Filem hina nabi, duta Amerika di Libya dan paderi gereja merpati

September 13, 2012 at 12:18 pm 72 comments

1. Duta Amerika Syarikat ke Libya, seorang pakar teknologi maklumat dan dua orang lagi terbunuh dalam serangan orangramai ke atas pejabat konsul AS gara-gara marah pada satu filem yang belum mereka tonton.

2. Christopher Stevens dilaporkan mati akibat serangan jantung dan sesak nafas ekoran villa kediaman duta AS itu di Benghazi diserbu dan dibakar.

Penyerang bersenjata – yang didakwa kumpulan Ansar al-Sharia (‘Penyokong Undang-undang Islam’) yang bersimpati dengan al-Qaeda – meletupkan mortar, melepaskan tembakan serta melontar grenade dalam operasi militan serentak dengan tunjuk perasaan spontan orang Islam kepanasan itu.

Duta Chris Stevens

Berpuluh kakitangan kedutaan kemudiannya dipindah ke rumah selamat tetapi tempat berlindung yang kononnya rahsia itu diserang juga, dan seorang askar marine beserta seorang lagi orang Amerika terbunuh – sumber Reuters.[Mutakhir: Serangan meragut nyawa 7 orang Amerika, termasuk duta]

Antara 12-17 orang dilaporkan cedera.

3. Kemarahan umat Islam dicetuskan oleh sebuah filem yang dikatakan telah menghina Nabi Muhammad. Filem bertajuk ‘Innocence of Muslims’ diterbitkan oleh seorang pengarah California yang identitinya masih samar.

Treler bagi filem kontroversi itu dimuat-turun di YouTube pada bulan Julai. Tambahan, ada satu versi yang disediakan dengan sarikata bahasa Arab.

Protes di merata dunia Islam

4. Kira-kira 2,000 orang juga turut memprotes di Mesir sejurus selepas kewujudan filem tersebut dikhabarkan melalui siaran televisyen. Kedutaan AS di Kaherah digempur oleh penunjuk perasaan yang bertindak membaling batu serta menurunkan dan membakar bendera kebangsaan AS — sumber Reuters.

Protes di kedutaan AS di Tunis, Rabu – gambar Associated Press

5. Penunjuk perasaan di kedutaan AS di kota Tunis, Tunisia turut membakar bendera ‘jalur dan bintang’ itu.

Kerajaan yang lepas di Tunisia, Mesir dan Libya yang sekular telah ditumbangkan dalam pemberontakan Arab Spring. Ketiga-tiga negara tersebut sekarang diperintah oleh kelompok Islamis.

Demo anti-Amerika di Casablanca

6. Bendera Amerika juga dibakar oleh kumpulan yang menjalankan protes di kedutaan AS di kota Casablanca, Magribi.

Protes sudah merebak ke Sudan di mana beratus orang berkumpul di depan kedutaan AS, dan juga ke Kuwait dan Gaza. [Mutakhir: Yemen juga]

Kedutaan AS di Algiers, ibukota Algeria, telah memberi amaran bahawa mungkin akan berlaku keganasan. Algeria ialah negara jiran yang berkongsi sempadan dengan Libya. Ada ura-ura beberapa kumpulan yang tidak dikenalpasti telah menggunakan jaringan media sosial untuk merancang demonstrasi — sumber Reuters.

7. Sementara itu, penduduk Tehran akan mengadakan protes hari ini di depan kedutaan Switzerland sebagai ganti kerana Amerika Syarikat tidak mempunyai perwakilan diplomatik di Iran.

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8. Paderi Terry Jones telah menyiarkan filem anti-Islam itu sebagai sedutan pra-tonton dua hari lepas pada Sept 11 – tarikh ulangtahun serangan orang Islam ke atas Twin Towers di New York – sebagai sebahagian daripada acara tahunannya yang berjudul ‘International Judge Mohammed Day’.

Paderi evangelis Amerika tersebut pernah menjadi pemangkin menimbulkan rusuhan di Asia Barat apabila membakar kitab Al-Quran pada Sept 11 lepas — sumber: ‘The Christian Post

9. Reverend Terry Jones mengetuai gereja Dove Outreach Center di Gainesville, Florida.

10. Sebelum ini saya pernah memblog bahawa logo gereja Dove World Outreach ialah burung merpati yang melambangkan Roh Kudus tuhan triniti penganut Kristian. Boleh baca ‘Merpati: Logo gereja yang paderinya dulu mahu bakar Quran’

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  • 1. Pakatan Parody  |  September 13, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    Al Qaeda, and the other “terrorist” groups, they were, and they continued to be sponsored by the west. now, people must be asking, why’s the west supporting these terror groups to “attack” the west and western interests ?

    on the surface, it looks as if the west and western interests are under “attacks” but ask yourself, who are the real victims of these terror strikes ? the vast majority of attacks occurred and continues to occur in Muslim countries, the dead are Muslim.

    all these attacks only serve to further destabilize the Muslim world, to prevent Muslims from ever achieving progress and to divide them.

