruh negeri tersebut tidak digunakan untuk tujuan politik.

Pekeliling itu menyatakan bahawa tiada sesiapapun boleh memberikan ceramah di mana-mana masjid di negeri itu tanpa mendapat kebenaran atau tauliah daripada Mais yang tidak akan teragak-agak untuk mengambil tindakan terhadap sesiapa sahaja yang mengingkari arahan Sultan Selangor itu.

Kalau seseorang politikus bukan Muslim ghairah masuk masjid, tentunya ia bukan untuk tujuan beribadah kecuali dia berniat berdakwah atau berpolitik memancing undi Melayu.

Kalau untuk politikus evangelis yang begitu agresif, mungkin sebuah restraining order diperlukan.

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28 thoughts on “Adakah Jais, Mais akan menguatkuasa titah larangan sultan?

  1. “Mosques will be given RM2000 each while suraus will get RM1000 each” I wonder how low Hannah Yeoh will stoop to ? Any take on this Helen ? BTW, salam berpuasa to all brothers and sisters.

  2. Let me quote from the Quran, something that reminds me of certain people and also serves as a reminder to myself NOT to be:

    Of the people, there are some who say: “We believe in Allah and the Last day;” but they do not (really) believe.

    Fain would they deceive Allah and those who believe but they only deceive themselves and realise (it) not!

    In their hearts is a disease and Allah has increased their disease and grievous is the penalty they (incur) because they are false (to themselves).

    When it is said to them: “Make no mischief on the earth,” They say: “Why we only want to make peace!”

    Of a surety, they are the ones who make mischief but they realise (it) not.

    Surah Al Baqarah, 2:8 – 2:12

  3. DAPsters memang tak tahu malu dan tak sedar diri…kiasu of the highest order. These **** give Chinese a bad name. Luckily there is someone like you Helen, if not I would tend to think that all Chinese are the same like these DAP***.

  4. Helen,

    If you sincerely wanted to know who is the one who “menabur kebencian” day-in, day-out, just look at the mirror.

    Camelot

    1. Yawn. Wonder if people like you will still have anything to live for after the election.

      1. Hahaha

        I have everything to live for saudari Helen. Unlike you, after the GE, you will still be harboring your jealously over the celebrated Hannah Yeoh and your frustrations over Kim Guan Eng. They are forever ahead of you (alas)

        Just like the hokkien saying “siau kau kak bo lang” – a barking mad dog making noises only.

        Camelot

        1. May I ask if you’re an evangelical Christian too, or does the “dog”-calling penchant merely typify your DAPsterism?

          And don’t be too cocky that the “celebrated” Mama & Papa DAPster “are forever ahead” of me. There is a Malay saying setinggi-tingginya tupai melompat …. Look at ex-MB Khir Toyo, Ling Liong Sik hauled to court and the Rev. Kong Hee with whom Hannah shared centrestage.

          But oh well, even in S’pore there’s that “perpetual hysteria” among the staunch followers.

          Glad to hear about your “everything to live for” tho’ I’m curious how with having so much to live for, you’re not keeping yourself busy playing golf or whatever but still choose to ‘occupy’ my blog.

    2. True. It appears as if Helen is trying to incite a clash between Muslims vs Christians here in Malaysia.

      1. It’s Sat. afternoon. So if you’re not in the office, are you living in the same house as Jonnymalaya? ‘Cos you’re posting from the same IP address wor.

        But to answer your question nicely, since I think you’re generally level-headed and possess a fair and progressive outlook, let me walk you through this.

        ‘Incitement’ to clash is a serious charge. That’s what they put LGE in jail for. Before you make an accusation of such gravity against me, will you take a minute to rationalize rather than blindly following the sentiments of the Pakatan herd?

        As I’ve replied MCMK, I’ve never promoted that readers should vote BN, I’ve never dissuaded anyone from voting DAP, and I hardly ever touch on PKR.

        I treat PAS kindly despite my objection to hudud. You will not find the barely concealed contempt and animosity against Muslims in my blog that you typically find in the DAPster-crowded portals saturated with Malay/Muslim-bashing comments from every other reader — true or not?

        Unlike Haris Ibrahim and his followers running the ABU campaign, I have not initiated any project for any ostensible purpose (theirs is to get rid of BN-Umno, to install a Pakatan govt, etc).

        Then there are those others who want to set up an Islamic state or who want “to take Subang for Jesus!!!” All these are very highly charged objectives which require inciting people to a height of emotions and chanting “ABU, ABU, ABU” everywhere and all the time.