    Balas
    • 2. Elijah  |  September 13, 2012 at 1:12 pm

      “all these attacks only serve to further destabilize the Muslim world, to prevent Muslims from ever achieving progress and to divide them.”

      Although there seems to be claims by certain sectors of support by the US on Al-Qaeda in Syria and Libya, this support is against the evil despots Gaddafi and Assad. The Muslim world failed to stop these two madmen from killing civilians, so what if the US assist them?

      Al-Qaeda and other Muslim terrorist groups are dangerous even without US support (assuming this to be the case), and they are killing Shiites, Muslim collaborators of the Western enemy, and others not deemed Muslim anymore (apostasized). Killing them all is legitimate, although this could only be ordered by Muslim rulers of a nation, not by them, this is one area they are mistaken. The killings are happening in Muslim nations? Duh, because there are many Muslims there..

      Balas
      • 3. Darlyn Azlinda  |  September 13, 2012 at 2:20 pm

        So what is their right to insult Muhammad pbuh and Islam? Insult the terrorist and dictator leaders lah.

        What if the US assists them? You might forgot one thing la kawan. US ni suka menyelam sambil minum air la. Their help is NEVER free. There is always something they want as a gratitude. Their soldiers tak berambus2 lagi dari Iraq dan Afghanistan okeh.

        In any religion there’s always extremist. Remember what the guy in Norway did? He just bombed everyone and he is also terrorist. Why not shot him dead like what they did to Osama? Discriminate much?

        Remember that there were also Muslims dead when 9th 11 happened. Not only Christians. And they said there is not even a single Jews on that building that day. I dont know if it is ever true.

        Balas
      • 4. Elijah  |  September 14, 2012 at 11:59 am

        Darlyn, the one who insulted the Prophet Muhammad, was not Chris Stevens nor the US government, I’m not saying that the US govt are that nice, but why does the Islamist targeted the US embassy? The identity of the man who made the video is still unknown.

        The US (and NATO) assisting them, is better than the Muslim world who barely does anything apart from just looking at a distance Gaddhafi and Asad kill their own Muslim citizens.

        The Norway guy (Breivik) was an isolated case, and he was declared insane anyway. The ones making the headlines nowadays are always us Muslims. Even yesterday, 8 people were killed in Somalia, 12 killed in Yemen and the day before 14 were killed in Pakistan. All by Muslim groups declaring jihad on apostates and enemies of Islam..

        Balas
      • 5. The Dictator  |  September 15, 2012 at 9:47 am

        Elijah, hmm……..you say you are Muslim….you sound like another one of those opposition hacks who try to justify your warped mind by calling yourself a Muslim when in fact you’re not even Malay, let alone Muslim. you sound like Ravin a.k.a Mohd Aziz.

        I find it fascinating that to make their arguments sound justifiable, they say they are Malay or Muslim, just like Ravin-Mohd Aziz. Oh by the way, to take a page from Ahmad Ibrahim, you’re free to reply to my comments, you can accuse me of anything, but guess what, I m not going to reply to any of them.

        Balas
  • 6. anakjamil  |  September 13, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    saw the 10-min err, film that was produced for 5 Million – and fully understand why the Libyans went amok. Just proving my point that stupidity is contagious. Haizzzz!

    Balas
    • 7. forrestcat  |  September 13, 2012 at 1:37 pm

      when you anger 1 billion plus people…expect some handful to perform extreme reaction..nevertheless..the muslims will not sit quietly and will react even with silence but angry.

      Balas
  • 8. I.D.A.  |  September 13, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    like I said before, you can say whatever you want about the bangsa and keturunan, but if you mock the Prophet PBUH and Islam, the Muslim will fight back. some of them will just protest, some will physically fight the “real” jihad.

    Balas
  • 9. Melonhead  |  September 13, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    Two wrongs do not make anything right.

    The prophet Muhammad pbuh taught us better than this. It is a pity that Muslims are not following his teachings, instead is letting their anger (nafsu) take control.

    I too am mad. But are those that provoke us and insult us worth it? Nope. Let God judge them. I choose to pity their ignorance and stupidity.

    As for the evangelican pastor, kalau dah guarantee masuk syurga, apa lagi nak takut atau respect org lain? Diri dah confirm tempat di syurga, everyone else can GTH.

    Balas
    • 10. Servant of God  |  September 13, 2012 at 4:56 pm

      In everyone there is a sticking point. Something you will absolutely not tolerate.

      If Rasulullah SAW is not your sticking point, what is?

      I’m not trying to insult you. It’s just that for me, there are two things that would hit my anger button. Insult Allah SWT, and Rasulullah SAW. Millions of people have found peace in their hearts because of Islam.

      So why are we supposed to tolerate whatever our enemies are doing?

      Why?

      Balas
      • 11. Helen Ang  |  September 13, 2012 at 5:25 pm

        I get your POV regarding “two things that would hit [your] anger button. Insult Allah SWT, and Rasulullah SAW”.

        My reading is that DAPsters who keep insulting and insulting most viciously at every level – other people’s personal integrity, political beliefs, race, religion, the country (despite their loud protestations of First) – have no realization that they are inviting a backlash in equal if not greater magnitude.

        I’m keeping my ears to the ground to try to gauge where the red lines are drawn and where DAPsters are in danger of crossing. All the Chinese (incl. those not supportive of DAP but still, we look Chinese) will reap the bitter fruit that the DAPsters have sown.

        Balas
      • 12. Melonhead  |  September 13, 2012 at 7:29 pm

        Have you read the story of the Prophet Muhammad pbuh and the old jewish lady who insulted him everyday when he passed by her, and then one day when the prophet pbuh passed the same place and she wasn’t there, he went searching for her only to find out that she was ill. He visited her and she was ashamed for her past behaviour.

        What about the other story of the prophet pbuh helping an old lady carry her bags and she was insulting the prophet pbuh the whole time without realising that the man who was helping her was in fact the very man that she was ridiculing. And after helping her, the old lady complimented the prophet pbuh and asked him for his name. When the prophet pbuh told her and she realizes that he is the very same man that she was insulting rather viciously before, it shamed her but at the same time, he impressed her by the tolerance and the kindness that the prophet pbuh showed even when he was insulted so. Needless to say, she converted.

        What about the other story of one of the prophet’s pbuh companion (i apologise for forgetting his name), that in the heat of battle, when his sword was drawn and he was about to strike an enemy of islam, the enemy spat at him. The prophet’s companion stopped from striking the man and instead laid down his weapon. When asked by his enemy the reason, the prophet’s companion said that if he were to kill the man at that moment, he would have killed him out of his own anger and pride for being spat on, and not in defense of our religion (i.e. the path of God). Needless to say, that man converted too.

        So, from these stories and many more, i choose to conclude that there are other ways of defending Islam and our prophet pbuh, and that murdering innocent people because some of their countrymen or compatriots chose to insult the prophet pbuh is not the ways that our prophet has taught us.

        And i firmly believe that nothing that some unbelievers will do or have done can or will diminish the beauty of Islam, but our very own actions as Muslims, have done and will continue to do more damage to our religion. We are after all, the believers. We should know better. And some of them are hardcore unbelievers (i.e. kafir harbi) and it is their purpose to mock and ridicule us and what we believe. I do not expect anything less from them, so why should their action justify me killing others who are ‘innocent’? In this case, what does the US ambassador have anything to do with the men/women behind the movie?

        Balas
      • 13. Servant of God  |  September 13, 2012 at 10:34 pm

        Brother Melonhead,

        I fully understand what you’re saying.

        But for me, the examples you gave showed how Rasulullah SAW responded to insults upon his person. He had every right to forgive anyone who harmed him through words or through physical acts.

        But when someone insults him, what right have we to say, “That’s OK. He would have forgiven you.” If someone insulted my mother he will get what’s coming to him. Rasulullah is our saviour. If not for him, we would surely still be jahiliyyah and among the worst of people. Do we not owe him a permanent debt? Are we just going to let insults on him slide by?

        There is a hadith, but I cannot remember it exactly, so it might not be hassan and shohih. In that hadith, Rasulullah said that he would not be angered if someone transgressed upon his rights. However, he would extremely angry if someone transgressed upon the rights of Allah SWT. Valid hadith or not, this is something for us to ponder – just how forgiving have we the right to be?

        Balas
      • 14. Melonhead  |  September 14, 2012 at 8:02 am

        Servant of God,

        I understand completely where you are coming from.

        But i am not talking about forgiveness here. I am just saying that there are other ways to react to provocation than to use violence. The people behind the movie knew exactly what they are doing. They knew exactly which button to press. Reacting to them with violence will only fuel them on and will only prove to them and others that we are emotional, violent etc. It doesn’t solve anything. Our reaction to them only makes them stronger, makes their action more justifiable and makes us look weaker.

        It is when we ignore them, when we act indifferent to them that we will be victorious. In love, isn’t it worse when someone is indifferent to you rather than hating you?

        See how many muslims have watched the promo video on youtube and have given them more hits that they could ever dream of. Are we doing ourselves any favour by giving them our time of day?

        I am angered by what they have done. Beyond angry. But there are other ways of defending our religion and our prophet pbuh than to use violence.

        What is more dangerous to me is the use of God’s name by non-Muslims to mislead people. What is more dangerous to me is to hide the act of converting others via charity etc. Because these acts may lead to akidah dirosakkan. But insulting our religion and our prophet only reflects on them and what their religion have taught them. It doesn’t make us believe less, in fact it makes us closer to God.

        Again, at the end of the day, how can we expect anything less from a kafir harbi?

        Balas
      • 15. Elijah  |  September 14, 2012 at 12:29 pm

        Melonhead

        While there were many instances where the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) did forgave his enemies and those who insulted him, there are also other instances where he did not forgave them.