        And they will metaphorically kill anyone who doesn’t agree with their ideology or support their aims. Also check out the ‘Kneeling Uncle’ episode highlighted by I-Hate-in-Sync.

        Whereas in my blog, you see a whole bunch of people trying to have a mature discussion and explore issues engaging in highly civil dialogue (barring the stray Yeopies like MCMK & Camelot who come charging in).

        Don’t be taken in by rhetoric, i.e. slick salesmen who use snake-oil words like “we’re all brothers and sisters”, “we have no skin colour, we’re one people, one race”, “we’re full of love for one another” …

        Evaluate their actions and the effects of their actions instead. Despite the evangelists like Nga Kor Ming using the brothers&sisters-love vocabulary, he caused a stir with “haram jadah hitam metalik”.

        I have a year’s worth of postings here. Throughout I’ve never been jingoistic about national unity lah, Malaysian first lah or whatever (instead I declare ‘Aku Cina’).

        Yet despite my open support for SRJK(C) and talking about my Chineseness, the reader participation here is more multi-racial than the echo chambers where Firsters are in control.

        Again, don’t be swayed by rhetoric. Talk is cheap. Instead, look at the outcome.

        If you can be honest enough to be willing to admit that my blog is successful in hosting an intra-racial discussion, then why have you let yourself be persuaded by the smear campaign carried out against me?

        Isn’t it obvious that all the content here are personal ideas wholly my own & that this blog is a no-frills (no multimedia functions), one-man show?

        Compare with the known fact that the smearers are aligned to powerful politicians who have dozens of Special Officers, Special Assistants, state media at their disposal like Buletin Mutiara, Selangor Times, Selangorku, Scissors and who are harassing me with slander.

        Can’t you weigh the odds, and figure who has got more to gain in tarnishing the opponent?

        Think the landbank goldmine in Penang hills, the multi-billion ringgit projects, or at the very least the millions in state allocations.

        You’re a blogger yourself, so you should have a realistic assessment of how stupid the slanderous charge is about receiving payment. And how sickening they are the kind of people who happily spread this fitnah.

        Read this challenge by Shen Yee Aun:

        (Quote:)

        “Just because I had been very vocal in the cyber space to expose the truth and speak up for MCA then DAP is now sending their troopers to claim that I was being sacked ?

        I resign all my position in the party at the end of 2008 and how on earth will it be true if DAP sacked me then in 2010 I still go to the press to challenged them to sacked me for speaking against gag order that restrict the freedom and democratic right of the leaders and members in DAP?

        I openly challenge any DAP leader to claim that they sacked me.

        Stop accusing Barisan Nasional or anybody of playing gutter politics if you all are the one keep playing dirty politics to manipulate the truth.

        I now again openly challenged all the DAP and Pakatan Rakyat troopers to do everything it takes to destroy me because at the end of the day I got nothing to lose as I am not the candidate or anybody in MCA. But please remember that if you all fail to destroy me then it will be me that will be destroying all of you.”

        (Unquote) See, http://1sya.com/?p=839

        Do you see the same dastardly methods they’re using? Shen Yee Aun is accused of being sacked by DAP. I’m accused of being sacked from the newspaper.

        Like Shen Yee Aun, I’ve got nothing to lose as I am not in politics (am not even an ordinary member of any political party) and I do not need anybody’s votes or to win popularity contests.

        I do not have the CM position and the perks that come with it to lose. I do not have an MP or Adun’s position and the perks that come with them to lose.

        I do not even care for a public profile as I don’t Facebook or Tweet.

        So, between my blog content – some of the snide cartoons and satirical pieces which gave me personal amusement to draw/write – and between the outright vilification by detractors who call me “prostitute”, “dog” and other names,

        between my non-agenda (I’ve got no campaign and no endgame like placing PR in Putrajaya) compared to the clearly desperate political ambition of those people who want power and run all kind of machinery e.g. filming the Makin Cuci Makin Kotor video message,

        why in the world are you persuaded by those people who are throwing stones at me? THINK!!

      2. I have a tablet, which is what im using right now. The other nickname is on my desktop. To avoid confusion, we’ll stick to jonnymalaya for future posts

        Your last topics have all been about Christians plotting to do this or that, and now suggesting Jais to stop Hannah from visiting mosques and suraus during Ramadan to give state donations.

        I hate to sound mean and burst your bubble, but I don’t really see ‘civil dialogue’ going on here… just a bunch of people spitting out their prejudices and bigotry particularly toward Chinese and Christians.