        Ponder upon these hadiths:
        1) Narrated Ali ibn Abu Talib: A Jewish woman used to abuse the Prophet (peace be upon him) and disparage him. A man strangled her till she died. The Apostle of God declared that no recompense was payable for her blood. (Narrated by Abu Dawud)

        Ibn Taymiyyah said that this hadith is jayyid in his book, al-Saarim al-Maslul ala Shatim ar-Rasul

        2) Another longer hadith is when a man killed a slave woman that used to always insult and disparage the Prophet of God. The ending of the hadith was thus:

        …He sat before the Prophet (peace be upon him) and said: Apostle of God! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her. Thereupon the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood. (Narrated by Abu Dawud, classed as sahih by al-Albani)

        3) Narrated Sa’d ibn Abi Waqqas: On the day of the conquest of Mecca, Abdullah ibn Sa’d ibn Abu Sarh hid himself with Uthman ibn Affan. He brought him and made him stand before the Prophet (peace be upon him), and said: Accept the allegiance of Abdullah, Apostle of God! He raised his head and looked at him three times, refusing him each time, but accepted his allegiance after the third time. Then turning to his companions, he said: Was not there a wise man among you who would stand up to him when he saw that I had withheld my hand from accepting his allegiance, and kill him? They said: We did not know what you had in your heart, Apostle of God! Why did you not give us a signal with your eye? He said: It is not advisable for a Prophet to play deceptive tricks with the eyes. (Narrated by Abu Daud and classed as saheeh by al-Albani)

        Ibn Sa’ad was an apostate and used to insult the Prophet, however, he was pardoned by the Prophet during the Conquest of Mecca, but the Prophet initially wanted to kill him, it’s just that the Companions didn’t get his message.

        So, there were instances when the Messenger of God forgave his enemies, and there were also other instances when he would just leave them to die. However, the Prophet is no longer with us, and the one who can order someone to be killed could only be the Muslim leader or head of nation, and not the public or orang awam like us. So please don’t go around killing people who we think deserve it.

        I disagree with you concerning using the word “Allah” by non-Muslims, I think they should use it as this would be a point of understanding between the 2 community. Whether a person says Jesus is the son of Allah, or the son of God, it refers to the same thing, both are false. But hey you can disagree no problem..

        Balas
  • 16. Fed up  |  September 13, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    Soon, this flag burning and shoot the messenger will become reality in Malaysia should Pakatan wins the general election. Here are the details:

    1- PAS will stage what it is best known for-flag burning and hatred campaign in front of US embassy – all within means of experience and expertise of dear Unit Amal PAS which is famed for overturning the police car during Bersih 3.0

    2- PKR will shoot members of the public aka Dino the Anwar bodyguard

    3- DAP will threaten to sue any newspapers or alternative media which report the incident – no worry by now DAPster cybertrooper are well trained by LGE to spam the cyberspace with alternative stories…..

    Balas
  • 17. badtamperman  |  September 13, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    These Americans are stupid or what? Have any Muslims insulted their prophet? Have any Muslims insulted any other of the religions by making movie of it?

    Prophet Muhammad is our beloved, being loved from all Muslims of the world. He prohibited his followers from worshiping him, that’s why there are no sketch picture of him and will never be.

    I’m sicked of people trying to provoke Muslims and Islam. Did we ever make a film of the Christians? The Buddhist? The Hindus? Did we?

    Balas
    • 18. Servant of God  |  September 13, 2012 at 11:08 pm

      The Americans are well aware of what you’ve said, brother. They’re picking a fight with us, is all.

      Question is, how long are we going to wait?

      Balas
  • 19. calvinsankaran  |  September 13, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    I guess this is the fitting end to the great Western delusion about the so called Arab Spring. If they thought Arab Spring meant democratisation and westernization of the Middle East and North Africa, then they are sadly mistaken.

    Balas
    • 20. Servant of God  |  September 13, 2012 at 11:02 pm

      The Arab Spring is actually a great tragedy, in my opinion. What the Spring has actually accomplished is the acceptance of bloody conflict as a solution, not the unfortunate side effects of finding a solution.

      Where will it stop now? Two years from now, if someone is unhappy with the Ikhwanul Mukminin and Morsi, should we be surprised if they see a bloody coup as the fastest way of “correcting” the situation?

      Of course, given the history of the region, bloody coups are nothing new. But as Syria is showing us, too many innocents are paying the price for something they did not ask for.

      What is really disturbing, though, is how the symptoms of violence as a means of solution has already found its way into Malaysia. Just look at mr. pistol bengkok and co. Tak puas hati, riot. Belum jadi PM, sudah tunjuk pistol mau tembak orang. These people really see the Arab Spring as something truly desirable.

      Most Malaysians just want to be happy and make good use of the time God has given us. Are we going to let Spring of Doom rain on our beloved tanah air just because of the greed of a select few? I, for one, am not willing to sacrifice my family for a greedy bastard and his cronies.