        1. (1) I accept your explanation about tablet-desktop. See, it’s not that difficult to be open to reason. So why it is that DAPsters prefer the most outrageous conspiracy theories rather than Occam’s Razor?

          Dunno about you, but irrational people don’t sit well with me, particularly if to the bodohness is added sombong. What I see is a rapid escalation in the number of Twits as well as the photos of the Subang Rally as something worrisome. But then again, that’s just me.

          (2) “about Christians plotting to do this or that”. Er, you mean to say they’re not plotting anything?

          The opposition side is making even more vehement claims that the pro-establishment camp is plotting to i.e. flood the country with illegals so that BN can get phantom votes, cheat massively, engineer another May 13, execute a Fiji-style coup should BN lose, etc, etc.

          But look at the Sibu by-election and the S’wak state election for the flurry of Christian activity. The ceramahs are on YouTube.

          (3) As for the ‘civil dialogue’, haven’t I encouraged your participation in this blog from Day 1 despite your opposing stance and now, your pro-Hannah sniping against me? Don’t I give you credit where credit is due for your input despite it being negative about me?

          Are you saying that the pro-opposition platforms – where someone saying something utterly reasonable is voted down -825, and the contrarian opinion is mob-lynched – are conducting themselves with more civility?

          Here everyone has a chance of being heard. It is not so over ‘there’.

          Take TMI where several of our readers have complained that their comments are not allowed to see the light of day. I’ve heard the same from my blogger friends.

          Examine empirical data as to how often Aspan and Sakmongkol’s articles appear in TMI. Does even Utusan practise bias to this extent?

          Or check out Utusan‘s reader feedback and compare with Malaysiakini reader comments. Don’t assume. Investigate.

          If you will consider objectively, the harshest and most insulting comments published in this blog are not directed against Chinese and Christians but those aimed at me personally. Same case wrt to dealing with prejudices (think of all the fitnah that I’ve had to continually fend off).

          At the end of the day, we’re deciding which is the lesser of the two evils. Look at the results rather than the rhetoric, e.g. nepotism in Umno (admittedly there is) but compare with the nepotism in PKR, and Azmin’s audacity or muka tebal in slamming dynastic politics. These Pakatan people really berani cakap.

          Talk (race blind lah, one people lah, democratic lah, bersih lah) is cheap!

  5. Tony Yew is not a reborn Christian. It is Project Crossover that results in so many reborn Christians, being guided by leper messiahs and “pastors” of uncertain standing.

    Leper Messiah (c)1986 Metallica

    1. The hub of crossover project is Subang Jaya. The Subang Rally website, from where the photos were sourced, is full of quotes like:

      “If God is for us, who can be against us” (Romans 8:31)

      “God we thank you for putting Hannah Yeoh as our State Assemblymen (sic) …”

      “Hannah Yeoh has also pledged RM2000 for Subang Rally, from her annual allocation for the Subang Jaya constituency. THANK YOU JESUS!”

      “Rise up its (sic) time to take Subang for Jesus!!!”

      “A great performance by City Harvest Church ….and many more to be expected tonight. Here’s to going crazy for Jesus!”

      http://subangrally.blogspot.com/2009_07_01_archive.html

      Hence the number of Twits snowballing is no surprise. They’re catching ’em young.

      1. Right. You’re fat, but fuck ugly and insidious to stupid minds. Thats what you are..Nothing more than a female doggy to your bosses..Your articles are completely incoherent and the best thing that will happen to you Hell is that if someone buys a bottle of shampoo for you. Teoh Being Hock died. Unlike you. He actually died a day before he was due to get married. So fuck off with your bullshit will you?

        1. My dear ‘ed’ aka ‘Sshsn’ aka ‘dbdn’:

          Bunga melati bunga di darat,
          Bunga seroja di tepi kali;
          Hina besi kerana karat,
          Hina manusia kerana tidak berbudi.

          Di sana padi di sini padi,
          Baru bernama sawah dan bendang;
          Di sana budi di sini budi,
          Baru sempurna menjadi orang.

          Sigh, your bahasa (preferred vocabulary) is unedifying.

          I’m not unsympathetic to TBH’s plight, y’know.

          I had strenuously objected to Ridhuan Tee labelling his unborn child as “anak haram”, so much so that Ridhuan responded by calling me an immoral, irreligious woman for condoning premarital sex. I’ve never said anything bad or negative about TBH.

          I don’t buy the RCI finding that he committed suicide either, read here.

          However, I do believe that the party you support had crossed the line in exploiting TBH’s death. Look at the picture above. It’s his funeral altar. The photographers were clambering all over just to take photos of LGE and the DAP exco.

          It is respectful for this media circus to take place during a solemn religious rite for the dead?

          Was it not opportunistic for the DAP central working committee to deliver a political speech at TBH’s funeral?

          Can you step back just a minute from your political partisanship and be fair to TBH himself? Has Guan Eng ever said anything about TBH that comes from human compassion and not to score political points?

          And lastly, take just a few more minutes to reflect on the kind of comments that you’ve been making on my blog. Compare with the adab of the other commenters.

          Can you cultivate a little – just a wee bit – of self-awareness and mindfulness of the words that you use, and ponder on why you express yourself the way you do? Please?

      2. “fat and ugly” seems the best that DAPsters can muster when they have no concrete rebuttal to offer. LOL!

      3. Awesome pantun Helen… Lovely….

        Will be reading your blog from time to time but going to concentrate on other stuff mainly… Wish you all the best, keep up the good work…

        Oh, lastly… Someone sent me a YouTube link on the Save Maryam campaign… Thought you might be interested… I’m just angry with Saudis for not doing more… They spend 2 million bucks on a party, easily.. But hey, musn’t be angry… It’s Ramadan… Peace….

    2. I’m a christian n think that to label other christians as reborn or unborn simply smacks of self-righteousness ala holier than thou attitude so well displayed by the Pharisees but well condemned by Jesus in the Bible. Major rethink now on Project Crossover in the light of Pastor Kong Hee being charged for CBT n his wife Sun Ho severely criticised for her scantily dressed geisha in China Wine.

  6. BTW, I’ll be taking the occasional break, so you won’t be seeing me posting comments on a regular basis.
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    :(

    I find your presence comforting in the face of assaults by The Obsessed (e.g. the most recent Christian Yeopie who left a blitzkrieg of 30 comments in the span of the last day and a half — doesn’t he sleep?) — Helen

    1. I’ll still be posting, but not regularly, for the next few weeks. But I’ll still read your articles. If some crazed dung happens to post something that crosses the lines, you can be sure that I’ll respond. Hang in there Helen.
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      Selamat berpuasa. — Helen

  7. These Christian Yeopies. Ah well, its that thing again. Before the fall, there is the perpetual hysteria. They think all people are just like them, cheering their perpetually hysterical leaders.

    Just like the Republican newbies that strutted to the American Congress with their “Contract with America” back in 1994. Remember them ? That’s right. Just as the then Republicans promised so much, and the American people wrongly believed in them, what did they achieve ? Same with the Pakatan gang. After 4 years, what do they have to show ?

    Oh wait. hold on. Well, for starters, the venom and the viciousness toward those that are “tak sehaluan dengan mereka” have increased, as we can see on this blog. Well, since promises are not delivered, the only way for them to get out of trouble is to, as I said, increased the venom and vicious attacks on those that are “tak sehaluan dengan mereka”.

    1. Bro, “Its Pride before the fall” if I’m not mistaken. Look like some Pakartun supporter took things personally.

      For Helen I quote a sayin’

      “Don’t argue with an idiot, he’ll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience”

      I see too much hatred in Mkini and Opposition blogs. Say something contra and they come like a wolf pack.

      Wonder what will happens if they really win the next GE.
      _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

      :) to the ‘idiot’ quote. — Helen

      1. Thanks for the correction Matt. As for them winning the next GE, only if the ruling coalition score own goals, like i.e what happened in 2008, but what I think is the likely outcome is that the opposition with make further inroads in east Malaysia. But more likely, as Helen and numerous readers here have pointed out, we’re going to have a 2 race system post GE13.

      2. And Matt, thanks for coming up with the word Pakartun. I find it really hilarious. We need more people like you here, people with ingenuity. At Mkini and other Opposition blogs, its usually words like prostitute, dogs, corrupt. Those people, they really lack invention.
        Pakartun supporters take everything personally. For them, a slight, however light, is an invitation to war.

  8. Two race system? Is that your last card? Can you explain the inefficiencies of the BN government instead? Os does that require actual brain work?

  9. Sshsn,

    Two race system already takes place in sarawak. The Chinese voted themselves out of Sarawak govt.

    Helen is saying the truth. DAP in its combative style is bringing Chinese into collision course with the malays.

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