      Balas
  • 21. I.D.A.  |  September 13, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    menghina nabi adalah menghina Islam, yang menghina Islam dibolehkan Islam untuk diperangi… namun orang Islam Malaysia lebih cenderung kepada perdamaian. tapi umat Islam di negara luar akan ‘mengajar’ pihak2 yang menghina Islam.

    Balas
    • 22. Helen Ang  |  September 13, 2012 at 5:27 pm

      Agree. Malays are the nicest Muslims compared to other Muslim countries where all these deadly riots are happening. The DAP supporters fail to see or realise this.

      Balas
      • 23. Servant of God  |  September 13, 2012 at 11:25 pm

        Helen,

        Like many city kids, I grew up an Anglophile. Now, I am ashamed of this, but back then it was the only way of life for me. English was my first, second, and third language. I spoke, wrote and debated in English, watched nothing from Malaysia and wondered why the other Malays weren’t joining in. Thank Allah my faith was not compromised, and I was able to realize my mistakes.

        As I grew older, I came to realize that I was part of something that sought to discredit who I really am. My culture. My religion. My sense of self worth.

        Where once I admired the Mat Salleh for their so-called achievements, I now realize that their success is applicable only within a very narrow definition. This discovery is often accompanied by a sense of wonderment, but increasingly, I am growing angry because I had been taken advantage of.

        The Mat Salleh are far away, so they will have to wait. Their lackeys are nearby though, and I find that these DAPigs are riling me up very nicely.

        I know I am not the only one feeling like this.

        Balas
        • 24. Helen Ang  |  September 13, 2012 at 11:50 pm

          I’ve noticed your English is excellent.

          My command of English is decent enough, I guess, but it befuddles me that a number of Malaysians begitu ghairah mengagung-agungkan BI.

          To me English is a working language and I do not deny its immense usefulness. We can be appreciative of its many benefits but there is no need to exalt the language and its cultural baggage by putting it on a pedestal.

          The Malaysian Insider recently reported:

          “Malaysia converted its English language medium schools to Malay medium schools in the 1970’s but reintroduced English as a medium of instruction for mathematics and science in 2003. This was again overturned in 2009 in what many perceived to be an effort to placate both Malay and Mandarin hardline groups.”

          The phrasing reflects TMI‘s attitude that those who wish their kids to be taught in BM or Chinese are “hardliners” whereas those who support English are (what?) …

          Many of TMI‘s articles ooze this attitude.

          I find The Star has the same attitude problem. But the paper is owned by MCA. And I don’t see why MCA is allowing its media a free rein to promote Anglophilia and spread evangelitis.

          Balas
      • 25. Servant of God  |  September 14, 2012 at 5:58 am

        Helen,

        The English language is but a mere tool. With enough practice, anyone could countinously wax lyrical about the most asinine of subjects.

        But, back then for me it was sort of like a passport. I aspired to be someone else, someone supposedly better, who was more cultured, and was not weighed down with a legacy that was definitely not first-class. Kononnya laa kan. Thank God I’ve left that nonsense behind.

        So know this. Obsessive Anglophiles such as the DAPigs hate themselves. They are ashamed that they don’t look like the people they adore on TV. They would embrace things like wine tasting not because they love wine, but it lets them feel that they have somehow transcended their skin colour, that they’ve broken through a threshold of sophistication beyond what is possible for descendants of coolies and farmers.

        This is most unfortunate, because you can take the pig out of the sty, but you just cannot take the sty out of the pig. In other words, kalau dah buruk perangai tu, memang buruk laa perangai, tak kira ke mana kau pegi.

        Balas
      • 26. HuaYong  |  September 14, 2012 at 1:04 pm

        hmmm…nice muslim…

        Balas
    • 27. Sabil  |  September 26, 2012 at 1:54 am

      Correction…pada 11 Sept tiada org islam yg menyerang World Trade Centre..ini adalah salah satu rancangan puak2 yang mengikuti Freemanson yang semmgnye mahu islam di jatuhkan..

      Balas
  • 28. oldkingdombc  |  September 13, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    Inilah akibat terlalu banyak tafsiran agama..

    Islam yg sebenar 1500 tahun dulu menukar padang pasir menjadi satu tamadun..& masyarakat pelopor ilmu, kaya raya

    Hari ini Tak dinafikan majoriti orang Islam damai, tetapi banyak juga puak2 juga Islam menterjemah sebagai politik kuasa, perasan diri terlalu mulia, poligami melampau, menuduh orang lain keji & mencaci..ada juga yg menagih simpati untuk cari makan dll..dan hidup penuh sesalan & menebus dosa2..

    lalu musuh Islam mengambil kesempatan..mungkin ajaran sebenar tak pernah wujud pemikiran2 terpesong..

    ketika Kristian membersihkan agama & fahaman mereka dari sampah2 & terus ke depan..Islam semakin tercemar, & muncul orang2 mendakwa Imam mahadi..yg merosak Islam yang asal..

    Ajaran Nik aziz/Fathul Bari pastinya tak sama dgn ajaran Islam zaman2 Ibn Sina..

    Balas
    • 29. Servant of God  |  September 14, 2012 at 6:04 am

      Fathul Bari is at least making sense by sticking to the Al-Qur’an and Hadith.

      Nik Aziz seems to have a customized Magic 8 Ball to come up with his fatwas. Mana tak rosak.

      Balas
  • 30. Rakesh Kumar  |  September 13, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    Agree with Calvin….(again). And Helen, I don’t know what you have in your mind with regards to this post, but I am scared sh!t to see our Malay brothers and sisters resorting to something like this, but that what makes our Malay or mamak, or whatever, muslim of this country so beautiful.

    Acceptance is the key word here. On a side note, my son is 7 months now, and I am encouraging him to marry a Malay already. I did the first step of marrying someone of different religion, but I learned from her the family’s Catholic ways and taught her my Hindu upbringng to her (though I am an agnostic now, whatever that means). I would love to see my son marry a Malay.

    Balas
    • 31. Helen Ang  |  September 13, 2012 at 6:06 pm

      Rakesh,

      Can you please translate the following into Tamil for me?

      The Star

      – The Plagiarizing Paper

      This newspaper is cocky and arrogant, holding readers in contempt by refusing to acknowledge that its columnist had extensively plagiarized the work of other writers.

      Choosing to close one eye and sweeping the matter under the carpet is tantamount to The Star endorsing cheating.

      Thanks, please stay tuned. I’ll elaborate later.

      Balas
      • 32. I.D.A  |  September 13, 2012 at 10:47 pm

        nice one helen. A1

        Balas
      • 33. calvinsankaran  |  September 13, 2012 at 11:02 pm

        Hahaha…Helen I can you are up to something mischievous….again…LOL.

        This phrase is tough to translate into Tamil, at least for an average Tamil speaker and writer. You need to get someone with an above average skills which I am not. Hope Rakesh can help you.

        Balas
      • 34. Rakesh Kumar  |  September 14, 2012 at 10:09 am

        I read well, write badly. But did something, using google transliterate. Here you go (Calvin check please):

        தி ஸ்டார் : காப்பி அடிக்கும் செய்தித்தாள்

        இந்த இறுமாப்பு கர்வமுள்ள செய்திதாள் மற்ற எழுத்தளர்களின் எழுத்துக்களை நகலெடுத்து அல்லது காப்பி அடித்து படிப்பவர்கள் எல்லோரரையும் முட்டாளாக அவமதிக்கிறார்கள்
        இந்த விஷயத்தை கண்டுகொள்ளாமல் தெரியாதது போல் நடிப்பது மற்றவரை ஏமாற்றுவது சரியே என்று இவர்கள் ஒப்புகொள்வது போல் தெரிகிறது

        நன்றி, இன்னொரு நாள் நான் விரிவாக சொல்கிறேன்.

        Balas
    • 36. HuaYong  |  September 14, 2012 at 1:05 pm

      “I would love to see my son marry a Malay.”

      not surprise at all.

      Balas
      • 37. The Dictator  |  September 15, 2012 at 9:54 am

        I m not surprised at all by what you say. after all, you did say you have no problem at all with your son becoming a Christian. typical Chinese.

        Balas
  • 38. ed  |  September 13, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    Amazing how helen manages to turn this into an anti-Dap rant…sigh..surely you’re not deluded or stupid? Then again, you look it…

    Balas
    • 39. anak jamil  |  September 13, 2012 at 8:43 pm

      i love trolls. Have always been fascinated by them esp with their nick-shifting ability, demeaning & degrading capacity and above all, their shamelesly-flaunting and promoting ADD. Are you not loved as a child? Daddy didn’t buy you a cake for birthdays growing up? Mommy didn’t say she loves you? What? Why is everything must be about you, ed? Please get down from the cross, somebody needs the wood!

      Balas
  • 40. Ravin  |  September 13, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    The followers of some religion have this tendency of accusing others of insulting their religion quite regularly. May be in life, they have nothing else to look forward except looking for reason to accuse and fight with others. Sometimes the barbaric way, in the name of defending this and that. Anyway these people are also known as true hypocrites.

    Balas
    • 41. anak jamil  |  September 13, 2012 at 9:39 pm

      oh Ravin,

      I love it when you describe yourself so well. So you really have nothing to do and nothing to look forward to hence you accuse and insult and wage wars in the name of your newlyfound religion called DAP,is it? You such an adorable, misguided and delusional lamb!

      I gather ‘Buku Jingga’ is your bible, party manifesto is your hadith and LGE is now your prophet or has he reached godly status now? When you do confession, is it customary to recite Hail Hannah afterwards? I juz lurve trolls!

      Balas
      • 42. Servant of God  |  September 13, 2012 at 10:41 pm

        The PR party manifesto is Ravin’s hadith? Magnificent!

        I cannot wait to get ring-side seats so I can see how that turns out. Remember, for PR, the party manifesto is not binding – it is certainly not a promise. Khalid Ibrahim said so!

        Balas
      • 43. I.D.A  |  September 13, 2012 at 10:55 pm

        anak jamil,

        your comment so inspirational until that one cent no use DAP religiously ‘balacied’ cannot sleep thinking of what to reply next. adoiii! ayo yo, amma, appa, yenna kadhe?

        Balas
      • 44. Ravin  |  September 13, 2012 at 11:06 pm

        Describe myself? Is it? FUnny, my religion has no problem with anybody. NOT like certain religion. Everyday needs defending and everyday insulted.

        Balas
      • 45. Servant of God  |  September 13, 2012 at 11:31 pm

        Ravin’s religion has no problem with anybody? hahahahaha

        Ko sembah kasut ke? Patut laaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahahahahaha

        Balas
    • 46. Khairul  |  September 13, 2012 at 10:54 pm

      If i have my way si ***** ni memang aku penggal kepala dia, barbaric tak barbaric.. :-P

      Balas
    • 47. calvinsankaran  |  September 13, 2012 at 11:50 pm

      Chill guys,,,he’s merely referring to folks like Bishop Paul Tan and the rest of the Christian Talibans who are highly sensitive on any criticism of their aggressive “marketting” tactics….

      Balas
      • 48. Khairul  |  September 14, 2012 at 12:18 am

        It is only an outbust, i wish no harm befallen ravin/what ever his name are..

        Balas
    • 49. MalaysianinNewYork  |  September 14, 2012 at 9:04 am

      Wow!!! we have the holier than thou version from Ravin. Everybody is a hypocrite except for you in the new found spectrum. I think we have a very childish and immature species trolling to gauge the response. Good luck Ravin or whoever you are.

      Balas
    • 50. jonnymalaya  |  September 14, 2012 at 10:52 am

      What I find hypocritical is they insult and malign other religions, yet when someone makes a lousy film they get all upset and break into wanton violence…

      Balas
      • 51. Helen Ang  |  September 14, 2012 at 11:04 am

        If I may join in the conversation … agree with you that the predictable outbreak of violence is a chill factor.

        Fortunately in Malaysia, we do not as yet get such deadly riots.

        However with the DAP endorsing hudud, acquiescing to gender segregation, promoting tudung and tutup aurat as well as other PAS trappings (i.e. accusing MCA of being anti-Islam),

        don’t you think the DAP-led Pakatan is taking us to the direction of countries with 95 percent Muslim majority, compared to a pluralistic climate more befitting our demography of about 60 percent Muslim?

        Balas
      • 52. MalaysianinNewYork  |  September 14, 2012 at 11:17 am

        jonymalaya, we need clarity not a kena suap agenda. What is it are you trying to preach without losing your political bearing.

        Balas
  • 53. Khairul  |  September 13, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    I’ll look forward for a demonstration tomorrow after Friday prayer @us embassy.. barbaric or not, it is my religion. If not me then who, ravin?

    Balas
  • 54. anak jamil  |  September 13, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    Ravin,

    Off course your religion have no problem with anyone or anything ..cause you put gag order on everthing ma! How to complaint if everything oso your religion want to sue! Tampal plaster – sue. Rainbow – sue. Hooowwww??

    After that got machais spreading the gospel of kim & lim! Little bit u call people racist .. Everybody oso you tapao as racist! Haiya .. Ravin, lei kong mat yeh? Send my love to the holy father – LKS, the son – LGE and the holy spirit – DAP ok!

    Balas
    • 55. Helen Ang  |  September 13, 2012 at 11:52 pm

      Your Trinity is hilarious. Holy Spirit Hannah?

      Balas
      • 56. anak jamil  |  September 14, 2012 at 12:04 am

        LOL.. How did you know? At first I was thinking of putting Hannah aka Hasnah but to my understanding spirit is very halus .. last check, nothing halus with Size 16! Moreover, the more I see her, she reminds me of a hamster! Seriously.. I am not being condescending or anything, but she looks like a hamster!

        Balas
      • 57. Khairul  |  September 14, 2012 at 12:12 am

        The Father = a person
        The Son = a person
        The Holy Ghost/Spirit = a person
        Instead of 3 person it still one person
        3 = 1 really great teaching

        Balas
      • 58. Elijah  |  September 14, 2012 at 3:05 pm

        Khairul, I’m a Muslim and although the Trinity doesn’t make sense, it is imperative to understand what the Christians believe (at least those with some knowledge on the religion). They don’t think the 3 persons are 1 person, but there are three persons in ONE BEING. The three remain separate, however, they all make up the one being that is God..

        This doesn’t make sense and lack scriptural backings, but we should understand their religion the way they understand it..

        Balas
  • 59. idah  |  September 14, 2012 at 7:37 am

    Islam teaches us to not to condemn others and tolerance. Others must learn to respect islam. Do not irritate muslims. Respect muslims and not accuse them of violance and terrorism as the real terrorist is the one like who create sensitive issues and its like throwing a stone and hiding your hand and than blaming the victim when he get angry. Do not practice hipocricy. Respect and you will be respected.

    Balas
  • 60. idah  |  September 14, 2012 at 7:52 am

    Terry i thought christianity also teaches religion tolerance. Why are you so sick. See what you caused by your doings. You need to learn christianity more may be rather than creating issues on islam and our beloved prophet.

    Whatever religion you believe in respect each other. No religion will teach bad things. what is your agenda Terry? you are bad, evil and the true terrorist. So who is the real terrorist and who is the culprit.

    Balas
  • 61. shamshul anuar  |  September 14, 2012 at 9:46 am

    Helen,

    It is actually a straight forward issue. Do not insult the faith of any human. Never mind if the producer of that film hates Prophet Muhammad SAW. But no need to wage war againsts Muslims.

    Freedom goes along with responsibility. Why create unnecessary problem? The US ambassador was killed in the process. He is innocent here.

    As for the White House, it is high time to accept reality that tolerating such nonsense from any art media will only backfire squarely on their face. The death of the ambassador should be a wake up call for White House. The should be a law there to guide motion picture industry. Not everything under the sun can be ridiculed.

    Just because White House tolerating nonsense about them (depicted in movies), they must assume others are willing to tolerate similar insulting movies.

    Balas
  • 62. MalaysianinNewYork  |  September 14, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Rakesh, you say “தி ஸ்டார் : காப்பி அடிக்கும் செய்தித்தாள்
    இந்த இறுமாப்பு கர்வமுள்ள செய்திதாள் மற்ற எழுத்தளர்களின் எழுத்துக்களை நகலெடுத்து அல்லது காப்பி அடித்து படிப்பவர்கள் எல்லோரரையும் முட்டாளாக அவமதிக்கிறார்கள்
    இந்த விஷயத்தை கண்டுகொள்ளாமல் தெரியாதது போல் நடிப்பது மற்றவரை ஏமாற்றுவது சரியே என்று இவர்கள் ஒப்புகொள்வது போல் தெரிகிறது
    நன்றி, இன்னொரு நாள் நான் விரிவாக சொல்கிறேன்.”.

    I acknowledge the fact that Tamil is the oldest living language, but can you please translate this in either Malay or English for our semua tahu and semua boleh Malaysians.

    Balas
    • 63. Rakesh Kumar  |  September 14, 2012 at 2:38 pm

      Hi MINY, that was in response to Helen’s request (post no.29) which translates her post:

      The Star – The Plagiarizing Paper

      This newspaper is cocky and arrogant, holding readers in contempt by refusing to acknowledge that its columnist had extensively plagiarized the work of other writers.

      Choosing to close one eye and sweeping the matter under the carpet is tantamount to The Star endorsing cheating.

      Or do you want it romanised?

      Balas
      • 64. MalaysianinNewYork  |  September 15, 2012 at 9:08 am

        TQ, that’s why in my personal opinion, I think everybody should at least make an attempt to learn their mother tongue and it is definitely welcoming that the Malaysian government encourages it rather than all being romanised. I can say with much regret that I am one of those who never mastered my own mother tongue. Saying this it does not mean that we should neglect our national language Malay.

        Balas
  • 65. alialparsi@gmail  |  September 14, 2012 at 11:43 am

    bangkitlah saudara ku dari tidur yg panjang.masa kita untuk bersatu menentang kaum kufar mungkar sudah bermula n menular.turki syiria mesir n tunisia merupakan rentetan kebangkitan islam bermula.ketahuilah saudara ku nabi Isa a.s akan turun di damsyik di menara putih iaitu ibu kota syiria.

    Balas
  • 66. LarryKing  |  September 14, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    A film made by amatuer film maker, i heard. A mosquito bites you and you go on rampage destroying the room to take revenge!

    Balas
  • 67. The Dictator  |  September 15, 2012 at 9:52 am

    this Elijah fella, I gotta hand it to these opposition hacks. after being exposed for impersonating as Malay, now they are here claiming to be Muslims when in fact they are not. man, I really have to hand it to them. it goes to show they are willing to do anything, I mean anything, to get into the heads of people.

    Balas
    • 68. Elijah  |  September 15, 2012 at 6:16 pm

      Oh man, i think u got me wrong here, click my name, it’ll direct to one of my blogs, u’ll see who i am

      Balas
      • 69. none  |  September 16, 2012 at 4:17 pm

        Elijah, ha ha ha…so much about your identity from ‘one of my blogs’, what did this blog tells us about you, INDONESIAN?. Indonesian Christian?. You must be hiding behind so msny different identities…ha ha ha…

        Balas
  • 70. dearman  |  November 10, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    orang jawa islam dikutuk di indonesia jd babi

    Balas
  • 71. wizar gifari  |  Disember 23, 2012 at 11:55 am

    bacot lu semua
    lu klo nggak tau islam nggak usah bacot

    Balas
  • 72. deva  |  Disember 25, 2012 at 1:08 am

    muslim is my live
    hati hati kalo ngomong mengenai islam………..

    Balas

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